2019 Recruiting Thread

[KOdawg1]

So Moore is officially out of the boat it appears. Sucks to be the school to stand by through the injury to get dumped at the alter.

Nah I think Moore is playing everyone.

[bulldawg28]

So is it Bama or us for young? Why didn't he sign in December?

My thoughts are he was not able to sign in December.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Tell me more about Mingo being 50/50 - who is other competition for him besides MSU/Ole Miss?

None. I'd say right now he aint going to OM the Rich Rod hire and them signing that QB from TX made a statement Mingo didnt like

[TUSK]

Yes, Byron is looking hard at their roster and depth chart.

Buggs and Dwight are SRs and Williams RS SO is prolly gonna be the 1st DL to be drafted so I assume he's gone...

Davis and Ray are legit and Mathis got a few decent minutes... If BY is special he'll have a chance to compete for some on the interior...

I'm assuming that he's not mobile enough to play Jack...

[Ifyouonlyknew]

My thoughts are he was not able to sign in December.

He definitely could have & Bama wanted him too. It's a reason they didn't move on after he didn't. He's that good. He's the most college ready DL in the state. Pickering has a higher ceiling but Young is most ready to play Day 1.

[HoopsDawg]

Yes, Byron is looking hard at their roster and depth chart.

We seem to be a great fit for Byron. He would definitely be in our DT rotation this year.

[RezDog7]

We seem to be a great fit for Byron. He would definitely be in our DT rotation this year.

Somebody get that dude a Charger.

[TUSK]

He definitely could have & Bama wanted him too. It's a reason they didn't move on after he didn't. He's that good. He's the most college ready DL in the state. Pickering has a higher ceiling but Young is most ready to play Day 1.

Ishmael Sopsher is prolly gonna influence some of this, as well...

And one thing that Pickering said last month that I found interesting: "I don't want to go to a school where they sign three juco defensive tackles, you know what I mean? I want to see where everybody signs, and that will just give me more time to think about it and make sure I'm making the right direction."

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ishmael Sopsher is prolly gonna influence some of this, as well...

And one thing that Pickering said last month that I found interesting: "I don't want to go to a school where they sign three juco defensive tackles, you know what I mean? I want to see where everybody signs, and that will just give me more time to think about it and make sure I'm making the right direction."

Stick with Sopsher don't worry about Pickering. Thank you sir!

[TUSK]

Stick with Sopsher don't worry about Pickering. Thank you sir!

I'm tryin', man... Yaw Yaw is being stingy this year, dammit!

[Bothrops]

So Moore is officially out of the boat it appears. Sucks to be the school to stand by through the injury to get dumped at the alter.

He will commit to Auburn's coaches, lean back towards us publicly, and select the Yale hat on NSD.

[Commercecomet24]

Young is fully in play now. He's officially looking around now.r. Let's see what happens

[Coursesuper]

Young is fully in play now. Hearing bama just pulled his offer. Let's see what happens

Hope your dead on here. That young man can play.

[msstate7]

Young is fully in play now. Hearing bama just pulled his offer. Let's see what happens

So where all he visiting?

[Commercecomet24]

Hope your dead on here. That young man can play.

Yes he can. Known him since he was 8.

[Bdawg]

Young is fully in play now. He's officially looking around now.r. Let's see what happens

Is it an us or Bama deal? Or he looking at others too?

[Commercecomet24]

Is it an us or Bama deal? Or he looking at others too?

Bama. Looks like we are in a really good position right now, of course lotta people want him.

He does love shoop and JoMo

[Cooterpoot]

Young is coming in with Pickering too. Things are set up well for Plumlee,Mingo,& Young.

[Bdawg]

Bama. Looks like we are in a really good position right now, of course lotta people want him.

He does love shoop and JoMo

Thanks. So you feel it's between us or Bama? I know he's sought after and would be really great if we can't get Moore back on board.
Question for our other recruiting guys too. Would you rather have Moore or Young if you had to choose one and why?

[Bdawg]

Young is coming in with Pickering too. Things are set up well for Plumlee,Mingo,& Young.


Man that would be a steal if we pull that off late in the game.

[RezDog7]

Young is coming in with Pickering too. Things are set up well for Plumlee,Mingo,& Young.

If we close strong, will you forgive Moorhead for not winning the national championship with the most talent in the history of MSU football?

[Cooterpoot]

If we close strong, will you forgive Moorhead for not winning the national championship with the most talent in the history of MSU football?

I’m not a Moorhead hater. Wrong guy.

[Commercecomet24]

Thanks. So you feel it's between us or Bama? I know he's sought after and would be really great if we can't get Moore back on board.
Question for our other recruiting guys too. Would you rather have Moore or Young if you had to choose one and why?

bama looks to be out now. Young is the better player.

[Commercecomet24]

Young is coming in with Pickering too. Things are set up well for Plumlee,Mingo,& Young.

I'm beginning to think we have a real shot at getting those 3. Heck my kid told me this a month ago and I didn't believe him but he knows all these kids so who knows. Hope he turns out to be right..

[NotCoJoMo]

I love you, and I don't even know you.

[vv83]

bama looks to be out now. Young is the better player.

Did they tell him to shop around?

[Cooterpoot]

Watch out for one more too.... we ain’t done

[Commercecomet24]

Did they tell him to shop around?

Pretty much. And this is not a knock on Byron at all. The kids gonna be a stud. With Raekwon coming back and the dl class they have coming n just numbers.

[Commercecomet24]

Watch out for one more too.... we ain’t done

People can say what they want but this staff are Bulldogs on the recruiting trail. They don't quit on no recruit.

[KOdawg1]

I may be eating some crow real soon, and I couldn't be happier about it.

[KOdawg1]

Apparently, Plumlee's gf is enrolled at MSU, so that certainly doesn't hurt our chances. That said, he was willing to go to Georgia before all the blue/grey/pink shirt crap happened, so it might not be a factor. Can't hurt though.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

People can say what they want but this staff are Bulldogs on the recruiting trail. They don't quit on no recruit.

Naw they suck. I've read it over & over.

[BuckyIsAB****]

People can say what they want but this staff are Bulldogs on the recruiting trail. They don't quit on no recruit.

Its amazing how much the vibe of this thread changes on a daily basis.

I have been as hard on him as anyone, and most of it is deserved but the one thing no one who has any clue about him and his staff is their commitment and effort on the recruiting trail. They put the previous staff to shame on that front, if his effort on the field ever hits his effort off of it Moorhead will be a great one. Recruiting is the name of the game and he is good at it

[HoopsDawg]

Its amazing how much the vibe of this thread changes on a daily basis.

I have been as hard on him as anyone, and most of it is deserved but the one thing no one who has any clue about him and his staff is their commitment and effort on the recruiting trail. They put the previous staff to shame on that front, if his effort on the field ever hits his effort off of it Moorhead will be a great one. Recruiting is the name of the game and he is good at it

Moorhead will earn some more rope if he can close with Mingo, Young, and Plumlee

[Commercecomet24]

Its amazing how much the vibe of this thread changes on a daily basis.

I have been as hard on him as anyone, and most of it is deserved but the one thing no one who has any clue about him and his staff is their commitment and effort on the recruiting trail. They put the previous staff to shame on that front, if his effort on the field ever hits his effort off of it Moorhead will be a great one. Recruiting is the name of the game and he is good at it

Very well said and completely accurate!

It is amazing how this thread rides the roller coaster. It's why you have to let it play out.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Moorhead will earn some more rope if he can close with Mingo, Young, and Plumlee

If he pulls 2 of that group its a W. Mingo is the must get IMO.

BUT even if he gets none it wont be due to lack of effort, he is an extremely approachable and likable guy. That is a huge part of recruiting, something that Mullen didnt get

[Cooterpoot]

Finish with the 4 horsemen and people forget that bowl game.

[Commercecomet24]

If he pulls 2 of that group its a W. Mingo is the must get IMO.

BUT even if he gets none it wont be due to lack of effort, he is an extremely approachable and likable guy. That is a huge part of recruiting, something that Mullen didnt get

Agreed.. Seen the man in action, he's impressive.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Finish with the 4 horsemen and people forget that bowl game.

