2019 Recruiting Thread

[Todd4State]

You would think that potential recruits could finally see through the smoke on how Om operates on these types of situations. Especially after Tom Mars got involved in player transfers.

It does amaze me- but then again people fall for scams all the time.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Who do yall think are the next 3-4 commits? I say Derick Hall, Charles Cross, Kevon Glenn and Dawand Jones in that order.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who do yall think are the next 3-4 commits? I say Derick Hall, Charles Cross, Kevon Glenn and Dawand Jones in that order.

Kevon Glenn hasn't been to MSU since early summer I doubt he's in this class. Dawand Jones has picked up Michigan, Ohio St, & FSU Offers in the past week. Going to be a very difficult pull.

[hacker]

Who do yall think are the next 3-4 commits? I say Derick Hall, Charles Cross, Kevon Glenn and Dawand Jones in that order.

You think Dawand Jones picks us over his recent offers from Ohio State and Michigan?

[Doggie_Style]

Who do yall think are the next 3-4 commits? I say Derick Hall, Charles Cross, Kevon Glenn and Dawand Jones in that order.

Pendley, Cross, Hall...not sure beyond that. What ever happened to Witherspoon?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Kevon Glenn hasn't been to MSU since early summer I doubt he's in this class. Dawand Jones has picked up Michigan, Ohio St, & FSU Offers in the past week. Going to be a very difficult pull.

Obv I'm not an insider...haha.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

I think Witherspoon is holding out hope for a Bama or Auburn offer before he tells us yes.

[msbulldog]

Tn and Um working Witherspoon pretty hard.

[msstate7]

Tn and Um working Witherspoon pretty hard.

Thought tenn wasn't offering.

[Doggie_Style]

Tn and Um working Witherspoon pretty hard.

He visited Tn and did not get an offer. TN and OM are working Gray hard if that's who you mean. Witherspoon's season ended in the second round of their playoffs and he did not have a good night. I'm wondering if we are still that interested considering we are getting Walker. We have precious few spots left so if his offer is commitable he should take it asap.

[Hambone]

Are the “smoke signals” around Nakobe Dean legit or is it people just having fun?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Are the ?smoke signals? around Nakobe Dean legit or is it people just having fun?

Don't fall for it. Especially with OM people saying it.

[Cooterpoot]

He visited Tn and did not get an offer. TN and OM are working Gray hard if that's who you mean. Witherspoon's season ended in the second round of their playoffs and he did not have a good night. I'm wondering if we are still that interested considering we are getting Walker. We have precious few spots left so if his offer is commitable he should take it asap.

He got hurt in that game. Yes, we're still recruiting him and he's a priority.

[Cooterpoot]

Are the “smoke signals” around Nakobe Dean legit or is it people just having fun?

Dean has been to campus twice in the last year I think. He ain't interested.

[Hambone]

It’s State people. Not saying he’s coming, but that communication lines have vastly opened up between the two.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It?s State people. Not saying he?s coming, but that communication lines have vastly opened up between the two.

I don't know many/any MSU folks who think we have a shot at Nakobe. Maybe I'm just of that loop. I hope I am.

[Commercecomet24]

If we got Dean it would be a miracle. Now miracles sometimes happen but I'm not counting on this one.

[ShotgunDawg]

A quick thought about this recruiting class:

The SEC is a line of scrimmage league & we are cleaning up on the line of scrimmage.

Here is the potential class:

OL:
Cross - 4
Cunningham - 4
Washington - High 3
Sharp - High 3
Pendley - Solid 3
Jones - upside 3

DL
Pickering - high 4
Moore - high 4
Russell - 4
Ani - 3/4

The only line of scrimmage player in state that we are going to miss on is Young. Would love to have Turnage, Mingo, Dean, & Dannis Jackson, but they simply don't play the most important positions in the SEC.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

It?s State people. Not saying he?s coming, but that communication lines have vastly opened up between the two.

No they haven't. What "State people" said this? Just curious

[Hambone]

John, David and Jessie said so. Unlike other peeps, I will provide names. However, will not give last names.

[Ari Gold]

Here is what I know with ND
I said it back in the spring we had as good of a shot getting him as OM did. That was probably going out on a limb but was told that.
ND is a different cat.
ND’s mother doesn’t play the bullshit recruiting games .. Fact
Saban rubbed the mom the wrong way ( I know that for a fact) and you saw how they faded over the summer . That being said it is Bama and recruiting so if he signed there it wouldn’t be shocking

I wasn’t told anything on his dad who lives in Fla but you see and read OM has him involved

In the end I doubt we get the kid, but I will be shocked if he goes to OM. Maybe it turns out he has to do what’s best for business. And like in the past with some players that’s where he ends up. The brother has very little influence on his decision. It does help I’m sure that he is at OM but it doesnt tip the scale

In the end I think it’s to an out of state school and my guess still is Georgia.

Saying all of that ....... if there was a NFL style draft and we had first pick of an instate kid We take Pickering #1 overall

[hacker]

Getting a 2019 commit today?

[hacker]

Witherspoon?

[SouthMSDog]

Witherspoon?

That is my guess. Or Bedford.

[HaggardDawg]

Regarding Mingo, I'd love to have him but watching him this year he just doesn't dominate like a guy of that caliber should in my opinion. Heard a college coach say he's actually better suited as a linebacker.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Regarding Mingo, I'd love to have him but watching him this year he just doesn't dominate like a guy of that caliber should in my opinion. Heard a college coach say he's actually better suited as a linebacker.

I believe if Mingo wanted to come here, he would be better suited to play whatever he wanted to play. My money would be on WR.

[Doggie_Style]

I believe if Mingo wanted to come here, he would be better suited to play whatever he wanted to play. My money would be on WR.

Mingo has drunk the bearshark cool-aid....he ain't comin to State. I'd like to get Raydarius Jones and make him a WR.

[Dawgfan77]

Witherspoon?
Cross or Pendley

[ShotgunDawg]

Cross or Pendley

Out of state guy. No Siptostate in the tweet

[Dawgfan77]

Out of state guy. No Siptostate in the tweet

Pendley is an oos guy

[Madisonmd]

was at Horn Lake Friday, talked with man claiming to be ND's travel baseball coach. He says GA is done deal, fwiw. Says he is great kid that wants to be a MD one day (btw, dad is MD outside Orlando). MSU remains outside contender but made up some ground. Great HS player but hard to envision him as top inside backer in country. Raydarius Jones is intriguing athlete, can fly! ND just is not big enough for LB in SEC, imo

[Lord McBuckethead]

Mingo has drunk the bearshark cool-aid....he ain't comin to State. I'd like to get Raydarius Jones and make him a WR.

I also would like to get Raydarius Jones. That guy is greased lightning.

[Madisonmd]

I also would like to get Raydarius Jones. That guy is greased lightning.

Jones is a game changer with his speed!

[ShotgunDawg]

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[Cooterpoot]

Jones is a game changer with his speed!

Go watch them play OG this week. You'll see what real game changing speed is with Plumlee.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Go watch them play OG this week. You'll see what real game changing speed is with Plumlee.

Plumlee can fly Jones is clearly faster.

[Cooterpoot]

Plumlee can fly Jones is clearly faster.

Plumlee is the fastest football player in MS. He'll be returning kicks, playing QB, and probably some defense too. It's crazy how fast he is.
Hopefully we see some of that kind of speed from Witherspoon now that he's committed.

[RezDog7]

Witherspoon committed

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Plumlee is the fastest football player in MS. He'll be returning kicks, playing QB, and probably some defense too. It's crazy how fast he is.
Hopefully we see some of that kind of speed from Witherspoon now that he's committed.

