2019 Recruiting Thread

[Bully13]

Is it true that Pruitt had consecutive 1000 yard receiving seasons?

is he an under the radar kinda guy?

[bostondawg]

is he an under the radar kinda guy?

I'm interested too. Twitter makes it seem like Jordan Jernigan (and his mom) had a great time. I assume we're on him hard. Does he project as a receiver at the next level?

[preachermatt83]

any names Preach?

Standifer and Jernigan both had great weekends in Starkville. Jernigan mom loves us.

[Homedawg]

I'll say it again- if we sign 10 of the top 15 in Mississippi we will dominate the state and I will be very happy. And I believe we will.

Thats going to be very hard to do that. But we can still have a banner class in state anyway

[Bully13]

Standifer and Jernigan both had great weekends in Starkville. Jernigan mom loves us.

do you have they're first names too? gracias

[Bothrops]

is he an under the radar kinda guy?

I would say so.

[bostondawg]

On the bball side, 2019 5* DJ Jeffries from Olive Branch is set to announce his decision at 7PM today. He says it's between us, Bama, and Kentucky. Although it looks like he's going to Kentucky.

[Ari Gold]

Recruiting update heading into spring ball next week and into the camps...

As stated by a few this staff is an upgrade from top to bottom in coaching and recruiting. That and this is from a returning coach

Just be patient when it comes to this class. Just wait till you get all the feedback from parents and coaches about CJM . It’s going to be beyond positive. He gets it and understands it.

Lots of negative recruiting against us ( expected) “What offense is going to be run?. What Defense ? How are you going to fit their scheme ?.. Who are your position coaches ?... Ect..
Once the players here start spring ball and see the staff in action it will be much easier for them to sell the program to the recruits. They can’t do that right now .
So everyone’s don’t be so discouraged if we don’t have a number of early commits like last year. They will come . This class also is very tight , most want to play together. Once we get spring ball going, camps this summer, and the most importantly kick ass this season things will fall in place with this class.

And he did say that once everyone starts breaks down rosters , who’s back , who’s coming in, impact players Ect.. don’t be shocked if we are in The upper half of a lot of preseason polls.
This team is good.

[Cooterpoot]

We've got a few big advantages too. We lose a ton on defense and the defensive talent in this class is very deep. Lots of playing time will be available. Same but to a lesser extent at a lot of other positions too. The fact we're getting high end prospects on campus multiple times should tell you all you need to know. We may not get them all, but we'll get a few and we're getting our name out there a lot better (no comparison). Hopefully they can reel in a lot of these guys.

[Turfdawg67]

Recruiting update heading into spring ball next week and into the camps...

As stated by a few this staff is an upgrade from top to bottom in coaching and recruiting. That and this is from a returning coach

Just be patient when it comes to this class. Just wait till you get all the feedback from parents and coaches about CJM . It’s going to be beyond positive. He gets it and understands it.

Lots of negative recruiting against us ( expected) “What offense is going to be run?. What Defense ? How are you going to fit their scheme ?.. Who are your position coaches ?... Ect..
Once the players here start spring ball and see the staff in action it will be much easier for them to sell the program to the recruits. They can’t do that right now .
So everyone’s don’t be so discouraged if we don’t have a number of early commits like last year. They will come . This class also is very tight , most want to play together. Once we get spring ball going, camps this summer, and the most importantly kick ass this season things will fall in place with this class.

And he did say that once everyone starts breaks down rosters , who’s back , who’s coming in, impact players Ect.. don’t be shocked if we are in The upper half of a lot of preseason polls.
This team is good.

Thanks for the update. Any news on the recruits that were in this past weekend?

[Ari Gold]

Thanks for the update. Any news on the recruits that were in this past weekend?

Very productive.

[archdawg]

Any ideas on what the Big Board looks like for this cycle? You guys seem to know better than any of the actual recruiting sites about who we are big on.

[Ari Gold]

Any ideas on what the Big Board looks like for this cycle? You guys seem to know better than any of the actual recruiting sites about who we are big on.

Will Have this in a couple weeks

[ShotgunDawg]

Handy decommitted from LSU. He was committed for...........10 days.......


Anyway, I'm sure OM got desperate here, but this was ridiculous. Scott Lashely's commitment to MSU may have been the shortest evahh & maybe Raequan Davis, but I'm not sure he counts.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Handy decommitted from LSU. He was committed for...........10 days.......


Anyway, I'm sure OM got desperate here, but this was ridiculous. Scott Lashely's commitment to MSU may have been the shortest evahh & maybe Raequan Davis, but I'm not sure he counts.

I don't think it was anything OM done. The kid has been talking about his recruitment was still open the moment he left LSU campus. He like a lot of kids just got caught up in the moment & made an emotional decision. Now that excitement has worn off he realizes he reacted too quick. I could see him committing & de-committing a couple more times.

[Cooterpoot]

Question for the knowledgeable ones here- How long til we offer this kid? Is the hold up his size? Age?

https://www.hudl.com/profile/9934261/Ty-Keyes

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Question for the knowledgeable ones here- How long til we offer this kid? Is the hold up his size? Age?

https://www.hudl.com/profile/9934261/Ty-Keyes

He will get an offer eventually & we will be a major player. He's only a 9th grader so we have time.

[preachermatt83]

Question for the knowledgeable ones here- How long til we offer this kid? Is the hold up his size? Age?

https://www.hudl.com/profile/9934261/Ty-Keyes

He will play at Mississippi state. And he's the real deal.

[Ari Gold]

Little buzz before spring ball starts ..
don’t be shocked is BCole draws the starting job at one CB position come this fall

[Bulldog1]

Little buzz before spring ball starts ..
don?t be shocked is BCole draws the starting job at one CB position come this fall

Thanks Ari! You always have good info. +1.

[Bully13]

Little buzz before spring ball starts ..
don’t be shocked is BCole draws the starting job at one CB position come this fall

It certainly appears he was highly rated coming out of high school. seems he's been all over the place. did he redshirt / sit out or something last year?

[Bully13]

He will get an offer eventually & we will be a major player. He's only a 9th grader so we have time.

just watched his film on 247. also remember reading a rick Cleveland article on him. 9th graders are just not supposed to be able to do things like that. like Preach and others are saying, he's all DOG.

[Coursesuper]

Recruiting update heading into spring ball next week and into the camps...

As stated by a few this staff is an upgrade from top to bottom in coaching and recruiting. That and this is from a returning coach

Just be patient when it comes to this class. Just wait till you get all the feedback from parents and coaches about CJM . It?s going to be beyond positive. He gets it and understands it.

Lots of negative recruiting against us ( expected) ?What offense is going to be run?. What Defense ? How are you going to fit their scheme ?.. Who are your position coaches ?... Ect..
Once the players here start spring ball and see the staff in action it will be much easier for them to sell the program to the recruits. They can?t do that right now .
So everyone?s don?t be so discouraged if we don?t have a number of early commits like last year. They will come . This class also is very tight , most want to play together. Once we get spring ball going, camps this summer, and the most importantly kick ass this season things will fall in place with this class.

And he did say that once everyone starts breaks down rosters , who?s back , who?s coming in, impact players Ect.. don?t be shocked if we are in The upper half of a lot of preseason polls.
This team is good.

I can add to this post, we are recruiting kid I know and have know him and his family for over a decade. His dad played college football and is a coach, he understands the process and how things work for sure and they are more than impressed with the new staff.

[Bully13]

thank you Ari and Super. good stuff.

Let not your hearts be troubled MSU brethren.

[Ari Gold]

One if not the top RB in the country for 2020 on campus today
Chris Tyree out of Virgina. Coach Huff doing work

[BHildreth3]

I am convinced of this about Mullen after talking to people who would know. Mullen never wanted to win big here. That is evident in his recruiting staff. He wanted to win just enough to get a Florida job. I think we are going to find out with this staff that we can win a lot more SEC games. I appreciate what Dan did, but I am pissed we didn't recruit better while Dak was on campus.

[Bully13]

I am convinced of this about Mullen after talking to people who would know. Mullen never wanted to win big here. That is evident in his recruiting staff. He wanted to win just enough to get a Florida job. I think we are going to find out with this staff that we can win a lot more SEC games. I appreciate what Dan did, but I am pissed we didn't recruit better while Dak was on campus.

After that run when we were no 1 for 5 weeks and dak returning was the most pitiful recruiting effort in the history of college football. Some here were making excuses for muffins like how you need to be on the kids for several years and next year we'll blow it out of the water. Bullshit.

[Todd4State]

I am convinced of this about Mullen after talking to people who would know. Mullen never wanted to win big here. That is evident in his recruiting staff. He wanted to win just enough to get a Florida job. I think we are going to find out with this staff that we can win a lot more SEC games. I appreciate what Dan did, but I am pissed we didn't recruit better while Dak was on campus.