Idk about that. Maybe for some on the board but the average fan will remember that till next august

[Homedawg]

Finish with the 4 horsemen and people forget that bowl game.

That sounds like an ole miss fan. But with that said, have said for months they bust their ass. Let's just get the results of the effort

[bulldawg28]

It was apparent to me Bama was playing the kid when he was all Tide and didn't sign in December. They were playing the best option game. It has nothing to do with Davis returning for 1 year they knew they were in play for other options. I've watched them do it too many times now.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It was apparent to me Bama was playing the kid when he was all Tide and didn't sign in December. They were playing the best option game. It has nothing to do with Davis returning for 1 year they knew they were in play for other options. I've watched them do it too many times now.

I'm telling you it wasn't Bama choice it was the kids. You can believe it or not.

[msstate7]

I'm telling you it wasn't Bama choice it was the kids. You can believe it or not.

If commerce is correct, seems young overplayed his hand then

[MetEdDawg]

I'm telling you it wasn't Bama choice it was the kids. You can believe it or not.

Any elite kid has to believe in their ability at the next level. But they also have to balance that with smarts and an understanding of the situation. I have to think he's looked at the amount of competition and said that it's ridiculous. They are bringing in 8-9 DL this year. Even elite kids have to look at that and say hey if I want to make an immediate impact not only am I going up against a bunch of folks, but when someone like Raekwon comes back that trickles down through the depth chart.

We have a much more favorable depth chart for him AND as a good of DL development to the NFL as anyone in the conference.

[Commercecomet24]

I'm telling you it wasn't Bama choice it was the kids. You can believe it or not.

I know you have great sources and things in recruiting get squirrelly. Byron may be just saying this for some resson but he said it was their decision not his. As long as we get him I'm good with it either way lol!

[msstate7]

So let's assume Bama is off the table, who are the players for young? Us, OM, Florida (he visited), anyone else?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Very well said and completely accurate!

It is amazing how this thread rides the roller coaster. It's why you have to let it play out.

Makes you wonder. We hear the same ole thing every year. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard or seen "let it play out". Do people forget or are there newbies who need educating on recruiting every year?

[Scared_Hitless]

The main thing about JoMo that is already apparent is that he is likeable and approachable and so is the rest of the staff. Now that has not paid dividends too much yet, but that is because recruiting is a relationship business and he just hasn't been on the job as long as his competitors. You can point to Jimbo but he has a national title and walked into a school that was already a top 10 recruiter. I am interested to see how players 2 and 3 years out commit to JoMo when a guy like Schrader never wavered with him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I know you have great sources and things in recruiting get squirrelly. Byron may be just saying this for some resson but he said it was their decision not his. As long as we get him I'm good with it either way lol!

I'll defer to you on this situation because you're closer to it than I am but I heard they sent him papers in December just in case he changed his mind & decided to sign.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Regardless if it was Bama decision or Byron as long as the end result is Byron in Maroon & white I'm good. He's a potential huge piece to this recruiting puzzle.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So let's assume Bama is off the table, who are the players for young? Us, OM, Florida (he visited), anyone else?

He's visited Bama & Florida. I think his last 3 OV are LSU OM & MSU.

[Commercecomet24]

Regardless if it was Bama decision or Byron as long as the end result is Byron in Maroon & white I'm good. He's a potential huge piece to this recruiting puzzle.

I'm right there with ya! WE need him in maroon and white!

[Bdawg]

I'm right there with ya! WE need him in maroon and white!

Would you say we are his leader, or he's just looking around and we are in the mix?

[Commercecomet24]

Would you say we are his leader, or he's just looking around and we are in the mix?

We are imo. There are a lot of teams interested in him though. I think it comes down to us and lsu.

[Bdawg]

We are imo. There are a lot of teams interested in him though. I think it comes down to us and lsu.

Good deal. Great turn of events and just proves why you stay on these good guys and not give up on them. This is the kind of guy I see Mullen not having a chance with because he would have moved on. Being from MS might would save Mullen in this situation.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I know we want both but I am curious if it was either or who would you rather have, Moore or Young?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I know we want both but I am curious if it was either or who would you rather have, Moore or Young?

Young. Want both though

[Cooterpoot]

People can say what they want, Baker is as good as it gets in college football. Young and Pickering know it.

[RezDog7]

If we can land a top 15 class, I'll buy myself a charger.

[msstate7]

Young. Want both though

That would be an unbelievable dline class. Big win for this staff if they can pull it off

[Ari Gold]

People can say what they want, Baker is as good as it gets in college football. Young and Pickering know it.

Absolutely.... besides Shoop most important coach on the staff.

[KOdawg1]

Absolutely.... besides Shoop most important coach on the staff.
IF Shoop were to ever leave, I wouldn't be opposed to making Baker our DC. The guy can flat out coach and is a good motivator.

[Commercecomet24]

I know we want both but I am curious if it was either or who would you rather have, Moore or Young?

Young but I'm biased. I'm greedy and want both!

[Commercecomet24]

Good deal. Great turn of events and just proves why you stay on these good guys and not give up on them. This is the kind of guy I see Mullen not having a chance with because he would have moved on. Being from MS might would save Mullen in this situation.

If this staff misses on a recruit it ain't because of lack of effort. They stay on these guys like a pit bull and not in a creepy way like some others. Our recruiting efforts are a complete 180 from what we've seen in the past

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

If we can land a top 15 class, I'll buy myself a charger.

Iphone or Samsung I got extra of both. You can have one if you want

[Commercecomet24]

Iphone or Samsung I got extra of both. You can have one if you want

Now that's funny!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dawg-gone-dawgs again.

[BrunswickDawg]

Iphone or Samsung I got extra of both. You can have one if you want

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dawg-gone-dawgs again.

[CadaverDawg]

Iphone or Samsung I got extra of both. You can have one if you want

You're on a roll lately

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

You're on a roll lately

haha thanks..I think

[confucius say]

I'll defer to you on this situation because you're closer to it than I am but I heard they sent him papers in December just in case he changed his mind & decided to sign.

Reading y'all's post, I think you are both right. It was Young's choice in dec but now it is Bama's.

[RezDog7]

Iphone or Samsung I got extra of both. You can have one if you want

Touch?, and I'll take the iPhone charger.

[Rayburn8]

Nathan Pickering is unofficially visiting this weekend per Twitter. His second unofficially visit since the season ended. Still has his OV in a couple weeks.

Just for those who thought there was any doubt.

https://twitter.com/therealnathan22/status/1083931381502263296

Pickering was supposed to OV to Bama this weekend.

[TUSK]

Reading y'all's post, I think you are both right. It was Young's choice in dec but now it is Bama's.

Ishmael Sopsher, DT
Henry To'oto'o, OLB
Nathan Pickering, DT
Khris Bogle, WDE
Byron Young, SDE

[msstate7]

Nathan Pickering is unofficially visiting this weekend per Twitter. His second unofficially visit since the season ended. Still has his OV in a couple weeks.

Just for those who thought there was any doubt.

https://twitter.com/therealnathan22/status/1083931381502263296

Pickering was supposed to OV to Bama this weekend.

So no Bama visit at all?

[TUSK]

So no Bama visit at all?

He's visited several times (twice in November).... Dunno if he's comin' back...

[Cooterpoot]

No concern with Pickering. He’s recruiting for us.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Any news on who we are on as a transfer QB? Or is this the wrong place to ask

[Rayburn8]

So no Bama visit at all?

Not that it sounds like, no OV at least

[Commercecomet24]

No concern with Pickering. He?s recruiting for us.

Yep, He's recruiting hard for us! Him and Jarrian have done work!

[Hambone]

Mingo, Young and Plumlee come on down!

[msstate7]

Mingo, Young and Plumlee come on down!

I'd be really impressed with this

[bulldawg28]

Ishmael Sopsher, DT
Henry To'oto'o, OLB
Nathan Pickering, DT
Khris Bogle, WDE
Byron Young, SDE

Is this your wish list?

