2019 Recruiting Thread

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If this staff doesn't get a legit RB in this class could Marcus Murphy make the switch?

No

[Tripp McNeely]

If this staff doesn't get a legit RB in this class could Marcus Murphy make the switch?

Marcus might be starting at safety next year

[Hambone]

I remember many on this board mocking Florida....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I remember many on this board mocking Florida....

??? Did something happen?

[DeputyDawg94]

Marcus might be starting at safety next year

You are probably right about that. But in the event we don't sign a quality back it seems like he would be a good option if the move didn't hurt the D.

[Bdawg]

Witherspoon is a 10.8 100M, so he can go.

That's fast, but not blazing. I figured it would be a little better judging by his video. He runs off and leaves people on the field.

[Todd4State]

You are probably right about that. But in the event we don't sign a quality back it seems like he would be a good option if the move didn't hurt the D.

I bet we end up with Witherspoon. If not I think if it were me I would just sign two in the next class. I don't think we'll have to do that.

[Todd4State]

That's fast, but not blazing. I figured it would be a little better judging by his video. He runs off and leaves people on the field.

He could be like Jerry Rice and have "game speed".

[yjnkdawg]

I bet we end up with Witherspoon. If not I think if it were me I would just sign two in the next class. I don't think we'll have to do that.



I thought we still had a possible shot at still getting Eric Gray, as well. Maybe I missed something?

[Cooterpoot]

That's fast, but not blazing. I figured it would be a little better judging by his video. He runs off and leaves people on the field.

Kylin Hill ran an 11.4 in HS, to give you some perspective.

[Cooterpoot]

I thought we still had a possible shot at still getting Eric Gray, as well. Maybe I missed something?

Not happening.

[ShotgunDawg]

I thought we still had a possible shot at still getting Eric Gray, as well. Maybe I missed something?

He's a Byron DeVinner client.

Happens every year with that guy and most end up at UT

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Who else is with DeVinner? Nakobe Dean?

[Bully13]

He's a Byron DeVinner client.

Happens every year with that guy and most end up at UT

Byron. Still remember him getting those blow jobs in the grove after he 17'd us. Bo blew him on the radio too , right?

BTW, what was that guy's name that ended up playing for us after having to sit out? did he make it to the league?

[msstate7]

Kylin Hill ran an 11.4 in HS, to give you some perspective.

I'm sure there's a less important measurable for a rb than 100 m time, but it's pretty far down there

[ShotgunDawg]

Who else is with DeVinner? Nakobe Dean?

Not sure. Good question though.

Moorhead needs to repair that relationship because the guys has been a thorn in our side.

He's the reason we lost the Cordova OL last year.

[Commercecomet24]

Kylin Hill ran an 11.4 in HS, to give you some perspective.

So he's .6 seconds faster than Kylin over 110 yards(100m), I would say that's "game breaking" speed lol. If he can outrun Kylin I would have to say I consider that "blazing". Good stuff, Cooter.

[ShotgunDawg]

So he's .6 seconds faster than Kylin over 110 yards(100m), I would say that's "game breaking" speed lol. If he can outrun Kylin I would have to say I consider that "blazing". Good stuff, Cooter.

Kylin has better feet and more agility. Which 90% of the time is more important

[Commercecomet24]

Kylin has better feet and more agility. Which 90% of the time is more important

Oh I agree on that, I was just relating it strictly to speed.

[1bigdawg]

Kylin has better feet and more agility. Which 90% of the time is more important

Does he? Weatherspoon's video looks pretty good...

[Doggie_Style]

The Witherspoon kid is playing lower competition but lets not act like 4A Bama HS ball is like Pillow academy or somn like that. That kid can flat out fly

This kid is a project at best....he will need a red-shirt year just to learn the position. If things don't work out he could move to DB. It's a sad commentary that that's where we are with RB recruiting but it is what it is. Next year we will have to get by with Hill/Gibson/Rivers(walk-on), hopefully we can do better in 2020.

[msu15]

This kid is a project at best....he will need a red-shirt year just to learn the position. If things don't work out he could move to DB. It's a sad commentary that that's where we are with RB recruiting but it is what it is. Next year we will have to get by with Hill/Gibson/Rivers(walk-on), hopefully we can do better in 2020.

I don't think that a rotation of Kylin Hill and Nick Gibson next year is properly assessed with the phrase "getting by".

[Doggie_Style]

I don't think that a rotation of Kylin Hill and Nick Gibson next year is properly assessed with the phrase "getting by".

yea your probably right, it's not like anyone ever gets hurt playing football***

[Pit Bull]

That's fast, but not blazing. I figured it would be a little better judging by his video. He runs off and leaves people on the field.

Dante Walker ran a 10.3 100M.....now that was flying! Not sure, but he may still be in jail or dead....anyone know?

[msbulldog]

Byron. Still remember him getting those blow jobs in the grove after he 17'd us. Bo blew him on the radio too , right?

BTW, what was that guy's name that ended up playing for us after having to sit out? did he make it to the league?

Will Redmond drafted 3rd rd by 49'ers in 2016 waived by KC in Sept. 2018.

[Cooterpoot]

Dante Walker didn't run a real 10.3. That's Dion Sanders speed (10.26). Bo Jackson was a 10.39. But, to give you an idea of the difference in what the wind can do for you, Adrian Peterson ran a 10.56 laser indoors. Outdoors his best time was 10.19. So we're pretty much splitting hairs here.

[msu15]

yea your probably right, it's not like anyone ever gets hurt playing football***

Lol, not even going to debate this. You've proven you're superiority***

[Bothrops]

That's fast, but not blazing. I figured it would be a little better judging by his video. He runs off and leaves people on the field.

Here's some perspective based on speed alone -

Saquon Barkley ran a 10.74 100m.

Derrius Guice ran a 10.9 100m. Guice also ran a 4.49 40 at the NFL combine

Witherspoon would certainly be the fastest RB we've had since Vick Ballard.

[msstate7]

Here's some perspective based on speed alone -

Saquon Barkley ran a 10.74 100m.

Derrius Guice ran a 10.9 100m. Guice also ran a 4.49 40 at the NFL combine

Witherspoon would certainly be the fastest RB we've had since Vick Ballard.

I think Holloway is faster than Ballard

[DawgNamedScuba]

But Ballard could run the middle....

[Commercecomet24]

It sounds like the evidence is overwhelming, Witherspoon can fly!

[Lord McBuckethead]

But Ballard could run the middle....

Holloway could, just probably not the best use. I wish more of our players were pound for pound as tough and fearless as that dude.

[bulldawg28]

I think Holloway is faster than Ballard

Or Ladarius Perkins

[Bully13]

But Ballard could run the middle....

According to Mike Leach, Ballard could do more than just run the middle. "I really like the way Ballard just POUNDS THAT THING!"

[Leroy Jenkins]

Witherspoon would certainly be the fastest RB we've had since Vick Ballard.

Every RB we have (except Lee) is faster than Ballard, who was a 4.65, and Vic very rarely got caught.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhzmmh5KNPc

[Bothrops]

I think Holloway is faster than Ballard

I never considered Holloway a RB. And it would have been close. Ballard once ran a sub 4.5 at a track meet, may have been while in juco. He added bulk at MSU but still had breakaway speed.

[Bothrops]

Every RB we have (except Lee) is faster than Ballard

No.

[msudawglb]

Ok, we?ve covered RB speeds. Let?s get it back to Recruiting talk.

[Bully13]

Ok, we?ve covered RB speeds. Let?s get it back to Recruiting talk.

Here HERE! Let's Have Order!

https://i.postimg.cc/6qGfK0W6/Judge.jpg

[msstate7]

Ok, we?ve covered RB speeds. Let?s get it back to Recruiting talk.

There's nothing to talk about.

[ZedFedder]

How are we looking wth Derrick Hall? Saw a Rivals national article where they predicted us to land him, though I believe AU has been thought to be in the lead.

[Bully13]

How are we looking wth Derrick Hall? Saw a Rivals national article where they predicted us to land him, though I believe AU has been thought to be in the lead.

After Sat Night, that shit should be settled.

[maroonmania]

I never considered Holloway a RB. And it would have been close. Ballard once ran a sub 4.5 at a track meet, may have been while in juco. He added bulk at MSU but still had breakaway speed.

