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Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-17-2018, 07:51 PM
That's what I tell my wife all the time. She says they matter though

Rep given! I laughed out loud

BankerDog
12-17-2018, 07:53 PM
I?m watching the MS/AL All-Star game and some quick thoughts:

1) DJ James may wind up the best signee of this class. He is going to be big-time.
2) JPP is not a SEC QB.

msstate7
12-17-2018, 07:53 PM
I?m watching the MS/AL All-Star game and some quick thoughts:

1) DJ James may wind up the best signee of this class. He is going to be big-time.
2) JPP is not a SEC QB.

Witherspoon playing? If so, how's he look?

Cooterpoot
12-17-2018, 08:35 PM
That's what I tell my wife all the time. She says they matter though

You?re married to a woman?***

BeardoMSU
12-17-2018, 08:58 PM
You?re married to a woman?***

Kinda*

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/0b/7d/660b7dae60cad0593d998fcfef875f85.jpg

msstate7
12-17-2018, 09:00 PM
Kinda*

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/0b/7d/660b7dae60cad0593d998fcfef875f85.jpg

No personal pics please

Irondawg
12-17-2018, 09:42 PM
So is the Dean to the Rebs rumor mill picking up steam?

Cooterpoot
12-17-2018, 09:47 PM
No

HancockCountyDog
12-17-2018, 09:58 PM
So is the Dean to the Rebs rumor mill picking up steam?

Thanks, I needed a laugh tonight.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-17-2018, 09:59 PM
Thanks, I needed a laugh tonight.

He did throw up a fin in the game tonight...wth

LC Dawg
12-17-2018, 10:07 PM
He did throw up a fin in the game tonight...wth

I seriously think they pay kids to do that. Willie Gay and Simmons both did it. Maybe some more that I don't remember.

BuckyIsAB****
12-17-2018, 11:46 PM
Pickering dominated the MS/AL game whenever he wanted too. He is a massive human being and played some H back too.

Charles Moore has a nasty streak. He will be a good DT in the SECW. Him and Pickering together will be brutal.

Jones from NWR is a finesse player, he needs to play WR. But he does have swagger and is elite with the ball in the air. He locked up the best WR from AL mostly all game at DB and had one long catch on a fade.

Cross was the best OL on the MS roster and probably the best in the game.

MetEdDawg
12-18-2018, 06:55 AM
I seriously think they pay kids to do that. Willie Gay and Simmons both did it. Maybe some more that I don't remember.

Honestly if we are truly thinking about it, OM would be the best place for him to go. He's not going to be in a position to elevate that program because they have such a lack of talent. He's not a missing piece.

It's unfortunate that he will play his college football days in the obscurity that is Ole Miss football. But not going to Alabama helps us out. Yes I know there are other LBs out there that they get, but let's be real. Dean won the best LB in the nation award. And he's going to play for a team that has no talent. If we are going to challenge for the SEC we need guys like him. But if we don't get guys like him, the next best thing is for them to go to OM.

Only reason OM was good was because they cheated. They are going to win a few battles cheating. May even win a few straight up. But someone tell me the path to OM winning more than 7 games in any of the next 3 seasons? I don't see it. And with the lack of playmakers in the NFL I'm not really concerned about them developing any real talent.

KOdawg1
12-18-2018, 09:20 AM
I could see OM getting Dean or Hall. They're going to pull out all the stops to get one of them because they know that the fanbase cares about recruiting more than actual football

Cooterpoot
12-18-2018, 09:26 AM
You guys give OM way too much credit.

KOdawg1
12-18-2018, 09:44 AM
You guys give OM way too much credit.

I give their money guys credit. And honestly doing things like having Dean's brother on the team is pretty smart. They did the same with Nkemdiche.

msu15
12-18-2018, 09:47 AM
I give their money guys credit. And honestly doing things like having Dean's brother on the team is pretty smart. They did the same with Nkemdiche.

And Channing Ward. That played a massive decision in his part of signing with Ole Miss. He had announced a press conference that previous fall and was set to commit to us that day, but then circumstances changed.

Jack Lambert
12-18-2018, 09:51 AM
So is the Dean to the Rebs rumor mill picking up steam?

He is going to go to where he believes will get him into the best position to get into the NFL.

GreenheadDawg
12-18-2018, 10:59 AM
He is going to go to where he believes will get him into the best position to get into the NFL.

Then definitely it should be OM. Linebacker U **

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 11:03 AM
So is the Dean to the Rebs rumor mill picking up steam?

YES...............there is a lot of steam being generated by a Yancy led circle jerk over on the spirit.....fins up! LOL

BuckyIsAB****
12-18-2018, 11:19 AM
We just offered Rogers this morning...could make a big difference with Mingo

Dawgology
12-18-2018, 11:21 AM
Good luck to him if he goes to Ole Miss...hahahahahahha. It will continue their trend of signing highly rated classes that accomplish nothing.

RezDog7
12-18-2018, 11:54 AM
YES...............there is a lot of steam being generated by a Yancy led circle jerk over on the spirit.....fins up! LOL

I have a feeling this will be like Cam Akers all over again. I hope they have a watch party scheduled.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-18-2018, 12:00 PM
We just offered Rogers this morning...could make a big difference with Mingo

I doubt it

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 12:02 PM
We just offered Rogers this morning...could make a big difference with Mingo

Who is Rogers?

msstate7
12-18-2018, 12:08 PM
Who is Rogers?

https://i.postimg.cc/zDc9GJ62/7202406-B-33-AF-4-A0-E-B971-31-C7-F2591-B14.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Here is on recent Florida visit**

Dildoes
12-18-2018, 12:16 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zDc9GJ62/7202406-B-33-AF-4-A0-E-B971-31-C7-F2591-B14.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Here is on recent Florida visit**

hell, I wouldnt wanna meet him in the hole

KOdawg1
12-18-2018, 12:19 PM
Is Raydarious Jones headed to LSU?

msstate7
12-18-2018, 12:19 PM
hell, I wouldnt wanna meet him in the hole

He plays WR**

Really though, who is Rogers?

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-18-2018, 12:36 PM
He plays WR**

Really though, who is Rogers?

https://247sports.com/player/will-rogers-46052851/

StateDawg44
12-18-2018, 04:47 PM
So is social media basically the most effective way to stay up to date with all the happenings tomorrow for MSU?

KOdawg1
12-18-2018, 04:52 PM
So is social media basically the most effective way to stay up to date with all the happenings tomorrow for MSU?

Yes. Twitter specifically

TrapGame
12-18-2018, 05:10 PM
https://247sports.com/player/will-rogers-46052851/

Pro style QB? What's the catch?

Big4Dawg
12-18-2018, 05:23 PM
Pro style QB? What's the catch?

He'll most likely go to OM. Big OM family.

BeardoMSU
12-18-2018, 06:25 PM
Pro style QB? What's the catch?

Animal in the sack.**


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82FFYzcFIJA

IngomarDawg
12-18-2018, 06:35 PM
Who all are we expecting to sign tomorrow?

MetEdDawg
12-18-2018, 07:25 PM
Anyone know anything about Jamond Gordon? Decommitted from Auburn today.

Homedawg
12-18-2018, 07:44 PM
Anyone know anything about Jamond Gordon? Decommitted from Auburn today.

Oxford bound.

Leroy Jenkins
12-18-2018, 08:20 PM
Who is Rogers?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/e1/77/fee177613f17be908a8342d04ecdd558.jpg

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 08:43 PM
DJ James won’t sign until February...uh oh

GreenheadDawg
12-18-2018, 08:44 PM
DJ James won’t sign until February...uh oh

Go away

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 08:48 PM
Go away

Middle finger mofo

civildawg
12-18-2018, 08:49 PM
Yeah that can?t be good. Saban is going to keep him warm and if they miss out on someone he will get that spot. Happens every year

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 08:53 PM
Yeah that can?t be good. Saban is going to keep him warm and if they miss out on someone he will get that spot. Happens every year

Exactly what happened

Homedawg
12-18-2018, 08:54 PM
Gonna be a long January.

Jack Lambert
12-18-2018, 08:56 PM
Moorhead offered Will Rogers.

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 08:58 PM
Moorhead offered Will Rogers.

Who’s Roger’s***

msstate7
12-18-2018, 08:58 PM
Gonna be a long January.

They always are. I'm gonna kick back and enjoy my saints get to a super bowl though so I'm good.

ejdallas322
12-18-2018, 08:58 PM
LSU Insider, Billy Embody, just crystal balled Derick Hall to Mississippi State.

msstate7
12-18-2018, 09:00 PM
LSU Insider, Billy Embody, just crystal balled Derick Hall to Mississippi State.