[TUSK]

Is this your wish list?

Kinda... It's a ranking of the top 100 rated, unsigned players that Bammer is recruiting/has a shot at...

If we could wrassle Sopsher away from Yaw Yaw, that'd be huge...

[TUSK]

Here's an AL.com article on Mississippi Recruiting....

https://www.al.com/sports/2019/01/mississippi-remains-recruiting-battleground-for-alabama-auburn-and-everyone-else.html

[KOdawg1]

Glad our recruits got to see that shitastic performance from our basketball team. vs. Ole Miss, no less

Pretty sure it has little to do with anything, but still

[BuckyIsAB****]

Mingo, Young and Plumlee come on down!

I wonder if Plumlee will look at OM harder now that they hired Rich Rod, them signing Tisdale may run him off but I've seen Tisdale and he aint near what Plumlee is

[KOdawg1]

I wonder if Plumlee will look at OM harder now that they hired Rich Rod, them signing Tisdale may run him off but I've seen Tisdale and he aint near what Plumlee is

Would he go somewhere that's already signed 2 QBs?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Would he go somewhere that's already signed 2 QBs?

The two that they have signed neither are very good. Idk Im not him but he knows he is better than both of them. The kid from JA is a legacy kid a lot like when they signed Buchanon from Prep.

Luke got an order from up top to sign him. I think Plumlee comes to Stark

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I think JoeMo finishes out pretty strong.... we won’t be ranked very high because we won’t sign 25 players.... I also think we get 2-3 transfers as well.

[Todd4State]

I wonder if Plumlee will look at OM harder now that they hired Rich Rod, them signing Tisdale may run him off but I've seen Tisdale and he aint near what Plumlee is

We're recruiting him as a QB too. I would think that would help.

Plus girlfriends are undefeated.

[Commercecomet24]

We're recruiting him as a QB too. I would think that would help.

Plus girlfriends are undefeated.

This and his gf is helping us out.

[bulldawg28]

We're recruiting him as a QB too. I would think that would help.

Plus girlfriends are undefeated.

Just ask Fitz about girlfriends It killed his senior year.

[ShotgunDawg]

Just ask Fitz about girlfriends It killed his senior year.

What did Fitz's girlfriend do?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Plus girlfriends are undefeated.

And they can also be a huge distraction...and hinder performance(on the field)

[Cooterpoot]

You guys think just about every player on that field aren’t dating? Get out of here. They’re just about all chasing poon like the rest of the straight college guys.

[Hambone]

She put it on him, that’s what she did

[ShotgunDawg]

I think it's funny that we all of the sudden think the girlfriend is a distraction when she's hot, but that the players that have ugly or average looking girlfriends never have an issue.

It's the most assanine narrative out there

[Hambone]

Shotgun, it wasn’t that she was hot..

She had pagents all over the place and took Fitz with him. He couldn’t uphold his end of the bet between him and the baseball team because she told him he couldn’t cut his hair and be seen in public with her. She was a distraction. Granted that was his decision and good for him he gets to date a former Ms South Carolina.

[msbulldog]

I think it's funny that we all of the sudden think the girlfriend is a distraction when she's hot, but that the players that have ugly or average looking girlfriends never have an issue.

It's the most assanine narrative out there

My old Coach used to tell us that girls weaken us. I must say that some females make me weak in the knees.

[ShotgunDawg]

My old Coach used to tell us that girls weaken us. I must say that some females make me weak in the knees.

Well.... it's undefeated for a reason

[msbulldog]

Well.... it's undefeated for a reason

Damn right! +1

[GreenheadDawg]

Well.... it's undefeated for a reason

This point can not be argued. Gonna win every time

[Commercecomet24]

Well.... it's undefeated for a reason

Post of the year right here!

[reno hightower]

My old Coach used to tell us that girls weaken us. I must say that some females make me weak in the knees.



https://youtu.be/4NLUpuo3HGo

Get outta here with your.little.chicken asses!!!

[bulldawg28]

Shotgun, it wasn’t that she was hot..

She had pagents all over the place and took Fitz with him. He couldn’t uphold his end of the bet between him and the baseball team because she told him he couldn’t cut his hair and be seen in public with her. She was a distraction. Granted that was his decision and good for him he gets to date a former Ms South Carolina.

This. Most college athletes aren't posting messages about their GF. You'll be hard pressed to find one that acknowledges them. The dude wasn't the same. Instead of watching film he's playing long distance relationship.

[bobcat91]

Lockhart got an official offer from us

[CadaverDawg]

Lockhart got an official offer from us

Does that tell us anything about the confidence level of other recruits on the DL, or is this something we expected regardless?

[KOdawg1]

Lockhart got an official offer from us

That probably means we don't think we'll get either Young or Moore. Or both

[CadaverDawg]

That probably means we don't think we'll get either Young or Moore. Or both

That's what I was afraid of

[Cooterpoot]

That probably means we don't think we'll get either Young or Moore. Or both

Not true. We had to offer to get a visit and he’s coming in with Moore. Unless Moore cancels I wouldn’t worry too much.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Lockhart got an official offer from us

Kid has double figure P5 offers we weren't getting an OV without an offer.

[Pit Bull]

Nathan Pickering is unofficially visiting this weekend per Twitter. His second unofficially visit since the season ended. Still has his OV in a couple weeks.

Just for those who thought there was any doubt.

https://twitter.com/therealnathan22/status/1083931381502263296

Pickering was supposed to OV to Bama this weekend.

Just curious......does Pick want the number #22...?.that's funny. Guess we're moving him to RB or WR.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Just curious......does Pick want the number #22...?.that's funny. Guess we're moving him to RB or WR.

If he wants it I doubt it's an issue with him getting it. Rivers wore 5 & Sweat 9 so it's nothing out of the ordinary.

[maroonmania]

Kid has double figure P5 offers we weren't getting an OV without an offer.

Yep, per listening to Rosebowl sounds like Lockhart has blown up recently. If we want to sign him it won't be as anyone's backup plan.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yep, per listening to Rosebowl sounds like Lockhart has blown up recently. If we want to sign him it won't be as anyone's backup plan.

Exactly. We may get him & may not get Moore but it won't be because we had to settle for Lockhart. Nebraska TCU Iowa UNC Ga Tech & others are all fighting for 1 of these last OV. We had to offer if we want this kid & I see us pushing for him once he gets on his OV. We have proximity & a good friend of his already signed on our side.

[MetEdDawg]

It should help that we his teammate committed right now.

[KOdawg1]

Looks like Plumlee's OV went well.

It also sounds like our baseball staff is recruiting him pretty hard which is a plus for us considering we're the best baseball school recruiting him to play both sports.

[Commercecomet24]

Looks like Plumlee's OV went well.

It also sounds like our baseball staff is recruiting him pretty hard which is a plus for us considering we're the best baseball school recruiting him to play both sports.

Plumlee loves Lemonis and Jake. We are in very good shape with him and his family.

[KOdawg1]

Plumlee loves Lemonis and Jake. We are in very good shape with him and his family.

What position does Plumlee play in baseball? I know he's talented if we're after him, but is he mostly a contact/speed kind of guy?

[Todd4State]

What position does Plumlee play in baseball? I know he's talented if we're after him, but is he mostly a contact/speed kind of guy?

My guess would be an outfielder- probably CF based on his speed and arm strength.

[Cooterpoot]

What position does Plumlee play in baseball? I know he's talented if we're after him, but is he mostly a contact/speed kind of guy?

OF and he's not a contact speed guy. He's got a little pop. I do think he's got a lot to work on hitting-wise to be a good SEC hitter but defensively he can go get anything.

[Cooterpoot]

Charles Moore has backed out of his visit on the 25th. He's coming on a midweek visit, so I look for him to be told to get in the boat or kick rocks.

[KOdawg1]

Charles Moore has backed out of his visit on the 25th. He's coming on a midweek visit, so I look for him to be told to get in the boat or kick rocks.

Honestly, let's just let him go if he doesn't want to be here. Focus all our attention on Young and Lockhart.

