2019 Recruiting Thread

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Will losing pat Austin hurt our recruiting this cycle?

No

[maroonmania]

What's going on with Pat Austin?

[Ari Gold]

No

But we do need to make a good hire here. Coach Austin was very good at his job

[Ifyouonlyknew]

But we do need to make a good hire here. Coach Austin was very good at his job

I agree but I think Bump or Banks can do just as well.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I like Banks at Starkville HS...Bump has been in college coaching a few years.

[K9 Avenger]

If we hired Banks, would we be unable to recruit SHS for a couple of years? Is there not a relatively new NCAA rule that would prohibit that? If true, that would seem to make Bumphis the more desirable hire...

[Johnson85]

They are backups. The starters are Eiland, Calhoun, Jenkins, Reese, and Williams. Champion and Phillips will be backups, along with Story.

Hence the comment about Suggs being ready to start in 2019. If Champion and Phillips are not SEC starter quality prospects and they are the back-ups in 2018, that leaves a lot of question marks as to who we are going to use to fill out our OLine in 2019, when Calhoun and Jenkins are gone. Either Suggs will have to make a big jump, and/or Dollar Bill will have to be ready as a RS Freshman, and/or we will have to find a JUCO or two who are ready to start.

Of course I don't have any great source as to the quality of CHampion and Phillips, so maybe they will be fine as starters in 2019; that's just not generally the opinion when people have weighed in on them.

ETA: And again, Suggs is also important because he is one of the HS'ers in back to back classes with one HS Oline. If he is a bust, that is going to make it much harder on us going forward. If Suggs and Dolla Bill are busts, we will have two years where our OLINe will be completely filled by JUCO's and underclassmen. I've got to think the O-lines meeting that description are usually not good.

[Homedawg]

Phillips is a legit starter. IYOK already pointed that out too.

[vv83]

any update on Pat's replacement?

[BuckyIsAB****]

IYOK or Ari, we better get on Mingo quick bc this kid is gonna blow the roof off in 2018.

Notre Dame, UGA, Bama, Auburn, have already offered and it wouldnt surprise me if UF does over the summer

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK or Ari, we better get on Mingo quick bc this kid is gonna blow the roof off in 2018.

Notre Dame, UGA, Bama, Auburn, have already offered and it wouldnt surprise me if UF does over the summer

I'm going to be honest if he's set on playing WR I'm good. If he's willing to play defense then I'm all in.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm going to be honest if he's set on playing WR I'm good. If he's willing to play defense then I'm all in.

Hes a WR. Not a DB.

Why do you not like him at WR?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Hes a WR. Not a DB.

Why do you not like him at WR?

He doesn't stand out to me at WR. Others may think otherwise I just don't see a big time SEC WR in Mingo. I think we can sign better.

[TStationDawg]

I think we can sign better. We are about to get good news on this front within the next 2 weeks. I'm pumped about it.

[Doggie_Style]

We are about to get good news on this front within the next 2 weeks. I'm pumped about it.

Care to give us a hint? It doesn't seem like we are getting a lot of 'big time' interest at WR. Dannis Jackson looks great but he doesn't appear interested at this point. Then there is Pruitt, Scurry and maybe Jernigan......anyone else?

[Ari Gold]

It just sucks that we are MooU and just a redneck agricultural school.. too bad our Engineering program isn’t good...****

[jumbo]

If we hired Banks, would we be unable to recruit SHS for a couple of years? Is there not a relatively new NCAA rule that would prohibit that? If true, that would seem to make Bumphis the more desirable hire...



Banks has not signed a contract with SHS yet, so we won't have to worry about any NCAA stuff if we hire him.

[NotCoJoMo]

It just sucks that we are MooU and just a redneck agricultural school.. too bad our Engineering program isn’t good...****

I really hope this is pointing to one of the two LB-targets interested in engineering...

[BuckyIsAB****]

He doesn't stand out to me at WR. Others may think otherwise I just don't see a big time SEC WR in Mingo. I think we can sign better.

Granted he was a little up and down last year but in 2018 he will change your mind I believe

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Granted he was a little up and down last year but in 2018 he will change your mind I believe

He very well may. I know OM is really selling him on playing WR. They lead right now.

[Bothrops]

It just sucks that we are MooU and just a redneck agricultural school.. too bad our Engineering program isn?t good...****

Not a response, but we need to promote our engineering accomplishments more in our mainstream commercials and take a break from the lively type themes in recent commercials. Never have understood why they don't advertise that more. To stay on topic, it would help us in recruiting certain types of football players.

[BeardoMSU]

NM. Wrong thread.

[BeardoMSU]

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[Cooterpoot]

Not a response, but we need to promote our engineering accomplishments more in our mainstream commercials and take a break from the lively type themes in recent commercials. Never have understood why they don't advertise that more. To stay on topic, it would help us in recruiting certain types of football players.

Our engineering school isn't that highly rated anymore. Not even in our conference.

[msstate7]

Our engineering school isn't that highly rated anymore. Not even in our conference.

No idea how credible us news is at ranking engineering schools, but it has us at #106 nationally and 10th in the sec.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings/page+5

[bostondawg]

No idea how credible us news is at ranking engineering schools, but it has us at #106 nationally and 10th in the sec.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings/page+5

When I entered as a freshman in 2011 we were ranked in the high 70s. It's been a big drop off.

[msstate7]

When I entered as a freshman in 2011 we were ranked in the high 70s. It's been a big drop off.

Lost our R1 status also. I think it's time we get more serious about academics. Rant over... back to recruiting

[Doggie_Style]

Our engineering school isn't that highly rated anymore. Not even in our conference.

I, my brother and Father all have engineering degrees from State.....the engineer school has always been shit on by the administration

[TALL DAWG]

I, my brother and Father all have engineering degrees from State.....the engineer school has always been shit on by the administration

Why has the engineering school been dumped on by administration?
Please elaborate. My son is a jr in Chem Engineering at MSU now.
Do I need to look to move him out of state??

[BeardoMSU]

Do I need to look to move him out of state??

No.

[Okrastar1]

Recruiting thread FYI....

[Bothrops]

Lost our R1 status also. I think it's time we get more serious about academics. Rant over... back to recruiting

MSU and Auburn lost their R1 status, while Ole Miss gained R1 status....makes sense**

[Ari Gold]

Recruiting thread FYI....

Yes and thank you. I regret posting that now, but trust me it is in reference to recruiting.

[msstate7]

So, seems there is a lull right now with recruiting. When should we expect to pick up some more commits?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Why has the engineering school been dumped on by administration?
Please elaborate. My son is a jr in Chem Engineering at MSU now.
Do I need to look to move him out of state??

I would hope he would have a say in that..

[jumbo]

So, seems there is a lull right now with recruiting. When should we expect to pick up some more commits?

Probably when summer camps start up

[BuckyIsAB****]

Probably when summer camps start up

Beginning of June

[Ari Gold]

So, seems there is a lull right now with recruiting. When should we expect to pick up some more commits?

Be patient... summer will have some momentum , visitors and commits but when the season gets cranked up and we start whipping ass look for some of the big boys to start showing major interest and getting on board
Going to be a lot of action early signing period and in Feb...

[msstate7]

Be patient... summer will have some momentum , visitors and commits but when the season gets cranked up and we start whipping ass look for some of the big boys to start showing major interest and getting on board
Going to be a lot of action early signing period and in Feb...

Oh, I'm thrilled with recruiting right now. I'm really impressed with this staff. I was just wondering when the action would pick up again

[BoomBoom]

When I entered as a freshman in 2011 we were ranked in the high 70s. It's been a big drop off.

What, running off the best professors and replacing them with foreign grad students comes with a price? Who knew?

[Bully13]

What, running off the best professors and replacing them with foreign grad students comes with a price? Who knew?

Delete.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Can you guys move the non recruiting talk to a separate thread? No disrespect but don't need to clutter this thread up.

[Ari Gold]

Can you guys move the non recruiting talk to a separate thread? No disrespect but don't need to clutter this thread up.

This is the third request now for this.

[Bulldog1]

This stuff should be merged to a different thread. This is the recruiting thread.

[Bully13]

My bad, I deleted it. and I understand my mistake.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Heard some good things about Turnage.

I think we are in better shape there than people realize.

[Ari Gold]

Heard some good things about Turnage.