I don't think it was that. I think Dan just didn't like recruiting period.

[Bully13]

I don't think it was that. I think Dan just didn't like recruiting period.

I'm hoping that doesn't change.

[Todd4State]

I'm hoping that doesn't change.

I doubt it will. A leopard shows his spots as they say. He's not going to stop panicking in close games either.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

He's not going to stop panicking in close games either.

This year was the first game in 10 tries that he ass didn't pucker up against Saban....IN THE FIRST QTR. It eventually did with 5 minutes to go when he got conservative. He didn't know what pressure was at MSU. Just wait until he goes up against Tenn., Ga., and Fla. St. on a yearly basis and their fanbase expects winning each of those.

[Todd4State]

This year was the first game in 10 tries that he ass didn't pucker up against Saban....IN THE FIRST QTR. It eventually did with 5 minutes to go when he got conservative. He didn't know what pressure was at MSU. Just wait until he goes up against Tenn., Ga., and Fla. St. on a yearly basis and their fanbase expects winning each of those.

He also has LSU as their permanent opponent too.

[bulldawg28]

I'm hoping that doesn't change.

Florida can still recruit by name alone. He left for an easier challenge.

[msstate7]

I do not get the Mullen cannot recruit and the 2018 football team is loaded. Seems these are conflicting statements.

[Ari Gold]

Let’s leave all things Mullen out of the recruiting thread..

[yjnkdawg]

Let’s leave all things Mullen out of the recruiting thread..


It would be nice, in my opinion, if you could click on this thread and just get pertinent updates on MSU 2019 recruiting, but I don't see that ever happening.

[Todd4State]

It would be nice, in my opinion, if you could click on this thread and just get pertinent updates on MSU 2019 recruiting, but I don't see that ever happening.

Ummm it's March.

[Ari Gold]

I will throw this out there.. don’t close the door on Nakobe Dean yet. Still probably ends up at Bama or out of state . But I like our chances as much as OM.. I don’t give a **** what The Spirit says...

[BuckyIsAB****]

I will throw this out there.. don’t close the door on Nakobe Dean yet. Still probably ends up at Bama or out of state . But I like our chances as much as OM.. I don’t give a **** what The Spirit says...

Good. We shouldnt be conceding anyone in the state of MS

[msstate7]

Seeing quinton torbor CBs to state. If we pull him, it will be the best commitment since Moorhead got here

[Todd4State]

Seeing quinton torbor CBs to state. If we pull him, it will be the best commitment since Moorhead got here

Ani Izuchukwu is a four star DE/OLB that is getting some CB's to MSU as well. It sounds like Diwun Black may be getting back in the boat as well.

I suspect recruits are going to wait and see how we look with Joe this season before they pull the trigger in general. It's already a much different vibe with Joe and that's a good thing.

[Turfdawg67]

I do not get the Mullen cannot recruit and the 2018 football team is loaded. Seems these are conflicting statements.

After everyone read your post...

https://s31.postimg.org/gdbb6xkob/300_F9140-9_B9_C-4_A5_A-8_FE6-4_A5_B1_C72535_E.gif

[ShotgunDawg]

In the quest to land the best recruiting class in MSU history, it appears that Moorhead has hit his drive straight down the middle of the fairway at about 315 yards and possibly cut off part of the dogleg

Now, that means nothing, but it appears that things are headed in the right direction.

[Jack Lambert]

I do not get the Mullen cannot recruit and the 2018 football team is loaded. Seems these are conflicting statements.

I don't think he was good at closing highly rated guys and I am not sure if he wanted to. What he was good at and what makes the 2018 loaded was his ability to find rough diamonds that everyone else looked past and he was committed to getting the best he could from the State of MS.

[jumbo]

I don't think he was good at closing highly rated guys and I am not sure if he wanted to. What he was good at and what makes the 2018 loaded was his ability to find rough diamonds that everyone else looked past and he was committed to getting the best he could from the State of MS.

He wanted the kids to come to him first. That worked to find the underrated guys that would work their asses off and that’s how the “diamonds” were found.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Anyone know what's going on with Schrader? Saw he was coming for a visit this weekend and Rosie seems to think it's kind of make or break in regards to our chances.

[msbulldog]

Anyone know what's going on with Schrader? Saw he was coming for a visit this weekend and Rosie seems to think it's kind of make or break in regards to our chances.

I took Steves comments in Boneyard to indicate that it was time for Shrader to make a commitment, that we ain't waiting on him to make up his mind between us and USCe.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Anyone know what's going on with Schrader? Saw he was coming for a visit this weekend and Rosie seems to think it's kind of make or break in regards to our chances.

This visit needs to be a HR visit because South Carolina feels he's trending towards them & could commit to them this weekend at their spring game. If he leaves South Carolina uncommitted this weekend & makes his way to Super bulldog weekend I think we get him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This visit needs to be a HR visit because South Carolina feels he's trending towards them & could commit to them this weekend at their spring game. If he leaves South Carolina uncommitted this weekend & makes his way to Super bulldog weekend I think we get him.

I feel like his connection with Moorhead is our ace in the hole. It'll just come down to competition. He'll probably have a better chance to get on the field earlier at USCe, but from a development standpoint we're far and away the best option between the two

[Cooterpoot]

He's going to SC. He doesn't want to get too far from home and he sees a chance to play. I don't see us changing that. Hope we can, but not expecting it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If we don't get Shrader then KJ Jefferson is next in line.

[TStationDawg]

Where are we with Kendrell Scurry? I'm hearing some interesting things in my neck of the woods. Before the coaching change, PSU was on him hard....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Where are we with Kendrell Scurry? I'm hearing some interesting things in my neck of the woods. Before the coaching change, PSU was on him hard....

I know he had interest last year but I haven't heard much lately. He still could be interested just haven't heard his name. Kid can play would be a nice get.

[msbulldog]

If we don't get Shrader then KJ Jefferson is next in line.

Jefferson would be a good pick up in Mississippi's backyard, plus I have read he is just a heck of an athlete. If he doesn't work out as QB, we can use a good athlete elsewhere. From what I have read on 247 we are in on other QB's.

[Ari Gold]

This visit needs to be a HR visit because South Carolina feels he's trending towards them & could commit to them this weekend at their spring game. If he leaves South Carolina uncommitted this weekend & makes his way to Super bulldog weekend I think we get him.

This is 100% accurate ..and I expect him to commit to usce this weekend ..

[ShotgunDawg]

This is 100% accurate ..and I expect him to commit to usce this weekend ..

A QB with options committing to Muschamp feels like career suicide.

[msstate7]

A QB with options committing to Muschamp feels like career suicide.

Bentley is projected an nfl pick, right?

[ShotgunDawg]

Bentley is projected an nfl pick, right?

Eh, not sure. He's never looked like an NFL QB to me.

But, if you want to tell me I'm wrong for shits & giggles & defend Muschamp as a good fit for highly recruited QBs, then go right ahead

[msstate7]

Eh, not sure. He's never looked like an NFL QB to me.

But, if you want to tell me I'm wrong for shits & giggles & defend Muschamp as a good fit for highly recruited QBs, then go right ahead

I would not play for muschamp if I were a qb. You said it was career suicide though. Walterfootball has Bentley as #10 qb in draft going into next season.

[ShotgunDawg]

I would not play for muschamp if I were a qb. You said it was career suicide though. Walterfootball has Bentley as #10 qb in draft going into next season.

You got me. You win. Congrats

You must be awesome to hang out with*

[ShotgunDawg]

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[msstate7]

You got me. You win. Congrats

You must be awesome to hang out with*

According to other in this thread, the kid wants to stay close to home and a chance to play early. We offer neither. Just not a fit

[BuckyIsAB****]

I wouldve been on KJ Jefferson harder than a kid from SC but thats just me. Hope they both have good careers

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I wouldve been on KJ Jefferson harder than a kid from SC but thats just me. Hope they both have good careers

We've been on him just as hard

[Ari Gold]

According to other in this thread, the kid wants to stay close to home and a chance to play early. We offer neither. Just not a fit

I don’t read much into the close to home .. he was a PSU heavy lean just a few months ago. That’s not just up the road from Charlotte. And our starting QB is a SR.

[Cooterpoot]

Jefferson and Parrish will look good in maroon.

[Bully13]

Jefferson and Parrish will look good in maroon.

What's Parrish's first name? don't see him on the page 1 offer list.

[Doggie_Style]

What's Parrish's first name? don't see him on the page 1 offer list.