Now Ballard was a dude with real "game speed". I don't really care what he was timed in for the 40 or the 100m, all I know is he never got run down from behind. Been quite a while since we've had a RB that could break 50+ yard runs for TDs like Ballard. Went out with a bang to in the Music City Bowl. Really hate he got hurt after winning the starting RB job with the Colts.

[Bully13]

Ballard Pounded that thang and then got paid . Time to move on to crootin'.

[Bdawg]

So he's .6 seconds faster than Kylin over 110 yards(100m), I would say that's "game breaking" speed lol. If he can outrun Kylin I would have to say I consider that "blazing". Good stuff, Cooter.

I don't know. I ran a 10.90 100m in high school and most public school times were usually better than that. Guess that's why I say not blazing. Maybe I expected more the way he was leaving those other guys behind. I also thought I heard on the AU game that one of their receivers ran a 10.0 or 10.1. Now that is smoking!!

[Bdawg]

Sorry bout be speed topic just replying to my post from earlier. Didn't get memo to move till after I read more down the page.

So ... somebody give us some good recruiting news.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

There's nothing to talk about.

Is there a quota we have to meet on the recruiting board everyday? How about just don't say anything if there is nothing to say.

[msstate7]

Is there a quota we have to meet on the recruiting board everyday? How about just don't say anything if there is nothing to say.

The only prospect getting any air time here is the speedster running back. Since speed is his greatest attribute, speed became the topic of the day. Personally, I'd prefer the slower, higher rated gray... guess it isn't happening though

ETA... I don't really care what's put in this thread. Anything worth reading will be covered by hitting the last page button. For instance, if there were any news worth a crap, there will posts referencing it. Since there was nothing today, last page is rb 100m time

[Cooterpoot]

Is there a quota we have to meet on the recruiting board everyday? How about just don't say anything if there is nothing to say.

Some people complain when they get information. Some complain when they don't. Some, like you, just complain. Stop being a *****.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Jarrian Jones recruiting anyone heavy right now?

Tem Lukabu is doing a good job connecting with players of his origin. Several top prospects on our target list popping up prob attributed to him.

The only glaring need for 2019 that I see is RB. Hill/Gibson/walk-on is not enough for next season (fearing injury). Is there not a 6-1 220 juco Rb out there that could get tough yards as our 3rd back?

[Shooter McGavin]

I wish we were recruiting Dontario Drummond from EMCC. He can play.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I wish we were recruiting Dontario Drummond from EMCC. He can play.

We are

[Todd4State]

Jarrian Jones recruiting anyone heavy right now?

Tem Lukabu is doing a good job connecting with players of his origin. Several top prospects on our target list popping up prob attributed to him.

The only glaring need for 2019 that I see is RB. Hill/Gibson/walk-on is not enough for next season (fearing injury). Is there not a 6-1 220 juco Rb out there that could get tough yards as our 3rd back?

I feel like we'll get Witherspoon and he will end up being either an underrated three star guy that becomes a really good SEC RB or he blows up and become a low four star guy. Joe uses one RB so that may help with the injury risk some.

[Todd4State]

We are

How many more players can we sign in the class? More than 25?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

How many more players can we sign in the class? More than 25?

I think around 24-25. Only way over 25 is if we have a flood of guys leave after the bowl game.

[Doggie_Style]

I think around 24-25. Only way over 25 is if we have a flood of guys leave after the bowl game.

I bet we don't sign more than 20 in December...hopefully we can find a few more later on

[Bully13]

I think around 24-25. Only way over 25 is if we have a flood of guys leave after the bowl game.

these #'s worry me unless we have some flips. We've never been a bag man flipper like tsun though. that's why the #'s worry me. no need to fill the basket just cuz. Save 'em for next year. Please no last minute CA JUCO OL's.

[Todd4State]

I think around 24-25. Only way over 25 is if we have a flood of guys leave after the bowl game.

I would think it would be possible that we have a few guys leave after the bowl game though.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Alright guys, time for some people to get in the boat. It's been what 3 months since our last commitment.

[Bully13]

Alright guys, time for some people to get in the boat. It's been what 3 months since our last commitment.

Not an unreasonable request. Let's see how last Saturday shakes out for the good. Thanks for the drought update Bucket.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Some people complain when they get information. Some complain when they don't. Some, like you, just complain. Stop being a *****.

Complaining? You call this complaining? Ok

[Cooterpoot]

I think Peters is he next guy that commits. He's close.

[Bothrops]

I think Peters is he next guy that commits. He's close.

Agree

[msstate7]

I think Peters is he next guy that commits. He's close.

Looks like he'd be a good get

[Bothrops]

Looks like he'd be a good get

I think so. Weird things can happen with jucos but it looks like Peters and Drummond could give us immediate help.

[msstate7]

I think so. Weird things can happen with jucos but it looks like Peters and Drummond could give us immediate help.

I'm more worried about LOS play next season. Sharp is a good start, but I'd like a juco dlineman or 2

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'm more worried about LOS play next season. Sharp is a good start, but I'd like a juco dlineman or 2

Where is the Juco DL going to play between Kobe, Adams, Spencer, Rivers, Autry, Jackson, Lovett, Crumedy, Moore, & Pickering? We don't exactly have a roster that says P/T for a juco DL.

[Commercecomet24]

Where is the Juco DL going to play between Kobe, Adams, Spencer, Rivers, Autry, Jackson, Lovett, Crumedy, Moore, & Pickering? We don't exactly have a roster that says P/T for a juco DL.

Yeah that's 10 quality DL. Not sure jucos gonna look at that and wanna climb aboard lol

[msstate7]

Where is the Juco DL going to play between Kobe, Adams, Spencer, Rivers, Autry, Jackson, Lovett, Crumedy, Moore, & Pickering? We don't exactly have a roster that says P/T for a juco DL.

There's actually more production from that group that than I thought... 39 tackles, 8.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks. Most of the production is from Kobe, fletcher, and rivers who are more DE. I still think we could use a good juco DT

[Matt3467]

Sorry if I'm beating an old drum, but how come Nakobe Dean isn't at least entertaining MSU? No visit or anything. Seems like when we have blue chip players come through the state they never look at us. He's been to TSUN.... just odd.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Sorry if I'm beating an old drum, but how come Nakobe Dean isn't at least entertaining MSU? No visit or anything. Seems like when we have blue chip players come through the state they never look at us. He's been to TSUN.... just odd.

He was just at MSU 2 weeks ago. We're not getting him but he's been on campus multiple times since the spring.

[Cowbell]

He was just at MSU 2 weeks ago. We're not getting him but he's been on campus multiple times since the spring.

Any thoughts on where he lands?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Any thoughts on where he lands?

UGA my guess

[Bully13]

I think Peters is he next guy that commits. He's close.

First Name?

[Cooterpoot]

Fred Peters, S, JC

[BhamDawg205]

Would be a nice addition to our WR corps... He being a Penn State commit, wonder if any of our current staff has a relationship with he. Was hot on Penn State, because of JoMo's offense. Plus we're closer
https://247sports.com/player/john-dunmore-94688/

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Would be a nice addition to our WR corps... He being a Penn State commit, wonder if any of our current staff has a relationship with he. Was hot on Penn State, because of JoMo's offense. Plus we're closer
https://247sports.com/player/john-dunmore-94688/

Penn St offered him 2 months after JoeMo left. I doubt there's much of a connection with the staff. Even it was he went through the process & still chose Penn St over all the SEC & ACC schools in the area.

ETA: his connection is their RB coach Seider who Mullen let go. They had a great relationship when he was at Florida & he was the catalyst for the Penn St staff.

[Commercecomet24]

Penn St offered him 2 months after JoeMo left. I doubt there's much of a connection with the staff. Even it was he went through the process & still chose Penn St over all the SEC & ACC schools in the area.

ETA: his connection is their RB coach Seider who Mullen let go. They had a great relationship when he was at Florida & he was the catalyst for the Penn St staff.

Why'd you let seider go?******

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Why'd you let seider go?******

He recruited too hard.

[Commercecomet24]

He recruited too hard.

lmbo!!!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Ifyouonlyknew again.

[Cooterpoot]

Peters had a pick and 6 tackles last night. Almost took the pick to the house.