I think we are in better shape there than people realize.

You would be correct.. see page 33 of this thread..

[BuckyIsAB****]

You would be correct.. see page 33 of this thread..

Moorhead has done a great job in state connecting with coaches and kids.

He is so down to earth and approachable. You'd never think the guy was a HC in the SEC

[Bothrops]

I'm hoping we will be taking more receivers now. Any new names of consideration? I think we should take 4, myself. Maybe, just maybe we can get 2 of those to dress out in the fall time of year.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm hoping we will be taking more receivers now. Any new names of consideration? I think we should take 4, myself. Maybe, just maybe we can get 2 of those to dress out in the fall time of year.

As I said, if we arent after Jonathan Mingo at WR then its our own fault.

[Cooterpoot]

Mingo isn’t the stud WR we need. He’s more of the same.

[Bully13]

If Ari is right about Turnage, I'll be SO full of Wool.

[Ari Gold]

Coming soon.... prob before memorial weekend
Going to drop the big board and How I think we look and going to look come Early sign period and NSD.

[bostondawg]

Coming soon.... prob before memorial weekend
Going to drop the big board and How I think we look and going to look come Early sign period and NSD.

Excited about this. Great work so far.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Mingo isn’t the stud WR we need. He’s more of the same.

Ok. Come back in december and see if you are saying that.

Some people here are all about the offer sheets, you know what his says? Bama, Auburn, UGA, Notre Dame, OM, MSU, Oregon and more

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ok. Come back in december and see if you are saying that.

Some people here are all about the offer sheets, you know what his says? Bama, Auburn, UGA, Notre Dame, OM, MSU, Oregon and more

This is 1 where 1 of us is going to come back in a few years & say we were wrong. I have no doubt he can play WR in the SEC I just have serious doubt if he can be a game changer at WR in the SEC. I think if he focused solely on defense he could be an All SEC Safety. I may be totally underestimating his WR ability but it just doesn't jump off the page to me. If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

This is 1 where 1 of us is going to come back in a few years & say we were wrong. I have no doubt he can play WR in the SEC I just have serious doubt if he can be a game changer at WR in the SEC. I think if he focused solely on defense he could be an All SEC Safety. I may be totally underestimating his WR ability but it just doesn't jump off the page to me. If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it.

As far as I can tell we are the only ones that do not want him as a WR. If thats the case.

He was inconsistent some as a Jr bc he played both ways but in the games he only played WR he averaged a TD and almost 150 yards a game. He wont be playing much defense in 2018

To each his own, I respect your opinion but if we are needing WRs and not after this kid as one then we dont need to bitch in december when he goes somewhere else

[Ari Gold]

As far as I can tell we are the only ones that do not want him as a WR. If thats the case.

He was inconsistent some as a Jr bc he played both ways but in the games he only played WR he averaged a TD and almost 150 yards a game. He wont be playing much defense in 2018

To each his own, I respect your opinion but if we are needing WRs and not after this kid as one then we dont need to bitch in december when he goes somewhere else

We are recruiting him. But just because other schools say they are recruiting him as a Wr only that doesn?t mean he will be playing that position... he may very end up being an SEC caliber WR as a player and I hope he ends up in This class

[Cooterpoot]

Ok. Come back in december and see if you are saying that.

Some people here are all about the offer sheets, you know what his says? Bama, Auburn, UGA, Notre Dame, OM, MSU, Oregon and more

Don't get mad. He's a good player. But just like Plumlee, he's an athlete first.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Don't get mad. He's a good player. But just like Plumlee, he's an athlete first.

You are entitled to your opinion

[ejdallas322]

Nathan Pickering and John Emery are my two favorite targets as of now that would really raise a lot of other eyebrows if they committed to us. The problem is that they went from both being projected Mississippi State commits to now there are 3-5 teams that are really buzzing around their radar. I guess it's just a part of the taking in the recruiting process, but I sure do hope we get those guys because then it could be like a domino effect with commits from their.

[ejdallas322]

But then again we need some freakin wide receivers that are legit talented.

[ejdallas322]

We mainly need Dbs and Wide receivers right now.

[Ari Gold]

Nathan Pickering and John Emery are my two favorite targets as of now that would really raise a lot of other eyebrows if they committed to us. The problem is that they went from both being projected Mississippi State commits to now there are 3-5 teams that are really buzzing around their radar. I guess it's just a part of the taking in the recruiting process, but I sure do hope we get those guys because then it could be like a domino effect with commits from their.

Players this talented are going to have lots of buzz with other teams.
If today was NSD we would get Pickering and would have a great shot at Emery

[ejdallas322]

Do you guys think we have a chance with Ronald Thompkins Jr?

[MetEdDawg]

Players this talented are going to have lots of buzz with other teams.
If today was NSD we would get Pickering and would have a great shot at Emery

If we are going to try and recruit at a competitive level, we have to be comfortable with this being the new norm for both in state and out of state kids. The top talent in MS is going to get looks from good schools and in a year like this, there's going to be a lot of buzz around a lot of guys.

We just have to get used to being uncomfortable sometimes because when you start playing the big boys, the recruiting game gets a little different.

[Ari Gold]

Do you guys think we have a chance with Ronald Thompkins Jr?

Chance yes, expect no.
I think he is down on the big board behind Emery and Gray.
I expect to get one if not both of them.

Of course there is Ealy, who I don’t think plays college ball anyway but if he does it won’t be in Oxford.

[FriarsPoint]

Ari, what?s the situation with the 5 star LB from Horn Lake? Any shot?

[KOdawg1]

Ari, what?s the situation with the 5 star LB from Horn Lake? Any shot?
Nakobe Dean

[Lord McBuckethead]

Horn Lake is my old stomping grounds. Go Eagles.

[KOdawg1]

KJ Jefferson, QB out of North Panola, says he's announcing his commitment tomorrow. Arkansas people feel like it'll be to them. I know we already have our QB, just thought maybe we could take him too.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

KJ Jefferson, QB out of North Panola, says he's announcing his commitment tomorrow. Arkansas people feel like it'll be to them. I know we already have our QB, just thought maybe we could take him too.

We would take him but he's Arkansas bound. He's been their #1 target from day 1. Its very hard to get 2 very good QB's in a class.

[msbulldog]

We would take him but he's Arkansas bound. He's been their #1 target from day 1. Its very hard to get 2 very good QB's in a class.

Pnut that's why we need to work really hard on Plumlee, he can play QB and can play other elite positions.

[Bully13]

Are we set at QB with the NC guy? We are not looking for any other QB's are we? what about OL? we only have 2 , right? who else is looking warm in that category? And what's the scoop on that other guy whose already signed but is part of our '19 class from GA? no bio on him on 247. What's the scoop?

[WPS]

KJ Jefferson, QB out of North Panola, says he's announcing his commitment tomorrow. Arkansas people feel like it'll be to them. I know we already have our QB, just thought maybe we could take him too.

He did just pick up an A&M offer a few days ago but I thought he?d commit to Arkansas for a while now. Originally thought Morris would go after Gunnell hard but he seems to love Jefferson, pretty good fit for that offense.

[Bully13]

He did just pick up an A&M offer a few days ago but I thought he?d commit to Arkansas for a while now. Originally thought Morris would go after Gunnell hard but he seems to love Jefferson, pretty good fit for that offense.

Post more. It appears your a good little Piggie that makes quality posts. We also have 2 Bamer brethren we allow due to non trolling and quality posting. You have to be a quality opposition poster to make it on the heralded and famous ED. You must be one since this is post # 112.

Good day sir and God speed.

[Covercorner2]

Pnut that's why we need to work really hard on Plumlee, he can play QB and can play other elite positions.

That's the plan with him and Peter Parrish.

Probably going to boil down to whether or not either one of them can be guaranteed a QB spot at another Power 5 school.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That's the plan with him and Peter Parrish.

Probably going to boil down to whether or not either one of them can be guaranteed a QB spot at another Power 5 school.

Peter Parrish definitely will. He's being recruited pretty much exclusively as a QB. Plumlee is being recruited more as an athlete with a chance to play QB.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Are we set at QB with the NC guy? We are not looking for any other QB's are we? what about OL? we only have 2 , right? who else is looking warm in that category? And what's the scoop on that other guy whose already signed but is part of our '19 class from GA? no bio on him on 247. What's the scoop?

