2019 Recruiting Thread

[Doggie_Style]

I dont know but I do know that Mingo isnt like many up there. He'd be a good fit at MSU but they can sell sending WRs to the league, we cant

I get that and agree...but it?s a weak ass argument....a great WR at Mississippi Valley can make the league and even the HOF

[Turfdawg67]

Just gonna throw this out there.

There's an outside chance that MSU signs a top 15 class

Boy you've done a 180 from a few months ago! Lolz!

[BuckyIsAB****]

I get that and agree...but it?s a weak ass argument....a great WR at Mississippi Valley can make the league and even the HOF

There are some things working in our favor with him but the biggest thing helping OM's case with them is the fact that they have thrown the ball around and have put WRs in the league more consistently than we have.

He is a great kid though he's not an OM type kid. Super competitive outspoken, wants to win. But hes gonna want the rock too, Moorhead and co need to convince him we can get it to him

[Turfdawg67]

There are some things working in our favor with him but the biggest thing helping OM's case with them is the fact that they have thrown the ball around and have put WRs in the league more consistently than we have.

He is a great kid though he's not an OM type kid. Super competitive outspoken, wants to win. But hes gonna want the rock too, Moorhead and co need to convince him we can get it to him

Lord have mercy... with that logic we'd never sign a RB better than a 3* either. If you're good enough, the NFL will find you.

[Doggie_Style]

There are some things working in our favor with him but the biggest thing helping OM's case with them is the fact that they have thrown the ball around and have put WRs in the league more consistently than we have.

He is a great kid though he's not an OM type kid. Super competitive outspoken, wants to win. But hes gonna want the rock too, Moorhead and co need to convince him we can get it to him

I appreciate your insight....I would love to think we have a shot....he’s a game changer!

[Bothrops]

Very very good chance!

Not so fast...one or more of the rating sites would catch it and prevent it from happening. I expect some of our commits to rise a little, but some of our highest ranked guys to fall. Ealy would most certainly fall if he flipped. Mingo too. It's all a game.

[ShotgunDawg]

Boy you've done a 180 from a few months ago! Lolz!

So has our recruiting.

[StateDawg44]

So has our recruiting.

Yeah, typically you have more recruits piling in after the season and closer to the signing day. Especially with the early signing period now.

Shouldn't be some revelation that it's picked up now.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Agreed. 100 percent

#Mingo2State

[HoopsDawg]

I get that and agree...but it?s a weak ass argument....a great WR at Mississippi Valley can make the league and even the HOF

We have an actual NFL WR coach. Can't get much better than that if you want to get to the league. This isn't a Mullen team. JoMo had 2 WRs make the league from his 2 years at PSU. Just convince him we are going to throw more. And ole miss might throw less.

[NotCoJoMo]

Very very good chance!
Come on! Throw us a bone! Details!

[Cowbell]

Come on! Throw us a bone! Details!

I second this commerce

[bobcat91]

So we wined and dined Hall and family today. What did he tell the staff

[maroonmania]

So we wined and dined Hall and family today. What did he tell the staff

Not holding my breath on Hall. The fact he chose to go to the Plantation on our big recruiting weekend tells me most of what I need to know.

[bobcat91]

Not holding my breath on Hall. The fact he chose to go to the Plantation on our big recruiting weekend tells me most of what I need to know.

I'm over him and just want finality so we can move on to other prospects. It's pretty obvious he doesnt want to come so dont let him back into the class because he really isnt a take for Auburn.

[GreenheadDawg]

Not holding my breath on Hall. The fact he chose to go to the Plantation on our big recruiting weekend tells me most of what I need to know.

Yeah doesn’t sound like he has much interest in us.

[Irondawg]

With Hall the question is if he isn’t interested or if a decision maker is sour on MSU for some reason.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Yeah doesn’t sound like he has much interest in us.

Bwahahahhahahahah!!

