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Ifyouonlyknew
02-04-2019, 08:08 PM
Tyler Hourka said on OOB this morning he was going to Charles Moore?s signing day announcement and it would not be to MS State. Is he correct or out of touch on this one?

Why would a CL MSU beat writer, not a HS writer, cover a HS prospect announcement if he's sure he's not picking MSU? The math ain't mathing.

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 08:23 PM
Have heard good things on Ealy. The melt here over him has been over the top

ShotgunDawg
02-04-2019, 08:29 PM
Have heard good things on Ealy. The melt here over him has been over the top

Really?

Seems like his and apparent MSU fan Norsworthy has decided to walk on at OM.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-04-2019, 08:42 PM
Really?

Seems like his and apparent MSU fan Norsworthy has decided to walk on at OM.

This is so odd. OM is so desperate it is pathetic

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-04-2019, 08:44 PM
Really?

Seems like his and apparent MSU fan Norsworthy has decided to walk on at OM.

Did OM flip a walk on? I thought I remember seeing Norsworthy announce he was walking on with us a few months ago?

Commercecomet24
02-04-2019, 08:45 PM
Why would a CL MSU beat writer, not a HS writer, cover a HS prospect announcement if he's sure he's not picking MSU? The math ain't mathing.

Nice!

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 08:45 PM
Really?

Seems like his and apparent MSU fan Norsworthy has decided to walk on at OM.

Have no clue what you're talking about

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 08:47 PM
This is so odd. OM is so desperate it is pathetic

They brought a kid with Mingo on his OV that they will never sign too. They are playing the game bc they realized they were behind. Feel bad for the kids they use but its just about stars for them

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-04-2019, 08:54 PM
Apparently Yancy had a surprise guest on the call in show tonight and it was Adam Norsworthy announcing he was walking on at OM...are OM fans not embarrassed by this? A walkon. Did they buy a walkon just to get Ealy who may never even play a down? Wow

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 08:56 PM
Apparently Yancy had a surprise guest on the call in show tonight and it was Adam Norsworthy announcing he was walking on at OM...are OM fans not embarrassed by this? A walkon. Did they buy a walkon just to get Ealy who may never even play a down? Wow

JPrep is a legacy OM school. It is what it is. It might have something to do with Ealy but it wont seal anything for them

ShotgunDawg
02-04-2019, 08:57 PM
Have no clue what you're talking about

Good. I'm actually happy to hear that.

Commercecomet24
02-04-2019, 08:57 PM
Apparently Yancy had a surprise guest on the call in show tonight and it was Adam Norsworthy announcing he was walking on at OM...are OM fans not embarrassed by this? A walkon. Did they buy a walkon just to get Ealy who may never even play a down? Wow

They know it's looking like Wednesday could be very good for us and a wreck for them. Desperation starting to set in.

ShotgunDawg
02-04-2019, 08:58 PM
JPrep is a legacy OM school. It is what it is. It might have something to do with Ealy but it wont seal anything for them

But apparently Norsworthy's family are MSU people.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-04-2019, 08:59 PM
They know it's looking like Wednesday could be very good for us and a wreck for them. Desperation starting to set in.

Good point

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 09:01 PM
But apparently Norsworthy's family are MSU people.

CJ Johnson was from a legacy MSU school and was signing with State till midnight on signing day eve. I like you man and aint trying to single you out but as seriously as you get into this stuff sometimes you might just want to read it on wednesday morning bc today thru wednesday is going to get crazy.

You'll be melting or trying to solve mysteries that no one can if you dont

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 09:01 PM
They know it's looking like Wednesday could be very good for us and a wreck for them. Desperation starting to set in.

100

KOdawg1
02-04-2019, 09:03 PM
Congrats OM. You stole a walk on from us. He might actually play for them next year. All in order to get a 5 star, who may not even play football, to sign with them because they are that desperate for winning the news headline. And honestly, even if he does play for them, their OL is gonna suck. They lose a ton. Their OC and DC are both just using them to land a higher job elsewhere. And at the end of the day, Matt Luke is still your coach. I'll take the state our program is in any day.

ShotgunDawg
02-04-2019, 09:03 PM
CJ Johnson was from a legacy MSU school and was signing with State till midnight on signing day eve. I like you man and aint trying to single you out but as seriously as you get into this stuff sometimes you might just want to read it on wednesday morning bc today thru wednesday is going to get crazy.

You'll be melting or trying to solve mysteries that no one can if you dont

Sheesh man. You can stop being an asshole whoever you like.

dawgday166
02-04-2019, 09:04 PM
CJ Johnson was from a legacy MSU school and was signing with State till midnight on signing day eve. I like you man and aint trying to single you out but as seriously as you get into this stuff sometimes you might just want to read it on wednesday morning bc today thru wednesday is going to get crazy.

You'll be melting or trying to solve mysteries that no one can if you dont

Exactly who I think of the last days before signing day. Johnson & the CB that couldn't hear that went to OM (can't think of his name right now). Nothing surprises me when it comes to recruiting cause of that 2011 class mainly. That class finished about #45 or so. Ironically, the players in that class took us to #1 too.

Dawgology
02-04-2019, 09:11 PM
Congrats OM. You stole a walk on from us. He might actually play for them next year. All in order to get a 5 star, who may not even play football, to sign with them because they are that desperate for winning the news headline. And honestly, even if he does play for them, their OL is gonna suck. They lose a ton. Their OC and DC are both just using them to land a higher job elsewhere. And at the end of the day, Matt Luke is still your coach. I'll take the state our program is in any day.

This is true and i agree...but at some point to change perception you have to sign these guys like this. You just have to. Perception leads to media coverage and media coverage to future recruits. Ole Miss’s football program is crap right now but they keep signing talent because of perception (true or not) and eventually that pays off. We could use a little of that in our strategy. Combine that with the established success our program has had for the past decade and it really would take us to the next level.

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 09:14 PM
Sheesh man. You can stop being an asshole whoever you like.

Im not trying to be an asshole I was just being real with you man. No offense given its just that time of year

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 09:15 PM
Exactly who I think of the last days before signing day. Johnson & the CB that couldn't hear that went to OM (can't think of his name right now). Nothing surprises me when it comes to recruiting cause of that 2011 class mainly. That class finished about #45 or so. Ironically, the players in that class took us to #1 too.

Tee Sheppard

Homedawg
02-04-2019, 09:23 PM
Charles Moore has been a Dawg for about 2 years (minus about 3 weeks). He has come to campus multiple weekends to help recruit. He has cheered for MSU his entire life. The most important thing is he reached out to us after his LSU visit! If you think he will be anything other than a Bulldawg, I don't know what to tell you!

I'm not saying you are wrong, but the visit here on Sunday was set up before he left for Baton Rouge. Now he could have skipped coming here, but I don't want it to sound like it was his idea. It wasn't. Hell, we were scared to death he wouldn't ride up.

HancockCountyDog
02-04-2019, 09:30 PM
CJ Johnson was from a legacy MSU school and was signing with State till midnight on signing day eve. I like you man and aint trying to single you out but as seriously as you get into this stuff sometimes you might just want to read it on wednesday morning bc today thru wednesday is going to get crazy.

You'll be melting or trying to solve mysteries that no one can if you dont

CJ Johnson publicly committed to the bears about a week before signing day.

BuckyIsAB****
02-04-2019, 09:32 PM
CJ Johnson publicly committed to the bears about a week before signing day.

Has nothing to do with the fact that he was going to sign with us till that night. Didnt mean to take the thread down a rabbit hole and aint gonna argue it but I was just making a point

Bdawg
02-04-2019, 09:34 PM
I'm not saying you are wrong, but the visit here on Sunday was set up before he left for Baton Rouge. Now he could have skipped coming here, but I don't want it to sound like it was his idea. It wasn't. Hell, we were scared to death he wouldn't ride up.

But he did. And that says a lot to me. Just hope the guy goes where he truly wants to go and not get talked into doing something he doesn't want to do. Its his college career and choice.

Cooterpoot
02-04-2019, 09:43 PM
What’s people worked up about? Losing a walk on? OM flipping their own commit again? The kid that’s not going to play college ball? It’s silliness.

HancockCountyDog
02-04-2019, 09:46 PM
Has nothing to do with the fact that he was going to sign with us till that night. Didnt mean to take the thread down a rabbit hole and aint gonna argue it but I was just making a point

Most people in the know, I’m not one of them, knew that we had a problem with CJ after MS/AL all star game.

I’m sure you were just trying for an example, but that wasn’t a good one.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-04-2019, 09:54 PM
What’s people worked up about? Losing a walk on? OM flipping their own commit again? The kid that’s not going to play college ball? It’s silliness.

Who is getting worked up?

Leeshouldveflanked
02-04-2019, 10:30 PM
CJ could be in NFL right now if he had went to MSU.... but now he is an assistant coach at Last Chance U..

FlytheW3
02-04-2019, 10:34 PM
Plumlee just flipped to OM.

Homedawg
02-04-2019, 10:36 PM
Plumlee just flipped to OM.

That was easy to see coming

ejdallas322
02-04-2019, 10:40 PM
How in God's name does Ole Miss have 29 commitments?

Bdawg
02-04-2019, 10:44 PM
Plumlee just flipped to OM.

Didn't someone say this would help with Mingo. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

KOdawg1
02-04-2019, 10:44 PM
How in God's name does Ole Miss have 29 commitments?

So they'll be relevant in the rankings. Doesn't matter that half their commits are G5 players, as long as it looks like they have a good class, they're fine with it

msstate7
02-04-2019, 10:46 PM
How in God's name does Ole Miss have 29 commitments?

Bama and Clemson have 28

ShotgunDawg
02-04-2019, 10:46 PM
Plumlee just flipped to OM.

Good for him. I don't think he ever plays a relevant down for them

HoopsDawg
02-04-2019, 10:52 PM
Bama and Clemson have 28

Having a hard cap at 25 per year would help even things out a bit and would reduce the "processing" of players.

HoopsDawg
02-04-2019, 10:52 PM
Good for him. I don't think he ever plays a relevant down for them


I like him as a slot receiver.

ejdallas322
02-04-2019, 10:54 PM
Good for him. I don't think he ever plays a relevant down for them

I actually agree with this and OM won't change his position based on getting him out there. Bet he transfers out.

msstate7
02-04-2019, 10:56 PM
Having a hard cap at 25 per year would help even things out a bit and would reduce the "processing" of players.