It's standard to have 4 scholarship QBs, so we're trying to get 2 in this class. NC guy is the real deal though, so it'll be hard to get a projectable 2nd QB on board early when they may get an off from a good program with no QBs. We have 2 OLs commited, and we're on Hubbard from PA and a 6'6" instate guy (Cross). Also a guy in IMG that's friends with the King Ani. None of those 3 are super sought after by other P5 programs, but OL is so hard to project you kinda have to trust that the staff knows what to look for. We're looking to sign 5-6 OL. Steve sounded positive about Cross, but mentioned OM was still in it. The OL from Georgia isn't getting much attention because he redshirted last year in JuCo. When he gets to us I think he should have 3 to play 3. I have no idea how good he (Richardson) is

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Post more. It appears your a good little Piggie that makes quality posts. We also have 2 Bamer brethren we allow due to non trolling and quality posting. You have to be a quality opposition poster to make it on the heralded and famous ED. You must be one since this is post # 112.

Good day sir and God speed.

My question is why the hell he is even here on a Mississippi State recruiting thread? I mean I don't make a habit to troll Arkansas boards.

[Ari Gold]

It's standard to have 4 scholarship QBs, so we're trying to get 2 in this class. NC guy is the real deal though, so it'll be hard to get a projectable 2nd QB on board early when they may get an off from a good program with no QBs. We have 2 OLs commited, and we're on Hubbard from PA and a 6'6" instate guy (Cross). Also a guy in IMG that's friends with the King Ani. None of those 3 are super sought after by other P5 programs, but OL is so hard to project you kinda have to trust that the staff knows what to look for. We're looking to sign 5-6 OL. Steve sounded positive about Cross, but mentioned OM was still in it. The OL from Georgia isn't getting much attention because he redshirted last year in JuCo. When he gets to us I think he should have 3 to play 3. I have no idea how good he (Richardson) is

I have said before that OL isn’t a club I have in my bag,
But we are on a couple of other guys one being Keiondre Jones (would be huge) , Darius Washington and Adrain Medley. Was told we feel Like we are in the running for all 3.
If we can close 2 of these guys along Hubbard and Cross along with Cunningham and Richardson that’s about as good of a OL as you could ask for.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

OL we're in the top 3-5 on

Keiondre Jones 11 SEC offers 23 P5 offers

Adrian Medley 10 SEC offers 21 P5 offers

Laquinston Sharp 4 SEC offers

Ja'quay Hubbard 1 SEC offer 4 P5 offers

Hunter Rayburn 8 SEC offers 18 P5 offers

Charles Cross 4 SEC offers 6 P5 offers

Darius Washington 3 SEC offers 10 P5 offers

Chris Akporoghene 6 SEC offers 20 P5 offers


Pull 4 of those to go along with Richardson & Cunningham & you've got a really solid OL Class

[Bully13]

Thanks IFYOK, but can someone give us some info on Richardson? Hasn't he already signed a LOI with us? there is no bio info on him.

[Ari Gold]

OL we're in the top 3-5 on

Keiondre Jones 11 SEC offers 23 P5 offers

Adrian Medley 10 SEC offers 21 P5 offers

Laquinston Sharp 4 SEC offers

Ja'quay Hubbard 1 SEC offer 4 P5 offers

Hunter Rayburn 8 SEC offers 18 P5 offers

Charles Cross 4 SEC offers 6 P5 offers

Darius Washington 3 SEC offers 10 P5 offers

Chris Akporoghene 6 SEC offers 20 P5 offers


Pull 4 of those to go along with Richardson & Cunningham & you've got a really solid OL Class
Agree..
hell just get 3 of these guys is a win . And if Jones is apart of this class It is a huge win.

[oldjoedawg]

Horn Lake is my old stomping grounds. Go Eagles.

What year? Class of 1958 here.....yep, go Eagles and go Dawgs. Lord McB, you might enjoy a website I maintain for the HLHS alumni....you can find it at
"www.hornlakeeaglenews.com" http://www.hornlakeeaglenews.com/index.shtm

[msbulldog]

It's standard to have 4 scholarship QBs, so we're trying to get 2 in this class. NC guy is the real deal though, so it'll be hard to get a projectable 2nd QB on board early when they may get an off from a good program with no QBs. We have 2 OLs commited, and we're on Hubbard from PA and a 6'6" instate guy (Cross). Also a guy in IMG that's friends with the King Ani. None of those 3 are super sought after by other P5 programs, but OL is so hard to project you kinda have to trust that the staff knows what to look for. We're looking to sign 5-6 OL. Steve sounded positive about Cross, but mentioned OM was still in it. The OL from Georgia isn't getting much attention because he redshirted last year in JuCo. When he gets to us I think he should have 3 to play 3. I have no idea how good he (Richardson) is

There is also a OL at EMCC that we're working on (LAQUINSTON SHARP OG 6-3 305 CLASS OF 19). He's from Columbus and buddies with Kylin Hill.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Class of 2001. Eagles and dawgs.

[Lord McBuckethead]

So nothing going on? guess we are all waiting for the camps to start.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So nothing going on? guess we are all waiting for the camps to start.

Camps start June 2nd. I expect a nice group of prospects to come through Starkville over the course of those 3 weeks.

[msbulldog]

OL we're in the top 3-5 on

Keiondre Jones 11 SEC offers 23 P5 offers

Adrian Medley 10 SEC offers 21 P5 offers

Laquinston Sharp 4 SEC offers

Ja'quay Hubbard 1 SEC offer 4 P5 offers

Hunter Rayburn 8 SEC offers 18 P5 offers

Charles Cross 4 SEC offers 6 P5 offers

Darius Washington 3 SEC offers 10 P5 offers

Chris Akporoghene 6 SEC offers 20 P5 offers


Pull 4 of those to go along with Richardson & Cunningham & you've got a really solid OL Class

Great information! +1

[msbulldog]

Thanks IFYOK, but can someone give us some info on Richardson? Hasn't he already signed a LOI with us? there is no bio info on him.

Here you go 13:
"Richardson is a 6-foot-6, 310 pound offensive tackle out of Albany (Ga.) Westover. He has the frame, length and bulk coaches look for in offensive linemen today. He has big hands, a has good leg drive, and he flashes good punch. As a run blocker, he uses his size to his advantage. He can just lean on defenders at times, but he flashes the ability to drive opponents off the ball and to block down the field. In pass protection, Richardson has length and he uses that to hold defenders off the quarterback. He needs to improve his quickness and footwork. When engaged, he can improve his balance as well. Overall, Richardson is a big body who needs to improve his pad level, his hand usage and his over his strength. He flashes leg drive, he has some pop and as he refines his body and improves his technique, he could develop into a solid lineman on the next level." from 247

[Bully13]

Here you go 13:
"Richardson is a 6-foot-6, 310 pound offensive tackle out of Albany (Ga.) Westover. He has the frame, length and bulk coaches look for in offensive linemen today. He has big hands, a has good leg drive, and he flashes good punch. As a run blocker, he uses his size to his advantage. He can just lean on defenders at times, but he flashes the ability to drive opponents off the ball and to block down the field. In pass protection, Richardson has length and he uses that to hold defenders off the quarterback. He needs to improve his quickness and footwork. When engaged, he can improve his balance as well. Overall, Richardson is a big body who needs to improve his pad level, his hand usage and his over his strength. He flashes leg drive, he has some pop and as he refines his body and improves his technique, he could develop into a solid lineman on the next level." from 247

Thanks MSbulldog. Future potential with a redshirt this year?

[Ari Gold]

Big Board RB
This is short and easy .

1. John Emery Jr
2. Eric Gray
3. Jerrion Ealy
4. Ronald Thompkins
*they could actually 1a, 1b, 1c
There’s a few more names but no need to list .

As of now it will be Eric Gray. And it could happen sooner than later. Also I think we flip Jerrion Ealy but he ends up going the MLB route.
I’m not counting out Emery Jr but I think in the end he ends up at LSU but it wouldn’t shock me if he came to Msu . Coach Huff is a stud recruiter.

Other positions coming ..

[msu15]

Big Board RB
This is short and easy .

1. John Emery Jr
2. Eric Gray
3. Jerrion Ealy
4. Ronald Thompkins
*they could actually 1a, 1b, 1c
There’s a few more names but no need to list .

