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msbulldog
08-10-2018, 12:15 PM
They played pearl in 2012 and beat them. Don't think the big public schools would ever schedule them tbh; i'm sure prep has wanted to schedule games with them though. 5a and 6a schools have nothing to gain from playing Prep - if they win, they're supposed to. If they lose, it's an embarrassment.
Prep plays Forest this year. Would love to go watch that game and see how Diwun Black plays against the academy level talent.
Kind of like us playing USM.
sandwolf
08-10-2018, 02:13 PM
Why doesnt Prep play a 5A or 6A team if they are so good
The whole 'Even the best academies could never compete with public schools!' narrative has been dead for a while now.
Turfdawg67
08-10-2018, 02:55 PM
And there goes the recruiting thread again...
TrapGame
08-10-2018, 02:58 PM
You mean like Pearl, Oxford, and New Hope?
Yep, Pearl has beat the dog shit out of Prep more than once.
preachermatt83
08-10-2018, 05:34 PM
Forest started back to school Tuesday... black showed up for the first time today. Why anybody thinks this kid is even going to graduate much less play football in college is beyond me.
preachermatt83
08-10-2018, 05:35 PM
Co-sign
Wait! What?
FriarsPoint
08-10-2018, 08:03 PM
And there goes the recruiting thread again...
Flashing red lights. Sirens. Rotating sky lights.
I don?t give a f about prep or any other academy bs that doesn?t pertain to recruiting in THIS thread.
Dawg-gone-dawgs
08-10-2018, 10:27 PM
And there goes the recruiting thread again...
it's almost like non recruiting things should have their own topic...seems like an interesting concept.
Cooterpoot
08-11-2018, 12:10 AM
There?s🥫🍗
Todd4State
08-11-2018, 01:56 AM
Yep, Pearl has beat the dog shit out of Prep more than once.
Prep has beaten them a couple of times as well. Including 51-0 once or something like that.
Todd4State
08-11-2018, 01:57 AM
Which prep school does Ricky Black coach? Tupelo's finest
Jackson Prep
Todd4State
08-11-2018, 01:59 AM
The whole 'Even the best academies could never compete with public schools!' narrative has been dead for a while now.
Thank goodness. It was absolutely ridiculous given the amount of quality college football players that the private schools have produced over the years.
BuckyIsAB****
08-11-2018, 01:11 PM
You mean like Pearl, Oxford, and New Hope?
They played Pearl YEARS ago and I dont remember them playing oxford. New Hope isnt very good.
If they played any other team in the metro (Brandon, Pearl, Madison, Clinton, Northwest) they get beat. Handily
Todd4State
08-11-2018, 02:04 PM
They played Pearl YEARS ago and I dont remember them playing oxford. New Hope isnt very good.
If they played any other team in the metro (Brandon, Pearl, Madison, Clinton, Northwest) they get beat. Handily
They played Oxford when DK Metcalf was there and they played and beat Pearl when Ryan Buchanan was their QB. New Hope may not be that good but they are a 5A school.
BuckyIsAB****
08-11-2018, 04:02 PM
They played Oxford when DK Metcalf was there and they played and beat Pearl when Ryan Buchanan was their QB. New Hope may not be that good but they are a 5A school.
Pearl was awful and Oxford beat them I think. Like I said, they wont play Brandon, Madison, Clinton, or NWR. Or Pearl now for that matter. They want no part of it
They played Pearl when they were terrible and drummed them. MAIS has fallen off hard since JA went down
Cooterpoot
08-11-2018, 09:14 PM
I think it’s time to STHU and move this shit somewhere else.
the_real_MSU_is_us
08-12-2018, 10:53 AM
Wait! What?
IYOK is saying he "co-signs" the idea Jarian Jones will play WR for us. He's saying WR recruiting isn't going good so JJ will be needed there.
Forest started back to school Tuesday... black showed up for the first time today. Why anybody thinks this kid is even going to graduate much less play football in college is beyond me.
Gosh I hate it for that kid. After hearing about his friend I just wish he could get it together for his own sake, but it's tough for kids in terrible situations with no role models to blaze their own trail. Thus the cycle of poverty continues... Diwun seems like a good kid at heart so I think he can have a good life if he finds any motivation to try.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-12-2018, 11:19 AM
IYOK is saying he "co-signs" the idea Jarian Jones will play WR for us. He's saying WR recruiting isn't going good so JJ will be needed there.
Gosh I hate it for that kid. After hearing about his friend I just wish he could get it together for his own sake, but it's tough for kids in terrible situations with no role models to blaze their own trail. Thus the cycle of poverty continues... Diwun seems like a good kid at heart so I think he can have a good life if he finds any motivation to try.
I didn't say WR recruiting wasn't going well & that's why he will play WR. I'm saying that because I think he's a better WR than Safety. Depending on how the young WR go this year he may be needed more in the secondary but he's an All SEC talent on either side I just think he's further along at WR.
BuckyIsAB****
08-12-2018, 11:57 AM
For what its worth Jones and Mingo were the best 2 WRs I saw this summer
the_real_MSU_is_us
08-12-2018, 01:23 PM
I didn't say WR recruiting wasn't going well & that's why he will play WR. I'm saying that because I think he's a better WR than Safety. Depending on how the young WR go this year he may be needed more in the secondary but he's an All SEC talent on either side I just think he's further along at WR.
Correct, but I was reading between the lines; if Mingo and Jackson (who we absolutely want) were solidly committed, then JJ would stay on D. It's only recently (after it was clear we'd likely miss on the top targets) I've seen you guys talk about him at receiver. I' not denying JJ is a stud on either side of the ball though, just that if things were going better in recruiting he'd probably be a safety here
preachermatt83
08-12-2018, 01:42 PM
IYOK is saying he "co-signs" the idea Jarian Jones will play WR for us. He's saying WR recruiting isn't going good so JJ will be needed there.
Gosh I hate it for that kid. After hearing about his friend I just wish he could get it together for his own sake, but it's tough for kids in terrible situations with no role models to blaze their own trail. Thus the cycle of poverty continues... Diwun seems like a good kid at heart so I think he can have a good life if he finds any motivation to try.
Did you see the screenshots of blacks FB post he quickly deleted?
msstate7
08-12-2018, 01:47 PM
Did you see the screenshots of blacks FB post he quickly deleted?
What'd they say?
preachermatt83
08-12-2018, 08:14 PM
What'd they say?
not Gonna post it on here. Too vulgar.
Doggie_Style
08-12-2018, 08:22 PM
not Gonna post it on here. Too vulgar.
c?mon man...either post a general summary of what he posted, without the vulgarity if youneed to, or just don?t post anything
ScoobaDawg
08-12-2018, 09:12 PM
Pearl was awful and Oxford beat them I think. Like I said, they wont play Brandon, Madison, Clinton, or NWR. Or Pearl now for that matter. They want no part of it
They played Pearl when they were terrible and drummed them. MAIS has fallen off hard since JA went down
Guy's come on... KEEP this thread Limited to Recruiting talking ONLY. I don't want to have to weed through and pull this cr*p out..
preachermatt83
08-12-2018, 09:47 PM
c?mon man...either post a general summary of what he posted, without the vulgarity if youneed to, or just don?t post anything
Good grief dude, you will see them eventually I'm sure.
Good grief dude, you will see them eventually I'm sure.
just post them man. damn
msu15
08-13-2018, 09:11 AM
not Gonna post it on here. Too vulgar.
Lol, good lord....
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-13-2018, 01:15 PM
Have any recruit names attending practice lately? Maybe Eric Gray?
Any recruits from Landry Walker to keep up with?
What was Paul's cryptic message on Twitter the other day? like he was waiting on a commitment to happen? kid from Little Rascals tapping his fingers deal. Hadad cryptically spells out Nakobe Dean (prob bullshitting Brandon Walker who replied to Paul)
Latest on Chris Tyree? Would love a class of 2020 update.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-13-2018, 01:24 PM
It's a dead period recruits can't visit practice.
No Landry Walker prospect this year.
That tweet was for Jaykwon Walton who has committed & de-committed.
We're in Tyree top 4. He's planning to come to a game this season.
somebodyshotmypaw
08-13-2018, 01:30 PM
What's the latest on OL Hubbard?
SouthMSDog
08-13-2018, 01:35 PM
What's the latest on OL Hubbard?
Us or UVA, he is committing on his birthday 9/1.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-13-2018, 01:36 PM
What's the latest on OL Hubbard?
Committing on September 1st his birthday.
ScoobaDawg
08-13-2018, 03:26 PM
Alright.. I deleted 3 messages that were off topic, didn't want to but people just wouldn't stay on topic and it wasn't relevant to anything.... so couldn't just dump it in a new thread.. though I might do that from now on if it continues.
But please stay on topic for this thread.
Lord McBuckethead
08-13-2018, 03:45 PM
Hubbard has to like what we have going on in the SEC versus UVA. Liking our shot here.
bulldawg28
08-13-2018, 03:45 PM
What's the latest on OL Hubbard?
Where is he from?
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-13-2018, 03:59 PM
Where is he from?
From PA (https://247sports.com/player/jaquay-hubbard-46048719)
bulldawg28
08-13-2018, 04:07 PM
From PA (https://247sports.com/player/jaquay-hubbard-46048719)
Thanks
msbulldog
08-13-2018, 05:58 PM
Where is he from?
https://247sports.com/player/jaquay-hubbard-46048719
Bothrops
08-13-2018, 11:23 PM
Virginia is less than half the distance for him, but I agree that as a football program today, MSU is on a different plain than UVA.
sandwolf
08-14-2018, 08:09 AM
Virginia is less than half the distance for him, but I agree that as a football program today, MSU is on a different plain than UVA.