The kid sounds like he has some serious issues and someone is feeding him some BS about degrees from MSU

[ShotgunDawg]

Charles Moore has backed out of his visit on the 25th. He's coming on a midweek visit, so I look for him to be told to get in the boat or kick rocks.

The kid apparently has laughable people around him advising him.

Just an absurd situation for MSU.

It just makes no sense

[Scared_Hitless]

Charles Moore has backed out of his visit on the 25th. He's coming on a midweek visit, so I look for him to be told to get in the boat or kick rocks.

I am fine with the kick rocks approach. I cannot imagine being a grown man having to kiss the a** of an 18 year old kid. I know it is part of the job but good grief it must be frustrating. Then to deal with all the family members looking to make an impact on recruiting just yikes.

[ShotgunDawg]

Thing is, the Moore situation happens to every school in every state. Problem for MSU is that we can't replace that type of talent leaving with an equal or better player from out of state.

If this happened to LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, etc it's not near as big of a deal because they just come grab a kid from Mississippi or another state. When a kid in Alabama has this issue, the kid simply leaves to go to FSU, UGA, TN, Florida, but does not choose MSU.

[CadaverDawg]

I am fine with the kick rocks approach. I cannot imagine being a grown man having to kiss the a** of an 18 year old kid. I know it is part of the job but good grief it must be frustrating. Then to deal with all the family members looking to make an impact on recruiting just yikes.

I agree. That's why I couldn't coach. I couldn't kiss the ass of a high school kid. It has to get frustrating, and there's probably times when you're like "what the hell am I doing".....until you check your bank account (if you're one of the big boys)

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Thing is, the Moore situation happens to every school in every state. Problem for MSU is that we can't replace that type of talent leaving with an equal or better player from out of state.

If this happened to LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, etc it's not near as big of a deal because they just come grab a kid from Mississippi or another state. When a kid in Alabama has this issue, the kid simply leaves to go to FSU, UGA, TN, Florida, but does not choose MSU.

I agree with everything you said except we can't replace with equal or better talent. Byron Young would fit that mold. Let's see what shakes out.

[Bdawg]

I'm sure he will always have a spot till the end if he wants it but I think it's time to put some pressure on him to see where he stands. Just a shame a guy committed for so long and helping you recruit is looking elsewhere in the end. And why would "people" be getting in his ear to go elsewhere? Nothing wrong with our track record of Baker and MSU putting Dlinemen in the NFL.
Hopefully Young can be his replacement if he doesn't come.

[MetEdDawg]

I'm sure he will always have a spot till the end if he wants it but I think it's time to put some pressure on him to see where he stands. Just a shame a guy committed for so long and helping you recruit is looking elsewhere in the end. And why would "people" be getting in his ear to go elsewhere? Nothing wrong with our track record of Baker and MSU putting Dlinemen in the NFL.
Hopefully Young can be his replacement if he doesn't come.

For the same reason it happens everywhere else. People advising him stand to gain and prosper/benefit from it. Recruiting is nasty business now and the NCAA doesn't really have any authority to stop it. There's too many schools with too many entrenched processes to circumvent them that it's favoring the blue bloods and the big money makers even more.

[Bdawg]

For the same reason it happens everywhere else. People advising him stand to gain and prosper/benefit from it. Recruiting is nasty business now and the NCAA doesn't really have any authority to stop it. There's too many schools with too many entrenched processes to circumvent them that it's favoring the blue bloods and the big money makers even more.
You think these schools just send money to the "people" around them to affect the kids decision? Guess I'm saying other people besides parents.

[MetEdDawg]

You think these schools just send money to the "people" around them to affect the kids decision? Guess I'm saying other people besides parents.

Of course they do. Schools aren't dumb. There's so many people that can influence decisions and football teams know who the influencers are. They do their research. Girlfriends get scholarships, family members get jobs/money or preferential job status where they currently work. It happens all the time. And those people who stand to benefit are the ones that influence these kids.

The big thing is that the more money you have the more you can throw your weight around. That's why I wish we could increase our revenue considerably more. Being last in the SEC in revenue automatically puts us at a disadvantage before we walk into a kid's house. But when it gets crunch time in recruiting is when it really starts to hurt.

[Really Clark?]

Of course they do. Schools aren't dumb. There's so many people that can influence decisions and football teams know who the influencers are. They do their research. Girlfriends get scholarships, family members get jobs/money or preferential job status where they currently work. It happens all the time. And those people who stand to benefit are the ones that influence these kids.

The big thing is that the more money you have the more you can throw your weight around. That's why I wish we could increase our revenue considerably more. Being last in the SEC in revenue automatically puts us at a disadvantage before we walk into a kid's house. But when it gets crunch time in recruiting is when it really starts to hurt.

You think schools are sending university budget funds, that have to be accounted for by multiple people and is open to the public to view, they are giving that money illegally to individuals for impermissible benefits?

[MetEdDawg]

You think schools are sending university budget funds, that have to be accounted for by multiple people and is open to the public to view, they are giving that money illegally to individuals for impermissible benefits?

Do you know how many people are on university payrolls? If I have you on payroll for a university I'm the President of and I pay you for consulting work or anything like that to bring in business for my student union, to figure out ways to make our campus more green or more energy efficient, what in the world can a governing body do if I tell you to use 5K of your salary to give to a kid that is coming on a visit on a Saturday?

They can't do a thing. And it's not that terribly difficult to cover that kind of stuff up in your own personal transactions. If you think that kind of stuff isn't happening, especially in the bigger universities that have bigger ties to the community, then you are just naive.

[Bdawg]

You think schools are sending university budget funds, that have to be accounted for by multiple people and is open to the public to view, they are giving that money illegally to individuals for impermissible benefits?

I'm kinda with you. I figured you wanted rich boosters who sling money to the family. But I just couldn't imagine them giving it to just people around them. Guess they figure out who influences them the most.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I'm kinda with you. I figured you wanted rich boosters who sling money to the family. But I just couldn't imagine them giving it to just people around them. Guess they figure out who influences them the most.

ole miss calls them "Champions"

In the lower right corner of its basic recruit information form, Ole Miss has a section for information about that recruit's "Champion." That's the person the player trusts the most, the person who will have the most input on the college choice. Sometimes the Champion is a coach. Sometimes it's a girlfriend or a buddy. Usually, the Champion is mama

[Johnson85]

Do you know how many people are on university payrolls? If I have you on payroll for a university I'm the President of and I pay you for consulting work or anything like that to bring in business for my student union, to figure out ways to make our campus more green or more energy efficient, what in the world can a governing body do if I tell you to use 5K of your salary to give to a kid that is coming on a visit on a Saturday?

They can't do a thing. And it's not that terribly difficult to cover that kind of stuff up in your own personal transactions. If you think that kind of stuff isn't happening, especially in the bigger universities that have bigger ties to the community, then you are just naive.

I don't think that's the way it works generally (or maybe at all?). The foundation may do some of that, but I think most impermissible benefits go straight from Boosters to the recipient, without ever flowing through the university. So I don't think any TV money or ticket revenue or any official revenue of the school or athletic department goes to impermissible benefits, with the exception of Athletic Department jobs for influencers. I'm not even sure university contractors would get encouraged to hire an influencer, as then you're violating state procurement law. I don't think most of these coaches or employees want to put themselves out there like that; there are either boosters to provide the impermissible benefits or there aren't.

[Really Clark?]

Do you know how many people are on university payrolls? If I have you on payroll for a university I'm the President of and I pay you for consulting work or anything like that to bring in business for my student union, to figure out ways to make our campus more green or more energy efficient, what in the world can a governing body do if I tell you to use 5K of your salary to give to a kid that is coming on a visit on a Saturday?

They can't do a thing. And it's not that terribly difficult to cover that kind of stuff up in your own personal transactions. If you think that kind of stuff isn't happening, especially in the bigger universities that have bigger ties to the community, then you are just naive.