As of now it will be Eric Gray. And it could happen sooner than later. Also I think we flip Jerrion Ealy but he ends up going the MLB route.
I’m not counting out Emery Jr but I think in the end he ends up at LSU but it wouldn’t shock me if he came to Msu . Coach Huff is a stud recruiter.

Other positions coming ..

Thank you Ari and looking forward to what's coming!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Big Board RB
This is short and easy .

1. John Emery Jr
2. Eric Gray
3. Jerrion Ealy
4. Ronald Thompkins
*they could actually 1a, 1b, 1c
There’s a few more names but no need to list .

As of now it will be Eric Gray. And it could happen sooner than later. Also I think we flip Jerrion Ealy but he ends up going the MLB route.
I’m not counting out Emery Jr but I think in the end he ends up at LSU but it wouldn’t shock me if he came to Msu . Coach Huff is a stud recruiter.

Other positions coming ..

Any of those would be a good get. Thanks Ari

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Any of those would be a good get. Thanks Ari

Bucky you'll be happy to hear this but we're recruiting Mingo exclusively as a WR now. We'll see if it pays off I know OM is his leader right now.

[Ari Gold]

Bucky you'll be happy to hear this but we're recruiting Mingo exclusively as a WR now. We'll see if it pays off I know OM is his leader right now.

Good info... IYOK
I wonder how that changes the big boards for DB and WR ?? My guess not very much since he was on both.
I am hoping to get that info soon

[Cooterpoot]

Our coaches recruit so much better than the previous bunch. We don't paint ourselves into a corner and draw lines in the sand like they did. Damn good to see!

[Commercecomet24]

Our coaches recruit so much better than the previous bunch. We don't paint ourselves into a corner and draw lines in the sand like they did. Damn good to see!

Breath of fresh air and night and day difference on our recruiting approach now.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Good info... IYOK
I wonder how that changes the big boards for DB and WR ?? My guess not very much since he was on both.
I am hoping to get that info soon

Safety I think it ends up Martin Emerson & Jarrian Jones.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Bucky you'll be happy to hear this but we're recruiting Mingo exclusively as a WR now. We'll see if it pays off I know OM is his leader right now.

Good deal. He is close with Jarrian Jones, Ealy and Will Rogers (2020 QB) so it will only do good for us. He is as good after the catch as anyone I've seen in high school. He has some Randy Moss in him. Im not sure who his leader is, Will is a big OM fan so it could be them. He hasnt been very vocal about it though

Thanks for the update

[Bully13]

Safety I think it ends up Martin Emerson & Jarrian Jones.

So we are still saying Jones' commitment to OK will not stand?

[Ari Gold]

Safety I think it ends up Martin Emerson & Jarrian Jones.

Agree ..

[Ari Gold]

So we are still saying Jones' commitment to OK will not stand?

Will be shocked if he isn’t a dog.

[Ari Gold]

DB ..
I think we sign 6 or 7
In no particular order as of now I see:

DJ James ( committed)
Javeious Purvis ( committed) and he might LB in college
Brandon Turnage ( flips from Bama )
Jarrian Jones ( flips from OU)
Martin Emerson
Gregory Brooks Jr
John Rhys Plumlee ( athlete , won’t play QB here ) and I wouldn’t rule out WR with him

Maurice Hampton . I think it may depend on who the baseball hire is if we can get him back in play but is a for sure take
Jaydon Hill . Think he ends up at USCe also a take
Ishmael Burdine . Not sure how hard we are on him
And I still say Mingo if he ends up at State he plays on defense ..

[Bully13]

DB ..
I think we sign 6 or 7
In no particular order as of now I see:

DJ James ( committed)
Javeious Purvis ( committed) and he might LB in college
Brandon Turnage ( flips from Bama )
Jarrian Jones ( flips from OU)
Martin Emerson
Gregory Brooks Jr
John Rhys Plumlee ( athlete , won’t play QB here ) and I wouldn’t rule out WR with him

Maurice Hampton . I think it may depend on who the baseball hire is if we can get him back in play but is a for sure take
Jaydon Hill . Think he ends up at USCe also a take
Ishmael Burdine . Not sure how hard we are on him
And I still say Mingo if he ends up at State he plays on defense ..

I don't have the numbers or a spreadsheet in front of me but my gut is telling me if things shape up like you and IFYOK are predicting, we could have as good of a class we've ever had. I know a lot of that is riding on how well we do on the field this year I would assume.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

DB ..
I think we sign 6 or 7
In no particular order as of now I see:

DJ James ( committed)
Javeious Purvis ( committed) and he might LB in college
Brandon Turnage ( flips from Bama )
Jarrian Jones ( flips from OU)
Martin Emerson
Gregory Brooks Jr
John Rhys Plumlee ( athlete , won’t play QB here ) and I wouldn’t rule out WR with him

Maurice Hampton . I think it may depend on who the baseball hire is if we can get him back in play but is a for sure take
Jaydon Hill . Think he ends up at USCe also a take
Ishmael Burdine . Not sure how hard we are on him
And I still say Mingo if he ends up at State he plays on defense ..

I hope we get Turnage but I'll need to see it.
Burdine is higher on the board than Brooks from my understanding & I think we have a good shot at him.
Don't feel good on Hampton or Hill.

[BuckyIsAB****]

DB ..
I think we sign 6 or 7
In no particular order as of now I see:

DJ James ( committed)
Javeious Purvis ( committed) and he might LB in college
Brandon Turnage ( flips from Bama )
Jarrian Jones ( flips from OU)
Martin Emerson
Gregory Brooks Jr
John Rhys Plumlee ( athlete , won’t play QB here ) and I wouldn’t rule out WR with him

Maurice Hampton . I think it may depend on who the baseball hire is if we can get him back in play but is a for sure take
Jaydon Hill . Think he ends up at USCe also a take
Ishmael Burdine . Not sure how hard we are on him
And I still say Mingo if he ends up at State he plays on defense ..

Plumlee and Mingo aint DBs and I've heard good things about Turnage but it will be tough to get him from Saban.

He is every bit as good as advertised though

[Ari Gold]

I hope we get Turnage but I'll need to see it.
Burdine is higher on the board than Brooks from my understanding & I think we have a good shot at him.
Don't feel good on Hampton or Hill.

I agree with Hampton and Hill ...
Just really like where we are with Turnage , that may change but I bet he is in Starkville a lot this fall....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I agree with Hampton and Hill ...
Just really like where we are with Turnage , that may change but I bet he is in Starkville a lot this fall....

I've heard similar but I just need to see that signature on paper.

[Ari Gold]

Plumlee and Mingo aint DBs and I've heard good things about Turnage but it will be tough to get him from Saban.

He is every bit as good as advertised though

Plumlee was one of the top if not the top DB (CB) at BDC last year as a jr..

[Cooterpoot]

Plumlee is leaning AL and Clemson right now. USM in the mix. He's not mentioning us much and won't until he sees how camp goes.

[JNC23]

Ari/IYOK ? do we know anything on this Keshawn King kid out of Florida that just picked up an offer? 4* 2019 RB. Seems interesting with so many backs that we’re currently after in this class.

https://twitter.com/keshawnk25/status/998904412566409217?s=21

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Plumlee is leaning AL and Clemson right now. USM in the mix. He's not mentioning us much and won't until he sees how camp goes.

Bama? I thought he wanted to play QB. I've heard we're doing well with Plumlee & he & JoeMo speak daily.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ari/IYOK ? do we know anything on this Keshawn King kid out of Florida that just picked up an offer? 4* 2019 RB. Seems interesting with so many backs that we’re currently after in this class.

https://twitter.com/keshawnk25/status/998904412566409217?s=21

Not sure but seems like a typical TBuck South Florida offer.

[Ari Gold]

Not sure but seems like a typical TBuck South Florida offer.

That’s my guess too.

[Ari Gold]

Bama? I thought he wanted to play QB. I've heard we're doing well with Plumlee & he & JoeMo speak daily.

Clemson? I thought he wanted to play QB. And we are and they do.

[Bulldog1]

Wrong thread.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Plumlee was one of the top if not the top DB (CB) at BDC last year as a jr..