They've ran on the same field getting their 40's this spring at the Atlanta Nike Opening Regional. Raydarius ran a laser 4.45 Plumlee ran a 4.61. Again Plumlee can blaze he's not near as fast as Raydarius. Watching Raydarius run in the open field you realize how fast that kid is.

[Irondawg]

I've thought for a while that Raydarius is one of the overlooked guys in this class. Nobody talks about him much but he's always looked like a good prospect to me

[NCDawg]

Witherspoon committed

Good. Now we've got plenty of skilled athletes. Let's get some big offensive linemen to open holes for these good players to win football games.

[Cooterpoot]

They've ran on the same field getting their 40's this spring at the Atlanta Nike Opening Regional. Raydarius ran a laser 4.45 Plumlee ran a 4.61. Again Plumlee can blaze he's not near as fast as Raydarius. Watching Raydarius run in the open field you realize how fast that kid is.

I've seen Plumlee run in the low 4.4s.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I've seen Plumlee run in the low 4.4s.

Maybe he had tired legs or something but that day he was the clear #2. I've heard of Raydarius running in the 4.3's at several college camps but only used the Opening Bc they have the laser time equipment.

[Cooterpoot]

Maybe he had tired legs or something but that day he was the clear #2. I've heard of Raydarius running in the 4.3's at several college camps but only used the Opening Bc they have the laser time equipment.

No telling. I've had some kids working out down there with a couple speed trainers and had the chance to watch him run. Haven't seen Jones run but I know he's long (like a sprinter). Now, some people will tell you Plumlee runs in the 4.3s but that's just not real IMO.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No telling. I've had some kids working out down there with a couple speed trainers and had the chance to watch him run. Haven't seen Jones run but I know he's long (like a sprinter). Now, some people will tell you Plumlee runs in the 4.3s but that's just not real IMO.

Yea Raydarius does have that sprinter stride. They both can chew up a lot of ground on the field. Witherspoon can as well now it's about teaching him the nuances of playing RB.

[Commercecomet24]

We need Raydarius. I've known Plumlee since he was 8. Great kid, hard worker and can fly. I do believe Raydarius is a touch faster.

[Homedawg]

They've ran on the same field getting their 40's this spring at the Atlanta Nike Opening Regional. Raydarius ran a laser 4.45 Plumlee ran a 4.61. Again Plumlee can blaze he's not near as fast as Raydarius. Watching Raydarius run in the open field you realize how fast that kid is.

I hate it when facts get in the way of a good disagreement.

[Cooterpoot]

I hate it when facts get in the way of a good disagreement.

No disagreement. I defer to IYOK. He's seen both. I've only seen one.

[HoopsDawg]

Maybe he had tired legs or something but that day he was the clear #2. I've heard of Raydarius running in the 4.3's at several college camps but only used the Opening Bc they have the laser time equipment.

You like Ray as a WR? Why aren't we all over this guy with our need for speed at wide out.

[msbulldog]

You like Ray as a WR? Why aren't we all over this guy with our need for speed at wide out.

And since he is best friends with Nakobe, why aren't we all over him?

[Madisonmd]

And since he is best friends with Nakobe, why aren't we all over him?

Raydarius beat us Friday with his speed

[Commercecomet24]

You like Ray as a WR? Why aren't we all over this guy with our need for speed at wide out.

We are.

[KOdawg1]

We are.
As a WR or DB?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You like Ray as a WR? Why aren't we all over this guy with our need for speed at wide out.

I actually like him more as a CB. We are on him very hard.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

And since he is best friends with Nakobe, why aren't we all over him?

The best friend talk is overblown. They have no impact on each other's recruitment. If they end up at the same school it will be simply by chance.

[1bigdawg]

Any projections on Ray?

[Commercecomet24]

As a WR or DB?

I think he could play either very well, but I believe he will wind up at corner.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Regarding Mingo, I'd love to have him but watching him this year he just doesn't dominate like a guy of that caliber should in my opinion. Heard a college coach say he's actually better suited as a linebacker.

Hahahahahahahahaha

[BuckyIsAB****]

Some of yall are way off on Mingo. Trust me.

If we get KB it greatly helps out chances with him but we very well could get him regardless. Longo is hurting OM more than helping them with Mingo. He is an extremely competitive kid and he wants to win. Yes he wants to be drafted and they can sell him that and they are, but we are very much in the game.

Let it play out. We talked to him today FWIW to you

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Some of yall are way off on Mingo. Trust me.

If we get KB it greatly helps out chances with him but we very well could get him regardless. Longo is hurting OM more than helping them with Mingo. He is an extremely competitive kid and he wants to win. Yes he wants to be drafted and they can sell him that and they are, but we are very much in the game.

Let it play out. We talked to him today FWIW to you

Why would it help by getting KB? Would Mingo be expected to play a lot in year one, his only year with KB.

[HoopsDawg]

I actually like him more as a CB. We are on him very hard.

Who's left on our board? If we have less than a 25% chance, please don't list them.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who's left on our board? If we have less than a 25% chance, please don't list them.

Cross
Pendley
Bedford
Griffin
Mingo
Hall
Jones
Juco DT (no names yet)

That's off the top of my head I'm sure I missed someone

[HoopsDawg]

Cross
Pendley
Bedford
Griffin
Mingo
Hall
Jones
Juco DT (no names yet)

That's off the top of my head I'm sure I missed someone

Thx, and just 4 spots left, 5 at the most right?

[Ari Gold]

Thx, and just 4 spots left, 5 at the most right?

We will make room if all chips fall into place.
Couple of commits now would be asked to move on. IMO

[Pit Bull]

Raydarius beat us Friday with his speed

Agree and I contend we need more speed at many positions on the team. We have mostly 4.5 - 4.7 forty WRs and DBs and that's ok to compete with most teams. To get to BAMA's level, you have to have some elite speed in a few positions. Not all, but at least a few. Like sub 4.5......RB, WR, and DBs come to mind mostly. And if one or two of those could return kickoffs and punts to give us an occasional breakaway TD, it would be a big plus. The latest RB we have committed from Alabama has around 4.4 from what everyone tells me. That is good, and we could use several more like that.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

We will make room if all chips fall into place.
Couple of commits now would be asked to move on. IMO

Some chips will fall into place.

[Doggie_Style]

Cross
Pendley
Bedford
Griffin
Mingo
Hall
Jones
Juco DT (no names yet)

That's off the top of my head I'm sure I missed someone

Keonte Schad

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Keonte Schad

Yea but I don't know if he'll be the only name plus we haven't offered yet.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Why would it help by getting KB? Would Mingo be expected to play a lot in year one, his only year with KB.

Yes it would help and yes he would play a lot in year one. Probably start.

He wants to play with a QB that can get him the ball. Like I said he is an extremely outspoken competitive kid. But hes not begging for attention with his recruitment like others are.

[Cowbell]

Keonte Schad

Watching his 2018 highlight, 2 things stand out:

1)He is held a ridiculous amount & 2) Im curious how many flags he was responsible for this year as there were several late hits on QBs just in this highlight.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Yes it would help and yes he would play a lot in year one. Probably start.

He wants to play with a QB that can get him the ball. Like I said he is an extremely outspoken competitive kid. But hes not begging for attention with his recruitment like others are.

Wow Whop really got screwed then...

[Coach007]

Wow Whop really got screwed then...

Did he? How so?

[bulldawg28]

Agree and I contend we need more speed at many positions on the team. We have mostly 4.5 - 4.7 forty WRs and DBs and that's ok to compete with most teams. To get to BAMA's level, you have to have some elite speed in a few positions. Not all, but at least a few. Like sub 4.5......RB, WR, and DBs come to mind mostly. And if one or two of those could return kickoffs and punts to give us an occasional breakaway TD, it would be a big plus. The latest RB we have committed from Alabama has around 4.4 from what everyone tells me. That is good, and we could use several more like that.