That'd be a sweet win. Not sure I see it though

bulldawg28
12-18-2018, 09:01 PM
They always are. I'm gonna kick back and enjoy my saints get to a super bowl though so I'm good.

Not if they don't have home field advantage.

Doggie_Style
12-18-2018, 09:02 PM
LSU Insider, Billy Embody, just crystal balled Derick Hall to Mississippi State.

That would be awesome ....we?ll know in 12 hours

ejdallas322
12-18-2018, 09:02 PM
I also talked to Jarrian Jones about the Nakobe Dean fins up thing. My cousin knows him well so I got to talk with him. He says Dean was hesitating for a celebration and didn't know of any other colleges that had a defensive celebration, so he just did a fins up. Guys, he aint going to Ole Miss.

msstate7
12-18-2018, 09:03 PM
Not if they don't have home field advantage.

Well all we have to do is win 1 of the next 2 (Steelers and panthers) at home. Saints finished year at 7-1 on road BTW

ejdallas322
12-18-2018, 09:04 PM
What I do find quite funny is that Yancy got a little trigger happy with his predictions and wiped off his Ole Miss prediction for Hall right before signing day, lol.

bulldawg28
12-18-2018, 09:07 PM
Well all we have to do is win 1 of the next 2 (Steelers and panthers) at home. Saints finished year at 7-1 on road BTW

I'm just messing with you. The saints are overdue for another one. They should have won last year

msstate7
12-18-2018, 09:11 PM
I'm just messing with you. The saints are overdue for another one. They should have won last year

I'm chill, bro. I'm pretty happy with the state of all my teams at the moment.

Hambone
12-18-2018, 09:36 PM
Exactly what happened

Price you pay when you recruit against the big boys. I think he stays with us

Cooterpoot
12-18-2018, 09:40 PM
James is headed to AU unless AL loses some guys and takes him. He’s holding out for AL but AU is where he’s headed otherwise. But they gave us Hall.

Big4Dawg
12-18-2018, 09:42 PM
Auburn offered DJ today
Sounds like Brooks going to flip to Arkansas tomorrow

Sounds like we need to find some CBs

msstate7
12-18-2018, 09:44 PM
Auburn offered DJ today
Sounds like Brooks going to flip to Arkansas tomorrow

Sounds like we need to find some CBs

Bummer

Irondawg
12-18-2018, 09:52 PM
This James thing really hurts....we keep losing our #1 CB targets and that's going to catch up eventually unless we hit on some underrated guys. We were incredibly lucky with Dantlzer and looked like we were going to have that happen again with James. To Shotgun's repeated points, at what point at time do kids see us as just as good a program to go to as everyone not named Bama? We still seem to be a second tier team to most recruits and have trouble repeatedly against programs like ARK that we've been better than for some time now.

We're staring down a very real possibility of losing all 3 of our CB targets late in the game

msstate7
12-18-2018, 09:53 PM
The main recruiting guys here strangely silent with it being signing day eve and the big fields' rumor. Kinda concerning... hopefully not a bad day tomorrow

Cooterpoot
12-18-2018, 09:54 PM
Brooks isn’t flipping IMO. Emerson is 50/50. James is gone.

Cooterpoot
12-18-2018, 09:58 PM
To Shotgun's repeated points, at what point at time do kids see us as just as good a program to go to as everyone not named Bama? We still seem to be a second tier team to most recruits and have trouble repeatedly against programs like ARK that we've been better than for some time now.

We're staring down a very real possibility of losing all 3 of our CB targets late in the game

Name all the players we’ve lost to Ark. That’s not real. James is headed to a team that’s won a natty. That’s the answer to your question.

Commercecomet24
12-18-2018, 10:02 PM
Brooks isn’t flipping IMO. Emerson is 50/50. James is gone.

I concur and we're getting Hall. Wouldn't be surprised if we get someone unexpected as well.

Hambone
12-18-2018, 10:05 PM
Just a heads up Big4, say stuff like and people will want you banned! Sensitive people in these parts

Irondawg
12-18-2018, 10:06 PM
I was basing that on if Brooks flips to ARK. We lost Mason and an OL late to them although we did end up with Brule who I liked better than Mason anyway. The James thing hurts though if he leaves as I had high expectations for him. I was hoping an Auburn offer wouldn't move the dial with him - I was more worried Saban would take him into waiting and find room

Cooterpoot
12-18-2018, 10:10 PM
Masons coach worked that. The OL was about our 4th option and it was Hev. I don’t mind losing either of those. Neither were prized recruits.

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 10:10 PM
This James thing really hurts....we keep losing our #1 CB targets and that's going to catch up eventually unless we hit on some underrated guys. We were incredibly lucky with Dantlzer and looked like we were going to have that happen again with James. To Shotgun's repeated points, at what point at time do kids see us as just as good a program to go to as everyone not named Bama? We still seem to be a second tier team to most recruits and have trouble repeatedly against programs like ARK that we've been better than for some time now.

We're staring down a very real possibility of losing all 3 of our CB targets late in the game

1. We suck at branding. I've wondered if we should attempt to change our colors? Although controversial & I'm sure it would infuriate many, but it the simplest, cheapest solution that could differitiate us from Arkansas, A&M, Bama, & Oklahoma. We need something unique that creates a brand. Overall we are bland.

2. When we lose a kid, it's usually to their in-state school. We MUST create that same loyalty among our in-state kids.

3. The James thing is extremely frustrating because it feels like Auburn has been planning this for sometime. They don't want to take his commitment, so they just offer at the last second prevent him from signing & thus giving them more time to figure things out. It's a pretty savvy move by them, but I really can't blame an in-state school waiting on his in-state school. It's the fact that we can't get the Mississippi kids to do the same that is so frustrating.

Hambone
12-18-2018, 10:21 PM
Jame sis a direct result from decomittments that happened today

Cooterpoot
12-18-2018, 10:23 PM
Everybody loses kids to AL and AU. And believe what you want, we are 2nd tier to them. Nine wins a year don’t matter to kids. Winning titles and making pros do. But we’re gaining on AU and Saban will die one day.

Goldendawg
12-18-2018, 10:35 PM
1. We suck at branding. I've wondered if we should attempt to change our colors? Although controversial & I'm sure it would infuriate many, but it the simplest, cheapest solution that could differitiate us from Arkansas, A&M, Bama, & Oklahoma. We need something unique that creates a brand. Overall we are bland.

2. When we lose a kid, it's usually to their in-state school. We MUST create that same loyalty among our in-state kids.

3. The James thing is extremely frustrating because it feels like Auburn has been planning this for sometime. They don't want to take his commitment, so they just offer at the last second prevent him from signing & thus giving them more time to figure things out. It's a pretty savvy move by them, but I really can't blame an in-state school waiting on his in-state school. It's the fact that we can't get the Mississippi kids to do the same that is so frustrating.

#1. Yeah, change our colors, that will certainly make a difference in recruiting. Heck, we change our uni's about every game these days. Maybe wearing a recognizable one will do the trick on a weekly basis! Maybe in Maroon and white. I'll contact Oregon and see if they have any suggestions!******* Hail State!

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 10:38 PM
#1. Yeah, change our colors, that will certainly make a difference in recruiting. Heck, we change our uni's about every game these days. Maybe wearing a recognizable one will do the trick on a weekly basis! Maybe in Maroon and white. I'll contact Oregon and see if they have any suggestions!******* Hail State!

It may not, but attempting to come up with solutions is better than not.

HoopsDawg
12-18-2018, 10:50 PM
Need a Raydar miracle

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 10:53 PM
We're gonna find out what JoMo is made of on the recruiting trail here.

The last 12 hours before signing day separates the men from the boys.

Appears he's 0-1 with James

GreenheadDawg
12-18-2018, 10:55 PM
Middle finger mofo

Right back at you bitch

msstate7
12-18-2018, 11:12 PM
We're gonna find out what JoMo is made of on the recruiting trail here.

The last 12 hours before signing day separates the men from the boys.

Appears he's 0-1 with James

If we getting hall, it's 1-1

Commercecomet24
12-18-2018, 11:23 PM
If we getting hall, it's 1-1

Right and it's not really over til February

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 11:29 PM
If we getting hall, it's 1-1

Looks like Arkansas bought Brooks tonight.

Things are going south on the CB board. Big time

Irondawg
12-18-2018, 11:30 PM
The latest news on Brooks is not encouraging.

msstate7
12-18-2018, 11:31 PM
Looks like Arkansas bought Brooks tonight.