BDC isnt a game

[BuckyIsAB****]

I think we get Derrick Hall Ari, IYOK, what say you

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think we get Derrick Hall Ari, IYOK, what say you

I agree

[Ari Gold]

Before I drop the LB Board I will go ahead and lay this out.

Nakobe Dean to state.( sorry ISID ripped your line) Yeah I ****ing said it. I have my reasons for thinking this and no I don’t feel as good about it as I did with Whop but I like our chances right now as good as anyone. Things could always change but Again I have my reasons. I will say ND is prob going to be a EE so all the late shenanigans won’t effect him.

1.) Dean
2.) Derick Hall
3.) Zach Edwards
4.) Jack Harris

Also I think Diwan Black and possible Purvis play LB at the next level. We would for sure take Black but he is 50/50 at best to get qualified from what I am told.

A lot will determine with Deans early decision who we take.
Hall is ours to lose. And take no matter what.
Harris would committ today if pressed and I think he will end up in the class. (Also might play DE)
Edwards will prob flip and sign with us. Kind of got the impression that if he wasn’t at Starkville high I don’t think we would spend near as much time recruiting him.

Prob take 3 at this position.

[KOdawg1]

I'm fine with us letting Edwards go to LSU if we're able to pull Dean and Hall. Those are two difference makers!

[Red Sox Dawg]

Dean, Hall, and Harris would be awesome. Take that and call it a day.

[msu15]

Dean, Hall, and Harris would be awesome. Take that and call it a day.

I'm greedy, give me all 4.

[1bigdawg]

I'm greedy, give me all 4.

Even taking 3 is a stretch. We need 5 DBs and this is the best DL class overall that we have seen coming out of MS. We will take 5 or 6 if it is the right 6. Then we need 5 or 6 OLs. The numbers just are not there to take 4 LBs.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I doubt we get all 4 but if we did that would be one of the best LB hauls in the country.

Probably the best

[Ari Gold]

Even taking 3 is a stretch. We need 5 DBs and this is the best DL class overall that we have seen coming out of MS. We will take 5 or 6 if it is the right 6. Then we need 5 or 6 OLs. The numbers just are not there to take 4 LBs.

That’s why I said it all depends on what Dean does.
Hall And Dean takes for sure and 2 future studs
You get both of them you don’t turn down Harris , and he may end up at DE and you prob don’t turn away Edwards.

Let it play out and let’s see what happens . And yeah I think we take prob 5 DL
Will get to that at some point

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Ari said we'll take "6 or 7" DBs (lets say 6), and 6 OL. Add in 2 QBs, 5 DL, and you're up to 19 commits. If we take 3 LBs and 1 RB, that leaves 12 spot for WR, K, and TE. JoMo already said they probably weren't going to take a TE, so that's solved. But we want 1 RB and 3 WRs, meaning 2 spots have to come from the numbers Ari gave for DB, DL, QB, and OL. My guess is we take 1 from the DBs, and we only have a 1 QB class as the QBs Moorhead considers to be worth a spot get other offers to be the #1.

But I guess what I'm trying to say is that Aris' math is already super tight, and we probably won't take a 4th LB if we really have the 3 studs already on board. Ari can clarify though if I'm mis-remembering what he's said

[Ari Gold]

Ari said we'll take "6 or 7" DBs (lets say 6), and 6 OL. Add in 2 QBs, 5 DL, and you're up to 19 commits. If we take 3 LBs and 1 RB, that leaves 12 spot for WR, K, and TE. JoMo already said they probably weren't going to take a TE, so that's solved. But we want 1 RB and 3 WRs, meaning 2 spots have to come from the numbers Ari gave for DB, DL, QB, and OL. My guess is we take 1 from the DBs, and we only have a 1 QB class as the QBs Moorhead considers to be worth a spot get other offers to be the #1.

But I guess what I'm trying to say is that Aris' math is already super tight, and we probably won't take a 4th LB if we really have the 3 studs already on board. Ari can clarify though if I'm mis-remembering what he's said

Numbers will work out.. they always do.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'd guess

2 - QB
1 - RB
3 - WR
6 - OL
5 - DL
3 - LB
5 - DB

[Ari Gold]

I'd guess

2 - QB
1 - RB
3 - WR
6 - OL
5 - DL
3 - LB
5 - DB

I would agree those will be very close .
I would say 1-QB , 1-athlete (JRP) and 5OL

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I would agree those will be very close .
I would say 1-QB , 1-athlete (JRP) and 5OL

Plumlee was the 2nd QB I was including & I think they'll end up getting 6 good OL & they won't turn down a good OL 1 over their desired # if they can get it.

[Ari Gold]

Plumlee was the 2nd QB I was including & I think they'll end up getting 6 good OL & they won't turn down a good OL 1 over their desired # if they can get it.

Agree.
Turnage, Dean and Emery are the X factors with the numbers.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Plumlee was the 2nd QB I was including & I think they'll end up getting 6 good OL & they won't turn down a good OL 1 over their desired # if they can get it.

Agree on the quarterbacks. I think we take one definite QB (he is already committed). Then we take a second QB such as Plumlee who will start off as a QB, but has the potential to change positions if it doesn't work out. I think they want the second QB to have the potential to move positions.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Agree.
Turnage, Dean and Emery are the X factors with the numbers.

I think Turnage is the most likely of those 3 but they have a great feel for any of them.

[Cooterpoot]

We aren’t getting Plumlee IMO. A lot would have to change.

[BuckyIsAB****]

People really dont understand how loaded this class is in state for 2019.

[bulldawg28]

Plumlee was the 2nd QB I was including & I think they'll end up getting 6 good OL & they won't turn down a good OL 1 over their desired # if they can get it.

Plumlee looks like the real deal. More athletic Baker Mayfield play making ability. If we get him I wouldn't be surprised if he won the starting job over the SC kid.

[preachermatt83]

Plumlee looks like the real deal. More athletic Baker Mayfield play making ability. If we get him I wouldn't be surprised if he won the starting job over the SC kid.

I think you are underestimating how good Schrader is. The kid is amazing.

[Ari Gold]

WR Big Board.. ( no particular order)

Quniton Torbor (committ)
Kenndrell Scurry
Jashon Watkins
Kyziah Pruitt
Dannis Jackson
Jonathan Mingo
Jordon Jernigan

I think we take 3 ( 4 if its the right guys)

Quinton Torbor
Kendrell Scury ( we are in his final 3 )
Kyziah Pruitt. ( but he better get in the boat soon)
Thats the 3 I see us getting as of today .

I like Watkins and if he was to pull trigger that might take Kyziah spot
I think Mingo ends up on Oxford
Jernigan ( ole miss commit) would flip if pushed
Jackson has shown very little interest , hearing he and mom might be visiting next week or so. Thats a step.
And again I still think JRP could end up at WR / slot guy . He is that good of an athlete

[Ari Gold]

Plumlee looks like the real deal. More athletic Baker Mayfield play making ability. If we get him I wouldn't be surprised if he won the starting job over the SC kid.

Im not saying the kid isnt a good QB . But everyone remember the name Dylan Farave ?
If he wants to PLAY QB at the next level I dont see him PLAYING at a P5 .
I think he can play , contribute and be a player at DB or like I said maybe even WR. He is a helluva athlete no doubt .

I hope Im wrong and he comes here and is an All Sec QB before he leaves.

[msu15]

Im not saying the kid isnt a good QB . But everyone remember the name Dylan Farave ?


I enrolled at State same time Dylan did, sophomore year had multiple classes with him and he was never there from the first day on, gave a nice little prelude to when his MSU tenure was ending lol.

[Bully13]

WR Big Board.. ( no particular order)

Quniton Torbor (committ)
Kenndrell Scurry
Jashon Watkins
Kyziah Pruitt
Dannis Jackson
Jonathan Mingo
Jordon Jernigan

I think we take 3 ( 4 if its the right guys)

Quinton Torbor
Kendrell Scury ( we are in his final 3 )
Kyziah Pruitt. ( but he better get in the boat soon)
Thats the 3 I see us getting as of today .

I like Watkins and if he was to pull trigger that might take Kyziah spot
I think Mingo ends up on Oxford
Jernigan ( ole miss commit) would flip if pushed
Jackson has shown very little interest , hearing he and mom might be visiting next week or so. Thats a step.
And again I still think JRP could end up at WR / slot guy . He is that good of an athlete

Hey Ari, I noticed Brandon Turnage is not on your WR list. Are you still confident on him as an "athlete" ?