We do not have a 4.7 WR or DB playing, well maybe Williams and McLaurin

[msu15]

Did he? How so?

Might be wrong, but I think he's saying that if Mingo would be ready to play and start next season then Whop definitely was ready to play and start this season due to his talent compared to Mingo's.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Might be wrong, but I think he's saying that if Mingo would be ready to play and start next season then Whop definitely was ready to play and start this season due to his talent compared to Mingo's.

Ding Ding^^

[Coach007]

Ding Ding^^

Son in other words, Mingo is not ready either.

[ShotgunDawg]

Might be wrong, but I think he's saying that if Mingo would be ready to play and start next season then Whop definitely was ready to play and start this season due to his talent compared to Mingo's.

I think this is way over generalizing.

You don't know the football IQ, intelligence, or polish of a player even if they have similar skill sets.

That being said, I think Mingo has a little lighter feet than Whop which should leade to slightly more advanced route running.

[Cooterpoot]

Every WR we sign should have the chance to get a look. We're that bad at WR (and thin). Doesn't mean they'll play, but if they can, they will.

[msudawglb]

Every WR we sign should have the chance to get a look. We're that bad at WR (and thin). Doesn't mean they'll play, but if they can, they will.

I don?t think any true freshman WR?s will start in this offense. It?s not just the QB who is supposed to be able to read the defenses in this scheme.

[timotheus]

Excellent point.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is Eric Gray back in play?

[msstate7]

Is Eric Gray back in play?

That would be awesome. Without any inside info though, I doubt it with us taking 2 RBs

[ShotgunDawg]

That would be awesome. Without any inside info though, I doubt it with us taking 2 RBs

Would think you'd make room in anyway possible.

[msstate7]

Would think you'd make room in anyway possible.

Absolutely you make room for gray.

[Ari Gold]

Gray has a spot ..

[sscjr1]

Gray has a spot ..

Do you cut Walker?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Do you cut Walker?

Without hesitation.

[Doggie_Style]

Is Eric Gray back in play?

What evidence suggests Gray has any interest in MSU? He has an official set up with OM but not us. Yea he would be a take but I don't see it happening.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

What evidence suggests Gray has any interest in MSU? He has an official set up with OM but not us. Yea he would be a take but I don't see it happening.

His name was brought up on 247 by mods

[msbulldog]

Rosebowl said something must have happened between Tenn. and Gray, appears he is calling around checking his options.

[Doggie_Style]

Thanks I see that now....he has visits to take we should definitely give it a shot....I'd drop Walker like a hot tater

[Coursesuper]

Rosebowl said something must have happened between Tenn. and Gray, appears he is calling around checking his options.

TN OC took the W KY job.

[Doggie_Style]

From Commercial Appeal two days ago:

"With his commitment to Michigan "hanging in the balance," Lausanne running back Eric Gray says he will visit two more SEC schools before signing day.

"More than likely it will be Ole Miss and Alabama, and if not Alabama it will be Ole Miss and Texas A&M," said Gray.

The 5-10, 195 pound senior is the No. 3 all-purpose back in the country and the No. 8 overall prospect in Tennessee according to the 247Sports composite rankings."

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Gray will end up at TN as long as TN new OC wants him & I expect whoever it is will want him.

[Ari Gold]

There is no need to drop Walker
Hill prob tests the NFL water after next year
Gibson will gone as well
2020
You have
Walker SR
Witherspoon will redshirt no matter what unless we are by a injury bug RSfrosh
And if you sign Gray a Soph at worse ( maybe he redshirts )

No need to drop Walker .
And yes more than likely Gray ends up a Vol

[MetEdDawg]

There is no need to drop Walker
Hill prob tests the NFL water after next year
Gibson will gone as well
2020
You have
Walker SR
Witherspoon will redshirt no matter what unless we are by a injury bug RSfrosh
And if you sign Gray a Soph at worse ( maybe he redshirts )

No need to drop Walker .
And yes more than likely Gray ends up a Vol

This post right here. Thank you. Lot of folks can't see the forest through the trees. If we got Gray, we still might lose 2 RBs after next year. Why would you drop Walker, especially given he's a JUCO?

[Doggie_Style]

How do you think Gray would feel about Freeze as his new OC?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

How do you think Gray would feel about Freeze as his new OC?

As long as the OC wants Gray I think he'll be at TN. He'd likely sell him on being a better Jeff Scott & Jaylon Walton.

[Leroy Jenkins]

If SaBear couldn't get St Hugh the Pious hired in the SEC no one will.... ever.


How do you think Gray would feel about Freeze as his new OC?

[Bothrops]

This post right here. Thank you. Lot of folks can't see the forest through the trees. If we got Gray, we still might lose 2 RBs after next year. Why would you drop Walker, especially given he's a JUCO?

Yeah that just hit me. We're likely down to two known RB's on roster after '19.

[HoopsDawg]

I know numbers are tight but damn Everett Cunningham looks like a player coming off the edge.

[NickoeWatersHedges]

Drummond Emcc WR picks up TSUN offer, we should offer IMO.

[msu15]

Drummond Emcc WR picks up TSUN offer, we should offer IMO.

Nice profile name!

[Scared_Hitless]

What is the deal with Drummond looks like a player on film, gotta be his speed I suppose looks like a possession guy?

[ShotgunDawg]

What is the deal with Drummond looks like a player on film, gotta be his speed I suppose looks like a possession guy?

It should be very clear at this point that Moorhead prioritizes speed.

If Drummond has a speed question, the I doubt we offer. Just isn't what he's looking for

[Scared_Hitless]

It should be very clear at this point that Moorhead prioritizes speed.

If Drummond has a speed question, the I doubt we offer. Just isn't what he's looking for

Yeah my thinking as well, not that I hate it kinda like the philosophy. As long as they have sure hands get all the speed you want. Really interested to watch how JoMo builds this team going forward. Just hope we keep our physicality while being explosive.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yeah my thinking as well, not that I hate it kinda like the philosophy. As long as they have sure hands get all the speed you want. Really interested to watch how JoMo builds this team going forward. Just hope we keep our physicality while being explosive.

I like the philosophy. It doesn't mean that Drummond won't end being a really good player, it's just clear what Jomo wants, particularly with guys that aren't obvious studs

[Johnson85]

If SaBear couldn't get St Hugh the Pious hired in the SEC no one will.... ever.

I doubt the SEC has an official rule allowing them to block it, and UT would absolutely be dumb/arrogant enough to ignore the "suggestions" and hire him anyway.

[Bully13]

Yeah my thinking as well, not that I hate it kinda like the philosophy. As long as they have sure hands get all the speed you want. Really interested to watch how JoMo builds this team going forward. Just hope we keep our physicality while being explosive.

Your username rocks

[Scared_Hitless]

Your username rocks

Thanks man

[Doggie_Style]

Keonte Schad

Looking very possible

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looking very possible

Would be a great pickup. Kid has some talent.

[hailmari]

Would be a great pickup. Kid has some talent.

I watched his video earlier.. He’s nasty. Let’s get him.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Keonte Shad, whats the word on him. I know nothing about him. OL?

[Lord McBuckethead]

DT Juco. Found him.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I know many keep saying "we will be fine" when discussing our DT's. But let's be honest, we lose Grant Harris, Tre Brown, Braxton Hoyett, and Cory Thomas. Redshirt freshman James Jackson moved to OL. Obviously Simmons will probably leave early for the NFL. So Lee Autry is the only returning player who has taken any snaps (other than the allowed 4 games to redshirt). So assuming we don't move a defensive end to the inside, it could be Lee Autry lining up next to a freshman such as Crumedy or Lovett. I think defensive line depth is so important in this league. I'm all for throwing a JUCO DT body into the mix.