I wish they?d cap it at 22. We can?t seem to get to 25

ShotgunDawg
02-04-2019, 10:56 PM
I like him as a slot receiver.

Agree but he doesn't want to play that.

I think he transfers around till someone lets him start at QB

HoopsDawg
02-04-2019, 10:59 PM
I wish they?d cap it at 22. We can?t seem to get to 25

If everyone else could only sign 25 maybe we could too.

Commercecomet24
02-04-2019, 10:59 PM
Agree but he doesn't want to play that.

I think he transfers around till someone lets him start at QB

Yep probably wind up right back in hburg at usm.

ejdallas322
02-04-2019, 10:59 PM
Imagine if he transfers to FSU. Then OM will lose him and Cam Akers to them and make my day.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-04-2019, 11:05 PM
Didn't someone say this would help with Mingo. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I would think this would mean they won't be going after Rogers right? Does that help us with Mingo?

ejdallas322
02-04-2019, 11:08 PM
I would think this would mean they won't be going after Rogers right? Does that help us with Mingo?

I think it does. Mingo still calls him "His quarterback" after all.

ejdallas322
02-04-2019, 11:14 PM
Wait a second. So 247 has that OM still hasn't offered Rogers. HMMMM. You'd think they would have done that before signing day arrives already to secure Mingo. This is interesting.

AlSwearengen
02-04-2019, 11:46 PM
It would be mind boggling if om were to sign both Dannis Jackson and Mingo to be downfield blockers.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-04-2019, 11:55 PM
**

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:07 AM
OM finishing strong.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:40 AM
Plumlee isn?t a difference maker. I?ve said it from day one. I?ve been around him enough to say that. He?ll, most people around Hattiesburg say the same thing. He?s not a QB and he doesn?t have elite speed. Good luck to him but I won?t lose sleep over him.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:44 AM
So, OM is blowing a scholly on a pro baseball player who isn’t going to play football. They flipped a walk-on. And they’re getting a QB that can’t throw it and likely moves to DB or transfers out. I’m good with that strong finish for them.

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 12:45 AM
OM finishing strong.

Not at the positions that win football games.

KOdawg1
02-05-2019, 12:53 AM
OM finishing strong.

Who did they sign on defense who will contribute? You can sign all the offensive talent you want, but as they've found out in this league, defense wins. They don't have one, and it looks to only be getting worse.

BuckyIsAB****
02-05-2019, 01:23 AM
Plumlee just flipped to OM.

Which is a good thing for us. Just relax

Todd4State
02-05-2019, 01:24 AM
This is a pretty simple solution to me. If we want Ealy that bad offer Norsworthy a scholarship instead of Dylan Lawrence.

BuckyIsAB****
02-05-2019, 01:25 AM
Plumlee isn?t a difference maker. I?ve said it from day one. I?ve been around him enough to say that. He?ll, most people around Hattiesburg say the same thing. He?s not a QB and he doesn?t have elite speed. Good luck to him but I won?t lose sleep over him.

He is a good football player. And he can run. I've seen him outrun some cats who could run pretty good themselves. He is prolly a 4.5-6 guy But him committing to OM helps us with someone else. It will be ok.

BuckyIsAB****
02-05-2019, 01:27 AM
Wait a second. So 247 has that OM still hasn't offered Rogers. HMMMM. You'd think they would have done that before signing day arrives already to secure Mingo. This is interesting.

It wouldnt matter if they offered him or not right now. He is all Dawg. State didnt offer Rogers to get Mingo either, we offered him bc we like him and he is the best QB in the state for 2020

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 01:57 AM
He is a good football player. And he can run. I've seen him outrun some cats who could run pretty good themselves. He is prolly a 4.5-6 guy But him committing to OM helps us with someone else. It will be ok.

He’s not elite though. He’s below average for a SEC DB. Not big enough for safety.

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 06:37 AM
I don't know of many kids that commit to a school less than 48 hours before signing day. That almost never happens. If you wait this late you commit on signing day.

Orchestrated commit right there. Not sure why some are melting though. He's never going to play QB for us and we aren't in the business of telling kids one thing then moving them when we feel like it doesn't work. We don't have a spot at QB and OM does. Good for them. Good for us.

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 06:45 AM
How in God's name does Ole Miss have 29 commitments?

Their 247 site says they have 28.

Hambone
02-05-2019, 07:18 AM
It matters because he’s a 4 star and gives people the perception that Ole Miss is recruiting at a high level. They don’t care if they win or not right now, it’s all about perception with Ole Miss and their delusions fan base.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 07:20 AM
Who did they sign on defense who will contribute? You can sign all the offensive talent you want, but as they've found out in this league, defense wins. They don't have one, and it looks to only be getting worse.

Really don't know much about their guys. Looking at their profiles, Sam Williams, Jonathan Haynes, and jamar Richardson look like pretty good JUCO signees on defense.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 07:20 AM
It matters because he’s a 4 star and gives people the perception that Ole Miss is recruiting at a high level. They don’t care if they win or not right now, it’s all about perception with Ole Miss and their delusions fan base.

So we didn't want plumlee?

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 07:26 AM
So we didn't want plumlee?

He was best available type player. He wasn’t a priority for us for two+ years. We didn’t go after him until we lost other players. I trained the kid. He’s a good kid but he’s never going to be a QB and he’s going to be limited at other positions.
He should’ve gone to USM and like others have said, don’t be surprised if he ends up there. This was the OM flip game. They announced it as a flip but he didn’t have more than a shirt offer from UGA. Funny they announced two flips in one day. One didn’t have a spot and the other was a walk on.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 07:26 AM
So who we watching now on signing day? Duncan, sanguinetti, young, mingo, Moore, and who else?

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 07:31 AM
Mingo, Moore, & Emerson

msstate7
02-05-2019, 07:36 AM
Mingo, Moore, & Emerson

Duncan is in or out?

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 07:37 AM
Duncan is in or out?

He’s in I believe. Would be surprised if not.

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 07:37 AM
Mingo, Moore, & Emerson

Exactly....an we need to pull all three to make this class a win

msstate7
02-05-2019, 07:38 AM
He was best available type player. He wasn’t a priority for us for two+ years. We didn’t go after him until we lost other players. I trained the kid. He’s a good kid but he’s never going to be a QB and he’s going to be limited at other positions.
He should’ve gone to USM and like others have said, don’t be surprised if he ends up there. This was the OM flip game. They announced it as a flip but he didn’t have more than a shirt offer from UGA. Funny they announced two flips in one day. One didn’t have a spot and the other was a walk on.

From reading the comments on him, it seems he will end up at wr or safety/cb. I know we could use 4-stars at those positions. I'm not eat up on losing him, but we do look dumb to act like he's a crap player when we wanted him too.

Yeah, flipping him from Georgia is just stupid

msstate7
02-05-2019, 07:39 AM
He?s in I believe. Would be surprised if not.

Good deal and thanks for the info

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 07:52 AM
I know I sound like I’m beating the kid up, and he’s a good kid, so I really don’t want it to be that way. But, he’s not a guy I believe will swing a class one way or the other. He’s chasing this QB dream and he’s not going to be a starting QB. He’s not a top end baseball player either. His speed is good on the baseball field and he’s solid defensively but he’s not an SEC hitter. I don’t blame him for going to OM because of the offense. He knows he’s a runner, not passer. We’ll see how it goes. I’ve always said he had no shot at playing QB if he baseball too. Just can’t miss that much football.

Bdawg
02-05-2019, 08:25 AM
Which is a good thing for us. Just relax

This is who I was referring to when talking about JRP committing to OM

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 08:42 AM
Rosebowl is awfully pessimistic on Bo Bounds.

Looks like Dylan Lawrence will get an offer.

Has anyone ever noticed how the last guy on our board ALWAYS GET AN OFFER?

Moorhead needs a win tomorrow. Fanbase is gonna take a hit if we miss on Moore and Mingo and get outrecruited by OM

ejdallas322
02-05-2019, 09:08 AM
It wouldnt matter if they offered him or not right now. He is all Dawg. State didnt offer Rogers to get Mingo either, we offered him bc we like him and he is the best QB in the state for 2020

Well yeah I know that. But Ole Miss would or will offer him before signing day just to secure the Mingo commitment bc thats Ole Miss and they know him and Rogers are close to being a package deal. They have a rlly tight relationship.

ejdallas322
02-05-2019, 09:09 AM
But yeah it's too late for that to happen which makes me think we have a more legitimate shot of getting Mingo more than any other teams.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 09:22 AM
So who we watching now on signing day? Duncan, sanguinetti, young, mingo, Moore, and who else?

Sanguinetti is out

Ari Gold
02-05-2019, 09:22 AM
Rosebowl is awfully pessimistic on Bo Bounds.

Looks like Dylan Lawrence will get an offer.

Has anyone ever noticed how the last guy on our board ALWAYS GET AN OFFER?

Moorhead needs a win tomorrow. Fanbase is gonna take a hit if we miss on Moore and Mingo and get outrecruited by OM

You and others might melt.. I won’t.

msu15
02-05-2019, 09:24 AM
You and others might melt.. I won’t.

Agreed

BeardoMSU
02-05-2019, 09:24 AM
You and others might melt.. I won’t.

These next 30 hours or so are going to be insufferably woke 'round here...

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 09:25 AM
You and others might melt.. I won’t.

Same here.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 09:34 AM
So we basically have a shot at Moore and Mingo, but neither we feel great about? No shot at Ealy? And OM now has a legit shot at landing Ealy, Mingo and even Young?

Am I understanding that right?

If Ole Miss lands those 3 in their current situation, it only confirms that these kids and their families care more about getting paid a decent amount Now over a huge payday down the road. There's absolutely zero reason for Ealy & Young to go to OM...none except $. And you could really include Mingo now that RR is their OC. Recruiting is so dirty, and so confusing, and makes me hate college football a little more and more each year. The NCAA was in OM's ass two years ago uncovering lies and payouts, yet they will sign a 5 star RB over us, Clemson, and Bama? Nice job, NCAA.

Glad I didn't follow recruiting closely this year on the advice of IYOK. I'll check in late tomorrow to see who is in the final signing.

Johnson85
02-05-2019, 09:41 AM
You and others might melt.. I won’t.

You won't melt b/c you are ok if the pessimistic version plays out? Or are you saying you don't expect to melt b/c you don't think the pessimistic version plays out?