[GreenheadDawg]

Bwahahahhahahahah!!

As usual, thanks for your groundbreaking insight.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

As usual, thanks for your groundbreaking insight.

Ha.... I think what you said was funny because it provided no insight. How ironic.

Not sure what the "as usual means" Just because I am not giving all the info I know don't mean you have to hate. hahahahha

[confucius say]

Well Hall just announced he will be signing on 12-19, for what that is worth

[SailingDawg]

OM coaches in the hall talking to Derick Hall (GPT).

[Doggie_Style]

Per Yancy: Couple more side notes on Nakobe Dean . He said the LSU coaches also visited him Monday but were only there for about “30 minutes.”

Also hear his girlfriend will enroll at Ole Miss in the fall as well.

Yancy is one creepy dude!

[thf24]

Per Yancy: Couple more side notes on Nakobe Dean . He said the LSU coaches also visited him Monday but were only there for about “30 minutes.”

Also hear his girlfriend will enroll at Ole Miss in the fall as well.

Yancy is one creepy dude!

Sounds like he's setting himself and the flock up for another Cam Akers watch party jilt.

[MetEdDawg]

Per Yancy: Couple more side notes on Nakobe Dean . He said the LSU coaches also visited him Monday but were only there for about “30 minutes.”

Also hear his girlfriend will enroll at Ole Miss in the fall as well.

Yancy is one creepy dude!

When you start going after high school girlfriends, I think you've hit a really bad mark. I have two daughters and if either of them were dating a higher profile football player and a college started trying to use their relationship as a means to get their boyfriend to come to their school, I would beat the door down of the office of the highest level person I could find and chew their ass out.

[ShotgunDawg]

Anybody got any real insight into Hall's recruitment?

The hot and cold nature of his recruitment with MSU doesn't make any sense.

[Dawgology]

Per Yancy: Couple more side notes on Nakobe Dean . He said the LSU coaches also visited him Monday but were only there for about “30 minutes.”

Also hear his girlfriend will enroll at Ole Miss in the fall as well.

Yancy is one creepy dude!

HAHAHAAHAHA sounds like a total Ole Miss move. Still playing with the same playbook. Look for the NCAA to land on their doorstep again in a year or two....

[Irondawg]

If OM pulls Dean I'll give them kudos for figuring out a way to make it happen. I don't think they pull Hall but if they did that would just be very strange. I'm not saying we shouldn't have gotten Dean but just weird how we were never really a player despite a high-ranked defense for a kid that is a big 4H kid and stuff. He always just seemed like a good fit potentially at MSU. Just hope now he goes goes to GA

[msu15]

If OM pulls Dean I'll give them kudos for figuring out a way to make it happen. I don't think they pull Hall but if they did that would just be very strange. I'm not saying we shouldn't have gotten Dean but just weird how we were never really a player despite a high-ranked defense for a kid that is a big 4H kid and stuff. He always just seemed like a good fit potentially at MSU. Just hope now he goes goes to GA

He's gotten CB's to Bama recently.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Sounds like he's setting himself and the flock up for another Cam Akers watch party jilt.

Still one of the funniest recruiting moments in recent memory. The look on their faces at the multiple watch parties was priceless.

[Coursesuper]

Anybody got any real insight into Hall's recruitment?

The hot and cold nature of his recruitment with MSU doesn't make any sense.

If you follow at all this really isn't that hard to figure out. It has all the ear marks of the usual plan.

[Commercecomet24]

If you follow at all this really isn't that hard to figure out. It has all the ear marks of the usual plan.

Would love to get Hall but with or without him this is gonna be a dang good class!

[Lord McBuckethead]

Yes and with or without him, MSU's defense is going to be better than Auburn's and UM's.
Might as well be part of (Defense)U at MSU.

[Todd4State]

Still one of the funniest recruiting moments in recent memory. The look on their faces at the multiple watch parties was priceless.

It was joyous!