Distance shouldn't be as much of a factor with him, since his parents are planning to move to wherever he goes to school.
Lord McBuckethead
08-14-2018, 09:38 AM
So, have any of the recruits been to any of our fall practices to see the MoorCoach in action?
If anything, having 5 former head coaches on staff being experts in their areas of coaching, dang that is exciting. No more GAs coaching wide receivers.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-14-2018, 09:46 AM
So, have any of the recruits been to any of our fall practices to see the MoorCoach in action?
If anything, having 5 former head coaches on staff being experts in their areas of coaching, dang that is exciting. No more GAs coaching wide receivers.
It's a dead period
msudawglb
08-14-2018, 02:14 PM
It's a dead period
I thought during a dead period that players could still contact coaches or visit on their own dime. I thought the dead period only pertained to the recruiters?
Ifyouonlyknew
08-14-2018, 03:40 PM
I thought during a dead period that players could still contact coaches or visit on their own dime. I thought the dead period only pertained to the recruiters?
There can be no face to face contact.
maroonmania
08-14-2018, 07:42 PM
There can be no face to face contact.
For coaches that is, apparently OM boosters can all the in person contact they want.
Lord McBuckethead
08-15-2018, 08:39 AM
There can be no face to face contact.
That is for the best. Lets the coaches coach without worrying about Prima Donna #X wanting attention at practice.
Lord McBuckethead
08-19-2018, 11:19 AM
On the recruiting front, you have to believe the cruits are seeing what JoMo is saying about the fall and what he is saying in their living rooms as a good sign. Moorhead is going to be in great position when we start beating folks, and I bet he doesn't squander that headway.
Todd4State
08-19-2018, 02:37 PM
On the recruiting front, you have to believe the cruits are seeing what JoMo is saying about the fall and what he is saying in their living rooms as a good sign. Moorhead is going to be in great position when we start beating folks, and I bet he doesn't squander that headway.
I think all Joe has to prove is that he can get the results on the field. Once that happens our recruiting will improve even more because then other schools can't use "they're a run heavy team" on us anymore.
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-20-2018, 08:27 AM
I may have missed it last week, but who is the latest off-the-field recruiting office hire?
Ifyouonlyknew
08-20-2018, 09:02 AM
I may have missed it last week, but who is the latest off-the-field recruiting office hire?
Brandon Tate. Played at Noxubee Co. He graduated in '04 signed & played at West Virginia. Has coached at West Virginia & Marshall & has been a HS coach up there last 7-8 years.
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-20-2018, 09:28 AM
I remember him well...saw him in our summer camps in HS and he was unstoppable in 7-on-7.
Hope he can share some of what makes that WVU offense tick. Glad to have him on board.
Lord McBuckethead
08-27-2018, 02:39 PM
Alright, anyone have any updates? Maybe just a quick reference to who in our commit list is showing out.
J Jones looked pretty good in his recent Hudl video. The question I have, is why are we not considering this guy for WR? It's like Marcus Murphy. Dude needs the ball in his hands.
jumbo
08-27-2018, 02:48 PM
Alright, anyone have any updates? Maybe just a quick reference to who in our commit list is showing out.
J Jones looked pretty good in his recent Hudl video. The question I have, is why are we not considering this guy for WR? It's like Marcus Murphy. Dude needs the ball in his hands.
We are
bulldawg28
08-27-2018, 04:58 PM
Any word on R. Thompkins Jr? Dude can flat out ball
Ifyouonlyknew
08-27-2018, 06:01 PM
Any word on R. Thompkins Jr? Dude can flat out ball
He hurt his knee again 1st game. No word yet on the severity but it was a non contact injury.
bulldawg28
08-27-2018, 07:30 PM
He hurt his knee again 1st game. No word yet on the severity but it was a non contact injury.
Thanks sir
Lord McBuckethead
08-27-2018, 08:17 PM
We are
Good. Looked very fluid out there running routes making catches.
BuckyIsAB****
08-27-2018, 09:38 PM
IYOK, are we still recruiting Plumlee or has he shut it down?
I figured we would stay on him till the end.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-27-2018, 10:22 PM
IYOK, are we still recruiting Plumlee or has he shut it down?
I figured we would stay on him till the end.
I'm sure we're still trying but I don't expect anything to come from it.
Cooterpoot
08-27-2018, 11:01 PM
The Plumlee ship has sailed.
Bdawg
08-27-2018, 11:04 PM
How bout Hubbard??? We in or out? Committing this weekend, right?
Cooterpoot
08-28-2018, 08:28 AM
How bout Hubbard??? We in or out? Committing this weekend, right?
State people believe we get him. VA people believe they're getting him. I've got a friend that works at VA and he says Hubbard has visited several times. I'm concerned because of that. Really, only the distance is the concern.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 08:48 AM
State people believe we get him. VA people believe they're getting him. I've got a friend that works at VA and he says Hubbard has visited several times. I'm concerned because of that. Really, only the distance is the concern.
I don't think he's visited several but I've heard a couple.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 09:33 AM
He hurt his knee again 1st game. No word yet on the severity but it was a non contact injury.
Update: He has a torn ACL
Irondawg
08-28-2018, 09:40 AM
Update: He has a torn ACL
Hate that for the kid. That's two ACL right? if so same knee or different knees?
Cooterpoot
08-28-2018, 10:46 AM
RB is an issue. We need to have our RBs put up big numbers but splitting time isn't ideal for recruiting a RB.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 11:29 AM
Hate that for the kid. That's two ACL right? if so same knee or different knees?
Different knees
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 11:30 AM
RB is an issue. We need to have our RBs put up big numbers but splitting time isn't ideal for recruiting a RB.
Huff isn't concerned about pulling a good RB this cycle. Until he gets worried I'm not going to worry either.
Doggie_Style
08-28-2018, 12:50 PM
Huff isn't concerned about pulling a good RB this cycle. Until he gets worried I'm not going to worry either.
That's a weak statement.....it's like saying yea we wiffed on Emery but ya know we really weren't trying that hard because we aren't concerned about our situation in 2020.....what????
Bothrops
08-28-2018, 01:08 PM
Any word on R. Thompkins Jr? Dude can flat out ball
He committed to Scott Frost and Nebraska. He gone.
Bothrops
08-28-2018, 01:15 PM
I thought we might be able to get back in the game with Gray. Michigan has a higher rated RB that's also committed. We have zero. Surely we can make some headway there, any thoughts?
Hambone
08-28-2018, 01:21 PM
I think Gray comes back around after the season starts and he sees what he can be a part of here. This season is going to open so many more doors that State has had a problem of opening before.
Irondawg
08-28-2018, 02:13 PM
That's a weak statement.....it's like saying yea we wiffed on Emery but ya know we really weren't trying that hard because we aren't concerned about our situation in 2020.....what????
I read it more like we would have loved to have had Emery and maybe a miracle still happens but they like what they have and have returning enough that finding another lead back isn't a MUST for this class. You always want to sign one with that potential, but there don't appear to be a ton of guys in Huff's style in our recruiting area. We'll sign a good back and still might get a great one, but there's no panic that it's do or die in this class.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 02:34 PM
That's a weak statement.....it's like saying yea we wiffed on Emery but ya know we really weren't trying that hard because we aren't concerned about our situation in 2020.....what????
Take it for what it's worth. You've made your stance on RB recruiting known many times. I'm telling you what I know if you don't agree that's fine.
Johnson85
08-28-2018, 03:00 PM
Take it for what it's worth. You've made your stance on RB recruiting known many times. I'm telling you what I know if you don't agree that's fine.
Who are our underclassmen RBs?
Next year presumably we'll have Hill and Gibson. And if we don't sign a RB this year, after that it will be Hill and a true freshman or JUCO? Or do we have Fr or RS FR RB that's just not in the four deep right now?
Bully13
08-28-2018, 03:04 PM
RB is an issue. We need to have our RBs put up big numbers but splitting time isn't ideal for recruiting a RB.
seem like every now and then Bamer will split RB time and both end up getting drafted. no?
SmokeyDawg
08-28-2018, 03:12 PM
Anything being heard about Hubbard? Commitment date on Saturday
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 03:21 PM
Who are our underclassmen RBs?
Next year presumably we'll have Hill and Gibson. And if we don't sign a RB this year, after that it will be Hill and a true freshman or JUCO? Or do we have Fr or RS FR RB that's just not in the four deep right now?
We will sign a RB this year. My whole point of the post was that Huff still felt good about the RB board. That's the reason you haven't seen us go out & offer a ton of new guys. To my knowledge we've offered 1 RB since Emery committed.
Johnson85
08-28-2018, 03:42 PM
We will sign a RB this year. My whole point of the post was that Huff still felt good about the RB board. That's the reason you haven't seen us go out & offer a ton of new guys. To my knowledge we've offered 1 RB since Emery committed.
Gotcha. Misunderstood and thought "not worried about pulling a good RB" meant not worried about signing a good RB this class as opposed to "not worried" because he's confident we will still pull a good RB.
Bothrops
08-28-2018, 04:01 PM
Anything being heard about Hubbard? Commitment date on Saturday
Probably UVA.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 04:16 PM
Probably UVA.
You heard something?
Cooterpoot
08-28-2018, 04:43 PM
seem like every now and then Bamer will split RB time and both end up getting drafted. no?