That’s never happening. Way way too many people to try and cover up funneling school money illegally. That’s a huge scandal waiting to happen. The closest thing ever done to that was during SMU scandal and they still didn’t funnel public funds from the athletic department. No school is taking their athletic revenue and giving it to individuals off the books for impermissible benefits. That’s just not happening

[MetEdDawg]

That’s never happening. Way way too many people to try and cover up funneling school money illegally. That’s a huge scandal waiting to happen. The closest thing ever done to that was during SMU scandal and they still didn’t funnel public funds from the athletic department. No school is taking their athletic revenue and giving it to individuals off the books for impermissible benefits. That’s just not happening

Easiest place to hide some of that kind of stuff is in plain sight. Happens in the education world all the time. You would be surprised how long it took to take those guys down because of the processes they had in place AND who all would stick their neck out to make that kind of stuff happen. Then think about the fact you are talking on the university level about millions and millions of dollars. That's a lot of stuff to sift through.

[Really Clark?]

Easiest place to hide some of that kind of stuff is in plain sight. Happens in the education world all the time. You would be surprised how long it took to take those guys down because of the processes they had in place AND who all would stick their neck out to make that kind of stuff happen. Then think about the fact you are talking on the university level about millions and millions of dollars. That's a lot of stuff to sift through.

You have insinuated that all big programs are doing this. The shear number of individuals it would take to attempt this at one university, much less multiple universities most who are public schools doing the same thing, and no one has ever blown whistle? Not to mention you believe all of these presidents are signing off, when numerous presidents don’t even care about football. It’s not happening and would be one of the dumbest and illegal moves a school could contemplate. The number of people involved in the conspiracy and cover up, not to mention the third party oversite and college board who are not beholding to one particular school, they all turn a blind eye as well?

[MetEdDawg]

You have insinuated that all big programs are doing this. The shear number of individuals it would take to attempt this at one university, much less multiple universities most who are public schools doing the same thing, and no one has ever blown whistle? Not to mention you believe all of these presidents are signing off, when numerous presidents don’t even care about football. It’s not happening and would be one of the dumbest and illegal moves a school could contemplate. The number of people involved in the conspiracy and cover up, not to mention the third party oversite and college board who are not beholding to one particular school, they all turn a blind eye as well?

You thinking it takes that many people is what is incorrect. All it takes is 2 people. All I did was give an example using a President. Most likely it would be on a much smaller level. But if you think it doesn't sometimes happen this way then that's ok.

Of course the majority of stuff happens through boosters and stuff off the record. But don't you think that if everyone was doing it the exact same way that something would have been done about it? There's multiple ways to do this kind of stuff. I'm stunned people don't realize that. This is why the NCAA can't do anything. There are so many ways to accomplish this task that the NCAA just doesn't have the man power to connect the dots unless it's insane or a university got sloppy.

But I can promise you that it's not only not nearly as hard as you think it is, but that it doesn't require nearly as many people as you think it does.

[Really Clark?]

You thinking it takes that many people is what is incorrect. All it takes is 2 people. All I did was give an example using a President. Most likely it would be on a much smaller level. But if you think it doesn't sometimes happen this way then that's ok.

Of course the majority of stuff happens through boosters and stuff off the record. But don't you think that if everyone was doing it the exact same way that something would have been done about it? There's multiple ways to do this kind of stuff. I'm stunned people don't realize that. This is why the NCAA can't do anything. There are so many ways to accomplish this task that the NCAA just doesn't have the man power to connect the dots unless it's insane or a university got sloppy.

But I can promise you that it's not only not nearly as hard as you think it is, but that it doesn't require nearly as many people as you think it does.

There are multiple ways, outside of the university funds. That’s the issue. Schools are not using monies that are on the books. That would take way too many people, a lot more than 2, to cover up, including people at the university who could care less or downright hate athletics. And it’s being done all across the country at big programs without it ever being discovered or someone blowing the whistle in the last 50 years. No school has been busted using funds in that nature.

I think you are being naive and weaved something in your mind that would be a lot more difficult to pull off for decades over numerous universities. No whistle blower at the schools, no state auditors catching on to Cooked books, no reporter investigating misuse of public funds, etc. Way too many people involved to attempted and way too many third parties who would overlook the misuse

[Scared_Hitless]

So we are roughly 2 weeks away how are we feeling about the closing of this class? Mingo, Plumlee, Young, James all still in play? Can we expect any surprises?

[Bdawg]

So we are roughly 2 weeks away how are we feeling about the closing of this class? Mingo, Plumlee, Young, James all still in play? Can we expect any surprises?

Yeah thanks. I didn't mean to create a long impermissible benefit discussion in this thread. We need to close strong with some of these guys. If Mingo doesn't flip, how do y'all feel about our receivers who have signed? We need some big contributors in a bad way,I believe, in order to make this offense work

[jwells]

So we are roughly 2 weeks away how are we feeling about the closing of this class? Mingo, Plumlee, Young, James all still in play? Can we expect any surprises?

I would list in order of likeliness 1. James (75%) 2. Young (60%) 3. Plumlee (45%) 4. Mingo (30%)

[CadaverDawg]

What are the chances we get Juwan Johnson or Javonte Payton?

[CadaverDawg]

I would list in order of likeliness 1. James (75%) 2. Young (60%) 3. Plumlee (45%) 4. Mingo (30%)

That high on Young? Hope you're right

[jwells]

That high on Young? Hope you're right

At 60%, I think it is a little more likely than not but in no way a guarantee. I like the way we've been trending with him and our efforts are heavily on him now that Moore is taking us for a bit of a ride.

[jwells]

What are the chances we get Juwan Johnson or Javonte Payton?

To get either one, it is around 90% bc if the Johnson thing doesn't work out, Payton won't leave us for a G5 offer. If Johnson is a Dog (which is being worked through and a definitive possibility) I think there is a chance Payton will look elsewhere.

[Commercecomet24]

I would list in order of likeliness 1. James (75%) 2. Young (60%) 3. Plumlee (45%) 4. Mingo (30%)

I'm glad to see you're high on us getting James, we really need him. Byron we are in good shape with but that figures probably about right. I'm a little higher on Plumlee and Mingo. I believe Plumlee at about 70% and Mingo 50/50(like these percentages really even mean anything lol!)

[Commercecomet24]

To get either one, it is around 90% bc if the Johnson thing doesn't work out, Payton won't leave us for a G5 offer. If Johnson is a Dog (which is being worked through and a definitive possibility) I think there is a chance Payton will look elsewhere.

Johnson would be a great get for us.

[jwells]

Johnson would be a great get for us.

I agree. I know he had some troubles this season between injuries and drops, but I believe getting back around Moorhead could help get him back to his 2017 form.

[Jack Lambert]

I would list in order of likeliness 1. James (75%) 2. Young (60%) 3. Plumlee (45%) 4. Mingo (30%)

Mingo's dad was at the GYM last week. I wanted to talk to him just to ask about the All American game but stayed away.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I would list in order of likeliness 1. James (75%) 2. Young (60%) 3. Plumlee (45%) 4. Mingo (30%)

I'd go 80% on DJ James (late Auburn offer would screw us)
Byron Young 65%
John Rys Plumlee 50%
Jonathan Mingo 50% (wanna go higher here but will stick with this for now)

[msstate7]

Man, I really want young and Pickering. If we somehow can get young and Moore in the boat, that's the making of another dominant defensive line

[BeardoMSU]

I'd go 80% on DJ James (late Auburn offer would screw us)
Byron Young 65%
John Rys Plumlee 50%
Jonathan Mingo 50% (wanna go higher here but will stick with this for now)

Nice.

[jwells]

I'd go 80% on DJ James (late Auburn offer would screw us)
Byron Young 65%
John Rys Plumlee 50%
Jonathan Mingo 50% (wanna go higher here but will stick with this for now)

Feel the exact same on James. And we're very similar with Young and Plumlee, just feel from what I know that in the end Mingo won't be in maroon (love to be wrong) Big visit this weekend tho that could shift things in our favor. I also tend to be more conservative in my numbers bc of the changing nature of recruiting.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Feel the exact same on James. And we're very similar with Young and Plumlee, just feel from what I know that in the end Mingo won't be in maroon (love to be wrong) Big visit this weekend tho that could shift things in our favor. I also tend to be more conservative in my numbers bc of the changing nature of recruiting.