[msstate7]

I know many keep saying "we will be fine" when discussing our DT's. But let's be honest, we lose Grant Harris, Tre Brown, Braxton Hoyett, and Cory Thomas. Redshirt freshman James Jackson moved to OL. Obviously Simmons will probably leave early for the NFL. So Lee Autry is the only returning player who has taken any snaps (other than the allowed 4 games to redshirt). So assuming we don't move a defensive end to the inside, it could be Lee Autry lining up next to a freshman such as Crumedy or Lovett. I think defensive line depth is so important in this league. I'm all for throwing a JUCO DT body into the mix.

Yep. I said this a while back

[Cooterpoot]

Spencer will play DT too.

[Coursesuper]

Spencer will play DT too.

I just don't see that, he's not built for that, he's a DE.

[Cooterpoot]

He’s 285/290 now.

[HoopsDawg]

I just don't see that, he's not built for that, he's a DE.

Huh? What would make you say that?

[Todd4State]

I know many keep saying "we will be fine" when discussing our DT's. But let's be honest, we lose Grant Harris, Tre Brown, Braxton Hoyett, and Cory Thomas. Redshirt freshman James Jackson moved to OL. Obviously Simmons will probably leave early for the NFL. So Lee Autry is the only returning player who has taken any snaps (other than the allowed 4 games to redshirt). So assuming we don't move a defensive end to the inside, it could be Lee Autry lining up next to a freshman such as Crumedy or Lovett. I think defensive line depth is so important in this league. I'm all for throwing a JUCO DT body into the mix.

We have talent at DT- but it's inexperienced. I agree about being all for getting a JUCO DT. I think Pickering and Moore could play some in the rotation as well like Chris Jones did as a freshman but we'll see how they look in camp.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

We have talent at DT- but it's inexperienced. I agree about being all for getting a JUCO DT. I think Pickering and Moore could play some in the rotation as well like Chris Jones did as a freshman but we'll see how they look in camp.

Experience is my concern. Unless you are a freak like Chris Jones or Jeffrey Simmons, this league will eat freshmen defensive linemen alive. I would like to see a JUCO signee. You can't have too many bodies.

Our defensive line was awesome this year. And it wasn't just because of talent. Depth played a huge role.

[Todd4State]

Experience is my concern. Unless you are a freak like Chris Jones or Jeffrey Simmons, this league will eat freshmen defensive linemen alive. I would like to see a JUCO signee. You can't have too many bodies.

Our defensive line was awesome this year. And it wasn't just because of talent. Depth played a huge role.

We've been spoiled by Fletcher Cox, Chris Jones, and Jeffrey Simmons all in a row basically. I can't see us rotating guys in and out like we did this year.

[Cooterpoot]

Pickering will come in and play. He's the next Cox, Jones, Simmons.

[ShotgunDawg]

Pickering will come in and play. He's the next Cox, Jones, Simmons.

Pick, Lovett, Moore, Crumedy, etc should be a damn solid DT group going forward.

We'll take a couple of steps back in 2019, but have a chance to be elite again in 2020 & 2021

I wouldn't be shocked to see us get a grad transfer on the DL.

Baker is earning a good reputation that may be worth a solid prospect spending a year with to see if they can up their draft stock

[Ari Gold]

Pick, Lovett, Moore, Crumedy, etc should be a damn solid DT group going forward.

We'll take a couple of steps back in 2019, but have a chance to be elite again in 2020 & 2021

I wouldn't be shocked to see us get a grad transfer on the DL.

Baker is earning a good reputation that may be worth a solid prospect spending a year with to see if they can up their draft stock

Agree with this except for the grad transfer , we will use the juco route to fill any needs or better yet go after a Sweat / Rivers talent if available

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Steve say in the Boneyard:
2019 OL Matt Bedford likely commits today. He's on campus.

Miami making a run at Emerson. He's visiting this weekend. "That's a little concerning" Steve says bc that's our CB's in the class.
Arky getting a visit from Greg Brooks. He could flip.

Keonte Schad was here this past weekend.

De'Monte Russell visiting Ole Miss - Steve ain't worried.

18-19 kids on campus this weekend looking to complete this class

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Emerson OV to MSU this weekend. He's scheduled to OV Miami the 15th.

Brooks has already OV to Arkansas he'll OV to MSU this weekend.

[Irondawg]

As we head into the homestretch before the early signing period who do we have to be worried about on flip watch? Are Emerson, Brooks and Russel the main ones we're a little concerned about or are there others?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

As we head into the homestretch before the early signing period who do we have to be worried about on flip watch? Are Emerson, Brooks and Russel the main ones we're a little concerned about or are there others?

I'm not too worried on Brooks. I'm not worried at all on Russell. I have some concern on Emerson.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Pick, Lovett, Moore, Crumedy, etc should be a damn solid DT group going forward.

We'll take a couple of steps back in 2019, but have a chance to be elite again in 2020 & 2021

I wouldn't be shocked to see us get a grad transfer on the DL.

Baker is earning a good reputation that may be worth a solid prospect spending a year with to see if they can up their draft stock

I love our DT talent. I just don't like relying on so much youth in this league. I would love to have an older body, like a JUCO to throw into the mix. But I agree that Moore, Pickering, Lovett, and Crumedy are worth being excited about.

[Irondawg]

So the news on D. Hall wasn't all that great today. I thought we were trending up with him - anybody have any idea what the deal is there?

[Bothrops]

You need to remember that some of our commits have absolute morons in their ears.

[Cooterpoot]

Not concerned with Hall and OM.

[Irondawg]

Oh I'm not concerned with Hall and OM either, I just can't take it as a good sign he's chosen to not take an official to MSU. His recruitment has always been a little odd as most have felt he's long favored Auburn. But he never pulled the trigger and there are some rumblings that he might not have a commitable offer from them yet. Like Dean he's been a hard guy to get a read on.

[Cooterpoot]

I'm going to keep my mouth shut for now on Hall. I have my opinions there but we'll see. Don't be surprised if you see a new name pop up for that spot though. And I don't mean we're dropping him.

[msstate7]

So where you guys think we end up finishing in rankings? There's 1 team ahead of us (OM) with a lower avg rating per player and 4 teams behind us with a higher avg rating per player (South Carolina, usc, Stanford, and Miami). We're currently at #20. 22nd to 25th?

[msbulldog]

I'm going to keep my mouth shut for now on Hall. I have my opinions there but we'll see. Don't be surprised if you see a new name pop up for that spot though. And I don't mean we're dropping him.

Wise man.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So where you guys think we end up finishing in rankings? There's 1 team ahead of us (OM) with a lower avg rating per player and 4 teams behind us with a higher avg rating per player (South Carolina, usc, Stanford, and Miami). We're currently at #20. 22nd to 25th?

17-22

[Doggie_Style]

So where you guys think we end up finishing in rankings? There's 1 team ahead of us (OM) with a lower avg rating per player and 4 teams behind us with a higher avg rating per player (South Carolina, usc, Stanford, and Miami). We're currently at #20. 22nd to 25th?

I think that is about right. Anybody besides me think that this whole Kelly Bryant thing helps or hurts our recruiting momentum depending on how it turns out?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

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[MetEdDawg]

I think between 20 and 25 would be a big win for Moorhead. The recruiting class that comes in the year after you get the job is the hardest to do well in. Those kids have built relationships for a couple years and it's hard to establish a new one, especially if you were on a staff that didn't originally recruit the kid.

A Top 25 ranking with this would be solid. For comparison, we finished 30th with Mullen's first full class.