[smootness]

Penn St offered him 2 months after JoeMo left. I doubt there's much of a connection with the staff. Even it was he went through the process & still chose Penn St over all the SEC & ACC schools in the area.

ETA: his connection is their RB coach Seider who Mullen let go. They had a great relationship when he was at Florida & he was the catalyst for the Penn St staff.

Seider was initially retained by Mullen, wasn't he? He moved him to TE coach, and he decided to go elsewhere.

[turtlesnacks]

Sorry if I'm beating an old drum, but how come Nakobe Dean isn't at least entertaining MSU? No visit or anything. Seems like when we have blue chip players come through the state they never look at us. He's been to TSUN.... just odd.

not enough zeroes in our check

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Seider was initially retained by Mullen, wasn't he? He moved him to TE coach, and he decided to go elsewhere.

That's correct. A move I still don't understand.

[Avelso]

Does Derrick Hall have a commitable offer from Auburn?

[msbulldog]

Does Derrick Hall have a commitable offer from Auburn?

I think the story is their still evaluating him, so no.

[msbulldog]

Ishmael Burdine committed to Missouri.

[msstate7]

Ishmael Burdine committed to Missouri.

I guess this was expected, but jeez, we need to get things going again

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I guess this was expected, but jeez, we need to get things going again

Was said almost 2 weeks ago.

[msstate7]

Was said almost 2 weeks ago.

I remember your "Disappointment is coming" post. I stand by my post saying we need to get things going again

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I remember your "Disappointment is coming" post. I stand by my post saying we need to get things going again

It seems like we've hit a lull in recruiting but the truth is this is what Our in season recruiting has been looking like. The 15-17 classes had a combined total of 3 in-season commitments (from game 1 through the Egg Bowl). The only difference is this year we had 7 commits from the 1st of June thru mid July. In years past Mullen would've held those guys until Big Dawg to make it seem like we ended the summer off with a bang & fans were held over during the season. Now you can say JoeMo needs to apply that same tactic to hold fans over but this in season lull is a yearly occurrence not some major letdown by this staff or lost momentum in recruiting.

[msbulldog]

We will be alright, we have several that were slow walking and can get at any time. Just about everyday on 247 Steve Robertson or Paul Jones have new names at various positions in their Bones and Biscuits columns that are getting interest from our staff. We have the largest recruiting staff we have ever had and the are looking at all sources for players. The they get tape and cut it up for the best parts and send it to the appropriate coach and the HC. This is the hardest working group in recruiting from the HC down that we have ever had. Hail State.

[Bothrops]

This staff is choosier in recruiting some positions it seems.

[Doggie_Style]

It seems like we've hit a lull in recruiting but the truth is this is what Our in season recruiting has been looking like. The 15-17 classes had a combined total of 3 in-season commitments (from game 1 through the Egg Bowl). The only difference is this year we had 7 commits from the 1st of June thru mid July. In years past Mullen would've held those guys until Big Dawg to make it seem like we ended the summer off with a bang & fans were held over during the season. Now you can say JoeMo needs to apply that same tactic to hold fans over but this in season lull is a yearly occurrence not some major letdown by this staff or lost momentum in recruiting.

It?s hard to compare years prior to the December signing rule but there was a point after we wiffed on Emery when a lot of top targets vaporized. This year?s class is the best in Mississippi history and we haven?t taken advantage of it to the degree we need to...not championship standard for sure....to me it is concerning that we have 8-9 more spots to fill and we are down to Jucos, projects and diamond in the rough prospects.....

[maroonmania]

It?s hard to compare years prior to the December signing rule but there was a point after we wiffed on Emery when a lot of top targets vaporized. This year?s class is the best in Mississippi history and we haven?t taken advantage of it to the degree we need to...not championship standard for sure....to me it is concerning that we have 8-9 more spots to fill and we are down to Jucos, projects and diamond in the rough prospects.....

Recruiting has really been nothing but disappointment with this staff since early July especially given the strength of the class in MS. Not sure that can even be argued.

[bulldawg28]

Recruiting has really been nothing but disappointment with this staff since early July especially given the strength of the class in MS. Not sure that can even be argued.

It can be argued.

[MetEdDawg]

Does anyone know anything about Handy? He's moved up to the 5th spot on 24/7 for MS prospects. He's committed to Auburn but I have to wonder if they lose this game to Tennessee and end up 6-6 or 7-5 if he might open his recruitment back up.

[maroonmania]

Does anyone know anything about Handy? He's moved up to the 5th spot on 24/7 for MS prospects. He's committed to Auburn but I have to wonder if they lose this game to Tennessee and end up 6-6 or 7-5 if he might open his recruitment back up.

Auburn is a train wreck at the moment.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Does anyone know anything about Handy? He's moved up to the 5th spot on 24/7 for MS prospects. He's committed to Auburn but I have to wonder if they lose this game to Tennessee and end up 6-6 or 7-5 if he might open his recruitment back up.

Why? You do know players can commit because they have relationship with coaches and really want to go there. It's not all about wins and losses. Hell check the CB's on 247 for Arkansas recruits every week and they are 1-6.

[MetEdDawg]

Why? You do know players can commit because they have relationship with coaches and really want to go there. It's not all about wins and losses. Hell check the CB's on 247 for Arkansas recruits every week and they are 1-6.

Got it. So I can't ask a question. Sounds reasonable on a recruiting thread on a public message board. Guessing you don't know anything or haven't ever heard of a kid going to another school because the one they are committed to has a bad season. I hope you didn't mean for your post to come off as shitty as it did.

[sandwolf]

I hope you didn't mean for your post to come off as shitty as it did.

I don't know whether he meant it to come off as shitty or not, but either way I wouldn't worry about it because that guy is easily one of the top 5 shittiest posters on this board.

[Cooterpoot]

Handy has some issues to overcome.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Just a quick update on who's left with this class. I'm sure I'll forget some names so please feel free to add.

QB - Done

RB - Eric Gray (TN) Michigan Commit
Lee Witherspoon (AL)
Tahj Gary (GA)
Jerrion Ealy (Jackson Prep) OM Commit

WR - Javonta Payton (Northwest JC) OM Commit
Johnathan Mingo (Brandon) OM Commit
Donterrio Drummond (EMCC)
Devonta Lee (LA)

TE - Done

OL - Chris Akporoghene (FL) TN Commit
Danielson Ike (MZ)
Finley Felix (Coffeyville CC)
Bamidele Olaseni (Garden City CC)
Kamaar Bell (GA)
Charles Cross (Laurel) FSU Commit

DL - Done

LB - Nakobe Dean (Horn Lake)
Derick Hall (Gulfport)
Zach Edwards (Starkville)
Kevon Glenn (GA)
Lee Kpogba (NC)

DB - Brandon Turnage (Lafayette) Bama Commit
Fred Peters (Jones JC)
Raydarius Jones (Horn Lake)
Jonathan Hayes (Jones JC) OM Commit
Marquez Beason (TX) Illinois Commit
Dylan Lawrence (George County)
Collin Duncan (AL)

Again I'm sure I missed some guys & there will be more names pop up as we get closer to signing day & after the 1st signing period.

[ZedFedder]

Turnage is a bama commit

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Turnage is a bama commit

Thanks brain cramp

[NCDawg]

So I assume Ealy, the best RB in the state, isn't even considering us. Irks me that Ole Miss beat us out on him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So I assume Ealy, the best RB in the state, isn't even considering us. Irks me that Ole Miss beat us out on him.

He is & just a name I forgot to mention. He's been to a couple MSU games this year.

[Cooterpoot]

So I assume Ealy, the best RB in the state, isn't even considering us. Irks me that Ole Miss beat us out on him.

Why? He's never touching a college football field.

[Commercecomet24]

Why? He's never touching a college football field.

Yeah this is a done deal, has been for a long time. He'll be in the minor leagues next summer, with a lot of money in the bank.

[Ari Gold]

Just a quick update on who's left with this class. I'm sure I'll forget some names so please feel free to add.