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 09:41 AM
Rosebowl is awfully pessimistic on Bo Bounds.

Looks like Dylan Lawrence will get an offer.

Has anyone ever noticed how the last guy on our board ALWAYS GET AN OFFER?

Moorhead needs a win tomorrow. Fanbase is gonna take a hit if we miss on Moore and Mingo and get outrecruited by OM

Well, the fans should be pissed if that happens (missing on a lot of instate talent). It's still not a bad class, but considering the options, it would be disappointing.

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 09:42 AM
You and others might melt.. I won’t.

Why not melt?

Aren't we trying and hoping to win?

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 09:42 AM
So we basically have a shot at Moore and Mingo, but neither we feel great about? No shot at Ealy? And OM now has a legit shot at landing Ealy, Mingo and even Young?

Am I understanding that right?

If Ole Miss lands those 3 in their current situation, it only confirms that these kids and their families care more about getting paid a decent amount Now over a huge payday down the road. There's absolutely zero reason for Ealy & Young to go to OM...none except $. And you could really include Mingo now that RR is their OC. Recruiting is so dirty, and so confusing, and makes me hate college football a little more and more each year. The NCAA was in OM's ass two years ago uncovering lies and payouts, yet they will sign a 5 star RB over us, Clemson, and Bama? Nice job, NCAA.

Glad I didn't follow recruiting closely this year on the advice of IYOK. I'll check in late tomorrow to see who is in the final signing.

OM has zero shot at Young. ZERO
Melting over Ealy is damn ridiculous. Mingo would be the only disappointment in all that and hell, he's been committed to them for months.

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 09:43 AM
So we basically have a shot at Moore and Mingo, but neither we feel great about? No shot at Ealy? And OM now has a legit shot at landing Ealy, Mingo and even Young?

Am I understanding that right?

If Ole Miss lands those 3 in their current situation, it only confirms that these kids and their families care more about getting paid a decent amount Now over a huge payday down the road. There's absolutely zero reason for Ealy & Young to go to OM...none except $. And you could really include Mingo now that RR is their OC. Recruiting is so dirty, and so confusing, and makes me hate college football a little more and more each year. The NCAA was in OM's ass two years ago uncovering lies and payouts, yet they will sign a 5 star RB over us, Clemson, and Bama? Nice job, NCAA.

Glad I didn't follow recruiting closely this year on the advice of IYOK. I'll check in late tomorrow to see who is in the final signing.

We're still in it for Moore, Mingo and Ealy. Byron Young IS NOT going to unm.

HoopsDawg
02-05-2019, 09:45 AM
You and others might melt.. I won’t.

To me it's about closing the deal with Mingo. If our staff wins that battle with Ole Miss, I will feel decent about their ability to close. And we really need to add a playmaker at WR. As I have said for over a week, Ealy to Ole Miss. And talking about Ealy is like talking about Diwun Black. Waste of time. It would be cool to get Charles Moore, but I don't care either way.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 09:47 AM
OM has zero shot at Young. ZERO
Melting over Ealy is damn ridiculous. Mingo would be the only disappointment in all that and hell, he's been committed to them for months.

Glad BY isn't going to OM. Ealy I haven't expected to get. I'd love to get Moore and Mingo but not holding my breath

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 09:48 AM
We're still in it for Moore, Mingo and Ealy. Byron Young IS NOT going to unm.

Good deal. Thanks

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 09:49 AM
Nobody knows what Mingo is going to do, but it's hard to back out of a commitment last minute in most cases. I think if he was going to back out, it would've happened already. I hope he surprises me because I think we're a much better situation for him than OM, and it's not really close. I actually believe he's a DB if he goes to OM.

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 09:50 AM
Good deal. Thanks

You're welcome.

sscjr1
02-05-2019, 09:52 AM
Nobody knows what Mingo is going to do, but it's hard to back out of a commitment last minute in most cases. I think if he was going to back out, it would've happened already. I hope he surprises me because I think we're a much better situation for him than OM, and it's not really close. I actually believe he's a DB if he goes to OM.

I would think the exact opposite

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 09:54 AM
We're still in it for Moore, Mingo and Ealy. Byron Young IS NOT going to unm.

Were still in it for Ealy??

RezDog7
02-05-2019, 09:55 AM
Why not melt?

Aren't we trying and hoping to win?

You melt more than chocolate on a hot Easter Sunday; so what's new.

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 09:56 AM
You melt more than chocolate on a hot Easter Sunday; so what's new.

I just don't see the issue with it or why others get upset about it.

HancockCountyDog
02-05-2019, 10:02 AM
I keep hearing Clemson for Ealy.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 10:03 AM
Ealy is going to sign with OM. That was finalized a week or so ago.

RezDog7
02-05-2019, 10:05 AM
I just don't see the issue with it or why others get upset about it.

You don't the issue in melting over the decision of an 18 year old kid that may, or may not help the team you root for? There are things in life to worry about, but this ain't one of them.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 10:10 AM
Did brooks just get a 4th star for ark? They now have 11 4-stars. Morris is gonna be a problem

ETA... they aren't done. Henry 4-star juco Rb is likely ark bound. Oh and here's the kicker, the state of ark only has 4 4-stars. Miss has 16

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 10:10 AM
You don't the issue in melting over the decision of an 18 year old kid that may, or may not help the team you root for? There are things in life to worry about, but this ain't one of them.

Yea but at the end of the day, to each his own

Scared_Hitless
02-05-2019, 10:10 AM
Lets get this Wednesday wrapped up so the fanbase can come off the ledge. Good or bad it is what it is. Recruiting is all relationships Moorhead should have more success in 2020 even if the players are not as highly rated. One thing I like with Joe so far is he has shown the ability to get Qbs which is the most important thing. Need our new WR coach to get us some studs going forward.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 10:12 AM
Let's look at what we're doing instate IMO:

Dean- hate we couldn't get him
Cross- maybe best player in MS (MSU)
Ealy- Baseball- no biggie
Pickering- top 2 in MS (MSU)
Moore- State or AU (I think we get him for some reason)
Young- hate we couldn't get him- Baker 17'd us (Baker is 17r in my book)
Handy- waste of a scholarship
Turnage- another one I wish we could've gotten
Hall- bust IMO
Jackson- Lot of potential we just couldn't pull him
Russell- Underrated due to injuries (MSU)
Mingo- Cross your fingers
J. Jones- Big time (MSU)
Plumlee- Overrated guy without a true position
R. Jones- Hate we never got on him
Cunningham- underrated (MSU)

Close to pulling about half the top talent in MS. Really, better than half if you exclude the 4 guys that really aren't that big a deal IMO.

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 10:17 AM
Let's look at what we're doing instate IMO:

Dean- hate we couldn't get him
Cross- maybe best player in MS (MSU)
Ealy- Baseball- no biggie
Pickering- top 2 in MS (MSU)
Moore- State or AU (I think we get him for some reason)
Young- hate we couldn't get him- Baker 17'd us (Baker is 17r in my book)
Handy- waste of a scholarship
Turnage- another one I wish we could've gotten
Hall- bust IMO
Jackson- Lot of potential we just couldn't pull him
Russell- Underrated due to injuries (MSU)
Mingo- Cross your fingers
J. Jones- Big time (MSU)
Plumlee- Overrated guy without a true position
R. Jones- Hate we never got on him
Cunningham- underrated (MSU)

Close to pulling about half the top talent in MS. Really, better than half if you exclude the 4 guys that really aren't that big a deal IMO.

That's a very accurate assessment.

GreenheadDawg
02-05-2019, 10:22 AM
Did brooks just get a 4th star for ark? They now have 11 4-stars. Morris is gonna be a problem

ETA... they aren't done. Henry 4-star juco Rb is likely ark bound. Oh and here's the kicker, the state of ark only has 4 4-stars. Miss has 16

That’s disheartening. We have 5. So after tomorrow it’s possible the only school we are ahead of is Vandy. Is that right?

Liverpooldawg
02-05-2019, 10:27 AM
Why not melt?

Aren't we trying and hoping to win?

Melting is more effective if you don't do it over everything.

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 10:31 AM
That?s disheartening. We have 5. So after tomorrow it?s possible the only school we are ahead of is Vandy. Is that right?

According to 24/7 we should have 6 that are 4 star or higher on the composite. Adding either Moore or Mingo would add to that number.

I will add this and it's important. We have a lot of guys that are either really close to a 4 star on the 24/7 composite or are a 4 star on other sites. Brandon Cunningham is a 3 star on the 24/7 composite, but on 24/7 actual ranking he's a 4 star 90 overall. Kareem Walker and Fred Peters are 4 stars on Rivals. JaVonta Payton and Quinton Torbor are 4 stars on ESPN. So we currently have 11 guys who are ranked a 4 star on one of the 3 major sites.

So it's not as bad as it sounds with only 5 four star guys. Hell ESPN has us with 10 4 stars.

Turfdawg67
02-05-2019, 10:32 AM
I don't know of many kids that commit to a school less than 48 hours before signing day. That almost never happens. If you wait this late you commit on signing day.

Orchestrated commit right there. Not sure why some are melting though. He's never going to play QB for us and we aren't in the business of telling kids one thing then moving them when we feel like it doesn't work. We don't have a spot at QB and OM does. Good for them. Good for us.

Who is melting? Oh, let me guess... glad I can't see his posts.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 10:32 AM
That’s disheartening. We have 5. So after tomorrow it’s possible the only school we are ahead of is Vandy. Is that right?

And recruiting rankings are about as real as a woman that's not crazy. Well, maybe not that bad but you get the idea. It's easy to spot the top guys but just like Handy and Hall etc. it's mostly BS. Brooks wasn't considered one of our top recruits. Funny how he and Washington get bumps last minute. We get screwed by the recruiting services.

deadheaddawg
02-05-2019, 10:37 AM
Interesting that Sky has 11 four stars. We have 5

But we have a higher avg than they do.

State 88.9
Arky 88.42

Turfdawg67
02-05-2019, 10:43 AM
Why not melt?

Aren't we trying and hoping to win?

And how the hell is bitching helping?? Does it show you care, or just how little of a life you people have? JoMo has worked his ass off and hopefully it pays dividends for us tomorrow. If it doesn't, and you and a handful "melt"... it will make NO difference for next year! ZERO. Maybe it'll make you feel better, but that'll last just a short period too.

chef dixon
02-05-2019, 10:45 AM
Yall already know how Shotgun is

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 10:47 AM
Yeah I would love for one of the people melting to show me data as to how their melting has helped our program. There's a difference between melting and constructive criticism and/or analysis.