[Pollodawg]

I think that is about right. Anybody besides me think that this whole Kelly Bryant thing helps or hurts our recruiting momentum depending on how it turns out?
I just don’t see a one and done player having that big of an impact on other guys pledging bare minimum three years here.

[msudawglb]

I just don’t see a one and done player having that big of an impact on other guys pledging bare minimum three years here.

You've got to look at the bigger picture. If KB chose MSU, then we would be looked at by the media as "the school" that the Clemson qb chose over Auburn. It would be talked about a good bit going into the season and during the first part of the season. No, it's not going to get us big time WR's but it does chip another piece away at the image of MSU being "poor old MSU".

[Cooterpoot]

I doubt anybody really talks much about where Bryant lands unless it's AU.

[Doggie_Style]

You've got to look at the bigger picture. If KB chose MSU, then we would be looked at by the media as "the school" that the Clemson qb chose over Auburn. It would be talked about a good bit going into the season and during the first part of the season. No, it's not going to get us big time WR's but it does chip another piece away at the image of MSU being "poor old MSU".

^^ this.....exactly

[msu15]

A Top 25 ranking with this would be solid. For comparison, we finished 30th with Mullen's first full class.

And that class turned out much worse than 30th. It was pretty bad outside of about 10 guys.

[Really Clark?]

And that class turned out much worse than 30th. It was pretty bad outside of about 10 guys.

Disagree 2012 was way worse. 10-12 solid starter/contributors in a class about where a Top 30-35 class should be

[ShotgunDawg]

I hope you guys don't find this commmet odd, but Lee Witherspoon looks really good on he hoof. I'm a big believer in that great athletes are "put together" correctly. Look at the 5 star players in the country and notice how their bodies and faces are "put together". I wish I could explain it better than that, but FWIW, in the face and body, Witherspoon looks like a 5 star athlete. I don't know. Gotta feeling with this one. The genetics appear to be right IMO.

https://twitter.com/leewitherspoon9/status/1070131376895217666?s=21

[KOdawg1]

I hope you guys don't find this commmet odd, but Lee Witherspoon looks really good on he hoof. I'm a big believer in that great athletes are "put together" correctly. Look at the 5 star players in the country and notice how their bodies and faces are "put together". I wish I could explain it better than that, but FWIW, in the face and body, Witherspoon looks like a 5 star athlete. I don't know. Gotta feeling with this one. The genetics appear to be right IMO.

https://twitter.com/leewitherspoon9/status/1070131376895217666?s=21

Got yourself a man crush, Shotgun?**

haha I'm just playing, I know what you mean.

[MetEdDawg]

Only thing I see in that picture is that Joe Moorhead is one big dude. Like we all know that but it's hard to not notice that he's significantly taller than the majority of people in that picture.

Don't fight that dude but I bet people want to play for that dude.

[Doggie_Style]

I hope you guys don't find this commmet odd, but Lee Witherspoon looks really good on he hoof. I'm a big believer in that great athletes are "put together" correctly. Look at the 5 star players in the country and notice how their bodies and faces are "put together". I wish I could explain it better than that, but FWIW, in the face and body, Witherspoon looks like a 5 star athlete. I don't know. Gotta feeling with this one. The genetics appear to be right IMO.

https://twitter.com/leewitherspoon9/status/1070131376895217666?s=21

I really hope Witherspoon becomes the greatest RB we have ever had... but I think that is a high risk proposition....I like him as an athlete and think he will contribute in some capacity one day....that being said our RB recruiting was a bust this year as was our LB recruiting and to a lesser extent our WR recruiting....all we are expecting is Championship Standard...HailState!

[ShotgunDawg]

I really hope Witherspoon becomes the greatest RB we have ever had... but I think that is a high risk proposition....I like him as an athlete and think he will contribute in some capacity one day....that being said our RB recruiting was a bust this year as was our LB recruiting and to a lesser extent our WR recruiting....all we are expecting is Championship Standard...HailState!

I completely agree with you.

He absolutely has huge risk to him. I'm just saying that he looks right IMO. If we were picking teams on the playground & you had never seen anyone actually play, I believe he'd be a pretty high pick.

Just looks right.

[Doggie_Style]

I completely agree with you.

He absolutely has huge risk to him. I'm just saying that he looks right IMO. If we were picking teams on the playground & you had never seen anyone actually play, I believe he'd be a pretty high pick.

Just looks right.

I get that...he?s built...and fast, glad we got him!

[Bully13]

Our HC IS A big MF. That's all.

[Todd4State]

I completely agree with you.

He absolutely has huge risk to him. I'm just saying that he looks right IMO. If we were picking teams on the playground & you had never seen anyone actually play, I believe he'd be a pretty high pick.

Just looks right.

I don't think there is all that much risk to him. I think he's the classic case of an underrated player because he hasn't played a lot of football in his career- but he can play.

[Cooterpoot]

There’s no damn risk. We’re on two studs for next year. Hill has a long way to go before he’s a high NFL pick. Witherspoon has offers as good as Gibson. Better than Aries. We picked up a Juco too. Our failure falls on Dan last year when all he could come up with was a non-qualifier.

[Commercecomet24]

There’s no damn risk. We’re on two studs for next year. Hill has a long way to go before he’s a high NFL pick. Witherspoon has offers as good as Gibson. Better than Aries. We picked up a Juco too. Our failure falls on Dan last year when all he could come up with was a non-qualifier.

This^^^^^^

[Doggie_Style]

There?s no damn risk. We?re on two studs for next year. Hill has a long way to go before he?s a high NFL pick. Witherspoon has offers as good as Gibson. Better than Aries. We picked up a Juco too. Our failure falls on Dan last year when all he could come up with was a non-qualifier.

Are you serious...lol.....Witherspoon has almost no experience as a RB...JoMo went all in on someone who was NEVER coming to State at the expense of other 4* recruits...

[Lord McBuckethead]

Socks and sandles though?

[Pollodawg]

Are you serious...lol.....Witherspoon has almost no experience as a RB...JoMo went all in on someone who was NEVER coming to State at the expense of other 4* recruits...


Yeah, you need to calm down. An average-at-best QB not coming here isn’t the end of the world dude. And how do you know how “all in” Moorhead went?

[Okrastar1]

Yeah, you need to calm down. An average-at-best QB not coming here isn?t the end of the world dude. And how do you know how ?all in? Moorhead went?

Think he was meaning RB recruiting Emory(LA) there broski, but twas nice to see us finally show some Cahon?s and go after a big fish vs being happy to catch all the brim in the pond...

Emory strung us along, but we all knew LSU-RB-Yeah prob stayin Home$$$

[Pollodawg]

Think he was meaning RB recruiting Emery(LA) there broski, but twas nice to see us finally show some Cahon?s and go after a big fish vs being happy to catch all the brim in the pond...

Emery strung us along, but we all knew LSU-RB-Yeah prob stayin Home$$$



If that is what he meant, then I apologize. I misunderstood.

[Okrastar1]

I still feel we pull a big name transfer qb, don’t think that is over by a long shot from what I’m hearing... Inquiring on a couple of transfers currently

[Cooterpoot]

[QUOTE=Doggie_Style;1037980]Are you serious...lol.....Witherspoon has almost no experience as a RB...JoMo went all in on someone who was NEVER coming to State at the expense of other 4* recruits]

The kid can play multiple positions too. So you’re mad we went after bigger fish but you’re pissed we signed a lower ranked player? I prefer we chase the big fish. Dan Mullen never signed highly ranked RBs. Hill is the best he signed in 9 years. I’m happy we’re trying. Gray had zero interest in us. Who else were we getting?

[KOdawg1]

As of right now, do we get Derrick hall?