QB - Done

RB - Eric Gray (TN) Michigan Commit
Lee Witherspoon (AL)
Tahj Gary (GA)
Jerrion Ealy (Jackson Prep) OM Commit

WR - Javonta Payton (Northwest JC) OM Commit
Johnathan Mingo (Brandon) OM Commit
Donterrio Drummond (EMCC)
Devonta Lee (LA)

TE - Done

OL - Chris Akporoghene (FL) TN Commit
Danielson Ike (MZ)
Finley Felix (Coffeyville CC)
Bamidele Olaseni (Garden City CC)
Kamaar Bell (GA)

DL - Done

LB - Nakobe Dean (Horn Lake)
Derick Hall (Gulfport)
Zach Edwards (Starkville)
Kevon Glenn (GA)
Lee Kpogba (NC)

DB - Brandon Turnage (Lafayette) Bama Commit
Fred Peters (Jones JC)
Raydarius Jones (Horn Lake)
Jonathan Hayes (Jones JC) OM Commit
Marquez Beason (TX) Illinois Commit
Dylan Lawrence (George County)
Collin Duncan (AL)

Again I'm sure I missed some guys & there will be more names pop up as we get closer to signing day & after the 1st signing period.

OL Charles Cross is far from over..

[Bothrops]

Why? He's never touching a college football field.

I think baseball is probably his best bet anyway.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

OL Charles Cross is far from over..

I knew there would be guys I'd forget

[Todd4State]

He is & just a name I forgot to mention. He's been to a couple MSU games this year.

Dannis Jackson?

Thanks for doing the list. I appreciate it.

[Todd4State]

Yeah this is a done deal, has been for a long time. He'll be in the minor leagues next summer, with a lot of money in the bank.

I saw a mock draft which had him at 17th overall to the A's.

[Commercecomet24]

I saw a mock draft which had him at 17th overall to the A's.

Yeah he's first rounder for sure and they're ready to get paid.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Dannis Jackson?

Thanks for doing the list. I appreciate it.

I don't think he's a legit option. He's locked in with OM.

[msu15]

I don't think he's a legit option. He's locked in with OM.

Was his whole situation purely orchestrated for a flip?

[Doggie_Style]

Dannis Jackson?

Thanks for doing the list. I appreciate it.

We have a better shot at Mingo albeit small.....So who do we lead for other than Witherspoon and Lawrence?

[Cooterpoot]

OL Charles Cross is far from over..

The only way Cross doesn't go to FSU is if the staff is fired.

[Cooterpoot]

I don't think he's a legit option. He's locked in with OM.

Not going to qualify unless there's a lot of helping going on. And let's be honest, with our offense doing absolutely nothing passing wise, we're not going to pull good WRs.

[Ari Gold]

While the odds are extremely low that Ealy doesn’t go pro in baseball, there odds are much higher that if he does chose to play football and baseball at the college level that it would be in Starkville .. kid isn’t a lock for OM

[Ari Gold]

The only way Cross doesn't go to FSU is if the staff is fired.

I disagree there. We are still in the game for sure.

[Ari Gold]

I don't think he's a legit option. He's locked in with OM.

Agree. We have a better shot at getting Dean than Jackson. So that should tell everyone the odds he flips back.

And with Mingo , I’m not sure what the staff there is telling him or what the kid wants to play at the next level but I can almost guarantee you he won’t end up on the offensive side of the ball there.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I don't know whether he meant it to come off as shitty or not, but either way I wouldn't worry about it because that guy is easily one of the top 5 shittiest posters on this board.

How so? Please tell me how, sandVAGIN.....I mean sandwolf. Is it the calling people out for being wrong? Is it the wanting non-related recruiting topics to go to the main board? Tell me what it is that makes me top 5 shittiest posters on the board...hahahaha


Got it. So I can't ask a question. Sounds reasonable on a recruiting thread on a public message board. Guessing you don't know anything or haven't ever heard of a kid going to another school because the one they are committed to has a bad season. I hope you didn't mean for your post to come off as shitty as it did.

It may have come off as shitty but it really addresses a big misconception about recruiting. Alot of recruits see a struggling team as a means of quicker playing time. Here is another "shitty" fact. Recruits see this recruiting thing in a totally different way than most fans do.

[Irondawg]

Is Ray. Jones purely a DB or is WR an option there as well?

[hacker]

sandVAGIN.....I mean sandwolf.

How did you come up with this?

sandwolf, how will you ever recover from this devastating burn?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Just a quick update on who's left with this class. I'm sure I'll forget some names so please feel free to add.

QB - Done

RB - Eric Gray (TN) Michigan Commit
Lee Witherspoon (AL)
Tahj Gary (GA)
Jerrion Ealy (Jackson Prep) OM Commit

WR - Javonta Payton (Northwest JC) OM Commit
Johnathan Mingo (Brandon) OM Commit
Donterrio Drummond (EMCC)
Devonta Lee (LA)

TE - Done

OL - Chris Akporoghene (FL) TN Commit
Danielson Ike (MZ)
Finley Felix (Coffeyville CC)
Bamidele Olaseni (Garden City CC)
Kamaar Bell (GA)
Charles Cross (Laurel) FSU Commit

DL - Done

LB - Nakobe Dean (Horn Lake)
Derick Hall (Gulfport)
Zach Edwards (Starkville)
Kevon Glenn (GA)
Lee Kpogba (NC)

DB - Brandon Turnage (Lafayette) Bama Commit
Fred Peters (Jones JC)
Raydarius Jones (Horn Lake)
Jonathan Hayes (Jones JC) OM Commit
Marquez Beason (TX) Illinois Commit
Dylan Lawrence (George County)
Collin Duncan (AL)

Again I'm sure I missed some guys & there will be more names pop up as we get closer to signing day & after the 1st signing period.


Would like to know where we stand with Kpogba and Glenn at LB? They look like legit SEC guys.

Same for DB Collin Duncan. He has good film and it's just his Jr. tape

How come Witherspoon is not in the boat yet? Holding out for Awbarn?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Would like to know where we stand with Kpogba and Glenn at LB? They look like legit SEC guys.

Same for DB Collin Duncan. He has good film and it's just his Jr. tape

How come Witherspoon is not in the boat yet? Holding out for Awbarn?

It's early with Kpogba so hard to know. Glen has been on the radar but not sure how much interest either side has.

The staff likes Duncan & he's a take right now. I don't know if we'll wait until December for him. If he wants in I think he'll need to make a move in the next month or so.

All of this is so new to Witherspoon. He wants to see all of his options & we haven't pushed yet either so the timing works for both sides.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Thanks man.

Kpogba has some Jon Abram in him and he's prob a legit 4.5 at LB. Could be special.

[NCDawg]

We need a Jon Abram, Dick Butkus, type at LB who will knock the heck out of anybody with the football. I'm tired of seeing some of LB's get pushed out of the way (exception Eroll Thompson).

[hacker]

Fred Peters commits

https://247sports.com/Player/Fred-Peters-46052721/

[ShotgunDawg]

What type of prospect is Peters?

Abram, Landrews, McLaurin, or Cole?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What type of prospect is Peters?

Abram, Landrews, McLaurin, or Cole?

Abram. He will start next year.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Mid Season Highlights

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10215760/5b893de8b3c9e703a851ca53

[KOdawg1]

Good to see us get a commitment. It seems like it's been forever

[ShotgunDawg]

Abram. He will start next year.

Hell yeah.

Then he's terribly underrated?

[KOdawg1]

Mid Season Highlights

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10215760/5b893de8b3c9e703a851ca53
Yeah that's definitely an Abram lol

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Hell yeah.

Then he's terribly underrated?

Ehh depend on where you look. He's a 4* on Rivals.

[ShotgunDawg]

Ehh depend on where you look. He's a 4* on Rivals.

Gotcha

If 247 has him as an 87 then how is he only an 85 composite? Does ESPN have him unranked?

[chef dixon]

Are Torbor and Pruitt difference makers at WR?

I wonder why this staff hasn?t been able to convince any big time WR to showcase in the system with Shrader in the future.

Anyone know if we are still looking at those WR from TN Scurry and Watkins?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Gotcha

If 247 has him as an 87 then how is he only an 85 composite? Does ESPN have him unranked?

Now that I can't answer.

[ShotgunDawg]

Are Torbor and Pruitt difference makers at WR?

I wonder why this staff hasn?t been able to convince any big time WR to showcase in the system with Shrader in the future.

Anyone know if we are still looking at those WR from TN Scurry and Watkins?

Torbor looks pretty good on video but I'm not sure if he's as good as Ross

If you were a big time WR, would you come play for us right now?