[Ari Gold]

Hey Ari, I noticed Brandon Turnage is not on your WR list. Are you still confident on him as an "athlete" ?

Well he isnt a WR .. he is on the DB board. And yeah still think he is a dawg come signing day

[Bully13]

Well he isnt a WR .. he is on the DB board. And yeah still think he is a dawg come signing day

ok, thanks, was just asking because on 247 they have him listed as a WR and on page 1 of this crootin' thread we have him listed as an "athlete".

[bulldawg28]

Im not saying the kid isnt a good QB . But everyone remember the name Dylan Farave ?
If he wants to PLAY QB at the next level I dont see him PLAYING at a P5 .
I think he can play , contribute and be a player at DB or like I said maybe even WR. He is a helluva athlete no doubt .

I hope Im wrong and he comes here and is an All Sec QB before he leaves.

Is he Dylan Favre height? It has him listed as 6'1. If he's shorter than that I totally agree with you.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

WR Big Board.. ( no particular order)

Quniton Torbor (committ)
Kenndrell Scurry
Jashon Watkins
Kyziah Pruitt
Dannis Jackson
Jonathan Mingo
Jordon Jernigan

I think we take 3 ( 4 if its the right guys)

Quinton Torbor
Kendrell Scury ( we are in his final 3 )
Kyziah Pruitt. ( but he better get in the boat soon)
Thats the 3 I see us getting as of today .

I like Watkins and if he was to pull trigger that might take Kyziah spot
I think Mingo ends up on Oxford
Jernigan ( ole miss commit) would flip if pushed
Jackson has shown very little interest , hearing he and mom might be visiting next week or so. Thats a step.
And again I still think JRP could end up at WR / slot guy . He is that good of an athlete

As long as Scurry checks out off the field I love our chances. Watkins is really liking MSU right now. He has talked about deciding before the season now he says he may wait until after his season. If he decides this summer I really like our chances. I don't know what's wrong with Kyziah but he better wake up soon or he'll be at USM.

[Irondawg]

I think the summer camps are going to be huge for the WR board. Getting them on campus and seeing work ethic and interaction with coaches. Figuring out who will have enough maturity to work hard to learn the craft is a huge deal at that position

[Ari Gold]

As long as Scurry checks out off the field I love our chances. Watkins is really liking MSU right now. He has talked about deciding before the season now he says he may wait until after his season. If he decides this summer I really like our chances. I don't know what's wrong with Kyziah but he better wake up soon or he'll be at USM.

Agree 100% with all of this
The home run trio are
Torbor, Watkins , Scurry
IMO

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Agree 100% with all of this
The home run trio are
Torbor, Watkins , Scurry
IMO

Maybe just maybe we can get in the Dannis sweepstakes after this weekend.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Im not saying the kid isnt a good QB . But everyone remember the name Dylan Farave ?
If he wants to PLAY QB at the next level I dont see him PLAYING at a P5 .
I think he can play , contribute and be a player at DB or like I said maybe even WR. He is a helluva athlete no doubt .

I hope Im wrong and he comes here and is an All Sec QB before he leaves.

He is wayyyyyyyyyyyy better than Dylan Favre ever was.

You gotta remember where Dylan Favre played in high school its a system and they play terribly weak competition. Run the score up to boost their kids stats. Same school that Myles Brennan went to and he was also garbage.

Plumlee poops on Dylan Favre.

[Bully13]

I still to this day wish the Dylan Favre deal had of worked out. More times than not, when the legit offers are not out there, there's a reason. But the PR media attention would have been great. Maybe Brett woulda moved to Old Waverly. Brett on the sidelines and shit with cameras rolling. I know, I know, but just saying.

[Covercorner2]

Agree 100% with all of this
The home run trio are
Torbor, Watkins , Scurry
IMO

I asked this on another board and didn't get an answer- are these guys just really underrated? None of them are ranked higher than 87 by 247. What is the deal?

[dawgman15]

Brett is an asshole, he would never had done that.

[SmokeyDawg]

I asked this on another board and didn't get an answer- are these guys just really underrated? None of them are ranked higher than 87 by 247. What is the deal?

Watkins is an 89 composite, Torbor was a 4*. A lot of different variables to go through but you recruit the tools that you need and obviously they have some good tools by looking at their offer sheet. Ratings go up and down but the prospect is the same, don't always rely on ratings

[BuckyIsAB****]

Ari by on the ''big board'' are the kids rated in order of how hard we are recruiting them? or are you just listing who are recruiting hard at the position?

[Ari Gold]

Ari by on the ''big board'' are the kids rated in order of how hard we are recruiting them? or are you just listing who are recruiting hard at the position?

I usually say in no particular order.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I usually say in no particular order.

Got ya. Guess I must have missed it or Im dumb as shit.

Prolly little of both

[bulldawg28]

Got ya. Guess I must have missed it or Im dumb as shit.

Prolly little of both

Dumb ass



I kid bro

[iPat09]

Dumb ass

Smart bunny.

(Any other Far Side fans on here?)

[Bully13]

Smart bunny.

(Any other Far Side fans on here?)

HUGE Far Side fan. Didn't that guy quit though?

[Bully13]

Just going by my gut feelings I'm getting from our current commits, Ari's and IFYOK's comments, would I be overly wooly saying we have a chance at a top 15 crootin' class if things end up materializing the way they could? based on all the "warm" offers we currently have and the positive comments about these "warm" offers on the table?

[bulldawg28]

Smart bunny.

(Any other Far Side fans on here?)

Went over your head I see.

[msbulldog]

Jack Harris on commitment watch this weekend.

[msstate7]

IYOK and Ari, thanks for the good work here.

[KOdawg1]

Jaren Handy and Byron Young. I know we're in the game with both but what are things looking like with these two? This d-line class is DEEP so we'll get our fair share I imagine

[Cooterpoot]

Handy ain’t happening. Young either unless LSU passes on him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Handy ain’t happening. Young either unless LSU passes on him.

Don't expect nothing with Handy. Bama leads for Young but he's not planning on deciding until late. I'm not sure Bama or LSU will wait until the end for him.

[Commercecomet24]

Don't expect nothing with Handy. Bama leads for Young but he's not planning on deciding until late. I'm not sure Bama or LSU will wait until the end for him.

Don't give up on Byron. My son is good friends with him and we are still very much in the running. Very much.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Don't give up on Byron. My son is good friends with him and we are still very much in the running. Very much.

The longer it goes the better for MSU

[Commercecomet24]

The longer it goes the better for MSU

Correct.

[GreenheadDawg]

Don't expect nothing with Handy. Bama leads for Young but he's not planning on deciding until late. I'm not sure Bama or LSU will wait until the end for him.

Which way is Handy leaning? LSU?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Which way is Handy leaning? LSU?

Depends on where he visited last.

[tcdog70]

WR Big Board.. ( no particular order)

Quniton Torbor (committ)
Kenndrell Scurry
Jashon Watkins
Kyziah Pruitt
Dannis Jackson
Jonathan Mingo
Jordon Jernigan

I think we take 3 ( 4 if its the right guys)

Quinton Torbor
Kendrell Scury ( we are in his final 3 )
Kyziah Pruitt. ( but he better get in the boat soon)
Thats the 3 I see us getting as of today .

I like Watkins and if he was to pull trigger that might take Kyziah spot
I think Mingo ends up on Oxford
Jernigan ( ole miss commit) would flip if pushed
Jackson has shown very little interest , hearing he and mom might be visiting next week or so. Thats a step.
And again I still think JRP could end up at WR / slot guy . He is that good of an athlete

we better hope we get K Pruitt. He is a football big time player. You can have Heath, I'll take Pruitt. please MSU don't screw this up. And when Eads gets through with Scooba -we better sign Him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

we better hope we get K Pruitt. He is a football big time player. You can have Heath, I'll take Pruitt. please MSU don't screw this up. And when Eads gets through with Scooba -we better sign Him.

Pruitt gonna screw this up not MSU. We've been waiting on Pruitt for months we won't wait forever. He says he wants to be at MSU & MSU leads but he hasn't committed. If he's not committed by the end of the summer I think he gets left out. This is coming from someone who loves Kyziah but he's not Jeffrey Simmons he can't wait forever.