Yes or no

[hacker]

I hope you guys don't find this commmet odd, but Lee Witherspoon looks really good on he hoof. I'm a big believer in that great athletes are "put together" correctly. Look at the 5 star players in the country and notice how their bodies and faces are "put together". I wish I could explain it better than that, but FWIW, in the face and body, Witherspoon looks like a 5 star athlete. I don't know. Gotta feeling with this one. The genetics appear to be right IMO.

https://twitter.com/leewitherspoon9/status/1070131376895217666?s=21

You definitely needed a "no ****" in there

[Doggie_Style]

As of right now, do we get Derrick hall?

Yes or no

No....I think he goes to Florida or Auburn

[Ifyouonlyknew]

As of right now, do we get Derrick hall?

Yes or no

I say yes

[KOdawg1]

It's seems Hall is a tough one to read. Is he an OLB or pass rush DE like sweat in college?

[msu15]

No....I think he goes to Florida or Auburn

That seals it, wrap him in Maroon and White.

[Ari Gold]

Are you serious...lol.....Witherspoon has almost no experience as a RB...JoMo went all in on someone who was NEVER coming to State at the expense of other 4* recruits...

So let’s understand this logic...
We bitch and complain that we dont recruit big time players.
So we go after and are the lead dog for one of the top RB in the country for a few months
We dont get the kid and we complain that we wasted our time and shouldnt be going after these kids
So We get 2 RB that may very well turn out to be 2soild pick ups and we bitch about that

At the expense of other 4* star recruits ? Please name them ...


Guess we are wasting our time on the Chris Tyree the 2020 5* RB

[Dawgology]

So let’s understand this logic...
We bitch and complain that we dont recruit big time players.
So we go after and are the lead dog for one of the top RB in the country for a few months
We dont get the kid and we complain that we wasted our time and shouldnt be going after these kids
So We get 2 RB that may very well turn out to be 2soild pick ups and we bitch about that

At the expense of other 4* star recruits ? Please name them ...
Guess we are wasting our time on the Chris Tyree the 2020 5* RB

All Doggie Style does is post negative shit about MSU recruiting. It's his m.o. Yet I get harassed for calling him a troll. I'm so tired of the loser mentality of our fans. It's so damn old.

[Ari Gold]

If we want to bitch and be worried about RB recruiting
It staters with he staff that left us
2015- Nick Gibson , Alec Murphy ..Alec Murphy couldn’t play RB at any P5 school.
2016 - no RB
2017- one RB Hill
2018- no RB

Theres your ****ing issue with the lack of talent around Hill ...

[Dawgology]

If we want to bitch and be worried about RB recruiting
It staters with he staff that left us
2016 - no RB
2017- one RB Hill
2018- no RB

Theres your ****ing issue with the lack of talent around Hill ...

Yep. Weak ass recruiting by Mullen and his staff. It's unfortunate, if he would have really committed to recruiting I believe he would have had a SEC Championship at MSU.

[msstate7]

If we want to bitch and be worried about RB recruiting
It staters with he staff that left us
2016 - no RB
2017- one RB Hill
2018- no RB

Theres your ****ing issue with the lack of talent around Hill ...

Mullen left us with aeris (senior), hill (soph), and Gibson (soph)... that's 3 4-star RBs. I swear some of you blame Mullen for everything. Mullen left us a BA team and our program in awesome shape. Let em go... he did a great job

[Ari Gold]

Mullen left us with aeris (senior), hill (soph), and Gibson (soph)... that's 3 4-star RBs. I swear some of you blame Mullen for everything. Mullen left us a BA team and our program in awesome shape. Let em go... he did a great job

Only brought it up to shown the lack of RB back depth we have here right now.
4 years of recruiting gives us Gibson and Hill. That’s it
Yet there are some saying it’s a “risk” we are getting Witherspoon...

[StateDawg44]

All Doggie Style does is post negative shit about MSU recruiting. It's his m.o. Yet I get harassed for calling him a troll. I'm so tired of the loser mentality of our fans. It's so damn old.

Not your exact words you used. Not going to continue that in the recruiting thread though.

[ShotgunDawg]

Whatever happened to Diwun Black?

I haven't heard that dude's name in any context for about 6 months

[Dawgology]

Not your exact words you used. Not going to continue that in the recruiting thread though.

We can settle it at Eckies Pond. Midnight. No brass knuckles and no punching in the face.

[Ari Gold]

Whatever happened to Diwun Black?

I haven't heard that dude's name in any context for about 6 months

Unless something has changed Would be shocked if he plays one down of college football at Florida or any other P5 school

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Whatever happened to Diwun Black?

I haven't heard that dude's name in any context for about 6 months

He is "taking a year off of football to concentrate on grades" My bet is he is done.

[Dawgology]

He is "taking a year off of football to concentrate on grades" My bet is he is done.

Hate to see lack of educational guidance lead to a kid losing his chance on the field. It's a damn shame.

[Doggie_Style]

Whatever happened to Diwun Black?

I haven't heard that dude's name in any context for about 6 months

He's taking his OV to Florida this weekend, Mullen thinks he can get him to campus

[Doggie_Style]

Mullen left us with aeris (senior), hill (soph), and Gibson (soph)... that's 3 4-star RBs. I swear some of you blame Mullen for everything. Mullen left us a BA team and our program in awesome shape. Let em go... he did a great job

I agree....the 2018 RB situation with Webb not qualifying hurt for sure....that's why this year was so important. I'm all for going after the top guys like Emery & Ealy but you have to understand your chances of actually signing them. Yea Tyree would be a home run but what are the chances he comes to MSU over Penn State? I'd say less than 10% so I'm going hard after Marks (which we are). Joe is still learning.

[Scared_Hitless]

I agree....the 2018 RB situation with Webb not qualifying hurt for sure....that's why this year was so important. I'm all for going after the top guys like Emery & Ealy but you have to understand your chances of actually signing them. Yea Tyree would be a home run but what are the chances he comes to MSU over Penn State? I'd say less than 10% so I'm going hard after Marks (which we are). Joe is still learning.

You cant have it both ways do you want to strive to win championships or happy with 6-6. If we want to move up the echelon you have to pursue difference makers. I get it we missed but gotta get in the box to hit a home run. This staff is filling needs and recruiting well no need to crucify them over missing on a top talent. It happens.

[Dawgology]

Decommitted from Ohio State. Do we make a run at him or not worth the time? He has an offer from us.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Jake-Wray-100196/RecruitInterests/

[Cooterpoot]

I agree....the 2018 RB situation with Webb not qualifying hurt for sure....that's why this year was so important. I'm all for going after the top guys like Emery & Ealy but you have to understand your chances of actually signing them. Yea Tyree would be a home run but what are the chances he comes to MSU over Penn State? I'd say less than 10% so I'm going hard after Marks (which we are). Joe is still learning.

And I'm not trying to beat you up Doggie. I think we've all gotten used to Dan's recruiting style just like we did with the way he handled other things, and now we're seeing a move to something else.

[Johnson85]

Mullen left us with aeris (senior), hill (soph), and Gibson (soph)... that's 3 4-star RBs. I swear some of you blame Mullen for everything. Mullen left us a BA team and our program in awesome shape. Let em go... he did a great job

Mullen certainly did a good job overall. But not having a RB in the JR or FR class is bad. Granted RB is I guess the easiest position on offense to find a good JUCO option, but still not a good position to leave us in.

[ShotgunDawg]

Tyree releases his top 10 and we are in it.

Gotta say, we may have chance here. There are a number of schools on here that we can beat based on our program, some academic schools, and the absence of Georgia, LSU, and Bama has to make you feel a little better.

https://twitter.com/chris_tyree4/status/1070382765084946432?s=21

[Bully13]

Not this shit again. Maybe we'll lose out to Maine or uab this time.