We simply don't play pitch and catch well enough right now to attract WRs.

My hope is that we'll take a big step forward later this season or next year with Guidry having the JUCO out of him and Whop getting involved. Our next talent influx at the position will likely be Heath and Patterson as JUCO guys in the 2020 class

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Are Torbor and Pruitt difference makers at WR?

I wonder why this staff hasn?t been able to convince any big time WR to showcase in the system with Shrader in the future.

Anyone know if we are still looking at those WR from TN Scurry and Watkins?

Neither guy will be Day 1 players. They could potentially help down the line.

What do we have to sell WR on to get big time kids here? No NFL WR & our offense hasn't shown itself yet to be WR friendly. Kids are trying to get to the league & want to know you can get them there.

No we're not really on Scurry or Watkins anymore.

[BeardoMSU]

No we're not really on Scurry or Watkins anymore.

IYOK, this summer you predicted this class final ranking would be somewhere between 8 and 12 (I'm pretty sure that was your range). Given where we are today, where do you predict us to fall? Gracias.

[Cooterpoot]

If we get the best kids from Marion, Jeff Davis, and Covington Co. every year (or 2 if jucos), then we're getting good players. Peters is a day one starter.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, this summer you predicted this class final ranking would be somewhere between 8 and 12 (I'm pretty sure that was your range). Given where we are today, where do you predict us to fall? Gracias.

17-22

[Doggie_Style]

Fred Peters commits

https://247sports.com/Player/Fred-Peters-46052721/

With Peters on board what are the chances J. Jones moves to WR?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

With Peters on board what are the chances J. Jones moves to WR?

I think he would do great at WR but he wants to play DB.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

17-22

247 will simply manipulate the rankings during the final week to make sure that the blue bloods (largest membership groups) end up in the top ten.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Gotcha

If 247 has him as an 87 then how is he only an 85 composite? Does ESPN have him unranked?

Fred Peters composite is wrong. He's a 4* on espn & Rivals & an 87 on 247 but his composite .8517. There's a glitch somewhere.

[ShotgunDawg]

Fred Peters composite is wrong. He's a 4* on espn & Rivals & an 87 on 247 but his composite .8517. There's a glitch somewhere.

That's hilarious

[Jack Lambert]

247 will simply manipulate the rankings during the final week to make sure that the blue bloods (largest membership groups) end up in the top ten.

Florida must not be a blue blood because they went down in rankings.

[msbulldog]

Peters is a good pick-up, if nothing else but depth!

[maroonmania]

We have a better shot at Mingo albeit small.....So who do we lead for other than Witherspoon and Lawrence?

Apparently we should just quit wasting our time recruiting the top WRs in MS since they are all going to continue to go to OM no matter how many they already have on the roster and no matter that they will continue to suck as a program. SO frustrating.

[maroonmania]

Neither guy will be Day 1 players. They could potentially help down the line.

What do we have to sell WR on to get big time kids here? No NFL WR & our offense hasn't shown itself yet to be WR friendly. Kids are trying to get to the league & want to know you can get them there.

No we're not really on Scurry or Watkins anymore.

Usually the biggest selling point is to commit a big time QB prospect first. Heck, when OM committed Eli Manning or Shae Patterson they drew a host of top WRs with them. Not sure how Schrader is viewed by WR prospects but I'm surprised that Schrader's commitment along with JoMo's reputation for wanting to throw the ball is getting a little more interest from some decently rated WRs.

[Turfdawg67]

This kid is a project at best....he will need a red-shirt year just to learn the position. If things don't work out he could move to DB. It's a sad commentary that that's where we are with RB recruiting but it is what it is. Next year we will have to get by with Hill/Gibson/Rivers(walk-on), hopefully we can do better in 2020.

https://i.postimg.cc/y8Tb32qt/531-F106-C-C32-D-45-F0-AEEA-0-DDAE9760-BCF.png

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Usually the biggest selling point is to commit a big time QB prospect first. Heck, when OM committed Eli Manning or Shae Patterson they drew a host of top WRs with them. Not sure how Schrader is viewed by WR prospects but I'm surprised that Schrader's commitment along with JoMo's reputation for wanting to throw the ball is getting a little more interest from some decently rated WRs.

A big time QB helps but it's not above putting kids in the league & showing you will throw it around. Before OM signed Shea they already had Wallace & Kelly who had put up huge #'s passing. Also Eli & Shea were the #1 QB's in the country so that's a lil diff than a 4* pull. Everybody in the country knew Shea.

JoeMo reputation doesn't matter to MSU. Kids have to see it at MSU. Kids saw Mullen at Florida with Harvin, Demps, & Rainey but we never got those style of players here.

[Dawgology]

A big time QB helps but it's not above putting kids in the league & showing you will throw it around. Before OM signed Shea they already had Wallace & Kelly who had put up huge #'s passing. Also Eli & Shea were the #1 QB's in the country so that's a lil diff than a 4* pull. Everybody in the country knew Shea.

JoeMo reputation doesn't matter to MSU. Kids have to see it at MSU. Kids saw Mullen at Florida with Harvin, Demps, & Rainey but we never got those style of players here.

Yep. Until we start putting receivers in the League it's going to be tough to recruit top notch WR's. It's really a catch-22.

[Cooterpoot]

None of the MS WRs this year are can't miss prospects. If OM wasn't loosing 3 WRs this year, they wouldn't touch the field next year. Mingo is likely a DB at OM.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Didn't DD Bowie transfer?

Where did Jamal Couch land?

[Homedawg]

Peters is a good pick-up, if nothing else but depth!

Depth? He's gonna have to start. Have to.

[msbulldog]

Didn't DD Bowie transfer?

Where did Jamal Couch land?

Yes, Itawamba I think
Hinds catching the heck out of passes.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yes, Itawamba I think
Hinds catching the heck out of passes.

DD went to Northwest but I don't think he's there anymore.

You're thinking of Reggie Todd & outside of that 1 big half where he scored 3 TD's he's not done much of anything this season.

[Doggie_Style]

https://i.postimg.cc/y8Tb32qt/531-F106-C-C32-D-45-F0-AEEA-0-DDAE9760-BCF.png

Do you wear your 'maroon colored glasses' to bed at night?

Are you happy with our recruiting at RB, WR & LB?

[Homedawg]

Do you wear your 'maroon colored glasses' to bed at night?

Are you happy with our recruiting at RB, WR & LB?

you left out OL

[Todd4State]

A big time QB helps but it's not above putting kids in the league & showing you will throw it around. Before OM signed Shea they already had Wallace & Kelly who had put up huge #'s passing. Also Eli & Shea were the #1 QB's in the country so that's a lil diff than a 4* pull. Everybody in the country knew Shea.

JoeMo reputation doesn't matter to MSU. Kids have to see it at MSU. Kids saw Mullen at Florida with Harvin, Demps, & Rainey but we never got those style of players here.

It would help if we told them that they would play early. At least that's how I would sell it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It would help if we told them that they would play early. At least that's how I would sell it.

I'm sure we are but results speak louder than words & right now we don't have the results to sell.

[Turfdawg67]

Do you wear your 'maroon colored glasses' to bed at night?

Are you happy with our recruiting at RB, WR & LB?

Nope, but repeating it every other page of this thread for four months ain't heppin' anything bro. Everyone on here knows of your discontent to JoMo's recruiting ability

[Todd4State]

I'm sure we are but results speak louder than words & right now we don't have the results to sell.

Well, I've seen teams that are complete dumpster fires find a way to recruit to fix their weaknesses. We should be able to do that as well. Also, we had Heath an UA AA in our class last year and it looks like we lead for Mason and Harmon in the future so I think we will get it fixed eventually.

Would have helped if we recruited better 2-3 years ago but there's nothing any of us can do about that at this point except watch the clown show.

[maroonmania]

Well, I've seen teams that are complete dumpster fires find a way to recruit to fix their weaknesses. We should be able to do that as well. Also, we had Heath an UA AA in our class last year and it looks like we lead for Mason and Harmon in the future so I think we will get it fixed eventually.

Would have helped if we recruited better 2-3 years ago but there's nothing any of us can do about that at this point except watch the clown show.