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 10:48 AM
And recruiting rankings are about as real as a woman that's not crazy. Well, maybe not that bad but you get the idea. It's easy to spot the top guys but just like Handy and Hall etc. it's mostly BS. Brooks wasn't considered one of our top recruits. Funny how he and Washington get bumps last minute. We get screwed by the recruiting services.

While I agree with you to a point about getting screwed by recruiting service, it's not their fault we aren't going to sign a full class. Really no excuse. This was a huge year in MS as everyone knows. We will see how the staff does next year. I've said it a thousand times, this staff works at recruiting, but it's a results based business. Coming in second on construction bids is no good and same goes for recruiting. I'm willing to see how next year pans out, on and off the field but nothing gives me the warm and fuzzies. yet.

HancockCountyDog
02-05-2019, 10:49 AM
Yeah I would love for one of the people melting to show me data as to how their melting has helped our program. There's a difference between melting and constructive criticism and/or analysis.

My guess is that it helps as much as it helps to bash those that melt.

Then again I may need some more data to support my theory.

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 10:50 AM
Yeah I would love for one of the people melting to show me data as to how their melting has helped our program. There's a difference between melting and constructive criticism and/or analysis.

Fair point. Just as the opposite side of everything is rosy, when it isn't doesn't portray what's really going on or help either for that matter. This is an unforgiving league in every freaking sport.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-05-2019, 10:53 AM
While I agree with you to a point about getting screwed by recruiting service, it's not their fault we aren't going to sign a full class. Really no excuse. This was a huge year in MS as everyone knows. We will see how the staff does next year. I've said it a thousand times, this staff works at recruiting, but it's a results based business. Coming in second on construction bids is no good and same goes for recruiting. I'm willing to see how next year pans out, on and off the field but nothing gives me the warm and fuzzies. yet.

I'm not going to melt over not signing Ealy or Mingo, but I'm melting over that we are second to last in the SEC with total commits at 19. I hope we're better at evaluating talent and developing players better than the rest of the SEC (which we're not) and that most of these top guys in the class live up to their potential. Otherwise it's like we self imposed scholarship reductions and putting us further behind.

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 10:58 AM
Fair point. Just as the opposite side of everything is rosy, when it isn't doesn't portray what's really going on or help either for that matter. This is an unforgiving league in every freaking sport.

Very unforgiving league! Every sport in the SEC is an arms race.

Scared_Hitless
02-05-2019, 10:59 AM
I'm not going to melt over not signing Ealy or Mingo, but I'm melting over that we are second to last in the SEC with total commits at 19. I hope we're better at evaluating talent and developing players better than the rest of the SEC (which we're not) and that most of these top guys in the class live up to their potential. Otherwise it's like we self imposed scholarship reductions and putting us further behind.

I am with you on this undersigning just seems like a bad position to put yourself in. After December signing period we need to reevaluate how we handle things. We lost 4 or 5 good players by not signing them early. Bedford and Lockhart are going to be solid players. Then raid the G5 for guys you had on your board to fill missed spots.

1bigdawg
02-05-2019, 11:00 AM
Waiting on IYOK's predictions.

ScoobaDawg
02-05-2019, 11:02 AM
So someone tee it up for me.... because I don't feel like doing the legwork this time.
How many did we sign at Dec. How many can we sign tomorrow (_+_ = 32)
Of those # we can sign, how many are solid commits.. and what should we be watching for the rest of the day and tomorrow.

The CL wrote up a pretty good article about this for UM but Tyler didn't do it for us... Figures...

ScoobaDawg
02-05-2019, 11:03 AM
Yall already know how Shotgun is

Exactly.. I'll never understand why he is how he is.. but he isn't changing..

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 11:04 AM
I am with you on this undersigning just seems like a bad position to put yourself in. After December signing period we need to reevaluate how we handle things. We lost 4 or 5 good players by not signing them early. Bedford and Lockhart are going to be solid players. Then raid the G5 for guys you had on your board to fill missed spots.

I don't agree on Bedford (still would've offered him). He's a project. Lockhart has a lot to work with though.

ScoobaDawg
02-05-2019, 11:05 AM
Yeah I would love for one of the people melting to show me data as to how their melting has helped our program. There's a difference between melting and constructive criticism and/or analysis.

Can you on the flip side show me how THEIR melting..aka...Shotgun's has hurt our program?
It's not measurable.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 11:05 AM
While I agree with you to a point about getting screwed by recruiting service, it's not their fault we aren't going to sign a full class. Really no excuse. This was a huge year in MS as everyone knows. We will see how the staff does next year. I've said it a thousand times, this staff works at recruiting, but it's a results based business. Coming in second on construction bids is no good and same goes for recruiting. I'm willing to see how next year pans out, on and off the field but nothing gives me the warm and fuzzies. yet.

If we pull Mingo and Moore (big ifs, I know) then I think we're good. Miss on both, and I agree we can complain a little bit. But still a solid class.

Ifyouonlyknew
02-05-2019, 11:07 AM
Waiting on IYOK's predictions.

I got you tonight

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 11:08 AM
Waiting on IYOK's predictions.

that should be easy since the only wildcards are Moore and Mingo. I think we get Moore and loose Mingo.....but maybe I'm just optimistic....LOL

msstate7
02-05-2019, 11:09 AM
If we pull Mingo and Moore (big ifs, I know) then I think we're good. Miss on both, and I agree we can complain a little bit. But still a solid class.

At this point, we pull both, I'll be very happy. We pull 1, and I'll probably just let it go

Dawgology
02-05-2019, 11:09 AM
So we basically have a shot at Moore and Mingo, but neither we feel great about? No shot at Ealy? And OM now has a legit shot at landing Ealy, Mingo and even Young?

Am I understanding that right?

If Ole Miss lands those 3 in their current situation, it only confirms that these kids and their families care more about getting paid a decent amount Now over a huge payday down the road. There's absolutely zero reason for Ealy & Young to go to OM...none except $. And you could really include Mingo now that RR is their OC. Recruiting is so dirty, and so confusing, and makes me hate college football a little more and more each year. The NCAA was in OM's ass two years ago uncovering lies and payouts, yet they will sign a 5 star RB over us, Clemson, and Bama? Nice job, NCAA.

Glad I didn't follow recruiting closely this year on the advice of IYOK. I'll check in late tomorrow to see who is in the final signing.

Same shit different day. Nothing ever really changes.

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 11:10 AM
At this point, we pull both, I'll be very happy. We pull 1, and I'll probably just let it go

My sentiments exactly...

Dawgology
02-05-2019, 11:12 AM
Lets get this Wednesday wrapped up so the fanbase can come off the ledge. Good or bad it is what it is. Recruiting is all relationships Moorhead should have more success in 2020 even if the players are not as highly rated. One thing I like with Joe so far is he has shown the ability to get Qbs which is the most important thing. Need our new WR coach to get us some studs going forward.

Fanbase will still be on the ledge after it's over. I think a lot have lost faith in the new coach. We will see though.

Dawgology
02-05-2019, 11:16 AM
As usual the narrative will be "just wait till next year because we have 'ins' with all the elite athletes in Mississippi and they love MSU and they have great relationships with our coaches" until that recruiting season gets here then the "well, but..." starts up and we get outrecruited again. So tired of this same song and dance. Mediocrity at its finest.

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 11:20 AM
Exactly.. I'll never understand why he is how he is.. but he isn't changing..

We are all built differently emotionally. Why is Kirby Smart a wild man on the sideline Joe shows very little emotion?

I think it's best to just realize that we are all different and just to accept that it doesn't make one person better and another worse.

My guess is that you're more reserved. That's cool.

RezDog7
02-05-2019, 11:23 AM
Yeah I would love for one of the people melting to show me data as to how their melting has helped our program. There's a difference between melting and constructive criticism and/or analysis.

This. I don't know the ins and outs of recruiting to know what the real problem is, but I've followed it enough to know that we aren't as good as others for whatever reason, yet we still compete on the field with the programs similar to ours.

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 11:23 AM
My guess is that it helps as much as it helps to bash those that melt.

Then again I may need some more data to support my theory.

You have plenty of data to support the theory. Having zero data in melting being helpful is data to prove that it doesn't help. I just don't get why grown men act like this. They take everything OM reporters say as truth when they know it's all fabricated, then they start having estrogen parties and crying all the damn time about how bad we suck.

Nut up and stop the melt.

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 11:24 AM
Can you on the flip side show me how THEIR melting..aka...Shotgun's has hurt our program?
It's not measurable.

That's the difference. I never said it hurt the program. I just said it didn't help. And it doesn't. So why do it? All it does is make us look bad on a public forum that is able to be accessed by recruits and coaches of other programs to use against us. We are unstable, see look how bad it is over at that program, etc. That crap has already been used against us so what does it do to benefit us to continue?

Scared_Hitless
02-05-2019, 11:24 AM
I for one do not mind that Joe is pretty calm on the sidelines, my wife on the other hand says he has no fire or passion. It doesn't bother me lets just win if Joe comes out and we suck on offense again when it matters well you gotta figure it out long term. I will be in the Dome for our opener hopefully KT and Kylin become what we thought years ago.

I think for recruiting we are always just going to be MSU, it sucks but with Bama and all the other dominant recruiters around us we will take MS kids that are fans and hope for the best everywhere else. Hell chasing Emery killed our RB class and for nothing he ended up at LSU.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 11:31 AM
Hell chasing Emery killed our RB class and for nothing he ended up at LSU.

Should've been obvious from the start. I said LSU the moment I saw his rating and where he was from. How many borderline 5-stars have we ever taken from Louisiana that LSU wanted from the start? Kid played us

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 11:36 AM
Should've been obvious from the start. I said LSU the moment I saw his rating and where he was from. How many borderline 5-stars have we ever taken from Louisiana that LSU wanted from the start? Kid played us

Can't not recruit kids like this. If you don't want to compete with the big boys then we need to lower our expectations. We aren't going to get hardly any ever. But it's never wasted time when you get your name in the spotlight with big time programs on a recruit. Having a hat on a table for an elite prospect means a lot these days. And kids talk to each other.