[smootness]

Not often you see a big-time RB, or any position, with a top-10 that has only 1 SEC school...and to have that school be us.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Should he be loyal to his home state or no?

[msu15]

Not this shit again. Maybe we'll lose out to Maine or uab this time.

Uhhhhh.....

[Dildoes]

Not often you see a big-time RB, or any position, with a top-10 that has only 1 SEC school...and to have that school be us.

A glimmer of hope

[msu15]

A glimmer of hope

"A hope? A chance."

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Not often you see a big-time RB, or any position, with a top-10 that has only 1 SEC school...and to have that school be us.

hahaha..That's gonna change.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

we're definitely in it with Tyree. His recruitment isn't similar to Emery at all even though I'm sure everyone will use that recruitment to base Tyree's. Tyree has been to Starkville 3 times since April. Emery visited once ever. Huff has been on Tyree hard for over 2yrs he's put in the leg work. I'm not ready to say he's ours but anyone just dismissing us because of Emery is clueless.

[KOdawg1]

That's odd that he doesn't have Bama or Georgia in his top 10. Not saying he isn't legit, but if you're a 5 star, you've got them in your top choices normally. Hopefully Huff and Joe can go get him.

[ShotgunDawg]

Should he be loyal to his home state or no?

Certainly couldn't blame him if he is

[ShotgunDawg]

we're definitely in it with Tyree. His recruitment isn't similar to Emery at all even though I'm sure everyone will use that recruitment to base Tyree's. Tyree has been to Starkville 3 times since April. Emery visited once ever. Huff has been on Tyree hard for over 2yrs he's put in the leg work. I'm not ready to say he's ours but anyone just dismissing us because of Emery is clueless.

Good to hear

[Cowbell]

we're definitely in it with Tyree. His recruitment isn't similar to Emery at all even though I'm sure everyone will use that recruitment to base Tyree's. Tyree has been to Starkville 3 times since April. Emery visited once ever. Huff has been on Tyree hard for over 2yrs he's put in the leg work. I'm not ready to say he's ours but anyone just dismissing us because of Emery is clueless.

It?s honestly ridiculous that you have to constantly bring facts to the table to get people over our backseat attitude. Thanks for keeping us updated with good info.

[Ari Gold]

Concerning Early Signing Day.
Was told we expect around 80% of our guys to sign early.

[Hambone]

That’s great news unless the top 5 are the 20% that doesn’t sign. And I know that’s just one of the givens if you’re going to recruit with the big boys. The big difference this year is I believe this staff will hold on to these guys and they ultimately will sign.

[Irondawg]

But I’ll feel better if we get Pickering, Moore, Schrader, Jones and a few others into the boat in Dec

[Pit Bull]

Very important recruitment factor per Nakobe Dean.......he is looking for a good engineering school.

[Cooterpoot]

Forget about Dean. Not even remotely a chance.

[Cowbell]

Forget about Dean. Not even remotely a chance.

Any particular reasons why?

[Todd4State]

Only brought it up to shown the lack of RB back depth we have here right now.
4 years of recruiting gives us Gibson and Hill. That?s it
Yet there are some saying it?s a ?risk? we are getting Witherspoon...

Dan's recruiting hurt us as much or more with not signing anyone in some instances than it did with the players he missed.

You could say the same about QB- which is why we couldn't redshirt Key, you mentioned RB, WR, and OL. Most of the guys we have signed are good players but when we're having to start sophomores at positions like OT and WR and they aren't 5 star phenoms simply because we lack depth it's a major issue as to why our offense struggled this past year.

[Bothrops]

I don't think Pickering and Moore are signing this month. Hopefully we'll have a good weekend.

[msu15]

Dan's recruiting hurt us as much or more with not signing anyone in some instances than it did with the players he missed.

You could say the same about QB- which is why we couldn't redshirt Key, you mentioned RB, WR, and OL. Most of the guys we have signed are good players but when we're having to start sophomores at positions like OT and WR and they aren't 5 star phenoms simply because we lack depth it's a major issue as to why our offense struggled this past year.

I understand your point, but Reese and Eiland were just fine this season

[msstate7]

Dan's recruiting hurt us as much or more with not signing anyone in some instances than it did with the players he missed.

You could say the same about QB- which is why we couldn't redshirt Key, you mentioned RB, WR, and OL. Most of the guys we have signed are good players but when we're having to start sophomores at positions like OT and WR and they aren't 5 star phenoms simply because we lack depth it's a major issue as to why our offense struggled this past year.

After Georgia and bama, what sec teams didn't have holes in their roster?

[BrunswickDawg]

Decommitted from Ohio State. Do we make a run at him or not worth the time? He has an offer from us.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Jake-Wray-100196/RecruitInterests/

I'd love it if we went after Wray. I graduated from MHS - word is he is a great kid, but he is part of a group of players who moved or transferred in to play with QB Harrison Bailey - 2020 Tennessee commit. He's from Tennessee originally, so I would be shocked if he didn't end up there with Bailey.

Marietta is loaded with talent right now and should challenge for a State Title next year.

[Cooterpoot]

Wray is going to sign with OSU in all likelihood. There's a connection there.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Wray is a 2020 kid

[Turfdawg67]

All Doggie Style does is post negative shit about MSU recruiting. It's his m.o. Yet I get harassed for calling him a troll. I'm so tired of the loser mentality of our fans. It's so damn old.

I second that. And how many freaking times has he posted that our RB/LB recruiting sucks? We get it, shaddup already!

[bostondawg]

Very important recruitment factor per Nakobe Dean.......he is looking for a good engineering school.

Nakobe Dean to MIT ***

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I'm saying our final signees outside of 22 current commits will be:
Matt Bedford
Charles Cross (Pendley as a backup plan if we don't get these 2)
Derick Hall
Raydarious Jones
Keonte Schad (no offer yet tho...numbers thing Steve says)

Sounds like Montravious Richardson could get dropped and Brandon Cunningham has real questions when it comes to qualifying. Hope no one else is at risk of not qualifying.

What yall think of my 25?

[Doggie_Style]

I second that. And how many freaking times has he posted that our RB/LB recruiting sucks? We get it, shaddup already!

Somebody has to keep you knee-pad wearers and water carriers in check.....it's a freakin message board get over yourself

[msu15]

I'm saying our final signees outside of 22 current commits will be:
Matt Bedford
Charles Cross
Derick Hall
Raydarious Jones
Keonte Schad

Sounds like Montravious Richardson could get dropped and Brandon Cunningham has real questions when it comes to qualifying. Hope no one else is at risk of not qualifying.

What yall think of my 25?

Of those 5 you listed the only 2 I'm confident in getting at this point are Bedford and Cross. Schad's recruitment is starting to pick up so there's no telling where he's leaning, every day there seems to be some bad news on Hall, and Jones looks like TSUN's to lose.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Of those 5 you listed the only 2 I'm confident in getting at this point are Bedford and Cross. Schad's recruitment is starting to pick up so there's no telling where he's leaning, every day there seems to be some bad news on Hall, and Jones looks like TSUN's to lose.

I hear ya on Hall and Jones. Steve says on BSR that we may wait til after Dec signing day on Schad to see if there is a starter at DT in juco outside.

[Irondawg]

I really like Jones as well but we don't seem to have much traction there. And Hall is just weird. Get the feeling somebody in his ear doesn't care for MSU for whatever reason. Heck, he might not just like us which would be fine, but that doesn't seem the case since we've consistently been among his leaders

[Cooterpoot]

I just get the feeling Jones isn't signing early (based on talk in Hburg last week) and we're going to get more involved, but we'll have to see. IYOK knows more about him and he's early entry eligible right? Hate not to pull him.