[ShotgunDawg]

Seems like Ari and IYOK haven't had much info round here lately

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Seems like Ari and IYOK haven't had much info round here lately

It's only a few targets right now. It's only so much you can say about the same 2-3 guys.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's only a few targets right now. It's only so much you can say about the same 2-3 guys.

True

[Commercecomet24]

It's only a few targets right now. It's only so much you can say about the same 2-3 guys.

Yeah most of the toys are already under the tree just the last minute stocking stuffers to get to round out the season!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yeah most of the toys are already under the tree just the last minute stocking stuffers to get to round out the season!

I'd say these left are a lot bigger than stocking stuffers

[msbulldog]

Yeah most of the toys are already under the tree just the last minute stocking stuffers to get to round out the season!

Merry Christmas MSU football!

[Commercecomet24]

I'd say these left are a lot bigger than stocking stuffers

They definitely are I was just making a Christmas analogy lol

[HoopsDawg]

It's only a few targets right now. It's only so much you can say about the same 2-3 guys.

When I look at our current class, I see 22 commits b/c we know at least one won't qualify and he might not even sign. Then we have Washington and Emerson who are a little bit up in the air. So we need to have 5 pretty good players set up to recruit and possibly sign b/c you almost have to sign 25 every year. Then looking at our board we have:

1. Hall, our staff seems to have done all you can ask
2. Bedford, haven't heard lately but I expect him to sign with the good guys
3. Mingo, we appear to be running 3rd behind Ole Miss and UGA
4. a Juco DT, haven't heard any names
5. Ealy, sure I think we should sign him if we have room, no real reason not to

Anyone else out there? I hate we didn't recruit Drummond. I would have loved to have him in our rotation and it's not like we can afford to be super choosey.

[Cooterpoot]

Drummond doesn’t fit what we want. We got our Juco guy and next year we got at least two more coming.

[HoopsDawg]

Drummond doesn’t fit what we want. We got our Juco guy and next year we got at least two more coming.

I put him in the best available category. I think we have a better WR group with him in it next year. I guess the hope is that Whop will make a big jump otherwise it's the same guys. Payton can run a go route, but he was the 3rd option this year at his school. Drummond is a record holder at EMCC.

[Cooterpoot]

We don’t have a spot for another Juco WR. And Mingo is the best available WR. Drummond is slow. We’ve got possession guys.

[HoopsDawg]

We don’t have a spot for another Juco WR. And Mingo is the best available WR. Drummond is slow. We’ve got possession guys.

You didn't tell me anything I don't already know. Give me your 5 targets then if you don't want Drummond b/c I can assure you our current commit list is going to change.

[Cooterpoot]

Our list isn’t changing much. Two players maybe, and I think that’s doubtful. One possible qualifying issue. We’re in a good spot. LB is the only spot I’m concerned a little with. Maybe DT depth.

[HoopsDawg]

Our list isn’t changing much. Two players maybe, and I think that’s doubtful. One possible qualifying issue. We’re in a good spot. LB is the only spot I’m concerned a little with. Maybe DT depth.

You still aren't giving any names. I guess you just don't know and that's fine.

[Cooterpoot]

Know what? I’m not looking for replacements for commits I don’t believe are going anywhaere. After signing day, we’ll see.

[HoopsDawg]

Know what? I’m not looking for replacements for commits I don’t believe are going anywhaere. After signing day, we’ll see.

Absolute best case scenario we still need 3 more guys. Who are your 3?

[Cooterpoot]

Best case, Mingo, Ealy, Bedford. No names at LB that I know of. No Juco DT name I know of. Their will be new names after signing day.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Best case, Mingo, Ealy, Bedford. No names at LB that I know of. No Juco DT name I know of. Their will be new names after signing day.

Keonte Schad is the only JUCO DT I have read or heard mentioned.