Things are going south on the CB board. Big time

Can key play cb now that we getting fields? Haha... laughing to not cry. Big blow to our defense esp with all the WRs coming into the west this year and last

Red Sox Dawg
12-18-2018, 11:32 PM
Real possibility we lose 2 of our 3 CB commits, maybe all 3

Red Sox Dawg
12-18-2018, 11:33 PM
Makes room for Plumlee and Jones

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 11:33 PM
Can key play cb now that we getting fields? Haha... laughing to not cry. Big blow to our defense esp with all the WRs coming into the west this year and last

Brutal. I realize it's not all T Buck's fault, but this is a bad look for him.

msstate7
12-18-2018, 11:33 PM
The latest news on Brooks is not encouraging.

I'm sure I'm just recalling the ones they won, but it seems Morris has taken to us a few times now

Irondawg
12-18-2018, 11:34 PM
They must have sold him on early PT somehow because word always was the family liked us. Frustrating to potentially lose a defensive player in our recruiting area to ark without any clear connection to ark

Irondawg
12-18-2018, 11:36 PM
Tbuck has had some trouble closing the deal lately on the CB targets. Finishing second a lot

msstate7
12-18-2018, 11:36 PM
They must have sold him on early PT somehow because word always was the family liked us. Frustrating to potentially lose a defensive player in our recruiting area to ark without any clear connection to ark

Esp with us fielding an elite defense with draft picks coming up. Ark was a disaster

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 11:36 PM
I'm sure I'm just recalling the ones they won, but it seems Morris has taken to us a few times now

They've absolutely got to be buying players there. There is no explanation for why a kid from Louisiana would choose Arkansas over MSU right now.

msstate7
12-18-2018, 11:38 PM
Tbuck has had some trouble closing the deal lately on the CB targets. Finishing second a lot

Maybe we should contact Wesley McGriff. Guy is supposedly a really good recruiter, and he's worked with shoop at vandy. I'm not advocating fire tbuck... just throwing a name out there I actually like as a position coach

WPS
12-18-2018, 11:51 PM
They must have sold him on early PT somehow because word always was the family liked us. Frustrating to potentially lose a defensive player in our recruiting area to ark without any clear connection to ark

He’s friends with several New Orleans players on the Arkansas roster. And I’m sure Chavis is selling his time at LSU.

You guys did get Brule who we went after pretty hard.

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 11:54 PM
He’s friends with several New Orleans players on the Arkansas roster. And I’m sure Chavis is selling his time at LSU.

You guys did get Brule who we went after pretty hard.

You should not be out recruiting us on a kid from Louisiana right now. Personally, I think you guys are starting to buy players. Your program sucks & you shouldn't be recruiting like you are.

Before you laugh, realize that we are the team that fights with Ole Miss, well known cheaters, on most players. We know what cheating looks like.

Absolutely absurd what this kid is doing.

ShotgunDawg
12-18-2018, 11:59 PM
He’s friends with several New Orleans players on the Arkansas roster. And I’m sure Chavis is selling his time at LSU.

You guys did get Brule who we went after pretty hard.

And FWIW, he has friends on MSU's roster as well.

HoopsDawg
12-18-2018, 11:59 PM
He’s friends with several New Orleans players on the Arkansas roster. And I’m sure Chavis is selling his time at LSU.

You guys did get Brule who we went after pretty hard.

Chavis? Does Brooks realize it's not 1998?

Irondawg
12-19-2018, 12:01 AM
I’m not willing to go that far quite yet but Chavis has been bad on D for a while. For whatever reason we are struggling to sell success in recruiting. We didn’t capitalize on being ranked #1 and we aren’t closing well on D (thus far) after having the #1 D this year.

That said I’m not sure how good Brooks even is over replacement value

bobcat91
12-19-2018, 12:05 AM
Recruit the hell out of Mississippi kids. That's all

ShotgunDawg
12-19-2018, 12:06 AM
Recruit the hell out of Mississippi kids. That's all

Couldn't even get in the game with half of them

msstate7
12-19-2018, 12:06 AM
Missouri got another qb transfer. He has to sit, so they set after Bryant now.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-19-2018, 12:07 AM
You should not be out recruiting us on a kid from Louisiana right now. Personally, I think you guys are starting to buy players. Your program sucks & you shouldn't be recruiting like you are.

Before you laugh, realize that we are the team that fights with Ole Miss, well known cheaters, on most players. We know what cheating looks like.

Absolutely absurd what this kid is doing.

If they were buying players why would they pay 3 stars and not pay 4 and 5 stars?

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 12:08 AM
I’m not willing to go that far quite yet but Chavis has been bad on D for a while. For whatever reason we are struggling to sell success in recruiting. We didn’t capitalize on being ranked #1 and we aren’t closing well on D (thus far) after having the #1 D this year.

That said I’m not sure how good Brooks even is over replacement value

DJ James hurts way more than Brooks.

msstate7
12-19-2018, 12:08 AM
If they were buying players why would they pay 3 stars and not pay 4 and 5 stars?

Tyson and Walmart holding back funds till they get a bowl game**

WPS
12-19-2018, 12:14 AM
You should not be out recruiting us on a kid from Louisiana right now. Personally, I think you guys are starting to buy players. Your program sucks & you shouldn't be recruiting like you are.

Before you laugh, realize that we are the team that fights with Ole Miss, well known cheaters, on most players. We know what cheating looks like.

Absolutely absurd what this kid is doing.

I would feel the same way if the roles were reversed honestly but we aren?t going to get better without getting better players first. That?s kinda how it works. I don?t think any of our current commits expect to be 2-10 three years from now when they are getting the bulk of the playing time. A lot can change in that span.

Irondawg
12-19-2018, 12:16 AM
DJ James hurts way more than Brooks.

No doubt. Not sure where we go find replacement CB as they went a lot of names leaking that we were keeping warm. Until today I think the staff thought James and Brooks were solid

ShotgunDawg
12-19-2018, 12:17 AM
I would feel the same way if the roles were reversed honestly but we aren?t going to get better without getting better players first. That?s kinda how it works. I don?t think any of our current commits expect to be 2-10 three years from now when they are getting the bulk of the playing time. A lot can change in that span.

Yeah, and you are buying players. Just stop it.

BTW, I know you guys don't flip many recruits like this, but I'll give you a heads up. The guys like Brooks that flip at the last 2nd like this, never pan out. Ole Miss has done this to us multiple times & the kids always flame out.

It's likely that we just handed you guys a problem.

GeorgeKaplan
12-19-2018, 12:20 AM
I'm chill, bro. I'm pretty happy with the state of all my teams at the moment.

Or how about an entire board

msstate7
12-19-2018, 12:24 AM
Or how about an entire board

Yeah, posts like yours have no business here, right?

WPS
12-19-2018, 12:30 AM
Yeah, and you are buying players. Just stop it.

BTW, I know you guys don't flip many recruits like this, but I'll give you a heads up. The guys like Brooks that flip at the last 2nd like this, never pan out. Ole Miss has done this to us multiple times & the kids always flame out.

It's likely that we just handed you guys a problem.

Guess we’ll see, just think making a 4-year decision on how a team is currently doing on the field is pretty short sighted. Those that committed to Petrino after his 11-2 season probably felt pretty stupid having to deal with John L. Smith and Bielema as upperclassmen.

Bothrops
12-19-2018, 12:34 AM
Chavis shouldn't be able to sell a cat turd to a Boston Terrier at this point.

msstate7
12-19-2018, 12:37 AM
So Paul CB'd hall to auburn. Losing brooks, hall, and James. Anything unexpected good likely to happen or all bad?

ShotgunDawg
12-19-2018, 12:38 AM
Guess we?ll see, just think making a 4-year decision on how a team is currently doing on the field is pretty short sighted. Those that committed to Petrino after his 11-2 season probably felt pretty stupid having to deal with John L. Smith and Bielema as upperclassmen.

I mean, we've been pretty good for a while & you guys have been pretty shitty for a while. It's highly likely that Brooks doesn't play his entire career for Morris.

BTW, your post is stupid. Of course how good a team is should matter in recruiting.

You guys are easily the worst program in the SEC right now with a drug dealer on team carrying around an AR15, & you want to tell me that it's short sighted to think that program may not be as good as one that has been to 9 straight bowl games?

I understand your an Arkansas fan & are trying to see things through WPS glasses, which we do as well, but just look at your logic.

As we saw with Ole Miss, bad programs don't just jump up & start recruiting well unless BS is going on.