Peter...

https://247sports.com/player/peter-parrish-46043259

[Ifyouonlyknew]

As of right now I think we get Shrader. Still have to make it through the weekend but he & his family said all the right things on their visit.

[msstate7]

As of right now I think we get Shrader. Still have to make it through the weekend but he & his family said all the right things on their visit.

Great. Always a good thing to get your #1 QB target

[maroonmania]

Great. Always a good thing to get your #1 QB target

IF we get him. Still not feeling too confident since he didn't actually commit to us.

[Todd4State]

IF we get him. Still not feeling too confident since he didn't actually commit to us.

He's coming back for the spring game though. He probably wants to see what the offense looks like and how the team looks.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IF we get him. Still not feeling too confident since he didn't actually commit to us.

That was never the purpose of this visit. The goal was to make him feel comfortable with the team & get him back for Super Bulldog weekend. That's when we would expect a commitment. That's the plan for Shrader right now. Still have to get through the weekend but we're feeling a lot better.

[ShotgunDawg]

Can someone explain this?

I didn't think this was allowed under OM's probation:

"Eric Gray knows the Ole Miss football program well. The nation's No. 3 all-purpose back, Gray returned to the Ole Miss campus for the fourth time this year on Friday."

[msstate7]

Can someone explain this?

I didn't think this was allowed under OM's probation:

"Eric Gray knows the Ole Miss football program well. The nation's No. 3 all-purpose back, Gray returned to the Ole Miss campus for the fourth time this year on Friday."

Homedawg pointed out the other day that until the appeal is ruled on that the visit rules do not start

[maroonmania]

Can someone explain this?

I didn't think this was allowed under OM's probation:

"Eric Gray knows the Ole Miss football program well. The nation's No. 3 all-purpose back, Gray returned to the Ole Miss campus for the fourth time this year on Friday."

Not sure but regardless, when has something not being allowed ever stopped anything with regard to OM football recruiting.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Can someone explain this?

I didn't think this was allowed under OM's probation:

"Eric Gray knows the Ole Miss football program well. The nation's No. 3 all-purpose back, Gray returned to the Ole Miss campus for the fourth time this year on Friday."

I don't think the restrictions are in place while the appeal is pending; not 100% on that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Homedawg pointed out the other day that until the appeal is ruled on that the visit rules do not start

Well, that seems like complete bullshit.

So, once the appeal is heard & denied, will players that have already taken an unofficial visit be allowed to take another?

Will the sanction last start from that point or has the time period of the sanction technically already started?

[Bully13]

That was never the purpose of this visit. The goal was to make him feel comfortable with the team & get him back for Super Bulldog weekend. That's when we would expect a commitment. That's the plan for Shrader right now. Still have to get through the weekend but we're feeling a lot better.

is there any info on how well the visit went? musta gone good since "we're feeling a lot better"

just got thru watching the video over on 247 and I grew some wool. he seems to have a quick release. doesn't wind up at all from what I saw. breaks tackles. 6-4 too.

[msbulldog]

Well, that seems like complete bullshit.

So, once the appeal is heard & denied, will players that have already taken an unofficial visit be allowed to take another?

Will the sanction last start from that point or has the time period of the sanction technically already started?

The penalty will start at the point the appeal is (if) denied, it will last for the length of probation which is 4 years. The probation period is 4 years from the time the COI handed down their verdict. Prior visits will not count.

[ShotgunDawg]

The penalty will start at the point the appeal is (if) denied, it will last for the length of probation which is 4 years. The probation period is 4 years from the time the COI handed down their verdict. Prior visits will not count.

So, by appealing, they are cheating part of the penalty?

That doesn’t seem right.

[msstate7]

So, by appealing, they are cheating part of the penalty?

That doesn’t seem right.

Delaying. They will still get it

[msbulldog]

So, by appealing, they are cheating part of the penalty?

That doesn’t seem right.

If (big if) they can hold TCUN to 1 unofficial per recruit for 3.5 years it will cripple UM. Think about it, every other program get's to bring recruits on campus as many time as they want and Mississippi gets 2 shots 1 unofficial and 1 official!

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

So did Shrader commit to USCe this past weekend? I think I read somewhere that he was.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So did Shrader commit to USCe this past weekend? I think I read somewhere that he was.

No decision coming in the next 2 or 3 weeks.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No decision coming in the next 2 or 3 weeks.

Could be as early as this week

[RezDog7]

Could be as early as this week

That seems bad.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The director of recruiting on 247 seems to think we're definitely in the drivers seat after his visit last week. Feel like we could get a commitment at SBW.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That seems bad.

It's not

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The director of recruiting on 247 seems to think we're definitely in the drivers seat after his visit last week. Feel like we could get a commitment at SBW.

Very likely to be before then.

[RezDog7]

It's not

Ok, just figured if it were the good guys he would wait until SBW.

[Ari Gold]

I told everyone just be patient. Give these recruits time to see how CJM and the staff operate , give our players time to tell these recruits how it’s night and day compared to last year , give these high school coaches a little time to see how CJM and this staff is a breath of fresh air, give some time and them see the team kicking ass this fall...
The commits will come. And to be honest there a couple that would commit right now if we pushed them too.

Be patient this class will be very good .

[Todd4State]

I told everyone just be patient. Give these recruits time to see how CJM and the staff operate , give our players time to tell these recruits how it’s night and day compared to last year , give these high school coaches a little time to see how CJM and this staff is a breath of fresh air, give some time and them see the team kicking ass this fall...
The commits will come. And to be honest there a couple that would commit right now if we pushed them too.

Be patient this class will be very good .

I think everyone is going to be surprised in a very good and positive way in January and February with our recruiting.

I think getting Fabien Lovett back in the boat was just the first sign of things to come because had Dan still been around I honestly don't think we get him.

[Turfdawg67]

If (big if) they can hold TCUN to 1 unofficial per recruit for 3.5 years it will cripple UM. Think about it, every other program get's to bring recruits on campus as many time as they want and Mississippi gets 2 shots 1 unofficial and 1 official!

Yes, that's the rule. And as we all know, UM follows the rules.

[thf24]

Yes, that's the rule. And as we all know, UM follows the rules.

If they break this rule, they're going to get caught very quickly. All the NCAA has to do is loosely monitor a few of their top targets' social media. The real question is whether the NCAA is interested in enforcing it.

[SouthMSDog]

I told everyone just be patient. Give these recruits time to see how CJM and the staff operate , give our players time to tell these recruits how it?s night and day compared to last year , give these high school coaches a little time to see how CJM and this staff is a breath of fresh air, give some time and them see the team kicking ass this fall...
The commits will come. And to be honest there a couple that would commit right now if we pushed them too.

Be patient this class will be very good .


Look at this group from Michigan coming in to watch practice - per Paul. (Sorry DGD)

2019 CB and 247Sports four-star Julian Barnett of Belleville (Mi.) HS - No. 7 CB in the country
2019 OL and 247Sports five-star Devontae Dobbs of Belleville (Mi.) HS - No. 1 offensive tackle in the country
2019 DE and 247Sports three-star Jalen Hunt of Belleville (Mi.) HS
2019 ILB and 247Sports three-star Marvin Ham of Belleville (Mi.) HS - Boston College commit

[Bully13]

Look at this group from Michigan coming in to watch practice - per Paul. (Sorry DGD)

2019 CB and 247Sports four-star Julian Barnett of Belleville (Mi.) HS - No. 7 CB in the country
2019 OL and 247Sports five-star Devontae Dobbs of Belleville (Mi.) HS - No. 1 offensive tackle in the country
2019 DE and 247Sports three-star Jalen Hunt of Belleville (Mi.) HS
2019 ILB and 247Sports three-star Marvin Ham of Belleville (Mi.) HS - Boston College commit

DAMN!

[Cooterpoot]

Big pickup in Shrader!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Big pickup in Shrader!

Yes indeed!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Big pickup in Shrader!

Huge pickup for CJM and the staff. Always easier to build an elite recruiting class with the QB already in tow before summer camps

[Commercecomet24]

JoMo doing work!

[Cooterpoot]

These sum beaches can recruit! We didn't realize how sorry the Mullen recruiting was until these last couple months. It's insane the difference!!

[Cooterpoot]

Something tells me this is going to start a little wave of commits in the next couple of months.

[Johnson85]

If they break this rule, they're going to get caught very quickly. All the NCAA has to do is loosely monitor a few of their top targets' social media. The real question is whether the NCAA is interested in enforcing it.

They're not going to be interested in enforcing it. Think about how bad a look it will be if they try to stop students from visiting a school they are interested in. The only challenge to them will be getting the visits going, but once a recruit is interested in coming and they know he is interested in playing the game, I doubt there's going to be much the NCAA can or will do.