Bama doesn't have the same recruiting limitations we've got.
Bothrops
08-28-2018, 06:26 PM
You heard something?
Not a thing
maroonmania
08-28-2018, 07:13 PM
Probably UVA.
I'm not liking our chances either. Don't know anything other than usually when we are going to get a guy we KNOW we are going to get him.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 07:58 PM
I'm not liking our chances either. Don't know anything other than usually when we are going to get a guy we KNOW we are going to get him.
He's not telling either side before the announcement. Everyone will find out at the same time. With that being said I still feel pretty good.
somebodyshotmypaw
08-28-2018, 08:57 PM
Hubbard has been very consistent with his message. It's a final four of Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, and MSU. Most think it's clearly Virginia versus MSU. Virginia has proximity. I like our chances with the depth chart and the fact that it's the SEC. I think it's 60/40 MSU over Virginia.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 09:04 PM
Hubbard has been very consistent with his message. It's a final four of Pitt, Syracuse, Virginia, and MSU. Most think it's clearly Virginia versus MSU. Virginia has proximity. I like our chances with the depth chart and the fact that it's the SEC. I think it's 60/40 MSU over Virginia.
Virginia is closer but not really close. It's still over 6 hours away.
msstate7
08-28-2018, 09:15 PM
If we want Hubbard, then I want him. It is a little odd though that he has no big 10 offer in big 10 country
Bothrops
08-28-2018, 10:05 PM
I want Hubbard, Ike and that kid from St. Joseph. That would be ideal anyway.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-28-2018, 10:09 PM
I want Hubbard, Ike and that kid from St. Joseph. That would be ideal anyway.
Ike Hubbard & Sharp. Pass on the St. Joe kid no offense.
1bigdawg
08-28-2018, 11:58 PM
I want Ike and Sharp. I will be ok with or without Hubbard, even though we do need at least one more.
duncflydawg
08-29-2018, 06:39 AM
Man, Diwun Black is doing his best to copy Jarrian Jones on the twitter recruiting front. Even down to the very words of his tweets. I guess imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Dawg-gone-dawgs
08-29-2018, 10:37 AM
Man, Diwun Black is doing his best to copy Jarrian Jones on the twitter recruiting front. Even down to the very words of his tweets. I guess imitation is the highest form of flattery.
Diwun Black is an attention hog who is not very bright at all. Hell he told a buddy of mine a couple weeks ago that who knows he might end up back at Scott Central...Does he not know this is his last year? Where is he even at now. Forest,MS , Florida? I heard he didn't go to Florida for HS then I saw where he was going to Florida again for senior year....He is all over the place and if I was our coaching staff, I wouldn't waste my time on him. He is a great athlete but he aint a program changer.
bulldawg28
08-29-2018, 01:32 PM
He committed to Scott Frost and Nebraska. He gone.
It may depend if Nebraska sticks with him.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-29-2018, 02:38 PM
It may depend if Nebraska sticks with him.
I doubt we continue to persue & Frost has already said they're going to honor the scholarship.
bulldawg28
08-29-2018, 03:24 PM
I doubt we continue to persue & Frost has already said they're going to honor the scholarship.
Gotcha
somebodyshotmypaw
08-29-2018, 03:49 PM
Diwun Black is an attention hog who is not very bright at all. Hell he told a buddy of mine a couple weeks ago that who knows he might end up back at Scott Central...Does he not know this is his last year? Where is he even at now. Forest,MS , Florida? I heard he didn't go to Florida for HS then I saw where he was going to Florida again for senior year....He is all over the place and if I was our coaching staff, I wouldn't waste my time on him. He is a great athlete but he aint a program changer.
Diwun is at Forest. Word is that he might drop out after football season (christmas break), take his GED, and enroll in JUCO in January. This gets him started quickly in JUCO to expedite his Associates Degree so he can go to a big school with maybe 3 years of eligibility remaining.
Cooterpoot
08-29-2018, 04:41 PM
Diwun is at Forest. Word is that he might drop out after football season (christmas break), take his GED, and enroll in JUCO in January. This gets him started quickly in JUCO to expedite his Associates Degree so he can go to a big school with maybe 3 years of eligibility remaining.
He's not going to be able to have 3 years. Hell, he's not even going to pass in juco if he goes. Not sure he can pass a GED test. He's a cancerous player that we need to forget about.
Bothrops
08-29-2018, 05:39 PM
I thought Diwun moved to Florida, no?
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-30-2018, 07:56 AM
Diwun is at Forest. Word is that he might drop out after football season (christmas break), take his GED, and enroll in JUCO in January. This gets him started quickly in JUCO to expedite his Associates Degree so he can go to a big school with maybe 3 years of eligibility remaining.
Co-Lin has perfected this and it works. Several Callaway guys have done it. A lot of these guys just need a new environment even if it is still in Mississippi. I'm definitely not writing him off, bc he could get it figured out. Never give up on talent too early...give it some time. We'll be hearing about Back like we did with Ravian Pierce.
Cooterpoot
08-30-2018, 09:05 AM
Black will NEVER play a down of major college football. You can mark my post and bring it back up if I'm wrong. I won't be wrong.
sandwolf
08-30-2018, 09:15 AM
Random question, but do any of yall know what Noah Elliss' status is? Seems like the last thing I heard was that he was taking some online courses trying to get eligible or something like that. Do we expect him to ever make it to campus?
Ifyouonlyknew
08-30-2018, 09:16 AM
Random question, but do any of yall know what Noah Elliss' status is? Seems like the last thing I heard was that he was taking some online courses trying to get eligible or something like that. Do we expect him to ever make it to campus?
No
shrimp
08-30-2018, 09:50 AM
Where did Ladamien Webb end up enrolling?
Black will NEVER play a down of major college football. You can mark my post and bring it back up if I'm wrong. I won't be wrong.
Whyyyyy do you post things like this over someone we are recruiting. Why why why why
Cooterpoot
08-30-2018, 10:34 AM
Whyyyyy do you post things like this over someone we are recruiting. Why why why why
Because we aren't recruiting him anymore and we don't need him on our campus.
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-30-2018, 12:03 PM
Because we aren't recruiting him anymore and we don't need him on our campus.
That's just not true man. let it go
Cooterpoot
08-30-2018, 12:08 PM
That's just not true man. let it go
It's absolutely true. We haven't fooled with him in some time. And he's had every opportunity to correct his path and hasn't done it. Y'all wake me up when he actually shows up for juco or IMG or any other school for that matter.
Cary Hudson's little bro
08-30-2018, 01:04 PM
Nevermind dude...damn. You're clueless!
I'm curious about a visitor list for this weekend...Hoping the key uncommitted Mississippi guys will be here. Anyone know about Turnage, Dean, Hall, etc
Doggie_Style
08-30-2018, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=I'm curious about a visitor list for this weekend...Hoping the key uncommitted Mississippi guys will be here. Anyone know about Turnage, Dean, Hall, etc[/QUOTE]
I hear none of our top recruits can find a ride to Starkville***
Cooterpoot
08-30-2018, 01:41 PM
Nevermind dude...damn. You're clueless!
Somethings, yes. This, no. We haven't contacted him in some time. I'm sure he's probably contacted us, but he's not a priority for us anymore.
jumbo
08-30-2018, 02:14 PM
Nevermind dude...damn. You're clueless!
I'm curious about a visitor list for this weekend...Hoping the key uncommitted Mississippi guys will be here. Anyone know about Turnage, Dean, Hall, etc
Early expected names include Brandon Turnage, Jerrion Ealy and Maurice Hampton.
msu15
08-30-2018, 03:22 PM
Early expected names include Brandon Turnage, Jerrion Ealy and Maurice Hampton.
Excellent
Cooterpoot
08-31-2018, 10:33 AM
State people believe we get him. VA people believe they're getting him. I've got a friend that works at VA and he says Hubbard has visited several times. I'm concerned because of that. Really, only the distance is the concern.
Just prepare for it. Hubbard to UVA. Looks like the concern was real.
With Hubbard and Hall likely going elsewhere, we're finishing this cycle with a lot of questions. Missed on some big targets late.
Really need Ike now but that's probably going to be a tough pull if OK wants him. We're down to pretty much nobody at RB as Gary, Clark, and Connor are it right now (not counting Ealy because he's a top 5 MLB pick last update I got). We'll pull Sharp I believe. Not sure we won't go after a Juco RB now but I don't think we're there yet.
We need to kill it this season. That will open the door with a couple guys we're still on. IYOK knows more about the RBs than me.
michaelww3d6
08-31-2018, 10:41 AM
Excellent
IF you are going to type "Excellent" you have to use this.
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msu15
08-31-2018, 11:23 AM
IF you are going to type "Excellent" you have to use this.
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Haha yep that's my bad
Ifyouonlyknew
08-31-2018, 11:37 AM
Just prepare for it. Hubbard to UVA. Looks like the concern was real.
With Hubbard and Hall likely going elsewhere, we're finishing this cycle with a lot of questions. Missed on some big targets late.
Really need Ike now but that's probably going to be a tough pull if OK wants him. We're down to pretty much nobody at RB as Gary, Clark, and Connor are it right now (not counting Ealy because he's a top 5 MLB pick last update I got). We'll pull Sharp I believe. Not sure we won't go after a Juco RB now but I don't think we're there yet.
We need to kill it this season. That will open the door with a couple guys we're still on. IYOK knows more about the RBs than me.