What about Zach Edwards or Kevon Glenn at ILB

[HoopsDawg]

Keonte Schad is the only JUCO DT I have read or heard mentioned.

What about Zach Edwards or Kevon Glenn at ILB

Schad sticking with the gophers. Edwards is a no. No idea on Glenn but based on this post I'm going to say no.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

After Wednesday I'm sure they'll re-evaluate the board for the final stretch run & go from there. Hard to know names when you're not 100% who's going to be available yet.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Schad sticking with the gophers. Edwards is a no. No idea on Glenn but based on this post I'm going to say no.

Surely if we need a guy and have a spot left we would take Edwards though...

I dont see why not esp at that position

[BuckyIsAB****]

After Wednesday I'm sure they'll re-evaluate the board for the final stretch run & go from there. Hard to know names when you're not 100% who's going to be available yet.

Mingo wont be signing Wednesday so we are going to have to wait

[msstate7]

Mingo wont be signing Wednesday so we are going to have to wait

Has this been the case all along or recent change of mind?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Surely if we need a guy and have a spot left we would take Edwards though...

I dont see why not esp at that position

Grades

[HoopsDawg]

Mingo wont be signing Wednesday so we are going to have to wait

We hope not. If he signs Wednesday, we have no shot.

[Irondawg]

what's the scoop on this guy who has apparently been showing out some at the MS/AL practices?

https://247sports.com/Player/Antavious-Willis-46059067/

[BuckyIsAB****]

We hope not. If he signs Wednesday, we have no shot.

Hes not

[BuckyIsAB****]

Has this been the case all along or recent change of mind?

Been the case for a while

[Rayburn8]

what's the scoop on this guy who has apparently been showing out some at the MS/AL practices?

https://247sports.com/Player/Antavious-Willis-46059067/

He was Velma Jackson's offense this year. He played some RB, some WR, and some QB. Overall a stud athlete that dominated at that level.

Just probably not big enough for the next level.

[bulldawg28]

He was Velma Jackson's offense this year. He played some RB, some WR, and some QB. Overall a stud athlete that dominated at that level.

Just probably not big enough for the next level.

If he's 5'10 he's big enough

[Cooterpoot]

Every year somebody that isn’t an SEC guy had good practices at the all star game and fans clamor for them to get looks. They go on to a small school and disappear.

[MetEdDawg]

Every year somebody that isn’t an SEC guy had good practices at the all star game and fans clamor for them to get looks. They go on to a small school and disappear.

This is correct and I don't know why it happens.

[Irondawg]

Every year somebody that isn’t an SEC guy had good practices at the all star game and fans clamor for them to get looks. They go on to a small school and disappear.

Oh I agree for sure. He's just been mentioned as one of the standouts two days in a row at the slot with no real mention of Pruitt. I had never heard of him so didn't know if he was a guys not getting any offers because of a smaller school, or grades, didn't go to any camps, isn't fast enough or big enough or something else.

[Ari Gold]

Best thing for everyone to do is Chill till Wednesday.. Hall And Bedford are the 2 names to watch between now and then
Like IYOK said after Wednesday , we see who is still available and focus on need and best available and those that we have been on that didn’t sign early .
Some new names will pop up, always does ( my guess it will be a juco ). Also some of these bigger boys (like UGA did with JRP) will have classes getting full and will pull the grey shirt card out on some kids. They might look for other landing spots
Biggest thing is to get as many of our guys signed Wednesday as possible . 80% was the number I was told. Anything greater than that is gravy ...

Enjoy the weekend and the hoops game Sat night

[HoopsDawg]

We will sign 18 on Wednesday. So there will be plenty of work to do for February.

[Cooterpoot]

You might as well count Pickering. He's not going anywhere. Emerson is the only one I'd really hate to lose. There's two that are going to screw around and lose their spots if they don't sign.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

You might as well count Pickering. He's not going anywhere. Emerson is the only one I'd really hate to lose. There's two that are going to screw around and lose their spots if they don't sign.