You never know who Emery may talk to later down the road that said MSU treated him right and that might influence their decision to come to MSU.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 11:38 AM
Can't not recruit kids like this. If you don't want to compete with the big boys then we need to lower our expectations. We aren't going to get hardly any ever. But it's never wasted time when you get your name in the spotlight with big time programs on a recruit. Having a hat on a table for an elite prospect means a lot these days. And kids talk to each other.

You never know who Emery may talk to later down the road that said MSU treated him right and that might influence their decision to come to MSU.

We absolutely should've recruited him and others like him. Just seemed like we put way too many of our eggs in his basket. We seemed to be caught off guard once he inevitably decided to go blue blood

msu15
02-05-2019, 11:45 AM
In regards to "killing our RB class", I am happy with Witherspoon and Walker.

Ari Gold
02-05-2019, 11:48 AM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don’t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

msstate7
02-05-2019, 11:49 AM
In regards to "killing our RB class", I am happy with Witherspoon and Walker.

They could end up being good. There's not 1 other sec other between them though, so you're definetely looking at them in a best case scenario

GreenheadDawg
02-05-2019, 11:50 AM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don’t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

Strong finish. Very strong. I don’t know why people get mad. All you can do is laugh because it’s comical at this point

the_real_MSU_is_us
02-05-2019, 11:50 AM
Can't not recruit kids like this. If you don't want to compete with the big boys then we need to lower our expectations.

It seems we can either A) get solid players and a well rounded roster, or B) Go after elite our of state guys we never get and wind up with huge holes. Option C) is target elite out of state kids and get them like Bama does, but that's not something we can do. I say we should pick A), y'all cna say I'm a 'po' ole Missippi' 'tate" fan if you want too, I think it's pretty clear what reality is though.


You never know who Emery may talk to later down the road that said MSU treated him right and that might influence their decision to come to MSU.

yeah but at what opportunity cost? You're right the efforts to get Emery may not be 100% wasted, but it's still far more wasted than if we'd gone after a lower target like Gray and gotten him. A missed 5*, no matter how much he loves us, will do less good for us than a low 4* that signs. Ultimately you have to spend you efforts in the way that helps the most overall. A 5* RB from Louisiana is pretty much always going to end this way.

Personally I'll be interested to see how Moorhead adjusts next cycle. Does he go after more LA kids like Emery and Alabama kids like DJ James? Or does he target the kids with no fandoms like King Ani or Eric Gray? Seems like you can have success out of state if you target guys with no college they love, but the Washington' of the world just use us and flip.

MetEdDawg
02-05-2019, 11:50 AM
We absolutely should've recruited him and others like him. Just seemed like we put way too many of our eggs in his basket. We seemed to be caught off guard once he inevitably decided to go blue blood

I think it's taking our staff a little time to adjust to SEC recruiting and how to recruit at MSU. Not to be unexpected considering how much of our staff we had to replace. We are in a weird spot already in recruiting. We recruit elite players, but we have to be able to find kids that we can develop to fill the class out. Our staff hasn't had a chance to see these kids as much in person except when they were seniors. Decided disadvantage for them.

This next group of kids we should have a better handle on, but it's going to add to the difficulty because of how much this 2020 MS class seems to lack in terms of quality players. 10-15 max that could be SEC players? That's really really tough.

GreenheadDawg
02-05-2019, 11:50 AM
They could end up being good. There's not 1 other sec other between them though, so you're definetely looking at them in a best case scenario


That’s about the only angle we have at this point.

Bdawg
02-05-2019, 11:56 AM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don’t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

Ouch!!

bluelightstar
02-05-2019, 11:58 AM
Long 3 years

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 12:01 PM
Strong finish. Very strong. I don?t know why people get mad. All you can do is laugh because it?s comical at this point

How can you look at that and think Strong finish?

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:03 PM
How can you look at that and think Strong finish?

Don't get mad... he left off the **

sandwolf
02-05-2019, 12:07 PM
And how the hell is bitching helping?? Does it show you care, or just how little of a life you people have? JoMo has worked his ass off and hopefully it pays dividends for us tomorrow. If it doesn't, and you and a handful "melt"... it will make NO difference for next year! ZERO. Maybe it'll make you feel better, but that'll last just a short period too.
I kind of feel like you're melting over shotgun melting....

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:09 PM
So assuming ari is right, since early signing period, we've done what...

Losses: Moore, James, Washington

Added: Duncan (hopefully)

Who am I missing?

GreenheadDawg
02-05-2019, 12:11 PM
Don't get mad... he left off the **

Yeh he’s too busy being a smart ass most of the time.

Rick Danko
02-05-2019, 12:15 PM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don’t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

🤦*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️

NCDawg
02-05-2019, 12:16 PM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don?t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

If this is true, that is bad-really bad. Wonder if Pickering is wavering, also? Like Moorhead said during one of his press conferences when someone questioned our losing so much after his promises of championships, Heisman, etc., when he was hired, "reality has set in.".

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 12:17 PM
Yeh he’s too busy being a smart ass most of the time.

Quit taking shit so personal. Have you never encountered a smart ass before? Grow a pair. IF you don't like what I post there is an ignore feature. Try it out.

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 12:17 PM
So assuming ari is right, since early signing period, we've done what...

Losses: Moore, James, Washington

Added: Duncan (hopefully)

Who am I missing?

Too be fair, keeping Emerson should count, he was all but gone in most people's mind, including mine. It's been a disappointing close, but i'm not shocked.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-05-2019, 12:19 PM
In regards to "killing our RB class", I am happy with Witherspoon and Walker.

Happy yes, but they're both depth guys. If Hill can't stay healthy this year, we are in trouble. Even Rosebowl says this RB class is light, Huff missed on big fish that threw everything else off, and we have to sign a top shelf RB next year.

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:22 PM
Too be fair, keeping Emerson should count, he was all but gone in most people's mind, including mine. It's been a disappointing close, but i'm not shocked.

Fair enough, I suppose Lawrence will be an add too. If this holds up, we'll finish most likely 6th in the west... bout where we always do. Considering this was a historic level of talent in the state, maybe we can bury the myth that joe is next level recruiter.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 12:23 PM
The word "melt/melting" is so overused. You guys bitching about the "melting" have become far more annoying than those you're whining about. Different folks have different reactions...deal with it, or get off messageboards bc that's the way it is.

To some folks, a 20ish finish is great and will lead to more 6-8 Win seasons which they are thrilled with. To others, a 20ish finish means near the bottom of the league and while 6-8 wins is good, they know we won't be competing for any Titles or Sugar Bowls with 20ish classes more than likely, so they're upset we aren't taking a step forward in a big MS recruiting year.
Neither of these people are wrong...they just have different hopes and expectations for the program. As soon as everybody can agree that neither of these opinions is wrong, the quicker we can discuss recruiting instead of discussing melting vs not melting.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-05-2019, 12:23 PM
I think it's taking our staff a little time to adjust to SEC recruiting and how to recruit at MSU. Not to be unexpected considering how much of our staff we had to replace. We are in a weird spot already in recruiting. We recruit elite players, but we have to be able to find kids that we can develop to fill the class out. Our staff hasn't had a chance to see these kids as much in person except when they were seniors. Decided disadvantage for them.

This next group of kids we should have a better handle on, but it's going to add to the difficulty because of how much this 2020 MS class seems to lack in terms of quality players. 10-15 max that could be SEC players? That's really really tough.

Right, but just like this season we don't have to change our approach a complete 180 overnight. We should've simplified the offense and we should have been more conservative with our recruiting approach until Joe/staff got their feet wet. We swang for the fences and are facing a tough reality that maybe he's not as good as we thought and/or the SEC is a different beast than the Big 10.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 12:24 PM
Too be fair, keeping Emerson should count, he was all but gone in most people's mind, including mine. It's been a disappointing close, but i'm not shocked.

I agree with everything you've posted today

HancockCountyDog
02-05-2019, 12:24 PM
Lets wait 24 hour and see what shakes out. I'm not as dialed in as most, but I'm not being told its over yet.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:25 PM
I'm not sure we lose Moore yet. I'm just ready for this recruiting season to be done. Next round looks good for us so far and I think there will be less drama.

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 12:26 PM
The word "melt/melting" is so overused. You guys bitching about the "melting" have become far more annoying than those you're whining about. Different folks have different reactions...deal with it, or get off messageboards bc that's the way it is.

To some folks, a 20ish finish is great and will lead to more 6-8 Win seasons which they are thrilled with. To others, a 20ish finish means near the bottom of the league and while 6-8 wins is good, they know we won't be competing for any Titles or Sugar Bowls with 20ish classes more than likely, so they're upset we aren't taking a step forward in a big MS recruiting year.
Neither of these people are wrong...they just have different hopes and expectations for the program. As soon as everybody can agree that neither of these opinions is wrong, the quicker we can discuss recruiting instead of discussing melting vs not melting.

bingo........

bluelightstar
02-05-2019, 12:26 PM
There will be less drama because there’s less talent

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:29 PM
There will be less drama because there’s less talent

Yep, 16 4-star or better this season and only 7 next year

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:30 PM
There will be less drama because there’s less talent

Not at the skill spots. Skill spots are deeper. We don't have the defensive talent next round or as many good OL.

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 12:32 PM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don?t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

so we are saying that our staff followed up a mediocre season by not closing in December followed by not closing in February.....doesn't instill much confidence as we are starting to develop a pattern....I'll go now

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 12:34 PM
Lets wait 24 hour and see what shakes out. I'm not as dialed in as most, but I'm not being told its over yet.

Agree, don't throw in the towel just yet.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:36 PM
Agree, don't throw in the towel just yet.

State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-05-2019, 12:37 PM
There will be less drama because there?s less talent

Less drama = more MSU commits

Agree there may not be the same number of players, but still plenty talented.


Yep, 16 4-star or better this season and only 7 next year

We won't get close to 16 next year, but we all know the number of 4 stars will change between now and signing day. Hell the Brandon QB isn't rated yet.

HancockCountyDog
02-05-2019, 12:37 PM
The word "melt/melting" is so overused. You guys bitching about the "melting" have become far more annoying than those you're whining about. Different folks have different reactions...deal with it, or get off messageboards bc that's the way it is.