[vv83]

Yes indeed!!

We on his teammate, Jeremiah Gray by any chance?

[Commercecomet24]

They're not going to be interested in enforcing it. Think about how bad a look it will be if they try to stop students from visiting a school they are interested in. The only challenge to them will be getting the visits going, but once a recruit is interested in coming and they know he is interested in playing the game, I doubt there's going to be much the NCAA can or will do.

Yeah I think you can pretty much eliminate the NCAA enforcing anything. They only care about making money. I had held out hope that they might wail on unm but when that didn't happen with all the violations they had, it showed me enforcement and penalties are a thing of the past.

[Ari Gold]

Boom !!!!!
Trust me this class could be a little bigger right now If we wanted it to be ... the final 2019 recruiting rankings are going to have a certain school wondering wtf just happened

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We on his teammate, Jeremiah Gray by any chance?

We haven't been. We have a bunch of solid Safety options instate I think we'll be fine there.

[msbulldog]

Boom !!!!!
Trust me this class could be a little bigger right now If we wanted it to be ... the final 2019 recruiting rankings are going to have a certain school wondering wtf just happened

Ari your right, we have several that are right on the edge. If we pushed they would come.

[ShotgunDawg]

Boom !!!!!
Trust me this class could be a little bigger right now If we wanted it to be ... the final 2019 recruiting rankings are going to have a certain school wondering wtf just happened

Any hints?

[ATTILLA THE DOG]

Any hints?

Paul thinks we have a couple of commits that have not gone public yet.

[Bully13]

Boom !!!!!
Trust me this class could be a little bigger right now If we wanted it to be ... the final 2019 recruiting rankings are going to have a certain school wondering wtf just happened

https://s14.postimg.org/62vaawxv5/wool.png

[Pollodawg]

I?ll be the peckerhead that asks if this is going to be like the ?Maroon Tidal Wave? all over again. I?m excited to see how JoMo closes. He likely won?t do any worse than Danny did.

[Bully13]

I?ll be the peckerhead that asks if this is going to be like the ?Maroon Tidal Wave? all over again. I?m excited to see how JoMo closes. He likely won?t do any worse than Danny did.

"likely" ?

[preachermatt83]

It's not

How do u know these things ahead of everyone else?? Man it's nuts.

[Turfdawg67]

How do u know these things ahead of everyone else?? Man it's nuts.

If you only knew...

[Todd4State]

These sum beaches can recruit! We didn't realize how sorry the Mullen recruiting was until these last couple months. It's insane the difference!!

I used to think that our ceiling was top 15-20 in recruiting. Joe has me wondering if I underestimated that.

[Todd4State]

Yeah I think you can pretty much eliminate the NCAA enforcing anything. They only care about making money. I had held out hope that they might wail on unm but when that didn't happen with all the violations they had, it showed me enforcement and penalties are a thing of the past.

To be honest my hope for wanting Ole Miss to get nailed was/is twofold:

1. They had to cheat and because they did it in part took away some things that we would and should have achieved. They will in fact likely have to vacate some of those accomplishments and there is no question that that the accomplishments that they did achieve are at best tarnished.

2. I had come to the realization that Ole Miss being on probation was the only way that Dan would be able to recruit to his full potential. Of course, I was assuming at the time that Dan would stay.

The good news on that is Dan left. That was as far as recruiting goes a bigger blow to Ole Miss recruiting than anything the NCAA did. My theory for awhile after hearing about some of the backstories on how recruiting battles went down was that Dan was as much and actually MORE of a problem than Ole Miss paying recruits. MSU landing defensive players like Leo Lewis, Chris Jones, PJ Jones, and etc. seemed to reinforce that as they were offered money and wanted badly by Ole Miss and yet we got all of them. Some of them when Ole Miss was going crazy with their recruiting parties even. But notice very few high end in state prospects on the offensive side where the country club lived.

Even worse a lot of things that the old staff wasn't doing were things that were so simple that I think it would massively upset a lot of our fans. Things like just quitting on a recruit or not calling them and paying them any attention. The bottom line is the effort simply wasn't there in recruiting on the offensive side of the ball from the last staff. And even worse they let their arrogance blind them in terms of making improvements. That's why I was so adamant about getting rid of Hevesy and honestly should have been just adamant about getting rid of Sallach and Gonzalez.

[Todd4State]

Ari your right, we have several that are right on the edge. If we pushed they would come.

We could be waiting to make an actual splash in recruiting for a change. We'll see.

[Ari Gold]

We are slow playing some because the are little further down on our big board. And we feel good about the ones ahead of them.

[sscjr1]

Good news this morning?

[Bulldog1]

https://twitter.com/BallCoachJoeMo/status/981528265910349825?s=20

[Ari Gold]

My guess it’s Jarrian Jones.
He is a big piece of the Mississippi class.

[Bulldog1]

My guess it’s Jarrian Jones.
He is a big piece of the Mississippi class.

Quinton Torbor
https://twitter.com/QTorbor14/status/981531702181982213?s=20

[ShotgunDawg]

My guess it’s Jarrian Jones.
He is a big piece of the Mississippi class.

Not him but good go know you think he’s a dawg

[Ari Gold]

Quinton Torbor
https://twitter.com/QTorbor14/status/981531702181982213?s=20

Nice. Was expecting him to committ SBW...

[Cooterpoot]

Torbor is a stud! Great hands and body control. He won't be the last commit the next couple of weeks either..........................

[Bully13]

anybody know why LSU didn't / hasn't offer Torbor?

[ShotgunDawg]

anybody know why LSU didn't / hasn't offer Torbor?

They signed 3 4 star WRs last year. Perhaps they just "need" him in this class

[Ifyouonlyknew]

anybody know why LSU didn't / hasn't offer Torbor?

LSU can't offer every Louisiana kid.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Torbor is a stud! Great hands and body control. He won't be the last commit this week either ..........................

FIFY

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Would be great if the next commit is Nathan Pickering.

[ShotgunDawg]

Would be great if the next commit is Nathan Pickering.

I could honestly see Pickering being a silent commit but not actually committing till signing day.

He appears to be having too much fun to shut it down. Recruiting has been betty, betty good to him (Sammy Sosa voice)

[Commercecomet24]

I could honestly see Pickering being a silent commit but not actually committing till signing day.

He appears to be having too much fun to shut it down. Recruiting has been betty, betty good to him (Sammy Sosa voice)

My son is friends with Nathan Pickering and was talking to him yesterday. It's between us and LSU, and he like Joe very much. And yes he likes having a good time lol. BTW he's not a big fan of lateral move at all lol.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Would be great if the next commit is Nathan Pickering.

Don't hold your breath on that 1. It's likely to be a while.

[Commercecomet24]

Don't hold your breath on that 1. It's likely to be a while.

Yep. That one's gonna take awhile.

[Cooterpoot]

Pickering is going to end up at State. It's just a matter of time. I wouldn't be surprised if it's at the end of the summer. I wouldn't be surprised if it's next Feb. But's it's going to happen.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

My guess it?s Jarrian Jones.
He is a big piece of the Mississippi class.

GOLD

[SouthMSDog]

I see where Paul just CB'd 4 star all purpose back, Eric Gray to Mississippi State. I something in the water this week or what!? If this plays out like the CBs are projecting (and holds) - wow this could be blue bloodesque recruiting. We still have a legit shot with Ronald Thompkins, as well. Not to mention all of the in-state guys. I am beside myself.

I would like to get some of these interested big uglies locked up. Didn't I read somewhere that Charles Cross (Laurel) was invited to the UA All American game, or did I make that up? I won't hold my breath for Cunningham, yet, but Medley or one or two of these other out of state guys seem to have interest. IYOK or Ari, whatever happened with the Edgar-Ndoma fella from TX?

[Bully13]

I see where Paul just CB'd 4 star all purpose back, Eric Gray to Mississippi State. I something in the water this week or what!? If this plays out like the CBs are projecting (and holds) - wow this could be blue bloodesque recruiting. We still have a legit shot with Ronald Thompkins, as well. Not to mention all of the in-state guys. I am beside myself.

I would like to get some of these interested big uglies locked up. Didn't I read somewhere that Charles Cross (Laurel) was invited to the UA All American game, or did I make that up? I won't hold my breath for Cunningham, yet, but Medley or one or two of these other out of state guys seem to have interest. IYOK or Ari, whatever happened with the Edgar-Ndoma fella from TX?

yep , need to see some big uglies. BAD. and just damn on Ronald Thomkins. dude is a 4 star with a .91 and is the 37th ranked player in GA. GA is just 17ing stacked with talent.

[bostondawg]

Interesting. Didn't know we were after Eric Gray. Isn't that the kid Ole Miss is after hard?