Can we count on Moore tho? His stock dropping?

[MetEdDawg]

You might as well count Pickering. He's not going anywhere. Emerson is the only one I'd really hate to lose. There's two that are going to screw around and lose their spots if they don't sign.

This is the part that I believe under Moorhead we might begin to see a little more of. Some of these kids that are still available after next week may get additional interest from us. We have shown we can recruit and get kids to flip already. It's like a second recruiting season after this early signing day. Kids are weighing options, not sure what to do, so we will open the lines of communication with others.

[Scared_Hitless]

I am not worried about this staff and effort on the recruiting front. For once I feel confident that we are going to close strong. If we finish with a top 20 class no one should be complaining about the guys we missed. Because that would mean we hit alot. If we can raise our profile from 27 where we currently sit to the 17-19 range we are going to win alot more games going forward.

Keep winning bowls, keep putting guys in the league, and we may see some real success in the next ten years that MS State has never experienced. It's a marathon to build a program we all see how taking shortcuts got Ole Miss in a bind. Keep grinding.

[KOdawg1]

Darius Washington is taking an unofficial visit to FSU this weekend. Will be interesting to see if he sticks with us. Seems to be flirting around in Florida

[msstate7]

Darius Washington is taking an unofficial visit to FSU this weekend. Will be interesting to see if he sticks with us. Seems to be flirting around in Florida

If Washington comes here with an FSU offer, he's "shameful and embassing". Right, shotgun?

[Cooterpoot]

Darius Washington is taking an unofficial visit to FSU this weekend. Will be interesting to see if he sticks with us. Seems to be flirting around in Florida

He's one of the two.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

If Washington comes here with an FSU offer, he's "shameful and embarrassing". Right, shotgun?

I would definitely question his loyalty.****

[HoopsDawg]

If Washington comes here with an FSU offer, he's "shameful and embassing". Right, shotgun?

Don't bring that crap to the recruiting thread.

[Irondawg]

Washington does seem to be sniffing around his home state. He's been an under the radar guy nobody has talked so will be interesting to see what happens there. I'm guessing we're still high on him and want him though.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Don't bring that crap to the recruiting thread.

Yea take that recruiting talk somewhere else!!!!!****

[Lord McBuckethead]

I have a feeling we are going to hear some good news today. Lets get it.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Don't bring that crap to the recruiting thread.

I would think that the recruiting thread would be the proper forum to discuss recruiting.

[ShotgunDawg]

If Washington comes here with an FSU offer, he's "shameful and embassing". Right, shotgun?

Not exactly the same amount of instate talent. You try to counter with dumb arguments. Again, you'd make a great Bama fan.

You should consider it.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Not exactly the same amount of instate talent. You try to counter with dumb arguments. Again, you'd make a great Bama fan.

You should consider it.

What about Virginia? Would that be more comparable? Chris Tyree 2020 RB from there.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Texas Tech just approved beer sales at games. Good news is here fellas.

[Cooterpoot]

Texas Tech just approved beer sales at games. Good news is here fellas.

You can forget MS doing it. We're still forcing dry counties/cities on people. MS is ignorant.

[StateDawg44]

You can forget MS doing it. We're still forcing dry counties/cities on people. MS is ignorant.

Why on Earth would any recruit want to leave such ignorance?***

[Cooterpoot]

Why on Earth would any recruit want to leave such ignorance?***

???? I mean, if beer is important to them.

[StateDawg44]

???? I mean, if beer is important to them.

Wasn't directed at you. Just ignore me. Pretty sure the person it was directed to has put me on their ignore list any ways.

[NCDawg]

Best thing for everyone to do is Chill till Wednesday.. Hall And Bedford are the 2 names to watch between now and then
Like IYOK said after Wednesday , we see who is still available and focus on need and best available and those that we have been on that didn?t sign early .
Some new names will pop up, always does ( my guess it will be a juco ). Also some of these bigger boys (like UGA did with JRP) will have classes getting full and will pull the grey shirt card out on some kids. They might look for other landing spots
Biggest thing is to get as many of our guys signed Wednesday as possible . 80% was the number I was told. Anything greater than that is gravy ...