I think things have been trending up for Mingo in the last couple weeks. I do think we still need to hit a HR on the OV.

[jwells]

I think things have been trending up for Mingo in the last couple weeks. I do think we still need to hit a HR on the OV.

I agree. And from what I've seen and heard from others who have OV'd, we will exceed his expectations. Chance to finish strong at the WR position if we could flip Mingo and get Juwan Johnson

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I'd go 80% on DJ James (late Auburn offer would screw us)
Byron Young 65%
John Rys Plumlee 50%
Jonathan Mingo 50% (wanna go higher here but will stick with this for now)

Where does Plumlee go if not here?

[Commercecomet24]

I agree. And from what I've seen and heard from others who have OV'd, we will exceed his expectations. Chance to finish strong at the WR position if we could flip Mingo and get Juwan Johnson

Right on! This staff knows the recruiting well and are pulling out all the stops. Different way of doing business than we're used to.

[BuckyIsAB****]

UGA is trying to backdoor into Mingo since they had some WRs declare or they know they are going to.

I dont think he will go there because they have shown him they dont really want him he is their backup plan. State coaches came to see him today.

I'd say right now it is between us and UGA for Mingo. I do expect him to visit us OM and UGA thought. I know hes committed to OM but he aint playing for Rich Rod

[Cooterpoot]

GA can only offer a shirt. They can't offer a scholarship this year or playing time.

[Commercecomet24]

UGA is trying to backdoor into Mingo since they had some WRs declare or they know they are going to.

I dont think he will go there because they have shown him they dont really want him he is their backup plan. State coaches came to see him today.

I'd say right now it is between us and UGA for Mingo. I do expect him to visit us OM and UGA thought. I know hes committed to OM but he aint playing for Rich Rod

You have the best info on Mingo for sure, from what I've heard he's not real keen on being somebody's backup plan.

[BuckyIsAB****]

GA can only offer a shirt. They can't offer a scholarship this year or playing time.

Correct but I think they might get a scholly because they will have some guys leave early. Im not sure about how all that works but I promise you they will feed him whatever to get him there

[BuckyIsAB****]

You have the best info on Mingo for sure, from what I've heard he's not real keen on being somebody's backup plan.

No. He's a super competitive kid he wont take that lightly. He will take a visit though and I dont blame him, you only get to do it once go have fun

[Cooterpoot]

I've got some inside at UGA. They're having numbers issues already. They'd have to lose several for something to open up. They're trying to load up on grey/blue shirt guys right now. And that's part of this new split signing date too. Going to see it more and more from the big boys.

[Commercecomet24]

No. He's a super competitive kid he wont take that lightly. He will take a visit though and I dont blame him, you only get to do it once go have fun

Good stuff, thanks! I'd heard he was a baller and wanted a chance to compete for a starting spot no matter where he winds up.I don't ever blame any of these kids for taking these visits. Shoot I would've done it too.

[msu15]

If there was a parlay out there, it'd put some money on it that we sign Plumlee, Young, and James.

[msstate7]

If there was a parlay out there, it'd put some money on it that we sign Plumlee, Young, and James.

I think that's even more of a long shot than the usual 6-1 3-teamer.

[Johnson85]

I'd go 80% on DJ James (late Auburn offer would screw us)
Byron Young 65%
John Rys Plumlee 50%
Jonathan Mingo 50% (wanna go higher here but will stick with this for now)

No odds on Moore? That mean something approaching 0%?

[Turfdawg67]

I'm glad to see you're high on us getting James, we really need him. Byron we are in good shape with but that figures probably about right. I'm a little higher on Plumlee and Mingo. I believe Plumlee at about 70% and Mingo 50/50(like these percentages really even mean anything lol!)

Since I often bitch about posters, let me say that you are one of my favorites. Usually positive with a good take. Thanks man.

[KOdawg1]

Since I often bitch about posters, let me say that you are one of my favorites. Usually positive with a good take. Thanks man.
Yep. Commerce is awesome.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No odds on Moore? That mean something approaching 0%?

It means the post I responded to didn't have Moore listed. Let me see how this in Home goes this week then I'll give a % on him. I want to see if he has that same energy in front of the coaches.

[ShotgunDawg]

I've got some inside at UGA. They're having numbers issues already. They'd have to lose several for something to open up. They're trying to load up on grey/blue shirt guys right now. And that's part of this new split signing date too. Going to see it more and more from the big boys.

That rule needs to be fixed. Just isn't good for college football.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That rule needs to be fixed. Just isn't good for college football.

The kids have the option to leave the blue/gray shirt offers on the table.

[jwells]

I'm glad to see you're high on us getting James, we really need him. Byron we are in good shape with but that figures probably about right. I'm a little higher on Plumlee and Mingo. I believe Plumlee at about 70% and Mingo 50/50(like these percentages really even mean anything lol!)

Yea I like where it is with James. Barring an Auburn offer, we should be good but they are sort of still keeping him warm. We're getting close enough to signing day that I'm not sure they will ever pull the trigger. With the other 2, yea I know others are higher but like I said, I tend to be more conservative so those percentages are where I landed. Big OV weekend for Mingo this weekend and hope to make up some serious ground.

[Commercecomet24]

Since I often bitch about posters, let me say that you are one of my favorites. Usually positive with a good take. Thanks man.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[Commercecomet24]

Yep. Commerce is awesome.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[Todd4State]

That rule needs to be fixed. Just isn't good for college football.

I agree. And I would bet that a majority of the time the school just ends up dropping them a year later because they find someone else that they like better.

And as far as blueshirts go- I think schools should be allowed to have 1-3 players a year allowed to be academic scholarship guys. They can still be recruited and go on visits and things like that. I think it's ridiculous that some players are too smart to be recruited essentially.

[ejdallas322]

So apparently Juwan Johnson the Penn State receiver transfer that I think we deeply need is visiting Oregon and TCU. I’m not a dude that really complains abt coaches much, but if we don’t get in this dudes list, I will honestly be pissed off because this dude played under Huff and Moorhead and we desperately need a guy like this.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So apparently Juwan Johnson the Penn State receiver transfer that I think we deeply need is visiting Oregon and TCU. I’m not a dude that really complains abt coaches much, but if we don’t get in this dudes list, I will honestly be pissed off because this dude played under Huff and Moorhead and we desperately need a guy like this.

Where have you seen he's visiting TCU? Not saying he's not I've just not seen anything on it.

[ejdallas322]

My bad that was a different Juwan for TCU. But I still would be very mad if we don’t do anything with this guy.

[msu15]

My bad that was a different Juwan for TCU. But I still would be very mad if we don’t do anything with this guy.

Ba dum tiss

[Really Clark?]

So apparently Juwan Johnson the Penn State receiver transfer that I think we deeply need is visiting Oregon and TCU. I’m not a dude that really complains abt coaches much, but if we don’t get in this dudes list, I will honestly be pissed off because this dude played under Huff and Moorhead and we desperately need a guy like this.

We’ve already reached out but getting pissed off because a transfer is looking for his best opportunity to reach the league as a possible high draft pick is a stretch. We bring a connection to the staff to the table, Oregon brings a high level QB that will most likely be a top draft pick next year. That will mean a lot in his descision

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

We?ve already reached out but getting pissed off because a transfer is looking for his best opportunity to reach the league as a possible high draft pick is a stretch. We bring a connection to the staff to the table, Oregon brings a high level QB that will most likely be a top draft pick next year. That will mean a lot in his descision

Correct. If I had one year to make an impression, I know what I would choose.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

My bad that was a different Juwan for TCU. But I still would be very mad if we don’t do anything with this guy.

Thanks. I just knew I hadn't heard TCU mentioned with him. I've heard Oregon MSU & Miami.

[BiscuitEater]

I will honestly be pissed off because this dude played under Huff and Moorhead and we desperately need a guy like this.