[jacksondawg]

Does anyone know how the group from Michigan's visit went the other day?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Here are my thoughts

1. Moorhead is "cooler" than many think. He clicks with kids, and with their families. Just a good man and it shows.
2. He and his staff are making a commitment to recruit every day. Never skip a day.
3. We are getting a slight bump with practices going on. Recruits are seeing that coach is sharp.
4. Coach has a staff that builds relationships and can flat coach.

With a December signing period, some schools are going to rise and fall in the eyes of recruits based upon performance. We should be really good this fall. That will help us hold the out-of-state guys especially. Imagine Torbor walking the halls of his school after we whip LSU. Recruits want to feel important. Winning makes their offer look more prestigious. We need to win big this fall. This is the most important class in years to our program.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

This class could send us to new heights. It could also drop us back to the cellar.

1. The talent in 2019 in Mississippi is the best in years.
2. We are losing many players after this season.
3. Ole Miss is reeling.
4. Moorhead can build momentum.
5. 2018 season should be great. 2019 season is a rebuild of sorts.

A mediocre class would be a huge lost opportunity. I love where we stand right now. This class could be incredible. Moorhead can't let this opportunity slip past. Lots of talent, and lots of depth. I like where we are right now,

[Commercecomet24]

Here are my thoughts

1. Moorhead is "cooler" than many think. He clicks with kids, and with their families. Just a good man and it shows.
2. He and his staff are making a commitment to recruit every day. Never skip a day.
3. We are getting a slight bump with practices going on. Recruits are seeing that coach is sharp.
4. Coach has a staff that builds relationships and can flat coach.

With a December signing period, some schools are going to rise and fall in the eyes of recruits based upon performance. We should be really good this fall. That will help us hold the out-of-state guys especially. Imagine Torbor walking the halls of his school after we whip LSU. Recruits want to feel important. Winning makes their offer look more prestigious. We need to win big this fall. This is the most important class in years to our program.

Agree on all. Joe is cool. He made a real impression on my son who was with a recruit when joe came to visit. He took the time to talk to my son ask him how Baseball was going and just show genuine interest. Joe has IT going on!

[Bothrops]

Hmm..

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Judging by tweets it appears that Jarrian Jones will be in the boat soon.

[Bully13]

I would be interested to know Moorhead's personal recruiting strengths at his previous gigs. he seems to be a guy you'd have a tough time saying no to.

[BrunswickDawg]

This class could send us to new heights. It could also drop us back to the cellar.

1. The talent in 2019 in Mississippi is the best in years.
2. We are losing many players after this season.
3. Ole Miss is reeling.
4. Moorhead can build momentum.
5. 2018 season should be great. 2019 season is a rebuild of sorts.

A mediocre class would be a huge lost opportunity. I love where we stand right now. This class could be incredible. Moorhead can't let this opportunity slip past. Lots of talent, and lots of depth. I like where we are right now,

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

[Bully13]

Ha, I see we can now type "Mullins" LOL

[Ifyouonlyknew]

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

WR - Dear isn't a Sr

OL - 3 returning starters (Eiland Reese & Williams)

TE - Johnson graduates

DL - Mullins transferred before last season. Return Rivers, Spencer, Jones, Adams, Autry, & Jackson. RS guys like Lovett, Crumedy, & Robinson. Add potentially the best DL class we've ever signed in the 2019 class.

LB - No Sr this year

CB - Guidry is a Safety not a CB. Dantzler & Williams the lead guys

Nickel/Safety - Cole, Landrews, Guidry, Murphy, & Morgan-Walker all return

[Ifyouonlyknew]

These next couple weeks are going to be a fun time.

[ShotgunDawg]

These next couple weeks are going to be a fun time.

Like.... how fun?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Like.... how fun?

I can't speak for others fun level but I know I'm going to enjoy it.

[Cooterpoot]

RB, DB, DL commit fun. SBW is going to be something else.

[Commercecomet24]

Things are starting to get really exciting.

[RezDog7]

Like.... how fun?

Like, everybody gets free coffee fun?

[BuckyIsAB****]

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

Chauncey Rivers is the best DL we have outside of Simmons. And thats from a current DL and former DL

[Bully13]

Chauncey Rivers is the best DL we have outside of Simmons. And thats from a current DL and former DL

Chauncey originally signed with UGA then ended up in MS Juco. anybody remember what his offer list looked like out of Juco? out of H.S. he had tons of blue blood offers.

[maroonmania]

RB, DB, DL commit fun. SBW is going to be something else.

After last year's class I'm ready for some OL commit fun.

[preachermatt83]

Chauncey Rivers is the best DL we have outside of Simmons. And thats from a current DL and former DL

And to tell you how deep we are, Chauncey is running with the 2's right now.

[CadaverDawg]

Just my every now and then check-in on crootin....

Things are sounding good. How are we looking on OL recruiting? Can anybody run down our current OL commits and who we expect/hope to land on the OL? How about the corner position....any potential future lock down corners we are either after or have committed? I really want to see us bring in some studs at CB, because I feel like Mullen & club did a terrible job taking advantage of Banks’s Thorpe Award. We didn’t really capitalize on him & Slay in the recruiting game at all.

Thanks in advance

[Todd4State]

Just my every now and then check-in on crootin....

Things are sounding good. How are we looking on OL recruiting? Can anybody run down our current OL commits and who we expect/hope to land on the OL? How about the corner position....any potential future lock down corners we are either after or have committed? I really want to see us bring in some studs at CB, because I feel like Mullen & club did a terrible job taking advantage of Banks?s Thorpe Award. We didn?t really capitalize on him & Slay in the recruiting game at all.

Thanks in advance

We are keeping Montravious Richardson for now even though personally I'm not a big fan of his. Anyone that redshirts in JUCO gives me pause.

That said- I think we get Charles Cross from Laurel who is really good and we have made some big moves with Brandon Cunningham a four star OL from St. Martin on the Gulf Coast. Cross should be at least a high three star if not four star if evaluated properly but you know how that goes.

The biggest difference is we have offered a lot more offensive linemen in the process and we haven't just given up on a guy like Cunningham just because he is committed to Miami and was allegedly an Ole Miss fan. Hevesy didn't even offer Cunningham because of some bullshit about his arms or something like that despite being a four star guy and Miami taking his commitment.

We have a commitment from DJ James who is a CB from the Mobile area and I like him a lot despite the fact that he is a three star guy and we may get a commitment from a CB in the NOLA area named Greg Brooks who I haven't seen yet.

[Todd4State]

2019 is a rebuild of sorts, but we have some Key pieces coming back for 2019 -
QB - Key as Jr.
RB - Kylin & Nick Gibson
WR - Only lose Dear and Jackson
OL - 2 returning starters (Eiland & Reese), plus Williams, Story, Parker, Suggs as a base (definitely thin, but good)
TE - everyone of importance back

DL - Mullins, Spencer, Kobe, Fletcher Adams, Autry, and if we are lucky Rivers (very good but not elite)
LB - Leo (hopefully), Errol, and Willie as a base
CB - Guidry and Dantzler
S - Landrews, ????

That's not a bad starting point 18 months out, and doesn't factor in any of RSF from 2017, the 2018 FR, or the 2019 FR. We needs lots of young guys to get appropriate playing time this year to be ready for '19.

I don't know if I would call 2019 a rebuild year or not. It's pretty rare for us to return as much as we are in 2018- the most returning starters in my fan lifetime with obvious upgrades at WR.

But we have:

QB- Key- four star QB who has some starting experience and I think Moorhead will use him a lot like Penn State used Tommy Stephens the back-up at Penn State last year. It will be his first year as a starter, but I think he will have a lot of playing experience.
RB- Kylin- I think he is a special player for us and busts out this year.
WR- Guidry, Todd, Heath, Couch as the outside guys and they will all be upper classmen except for Heath who I think will be a solid starter for us at worst and has a chance to be a special player also. Whop I think has a chance to be special as well.
Slot- Whop, Deddrick Thomas, and Dear all come back. I'm interested to see how we use Dear as I consider him more of an ATH like a Percy Harvin than a true slot WR. Thomas is a veteran and Whop and Key go way back. Austin Williams will be a good player for us also.
TE- Farrod will be a senior. If I am MSU I might consider bulking up Williams and using him as a TE/WR/H-Back to get him on the field more.
OL- We need to find a center. I think we need to move Reese to guard at some point as well. If it were me I would go LT- Eiland, LG- Reese, C- Story who has played some but has had injuries, RG- Williams, RT- Champion. That's a line with two juniors and three seniors on it. I think Tyre Phillips and maybe even Dolla Bill could start as well. I noticed that we moved a walk-on Matt Stanic to center recently and he is a big dude. Maybe he becomes the next Ben Beckwith except at center.