[Homedawg]

we better hope we get K Pruitt. He is a football big time player. You can have Heath, I'll take Pruitt. please MSU don't screw this up. And when Eads gets through with Scooba -we better sign Him.

He needs to stop screwing around then. Won’t be our screw up it will be his. At some point we gotta move on. He’s good but he’s not Randy Moss either. And we have been fairly patient. But it will run out before December I assure you.

[tcdog70]

He needs to stop screwing around then. Won’t be our screw up it will be his. At some point we gotta move on. He’s good but he’s not Randy Moss either. And we have been fairly patient. But it will run out before December I assure you.

we've never had a Randy Moss--how do you know how good He is, have you seen Him Play? Noxubee doesn't -play chumps. He put up his numbers as a Junior against on of the toughest schedules in Miss. plus he wasn't the only big player on the team. 5 Tds in a playoff game -did Randy do that as a Junior--maybe?

[Cooterpoot]

Comparing Pruitt to Randy Moss is a freaking joke. He's not even the best WR in MS. Great athlete though. And we aren't screwing up anything, he is....

[Bully13]

Don't give up on Byron. My son is good friends with him and we are still very much in the running. Very much.

Good to hear Commerce. I like Byron's mug shot on 247. I like to see these young guys smile and look like their enjoying life and stuff. I know you can't judge a book by it's cover but he just looks like a good guy. And DAMN he's big.

I'll never forget when I was bragging to my black buddy / co-worker on our 2012 class and he was going thru it and saw Quay Evans' pic. He looked at me and said "y'all need to worry about this dude". I laughed my ass off. I can't find the pic that he was looking at but Quay looked like total shit. The one on 247 you see ain't that bad. But the one my buddy was looking at that day I think was from a MSU website or something. I would love to see that pic of Quay again. Would bring back a LOL moment.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Pruitt will be a good slot WR in college. Jameon Lewis type.

The offense he plays in at Noxubee doesnt really help him either. He does need to get in the boat bc I dont see a lot of big other P5 offers coming bc of his size.

He's enjoying the process though I imagine. Let him be a kid. He will be a dawg. We do well with Noxubee kids

[FlytheW3]

Maybe off topic but who is the kid from Mississippi that ran a 4.1/4.2 at a camp this last weekend? I saw his last name was Harrison but that's about it.

[bulldawg28]

we've never had a Randy Moss--how do you know how good He is, have you seen Him Play? Noxubee doesn't -play chumps. He put up his numbers as a Junior against on of the toughest schedules in Miss. plus he wasn't the only big player on the team. 5 Tds in a playoff game -did Randy do that as a Junior--maybe?

Is he 6'5 4.2?

[Bully13]

Was it Hargrove JWS said couldn't get caught in a phone booth? that was funny shit but I sure as shit got tired of hearing said shit.

[Walkerhill]

Was it Hargrove JWS said couldn't get caught in a phone booth? that was funny shit but I sure as shit got tired of hearing said shit.
Ray Ray Bivens I thought.

Along with Omarr Connor Bivens is the athlete I most wonder how they would have done in a modern spread offense.

[Ari Gold]

Reguarding the WR situation and spots
I don’t think we take 4 unless we miss on some other guys at other sports
Saying that Pruitt needs to go ahead and get on board. I think its first 3 in get the spots.
And if that’s Torbor, Scurry, and Watkins then I’m 100% fine with that

[tcdog70]

Is he 6'5 4.2?

he is up to 6'1" bout 200 lbs-4.34---why would you pick Moss who has nothing to do with MSU. have you seen Him play?--take a look

http://www.hudl.com/profile/6574924/Kyziah-Pruitt. go toyoutube.

[tcdog70]

Comparing Pruitt to Randy Moss is a freaking joke. He's not even the best WR in MS. Great athlete though. And we aren't screwing up anything, he is....

comparing any one to Moss is a joke. Why is Moss in the conversation? I'm comparing Him to other WRs in Ms. --Noxubee doesn't play the Little Sisters of the Poor.--they play against the best. he has lit up the best.

[msu15]

Ray Ray Bivens I thought.

Along with Omarr Connor Bivens is the athlete I most wonder how they would have done in a modern spread offense.

Omarr and Jerious in a modern offense...man

[Ifyouonlyknew]

comparing any one to Moss is a joke. Why is Moss in the conversation? I'm comparing Him to other WRs in Ms. --Noxubee doesn't play the Little Sisters of the Poor.--they play against the best. he has lit up the best.

I like Kyziah a whole lot but waiting does seem to make any sense. By all accounts he wants to be at MSU & likes MSU. He doesn't have any other P5 offers so why wait? Does he plan to go to other schools to try to earn offers this summer? If so there's nothing wrong with that just know that the MSU coaches won't keep his spot forever. He has time but just know that time is running out.

[tcdog70]

Omarr and Jerious in a modern offense...man

Omarr, told me that when He dropped back there was never anyone open. and then pressure was on him.

[Uncle Ruckus]

he is up to 6'1" bout 200 lbs-4.34---why would you pick Moss who has nothing to do with MSU. have you seen Him play?--take a look

http://www.hudl.com/profile/6574924/Kyziah-Pruitt. go toyoutube.
It’s amazing how 75% of high school recruits run sub 4.5, and about half claim 4.3, then they get to college and somehow get slower. Amazing I tell ya.

[msu15]

Omarr, told me that when He dropped back there was never anyone open. and then pressure was on him.

Hell he wasn't lying. Only decent receiver we had that I can remember when Omarr was the QB was Tony Burks.

[Johnson85]

Omarr, told me that when He dropped back there was never anyone open. and then pressure was on him.

I think Will prosser might have been the leading receiver one year when Omar was QB and had like under 400 yards for the season. Never like to pile on players like Henig and Prosser because they did what they were asked and were the best option we had, and if that's not good enough, that's not their fault. But I'm not sure Peyton Manning in the prime of his NFL career could have done a lot in the SEC with Prosser as the best wider receiver on the team. Even if somebody came in and "threw the receiver open", I'm not sure our WRs could have semi-consistently caught balls with pressure on them.

[Ari Gold]

Coach Huff and this staff doing work...
oh what a weekend it may be

[VandelayIndustries]

Coach Huff and this staff doing work...
oh what a weekend it may be

Feeling wooly

[Lord McBuckethead]

This thread is 60 pages long, and really nothing has happened in the past month. Ready for recruiting to pick back up again.

[Doggie_Style]

This thread is 60 pages long, and really nothing has happened in the past month. Ready for recruiting to pick back up again.

yea I think our last commit was middle of April...over 6 weeks ago. What should we expect over the next 7 days? 3-4 commitments?

[tcdog70]

It’s amazing how 75% of high school recruits run sub 4.5, and about half claim 4.3, then they get to college and somehow get slower. Amazing I tell ya.

hudl is listing his 40 time as 4.34. how much difference do you think it is in 4.5 and 4.3----i doubt you could tell the difference on the field. i think Pruitt has been clocked several times.

[thf24]

hudl is listing his 40 time as 4.34. how much difference do you think it is in 4.5 and 4.3----i doubt you could tell the difference on the field. i think Pruitt has been clocked several times.

It's common knowledge that the vast majority of players pick up two or three tenths (or more - looking at you Bear Wilson) between high school and the higher levels, because the clocking equipment gets more precise and high school coaches and camps are trying to sell their players. I'm not saying Pruitt's isn't accurate, but there are VERY few true sub-4.4 guys nationwide. And while you're right that you probably can't tell with the naked eye, there is a world of difference between a 4.3 athlete and a 4.5 athlete.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Kyziah is quick but he's not a 4.3 guy. Probably a 4.5-4.6 guy he's more quick than fast.

[BrunswickDawg]

I think Will prosser might have been the leading receiver one year when Omar was QB and had like under 400 yards for the season. Never like to pile on players like Henig and Prosser because they did what they were asked and were the best option we had, and if that's not good enough, that's not their fault. But I'm not sure Peyton Manning in the prime of his NFL career could have done a lot in the SEC with Prosser as the best wider receiver on the team. Even if somebody came in and "threw the receiver open", I'm not sure our WRs could have semi-consistently caught balls with pressure on them.