Enjoy the weekend and the hoops game Sat night

Do you know anything about Ealy and whether or not he's going to sign with Ole Miss?

[Ari Gold]

Do you know anything about Ealy and whether or not he's going to sign with Ole Miss?

I said a while back that Ealy prob wasn’t going to sign with anyone in Dec or Feb.
he waits till after Baseball draft and then weighs his options
And I said if does play football and baseball in college (which I highly doubt) it will be at State not OM

[somebodyshotmypaw]

The chance that Ealy signs in December is less than 1%. The chance that he signs in February is probably less than 30%. He will probably wait because a guy with his ability can do that. I think there is a chance that he signs a pro baseball contract but still plays college football. I don't expect it, but it is a possibility. I do think MSU has a better chance to get him than Ole Miss. But ultimately I expect him to go full time pro baseball. But there is a lot that can happen in the next several months (injuries, poor senior baseball season, scouts devaluing his baseball ability, etc.). So he is worth pursuing. I like our chances if Ealy decides to play ball in college.

[MetEdDawg]

Why would he not sign in February? He needs protection just in case he gets injured. Draft isn't until June. He would be extremely unwise to not sign in February. He could always sign, have access to college resources for a few months, then get drafted and leave.

[Cooterpoot]

Why would he not sign in February? He needs protection just in case he gets injured. Draft isn't until June. He would be extremely unwise to not sign in February. He could always sign, have access to college resources for a few months, then get drafted and leave.

If he signed in Feb, he wouldn't be on campus to use those resources. He wouldn't report til after the draft. Plus, he'd count against the numbers if he signed and then didn't show.

[MetEdDawg]

If he signed in Feb, he wouldn't be on campus to use those resources. He wouldn't report til after the draft. Plus, he'd count against the numbers if he signed and then didn't show.

Why wouldn't he be able to use the resources? Enroll in summer school on campus. He could start classes in June.

Draft is on June 3rd but who cares. He signs, he graduates high school towards the end of May, then boom he's got a month or so between the end of school and the time he has to declare.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I think he waits because he wants to keep all options open.

1. Play football in college.

2. Play baseball in college.

3. Play football and baseball in college.

4. Sign MLB contract but still play college football.

5. Sign MLB contract and play pro baseball full time.

It's about options and leverage. He is highly rated enough in football that teams will make a spot for him if he wants to play. And he doesn't really know himself if he will attend college until he sees how highly he is drafted, and by whom, and what type of money is offered.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Why wouldn't he be able to use the resources? Enroll in summer school on campus. He could start classes in June.

Draft is on June 3rd but who cares. He signs, he graduates high school towards the end of May, then boom he's got a month or so between the end of school and the time he has to declare.

He can still do all of that even if he doesn't sign. He can just enroll.

[MetEdDawg]

He can still do all of that even if he doesn't sign. He can just enroll.

Ok that's what I thought. So really there's no reason not to go ahead and sign in February. Just because you enroll in school doesn't mean you have to go. I would expect him to sign in February then. That how you are reading it?

[Leroy Jenkins]

I don't know what MLB team would risk a high draft pick on a player that plays an injury prone position like RB. If he gets drafted highly the team will want assurances he will play pro ball.

Conversations will be had prior to a team drafting him. They will want to know if he is planning on playing FB in college, it's not the best position to be in if he is trying to leverage a higher slot.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't know what MLB team would risk a high draft pick on a player that plays an injury prone position like RB. If he gets drafted highly the team will want assurances he will play pro ball.