Bothrops
12-19-2018, 12:39 AM
So Paul CB'd hall to auburn. Losing brooks, hall, and James. Anything unexpected good likely to happen or all bad?

I'm not sure that there's any room left for anything good to happen.

ShotgunDawg
12-19-2018, 12:41 AM
So Paul CB'd hall to auburn. Losing brooks, hall, and James. Anything unexpected good likely to happen or all bad?

Completely embarrassing close by our staff.

We've been to 9 straight bowl games.

What is it going to take to start recruiting better?

What can we do?

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 12:45 AM
So Paul CB'd hall to auburn. Losing brooks, hall, and James. Anything unexpected good likely to happen or all bad?

I've got a feeling signing day is going to feel exactly like the 2018 season.

KOdawg1
12-19-2018, 12:45 AM
Tomorrow looks like it's gonna suck. Let's hope we get a few surprises. The good kind

Lord McBuckethead
12-19-2018, 12:49 AM
If they were buying players why would they pay 3 stars and not pay 4 and 5 stars?

Cause 3 stars are the best they can get?

Bothrops
12-19-2018, 12:51 AM
This isn't on the staff. This is a better recruiting staff than what we've had the past 9 years. What's going on is a little bit of bullshit, a little bit of kids being misled by other kids, a little bit of having kin folks that aren't smart enough to be giving advice, and a little bit of negative perception.

ShotgunDawg
12-19-2018, 12:55 AM
This isn't on the staff. This is a better recruiting staff than what we've had the past 9 years. What's going on is a little bit of bullshit, a little bit of kids being misled by other kids, a little bit of having kin folks that aren't smart enough to be giving advice, and a little bit of negative perception.

Are we recruiting better?

We are about to sign about the same class we always have under Mullen with significantly more in-state talent.

Stupid people are attracted to flashy things & we are not flashy enough. Problem is that athletic talent isn't biased to only smart people & MSU isn't Stanford or Notre Dame academically.

So, somehow, we've got to get kids & families that are attracted to flashy things to sign with us.

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 12:55 AM
Let it play out. See what happens tomorrow and then how it finishes in February. This staff is going to get the players, be patient.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 12:58 AM
Are we recruiting better?

We are about to sign about the same class we always have under Mullen with significantly more in-state talent.

That's the big thing. We are going to sign some talented guys tomorrow and hopefully more in February. But this is the most talented in state group in a long time. If we were ever going to be top 15, this was the year.

Todd4State
12-19-2018, 01:04 AM
Let it play out. See what happens tomorrow and then how it finishes in February. This staff is going to get the players, be patient.

Wise advice.

Irondawg
12-19-2018, 01:13 AM
At least if Hall goes to Auburn he lands at who was his leader all year.

Bothrops
12-19-2018, 01:16 AM
Are we recruiting better?

We are about to sign about the same class we always have under Mullen with significantly more in-state talent.

Stupid people are attracted to flashy things & we are not flashy enough. Problem is that athletic talent isn't biased to only smart people & MSU isn't Stanford or Notre Dame academically.

So, somehow, we've got to get kids & families that are attracted to flashy things to sign with us.

What your saying is pretty much true. It is why we are never going to recruit better than we have been because the media don't like us, therefore the recruiting services don't like us, and every staff we get will have to deal with the same bullshit as the preceding ones. The negative perception, the systematic cheating, and the exceedingly ignorant people that infiltrate our recruiting footprint. The staff we have is a good recruiting staff and the kids responded, but we aren't able to close like we need to because of the aforementioned reasons. We will sign a top 25 class, or may sign a top 30 class.

Todd4State
12-19-2018, 01:16 AM
Are we recruiting better?

We are about to sign about the same class we always have under Mullen with significantly more in-state talent.

Stupid people are attracted to flashy things & we are not flashy enough. Problem is that athletic talent isn't biased to only smart people & MSU isn't Stanford or Notre Dame academically.

So, somehow, we've got to get kids & families that are attracted to flashy things to sign with us.

Ironically by losing 1-2 three star CB's it opens up the door for us to land four star John Rys Plumlee. That means by losing Brooks we're actually probably going to improve our recruiting rank. And with an in state player.

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 01:19 AM
Ironically by losing 1-2 three star CB's it opens up the door for us to land four star John Rys Plumlee. That means by losing Brooks we're actually probably going to improve our recruiting rank. And with an in state player.

This^^^. Things looking good on that front .

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 01:22 AM
Plumlee’s girlfriend goes where...

bobcat91
12-19-2018, 01:29 AM
Ari and IYOK stayed far away from the boards tonight. You should have known what was coming

Todd4State
12-19-2018, 01:33 AM
Plumlee’s girlfriend goes where...

You tell me.

Bothrops
12-19-2018, 02:00 AM
Ironically by losing 1-2 three star CB's it opens up the door for us to land four star John Rys Plumlee. That means by losing Brooks we're actually probably going to improve our recruiting rank. And with an in state player.

Look for James' to get substantial bump in the final rankings.

GeorgeKaplan
12-19-2018, 02:02 AM
Completely embarrassing close by our staff.

We've been to 9 straight bowl games.

What is it going to take to start recruiting better?

What can we do?
I hope you are married already bc you are gd depressing.

MetEdDawg
12-19-2018, 06:53 AM
Completely embarrassing close by our staff.

We've been to 9 straight bowl games.

What is it going to take to start recruiting better?

What can we do?

You know what's embarrassing? Getting pissed at our staff losing an out of state kid that you were just the other day clamoring on about how our in state kids should have more pride and stay home and go to our schools.

Now James, who is from Alabama, gets interest from his in state schools, delays his announcement, and our staff is the one that should be embarrassed? Wake up and smell the hypocrisy.

Doggie_Style
12-19-2018, 07:42 AM
You know what's embarrassing? Getting pissed at our staff losing an out of state kid that you were just the other day clamoring on about how our in state kids should have more pride and stay home and go to our schools.

Now James, who is from Alabama, gets interest from his in state schools, delays his announcement, and our staff is the one that should be embarrassed? Wake up and smell the hypocrisy.

We basically lost our whole CB class....3 guys... it is a big deal. If you lost 3 big contracts at work the day before they were to close how happy would your boss be? I do think we move Witherspoon to CB and still have time to fill holes but yea this is a big miss.

chef dixon
12-19-2018, 07:46 AM
We seem to struggle to get a lot of other teams commits on late visits but our guys tend to go on them all the time. Could be off but just an observation

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
12-19-2018, 07:49 AM
Let it play out. See what happens tomorrow and then how it finishes in February. This staff is going to get the players, be patient.

Seems like they?re finding out what SEC recruiting is all about, even though they should be well prepared considering they skipped bowl game practice last year to recruit. Are they overwhelmed with having to do recruiting and bowl game prep at the same time? I can take guys going to Bama, but losing them to Auburn and Arky aren?t good for having successful seasons. They?re usually both swing games and determine our finish in the West.

GreenheadDawg
12-19-2018, 08:00 AM
You know it’s never good when IYOK and Ari are nowhere to be found. Not good at all

StateDawg44
12-19-2018, 08:16 AM
Damn. The sky must be falling the way some of you are acting. As if flips don't happen every year.

Bdawg
12-19-2018, 08:32 AM
With competition decreasing at CB. How do we feel with Emerson?

Hambone
12-19-2018, 08:37 AM
If IF we pull Plumlee and Raydar I call today a win

1bigdawg
12-19-2018, 08:54 AM
If IF we pull Plumlee and Raydar I call today a win

That would be a huuuge win.

MetEdDawg
12-19-2018, 09:10 AM
If IF we pull Plumlee and Raydar I call today a win

Guess we are losing then. Didn't Plumlee say he's waiting until February?

SailingDawg
12-19-2018, 09:25 AM
Derick Hall signed with Auburn.

Auburn Media guy was talking with his family just before his signing, all smiles, I knew it wouldn't be good for MSU.

Doggie_Style
12-19-2018, 09:29 AM
If IF we pull Plumlee and Raydar I call today a win

Raydar will sign with either LSU or the bears, Plumlee waits till February...

So we will sign no LB's, no CB's, no elite HS WR's or RB's. 2 of our 4 elite DL, 4 OL's including an elite OL (yea!) and 3 safeties including and elite safety (awesome!). We will sign 15 today and have a mountain to climb to land 7-8 of the 10 left to sign in the next seven weeks. Not a bad class but not 'Championship Standard' either. I hope to see Moorhead make some adjustments and clean things up for 2020.