To some folks, a 20ish finish is great and will lead to more 6-8 Win seasons which they are thrilled with. To others, a 20ish finish means near the bottom of the league and while 6-8 wins is good, they know we won't be competing for any Titles or Sugar Bowls with 20ish classes more than likely, so they're upset we aren't taking a step forward in a big MS recruiting year.
Neither of these people are wrong...they just have different hopes and expectations for the program. As soon as everybody can agree that neither of these opinions is wrong, the quicker we can discuss recruiting instead of discussing melting vs not melting.

I'm not sure posts like this are allowed within 24 hours of signing day. Way too rational. GTSOH.

Great post - I'm not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.

KOdawg1
02-05-2019, 12:38 PM
I think Moore comes back around. He wouldn't have reached back out to us if he wasn't seriously considering it

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:39 PM
State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

What exactly are we quitting? Are we gonna positive think them into our class?

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:40 PM
Less drama = more MSU commits

Agree there may not be the same number of players, but still plenty talented.



We won't get close to 16 next year, but we all know the number of 4 stars will change between now and signing day. Hell the Brandon QB isn't rated yet.

They can change the other way too, so I think at the moment is the best place to be

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:41 PM
What exactly are we quitting? Are we gonna positive think them into our class?

Giving up on Moorhead and this recruiting cycle for the most part. It's just a MSU way of life.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 12:42 PM
Giving up on Moorhead and this recruiting cycle for the most part. It's just a MSU way of life.

That's like saying Browns fans are always quick to write off super bowl hopes. There's a precedent

NCDawg
02-05-2019, 12:44 PM
State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

Don't know what you mean by "quitters." State fans just see disappointment year after year and it gets old. Most State fans still support their team, however, hoping that someday we can return to the SEC Championship again.

Cooterpoot
02-05-2019, 12:47 PM
That's like saying Browns fans are always quick to write off super bowl hopes. There's a precedent

It's with everything for the most part. I'm not immune to it either. It's a habitual way of thinking for our fans. Baseball and now maybe women's basketball is the exception.

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 12:51 PM
That's like saying Browns fans are always quick to write off super bowl hopes. There's a precedent

That's pure gold! so true too......

msstate7
02-05-2019, 12:51 PM
Hopefully we get a good surprise tomorrow. I certainly never expected Simmons when we got him.

HoopsDawg
02-05-2019, 12:51 PM
State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

I would say the opposite. Maybe we should quit caring so much but we don't.

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 12:55 PM
It's extremely easy to get frustrated. Everyone wants to win, I think we just all express it in different ways. The differing views on here by so many good posters is what makes this board so great. Heck if we all thought the same way it wouldn't be so entertaining. I prefer to let things play out, before reacting, but I understand the angst of others who don't. Last years mens basketball and baseball season is one of the reasons I like to see things play out to their end, cause you never know what can happen.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-05-2019, 12:55 PM
State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

Is that you Lamar Peters?

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
02-05-2019, 12:57 PM
It's extremely easy to get frustrated. Everyone wants to win, I think we just all express it in different ways. The differing views on here by so many good posters is what makes this board so great. Heck if we all thought the same way it wouldn't be so entertaining. I prefer to let things play out, before reacting, but I understand the angst of others who don't. Last years mens basketball and baseball season is one the reasons I like to see things play out to their end, cause you never know what can happen.

Hard to have expectations of winning the SEC and being realistic that it likely won't happen.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 12:57 PM
Is that you Lamar Peters?

+1

msstate7
02-05-2019, 01:00 PM
Hard to have expectations of winning the SEC and being realistic that it likely won't happen.

I don't even get caught up in crazy notions like winning the sec. I just wanna get a NY6 bowl every 4 years or so. This is why I'm salty about this season... the table was set for us to be there this season. We flopped. It may be a long time before the cards deal out right again

Bothrops
02-05-2019, 01:02 PM
Well it's bad when our competition is stockpiling elite talent and we are struggling to get over 20. I think the Ole Miss class will have some diamonds that come through for them in time. I don't think their class sucks despite how unbalanced it may be. Arkansas is kind of a shocker, but their blue bloods are tired of getting their asses kicked. Although I do think they get some help from the ranking services. Bama, LSU, A&M, and Auburn, are loaded up and balanced. We need those to have inside problems, major coaching deficiencies, and no working qb to get any of them, and still may not be able to do it very often.

We need to get an offense going that can put up some major points on people.

Turfdawg67
02-05-2019, 01:09 PM
Can you on the flip side show me how THEIR melting..aka...Shotgun's has hurt our program?
It's not measurable.

Once again people take a reply and want to isolate it... he replied what he did b/c Shotgun implied that melting means you care and want to win. Conversely, if we don't melt, I guess we don't care. Bitching, complaining, melting on ED doesn't hurt our program... but certainly doesn't help it, as Shotgun want to think it does. And before the rabbit hole goes deeper, I'm done w/ this topic personally.

GreenheadDawg
02-05-2019, 01:11 PM
Quit taking shit so personal. Have you never encountered a smart ass before? Grow a pair. IF you don't like what I post there is an ignore feature. Try it out.

Didn?t take it personal but it?s annoying watching you be an ass clown with every post. Good idea on the ignore feature though

RezDog7
02-05-2019, 01:22 PM
What exactly are we quitting? Are we gonna positive think them into our class?

This is actually pretty funny and made me lol.

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 01:28 PM
So someone tee it up for me.... because I don't feel like doing the legwork this time.
How many did we sign at Dec. How many can we sign tomorrow (_+_ = 32)
Of those # we can sign, how many are solid commits.. and what should we be watching for the rest of the day and tomorrow.

The CL wrote up a pretty good article about this for UM but Tyler didn't do it for us... Figures...


It was posted after the Ole miss story.

Where Mississippi State stands ahead of National Signing Day
Tyler Horka, Mississippi Clarion Ledger Published 11:02 a.m. CT Feb. 5, 2019


STARKVILLE - Mississippi State signed 14 players during the early signing window in December. Two months later, the Bulldogs can reach double-digits once again on National Signing Day.

Head coach Joe Moorhead has five hard commits heading into Wednesday, and he has his eyes on a handful of other targets who could bolster this 2019 class. Here's a look at Mississippi State's early signees, commits and targets broken down by position.

Quarterback
Early signees (1): Garrett Shrader
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
The quarterback position was simple this offseason. Rising junior Keytaon Thompson has been with the program for three full seasons and is expected to be the starter in his third.

Garrett Shrader, though, enrolled early and could challenge Thompson for the starting job. Either way, Moorhead feels comfortable with who he has in the QB room heading into the 2019 season.

Running back
Early signees (1): Lee Witherspoon
Commits expected to sign (1): Kareem Walker
Targets: (1): Jerrion Ealy
Witherspoon and Walker will add much-need depth to Mississippi State?s roster behind rising junior Kylin Hill. The story of the day in Mississippi will be where the third-ranked running back in the country, Jerrion Ealy, signs.

Ealy, a Jackson Prep product, de-committed from Ole Miss in early January, and Mississippi State felt it could sway the talented dual-sport player to Starkville. Clemson, however, has emerged as the leading landing spot for Ealy.

Ealy is weighing more than just where he wants to play college football. Ealy is also a top MLB Draft prospect, and his decision very much has to do with which path allows him to keep his aspirations of being a major-leaguer alive.

Wide receiver
Early signees (2): Quinton Torbor, Kyziah Pruitt
Commits expected to sign (1): JaVonta Payton
Targets (2): Jonathan Mingo, Kendrell Scurry
Mingo is another in-state wildcard. He?s committed to Ole Miss, but the Brandon High School product could have Mississippi State on his radar.

Moorhead needs a difference-making wide receiver in this class. The wide out position was unstable in 2018. Torbor, Pruitt and Payton are nice three-star pieces who could add some stability, but Mingo is a 6-foot-2, 200-pound focal point of any offense he's in.

Mingo took an official visit to Mississippi State two weeks ago while most of MSU's signees and commits were also on campus. He has since taken official visits to Ole Miss and Georgia, though. He might be a long-shot to sign with State at this point, but Moorhead and company could definitely use him.

Tight end
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
Don?t be too scared by those zeroes if you?re a Mississippi State fan. The Bulldogs will have six tight ends on the 2019 roster, led by rising senior Farrod Green. Rising junior Dontea Jones should also play a role next season, as could redshirt freshman Geor'quarius Spivey.

Offensive line
Early signees (4): Charles Cross, Nick Pendley, LaQuinston Sharp, Brevyn Jones
Commits expected to sign (1): Brandon Cunningham
Targets (0)
In a class that will have five offensive linemen, Cross is the crown jewel. The Laurel High School standout made himself a five-star player with a stout week of practices at the Under Armour All-American game last month. Moorhead went heavy with the offensive line recruits, and he's happy he did so. He's adamant that his team will be able to hang with anyone at the line of scrimmage.

Safety
Early signees (3): Jarrian Jones, Javeious Purvis, Fred Peters
Commits expected to sign (1): Martin Emerson Jr.
Targets (0)
When Emerson Jr. signs on Wednesday, Mississippi State will have landed a pretty good crop of safeties. Jones is the cornerstone in the class. The four-star Northwest Rankin product can do it all and will be a valuable addition for defensive coordinator Bob Shoop.

Jones can play corner back, safety or even wide receiver. Odds are he?ll stay on the back end of Mississippi State?s defense after losing Mark McLaurin and Johnathan Abram.

Corner back
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (1): Collin Duncan
Mississippi State is in a good spot at corner with Maurice Smitherman, Cameron Dantzler and Tyler Williams all returning after getting a good amount of reps in 2018. Dantzler and Smitherman emerged as the starters, and Williams is a viable backup.

Adding another piece in Duncan, though, would be huge for State. Duncan is a three-star player from St. James High School in Montgomery, Alabama. Indications are he has solid intentions to sign with the Bulldogs.

Linebacker
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)

Defensive end
Early signees (3): Jack Harris, Ani Izuchukwu, De?Monte Russell
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (1): Charles Moore
The early signees are all nice additions for a defensive end corps that lost a lot of production over the offseason. Louisville High School four-star recruit Charles Moore would cap off the class in a big way.

Moore committed to Mississippi State in August 2017 before de-committing a year and a half later, one month before National Signing Day. He appears to be heading to Auburn, but the Bulldogs are still very much in the running. They could use Moore's talent on the d-line.