I'm personally just tired of the excuses. Just go get some WRs that can catch and make plays! Heck, I see Group of 5 schools EVERY WEEK with MUCH better WRs than we have. And we actually had some of the best WRs in our program's history during a time when we were running the dad blame wishbone (Danny Knight, Marty McDole, Glen Young). We've been giving our coaches a pass for too long for not getting any effective WRs into our program. I mean heck, Eric Moulds is the only WR we've put into the NFL worth anything in the past 40 years so are we just going to say because of that 'woe is us, we just can't get nobody'?

[msbulldog]

DD went to Northwest but I don't think he's there anymore.

You're thinking of Reggie Todd & outside of that 1 big half where he scored 3 TD's he's not done much of anything this season.

I blame it on the vodka.

[Matt3467]

I understand that results matter, but we all know that these players all receive a host of benefits wherever they choose to go. The teams that are on the bottom are the ones that "give" the least.

[Cooterpoot]

I understand that results matter, but we all know that these players all receive a host of benefits wherever they choose to go. The teams that are on the bottom are the ones that "give" the least.

That's really not true. Sure, it happens, but it's rarely the determining factor.

[KOdawg1]

Well, I've seen teams that are complete dumpster fires find a way to recruit to fix their weaknesses. We should be able to do that as well. Also, we had Heath an UA AA in our class last year and it looks like we lead for Mason and Harmon in the future so I think we will get it fixed eventually.

Would have helped if we recruited better 2-3 years ago but there's nothing any of us can do about that at this point except watch the clown show.

Harmon will be a stud. The kid can go get it. And yes, we lead for him but OM won't just let him go

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

2019 WR's - Whats the story USP's Kanoda Lewis? Is Brooks Rayburn going to score TD's on us when he signs with Southern Miss? Think he will take PWO spot from us?

2020 WR's Malik Heath and E. Jai Mason would be a great class but I'm sure by then JoeMo can add one more 90+ talent.

2021 WR's Antonio Harmon looks like a national recruit.

[Johnson85]

That's really not true. Sure, it happens, but it's rarely the determining factor.

It's rarely the determining factor because most schools with a shot are in the same ball park on what they offer. But certainly if any SEC school just doesn't play the game at all, you'll see them get hammered.

[Cooterpoot]

It's rarely the determining factor because most schools with a shot are in the same ball park on what they offer. But certainly if any SEC school just doesn't play the game at all, you'll see them get hammered.

Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.

[Commercecomet24]

Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.

Very well said and extremely accurate.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.

Right, but there's also no doubt that the bigger programs have more money to give. Not necessarily to current guys visiting campus, but to the young prospects. What do I mean? Well schools don't just jump on these kids when they're Sr and Jrs in HS, they try to get the edge by doing a couple hundred $ handshakes to the studs in 8th grade. Sure 99% of those hand shakes are wasted money, but being the first is a huge advantage.

"We noticed you before any of these other programs. We're the ones who got your moms car fixed 4 years ago when she couldn't pay, got your dad a job when nobody was hiring, and we're the ones who ask every week if you needed anything all these weeks. Sure those other guys are throwing money at you now, but remember who really has your back and believed in you all this time"

A school with more obsessed fans and more money can get on more kids at a younger age. Less money = have to be picky, have to be picky = make sure they'll be a stud first, make sure they'll be a stud first = you're 2-3 years late. All else being equal (which it generally is, a lot of schools have nice facilities, campus, coaches, etc) a kid will pick the school that's been helping their family the longest.

[Cooterpoot]

Not true at all other than recruiting starts early. That’s fantasy fan BS. It’s an excuse and not fact. Yeah, you get a Cam deal here or there, but it’s rare. You get schools doing things but it’s not rampant huge money.
Look at the blatant stuff OM was doing. Got them nothing.

[MaroonFlounder]

Looking at the guys verbally committed, I hope they stay that way after the shitshow last night. MSU cannot compete in the SEC without talent on offense. It is NOT SEC-Level at present. I hope Jarrion Jones will get a shot at receiver, because he looks very good in that capacity at NWR. Unfortunately, he may be a better DB on Sundays, and with our luck that will be what he wants to focus on. Torbor dropped from a 4 to a 3-star as soon as he committed. Not sure what that's about. Kyziah Pruit showed out in his game vs Kosy, so he looks promising. Before the season started, I felt like we could flip one of the OM WR commits (Jackson or Jernigan). Now, we likely write those guys off. If Schrader sticks with his commitment, he will either make JoMo or break him, but the reality seems as though our current staff is only good enough to coach playmakers for success against the weak Big10 defenses not named tOSU.

[Todd4State]

Looking at the guys verbally committed, I hope they stay that way after the shitshow last night. MSU cannot compete in the SEC without talent on offense. It is NOT SEC-Level at present. I hope Jarrion Jones will get a shot at receiver, because he looks very good in that capacity at NWR. Unfortunately, he may be a better DB on Sundays, and with our luck that will be what he wants to focus on. Torbor dropped from a 4 to a 3-star as soon as he committed. Not sure what that's about. Kyziah Pruit showed out in his game vs Kosy, so he looks promising. Before the season started, I felt like we could flip one of the OM WR commits (Jackson or Jernigan). Now, we likely write those guys off. If Schrader sticks with his commitment, he will either make JoMo or break him, but the reality seems as though our current staff is only good enough to coach playmakers for success against the weak Big10 defenses not named tOSU.

I'm pretty sure we could flip Jernigan if we wanted to. But that won't even be discussed until we crap out on the JUCO market if I had to guess.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.

Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has

[Commercecomet24]

We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.

Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has

I've heard things are starting to trend more our way with Mingo. I know some people think because of our putrid offense this year that it's turning recruits off but some are looking at our situation as an opportunity to play early on offense, especially receivers.

[BuckyIsAB****]

2019 WR's - Whats the story USP's Kanoda Lewis? Is Brooks Rayburn going to score TD's on us when he signs with Southern Miss? Think he will take PWO spot from us?

2020 WR's Malik Heath and E. Jai Mason would be a great class but I'm sure by then JoeMo can add one more 90+ talent.

2021 WR's Antonio Harmon looks like a national recruit.

We should offer Brooks Rayburn yesterday. Although I am iffier on him than I was before because Hancock has been terrible and Austin Williams hasnt done anything since the KSU game and he struggles blocking right now. Rayburn is faster than Williams was and he is playing in a veer offense so he is prolly a RS if we do take him, but the kid balled out at camp this year

[BuckyIsAB****]

I've heard things are starting to trend more our way with Mingo. I know some people think because of our putrid offense this year that it's turning recruits off but some are looking at our situation as an opportunity to play early on offense, especially receivers.

Mingo is our best WR on campus when he comes for visits. Which he has been to several of

[Commercecomet24]

Mingo is our best WR on campus when he comes for visits. Which he has been to several of

Agreed. We need him.

[KOdawg1]

Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?

[MaroonFlounder]

Should Rodrigues Clark, RB at Starkville High, get an offer? Would he walkon at MSU, if not?

[Bothrops]

We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.

Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has

I don't know if Mingo is the best WR or not, but Javeious Purvis is the best player in the state.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?

We need to go after any receiver available at this point. And that includes scouring the country for grad transfers. Leave no stone unturned to find people to catch the ball

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don't know if Mingo is the best WR or not, but Javeious Purvis is the best player in the state.

I havent seen him play but I do know theres a big difference in who he plays vs who Mingo plays.

[Cooterpoot]

The best three Sr. skill players are in Rankin Co.

[Coursesuper]

We should offer Brooks Rayburn yesterday. Although I am iffier on him than I was before because Hancock has been terrible and Austin Williams hasnt done anything since the KSU game and he struggles blocking right now. Rayburn is faster than Williams was and he is playing in a veer offense so he is prolly a RS if we do take him, but the kid balled out at camp this year

You are absolutely correct on Brooks, and he will take a RS. Brooks is better than Austin Williams, he's much faster, runs great routes and he will and can block willingly. His numbers are way down this year due to Hancock's inability to get him the ball and they run a basically a T offense from a "spread" look. Brooks season is over, he got rolled up last Friday and has hurt his ankle. His dad said they hope to get him well enough to play in the all star game but that might not be in play. They really like State but they are getting pretty worn out with the way that the staff is slow playing them.