Hopefully, he can get a 'fresh start.' The 6-foot-4, 225-pound Johnson had a breakout redshirt sophomore season, hauling in 54 receptions for 701 yards. His 2018 season however was marred by drops and injuries, as Johnson only totaled 25 receptions for 352 yards in 10 games.

[Dawgology]

Hopefully, he can get a 'fresh start.' The 6-foot-4, 225-pound Johnson had a breakout redshirt sophomore season, hauling in 54 receptions for 701 yards. His 2018 season however was marred by drops and injuries, as Johnson only totaled 25 receptions for 352 yards in 10 games.

Sad part is that puts him 88 yards behind our LEADING receiver for the year.....

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

If the coaches want him then I'm sure he can help the team. Was an Army All American out of HS (95 rating) and it came down to Penn State or Bama. He's from NJ.

[Bdawg]

Haven't heard coach Hughes' name in a while. Was wondering what kind of impact he is having right now and who he is working on?

[Cooterpoot]

Young, Plumlee, and Mingo

[Really Clark?]

Young, Plumlee, and Mingo

Which is exactly the area he needs to concentrate on.

[msstate7]

Young, Plumlee, and Mingo

A. 3/3
B. 2/3
C. 1/3
D. 0/3

[Cooterpoot]

Not sure. Got to wait to see how visits go. I don't see us going 0'fr though.

[msstate7]

Not sure. Got to wait to see how visits go. I don't see us going 0'fr though.

Getting 1 isn't a hr, but I think it's solid.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think we'll get some kind of resolution tonight with Charles Moore. We're having our in home today.

[Todd4State]

Charles Cross got a fifth star on Rivals.

[MetEdDawg]

Charles Cross got a fifth star on Rivals.

How often does 24/7 update their composite ranking? That 5th star and a move up in their rankings would positively affect his 24/7 composite for sure.

[Bodawg]

Charles Cross got a fifth star on Rivals.

BOOM! Between Cross and Dolla Bill, we are set up at left and right tackle for years.

[Cooterpoot]

How often does 24/7 update their composite ranking? That 5th star and a move up in their rankings would positively affect his 24/7 composite for sure.

They have to be sure it doesn't hurt certain teams' rankings before they make their adjustments. Gotta keep everybody in their places.

[Bdawg]

Young, Plumlee, and Mingo

Thanks. Good deal

[Bdawg]

They have to be sure it doesn't hurt certain teams' rankings before they make their adjustments. Gotta keep everybody in their places.

Ha. Can't make the blue blood readership mad.

[Bdawg]

E
I think we'll get some kind of resolution tonight with Charles Moore. We're having our in home today.


They going to push the envelope or what?
Also, is Young watching what Moore does or will that matter?

[MetEdDawg]

Cross moved up 64 spots to number 17 on Rivals. That's a big time move.

[msstate7]

Cross moved up 64 spots to number 17 on Rivals. That's a big time move.

Wow

[Cooterpoot]

E


They going to push the envelope or what?
Also, is Young watching what Moore does or will that matter?

He's not concerned with Moore. The only thing with Young is does he get the opportunities out of state he wants (a lot of teams are filled up). If he gets one of the out of state offers he wants, I won't be surprised if he goes out of state. Just don't know if those are available.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

E


They going to push the envelope or what?
Also, is Young watching what Moore does or will that matter?

Their situations aren't related at all. I think it's an are you with us or want to be here on not talk. If so we'll see you next weekend for your OV. If you're not then God Bless & we go full speed on Young & Lockhart.

[MetEdDawg]

Their situations aren't related at all. I think it's an are you with us or want to be here on not talk. If so we'll see you next weekend for your OV. If you're not then God Bless & we go full speed on Young & Lockhart.

And I'm fine with this approach. We are getting to the point where we can find good kids that want to play for us. We certainly want good/great players to come to MSU. But we also have very good recruiters on staff that understand these kids. I have full confidence we can get someone else in that would work hard for us.

But I hate players jerking us around.

[CadaverDawg]

Sad part is that puts him 88 yards behind our LEADING receiver for the year.....

Embarrassing

[BiscuitEater]

I think schools should be allowed to have 1-3 players a year allowed to be academic scholarship guys. They can still be recruited and go on visits and things like that.

Sorry Todd BUT that would be just one more rule that will be used and abused. Have visions of Bama putting kids on 'academic' just to keep them away from rest of SEC West schools.

[BiscuitEater]

But I hate players jerking us around.

ESPECIALLY one that MSU has stuck with 'AFTER' he was injured and AFTER he didn't have such a stellar senior year.

[Really Clark?]

Sorry Todd BUT that would be just one more rule that will be used and abused. Have visions of Bama putting kids on 'academic' just to keep them away from rest of SEC West schools.

There are already rules in place to stop teams from abusing academic scholarships. You can’t even take a walk on without giving them a scholarship if they have similar offers from like schools already.

[KOdawg1]

I get what you guys mean when you say we "stuck with Moore after his injury", but he's a highly rated prospect. Pretty much any school would've stuck with him had he been committed to them.

However, the games he's playing are BS. Hopefully after today's visit, he'll either be with us or told by JoMo to screw off because we don't have to put up with it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If Moore was a WR or CB I'd say it sucks but we have to put up with his crap because we don't recruit this position at a great level. On the DL I tell him you with us or kick rocks.

[Commercecomet24]

If Moore was a WR or CB I'd say it sucks but we have to put up with his crap because we don't recruit this position at a great level. On the DL I tell him you with us or kick rocks.

Yeah I'm right there with ya on this!

[Cooterpoot]

I get what you guys mean when you say we "stuck with Moore after his injury", but he's a highly rated prospect. Pretty much any school would've stuck with him had he been committed to them.

However, the games he's playing are BS. Hopefully after today's visit, he'll either be with us or told by JoMo to screw off because we don't have to put up with it.

Well, funny that a lot of the schools were late offers and schools that slow played him until they checked him out and pushed after the first signing day. Not to mention, he also got into trouble. That injury wasn't the only thing we overlooked.

[Cooterpoot]

If we don't pull Young and/or Moore, then we've got a hole in our depth on DL.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If we don't pull Young and/or Moore, then we've got a hole in our depth on DL.

Ehh. We stil have Pickering Lovett & Crumedy as Freshmen inside.

[BankerDog]

Well, funny that a lot of the schools were late offers and schools that slow played him until they checked him out and pushed after the first signing day. Not to mention, he also got into trouble. That injury wasn't the only thing we overlooked.

You know what you?re talking about. I mentioned this the night he de-committed and got blasted by several for not coming out with it.

[CadaverDawg]

What time was/is our in home with Moore?

[msbulldog]

Just a damn shame, the kid was so Maroon for so long and somebody coach, friend or family dissuaded him. Damn shame!

[ShotgunDawg]

Just a damn shame, the kid was so Maroon for so long and somebody coach, friend or family dissuaded him. Damn shame!

My guess & this is just a guess, is that some in his family believe that his problems (reasons for getting suspended) are based on "hanging with the wrong crowd" & that moving away from that crowd may be the best thing for him.

Of course that line of thinking has many drawbacks as well.

That's just my guess. I don't believe this situation has anything to do with MSU & more to do the location of MSU & it's proximity to Louisville.

[Homedawg]

Ehh. We stil have Pickering Lovett & Crumedy as Freshmen inside.

With nobody else. I'd call that a hole.

[Turfdawg67]

ESPECIALLY one that MSU has stuck with 'AFTER' he was injured and AFTER he didn't have such a stellar senior year.

Merlins stuck with him too.

[msbulldog]

With nobody else. I'd call that a hole.

I wish we had that kind of hole at wide receiver.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Where does Plumlee go if not here?

OM. They are hard on him as a QB since they hired Rich Rod. They can move him somewhere else if they go with the Tisdale kid at QB.

I think hes a Dawg but thats just my opinion

[BuckyIsAB****]

I've got some inside at UGA. They're having numbers issues already. They'd have to lose several for something to open up. They're trying to load up on grey/blue shirt guys right now. And that's part of this new split signing date too. Going to see it more and more from the big boys.