[Doggie_Style]

I'm saying our final signees outside of 22 current commits will be:
Matt Bedford
Charles Cross (Pendley as a backup plan if we don't get these 2)
Derick Hall
Raydarious Jones
Keonte Schad (no offer yet tho...numbers thing Steve says)

Sounds like Montravious Richardson could get dropped and Brandon Cunningham has real questions when it comes to qualifying. Hope no one else is at risk of not qualifying.

What yall think of my 25?

I don't see Pendley as a back up plan. I think we want 6 frosh OL's on campus:

Bedford, Washington, Sharp, Jones, Cross and Pendley.....that would be a decent haul

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I don't see Pendley as a back up plan. I think we want 6 frosh OL's on campus:

Bedford, Washington, Sharp, Jones, Cross and Pendley.....that would be a decent haul

Cunningham though?

[Cooterpoot]

Sharp isn't a Fr. Cunningham makes 6 Fr.

[smootness]

I'd love it if we went after Wray. I graduated from MHS - word is he is a great kid, but he is part of a group of players who moved or transferred in to play with QB Harrison Bailey - 2020 Tennessee commit. He's from Tennessee originally, so I would be shocked if he didn't end up there with Bailey.

Marietta is loaded with talent right now and should challenge for a State Title next year.

What Marietta did in getting all that talent is just stupid. The fact they lost 1st round this year cracks me up.

[Turfdawg67]

Jarrian doing work... c'mon Brandon!

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[KOdawg1]

Jarrian doing work... c'mon Brandon!

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JJ is gonna be a great Bulldog for us.

[dawgday166]

After Georgia and bama, what sec teams didn't have holes in their roster?

They have holes too this year. But Todd do like to blame all our offensive woes on Mullen and his recruiting while to me it's more on Joe than Mullen this year. Our Oline shouldn't have played as badly as they did in our 4 losses. And Aeris should've started all season also.

[Cooterpoot]

They have holes too this year. But Todd do like to blame all our offensive woes on Mullen and his recruiting while to me it's more on Joe than Mullen this year. Our Oline shouldn't have played as badly as they did in our 4 losses. And Aeris should've started all season also.

Joe does have some blame, but he doesn't have decent WRs and the OL was a big, power run unit for the Mullen style. Look at the OL we're recruiting this time. Most are in the 260-275 range, instead of the 320lb. We're looking for guys that can do more than just block down.

[ShotgunDawg]

They have holes too this year. But Todd do like to blame all our offensive woes on Mullen and his recruiting while to me it's more on Joe than Mullen this year. Our Oline shouldn't have played as badly as they did in our 4 losses. And Aeris should've started all season also.

I don't see why anyone would blame Moorhead for lower level power 5 WR play and a QB with slow processing speed. Moorhead was very limited in what he could do offensively.

That being said, if Osiris catches the football, we are in NY6 Bowl

[Ari Gold]

Concerning Early Signing Day.
Was told we expect around 80% of our guys to sign early.

JJ just tweets he would be signing Dec 19.
My guess is that we will eclipse that 80%

[Cooterpoot]

How many new commits this weekend? I feel like 2 if Bedford makes the decision.

[Commercecomet24]

How many new commits this weekend? I feel like 2, possibly 3.

I think we get 3.

[Doggie_Style]

I think we get 3.

Bedford, Cross and Pendley? Any surprises coming to campus this weekend?

[LibraryDawg]

Anyone have an accurate visitors list for this weekend?

[Cooterpoot]

I think Cross, Pendley, and maybe Ealy are it for prospects. Bunch of commits coming in. Next week I'm hoping it'll be Hall and Jones. Bedford was last week.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I could see all the OL recruits wait until signing day before committing. They may pull the trigger this weekend but if they don't it's nothing to worry about.

[msbulldog]

Anyone have an accurate visitors list for this weekend?

compliments of Paul Jones and 247

WEEKEND LIST OF OFFICIAL VISITORS
MSU commit DJ James of Spanish Fort (Ala.) HS
MSU commit Martin Emerson of Pine Forest (Fla.) HS
MSU commit Gregory Brooks of West Jefferson (La.) HS
MSU commit Brevyn Jones of Huffman (Ala.) HS
MSU commit Jarrian Jones of NW Rankin HS
MSU commit Fred Peters of Jones College
MSU commit Kyziah Pruitt of Noxubee County
MSU commit Javeious Purvis of Pelahatchie HS
MSU commit De'Monte Russell of Provine HS
MSU commit LaQuinston Sharp of East Miss. Community College
MSU commit Garrett Shrader of Charlotte (N.C.) Christian
MSU commit Quinton Torbor of Destrehan (La.) HS
MSU commit Kareem Walker of Fort Scott (Kan.) Community College
MSU commit Lee Witherspoon of North Jackson (Ala.) HS
OL prospect Charles Cross of Laurel High School
OL prospect Nick Pendley of Creekview (Ga,) HS
LB prospect Adam Norsworthy of Jackson Prep (preferred walkon)
RB Jerrion Ealy of Jackson Prep (Ole Miss commit)

[ShotgunDawg]

Any info on how Hall's home visit went last night?

[Doggie_Style]

I think Cross, Pendley, and maybe Ealy are it for prospects. Bunch of commits coming in. Next week I'm hoping it'll be Hall and Jones. Bedford was last week.

Raydar Jones is set for early next week per Paul

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Raydar Jones is set for early next week per Paul

Monday & Tuesday I'm pretty sure.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Any info on how Hall's home visit went last night?

Things went well. The whole crew plus JoeMo will be back next week. He's supposed to OV next week. As long as he shows up I expect him in this class.

[dawgday166]

Joe does have some blame, but he doesn't have decent WRs and the OL was a big, power run unit for the Mullen style. Look at the OL we're recruiting this time. Most are in the 260-275 range, instead of the 320lb. We're looking for guys that can do more than just block down.

As Prediction Pain noted in his stats to the Iowa guys ... this same group excelled at pass blocking the last 2 years. While all of the blame kinda flows up to Joe as the head man, Marcus Johnson is a young coach and no matter what anyone says, Hev can coach Oline. This team could've and should've averaged no worse in SEC play than we averaged last year. Some of it was game planning too. Joe is learning tho I believe.

ETA: I have noticed Joe appears to be going the lighter/quicker route for Olinemen.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

As Prediction Pain noted in his stats to the Iowa guys ... this same group excelled at pass blocking the last 2 years. While all of the blame kinda flows up to Joe as the head man, Marcus Johnson is a young coach and no matter what anyone says, Hev can coach Oline. This team could've and should've averaged no worse in SEC play than we averaged last year. Some of it was game planning too. Joe is learning tho I believe.

ETA: I have noticed Joe appears to be going the lighter/quicker route for Olinemen.

Part of that is scheme why we gave up less sacks. We normally always kept a TE or RB or both in protection with Mullen.

[BeardoMSU]

As long as he shows up I expect him in this class.

Well that's good news.

[dawgday166]

Part of that is scheme why we gave up less sacks. We normally always kept a TE or RB or both in protection with Mullen.

Won't argue that and when we did that against TAM it worked really well. We let Allen eat us up all night when we played KY tho. IMO Joe should've made those kinds of adjustments earlier in the season in the passing game. About 1.5 secs before getting hit by a DE or LB ain't much time for Nick to "quickly process" information.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Won't argue that and when we did that against TAM it worked really well. We let Allen eat us up all night when we played KY tho. IMO Joe should've made those kinds of adjustments earlier in the season in the passing game. About 1.5 secs before getting hit by a DE or LB ain't much time for Nick to "quickly process" information.

No argument from me.