Prosser led us in receiving yards twice - '04 with 328 yards, and '05 with a jaw dropping 286 yards. That offense makes me nauseous thinking about it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Hell he wasn't lying. Only decent receiver we had that I can remember when Omarr was the QB was Tony Burks.

Tony Burks was after Omarr I thought

[Turfdawg67]

And the recruiting thread bogs down again...

[Commercecomet24]

It’s amazing how 75% of high school recruits run sub 4.5, and about half claim 4.3, then they get to college and somehow get slower. Amazing I tell ya.

Absolutely amazing. Every skill player signed by every school is 4.4 or better. It's always good to add .2 to every one of those times reported and reduce players by 1-2 inches in height lol

[somebodyshotmypaw]

One problem with Prosser is that he really was the best we had. I remember going to practice several times watching Prosser and Antonio Hargro. Hargro wasn't even close to the receiver Prosser was. It was light years difference and you could clearly see it. And Prosser wasn't that good. That was some sad passing games at times.

[Hambone]

Stay focused

[bulldawg28]

One problem with Prosser is that he really was the best we had. I remember going to practice several times watching Prosser and Antonio Hargro. Hargro wasn't even close to the receiver Prosser was. It was light years difference and you could clearly see it. And Prosser wasn't that good. That was some sad passing games at times.

You were blind. Hargro was 10x's better than Will Prosser. Prosser was more consistent catching 10 yard routes. The two were two different playing styles. One was a possession guy and the other a blazer downfield threat.

Anyways, back to the recruiting thread.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

You were blind. Hargro was 10x's better than Will Prosser. Prosser was more consistent catching 10 yard routes. The two were two different playing styles. One was a possession guy and the other a blazer downfield threat.

Anyways, back to the recruiting thread.

Hargro was a much better athlete. Prosser was a far better player. Hargro caught 9 passes in his career. Prosser caught 64. In practice it was clear. Crystal clear.

[1bigdawg]

Anyways, back to the recruiting thread.

PLEASE

[tcdog70]

Kyziah is quick but he's not a 4.3 guy. Probably a 4.5-4.6 guy he's more quick than fast.

so why did Hudl-post 4.34? A Coach told me 4.4--although 4.5 is fast if it is football 4.5. Jerry Rice ran a 4.6. Also Vic ballard ran a 4.5-4.6 but nobody ever caught Him, where as Hollaway ran a 4.3 but was caught several times.

[Irondawg]

There's just a difference in top end speed (breakaway speed) and first 5-10 yard speed (burst/separation speed)

Also a big difference when you put pads on for some guys

[Bothrops]

Also a big difference when you put pads on for some guys

Like Holloway.

[Ari Gold]

Like I said few days ago...
Huge weekend .
To quote my guy Baba Ganoush “let’s keep our eye on the prize, let’s focus, and let’s close some ass”

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looking for 1 maybe 2 commits this weekend.

[ShotgunDawg]

Looking for 1 maybe 2 commits this weekend.

Harris and......?

[Hambone]

Pruitt. Hey if you say it enough you’re bound to get it right at some point.

[Todd4State]

so why did Hudl-post 4.34? A Coach told me 4.4--although 4.5 is fast if it is football 4.5. Jerry Rice ran a 4.6. Also Vic ballard ran a 4.5-4.6 but nobody ever caught Him, where as Hollaway ran a 4.3 but was caught several times.

It's more like someone touched Holloway and he flew backwards about 3-5 yards. The guy was a good player but he is NOT an in between the tackles running back and anyone that is a SEC football coach and thought that he was should have their head examined.

[TALL DAWG]

Hargro was a much better athlete. Prosser was a far better player. Hargro caught 9 passes in his career. Prosser caught 64. In practice it was clear. Crystal clear.

Thats gold right here! Sums it up to a T.

Just because someone is a better athlete does not mean they?ll
be a good colllege player.
9 catches total in his career at MSU....well...ok then.

[Ari Gold]

Can we move the Hargro and Prosser Debate to their own who gives a **** thread.
Thanks

[Okrastar1]

Can we move the Hargro and Prosser Debate to their own who gives a **** thread.
Thanks

On that dark day the skies parted, and all God’s people said AMEN Ari!!!!!!!!

[vv83]

Jarrian Jones and Jack Harris commit

[Bulldog1]

HUGE day for JoMo and Co.! 2 more got in the yeti!

[Ari Gold]

I told everyone it was a good weekend brewing... oh but there is one more I am waiting and wanting to hear.

[BuckyIsAB****]

told yall JDub would be a Dawg. damn good one too

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I told everyone it was a good weekend brewing... oh but there is one more I am waiting and wanting to hear.

Pruitt? That's the safe guess

[Hambone]

I’m going with Emery.

[bostondawg]

I’m going with Emery.

That would be unbelievable. So I'm gonna guess it isn't this. Lol.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looking for 1 maybe 2 commits this weekend.

2 it was

[ejdallas322]

I told everyone it was a good weekend brewing... oh but there is one more I am waiting and wanting to hear.

Please tell us who.

[maroonmania]

2 it was

So you think we are done for the weekend?

Oh, and its good that you can still keep up with MSU recruiting so closely even from Gainesville.***

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So you think we are done for the weekend?

Oh, and its good that you can still keep up with MSU recruiting so closely even from Gainesville.***

I'm not calling a 3rd but anything could happen

[Irondawg]

So what’s the thoughts on the new offers we extended today to some guys who thus far appear to have flown under the radar.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

So what’s the thoughts on the new offers we extended today to some guys who thus far appear to have flown under the radar.

Very few people will say "The guys we just offered suck"

[KOdawg1]

Pruitt needs to get his tail in the boat before he gets left. He's talented but replaceable.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So what’s the thoughts on the new offers we extended today to some guys who thus far appear to have flown under the radar.

I think the CB Tacorey Turner kid couldn't commit now but the slot WR Ja'varrius Johnson could be the next man up at slot if Kyziah waits much longer. Kid can fly & he really impressed the coaches today.

[BrunswickDawg]

Moorhead just rang the bell again. Who’d we get?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Moorhead just rang the bell again. Who’d we get?

Out of state kid

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Darius Washington OL from Pensacola commits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Darius-Washington-46051138

[sandwolf]

Darius Washington OL from Pensacola commits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Darius-Washington-46051138

Damn, that one is huge. Did we have an in with this guy? Really impressive work by Moorhead and the staff.

[Hambone]

You mean we only beat out Louisville, Miami, Nebraska and Ole Miss for this kid..... ***

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You mean we only beat out Louisville, Miami, Nebraska and Ole Miss for this kid..... ***

Add A&M, Maryland, Pitt, & Illinois as well.

[Cooterpoot]

Hev was the Gary Henderson of OL recruiting.

[Hambone]

Did we just ANOTHER commit or is my twitter feed jacking up? I could have sworn Marcus Johnson just said another one right before midnight!

[Irondawg]

I think the CB Tacorey Turner kid couldn't commit now but the slot WR Ja'varrius Johnson could be the next man up at slot if Kyziah waits much longer. Kid can fly & he really impressed the coaches today.

Thanks, I was wondering specifically if Turner was one that could commit now and if Johnson could supplant Pruitt. Johnson film looks good, but also a bit wary of the HS, as isn't that where the coach is that's a big ARK guy? Wonder if that offer was meant to put a little pressure on Pruitt to not wait much longer if he wants in.

[Irondawg]

If we can keep this OL class until signing day and just hit on one of our remaining top targets I'll be ecstatic. Really nice job by Johnson thusfar

[Todd4State]

Hev was the Gary Henderson of OL recruiting.

Gary Henderson can recruit circles around Hevesy.

[BrunswickDawg]

Darius Washington OL from Pensacola commits.

https://247sports.com/Player/Darius-Washington-46051138
Does this mean we can stop worrying about our OL 3 years from now (because Joe knows roster management) or should we still be melting about it?? Asking for a friend.

[Cooterpoot]

Gary Henderson can recruit circles around Hevesy.

I meant mismanagement of OL recruiting. Ie. the pitching staff. But yeah, my dog could out recruit Hev.

[Bully13]

You mean we only beat out Louisville, Miami, Nebraska and Ole Miss for this kid..... ***

I'm not used to beating out teams like that for OL croots. I had grown accustomed to seeing 2nd and 3rd string OL on these types of teams knowing full and damned well they'd be starters for us. The times they are a changing.