UGA is all in on Mingo. They have lost some JRs to the draft and are selling Mingo hard on that. I think its a State/UGA battle as to where he goes. We are going to put Hughes on him and see what happens. His OV is this weekend and Will Rogers is going with him.

If he comes here he knows he will be the man, deservedly so. But he has been a UGA fan all his life but he knows he wasnt their number 1 option and he isnt happy about it

[BuckyIsAB****]

I think it will be a signing day decision for Mingo and the craziest parts of his recruitment will happen between now and then. It wont be bad bc hes not that type of kid but he is going to have a lot of things thrown at him between now and then bc UGA, FSU, MSU and OM all think they have a shot. I would be surprised if he stuck with OM after their hire. He will visit all of them but I will give us a 50/50 shot at the worst.

[bobcat91]

So how did the in house with Moore go?

[Ari Gold]

Ehh. We stil have Pickering Lovett & Crumedy as Freshmen inside.

Along with Lee Autry and RS freshman Devon Robinson and Cameron Young
And Marquise Spencer will prob move inside as well

Yeah we lose Simmons and no one will fill those shoes but we aren’t as thin as eveyone thinks

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So how did the in house with Moore go?

It's tomorrow. My bad.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Just a damn shame, the kid was so Maroon for so long and somebody coach, friend or family dissuaded him. Damn shame!

I remember when he showed up to MSU camp with a straw hat, tank top, shorts and cowboy boots I figured then he was all MSU. Hahaha. It's a shame people muddy the water with these kids.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Along with Lee Autry and RS freshman Devon Robinson and Cameron Young
And Marquise Spencer will prob move inside as well

Yeah we lose Simmons and no one will fill those shoes but we aren’t as thin as eveyone thinks

Lee Autry is the only one who has taken snaps (other than redshirt snaps allowed now in 4 games). The depth at DT is one of my biggest concerns. We will be depending on unproven players to play a huge role. Someone will actually be required to start at DT who has taken no snaps at the position (other than the 4 redshirt games). It might be the only position on the roster where that is required. But I do love the potential of the young guys.

[bulldawg28]

Lee Autry is the only one who has taken snaps (other than redshirt snaps allowed now in 4 games). The depth at DT is one of my biggest concerns. We will be depending on unproven players to play a huge role. Someone will actually be required to start at DT who has taken no snaps at the position (other than the 4 redshirt games). It might be the only position on the roster where that is required. But I do love the potential of the young guys.

How is a DT a position where starts are required? Every position has newcomers. The DL actually is one of the easiest to transition to.

[KOdawg1]

247sports readjusted their ratings so that Charles Moore is now #3 in the state. He's ranked higher than Pickering which is completely laughable. Charles Cross, who many thought would be a 5 star, didn't move much. It's all about who you're committed to with these rankings.

[Lord McBuckethead]

300th page. Just saying. 7 pages of recruiting and 293 pages of whatever Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma are doing.lol

[KOdawg1]

300th page. Just saying. 7 pages of recruiting and 293 pages of whatever Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma are doing.lol

The university's academics took up a good 3 lol

[Cooterpoot]

247sports readjusted their ratings so that Charles Moore is now #3 in the state. He's ranked higher than Pickering which is completely laughable. Charles Cross, who many thought would be a 5 star, didn't move much. It's all about who you're committed to with these rankings.

247 didn't. Rivals did. That bump up his composite. Rivals is a joke though. 247 is the only decent site left. He's #6 in theirs I believe. And Cross got a huge bump from Rivals too.

[KOdawg1]

247 didn't. Rivals did. That bump up his composite. Rivals is a joke though. 247 is the only decent site left. He's #6 in theirs I believe. And Cross got a huge bump from Rivals too.
That's what I meant. 247 composite.

[Bdawg]

That's what I meant. 247 composite.

Not sure when 247 does their final ranking but I bet he moves up.

[Bdawg]

247sports readjusted their ratings so that Charles Moore is now #3 in the state. He's ranked higher than Pickering which is completely laughable. Charles Cross, who many thought would be a 5 star, didn't move much. It's all about who you're committed to with these rankings.

Did 247 adjust or some other site, making the composite move? Not sure why he would move up with way some people talked on here about his season not being very stellar.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Did 247 adjust or some other site, making the composite move? Not sure why he would move up with way some people talked on here about his season not being very stellar.

Now that he is considering Auburn/Florida/Tenn he will jump back to 5* - it's good for 247 clicks to do that.

Remember, he was a 5* at one time.

[MetEdDawg]

Now that he is considering Auburn/Florida/Tenn he will jump back to 5* - it's good for 247 clicks to do that.

Remember, he was a 5* at one time.

He was ranked #27 back in November 2017. Then in December there was a lot of chatter he might commit to us. He jumped to the 70s. In February he commits to us and boom. He jumps into the 80's. Then progressively over the next year he hovers in the high 90s and low 100's. He decommits from us and all of a sudden he's now #62 overall. The last time he was ranked that high was November of 2017, 3 months BEFORE he committed to us.

Tell me that isn't messed up.

[yjnkdawg]

300th page. Just saying. 7 pages of recruiting and 293 pages of whatever Clemson, Bama, and Oklahoma are doing.lol


Add in some bitching and griping and some sky is falling drama comments in the 293 pages, and I think you would be spot on. lol

[Gutter Cobreh]

He was ranked #27 back in November 2017. Then in December there was a lot of chatter he might commit to us. He jumped to the 70s. In February he commits to us and boom. He jumps into the 80's. Then progressively over the next year he hovers in the high 90s and low 100's. He decommits from us and all of a sudden he's now #62 overall. The last time he was ranked that high was November of 2017, 3 months BEFORE he committed to us.

Tell me that isn't messed up.

This is a prime example of why we shouldn't chase recruiting stars. We've (myself included) gotten wrapped up into the evaluation system of these sites to the point that we don't acknowledge the evaluation done by our staff (the ones being paid to recruit).

It is used as fodder when we don't "lock up" the state of MS or people that claim this year's class is deep in talent. The last time I checked, we rose to #1 in the country (albeit it was bit of a mirage) with the talent we signed and it wasn't a bunch of 5* kids.

I think we could all agree that the level of talent our staff is bringing in is head and shoulders ahead of where we were 10-12 years ago.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

This is a prime example of why we shouldn't chase recruiting stars. We've (myself included) gotten wrapped up into the evaluation system of these sites to the point that we don't acknowledge the evaluation done by our staff (the ones being paid to recruit).

It is used as fodder when we don't "lock up" the state of MS or people that claim this year's class is deep in talent. The last time I checked, we rose to #1 in the country (albeit it was bit of a mirage) with the talent we signed and it wasn't a bunch of 5* kids.

I think we could all agree that the level of talent our staff is bringing in is head and shoulders ahead of where we were 10-12 years ago.

So our level of recruiting was good enough to get there but fall short in the big games. I want to take the next step and I think we are. I just saw where Ealy is now a composite 5 star.

[bulldawg28]

This is a prime example of why we shouldn't chase recruiting stars. We've (myself included) gotten wrapped up into the evaluation system of these sites to the point that we don't acknowledge the evaluation done by our staff (the ones being paid to recruit).

It is used as fodder when we don't "lock up" the state of MS or people that claim this year's class is deep in talent. The last time I checked, we rose to #1 in the country (albeit it was bit of a mirage) with the talent we signed and it wasn't a bunch of 5* kids.

I think we could all agree that the level of talent our staff is bringing in is head and shoulders ahead of where we were 10-12 years ago.

This all day long. MSU will never get the ratings others received. We just need to win on the field which is all that matters.

[NCDawg]

So our level of recruiting was good enough to get there but fall short in the big games. I want to take the next step and I think we are. I just saw where Ealy is now a composite 5 star.

No doubt Ealy is a 5 star. Probably the best RB recruit in the nation.

[Cooterpoot]

No doubt Ealy is a 5 star. Probably the best RB recruit in the nation.

Naw, best in the country? He's not that good.