[Cooterpoot]

Rayburn is not an SEC WR. He's just not. He can go to ULL or somewhere like that, but he's not an SEC WR. And I tried to tell people Austin Williams was a possession receiver at best, but some of the State media want to talk up guys before the season like they're difference makers and they're not.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You are absolutely correct on Brooks, and he will take a RS. Brooks is better than Austin Williams, he's much faster, runs great routes and he will and can block willingly. His numbers are way down this year due to Hancock's inability to get him the ball and they run a basically a T offense from a "spread" look. Brooks season is over, he got rolled up last Friday and has hurt his ankle. His dad said they hope to get him well enough to play in the all star game but that might not be in play. They really like State but they are getting pretty worn out with the way that the staff is slow playing them.

Any clue on what the staff's reason for slow playing him is? Is it a speed or size issue? Generally curious, seems like we need all the help we can get at that position.

[Coursesuper]

Rayburn is not an SEC WR. He's just not. He can go to ULL or somewhere like that, but he's not an SEC WR.

Have you seen him play or seen him at camp competing with the other players that are committed?

[Coursesuper]

Any clue on what the staff's reason for slow playing him is? Is it a speed or size issue? Generally curious, seems like we need all the help we can get at that position.

Not sure why, they aren't even sure why, the staff is staying in contact weekly but still haven't offered.

[Cooterpoot]

Have you seen him play or seen him at camp competing with the other players that are committed?

I saw him last year when we started talking to him. He's more of the same of what we've got. He's similar to the WR at Taylorsville that's leading the state in receiving. He's too small and his speed isn't elite but it's good. Sorry, he can walk on but I wouldn't offer him a scholarship.

[Coursesuper]

I saw him last year when we started talking to him. He's more of the same of what we've got. He's similar to the WR at Taylorsville that's leading the state in receiving. He's too small and his speed isn't elite but it's good. Sorry, he can walk on but I wouldn't offer him a scholarship.

The old staff didn't talk to him at all, so I'm not calling bullshit but your mistaken on that. Getsy was the first one to contact him in this Feb.

I saw his tool on D backs that are committed to us at camp and he looked head and shoulders better than our top WR commit at camp. I guess you only saw him against Brandon or Pearl.

[Cooterpoot]

The old staff didn't talk to him at all, so I'm not calling bullshit but your mistaken on that. Getsy was the first one to contact him in this Feb.

I saw his tool on D backs that are committed to us at camp and he looked head and shoulders better than our top WR commit at camp. I guess you only saw him against Brandon or Pearl.

Nah, we talked to him last year. They just didn't offer and never were going to. The last staff had some kind of contact with just about any decent recruit in MS.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Have you seen him play or seen him at camp competing with the other players that are committed?
I’ve watched him play on Fridays twice and in 7on7 many times. He’s not an SEC receiver just like Austin Williams isn’t an SEC receiver. He has good speed, not elite.

[Coursesuper]

Nah, we talked to him last year. They just didn't offer and never were going to. The last staff had some kind of contact with just about any decent recruit in MS.

Well, I know that most what on these boards is about 50% truth, but what your saying is 100% bullshit. I've know this kid since he was 7, his dad and I are friends and have coached our kids on the baseball field since they were 7. I can absolutely guarantee you that ******* staff didn't contact the kid in any way shape form or fashion. You can have your opinion about the kid, we can agree to disagree that fine but the rest is just not true.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Rayburn is not an SEC WR. He's just not. He can go to ULL or somewhere like that, but he's not an SEC WR. And I tried to tell people Austin Williams was a possession receiver at best, but some of the State media want to talk up guys before the season like they're difference makers and they're not.

Damn...I could not disagree more with both those opinions. Rayburn and Austin will/would have good careers at State.

[Homedawg]

Should Rodrigues Clark, RB at Starkville High, get an offer? Would he walkon at MSU, if not?

no and no. He has an offer an committed to Memphis. And no to Zach Edwards to while we are on the subject of shs players..

[msstate7]

Seems we may have trouble filling out this class with worthy players. Should we just go all-in on the waiver wire/free agency (grad transfers)?

[Cooterpoot]

Damn...I could not disagree more with both those opinions. Rayburn and Austin will/would have good careers at State.

No problem with you disagreeing. You're wrong, but no problem with it. Williams can't get open, can't catch consistently (none of them can), and can't block. And he's had a redshirt year in the program. He's never going to be more than possession guy. He's another kid that wasn't recruited by SEC schools. Our whole WR corp is that minus Guidry. And people wonder why we don't have good receivers? Then they want us to sign more of the same? Upgrading our WRs is a must. We can't continue down this same road.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

No problem with you disagreeing. You're wrong, but no problem with it. Williams can't get open, can't catch consistently (none of them can), and can't block. And he's had a redshirt year in the program. He's never going to be more than possession guy. He's another kid that wasn't recruited by SEC schools. Our whole WR corp is that minus Guidry. And people wonder why we don't have good receivers? Then they want us to sign more of the same? Upgrading our WRs is a must. We can't continue down this same road.

Not saying they are #1 SEC WR's but both could have a good SEC careers as the slot guy. They know how to get open. Our QB sucks at finding open receivers right now. It'll get better once we switch to KT.

[Todd4State]

Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?

Probably so. I would think that anyone that could potentially help us immediately would be of interest.

[Cooterpoot]

Payton looks the part but his play has been inconsistent. They’re different type players but Drummond might be better. I’d cut some WRs and take both I think. But we’ve got 2 jucos coming after next year. We need some stud HS WRs.

[Ari Gold]

With the WR talk and I’m not saying that a few of the 2019 class may be big time players at the next level or that some underclassmen may step up the next few years
But over the last 10 years how many WR from the state of Mississippi have made a big impact with a SEC school or any P5 school ?? Or hell any non power 5 school .
I bet the list is very very short. I’m coming up with about 5 off the top of my head

So this tells me look out of state for impact WR....

[Ari Gold]

And some info I found out over the last couple of weeks,
If we don’t land a RB that we fell like can contribute at an SEC level in this recruiting class
Don’t be surprised if Marcus Murphy is moved and given a shot at RB this spring. Not saying he will stay there but that’s what I was told.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

And some info I found out over the last couple of weeks,
If we don’t land a RB that we fell like can contribute at an SEC level in this recruiting class
Don’t be surprised if Marcus Murphy is moved and given a shot at RB this spring. Not saying he will stay there but that’s what I was told.

That would be a waste of time IMO

[Cooterpoot]

We’re killing this recruiting thing. Like, killing it dead,dead,dead. We’ve got a couple kids that will be transferring out too. And will have only 2 RBs if one of those doesn’t transfer. Of course, we only want to play the starting WRs and RB anyway. So unless some is hurt, we good*. This is going to end badly.

[Homedawg]

And some info I found out over the last couple of weeks,
If we don’t land a RB that we fell like can contribute at an SEC level in this recruiting class
Don’t be surprised if Marcus Murphy is moved and given a shot at RB this spring. Not saying he will stay there but that’s what I was told.

Been told the same. He's really struggled picking up things as a safety.

[Doggie_Style]

We’re killing this recruiting thing. Like, killing it dead,dead,dead. We’ve got a couple kids that will be transferring out too. And will have only 2 RBs if one of those doesn’t transfer. Of course, we only want to play the starting WRs and RB anyway. So unless some is hurt, we good*. This is going to end badly.

your preaching to the choir brother

[hacker]

Been told the same. He's really struggled picking up things as a safety.

Yet he's been on the field as a true freshman.

[GreenheadDawg]

This staff is a ****ing train wreck

[yjnkdawg]

This staff is a ****ing train wreck


I wish this thread could just contain viable information about what is actual going on with our recruiting, etc. There are plenty of threads addressing this on the site, but you should know that. You are an active participant.

[Cowbell]

We?re killing this recruiting thing. Like, killing it dead,dead,dead. We?ve got a couple kids that will be transferring out too. And will have only 2 RBs if one of those doesn?t transfer. Of course, we only want to play the starting WRs and RB anyway. So unless some is hurt, we good*. This is going to end badly.

Yes. The more I think about the results, the more I convince myself that this is only going to get worse. We are quickly becoming the single biggest dumpster-fire year that an SEC program has experienced without some type of NCAA sanctions.