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 09:29 AM
If IF we pull Plumlee and Raydar I call today a win

We aren't getting r jones.

Coursesuper
12-19-2018, 09:32 AM
Derick Hall signed with Auburn.

Auburn Media guy was talking with his family just before his signing, all smiles, I knew it wouldn't be good for MSU.

That's fine with me, we aren't missing out not getting that one.

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 09:33 AM
Raydar will sign with either LSU or the bears, Plumlee waits till February...

So we will sign no LB's, no CB's, no elite HS WR's or RB's. 2 of our 4 elite DL, 4 OL's including an elite OL (yea!) and 3 safeties including and elite safety (awesome!). We will sign 15 today and have a mountain to climb to land 7-8 of the 10 left to sign in the next seven weeks. Not a bad class but not 'Championship Standard' either. I hope to see Moorhead make some adjustments and clean things up for 2020.

I've said it before, this staff works extremely hard recruiting. And hopefully as years pass it will improve results. But this class is going to end up ranked much like Mullen's 7th in the west 11th or so in the league and in the 25-30 range nationally.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
12-19-2018, 09:37 AM
Raydar will sign with either LSU or the bears, Plumlee waits till February...

So we will sign no LB's, no CB's, no elite HS WR's or RB's. 2 of our 4 elite DL, 4 OL's including an elite OL (yea!) and 3 safeties including and elite safety (awesome!). We will sign 15 today and have a mountain to climb to land 7-8 of the 10 left to sign in the next seven weeks. Not a bad class but not 'Championship Standard' either. I hope to see Moorhead make some adjustments and clean things up for 2020.

The problem is, this class is loaded. Next year? Did they not learn anything when they skipped bowl practice last season to recruit? I guess just like the games, our staff is having to adjust to the SEC.

MetEdDawg
12-19-2018, 09:43 AM
The problem is, this class is loaded. Next year? Did they not learn anything when they skipped bowl practice last season to recruit? I guess just like the games, our staff is having to adjust to the SEC.

Yeah I'm shocked they weren't able to learn everything about recruiting for Mississippi State in that one month. Surely that's plenty of time to fix everything and bring us back to the times when we were a recruiting machine.

Scared_Hitless
12-19-2018, 09:45 AM
This is why I don't live on the edge with recruiting. We have a good class hell excellent for MSU standards. Losing James sucks but that fight is not finished. Add Plumlee as another DB/S and possibly add Young in January I dont understand what the complaints would be.

As usual we will fill it in with a few projects and people that are cut loose by other programs its the way of the road.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 09:47 AM
I've said it before, this staff works extremely hard recruiting. And hopefully as years pass it will improve results. But this class is going to end up ranked much like Mullen's 7th in the west 11th or so in the league and in the 25-30 range nationally.

Rick Ray worked hard too. It's about results. Considering the talent in the state this year, this is disappointing.

Doggie_Style
12-19-2018, 10:00 AM
Rick Ray worked hard too. It's about results. Considering the talent in the state this year, this is disappointing.

It is disappointing. Very similar to the 2018 season in that we should have won at least 10 games but won 8. We should have been in much better shape with this class but we aren't. Like you said at the end of the day it's about results.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:09 AM
I don't understand why we aren't signing Cunningham today. I realize he has a long way to go to qualify, but we clearly have the room available and I would hate to lose him in February. Oh well, I guess we know what we are doing.

Turfdawg67
12-19-2018, 10:10 AM
You know what's embarrassing? Getting pissed at our staff losing an out of state kid that you were just the other day clamoring on about how our in state kids should have more pride and stay home and go to our schools.

Now James, who is from Alabama, gets interest from his in state schools, delays his announcement, and our staff is the one that should be embarrassed? Wake up and smell the hypocrisy.

Ha! You are trying logic on him? Might as well explain quantum physics to a third grader.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 10:14 AM
I don't understand why we aren't signing Cunningham today. I realize he has a long way to go to qualify, but we clearly have the room available and I would hate to lose him in February. Oh well, I guess we know what we are doing.

Because you don't want him counting against you. Signing juco kids still counts against our numbers in the class. Got to wait on him.

Coursesuper
12-19-2018, 10:15 AM
I don't understand why we aren't signing Cunningham today. I realize he has a long way to go to qualify, but we clearly have the room available and I would hate to lose him in February. Oh well, I guess we know what we are doing.

From what I'm hearing from St. Martin staff its going to be tough for him to make it. He might but its a long haul.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
12-19-2018, 10:16 AM
Yeah I'm shocked they weren't able to learn everything about recruiting for Mississippi State in that one month. Surely that's plenty of time to fix everything and bring us back to the times when we were a recruiting machine.

But these guys were supposed to be recruiters. Apparently the previous staff handed last year to them on a platter. Oh well, maybe having Hughes back will pay off.

Fix everything? Nothing needs fixing, just improvement. That's why I don't understand when JoMo says we need to fix the culture.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:17 AM
Because you don't want him counting against you. Signing juco kids still counts against our numbers in the class. Got to wait on him.

We have plenty of room though. We could actually sign 28 in this class but we can't because of the 85. It wouldn't hurt us at all. But he's probably not going to make it anyway so moot point.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 10:21 AM
We have plenty of room though. We could actually sign 28 in this class but we can't because of the 85. It wouldn't hurt us at all. But he's probably not going to make it anyway so moot point.

We aren't wasting a spot. Someone will get an offer if he doesn't qualify.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:24 AM
We aren't wasting a spot. Someone will get an offer if he doesn't qualify.

that makes no sense. we won't know if he's going to qualify or not in February.

MetEdDawg
12-19-2018, 10:30 AM
But these guys were supposed to be recruiters. Apparently the previous staff handed last year to them on a platter. Oh well, maybe having Hughes back will pay off.

Fix everything? Nothing needs fixing, just improvement. That's why I don't understand when JoMo says we need to fix the culture.

So on one hand you say these guys are supposed to be recruiters so they should be doing better. But then when Joe Mo says the culture needs to be fixed, you don't listen to him? If he says it needs to be fixed then it needs to be fixed.

This class was always going to be hard for Joe Mo. These kids had known Mullen for 2+ years and Joe had to come in during the last half of their junior year and try and keep the ones we had and recruit the ones we didn't all in less than a year.

Next year's class will be much easier for him to recruit because of familiarity. In case you haven't noticed though, we pulled a 4 star DL from Tennessee, flipped Cross from FSU, and have the QB of the future from Virginia. We locked down some solid in state talent and also went out of state to fill needs. We may not even lose James either. So I'm not sure why everyone is burning this thing down.

Bothrops
12-19-2018, 10:33 AM
Woodshedded. Good luck to our coaches finding replacements. I feel badly for them, but this is MSU recuiting, win or lose on the field. It's an unfortunate shame.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 10:34 AM
that makes no sense. we won't know if he's going to qualify or not in February.

We'll have a good idea. He'll be almost half way through is last semester of HS. And we wouldn't have let Bedford go if he wasn't likely to qualify.

Turfdawg67
12-19-2018, 10:35 AM
So on one hand you say these guys are supposed to be recruiters so they should be doing better. But then when Joe Mo says the culture needs to be fixed, you don't listen to him? If he says it needs to be fixed then it needs to be fixed.

This class was always going to be hard for Joe Mo. These kids had known Mullen for 2+ years and Joe had to come in during the last half of their junior year and try and keep the ones we had and recruit the ones we didn't all in less than a year.

Next year's class will be much easier for him to recruit because of familiarity. In case you haven't noticed though, we pulled a 4 star DL from Tennessee, flipped Cross from FSU, and have the QB of the future from Virginia. We locked down some solid in state talent and also went out of state to fill needs. We may not even lose James either. So I'm not sure why everyone is burning this thing down.

It's okay bro. It's only a few posters, most of us agree with you. The same douchebags are gonna complain about everything.

sscjr1
12-19-2018, 10:39 AM
So on one hand you say these guys are supposed to be recruiters so they should be doing better. But then when Joe Mo says the culture needs to be fixed, you don't listen to him? If he says it needs to be fixed then it needs to be fixed.

This class was always going to be hard for Joe Mo. These kids had known Mullen for 2+ years and Joe had to come in during the last half of their junior year and try and keep the ones we had and recruit the ones we didn't all in less than a year.

Next year's class will be much easier for him to recruit because of familiarity. In case you haven't noticed though, we pulled a 4 star DL from Tennessee, flipped Cross from FSU, and have the QB of the future from Virginia. We locked down some solid in state talent and also went out of state to fill needs. We may not even lose James either. So I'm not sure why everyone is burning this thing down.