DL- Kind of depends on if Rivers comes back and Simmons as well although I don't expect Simmons to return for his senior year. Spencer, Kobe, and Adams have all played and will be upperclassmen. Autry will have playing experience by this time next year as well. We obviously won't have the depth that we do now but I like Aaron Odom, Fabien Lovett, Jaden Crumedy, James Jackson, and Devon Robinson.
LB- Leo, Erroll, and Willie Gay is a very good group of linebackers and all three will be upperclassmen. Washington is a solid role player and we'll see what Kilby-Lane brings to the table. I like Jett Johnson as a player too and I think he will help us with depth next year as a redshirt freshman.
CB- Love Dantzler and he will be a junior. The other spot is a question mark- Marcus Murphy? JUCO CB? Brian Cole? I'd have to guess that Tyler Williams is the favorite at the moment.
S- This group actually concerns me more than the DL or CB at the moment which is early. My guess at the moment is Brian Cole and Marcus Murphy. I do like Landon Guidry a lot but I'm not sure he starts in 2019. If we can flip Brandon Turnage I think he would have a very good chance of starting.

K- Christmann
P- Schexnader
KO- ???
KR/PR- Mixon and Thomas

On paper this looks like a good team but we'll see how next goes and see what intangibles they have to deal with.

[Bully13]

And to tell you how deep we are, Chauncey is running with the 2's right now.

if he's running with the 2's, then the coaches don't believe he's # 2 then, right?

[preachermatt83]

if he's running with the 2's, then the coaches don't believe he's # 2 then, right?

I think he just catching up. I would be shocked if he was not starting come sept.

[Bully13]

I think he just catching up. I would be shocked if he was not starting come sept.


so is he a JR this year? did he see any action last year which was his first year here?

[preachermatt83]

so is he a JR this year? did he see any action last year which was his first year here?

Academic redshirt.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think he just catching up. I would be shocked if he was not starting come sept.

I expect Gerri & Sweat to be starting at DE. Chauncey will play a ton.

[Bully13]

I expect Gerri & Sweat to be starting at DE. Chauncey will play a ton.

damn. getting wooly. sounds like we've got enough solid depth to keep fresh legs in for 4 quarters.

[Bully13]

Found this blast from the past USA Today sports nugget. How Dan Muffins went hard after Guidry, Heath and Dolla Bill. strike 3 bitch. I really want to curb stomp the gators this year.

http://sports.usatoday.com/2017/11/28/dan-mullen-florida-going-after-mississippi-states-best-recruits/

[msstate7]

I expect Gerri & Sweat to be starting at DE. Chauncey will play a ton.

So rivers is inside? For some reason, I thought he was an end

[SmokeyDawg]

So rivers is inside? For some reason, I thought he was an end

Rivers is an end. I think he means that if he doesn’t start he will be the next guy on the field.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Rivers is an end. I think he means that if he doesn’t start he will be the next guy on the field.

This

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don't know if I would call 2019 a rebuild year or not. It's pretty rare for us to return as much as we are in 2018- the most returning starters in my fan lifetime with obvious upgrades at WR.

But we have:

QB- Key- four star QB who has some starting experience and I think Moorhead will use him a lot like Penn State used Tommy Stephens the back-up at Penn State last year. It will be his first year as a starter, but I think he will have a lot of playing experience.
RB- Kylin- I think he is a special player for us and busts out this year.
WR- Guidry, Todd, Heath, Couch as the outside guys and they will all be upper classmen except for Heath who I think will be a solid starter for us at worst and has a chance to be a special player also. Whop I think has a chance to be special as well.
Slot- Whop, Deddrick Thomas, and Dear all come back. I'm interested to see how we use Dear as I consider him more of an ATH like a Percy Harvin than a true slot WR. Thomas is a veteran and Whop and Key go way back. Austin Williams will be a good player for us also.
TE- Farrod will be a senior. If I am MSU I might consider bulking up Williams and using him as a TE/WR/H-Back to get him on the field more.
OL- We need to find a center. I think we need to move Reese to guard at some point as well. If it were me I would go LT- Eiland, LG- Reese, C- Story who has played some but has had injuries, RG- Williams, RT- Champion. That's a line with two juniors and three seniors on it. I think Tyre Phillips and maybe even Dolla Bill could start as well. I noticed that we moved a walk-on Matt Stanic to center recently and he is a big dude. Maybe he becomes the next Ben Beckwith except at center.

DL- Kind of depends on if Rivers comes back and Simmons as well although I don't expect Simmons to return for his senior year. Spencer, Kobe, and Adams have all played and will be upperclassmen. Autry will have playing experience by this time next year as well. We obviously won't have the depth that we do now but I like Aaron Odom, Fabien Lovett, Jaden Crumedy, James Jackson, and Devon Robinson.
LB- Leo, Erroll, and Willie Gay is a very good group of linebackers and all three will be upperclassmen. Washington is a solid role player and we'll see what Kilby-Lane brings to the table. I like Jett Johnson as a player too and I think he will help us with depth next year as a redshirt freshman.
CB- Love Dantzler and he will be a junior. The other spot is a question mark- Marcus Murphy? JUCO CB? Brian Cole? I'd have to guess that Tyler Williams is the favorite at the moment.
S- This group actually concerns me more than the DL or CB at the moment which is early. My guess at the moment is Brian Cole and Marcus Murphy. I do like Landon Guidry a lot but I'm not sure he starts in 2019. If we can flip Brandon Turnage I think he would have a very good chance of starting.

K- Christmann
P- Schexnader
KO- ???
KR/PR- Mixon and Thomas

On paper this looks like a good team but we'll see how next goes and see what intangibles they have to deal with.

Austin Williams is not going to get big enough to play TE or H-back. Thats the biggest reason he redshirted is bc he is skinny.

He has had a standout spring so far and wouldnt surprise me if he has a nice year. Been one of the most consistent WRs so far

[ShotgunDawg]

Black just committed to OM.

What going on here?

I thought he was about back in our boat

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaOD1whXUAAfW6s.jpg

[starkvegasdawg]

Guess that massive grove bowl crowd swayed him.

[Todd4State]

When you have tens of people chanting your name all bets are off.

[ScoobaDawg]

It's April.. And they just had their spring game. He saw how much they need him.

Let's not freak out yet about any recruit...

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Just another twist of the 2019 MSU roller coaster ride. Like we've been saying it won't be for the faint of heart. Going to be a lot of ups & downs twists & turns. This is just the latest.

[msstate7]

When black was coming here, OM folks said no way black would get eligible. When black trended OM, state people said the same. When both sides say the same thing, it is most likely true. Gotta figure black is good for recruiting rankings, but not gonna help either team for at least 3 more years.

[preachermatt83]

I've said it 100 times.. I'm from forest originally, I know his parents, graduated with them, and know his "handlers", as well as some of his teachers and I am telling you now he will be very lucky to graduate with a diploma that's not "special"... he will in no capacity come close to qualifying regardless of who he's committed too

[Uncle Ruckus]

Are you really a preacher? You continuously ride this kid, say he may get a “special” degree, and you make fun of our players. If you or you intel know wtf they were talking about you’d know you just can’t up and decide to not get a regular diploma by your senior year. You’re making fun of a kid by saying he be “special”. You’re a creep

[Bully13]

Are you really a preacher? You continuously ride this kid, say he may get a “special” degree, and you make fun of our players. If you or you intel know wtf they were talking about you’d know you just can’t up and decide to not get a regular diploma by your senior year. You’re making fun of a kid by saying he be “special”. You’re a creep

that post is out of line. YOU are the creep sir.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Are you really a preacher? You continuously ride this kid, say he may get a “special” degree, and you make fun of our players. If you or you intel know wtf they were talking about you’d know you just can’t up and decide to not get a regular diploma by your senior year. You’re making fun of a kid by saying he be “special”. You’re a creep

Uncle Ruckus is really funny but this post isnt

[Uncle Ruckus]

This wasn’t supposed to be funny. I want to know how someone who claims to be a preacher posts the stuff he does. Every time someone mentions Black he has to ride him down and say he won’t even graduate. Now he says he is “special”.

[BeardoMSU]

Now he says he is “special”.

He may have not meant it that way, but I agree that the perception of riding the kid down because he committed to OM (just like they do when a player commits to us; e.g., Leo) is pretty damn weak, and to be honest, feels like straight propaganda. But hey, it's 'cruitin' season.

[msstate7]

He may have not meant it that way, but I agree that the perception of riding the kid down because he committed to OM (just like they do when a player commits to us; e.g., Leo) is pretty damn weak, and to be honest, feels like straight propaganda. But hey, it's 'cruitin' season.