Yea things don't look good with Hubbard. Richardson looks to be the beneficiary of that. We'll get Sharp & things are trending positively for Danielson Ike.
RB - I wouldn't put Tahj Gary in the same category as Conner or Clark. He has multiple P5 offers & his top 2 are Va Tech & South Carolina & he's a take for both. If MSU or Auburn offer they'd have a great shot at him. I just don't see Clark or Conner getting an offer. I can't speak for Huff or other committed RB but there's a reason we haven't offered more RB since Emery. I'm just not sure who they feel good with. Personally I'd offer & get Gary I think he's legit.
WR - I think we're all in on Mingo as far as HS guys. He's still been receptive to JoeMo & Getsy we just have to prove it on the field. I could see a juco offer or 2 go out. I think Jarrian ends up at WR unless we get Mingo & a Juco.
I also feel good about Ishmael Burdine. I'd take Fred Peters at Jones too but I'm not sure if we will or not.
Danielson Ike is the most important recruit left imo. Sign him & Sharp OL class has taken a step forward. Has to keep getting better but it's a good 1st step. Then sign a legit SEC RB.
1bigdawg
08-31-2018, 11:50 AM
IYOK: What about LBs?
Ifyouonlyknew
08-31-2018, 11:57 AM
IYOK: What about LBs?
They're not going to do anything until Hall & Dean decide. I think Zach Edwards ends up in this class. Kevon Glenn & Dylan Lawrence are on the board.
Cooterpoot
08-31-2018, 12:02 PM
Don't sleep on Dannis Jackson yet either. I'm telling you, he's not as solid at OM as some people believe. He's just got some things going on and if we put up better passing numbers this season, he's going to be calling. I'd take him and Mingo if I could pull them. I believe Peters is the backup plan for Burdine and Burdine is shaky. Traffic is going to clear about the end of Sept. I think.
Ifyouonlyknew
08-31-2018, 12:09 PM
Don't sleep on Dannis Jackson yet either. I'm telling you, he's not as solid at OM as some people believe. He's just got some things going on and if we put up better passing numbers this season, he's going to be calling. I'd take him and Mingo if I could pull them. I believe Peters is the backup plan for Burdine and Burdine is shaky. Traffic is going to clear about the end of Sept. I think.
We're doing well with Burdine. I'd take both Bc they're recruiting Burdine as a CB/Nickel & Peters is a Safety. I think a good passing year we get Mingo. I'll leave the Jackson positively to you for right now.
KOdawg1
08-31-2018, 12:31 PM
Good to see this thread is back to talking actual recruiting again.
For me, the biggest concern isn't filling out the rest of the class. I think we'll get that done (even though some will be disappointed.)
It's holding on to the ones we've already got. Specifically, on the DL since we're loaded there. You know Ole Miss is going to try their annual surprise flip on signing day. Wouldn't be surprised to see them try to flip De'monte Russell. We'll see.
1bigdawg
08-31-2018, 12:57 PM
They're not going to do anything until Hall & Dean decide. I think Zach Edwards ends up in this class. Kevon Glenn & Dylan Lawrence are on the board.
Did Dylan Lawrence attend camps this summer? He seems like a great athlete who may be under-rated. (Actually, he is unrated at the moment.)
jumbo
08-31-2018, 01:41 PM
Did Dylan Lawrence attend camps this summer? He seems like a great athlete who may be under-rated. (Actually, he is unrated at the moment.)
He came to top dawg but had to leave before workouts because he rode with McKinnley Jackson and his GF was in an accident and they left to go see her.
Ari Gold
08-31-2018, 03:13 PM
LB . Wouldn?t be surprising if Purvis ends up playing LB in college
Also last year we got Jett and Watson who I think are both going to be solid SEc lb
If we don?t land Dean or Hall, I also expect Edwards to be in the class , we might go with an out of state guy if he is a solid pick up but we won?t take a LB just to be taking one ..
Doggie_Style
09-01-2018, 12:15 PM
LB . Wouldn?t be surprising if Purvis ends up playing LB in college
Also last year we got Jett and Watson who I think are both going to be solid SEc lb
If we don?t land Dean or Hall, I also expect Edwards to be in the class , we might go with an out of state guy if he is a solid pick up but we won?t take a LB just to be taking one ..
I disgree...taking Edwards would be taking someone just to be taking one
Homedawg
09-01-2018, 12:58 PM
Don't sleep on Dannis Jackson yet either. I'm telling you, he's not as solid at OM as some people believe. He's just got some things going on and if we put up better passing numbers this season, he's going to be calling. I'd take him and Mingo if I could pull them. I believe Peters is the backup plan for Burdine and Burdine is shaky. Traffic is going to clear about the end of Sept. I think.
We might take Zach but if we do he's a leftover. We don't want him at present and he's not an sec guy. Period. And that's wo the baggage.
Sorry copied wrong post.
Homedawg
09-01-2018, 12:59 PM
I disgree...taking Edwards would be taking someone just to be taking one
This^^^^
KOdawg1
09-02-2018, 12:51 PM
Saw Ealy at the game last night
Hambone
09-02-2018, 01:53 PM
Did Hubbard announce yesterday?
ShotgunDawg
09-02-2018, 02:00 PM
Did Hubbard announce yesterday?
Yes. He chose to go to school rather than play football.
msstate7
09-02-2018, 03:03 PM
Yes. He chose to go to school rather than play football.
Do we blame hev for this too? Olinemen, for whatever reason, just don't seem to wanna play for miss state. Personally, I'm not too upset... how does an olineman in big 10 country get an sec offer but zero big 10 offers?
Doggie_Style
09-02-2018, 03:52 PM
Do we blame hev for this too? Olinemen, for whatever reason, just don't seem to wanna play for miss state. Personally, I'm not too upset... how does an olineman in big 10 country get an sec offer but zero big 10 offers?
We have hit a wall in recruiting....LB, RB postions are a mess. WR and OL recruiting are shakey. Hopefully we can hold onto our DL commits who are the only real positive in this class....I?ll head into my bunker now before the shelling starts***
Bully13
09-02-2018, 04:54 PM
Yes. He chose to go to school rather than play football.
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Bothrops
09-02-2018, 06:27 PM
??
What Shotgun means is football is playing second fiddle.
maroonmania
09-02-2018, 07:23 PM
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In general just mark it down, when we don't know a week or two ahead of an announcement that we are going to get someone, we aren't getting them.
Bully13
09-02-2018, 08:58 PM
What Shotgun means is football is playing second fiddle.
So he's putting a UV diploma over MSU. Fair enough. I guess he's gonna go to law school?
msbulldog
09-02-2018, 09:02 PM
Saw Ealy at the game last night
Great. need to take care of him!
Bothrops
09-02-2018, 10:55 PM
So he's putting a UV diploma over MSU. Fair enough. I guess he's gonna go to law school?
I think it was distance mostly.
BuckyIsAB****
09-02-2018, 11:00 PM
If I were yall I wouldnt get too excited about Ealy. If he flips, great but I doubt he ever plays college football.
Of course people said the same thing about JT Ginn so who knows. But if I had to bet I'd say he goes the baseball route
1bigdawg
09-02-2018, 11:06 PM
Do we blame hev for this too? Olinemen, for whatever reason, just don't seem to wanna play for miss state. Personally, I'm not too upset... how does an olineman in big 10 country get an sec offer but zero big 10 offers?
Someone, who once predicted a win in a bowl in Califonia indicated that "OL recruitiing has not changed." For what it is worth...
Cooterpoot
09-03-2018, 06:52 AM
If I were yall I wouldnt get too excited about Ealy. If he flips, great but I doubt he ever plays college football.
Of course people said the same thing about JT Ginn so who knows. But if I had to bet I'd say he goes the baseball route
This^^ Ealy is a top 5 pick right now and there won’t be sign-ability issues if he stays anywhere close to that.
Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-03-2018, 02:54 PM
If I were yall I wouldnt get too excited about Ealy. If he flips, great but I doubt he ever plays college football.
Of course people said the same thing about JT Ginn so who knows. But if I had to bet I'd say he goes the baseball route
Kylar Murray didn't seem to have a problem being a first round pick and playing college football.
Cooterpoot
09-03-2018, 04:17 PM
Kylar Murray didn't seem to have a problem being a first round pick and playing college football.
Murray was able to work that out with the team that drafted him. Ealy won’t have that option.
Hambone
09-03-2018, 04:23 PM
Murray was also drafted in the first round as a college student. Ealy will be a first rounder out of high school.
Bothrops
09-03-2018, 11:00 PM
Someone, who once predicted a win in a bowl in Califonia indicated that "OL recruitiing has not changed." For what it is worth...
Yeah, I don't agree with that yet. Mullen would not have commited Cunningham, and probably not Washington either.
Bothrops
09-03-2018, 11:11 PM
We need Gray for RB. We have to get him. He's a rolling start for Moorhead's offense. Michigan is still stuck in a rut of mediocrity and there's no real sign of them making it out. Get it done!
BigEasyDawg
09-04-2018, 08:59 AM
What about Stevie Ballard out of Central Hinds? I don't know much about him, just saw him on Chris brook's all capitol team. He has great size at 6'6'' 300. Committed to LA Tech. I know we have been fishing in deeper ponds but you never know with misssissippi back wood kids like this.
msbulldog
09-04-2018, 12:07 PM
What about Stevie Ballard out of Central Hinds? I don't know much about him, just saw him on Chris brook's all capitol team. He has great size at 6'6'' 300. Committed to LA Tech. I know we have been fishing in deeper ponds but you never know with misssissippi back wood kids like this.