Probably because we have a historically good instate class, and we have been told that this staff is such an upgrade from the previous staff

duncflydawg
12-19-2018, 10:43 AM
Hadad just posted the Paul Jones ?Little Rascal Waiting? gif that Paul uses when he gets word of a surprise commitment. Anyone know if there is some unexpected good news coming?

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:44 AM
We'll have a good idea. He'll be almost half way through is last semester of HS. And we wouldn't have let Bedford go if he wasn't likely to qualify.

LOL, then we should have signed him today which was my original point!

MetEdDawg
12-19-2018, 10:45 AM
Probably because we have a historically good instate class, and we have been told that this staff is such an upgrade from the previous staff

So they were supposed to in less than one year flip all these kids? Guys it doesn't work like that.

It is blatantly obvious that the majority of people on this board don't work with kids. If you don't work with kids or don't have serious connections to the staff or the university, you probably don't know dick about recruiting. 95% of what you know is message board bullcrap or stuff you've heard other people say. If you aren't interacting with kids who are being recruited, you don't have a clue as to what really is important to kids.

That's why these staying at home posts or bashing our staff for losing kids to OM, Bama, and Auburn posts are dumb and ignorant. The majority of you just don't get how many factors play in to these decisions.

With that being said, I'm going to go watch one of my former students sign a LOI to play P5 football in about 50 minutes. He's still got a big decision to make on where he's going to play. Could be SEC. But having coached the kid and taught the kid, I at least have an understanding of why things happen the way they do. Trying to make recruiting simple to understand is impossible. That's why many of our fans don't get it and are ignorant about the fact that they don't know why things happen.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 10:49 AM
LOL, then we should have signed him today which was my original point!

No, we wait til Feb to know. That was the whole damn point is saying he'd be halfway through his last semester. Your reading comprehension sucks as much as your takes.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:53 AM
No, we wait til Feb to know. That was the whole damn point is saying he'd be halfway through his last semester. Your reading comprehension sucks as much as your takes.

5 weeks of school after Christmas is not going to provide any more clarity. That's what i get for engaging in a discussion with a poster named "Cooterpoot".

Turfdawg67
12-19-2018, 10:58 AM
No, we wait til Feb to know. That was the whole damn point is saying he'd be halfway through his last semester. Your reading comprehension sucks as much as your takes.

Agreed. +1

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
12-19-2018, 10:58 AM
So they were supposed to in less than one year flip all these kids? Guys it doesn't work like that.

It is blatantly obvious that the majority of people on this board don't work with kids. If you don't work with kids or don't have serious connections to the staff or the university, you probably don't know dick about recruiting. 95% of what you know is message board bullcrap or stuff you've heard other people say. If you aren't interacting with kids who are being recruited, you don't have a clue as to what really is important to kids.

That's why these staying at home posts or bashing our staff for losing kids to OM, Bama, and Auburn posts are dumb and ignorant. The majority of you just don't get how many factors play in to these decisions.

With that being said, I'm going to go watch one of my former students sign a LOI to play P5 football in about 50 minutes. He's still got a big decision to make on where he's going to play. Could be SEC. But having coached the kid and taught the kid, I at least have an understanding of why things happen the way they do. Trying to make recruiting simple to understand is impossible. That's why many of our fans don't get it and are ignorant about the fact that they don't know why things happen.

I work with kids, but they're not recruited.

It's the majority and you're right we're not in the same position as you to know all the details of recruiting and to be honest, I don't want to. We go off of information provided by insiders here on this board and others. Just like the preseason hype, we're not living up to expectations. Now were those expectations unrealistic, I can't answer that.

Go enjoy your former student sign his LOI. That's more important than a message board.

Good luck to your student athlete.

sscjr1
12-19-2018, 11:04 AM
So they were supposed to in less than one year flip all these kids? Guys it doesn't work like that.

It is blatantly obvious that the majority of people on this board don't work with kids. If you don't work with kids or don't have serious connections to the staff or the university, you probably don't know dick about recruiting. 95% of what you know is message board bullcrap or stuff you've heard other people say. If you aren't interacting with kids who are being recruited, you don't have a clue as to what really is important to kids.

That's why these staying at home posts or bashing our staff for losing kids to OM, Bama, and Auburn posts are dumb and ignorant. The majority of you just don't get how many factors play in to these decisions.

With that being said, I'm going to go watch one of my former students sign a LOI to play P5 football in about 50 minutes. He's still got a big decision to make on where he's going to play. Could be SEC. But having coached the kid and taught the kid, I at least have an understanding of why things happen the way they do. Trying to make recruiting simple to understand is impossible. That's why many of our fans don't get it and are ignorant about the fact that they don't know why things happen.

Nowhere in my post did I say anything about flipping anyone. In fact, it's our commitments that we are now worried about being flipped, as always. How long has Chad Morris been at Arkansas? I was simply explaining why certain posters are upset at the state or our recruitment.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:08 AM
I doubt it

To each his own. But it will, and has.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:09 AM
He'll most likely go to OM. Big OM family.

Y'all need to drop this argument. His Dad has taken him to Starkville more than he has Oxford and they both love Moorhead.

They are going to do what's best for Will, they know the shape OM is in.

duncflydawg
12-19-2018, 11:14 AM
As much as I love State and as much as we are a 3rd Generation State fam, if State was in the shape that OM is in and Ole Miss was truly the best fit for my student athlete, I would want my kid to go where he is going to be successful. I love State, but I love my kids and family more. Hopefully, the majority of parents are this way.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:16 AM
Couldn't even get in the game with half of them

Dude haha you have got to relax. You are so high and so low all the time idk how you dont have a heart attack

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:24 AM
I dont understand the melt at all. I've understood some but this one just blows my mind. Chicken little on here today

Jack Lambert
12-19-2018, 11:26 AM
I dont understand the melt at all. I've understood some but this one just blows my mind. Chicken little on here today

Yep a lot of Chicken Little. We are still at 16, one spot hiring then we were yesterday on 247.

Scared_Hitless
12-19-2018, 11:27 AM
I mean as of today who have we officially lost? Just Brooks correct? Geez sky is not falling.

BrunswickDawg
12-19-2018, 11:31 AM
Yep a lot of Chicken Little. We are still at 16, one spot hiring then we were yesterday on 247.

Yeah - some people melting like we are having a 2016 Redux today. Whatever happens, nothing will ever top that shitfest.

KOdawg1
12-19-2018, 11:31 AM
I mean as of today who have we officially lost? Just Brooks correct? Geez sky is not falling.

Technically yes. But we'll lose James and possibly Washington in February

Scared_Hitless
12-19-2018, 11:33 AM
Technically yes. But we'll lose James and possibly Washington in February

If we lose them we have 3 months to find adequate replacements. Not gonna lose sleep over it. Keep Charles Moore in the boat is the only key for me. Really like the look of this class.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:34 AM
I mean as of today who have we officially lost? Just Brooks correct? Geez sky is not falling.

Brooks is still listed as a commit on 247...

Jones can play CB better than either one of them can. Or WR.

We are going to sign a top 25 class at minimum. Prolly top 20 and top 15 if things go well. Its going to be ok.

Scared_Hitless
12-19-2018, 11:38 AM
Brooks is still listed as a commit on 247...

Jones can play CB better than either one of them can. Or WR.

We are going to sign a top 25 class at minimum. Prolly top 20 and top 15 if things go well. Its going to be ok.

I am going to need you to stop being logical and live and die on every Paul Jones update.**

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 11:39 AM
If we lose them we have 3 months to find adequate replacements. .

7 weeks.

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 11:44 AM
Brooks is still listed as a commit on 247...

Jones can play CB better than either one of them can. Or WR.

We are going to sign a top 25 class at minimum. Prolly top 20 and top 15 if things go well. Its going to be ok.

I would love for you to be correct, however, not sure how the math works out to sign a top20 class at this point. 247 hasn't done any subtracting yet. Not like there are a lot of high end guys we will replace them with, plumlee???

Scared_Hitless
12-19-2018, 11:47 AM
I would love for you to be correct, however, not sure how the math works out to sign a top20 class at this point. 247 hasn't done any subtracting yet. Not like there are a lot of high end guys we will replace them with, plumlee???

Some guys are going to be cut loose after today. It's going to be okay. I mean thinking this way we would have never had Mckinney, Tavese, JBanks, and lots of other studs that were lowly rated.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:51 AM
I would love for you to be correct, however, not sure how the math works out to sign a top20 class at this point. 247 hasn't done any subtracting yet. Not like there are a lot of high end guys we will replace them with, plumlee???