To be fair to preacher, he said black would not qualify when black was committed to us. Preacher has been adamant

[JDog13]

Yanci has posted multiple times that Black wont be able to get his diploma this coming year. Black commits to them today, and Yanci has posted that Black has been taking quote - side classes and will be on course to graduate on time. Its hilarious.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Oh, he meant it that way. He says had disparaging comments about Black for months. Now he says he may get a special ed certificate. This guy had no idea what he’s talking about and he’s running a kid through the mud in hopes of building his internet cred. And he’s supposed to be a preacher. Preachers I know wouldn’t talk down about a kids private academic issues for hundreds of people to see so it will make them seem like they are in the know

[preachermatt83]

To be fair to preacher, he said black would not qualify when black was committed to us. Preacher has been adamant

You are correct sir. Said it adamantly the day he committed to us.

[preachermatt83]

Oh, he meant it that way. He says had disparaging comments about Black for months. Now he says he may get a special ed certificate. This guy had no idea what he?s talking about and he?s running a kid through the mud in hopes of building his internet cred. And he?s supposed to be a preacher. Preachers I know wouldn?t talk down about a kids private academic issues for hundreds of people to see so it will make them seem like they are in the know

Go back to six pack you jerk. I don't have to speculate anything. I know the kid And even if he were to qualify by some miracle, I still wouldn't want him. If you knew him you wouldn't want him either. I don't want him within a million miles of our program. Now if you have got something else to say shoot me a pm and we can discuss the best way to handle your issue.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Nah, I’m good talking on here. And I will every time I see you drag a kids name through the mud or give some demeaning nickname to one of our players.

[BeardoMSU]

Go back to six pack you jerk. I don't have to speculate anything. I know the kid And even if he were to qualify by some miracle, I still wouldn't want him. If you knew him you wouldn't want him either. I don't want him within a million miles of our program. Now if you have got something else to say shoot me a pm and we can discuss the best way to handle your issue.

Hmm....it's interesting your approach for defending C34 is.....

Or perhaps said preacher had rather extend mercy as opposed to judgement

but when it comes to a teenager with probably quite a lot on his plate, it's...

https://media.giphy.com/media/nzwaC2k0LevgA/giphy.gif

Fascinating...

[Bulldog1]

Nah, I’m good talking on here. And I will every time I see you drag a kids name through the mud or give some demeaning nickname to one of our players.

Examples please?

[Uncle Ruckus]

For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use it, it will be measured to you

[Uncle Ruckus]

Examples please?
How about foambat?

[Bulldog1]

How about foambat?

He didn’t come up with that.

[preachermatt83]

He didn’t come up with that.

Thanks man but your wasting time trying to reason with that clown. He's a sps that's here for one purpose... to cause trouble.

[preachermatt83]

Nah, I’m good talking on here. And I will every time I see you drag a kids name through the mud or give some demeaning nickname to one of our players.

Exactly what I expected

[Irondawg]

I kinda get the feeling this is going back to what OM did under O a lot and that was try to convince highly ranked, but high risk academic guys that they had the best plan to get the eligible. Sometimes it worked. Maybe that?s in play here and maybe it?s not.

[BeardoMSU]

Exactly what I expected

Hmm...

Or perhaps said preacher had rather extend mercy as opposed to judgement

[BeardoMSU]

Yeah, I'd ignore me too in this situation**

[Bothrops]

Black has the one thing the sharklets want, and that's a high star ranking. He doesn't have to get in, they want recruiting class ranking prowess. It's quite sad to be honest.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Shay Hodge doing work. He'll have a big influence on the Ms 7 on 7 team members.

[Ari Gold]

Recruiting thread...!!!! Go have ur pillow fights on another thread.
Just like IYOK and I said this will be a roller coaster 2019 class and we will do just fine..

[Leroy Jenkins]

Recruiting thread...!!!! Go have ur pillow fights on another thread.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlGsmOxGDnsmFH2/giphy.gif


https://media.giphy.com/media/Orar9Tsxj7IsM/giphy.gif

[Bully13]

Hmm....it's interesting your approach for defending C34 is.....


but when it comes to a teenager with probably quite a lot on his plate, it's...

https://media.giphy.com/media/nzwaC2k0LevgA/giphy.gif

Fascinating...

there's a difference between forgiving someone for trolling us with "IT" than telling what he truly believes regarding the croot.

[BeardoMSU]

Recruiting thread...!!!!

You're right. Apologies.

[MetEdDawg]

Black has the one thing the sharklets want, and that's a high star ranking. He doesn't have to get in, they want recruiting class ranking prowess. It's quite sad to be honest.

I hope they go that route and sign a ton of players that don’t make it to campus. If they do that they are basically self punishing because you can only sign 25 period. So if they sign 25 and only 20 make it to campus, that plan will put them at averaging 80 total players over a 4 year period. With attrition that would put them somewhere between 70-75. They got 21 last year. If they only get 20 on campus this year that puts them at 41 players over 2 years.

So let’s encourage this get people committed that won’t make it to campus. It’s a sure fire way to kill your program.

[drummerdawg]

This guy just decommitted from Georgia. We should give him a look. Need some OL

https://247sports.com/Player/Luke-Griffin-91989

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I hope they go that route and sign a ton of players that don?t make it to campus. If they do that they are basically self punishing because you can only sign 25 period. So if they sign 25 and only 20 make it to campus, that plan will put them at averaging 80 total players over a 4 year period. With attrition that would put them somewhere between 70-75. They got 21 last year. If they only get 20 on campus this year that puts them at 41 players over 2 years.

So let?s encourage this get people committed that won?t make it to campus. It?s a sure fire way to kill your program.

I think their plan is simple. Get lots of commits, even if they won't qualify. For instance, they are now touting that their recruiting class is ranked #2 nationally. They believe the ranking helps the recruiting momentum. They may wind up with 30-35 commits. Then you back off last minute and only sign the allowed 25 that can get in. While the recruiting class might end up ranked #42, they will have enjoyed the months in the top 10, and will have tried to use that top 10 ranking in their recruiting pitches.

This is going to be a bumpy ride, with people melting about every twitter post, every commit and decommit, etc. Just relax and watch and it will all be fine. Our class will be far superior to the Ole Miss class.

Yancy is already touting "the current #2 class in the nation". Anybody who follows this stuff knows that recruiting rankings are bullcrap at this point, because 10 commits that are 2 stars will outrank 2 commits that are 5 stars. It's in the numbers.

As of this moment, Miami of Ohio has a class ranked higher than Ohio State. That's because Miami of Ohio has 8 recruits (average 79.32) and Ohio State has 3 recruits (average 93.34). We know it won't stay that way.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Shay Hodge doing work. He'll have a big influence on the Ms 7 on 7 team members.

Jon Banks coaches on that same team.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

This guy just decommitted from Georgia. We should give him a look. Need some OL

https://247sports.com/Player/Luke-Griffin-91989

He's suffered 2 ACL's in 3yrs I'm sure that has played a part in his recruitment.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Jerrion Ealy and Black are both unlikely to ever play for OM. They are their top 2 commits right now.

[Bothrops]

Jerrion Ealy won't play for OM unless he quits baseball.

[ShotgunDawg]

Jerrion Ealy won't play for OM unless he quits baseball.

Hmmm. I know you don't want to hear this, but I'm not sure he's that good at baseball.

I honestly see another Senquez Golson situation

[ShotgunDawg]

This is pretty funny.

Honestly, while it's clearly smoke & mirrors with 12 commits & an average rating of 87, it was a pretty good idea by them to create buzz & attempt to bring credibility to an uncredible situation. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the end.

https://i.imgur.com/s6x8fZK.jpg

[BeardoMSU]

This is pretty funny.

Honestly, while it's clearly smoke & mirrors with 12 commits & an average rating of 87, it was a pretty good idea by them to create buzz & attempt to bring credibility to an uncredible situation. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the end.

https://i.imgur.com/s6x8fZK.jpg

Lol. That's hilarious.

[Bulldog1]

This is pretty funny.

Honestly, while it's clearly smoke & mirrors with 12 commits & an average rating of 87, it was a pretty good idea by them to create buzz & attempt to bring credibility to an uncredible situation. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the end.

https://i.imgur.com/s6x8fZK.jpg
That is pretty funny.

[msstate7]

This is pretty funny.

Honestly, while it's clearly smoke & mirrors with 12 commits & an average rating of 87, it was a pretty good idea by them to create buzz & attempt to bring credibility to an uncredible situation. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out in the end.

https://i.imgur.com/s6x8fZK.jpg

What a clown. Look at Georgia avg per recruit... it is historically high. Georgia cut a 4-star

[BuckyIsAB****]

Hmmm. I know you don't want to hear this, but I'm not sure he's that good at baseball.