Defensive tackle
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (1): Nathan Pickering
Targets (1): Byron Young
Until Cross received his five-star designation last month, Pickering was the highest-rated recruit in Mississippi State?s 2019 class. The borderline five-star Seminary High School product appeared to open his recruitment a bit at the end of last year, but it is believed that he will undoubtedly become a Bulldog on Wednesday.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 01:31 PM
Didn?t take it personal but it?s annoying watching you be an ass clown with every post. Good idea on the ignore feature though

hahaha don't even know what you are talking about. I don't let certain posters get to me like you obviously do since you have kept track of my posts. hahahaha

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 01:33 PM
It was posted after the Ole miss story.

Where Mississippi State stands ahead of National Signing Day
Tyler Horka, Mississippi Clarion Ledger Published 11:02 a.m. CT Feb. 5, 2019

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STARKVILLE ? Mississippi State signed 14 players during the early signing window in December. Two months later, the Bulldogs can reach double-digits once again on National Signing Day.

Head coach Joe Moorhead has five hard commits heading into Wednesday, and he has his eyes on a handful of other targets who could bolster this 2019 class. Here?s a look at Mississippi State?s early signees, commits and targets broken down by position.

Quarterback
Early signees (1): Garrett Shrader
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
The quarterback position was simple this offseason. Rising junior Keytaon Thompson has been with the program for three full seasons and is expected to be the starter in his third.

Garrett Shrader, though, enrolled early and could challenge Thompson for the starting job. Either way, Moorhead feels comfortable with who he has in the QB room heading into the 2019 season.

Running back
Early signees (1): Lee Witherspoon
Commits expected to sign (1): Kareem Walker
Targets: (1): Jerrion Ealy
Witherspoon and Walker will add much-need depth to Mississippi State?s roster behind rising junior Kylin Hill. The story of the day in Mississippi will be where the third-ranked running back in the country, Jerrion Ealy, signs.

Ealy, a Jackson Prep product, de-committed from Ole Miss in early January, and Mississippi State felt it could sway the talented dual-sport player to Starkville. Clemson, however, has emerged as the leading landing spot for Ealy.

Ealy is weighing more than just where he wants to play college football. Ealy is also a top MLB Draft prospect, and his decision very much has to do with which path allows him to keep his aspirations of being a major-leaguer alive.

Wide receiver
Early signees (2): Quinton Torbor, Kyziah Pruitt
Commits expected to sign (1): JaVonta Payton
Targets (2): Jonathan Mingo, Kendrell Scurry
Mingo is another in-state wildcard. He?s committed to Ole Miss, but the Brandon High School product could have Mississippi State on his radar.

Moorhead needs a difference-making wide receiver in this class. The wide out position was unstable in 2018. Torbor, Pruitt and Payton are nice three-star pieces who could add some stability, but Mingo is a 6-foot-2, 200-pound focal point of any offense he?s in.

Mingo took an official visit to Mississippi State two weeks ago while most of MSU?s signees and commits were also on campus. He has since taken official visits to Ole Miss and Georgia, though. He might be a long-shot to sign with State at this point, but Moorhead and company could definitely use him.

Tight end
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
Don?t be too scared by those zeroes if you?re a Mississippi State fan. The Bulldogs will have six tight ends on the 2019 roster, led by rising senior Farrod Green. Rising junior Dontea Jones should also play a role next season, as could redshirt freshman Geor?quarius Spivey.

Offensive line
Early signees (4): Charles Cross, Nick Pendley, LaQuinston Sharp, Brevyn Jones
Commits expected to sign (1): Brandon Cunningham
Targets (0)
In a class that will have five offensive linemen, Cross is the crown jewel. The Laurel High School standout made himself a five-star player with a stout week of practices at the Under Armour All-American game last month. Moorhead went heavy with the offensive line recruits, and he?s happy he did so. He?s adamant that his team will be able to hang with anyone at the line of scrimmage.

Safety
Early signees (3): Jarrian Jones, Javeious Purvis, Fred Peters
Commits expected to sign (1): Martin Emerson Jr.
Targets (0)
When Emerson Jr. signs on Wednesday, Mississippi State will have landed a pretty good crop of safeties. Jones is the cornerstone in the class. The four-star Northwest Rankin product can do it all and will be a valuable addition for defensive coordinator Bob Shoop.

Jones can play corner back, safety or even wide receiver. Odds are he?ll stay on the back end of Mississippi State?s defense after losing Mark McLaurin and Johnathan Abram.

Corner back
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (1): Collin Duncan
Mississippi State is in a good spot at corner with Maurice Smitherman, Cameron Dantzler and Tyler Williams all returning after getting a good amount of reps in 2018. Dantzler and Smitherman emerged as the starters, and Williams is a viable backup.

Adding another piece in Duncan, though, would be huge for State. Duncan is a three-star player from St. James High School in Montgomery, Alabama. Indications are he has solid intentions to sign with the Bulldogs.

Linebacker
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
Defensive end
Early signees (3): Jack Harris, Ani Izuchukwu, De?Monte Russell
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (1): Charles Moore
The early signees are all nice additions for a defensive end corps that lost a lot of production over the offseason. Louisville High School four-star recruit Charles Moore would cap off the class in a big way.

Moore committed to Mississippi State in August 2017 before de-committing a year and a half later, one month before National Signing Day. He appears to be heading to Auburn, but the Bulldogs are still very much in the running. They could use Moore?s talent on the d-line.

Defensive tackle
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (1): Nathan Pickering
Targets (1): Byron Young
Until Cross received his five-star designation last month, Pickering was the highest-rated recruit in Mississippi State?s 2019 class. The borderline five-star Seminary High School product appeared to open his recruitment a bit at the end of last year, but it is believed that he will undoubtedly become a Bulldog on Wednesday.

When did Charles Moore become a linebacker? Horka is out of touch, as I think someone stated yesterday.

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 01:36 PM
I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don?t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

Damn you Ari!

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 01:52 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

msu15
02-05-2019, 01:55 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

Woa

BeardoMSU
02-05-2019, 01:58 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

Pessimism intensifies**

https://i.redd.it/fckyu35wmc801.gif

hacker
02-05-2019, 02:03 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

lol

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 02:06 PM
When did Charles Moore become a linebacker? Horka is out of touch, as I think someone stated yesterday.

Look closer, he has it as a DE. But him being out of touch is true.

Turfdawg67
02-05-2019, 02:06 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

For comic relief??

BeardoMSU
02-05-2019, 02:09 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFejkhMMJxo

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 02:10 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

aight

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 02:12 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

Why following recruiting is so stressful on some people^^^^^

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 02:20 PM
Look closer, he has it as a DE. But him being out of touch is true.

Yep, you are correct. I lost it in all the jumbled italics.

CadaverDawg
02-05-2019, 02:36 PM
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.

No we won't. Remember this one.

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 02:47 PM
No we won't. Remember this one.

He wouldn't take that in a 3 game parlay, unless he wants to go broke.

ScoobaDawg
02-05-2019, 03:37 PM
It was posted after the Ole miss story.

Where Mississippi State stands ahead of National Signing Day
Tyler Horka, Mississippi Clarion Ledger Published 11:02 a.m. CT Feb. 5, 2019


STARKVILLE - Mississippi State signed 14 players during the early signing window in December. Two months later, the Bulldogs can reach double-digits once again on National Signing Day.

Head coach Joe Moorhead has five hard commits heading into Wednesday, and he has his eyes on a handful of other targets who could bolster this 2019 class. Here's a look at Mississippi State's early signees, commits and targets broken down by position.

Quarterback
Early signees (1): Garrett Shrader
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
The quarterback position was simple this offseason. Rising junior Keytaon Thompson has been with the program for three full seasons and is expected to be the starter in his third.

Garrett Shrader, though, enrolled early and could challenge Thompson for the starting job. Either way, Moorhead feels comfortable with who he has in the QB room heading into the 2019 season.

Running back
Early signees (1): Lee Witherspoon
Commits expected to sign (1): Kareem Walker
Targets: (1): Jerrion Ealy
Witherspoon and Walker will add much-need depth to Mississippi State?s roster behind rising junior Kylin Hill. The story of the day in Mississippi will be where the third-ranked running back in the country, Jerrion Ealy, signs.

Ealy, a Jackson Prep product, de-committed from Ole Miss in early January, and Mississippi State felt it could sway the talented dual-sport player to Starkville. Clemson, however, has emerged as the leading landing spot for Ealy.

Ealy is weighing more than just where he wants to play college football. Ealy is also a top MLB Draft prospect, and his decision very much has to do with which path allows him to keep his aspirations of being a major-leaguer alive.

Wide receiver
Early signees (2): Quinton Torbor, Kyziah Pruitt
Commits expected to sign (1): JaVonta Payton
Targets (2): Jonathan Mingo, Kendrell Scurry
Mingo is another in-state wildcard. He?s committed to Ole Miss, but the Brandon High School product could have Mississippi State on his radar.

Moorhead needs a difference-making wide receiver in this class. The wide out position was unstable in 2018. Torbor, Pruitt and Payton are nice three-star pieces who could add some stability, but Mingo is a 6-foot-2, 200-pound focal point of any offense he's in.

Mingo took an official visit to Mississippi State two weeks ago while most of MSU's signees and commits were also on campus. He has since taken official visits to Ole Miss and Georgia, though. He might be a long-shot to sign with State at this point, but Moorhead and company could definitely use him.

Tight end
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)
Don?t be too scared by those zeroes if you?re a Mississippi State fan. The Bulldogs will have six tight ends on the 2019 roster, led by rising senior Farrod Green. Rising junior Dontea Jones should also play a role next season, as could redshirt freshman Geor'quarius Spivey.

Offensive line
Early signees (4): Charles Cross, Nick Pendley, LaQuinston Sharp, Brevyn Jones
Commits expected to sign (1): Brandon Cunningham
Targets (0)
In a class that will have five offensive linemen, Cross is the crown jewel. The Laurel High School standout made himself a five-star player with a stout week of practices at the Under Armour All-American game last month. Moorhead went heavy with the offensive line recruits, and he's happy he did so. He's adamant that his team will be able to hang with anyone at the line of scrimmage.

Safety
Early signees (3): Jarrian Jones, Javeious Purvis, Fred Peters
Commits expected to sign (1): Martin Emerson Jr.
Targets (0)
When Emerson Jr. signs on Wednesday, Mississippi State will have landed a pretty good crop of safeties. Jones is the cornerstone in the class. The four-star Northwest Rankin product can do it all and will be a valuable addition for defensive coordinator Bob Shoop.