2 Star, no offers.
Doggie_Style
09-04-2018, 12:33 PM
In Moorheads recent interview he noted priorities at the RB, OL and LB positions for 2019....he then goes on to say that we will sign between 18-25 in the class. We have 16 commits so if it's 18 we really don't address those key positions and our chances of landing 9 more quality players in the next 3.5 months seems slim
Todd4State
09-04-2018, 04:17 PM
In Moorheads recent interview he noted priorities at the RB, OL and LB positions for 2019....he then goes on to say that we will sign between 18-25 in the class. We have 16 commits so if it's 18 we really don't address those key positions and our chances of landing 9 more quality players in the next 3.5 months seems slim
Adding nine players to our class is a lot more likely than two more.
Todd4State
09-04-2018, 04:22 PM
What about Stevie Ballard out of Central Hinds? I don't know much about him, just saw him on Chris brook's all capitol team. He has great size at 6'6'' 300. Committed to LA Tech. I know we have been fishing in deeper ponds but you never know with misssissippi back wood kids like this.
I think this has been some of the issue with the o-line. We chase guys that are 3-5 star out of state guys that are more polished and I get why we do that. However, I would imagine it's somewhat rare to pull guys out of places like Virginia, Pennsylvania, and etc. And once those guys fall off of the board we need to go back to Mississippi and take a chance on projects or diamonds in the rough at that position group. See Elgton Jenkins. Sure some of them won't pan out. But some of them will. And then we have the JUCO's in Mississippi as a great fallback option to fill in for some of the misses with guys like Martinas Rankin.
msstate7
09-04-2018, 04:25 PM
In Moorheads recent interview he noted priorities at the RB, OL and LB positions for 2019....he then goes on to say that we will sign between 18-25 in the class. We have 16 commits so if it's 18 we really don't address those key positions and our chances of landing 9 more quality players in the next 3.5 months seems slim
If we only add 18, we gonna be way under 85 next season, right?
1bigdawg
09-04-2018, 04:52 PM
If we only add 18, we gonna be way under 85 next season, right?
Yup.
msstate7
09-04-2018, 05:10 PM
Yup.
This aside, if we sign less than 25 in one of the most talented, deep classes in miss history, it's a fail imo
Turfdawg67
09-04-2018, 05:30 PM
In Moorheads recent interview he noted priorities at the RB, OL and LB positions for 2019....he then goes on to say that we will sign between 18-25 in the class. We have 16 commits so if it's 18 we really don't address those key positions and our chances of landing 9 more quality players in the next 3.5 months seems slim
Geez dude, the same 100 ppl read this board every day! We know your dissatisfaction at the OL, RB & LB positions. I'm 100% positive that the coaching staff is dissatisfied with it too.
yjnkdawg
09-05-2018, 04:52 PM
This aside, if we sign less than 25 in one of the most talented, deep classes in miss history, it's a fail imo
If we sign less than 25 or whatever number is needed to meet the 85 requirement, then JoeMo has a very good and valid reason. However he is not going to sign somebody for the sake of signing somebody.
msstate7
09-05-2018, 04:59 PM
If we sign less than 25 or whatever number is needed to meet the 85 requirement, then JoeMo has a very good and valid reason. However he is not going to sign somebody for the sake of signing somebody.
I would rather sign a full class and "cut" some as needed than undersign leaving us below 85 next season.
msstate7
09-06-2018, 04:16 PM
Who are the guys we should be watching now? Need to get a little momentum going again.
Mullen and co pulled ahead of us... he's at 4-star avg per recruit now. This isn't surprising considering where he's at
Bothrops
09-06-2018, 05:39 PM
Who are the guys we should be watching now? Need to get a little momentum going again.
Mullen and co pulled ahead of us... he's at 4-star avg per recruit now. This isn't surprising considering where he's at
Yeah but they have Diwun's commitment, who is almost a 5* lol
maroonmania
09-06-2018, 07:56 PM
Who are the guys we should be watching now? Need to get a little momentum going again.
Mullen and co pulled ahead of us... he's at 4-star avg per recruit now. This isn't surprising considering where he's at
Not surprising given our recruiting has been at a total standstill for over 2 months now.
ShotgunDawg
09-06-2018, 09:59 PM
It's like this new staff is putting forth greater effort with a better process, but the results aren't there yet. It's odd
Cooterpoot
09-06-2018, 10:03 PM
Other than Ike and Burdine, not much to see. Couple RBs we don’t have much of a shot at. Praying to flip a guy. It’s pretty dead until the end of the month probably.
Bothrops
09-06-2018, 10:24 PM
Gotta flip Gray and get one other. Hopefully we can get a linebacker and a good DB. We will get Sharp, I feel pretty certain. We will also have to keep our class together after the season when the cash begins to flow more.
bulldawg28
09-06-2018, 10:25 PM
It's like this new staff is putting forth greater effort with a better process, but the results aren't there yet. It's odd
The results aren't there yet? Our entire class is results being there.
ShotgunDawg
09-06-2018, 10:26 PM
The results aren't there yet? Our entire class is results being there.
Stop it. Someone other than Baker & T Buck need to CONSISTENTLY start landing players. Those are two hold overs
Hopefully things pick up.
msbulldog
09-07-2018, 06:45 AM
Stop it. Someone other than Baker & T Buck need to CONSISTENTLY start landing players. Those are two hold overs
Hopefully things pick up.
Hud ain't doing too bad.
hacker
09-07-2018, 07:39 AM
Stop it. Someone other than Baker & T Buck need to CONSISTENTLY start landing players. Those are two hold overs
Hopefully things pick up.
https://i.imgur.com/7UxxPb6.png
hmmm
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 08:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7UxxPb6.png
hmmm
Who has Hud landed?
Not trying to down him, but often times it's difficult to know who should get the credit for a recruit. Does Hud get credit for Pickering? I'm sure Hud has done a great job on him, but that's Baker.
I give credit to position coaches for landing players at their position
I'm not saying that these guys are doing a bad job. By all indications they are doing a great job & the process & communication with recruits is at an all time high.
However, our better recruits, other than Schrader who had a previous relationship with Moorhead, is heavily weighted towards the hold over position coaches from Mullen's staff.
So my point remains, while the process of our recruiting appears to be better, the news guys haven't seen results yet.
hacker
09-07-2018, 08:30 AM
He's listed as the primary recruiter for Pickering, Moore, Jarrian Jones, and Purvis
msu15
09-07-2018, 08:33 AM
So my point remains, while the process of our recruiting appears to be better, the news guys haven't seen results yet.
It's literally in front of your face dude, good lord
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 08:40 AM
He's listed as the primary recruiter for Pickering, Moore, Jarrian Jones, and Purvis
Pickering & Moore are both Baker's recruits.
I'll give you Jones & Purvis, but I'm not totally sure how much Hud had to do with those.
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 08:41 AM
It's literally in front of your face dude, good lord
What is in front of my face?
You're happy with this recruiting class?
Not understanding your point
Cary Hudson's little bro
09-07-2018, 08:45 AM
Who has Hud landed?
LMGTFY - Hudspeth Recruits (https://247sports.com/Coach/Mark-Hudspeth-296)
And we all know that Pickering and Moore are really 5* recruits, but 247 needs to keep the blue bloods at the top of the croot rankings
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 08:54 AM
LMGTFY - Hudspeth Recruits (https://247sports.com/Coach/Mark-Hudspeth-296)
And we all know that Pickering and Moore are really 5* recruits, but 247 needs to keep the blue bloods at the top of the croot rankings
So you think Hud deserved credit for those two guys over Baker?
Let me ask this: Which of Hud or Baker leaving would make either Moore or Pickering more likely to decommit?
Again, I like the process & believe in this coaching staff, but I believe your expectations for them are entirely too low if you think they are getting good results right now. The state of Mississippi is on the cusp of losing more quality players to out of state schools than at any point since the 1990s, & you guys are OK with that. That's an unbelievable insult to our school & program IMO.
You don't have to be water carrier & you don't have to be negative. It's OK to be honest while giving credit & acknowledging reality.
Cooterpoot
09-07-2018, 09:11 AM
To say we haven’t recruited just isn’t true. Our approach is different and recruits need to see the offense. We aren’t simply signing up the easy guys to get to fill the spots. We’re still after other guys. If we play well in Sept, we'll have something to sell. Doesn’t mean we will get guys, but those low hanging fruit guys will still be available. People need to realize kids are recruited for years, not days or weeks. It’ll get better as long as we play well. That’s why we’re already pounding the next couple classes.
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 09:26 AM
To say we haven’t recruited just isn’t true. Our approach is different and recruits need to see the offense. We aren’t simply signing up the easy guys to get to fill the spots. We’re still after other guys. If we play well in Sept, we'll have something to sell. Doesn’t mean we will get guys, but those low hanging fruit guys will still be available. People need to realize kids are recruited for years, not days or weeks. It’ll get better as long as we play well. That’s why we’re already pounding the next couple classes.
I hope this is all true & I really want to believe you as well. Again, I believe in this process & this staff.
However, this is your opinion & not based on facts. The facts are that we are being outrecruited currently by a team on probation, have no quality LBs committed, OL recruiting is still struggling, & we are about to lose more instate quality players since the 1990s.
The effort isn't paying off yet. Hopefully it does soon.
Ari Gold
09-07-2018, 09:35 AM
The difference between they way CJM and CDM recruit is night and day .