[Doggie_Style]

I wish this thread could just contain viable information about what is actual going on with our recruiting, etc. There are plenty of threads addressing this on the site, but you should know that. You are an active participant.

The problem is there really isn't a lot of news. We are throwing out offers to anyone who has a pulse these days and we really only lead for Witherspoon who is the only back currently on the board. We are praying for a miracle in regard to D. Hall, Mingo, Ealy and a couple of OL's. Recruiting at this point for our staff has an air of desperation. It's not fun to watch.

[GreenheadDawg]

I wish this thread could just contain viable information about what is actual going on with our recruiting, etc. There are plenty of threads addressing this on the site, but you should know that. You are an active participant.

While I agree, this is about all we have to y’all about currently.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I wish this thread could just contain viable information about what is actual going on with our recruiting, etc. There are plenty of threads addressing this on the site, but you should know that. You are an active participant.

How dare you try to limit the RECRUITING THREAD to recruiting topics only!!!****

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

While I agree, this is about all we have to y’all about currently.


Still doesn't address why the talk is HERE ON THE RECRUITING BOARD.

[Bothrops]

Hell you got to win first.

I don't buy all this talk that we have the worst receivers around. Granted, they are among the bottom in the league, but that's always the way it's gonna be with us. Our main problem is we don't have a qb that can function, apparently. Remains to be seen with the others, but I suspect we will know something soon. We need a pass-first guy for this offense to have a chance in mother****ing hell. But we don't have the worst passing game in the history of football because of our WR corps.

[Bothrops]

With the WR talk and I’m not saying that a few of the 2019 class may be big time players at the next level or that some underclassmen may step up the next few years
But over the last 10 years how many WR from the state of Mississippi have made a big impact with a SEC school or any P5 school ?? Or hell any non power 5 school .
I bet the list is very very short. I’m coming up with about 5 off the top of my head

So this tells me look out of state for impact WR....

Two of the biggest wtf misses I can recall was the kid from SA several years ago, and the kid from Pearl that went on to USM. Both would have helped us a bunch of healthy. Don didn't offer either.

[GreenheadDawg]

Still doesn't address why the talk is HERE ON THE RECRUITING BOARD.

Because I ****ing wanted it to be.

[MetEdDawg]

If you want to see the problem, look here:

https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/RecruitRankings/?State=MS

https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=MS

https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=MS

https://247sports.com/Season/2013-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&State=MS

This is your problem right here. Look at the Top 10-15 from 2013-2016. How many of those guys are you sitting here saying damn we missed on those guys big time? Like 10 in 4 years that actually did anything? And how many of those top 10-15 did we get that didn't do shit or didn't qualify. You want to know why we suck at recruiting? Too many in state Top 10 don't pan out or are good enough to leave for Bama. Think about how many of those kids actually got drafted or will get drafted. Not nearly enough.

I encourage you to go to Alabama in those same years and you will see a freaking who's who of college football. The real problem is that there are about 3-5 really solid players per year from MS then a bunch of guys that usually don't make a huge impact. Too much of the top talent in MS just isn't up to par and isn't able to make a huge impact. For every Chris Jones there's a Channing Ward.

The state of MS has a big problem that isn't being addressed. Too much of the can't miss talent leaves and not enough of the Top 10 is able to produce enough for teams like us.

[Homedawg]

The problem is there really isn't a lot of news. We are throwing out offers to anyone who has a pulse these days and we really only lead for Witherspoon who is the only back currently on the board. We are praying for a miracle in regard to D. Hall, Mingo, Ealy and a couple of OL's. Recruiting at this point for our staff has an air of desperation. It's not fun to watch.

I like what I hear concerning hall. Well at least part of it. Far from over. But food shape as of a week ago.

[Todd4State]

With the WR talk and I’m not saying that a few of the 2019 class may be big time players at the next level or that some underclassmen may step up the next few years
But over the last 10 years how many WR from the state of Mississippi have made a big impact with a SEC school or any P5 school ?? Or hell any non power 5 school .
I bet the list is very very short. I’m coming up with about 5 off the top of my head

So this tells me look out of state for impact WR....

Ole Miss has two WR's from Mississippi right now that are impact receivers.

[CadaverDawg]

Me coming to the recruiting thread for the first time in a month hoping to see something good...

https://media.giphy.com/media/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW/giphy.gif

[msu15]

Two of the biggest wtf misses I can recall was the kid from SA several years ago, and the kid from Pearl that went on to USM. Both would have helped us a bunch of healthy. Don didn't offer either.

Can't remember either, got names lol?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Steve CB'd Nakobe Dean to UGA back on the 10th. Paul Jones changed to foggy or whatever that ? crystal ball means a couple of days later.

Steve CB'd Malik Heath to us recently. Must happen.

2019 class still has some intriguing players left to sign if you just look at our target list. no superstars, but if we get to 25 off the current target list then I'll be happy for JoeMo's first year. 2020 must have 10+ out of state 5* and 4* if we're ever going to beat bama (or Kentucky. or Florida. or LSU. or A&M...)

[msstate7]

Steve CB'd Nakobe Dean to UGA back on the 10th. Paul Jones changed to foggy or whatever that ? crystal ball means a couple of days later.

Steve CB'd Malik Heath to us recently. Must happen.

2019 class still has some intriguing players left to sign if you just look at our target list. no superstars, but if we get to 25 off the current target list then I'll be happy for JoeMo's first year. 2020 must have 10+ out of state 5* and 4* if we're ever going to beat bama (or Kentucky. or Florida. or LSU. or A&M...)

Then it won't happen. 40% of our class OOS 4-and 5-stars... not happening. OM cheating more than anyone in the country got 7 4-and 5-stars in 2013 and 10 in 2016

[Homedawg]

Steve CB'd Nakobe Dean to UGA back on the 10th. Paul Jones changed to foggy or whatever that ? crystal ball means a couple of days later.

Steve CB'd Malik Heath to us recently. Must happen.

2019 class still has some intriguing players left to sign if you just look at our target list. no superstars, but if we get to 25 off the current target list then I'll be happy for JoeMo's first year. 2020 must have 10+ out of state 5* and 4* if we're ever going to beat bama (or Kentucky. or Florida. or LSU. or A&M...)

this is the biggest pipe dream in the history of mankind. That's never happening.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

JoeMo and Charles Huff, etc aren't afraid of chasing the 4* & 5*'s dude. We'll get a lot more than we got with Mullen. Over/Under on 8 might be more palatable to you?

[Jarius]

JoeMo and Charles Huff, etc aren't afraid of chasing the 4* & 5*'s dude. We'll get a lot more than we got with Mullen. Over/Under on 8 might be more palatable to you?

We are not getting 8 of them in the best in state class in history much less on a regular basis. You do not have to not be afraid to still go miss on prospects, and he is missing on just as many as Mullen did. The only difference is he has got way more in state talent to chose from this year than Mullen ever did during his time here. He will recruit in the mid to late 20s during a normal in state talent year just like Mullen normally did unless he gets better.

[BeardoMSU]

Is pulling Emery still possible?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Is pulling Emery still possible?

No, he will be an LSU Tiger

[Hambone]

He possibly could have however we have screwed the pooch only giving our RB’s only 10 carries per game

[Hambone]

Dp

[Doggie_Style]

Is pulling Emery still possible?

Yea he?s all in on the RB six carries per game and 9 point average against SEC competition****

[msbulldog]

John Emery has decommitted from Georgia.

[Doggie_Style]

John Emery has decommitted from Georgia.

L*S*U

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I bet Charles Huff is still in this. You know he's been around long enough to not give up when Emery picked UGA.

[Doggie_Style]

I bet Charles Huff is still in this. You know he's been around long enough to not give up when Emery picked UGA.

LOL

[msstate7]

I bet Charles Huff is still in this. You know he's been around long enough to not give up when Emery picked UGA.

I just hope huff isn't wasting too much time on emery. He isn't coming here

[sscjr1]

I think the time he wasted before the GA commitment resulted in us missing out on our #2 RB target

[Cooterpoot]

We’re locked in on a RB we’re going to have to beat out Troy for. Crossing my fingers.

[Doggie_Style]

We’re locked in on a RB we’re going to have to beat out Troy for. Crossing my fingers.

but he's a perfect fit for Moorhead's offense and will likely start as a true freshman! ****