Jones can play corner back, safety or even wide receiver. Odds are he?ll stay on the back end of Mississippi State?s defense after losing Mark McLaurin and Johnathan Abram.

Corner back
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (1): Collin Duncan
Mississippi State is in a good spot at corner with Maurice Smitherman, Cameron Dantzler and Tyler Williams all returning after getting a good amount of reps in 2018. Dantzler and Smitherman emerged as the starters, and Williams is a viable backup.

Adding another piece in Duncan, though, would be huge for State. Duncan is a three-star player from St. James High School in Montgomery, Alabama. Indications are he has solid intentions to sign with the Bulldogs.

Linebacker
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (0)

Defensive end
Early signees (3): Jack Harris, Ani Izuchukwu, De?Monte Russell
Commits expected to sign (0)
Targets (1): Charles Moore
The early signees are all nice additions for a defensive end corps that lost a lot of production over the offseason. Louisville High School four-star recruit Charles Moore would cap off the class in a big way.

Moore committed to Mississippi State in August 2017 before de-committing a year and a half later, one month before National Signing Day. He appears to be heading to Auburn, but the Bulldogs are still very much in the running. They could use Moore's talent on the d-line.

Defensive tackle
Early signees (0)
Commits expected to sign (1): Nathan Pickering
Targets (1): Byron Young
Until Cross received his five-star designation last month, Pickering was the highest-rated recruit in Mississippi State?s 2019 class. The borderline five-star Seminary High School product appeared to open his recruitment a bit at the end of last year, but it is believed that he will undoubtedly become a Bulldog on Wednesday.

Thanks MSBulldog... i edited your post to make it easier to pick out the important info.

Ifyouonlyknew
02-05-2019, 03:57 PM
We'll roll with this & if I'm wrong hell yall don't know where I stay.

Pickering
Cunningham
Walker
Payton
Emerson
Duncan
Moore
Mingo
Lawrence

A couple grad transfers in the summer

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 04:00 PM
We'll roll with this & if I'm wrong hell yall don't know where I stay.

Pickering
Cunningham
Walker
Payton
Emerson
Duncan
Moore
Mingo
Lawrence

A couple grad transfers in the summer

Looks good!

WesternSkyDawg
02-05-2019, 04:01 PM
We'll roll with this & if I'm wrong hell yall don't know where I stay.

Pickering
Cunningham
Walker
Payton
Emerson
Duncan
Moore
Mingo
Lawrence

A couple grad transfers in the summer

BOOM!!!

Scared_Hitless
02-05-2019, 04:18 PM
Think most would be happy with Moore and Mingo back in the boat. I know I would

msstate7
02-05-2019, 04:23 PM
Think most would be happy with Moore and Mingo back in the boat. I know I would

Yeah, that would be very nice on signing day. I'd give Moorhead major props for pulling in those 2. I doubt it though

StateDawg44
02-05-2019, 04:40 PM
Yeah, that would be very nice on signing day. I'd give Moorhead major props for pulling in those 2. I doubt it though

Landing those two basically makes tomorrow go from meh to another level and a very solid close.

Those two are all I would need to consider tomorrow and this recruiting year a major success. Otherwise we kinda puttered out like we some how normally do.

We'll see tomorrow. I'm cautiously optimistic but haven't counted one chicken yet.

Hail State!

GreenheadDawg
02-05-2019, 04:50 PM
We'll roll with this & if I'm wrong hell yall don't know where I stay.

Pickering
Cunningham
Walker
Payton
Emerson
Duncan
Moore
Mingo
Lawrence

A couple grad transfers in the summer

Nobody could complain about that finish

msudawglb
02-05-2019, 04:51 PM
so, are Mingo, Moore, and Ealy having signing day announcments and if so, is there a time tied to them?

jacksondawg
02-05-2019, 04:54 PM
so, are Mingo, Moore, and Ealy having signing day announcments and if so, is there a time tied to them?

I saw on twitter that Ealy announces at 11am but have not seen anything on the other two

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 04:58 PM
I saw on twitter that Ealy announces at 11am but have not seen anything on the other two

Emerson @ 11:00 AM

Bothrops
02-05-2019, 04:58 PM
We'll roll with this & if I'm wrong hell yall don't know where I stay.

Pickering
Cunningham
Walker
Payton
Emerson
Duncan
Moore
Mingo
Lawrence

A couple grad transfers in the summer

Now this is change we can believe in

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 05:07 PM
Wiltfong with the Moore CB to Auburn, all recent CB's for Emerson remain cloudy

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 05:10 PM
Wiltfong with the Moore CB to Auburn, all recent CB's for Emerson remain cloudy

nobody is going to know what that guy is doing until the papers get there. He/they are all over the map

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 05:11 PM
Wiltfong with the Moore CB to Auburn, all recent CB's for Emerson remain cloudy

and if not Auburn...LSU. ????

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 05:12 PM
Wiltfong with the Moore CB to Auburn, all recent CB's for Emerson remain cloudy

We'll see but I've usually found that close to signing day CBs to be nothing more than guesses with no information.

By this time the player has committed to hat ceremony and doesn't want anyone to know.

msu15
02-05-2019, 05:15 PM
Wiltfong with the Moore CB to Auburn, all recent CB's for Emerson remain cloudy

LOL

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 05:15 PM
nobody is going to know what that guy is doing until the papers get there. He/they are all over the map

yea I get that but Wiltfong is about as accurate as they come..

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 05:15 PM
We'll see but I've usually found that close to signing day CBs to be nothing more than guesses with no information.

By this time the player has committed to hat ceremony and doesn't want anyone to know.

yep. It seems kind of pointless to have a ceremony if everyone is 100% in knowing where you are going.

Turfdawg67
02-05-2019, 05:17 PM
Moore going to AU.

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 05:18 PM
yep. It seems kind of pointless to have a ceremony if everyone is 100% in knowing where you are going.

He hasn't announced a ceremony....he's been dead quiet

Homedawg
02-05-2019, 05:20 PM
yea I get that but Wiltfong is about as accurate as they come..

Maybe so, but trust me Moore will change his mind 5 times between now and then..... circus

Dawg-gone-dawgs
02-05-2019, 05:26 PM
He hasn't announced a ceremony....he's been dead quiet

there is a "signing day celebration" at LHS at 9:30 I would assume since he goes to school there that he will be there.

HancockCountyDog
02-05-2019, 05:30 PM
Maybe so, but trust me Moore will change his mind 5 times between now and then..... circus

You are being extremely kind.

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 05:34 PM
We'll roll with this & if I'm wrong hell yall don't know where I stay.

Pickering
Cunningham
Walker
Payton
Emerson
Duncan
Moore
Mingo
Lawrence

A couple grad transfers in the summer

I pick 2 off this list Moore and Mingo and say maybe Young a few posts back and folks say I'm crazy SMH.

ShotgunDawg
02-05-2019, 05:37 PM
yea I get that but Wiltfong is about as accurate as they come..

I just don't get how Wiltfong could reasonably have better contacts in Louisville than any of our guys.

BuckyIsAB****
02-05-2019, 05:38 PM
So we basically have a shot at Moore and Mingo, but neither we feel great about? No shot at Ealy? And OM now has a legit shot at landing Ealy, Mingo and even Young?

Am I understanding that right?

If Ole Miss lands those 3 in their current situation, it only confirms that these kids and their families care more about getting paid a decent amount Now over a huge payday down the road. There's absolutely zero reason for Ealy & Young to go to OM...none except $. And you could really include Mingo now that RR is their OC. Recruiting is so dirty, and so confusing, and makes me hate college football a little more and more each year. The NCAA was in OM's ass two years ago uncovering lies and payouts, yet they will sign a 5 star RB over us, Clemson, and Bama? Nice job, NCAA.

Glad I didn't follow recruiting closely this year on the advice of IYOK. I'll check in late tomorrow to see who is in the final signing.

We have a good shot at Mingo and Ealy. Idk enough about the other 2 to speak on it

BuckyIsAB****
02-05-2019, 05:40 PM
Nobody knows what Mingo is going to do, but it's hard to back out of a commitment last minute in most cases. I think if he was going to back out, it would've happened already. I hope he surprises me because I think we're a much better situation for him than OM, and it's not really close. I actually believe he's a DB if he goes to OM.

Way off. If they wanted him to play DB they wouldve told him and he wouldve cut them off.

KOdawg1
02-05-2019, 05:42 PM
Moore going to AU.
Wouldn't be so sure about that.

BuckyIsAB****
02-05-2019, 05:59 PM
so, are Mingo, Moore, and Ealy having signing day announcments and if so, is there a time tied to them?

Mingo is signing at 7:30 AM. Ealy is at 11

msudawglb
02-05-2019, 06:20 PM
Mingo is signing at 7:30 AM. Ealy is at 11

Well, alright! We will know early how the day will go.

Commercecomet24
02-05-2019, 06:26 PM
I pick 2 off this list Moore and Mingo and say maybe Young a few posts back and folks say I'm crazy SMH.

You're not crazy at all.

ETA only a slight chance at young.

chef dixon
02-05-2019, 06:33 PM
Any chance for surprise prospects no one really knows about?

WeWonItAll(Most)
02-05-2019, 06:37 PM
Any chance for surprise prospects no one really knows about?

Yea who's that WR that the clarion ledger piece listed a few pages back? I've never heard of him

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 06:40 PM
You're not crazy at all.

ETA only a slight chance at young.

Thanks CC, I knew you'd take up for me, you're a good man!

msbulldog
02-05-2019, 06:45 PM
Yea who's that WR that the clarion ledger piece listed a few pages back? I've never heard of him

Kendrell Scurry 3 star, 6'2" 185 lb WR from Nashville offers from Miami, Tenn. and Ga Tech.

SmokeyDawg
02-05-2019, 06:47 PM
Kendrell Scurry 3 star, 6'2" 185 lb WR from Nashville offers from Miami, Tenn. and Ga Tech.

I believe he was thought of as underrated but he is headed to JC

chef dixon
02-05-2019, 06:49 PM
Kendrell Scurry 3 star, 6'2" 185 lb WR from Nashville offers from Miami, Tenn. and Ga Tech.

Looks like he is JUCO bound

Doggie_Style
02-05-2019, 06:50 PM
Kendrell Scurry 3 star, 6'2" 185 lb WR from Nashville offers from Miami, Tenn. and Ga Tech.

He?s headed to Juco....LOL