I honestly see another Senquez Golson situation

Uhh...hes good at baseball. I watched him hit one out of Brandons stadium

[msbulldog]

From Nafoom:

"Nice work, preachermatt...Black is now aware that you've been flapping your gums about his grades on ED. You might delete your post, but screenshots never die."

[ShotgunDawg]

Uhh...hes good at baseball. I watched him hit one out of Brandons stadium

Massive difference between being good at baseball and getting 1.5+ million in the draft.

That being said, you may be right. It’s just no as slam of a dunk as some want to believe.

[ShotgunDawg]

From Nafoom:

"Nice work, preachermatt...Black is now aware that you've been flapping your gums about his grades on ED. You might delete your post, but screenshots never die."

And Yancy flapped his gums. The double standard being applied here is ridiculous.

[Bully13]

what about the screen shots on Yancy prior to the "flip"?

[Bulldog1]

Somebody show this to those folks at nafoom. https://s7.postimg.org/805f0nhrf/CC4_EE418-_C816-4_E18-_A492-_CF6698_CCEE07.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/pdfpfid2f/)

[bostondawg]

Look, I don't care what Yancy or Nafoom says. Whatever those things are, Diwun Black didn't quote them. At the end of the day, Diwun quoted preachermatt (and a few others) talking trash about him. That's absolutely unacceptable and makes us look like trash.

Below is the tweet that Diwun quoted.

https://snag.gy/0POR8r.jpg

[BeardoMSU]

Look, I don't care what Yancy or Nafoom says. Whatever those things are, Diwun Black didn't quote them. At the end of the day, Diwun quoted preachermatt (and a few others) talking trash about him. That's absolutely unacceptable and makes us look like trash.

Below is the tweet that Diwun quoted.

https://snag.gy/0POR8r.jpg

Yeah, this is pretty egregious, and I definitely made a point to call him on it when he posted it.

[Bully13]

Not sure why Preach is getting slammed while fancy gets a pass though. fancy said he'd need to get his GED then go Juco not too long back. that would indeed be a "special" H.S. degree.

[bostondawg]

Not sure why Preach is getting slammed while fancy gets a pass though. fancy said he'd need to get his GED then go Juco not too long back. that would indeed be a "special" H.S. degree.

I think it's because we have no control over fancy. He isn't on our board.

And, more importantly, Diwun didn't quote Yancy. He quoted preacher. If Yancy's trash talking a recruit was quoted by said recruit, I'd laugh at OM. And if the posters on the spirit had any backbone, they'd slam Yancy for it.

[Bully13]

I think it's because we have no control over fancy. He isn't on our board.

And, more importantly, Diwun didn't quote Yancy. He quoted preacher. If Yancy's trash talking a recruit was quoted by said recruit, I'd laugh at OM. And if the posters on the spirit had any backbone, they'd slam Yancy for it.

I can dig that and I here you. I guess the timing of the "flip" didn't help either regarding how it's playing out. It's weird though how one single post on the internet and D.Black chalks that up to our entire university as us hating on him or something.

[BeardoMSU]

Not sure why Preach is getting slammed while fancy gets a pass though. fancy said he'd need to get his GED then go Juco not too long back. that would indeed be a "special" H.S. degree.

He's not getting a pass, at least from us on this board. But regardless of how stupid Yancy is, we don't need posters here matching him in retardation. Matt needs to STFU.

[bostondawg]

I can dig that and I here you. I guess the timing of the "flip" didn't help either regarding how it's playing out. It's weird though how one single post on the internet and D.Black chalks that up to our entire university as us hating on him or something.

Yep. It's not fair. But it only takes one idiot to ruin our PR.

[msbulldog]

We should not talk bad about a potential recruits grades or anything else. We are trying to enroll these guys.

[BeardoMSU]

We should not talk bad about a potential recruits grades or anything else. We are trying to enroll these guys.

No shit. It's beyond stupid. That's why the recruiting threads should probably be private, just like the poly board. That, or there is zero tolerance for dumbassery, like the example Preach just exhibited.

[msbulldog]

No shit. It's beyond stupid. That's why the recruiting threads should probably be private, just like the poly board. That, or there is zero tolerance for dumbassery, like the example Preach just exhibited.

Thank you.

[yjnkdawg]

Yep. It's not fair. But it only takes one idiot to ruin our PR.



Seems like more so on this board now, there appears to be several who want to be the first to post something whether is it is good or bad (usually negative) concerning our athletic programs, but they normally don't have all the facts, nor do they think before they post.

[yjnkdawg]

No shit. It's beyond stupid. That's why the recruiting threads should probably be private, just like the poly board. That, or there is zero tolerance for dumbassery, like the example Preach just exhibited.


Totally Agree 100%

[msbulldog]

Seems like more so on this board now, there appears to be several who want to be the first to post something whether is it is good or bad (usually negative) concerning our athletic programs, but they normally don't have all the facts, nor do they think before they post.

Rep given.

[yjnkdawg]

Not sure why Preach is getting slammed while fancy gets a pass though. fancy said he'd need to get his GED then go Juco not too long back. that would indeed be a "special" H.S. degree.


Because our coaches are trying to recruit kids to come to MSU, and they don't need to have to overcome obstacles created by keyboard cowboys speculating or wanting to be first at posting something. Then some of these same posters bitch about our recruiting. Well posting negative things about kids we are recruiting has no negative ramifications, huh?

[Bully13]

maybe it's time we start using tsun tactics then. start cutting and pasting fancy's shit and tweet it to the croots. hell, he's a spokesperson of some sort with tsun. that would be a starter. then let's go to the shit bird boards and start cutting and pasting their negative shit too. tweet it to the croots.

why not play their game?

[Bulldog1]

No shit. It's beyond stupid. That's why the recruiting threads should probably be private, just like the poly board. That, or there is zero tolerance for dumbassery, like the example Preach just exhibited.

Definitely wouldn’t hurt.

[yjnkdawg]

We should not talk bad about a potential recruits grades or anything else. We are trying to enroll these guys.


I hope some who need to read this post will read and follow this, but I'm not holding my breath on that ...........Rep given

[msbulldog]

This is a free board. People from nafoom read it and surely recruits read it. Let's be positive, guys! Hail State!

[msbulldog]

maybe it's time we start using tsun tactics then. start cutting and pasting fancy's shit and tweet it to the croots. hell, he's a spokesperson of some sort with tsun. that would be a starter. then let's go to the shit bird boards and start cutting and pasting their negative shit too. tweet it to the croots.

why not play their game?

Should we lower ourselves to tsun's sub-standards? I think not!! 1st thing do not tweet a 16 or 17 year old. If you do and you don't know them you are a pervert! Let the coaches do their job and recruit! If you tweet recruits you are probably close to a NCAA violation. Just post positive on this board and let the people that are being paid to recruit do their job. It definitely is not your job.

[yjnkdawg]

Should we lower ourselves to tsun's sub-standards? I think not!! 1st thing do not tweet a 16 or 17 year old. If you do and you don't know them you are a pervert! Let the coaches do their job and recruit! If you tweet recruits you are probably close to a NCAA violation. Just post positive on this board and let the people that are being paid to recruit do their job. It definitely is not your job.


Excellent Post....Another Rep Given

[Bully13]

Should we lower ourselves to tsun's sub-standards? I think not!! 1st thing do not tweet a 16 or 17 year old. If you do and you don't know them you are a pervert! Let the coaches do their job and recruit! If you tweet recruits you are probably close to a NCAA violation. Just post positive on this board and let the people that are being paid to recruit do their job. It definitely is not your job.

yea like shitbird fans tweeting croots has really killed them. right? these players eat the shit up. shit bird fans know this. shit bird nation is rolling our asses in this arena. time for us to keep up. close to a NCAA violation? nope.

[ShotgunDawg]

Ole Miss just got a commitment from a Brandon HS kid I’ve never heard of. Stanley?

Are they really gonna sign some of these guys?

[maroonmania]

maybe it's time we start using tsun tactics then. start cutting and pasting fancy's shit and tweet it to the croots. hell, he's a spokesperson of some sort with tsun. that would be a starter. then let's go to the shit bird boards and start cutting and pasting their negative shit too. tweet it to the croots.

why not play their game?

Well if we want to fight fire with fire we DO need to have people assigned to finding stupid posts from Yancy and others and send it directly to recruits. That is what happened here. Black only even knew about this post because the Rebs have people whose job it is to find this kind of stuff and put it right in the face of the recruit being discussed.