This whole staff is involved with recruiting not just one particular position coach in a particular area
The whole staff is involved esp Moorhead himself
And yes HUD is very important to the recruiting in Mississippi
A good example of how different they are.
Jaquarius landrews didn’t even know who Coach Hev was never meet the guy when he committed to state and Hev supposedly had the territory that Co-Lin was in.
Believe what you want to believe, results will come eventually but this staff is far and above better recruiters than what was under DM .. with all the different factors that take place during recruiting lack of effort by this staff won’t be one of them
Also losing Coach Austin was a much bigger blow than most know. Dude was very good with kids and their parents. Lots of trust was built with these recruits and families with Coach Austin.
sscjr1
09-07-2018, 09:40 AM
Where the momentum died, in my opinion, was when we ?lost? John Emery. I know he was never committed, but most everyone was saying he was ours. Then he delayed his announcement and the writing was on the wall. Took the wind out of my sails. Then Dannis Jackson, etc.
StateDawg44
09-07-2018, 10:07 AM
None of those examples where you say momentum died were really that shocking though. I doubt any players backed their pledge because John Emery didn't pledge to MSU. I don't think we are close to being done with Dannis.
There is still a lot of time in the season. We will be standing out in the media soon enough and coaches can finally back up what they have been pitching to some of these recruits once they see it unfolding on the field.
Ifyouonlyknew
09-07-2018, 12:04 PM
If we want to be honest momentum hasn't died. The only difference between this summer & previous is that Mullen would've held Pickering, Brooks, Pruitt, & Emerson until Big Dawg camp & everyone would've been hype about the class. Even though the ranking would be exactly the same. There has rarely been much movement in recruiting in late summer/early season but Mullen would stack commits in late July to give the impression we ended the summer on a high note.
Another thing this staff doesn't just throw out a ton of useless offers so we don't have just a ready made list of "I know we like this kid because he has an offer" group to go by. When fans don't know the pecking order they get nervous & just assume we don't have any targets or we're down to the bottom of the barrel guys. With the last staff that would be true but this staff isn't just going to settle they'll continue to recruit guys who are actually SEC caliber players & not just take the easy route. Getting these kids to sign is the bottom line & what they'll be judged on but they're nowhere similar to the way the last staff recruited. Just remember just because you don't know who they're on doesn't mean they're not on a # of different guys.
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 12:22 PM
The difference between they way CJM and CDM recruit is night and day .
This whole staff is involved with recruiting not just one particular position coach in a particular area
The whole staff is involved esp Moorhead himself
And yes HUD is very important to the recruiting in Mississippi
A good example of how different they are.
Jaquarius landrews didn’t even know who Coach Hev was never meet the guy when he committed to state and Hev supposedly had the territory that Co-Lin was in.
Believe what you want to believe, results will come eventually but this staff is far and above better recruiters than what was under DM .. with all the different factors that take place during recruiting lack of effort by this staff won’t be one of them
Also losing Coach Austin was a much bigger blow than most know. Dude was very good with kids and their parents. Lots of trust was built with these recruits and families with Coach Austin.
Agree completely. Just waiting on results. That's all that matters.
sscjr1
09-07-2018, 12:37 PM
None of those examples where you say momentum died were really that shocking though. I doubt any players backed their pledge because John Emery didn't pledge to MSU. I don't think we are close to being done with Dannis.
There is still a lot of time in the season. We will be standing out in the media soon enough and coaches can finally back up what they have been pitching to some of these recruits once they see it unfolding on the field.
May not have been shocking, but almost everyone was saying don't worry about Emery, even after he changed his commitment date. I didn't say a word about other players backing off because he didn't commit, but you know other players notice. What has happened since then? We lost the top two instate WR to TSUN, one being a flip. How does that not equal momentum coming to a grinding halt?
Commercecomet24
09-07-2018, 01:31 PM
If we want to be honest momentum hasn't died. The only difference between this summer & previous is that Mullen would've held Pickering, Brooks, Pruitt, & Emerson until Big Dawg camp & everyone would've been hype about the class. Even though the ranking would be exactly the same. There has rarely been much movement in recruiting in late summer/early season but Mullen would stack commits in late July to give the impression we ended the summer on a high note.
Another thing this staff doesn't just throw out a ton of useless offers so we don't have just a ready made list of "I know we like this kid because he has an offer" group to go by. When fans don't know the pecking order they get nervous & just assume we don't have any targets or we're down to the bottom of the barrel guys. With the last staff that would be true but this staff isn't just going to settle they'll continue to recruit guys who are actually SEC caliber players & not just take the easy route. Getting these kids to sign is the bottom line & what they'll be judged on but they're nowhere similar to the way the last staff recruited. Just remember just because you don't know who they're on doesn't mean they're not on a # of different guys.
Yes, Yes and Yes! Best post in the recruiting thread in a long time.
Cooterpoot
09-07-2018, 04:52 PM
I hope this is all true & I really want to believe you as well. Again, I believe in this process & this staff.
However, this is your opinion & not based on facts. The facts are that we are being outrecruited currently by a team on probation, have no quality LBs committed, OL recruiting is still struggling, & we are about to lose more instate quality players since the 1990s.
The effort isn't paying off yet. Hopefully it does soon.
The fact is, this is still MSU, and we’ve got a new staff. We need a LB, DB, OL, & RB. Most kids committed weren’t recruited by this staff but the last 8 months. Most of the rest of the league is established staffs. We’ve done nothing from a success perspective to think we’re going to sign a bunch of 5 stars. And this is still MS where a lot of kids just want out.
Stop acting like we’re some incredible program that everybody wants to play for. We’re not that program yet.
ShotgunDawg
09-07-2018, 05:48 PM
The fact is, this is still MSU, and we’ve got a new staff. We need a LB, DB, OL, & RB. Most kids committed weren’t recruited by this staff but the last 8 months. Most of the rest of the league is established staffs. We’ve done nothing from a success perspective to think we’re going to sign a bunch of 5 stars. And this is still MS where a lot of kids just want out.
Stop acting like we’re some incredible program that everybody wants to play for. We’re not that program yet.
Thank 17ing God you don't recruit for MSU.
Lower your expectations and expect less from people all you want. I will not
msbulldog
09-08-2018, 08:35 AM
Who has Hud landed?
Not trying to down him, but often times it's difficult to know who should get the credit for a recruit. Does Hud get credit for Pickering? I'm sure Hud has done a great job on him, but that's Baker.
I give credit to position coaches for landing players at their position
I'm not saying that these guys are doing a bad job. By all indications they are doing a great job & the process & communication with recruits is at an all time high.
However, our better recruits, other than Schrader who had a previous relationship with Moorhead, is heavily weighted towards the hold over position coaches from Mullen's staff.
So my point remains, while the process of our recruiting appears to be better, the news guys haven't seen results yet.
Hud is given credit for:
Pickering
Spivey
Moore
J. Jones
J. Purvis
Hud may have been part of a team on signing these guys. Like Moore who originally signed by the Mullin group but obviously he had a lot to do with their signing to be given that credit.
msbulldog
09-08-2018, 08:38 AM
Pickering & Moore are both Baker's recruits.
I'll give you Jones & Purvis, but I'm not totally sure how much Hud had to do with those.
He saved Moore for us, their both from Louisville!
msstate7
09-09-2018, 07:47 AM
No idea if the emery ship has sailed, but if not, surely we helped our cause yesterday. If he signed here, he'd back up Kylin 1 season, and be the man for 2 rather than split carries every year at Georgia
ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 08:38 AM
No idea if the emery ship has sailed, but if not, surely we helped our cause yesterday. If he signed here, he'd back up Kylin 1 season, and be the man for 2 rather than split carries every year at Georgia
Who knows. It's difficult to say because no one is sure why we went from leading by a mile to locked out in a few weeks.
I don't think winning has anything to do with it. Feels like another variable is involved.
The one that is more baffling to me is Charles Cross. That guy is signing up to play for a lame duck coach. We've got to be able to win those recruiting battles.
msstate7
09-09-2018, 08:41 AM
Who knows. It's difficult to say because no one is sure why we went from leading by a mile to locked out in a few weeks.
I don't think winning has anything to do with it. Feels like another variable is involved.
The one that is more baffling to me is Charles Cross. That guy is signing up to play for a lame duck coach. We've got to be able to win those recruiting battles.
It wasn't the winning I thought that might have tilted the scales... it was showcasing Kylin.
ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 08:43 AM
It wasn't the winning I thought that might have tilted the scales... it was showcasing Kylin.
Not sure that has anything to do with it either.
msstate7
09-09-2018, 08:46 AM
Not sure that has anything to do with it either.
Before emery committed to being a career split carry guy in college, he said he wanted to be showcased... the guy
ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 08:47 AM
Before emery committed to being a career split carry guy in college, he said he wanted to be showcased... the guy
That was before.....
msstate7
09-09-2018, 08:47 AM
I still think emery ends up at LSU though
Cowbell
09-09-2018, 11:04 AM
I still think emery ends up at LSU though
I have to agree with you on this. They need him and he knows it. Almost like he is negotiating.
Ifyouonlyknew
09-09-2018, 11:09 AM
I have to agree with you on this. They need him and he knows it. Almost like he is negotiating.
They're going to sign 2 Top 10 RB (Tyrion Davis & Noah Cain). They don't really need him as crazy as that sounds.
Bully13
09-09-2018, 11:19 AM
May not have been shocking, but almost everyone was saying don't worry about Emery, even after he changed his commitment date. I didn't say a word about other players backing off because he didn't commit, but you know other players notice. What has happened since then? We lost the top two instate WR to TSUN, one being a flip. How does that not equal momentum coming to a grinding halt?