Plumlee
Mingo
Ealy
TJ Jones
Whoever the JUCO DT is

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 11:54 AM
Plumlee
Mingo
Ealy
TJ Jones
Whoever the JUCO DT is

I think we get ealy, even though it might not matter. But i'd like to get him anyway. Guess we will wait and see on Mingo and Plumlee. I don't get the warm and fuzzies about him, Mingo.

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 11:56 AM
Some guys are going to be cut loose after today. It's going to be okay. I mean thinking this way we would have never had Mckinney, Tavese, JBanks, and lots of other studs that were lowly rated.

We were taking Mckinney and Banks no matter. Calhoun is the only one you named that we got because someone left us at the alter. But you could add E Jenkins to your list to be fair. That was certainly a good get late.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:57 AM
I think we get ealy, even though it might not matter. But i'd like to get him anyway. Guess we will wait and see on Mingo and Plumlee. I don't get the warm and fuzzies about him, Mingo.

I think he goes to us or UGA if they give him a solid offer

NCDawg
12-19-2018, 11:59 AM
I note Hall, the DE from Gulfport, who some on here said we were going to sign, signed with Auburn. I understand Auburn was his first choice, anyway.

Jack Lambert
12-19-2018, 12:13 PM
I think we get ealy, even though it might not matter. But i'd like to get him anyway. Guess we will wait and see on Mingo and Plumlee. I don't get the warm and fuzzies about him, Mingo.

I wold love to have him on team but I don't think he will go to college but recruiting rankings is really important to Ole Miss and I would love to flip him.

thf24
12-19-2018, 12:30 PM
We were taking Mckinney and Banks no matter. Calhoun is the only one you named that we got because someone left us at the alter. But you could add E Jenkins to your list to be fair. That was certainly a good get late.

Calhoun was also added to help with Quay Evans if I'm not mistaken. For all the previous staff's supposed developmental prowess, there were very few true plan C's or D's who turned out to be studs.

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 12:37 PM
I think we get ealy, even though it might not matter. But i'd like to get him anyway. Guess we will wait and see on Mingo and Plumlee. I don't get the warm and fuzzies about him, Mingo.

We are in good shape with Plumlee right now.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 12:37 PM
Demonte Russell??

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 12:39 PM
Nvm Russell just signed

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 12:44 PM
We are in good shape with Plumlee right now.

You're a baseball guy, have we told him he could play baseball too?

I cant remember us ever having a guy that played both

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 12:52 PM
You're a baseball guy, have we told him he could play baseball too?

I cant remember us ever having a guy that played both

Yes, he's been offered that option. He loves baseball and wants to play at a high level. I'm showing my age now but Tim Parenton and Glen Young both played football and baseball.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 01:03 PM
Yes, he's been offered that option. He loves baseball and wants to play at a high level. I'm showing my age now but Tim Parenton and Glen Young both played football and baseball.

Oh ok good deal. I think we have a good chance of signing him. We should give him a chance to play QB if thats what gets him on campus. Let him see if he wants to play somewhere else after we get him in the boat.

Those two are way before my time old man haha

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 01:09 PM
Oh ok good deal. I think we have a good chance of signing him. We should give him a chance to play QB if thats what gets him on campus. Let him see if he wants to play somewhere else after we get him in the boat.

Those two are way before my time old man haha

I agree, get him signed up and then go from there. Yes I am getting old lol. I knew Tim a little from my baseball playing days and he was good dude. Fiesty little player who was Bond's backup and decent little infielder. Head baseball coach at North Florida now.

TrapGame
12-19-2018, 01:17 PM
I think we get ealy, even though it might not matter. But i'd like to get him anyway. Guess we will wait and see on Mingo and Plumlee. I don't get the warm and fuzzies about him, Mingo.

Talked to a church member who's a MLB scout and he said Ealy is a first rounder looking at a $2 mil signing bonus. He also said he didn't think Ealy was dropping om.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 01:30 PM
Talked to a church member who's a MLB scout and he said Ealy is a first rounder looking at a $2 mil signing bonus. He also said he didn't think Ealy was dropping om.

Ginn turned down around that much

MetEdDawg
12-19-2018, 01:42 PM
Ginn turned down around that much

He turned down a little more than that. But that was definitely an anomaly. I would imagine if he gets that much he gone.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 01:42 PM
Go watch Cross's highlights from the HailState page. That kid is the truth. He whipped the kid from HBurg who is committed to Auburn. He is damn impressive

NCDawg
12-19-2018, 01:51 PM
Talked to a church member who's a MLB scout and he said Ealy is a first rounder looking at a $2 mil signing bonus. He also said he didn't think Ealy was dropping om.

Which is contrary to what an insider on the board posted not too long ago. He stated if Ealy does play football and baseball in college, it will be at State and not Ole Miss.

Coursesuper
12-19-2018, 01:54 PM
Go watch Cross's highlights from the HailState page. That kid is the truth. He whipped the kid from HBurg who is committed to Auburn. He is damn impressive

Did y'all play Gulfport or St. Martin this year?

Turfdawg67
12-19-2018, 01:59 PM
Which is contrary to what an insider on the board posted not too long ago. He stated if Ealy does play football and baseball in college, it will be at State and not Ole Miss.

Not contrary at all. Staying "committed" to OM doesn't mean he will ever step foot on their campus.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 02:11 PM
Did y'all play Gulfport or St. Martin this year?

St. Martin

Coursesuper
12-19-2018, 02:26 PM
St. Martin

That's right, just wondering if you saw Hall, but you saw Cunningham.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 02:36 PM
That's right, just wondering if you saw Hall, but you saw Cunningham.

He played better than he had all year against us. He was the best lineman we saw all year that night IMO. But then you would watch him in other games and he looked average. Their whole team was like that. Their QB and RB were damn good too just showed up when they wanted too, not every game.

If we can get him to play he will be legit. I dont think a lot was demanded out of him at St. Martin.

I saw Hall on film vs Petal, he didnt wow me like Cunningham did when he would go

Coursesuper
12-19-2018, 02:43 PM
He played better than he had all year against us. He was the best lineman we saw all year that night IMO. But then you would watch him in other games and he looked average. Their whole team was like that. Their QB and RB were damn good too just showed up when they wanted too, not every game.

If we can get him to play he will be legit. I dont think a lot was demanded out of him at St. Martin.

I saw Hall on film vs Petal, he didnt wow me like Cunningham did when he would go

Your right about ST. Martin they only got after it when they wanted too, if they played they were pretty good but had a tendency to play down to the competition. Hall never impressed us, we were all kinda wondering what all the hype was about. He looked like he was more worried about how his gloves looked than sticking his head in there and getting after it. Cunningham as ability for sure he has to get it together to get in but he can play.

Doggie_Style
12-19-2018, 02:48 PM
So we still have Walker, Emerson, DJ James, Payton and D. Washington on our board. Who do yall think will stay on the commitment list and who drops off. (We also have Cunningham, Moore and Pickering but those guys we continue to chase for sure)

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 02:54 PM
So we still have Walker, Emerson, DJ James, Payton and D. Washington on our board. Who do yall think will stay on the commitment list and who drops off. (We also have Cunningham, Moore and Pickering but those guys we continue to chase for sure)

All but DJ James I feel good about

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 02:55 PM
Your right about ST. Martin they only got after it when they wanted too, if they played they were pretty good but had a tendency to play down to the competition. Hall never impressed us, we were all kinda wondering what all the hype was about. He looked like he was more worried about how his gloves looked than sticking his head in there and getting after it. Cunningham as ability for sure he has to get it together to get in but he can play.

Hall is a look at me guy. He put a video on twitter last night that cracked me up it was so bad

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 02:57 PM
I'm not going to worry over Walker and Payton. Emerson is 50/50 but I didn't see what Miami did today. James is gone. Washington sticks unless FSU offers or we move on.

KOdawg1
12-19-2018, 03:08 PM
Who are options to look at for CB? Losing James and Brooks, and Emerson being 50/50 leaves us a problem

Todd4State
12-19-2018, 03:09 PM
So we still have Walker, Emerson, DJ James, Payton and D. Washington on our board. Who do yall think will stay on the commitment list and who drops off. (We also have Cunningham, Moore and Pickering but those guys we continue to chase for sure)

Cunningham, Pickering, and Moore.