Post less, read Ari and IYOK more. If you start to do more than read, i.e. LISTEN then start to post more.
Doggie_Style
09-09-2018, 11:36 AM
Who knows. It's difficult to say because no one is sure why we went from leading by a mile to locked out in a few weeks.
I don't think winning has anything to do with it. Feels like another variable is involved.
The one that is more baffling to me is Charles Cross. That guy is signing up to play for a lame duck coach. We've got to be able to win those recruiting battles.
Someone convinced Emery our OL recruiting was going to suck and to date it hasn?t been great... in his own words his top criteria was the strength of the OL....if Moorhead can pull a rabbit out of the hat soon with the OL then we should have a shot at a good back
Cowbell
09-09-2018, 11:44 AM
They're going to sign 2 Top 10 RB (Tyrion Davis & Noah Cain). They don't really need him as crazy as that sounds.
Great point - excuse my ignorance.
ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 11:45 AM
Someone convinced Emery our OL recruiting was going to suck and to date it hasn?t been great... in his own words his top criteria was the strength of the OL....if Moorhead can pull a rabbit out of the hat soon with the OL then we should have a shot at a good back
I think Kirby has other ways of convincing
sscjr1
09-09-2018, 12:51 PM
Post less, read Ari and IYOK more. If you start to do more than read, i.e. LISTEN then start to post more.
I?ll post my opinion all I like. BTW, it was Ari and IYOK saying not to worry about Emery. That?s what made it so shocking to me
Bully13
09-09-2018, 01:55 PM
I?ll post my opinion all I like. BTW, it was Ari and IYOK saying not to worry about Emery. That?s what made it so shocking to me
Shit happens. Don't automatically assume we've lost momentum due to losing a RB to UGA.
sscjr1
09-09-2018, 02:56 PM
Shit happens. Don't automatically assume we've lost momentum due to losing a RB to UGA.
Ok buddy
Bully13
09-09-2018, 03:09 PM
Ok buddy
no prob. I'm just pumped due to yesterday. I should not have been a dick saying post less.
Bothrops
09-09-2018, 06:04 PM
We need to get Gray. Emery gone forever.
ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 07:06 PM
We need to get Gray. Emery gone forever.
Most odd, no information, no coverage recruiting story I think I've ever observed. Extremely disappointed in our side not covering what happened.
We literally went from a 5 star RB about to commit to not even being in the picture within a week, and not damn MSU source covers and talks about what happened. Extremely odd.
msstate7
09-09-2018, 07:09 PM
Most odd, no information, no coverage recruiting story I think I've ever observed. Extremely disappointed in our side not covering what happened.
We literally went from a 5 star RB about to commit to not even being in the picture within a week, and not damn MSU source covers and talks about what happened. Extremely odd.
Why would they wanna rehash how dumb they were for pretty much calling it a done deal?
ShotgunDawg
09-09-2018, 07:11 PM
Why would they wanna rehash how dumb they were for pretty much calling it a done deal?
You may be right. Maybe they are so embarrassed by terrible reporting that they just want everyone to forget it. Extremely odd
Bass Chaser
09-09-2018, 07:55 PM
I wonder how much reliable info they really have with it being a new staff.
Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-09-2018, 08:55 PM
You may be right. Maybe they are so embarrassed by terrible reporting that they just want everyone to forget it. Extremely odd
Maybe it's because in recruiting it is all just a guessing game. Even the ones who "claim to be in the know" really don't know shit. It's more a guess and hope they are right type thing. If they are wrong they always have the
"Well that's recruiting, kids change their mind" as an cover.
1bigdawg
09-10-2018, 01:09 PM
Why would they wanna rehash how dumb they were for pretty much calling it a done deal?
Maybe what they heard might reflect negatively on the situation and they don't want to repeat on the off chance that it would hurt our ability to get back into the game.
Ari Gold
09-10-2018, 06:08 PM
Some of you need to just read and not post on the recruiting thread...
msbulldog
09-10-2018, 06:12 PM
Aw c'mon Ari, we all like talking with you!
somebodyshotmypaw
09-10-2018, 09:50 PM
The thing is that situations are actually fluid. Hell, Ari is one of the best on the recruiting thread and he has been wrong more times than I can count. Or is he really wrong? Often times he is right but the kids really do change their mind. These kids are 17 and many don't know what the hell they want to do. It's a rollercoaster. And people like Ari and IYOK report what they know and I appreciate it. But nobody bats 1.000 when it come to recruiting, because these kids throw curveballs and changeups like you wouldn't believe. Nothing surprises me in recruiting. Nothing. So people with knowledge of the situation can give you accurate info, but that same info be obsolete and wrong the next day because the kid woke up in the morning with a different team on his mind. I watch from a distance most of the time.
Commercecomet24
09-10-2018, 10:33 PM
The thing is that situations are actually fluid. Hell, Ari is one of the best on the recruiting thread and he has been wrong more times than I can count. Or is he really wrong? Often times he is right but the kids really do change their mind. These kids are 17 and many don't know what the hell they want to do. It's a rollercoaster. And people like Ari and IYOK report what they know and I appreciate it. But nobody bats 1.000 when it come to recruiting, because these kids throw curveballs and changeups like you wouldn't believe. Nothing surprises me in recruiting. Nothing. So people with knowledge of the situation can give you accurate info, but that same info be obsolete and wrong the next day because the kid woke up in the morning with a different team on his mind. I watch from a distance most of the time.
Wow someone who actually understands! This is dead on accurate assessment! I have 3 teenagers and they change their minds on anything and everything from minute to minute. If anyone has/had teenagers you should understand how wishy washy they are.
Bully13
09-11-2018, 07:51 AM
Wow someone who actually understands! This is dead on accurate assessment! I have 3 teenagers and they change their minds on anything and everything from minute to minute. If anyone has/had teenagers you should understand how wishy washy they are.
I have a 14 year old son and will vouch for this.
Doggie_Style
09-11-2018, 08:47 AM
Some of you need to just read and not post on the recruiting thread...
Worst post of the year.....smh
the_real_MSU_is_us
09-11-2018, 11:27 AM
Some of you need to just read and not post on the recruiting thread...
Come on Ari, they're staying OT and theorizing why our reporting was so bad on Emery. If they can't have that discussion we might as well call it the "Ari and IYOK talk recruiting if they feel like it" thread and ban everyone else. i like you but these guys weren't melting or giving hot takes or discussing pie vs cake, and unless you want to fill us in on what happened with Emery let them discuss it
louisvilledawg
09-11-2018, 11:28 AM
He saved Moore for us, their both from Louisville!
I saved Moore for us. Peep the name brah.
Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-11-2018, 11:40 AM
The thing is that situations are actually fluid. Hell, Ari is one of the best on the recruiting thread and he has been wrong more times than I can count. Or is he really wrong? Often times he is right but the kids really do change their mind. These kids are 17 and many don't know what the hell they want to do. It's a rollercoaster. And people like Ari and IYOK report what they know and I appreciate it. But nobody bats 1.000 when it come to recruiting, because these kids throw curveballs and changeups like you wouldn't believe. Nothing surprises me in recruiting. Nothing. So people with knowledge of the situation can give you accurate info, but that same info be obsolete and wrong the next day because the kid woke up in the morning with a different team on his mind. I watch from a distance most of the time.
Hahaha...You literally just proved the point I was making..Thanks
Maybe it's because in recruiting it is all just a guessing game. Even the ones who "claim to be in the know" really don't know shit. It's more a guess and hope they are right type thing. If they are wrong they always have the
"Well that's recruiting, kids change their mind" as an cover.
ShotgunDawg
09-11-2018, 11:40 AM
Come on Ari, they're staying OT and theorizing why our reporting was so bad on Emery. If they can't have that discussion we might as well call it the "Ari and IYOK talk recruiting if they feel like it" thread and ban everyone else. i like you but these guys weren't melting or giving hot takes or discussing pie vs cake, and unless you want to fill us in on what happened with Emery let them discuss it
This. I like Ari as well.
However, when you are in a situation of having inside knowledge, it's easy to forget the perception that the general public has.
I don't see how anyone can blame an MSU fan, with no inside knowledge, for questioning the entire Emery situation & how everyone could be so confident & it change on a dime. It's an elephant in the room that no one wants to address
Homedawg
09-11-2018, 03:00 PM
Maybe it's because in recruiting it is all just a guessing game. Even the ones who "claim to be in the know" really don't know shit. It's more a guess and hope they are right type thing. If they are wrong they always have the
"Well that's recruiting, kids change their mind" as an cover.
Or maybe. Just maybe it was because emery had told our staff he was coming?? Ever thought of that.
Ari Gold
09-11-2018, 04:21 PM
Or maybe. Just maybe it was because emery had told our staff he was coming?? Ever thought of that.
Exacalty.. a lot of “factors” lead to Emery not being a MSU committ right now. If some don’t understand that then they just don’t understand what goes on in the recruitment of some kids.
ShotgunDawg
09-11-2018, 04:33 PM
Exacalty.. a lot of “factors” lead to Emery not being a MSU committ right now. If some don’t understand that then they just don’t understand what goes on in the recruitment of some kids.
So why isn't anyone calling UGA out?
Are we just taking it?
What can be done?
Do we still have a chance?
I didn't question the reporting that we led for him, but the fact that we went from leading & him saying he was going to come, to us being out of the picture within a week & barely anyone explains why is absurd.