Doggie_Style
12-19-2018, 03:12 PM
Cunningham, Pickering, and Moore.

read again....we for sure bust our asses making sure we sign those

Turfdawg67
12-19-2018, 03:15 PM
Who are options to look at for CB? Losing James and Brooks, and Emerson being 50/50 leaves us a problem

We lost James for sure? Thought he was just waiting.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 03:19 PM
James was waiting on AL and AU to offer. AU offered. He'll wait on AL but that's the only reason he's waiting.

msstate7
12-19-2018, 03:26 PM
James was waiting on AL and AU to offer. AU offered. He'll wait on AL but that's the only reason he's waiting.

I'm not familiar with Auburn's board at all. Could James waiting on Bama leave him in the cold with auburn?

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 03:51 PM
Go watch Fred Peters. He is legit. He would prolly be the best player on OM's defense right now. He plays violent

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 04:13 PM
Go watch Fred Peters. He is legit. He would prolly be the best player on OM's defense right now. He plays violent

Yeah he's Abram 2.0.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2018, 05:05 PM
I'm not familiar with Auburn's board at all. Could James waiting on Bama leave him in the cold with auburn?

Doubt it. He's probably got to commit to them though. What's funny about it, is James got pissed at AU for not offering early in the process and basically said it didn't matter if they offered.
I don't see AL offering more than a greyshirt. They loaded the boat today. James could play year one for us. Sucks for us.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-19-2018, 05:18 PM
What I miss?

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 05:30 PM
What I miss?

lol the mini melt

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 05:30 PM
What I miss?

Lol, we didn't exactly hit our 80% number that Ari Gold predicted.

ShotgunDawg
12-19-2018, 05:42 PM
What I miss?

WELCOME!

Do we have a chance at the remaining instate guys?

msbulldog
12-19-2018, 07:21 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/e1/77/fee177613f17be908a8342d04ecdd558.jpg

That's funny, I don't care who you are! Rep +1

msbulldog
12-19-2018, 07:32 PM
Yeah that can?t be good. Saban is going to keep him warm and if they miss out on someone he will get that spot. Happens every year

Don't worry about Alabama James has had that offer for a while, worry about the Auburn offer.

msbulldog
12-19-2018, 07:35 PM
They always are. I'm gonna kick back and enjoy my saints get to a super bowl though so I'm good.

WHO DAT!! 1 more game, home all the way! Last time that happened we were World Champions!

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 07:49 PM
Don't worry about Alabama James has had that offer for a while, worry about the Auburn offer.

He couldn't have signed w bama today so not really.

Ifyouonlyknew
12-19-2018, 07:59 PM
WELCOME!

Do we have a chance at the remaining instate guys?

Yes we do.

chef dixon
12-19-2018, 08:15 PM
Is it realistic we sign 11 more?

Red Sox Dawg
12-19-2018, 08:30 PM
I think we can count 2 back, so if we get a little attrition from the 85 man roster limit I think we could sign 13 more. I know we have at least 2 early enrollees. They could save 1 or 2 for transfers. 11-13 more? IYOK, Ari...anyone know?

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 08:45 PM
I think we can count 2 back, so if we get a little attrition from the 85 man roster limit I think we could sign 13 more. I know we have at least 2 early enrollees. They could save 1 or 2 for transfers. 11-13 more? IYOK, Ari...anyone know?

It doesn't matter, we won't sign more than 25 and I doubt we sign 25.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-19-2018, 08:50 PM
Lol, we didn't exactly hit our 80% number that Ari Gold predicted.

Shocking

Homedawg
12-19-2018, 08:53 PM
Ari does a good job w intel. He's not always right, nobody is. Cut the dude some slack

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
12-19-2018, 09:46 PM
It doesn't matter, we won't sign more than 25 and I doubt we sign 25.

So what then, oversign next year?

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 09:56 PM
So what then, oversign next year?

it's really the 85 number to look at. Clemson usually sign less than 25. We will sign 25 if we can find 11 SEC quality players between now and February, but I think it will be 23 or so. Even JoMo doesn't know right now. But yes, we could over sign next year if we needed to.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:18 PM
So what then, oversign next year?

FYI: We are 22 under the 85 right now counting Simmons going pro. Have to assume a TE leaves the team. So 23 might be a good number to look at. That would be 9 signees in February.

1. Pickering
2. Moore
3. Walker
4. Cunningham
5. Washington: Maybe
6. DJ James: Doubtful
7. Payton: Doubtful
8. Emerson: 50/50
9: Mingo or TJ Jones
10: Plumlee
11: Colin Duncan
12: Ealy-sure, why not

the_real_MSU_is_us
12-19-2018, 10:29 PM
Yeah Ari brings the best info and is the most willing to share. That said, he always leans too optimistic so adjust your expectations accordingly

HoopsDawg
12-19-2018, 10:37 PM
Yeah Ari brings the best info and is the most willing to share. That said, he always leans too optimistic so adjust your expectations accordingly

nothing against Ari, when it comes to recruiting no one knows anything. Paul and Steve and everyone thought we would sign 80% of the class.

BuckyIsAB****
12-19-2018, 11:15 PM
For yall that do recruiting rankings, specifically ESPN rankings we are at 13

Ari Gold
12-19-2018, 11:20 PM
Damn reading this thread one would think we are somewhere around 35 or 40 ranking right now.

When it comes to the 80% signing. Yes I said it because it was told to me by a coach on the staff

We have 7 ESPN top 300 Players signed or commited right now .. Thats strong for us

The biggest kick in the nuts today was DJ James not signing. But everyone knew if Aub or Bama got serious about him things would get dicey.

With Brooks he has been back and forth now with Arky for 3 months not a huge surprise

With Hall I have heard more negative things about him than positive. Saying that yes we would have loved to get him, but here is a prediction by me bookmark it . Purvis will have a better college career than Hall at LB if they both end up there

Mingo and Young still available and the door isn’t closed there . Let’s see what happens next few weeks
And some other names will come up .

So yes today could have been better but at least we aren’t OM. Talk about getting pissed and shit on ..

Commercecomet24
12-19-2018, 11:34 PM
Damn reading this thread one would think we are somewhere around 35 or 40 ranking right now.

When it comes to the 80% signing. Yes I said it because it was told to me by a coach on the staff

We have 7 ESPN top 300 Players signed or commited right now .. Thats strong for us

The biggest kick in the nuts today was DJ James not signing. But everyone knew if Aub or Bama got serious about him things would get dicey.

With Brooks he has been back and forth now with Arky for 3 months not a huge surprise

With Hall I have heard more negative things about him than positive. Saying that yes we would have loved to get him, but here is a prediction by me bookmark it . Purvis will have a better college career than Hall at LB if they both end up there

Mingo and Young still available and the door isn’t closed there . Let’s see what happens next few weeks
And some other names will come up .

So yes today could have been better but at least we aren’t OM. Talk about getting pissed and shit on ..

Appreciate your info.

Madisonmd
12-20-2018, 07:23 AM
Don't be surprised if Moore ends up elsewhere (issues!)

KOdawg1
12-20-2018, 07:47 AM
Don't be surprised if Moore ends up elsewhere (issues!)
Don't read into what he posts on Twitter. He likes the attention and is going to enjoy the process all the way.

StateDawg44
12-20-2018, 08:37 AM
The people who are blasting Ari because of what he said about 80% and thought it was guaranteed should only blame themselves for duping themselves. And that is in no way a knock on Ari. I appreciate any leads and info. he gives along with IYOK's. But there is no way for them to know what all is going on with these kids. All they know is what they have been told and share. Thanks for all of the info guys.

Those that are complaining about not getting 80% need to chill out and just think for yourself and consider how many variables are at play here. Nothing is concrete until there is a signature on a dotted line. And even then, things could still change. Just enjoy one of the better classes we've had so far. At least the staff got those in the boat yesterday and can focus more of their attention on who else we need and can finish strong. There is plenty to celebrate.

Doggie_Style
12-20-2018, 09:30 AM
Damn reading this thread one would think we are somewhere around 35 or 40 ranking right now.

When it comes to the 80% signing. Yes I said it because it was told to me by a coach on the staff ..

I don't think anyone on our staff saw this coming and that is a bit concerning to me. We landed 61% of our commits, the lowest % of any SEC team. We want to sign 25 so we have 11 spots to fill in 48 days.....that's a mountain to climb. We will have two of our elite commits taking visits to elite programs and three others doing the same thing. We all expected Joe and company to close the deal and they came up a little short. I do think some changes need to be made to address this and I believe Joe will make them. If we had the signatures of Pickering, Moore, Washington and Emerson these next 48 days would be more productive. And yes Ari, I got blasted for saying we would land 17-20 on signing day.