Please don't be angry with me or others on this board. Not trying to be contentious, it just seems like a crazy story that was swept under the rug
StateDawg44
09-11-2018, 08:34 PM
So why isn't anyone calling UGA out?
Are we just taking it?
What can be done?
Do we still have a chance?
I didn't question the reporting that we led for him, but the fact that we went from leading & him saying he was going to come, to us being out of the picture within a week & barely anyone explains why is absurd.
Please don't be angry with me or others on this board. Not trying to be contentious, it just seems like a crazy story that was swept under the rug
What is the "crazy story" you are talking about? What is UGA supposed to be getting called out for?
Is "They are cheating!!" the new go to for you now if an elite school beats us for a very highly touted recruit? We were/are very fortunate to be in the running and even in his top 5. It's really not that hard to see what may be more desirable for any recruit to attend what one would expect to be guaranteed playoff contender.
Anyone who buys 100% in on what any of these 17 y.o. recruits are saying one day and expect that to be in stone the next are only fooling yourselves. It's just the way it is. Some kids have a hard time telling these coaches something they think may disappoint the coach I would think. Not that hard to imagine.
ShotgunDawg
09-11-2018, 10:26 PM
What is the "crazy story" you are talking about? What is UGA supposed to be getting called out for?
Is "They are cheating!!" the new go to for you now if an elite school beats us for a very highly touted recruit? We were/are very fortunate to be in the running and even in his top 5. It's really not that hard to see what may be more desirable for any recruit to attend what one would expect to be guaranteed playoff contender.
Anyone who buys 100% in on what any of these 17 y.o. recruits are saying one day and expect that to be in stone the next are only fooling yourselves. It's just the way it is. Some kids have a hard time telling these coaches something they think may disappoint the coach I would think. Not that hard to imagine.
Thanks for the lecture. I was asking Ari not you
the_real_MSU_is_us
09-12-2018, 07:20 AM
What is the "crazy story" you are talking about? What is UGA supposed to be getting called out for?
Is "They are cheating!!" the new go to for you now if an elite school beats us for a very highly touted recruit? We were/are very fortunate to be in the running and even in his top 5. It's really not that hard to see what may be more desirable for any recruit to attend what one would expect to be guaranteed playoff contender.
Anyone who buys 100% in on what any of these 17 y.o. recruits are saying one day and expect that to be in stone the next are only fooling yourselves. It's just the way it is. Some kids have a hard time telling these coaches something they think may disappoint the coach I would think. Not that hard to imagine.
Cheating is what Ari was implying. Unless you have a different interpretation for what "factors" is. Either way you need to work on your reading comprehension if you think SD pulled cheating out of nowhere, and I think half his takes are dumb
msstate7
09-12-2018, 08:06 AM
Let's see... a Louisiana kid that's a 5-star picks Georgia over state. How many OOS 5-stars have we got, ever? How many has Georgia got in the last 2 years? This is just a sour grapes arguement to me. We got beat by a much better recruiting staff at a much better program. Thus is life...
ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 08:23 AM
Let's see... a Louisiana kid that's a 5-star picks Georgia over state. How many OOS 5-stars have we got, ever? How many has Georgia got in the last 2 years? This is just a sour grapes arguement to me. We got beat by a much better recruiting staff at a much better program. Thus is life...
I really wish MSU fans wouldn't make posts like this. Its really degrading to the program.
Just curious, are you going to make this statement every time we go from leading for a good player to losing him within a week to a blue blood?
If not, why?
msstate7
09-12-2018, 09:47 AM
I really wish MSU fans wouldn't make posts like this. Its really degrading to the program.
Just curious, are you going to make this statement every time we go from leading for a good player to losing him within a week to a blue blood?
If not, why?
Dude, I really wish we were a blue blood. I really do, but we aren't. If you wanna beat out blue bloods for OOS 5-stars, better come off the wallet like OM
Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-12-2018, 09:48 AM
I really wish MSU fans wouldn't make posts like this. Its really degrading to the program.
Just curious, are you going to make this statement every time we go from leading for a good player to losing him within a week to a blue blood?
If not, why?
Well unfortunately it is the hand we are working with at the moment.
ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 10:00 AM
Well unfortunately it is the hand we are working with at the moment.
No. It's your opinion and perception.
You have no fact as to this being the reason we are losing recruits.
ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 10:01 AM
Dude, I really wish we were a blue blood. I really do, but we aren't. If you wanna beat out blue bloods for OOS 5-stars, better come off the wallet like OM
Woof.
msstate7
09-12-2018, 10:03 AM
Woof.
We can't pull 5-stars in our own state with any consistency, and you expect us to get em OOS
ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 10:36 AM
We can't pull 5-stars in our own state with any consistency, and you expect us to get em OOS
No. I don't expect us to lead for a 5 star with that guy telling us he is coming and all of our recruiting guys saying he is coming, only to see him commit to a school that never led for him a week later.
Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-12-2018, 11:04 AM
No. I don't expect us to lead for a 5 star with that guy telling us he is coming and all of our recruiting guys saying he is coming, only to see him commit to a school that never led for him a week later.
You have ZERO knowledge of his relationship with Georgia and whether or not they were leading. All you are going on is what "People in the know" are telling you and you know sometimes they don't know shit! You are dealing with 17-18 year old kids that, believe or not, sometimes will tell anybody what they want to hear. So many factors could have been involved that you or anybody didn't know about.
No. It's your opinion and perception.
You have no fact as to this being the reason we are losing recruits.
Hahaha. Interesting you mention perception. Your perception is all you are going on with Emery. The perception that was given to you by people who were obviously wrong.
ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 12:30 PM
You have ZERO knowledge of his relationship with Georgia and whether or not they were leading. All you are going on is what "People in the know" are telling you and you know sometimes they don't know shit! You are dealing with 17-18 year old kids that, believe or not, sometimes will tell anybody what they want to hear. So many factors could have been involved that you or anybody didn't know about.
Hahaha. Interesting you mention perception. Your perception is all you are going on with Emery. The perception that was given to you by people who were obviously wrong.
Every assumption I've made, you've also made on the other side. There is no difference.
Bully13
09-12-2018, 01:34 PM
If we have the type of year I'm expecting, I feel confident JOMO and staff will take advantage of it come Feb unlike Mullen and crew did after our 5 week at #1 season. When you hit a 180 yd approach shot within 2 feet, you sink the birdie; not yip it.
Bothrops
09-12-2018, 03:24 PM
Let's see... a Louisiana kid that's a 5-star picks Georgia over state. How many OOS 5-stars have we got, ever? How many has Georgia got in the last 2 years? This is just a sour grapes arguement to me. We got beat by a much better recruiting staff at a much better program. Thus is life...
Better recruiting staff? I doubt that. Big name brand that's red hot would be your likely answer. Even I could recruit well at Georgia right now. They are going to sign the best class in the country.
msstate7
09-12-2018, 03:41 PM
Better recruiting staff? I doubt that. Big name brand that's red hot would be your likely answer. Even I could recruit well at Georgia right now. They are going to sign the best class in the country.
Smart is one of the best recruiters in the country, and he has been a while
bulldawg28
09-12-2018, 03:44 PM
If we have the type of year I'm expecting, I feel confident JOMO and staff will take advantage of it come Feb unlike Mullen and crew did after our 5 week at #1 season. When you hit a 180 yd approach shot within 2 feet, you sink the birdie; not yip it.
Agreed
smootness
09-12-2018, 04:02 PM
Better recruiting staff? I doubt that. Big name brand that's red hot would be your likely answer. Even I could recruit well at Georgia right now. They are going to sign the best class in the country.
Right.....because Smart is a great recruiter.
ShotgunDawg
09-12-2018, 04:50 PM
If we have the type of year I'm expecting, I feel confident JOMO and staff will take advantage of it come Feb unlike Mullen and crew did after our 5 week at #1 season. When you hit a 180 yd approach shot within 2 feet, you sink the birdie; not yip it.
I'd agree if the signing day were in February m, but it's in December now. I'd feel much better if most of these dudes wouldn't sign till February
1bigdawg
09-12-2018, 06:23 PM
If we have the type of year I'm expecting, I feel confident JOMO and staff will take advantage of it come Feb unlike Mullen and crew did after our 5 week at #1 season. When you hit a 180 yd approach shot within 2 feet, you sink the birdie; not yip it.
That was Mullen's best recruiting year and the basis of a lot of our projected success this year. I take your point that it would have been much better with better recruiting.
Cooterpoot
09-12-2018, 08:47 PM
That was Mullen's best recruiting year and the basis of a lot of our projected success this year. I take your point that it would have been much better with better recruiting.
Name all the highly rated Srs from that recruiting class. Peters and.....Most of our talent in our upper class is Juco transfers because Mullen missed so damn much.
msstate7
09-12-2018, 08:56 PM
Name all the highly rated Srs from that recruiting class. Peters and.....Most of our talent in our upper class is Juco transfers because Mullen missed so damn much.
Leo, Adams, rankin (nfl), Williams, story, green, and mclaurun... may not all be stars, but that class was not a bust like you imply
Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-12-2018, 09:41 PM
Every assumption I've made, you've also made on the other side. There is no difference.
So my point was made? Thank you!!
Cooterpoot
09-12-2018, 09:49 PM
Leo, Adams, rankin (nfl), Williams, story, green, and mclaurun... may not all be stars, but that class was not a bust like you imply
It was incredibly thin. Rankin is gone and We have 5 starters from that class.
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