Not sure why a team would risk a high pick on a baseball player after what Kyler Murray is about to do to Oakland

[Cooterpoot]

Ok that's what I thought. So really there's no reason not to go ahead and sign in February. Just because you enroll in school doesn't mean you have to go. I would expect him to sign in February then. That how you are reading it?

He gets what benefit by working out a couple weeks? None. Now, if he graduates early and enrolls for spring, then maybe. But really, he’s got access to whatever he needs anyway. There’s no benefit for him. It’ll be a moot point anyway. He’s never playing football or signing with us.

[MetEdDawg]

He gets what benefit by working out a couple weeks? None. Now, if he graduates early and enrolls for spring, then maybe. But really, he’s got access to whatever he needs anyway. There’s no benefit for him. It’ll be a moot point anyway. He’s never playing football or signing with us.

Let's say he's conditioning on his own one day after school gets out at the end of May and boom. Plants his foot wrong and he tears his ACL. If he's committed to MSU he INSTANTLY gets the full benefit of our medical staff and a backup plan in case his draft stock falls because of an injury that would keep him out of baseball for a year. If he commits nowhere, he's out of pocket for his medical expenses, OR he has to wait to get his surgery done until an MLB team drafts him and gives him access to their medical teams.

There is definitely a reason to sign, and that's just in case something crazy happens. I don't understand why people think it's bad for him to sign. Give me one reason he wouldn't sign. There's zero tying him to the university he signs with. Nothing.

[Cooterpoot]

He’d still get that. Signing has nothing to do with it though. And he can commit whenever he wants. It’s the signing he can’t do.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Let's say he's conditioning on his own one day after school gets out at the end of May and boom. Plants his foot wrong and he tears his ACL. If he's committed to MSU he INSTANTLY gets the full benefit of our medical staff and a backup plan in case his draft stock falls because of an injury that would keep him out of baseball for a year. If he commits nowhere, he's out of pocket for his medical expenses, OR he has to wait to get his surgery done until an MLB team drafts him and gives him access to their medical teams.

There is definitely a reason to sign, and that's just in case something crazy happens. I don't understand why people think it's bad for him to sign. Give me one reason he wouldn't sign. There's zero tying him to the university he signs with. Nothing.


From a MSU perspective, if he signs with State and doesn't play, it's a wasted scholly for the year, and potentially a contributor we could have signed in his place. Other than that, not much of an issue.

[NCDawg]

From a MSU perspective, if he signs with State and doesn't play, it's a wasted scholly for the year, and potentially a contributor we could have signed in his place. Other than that, not much of an issue.

Well worth taking a chance for the best RB in the state in my opinion.

[Cooterpoot]

Well worth taking a chance for the best RB in the state in my opinion.

Nobody is worth giving up a spot for. But we don’t have to worry about that.

[Todd4State]

Ealy is related to a MLB scout. I think he will get really good advice on what to do and how to handle his situation. Ole Miss will probably pay him to stay committed so that he can keep their ranking up in February even though it's unlikely he signs with them.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up signing with a MLB team and then playing college football in the fall. But that's just a guess.

[Homedawg]

From a MSU perspective, if he signs with State and doesn't play, it's a wasted scholly for the year, and potentially a contributor we could have signed in his place. Other than that, not much of an issue.

Our problem isn't the yearly limit it's the 85. So no not really. He doesn't take part in the 85 until he's on a scholarship

[msu15]

Nobody is worth giving up a spot for. But we don?t have to worry about that.

You are 100% wrong

[Cooterpoot]

You are 100% wrong

No, I’m not. Not when they can commit, wait on the draft, and then sign. And no first round pick is coming to play football. There won’t be an option from the MLB team on those guys. Not as a FR. Many years we struggle to be able to sign 25 and if you cut kids to do it and kids don’t show up, you fall behind in the 85. Then you have to find kids late and those kids aren’t who you need normally.

[Cooterpoot]

It’s amazing the work this staff is doing in recruiting. A commit next year from a kid that’s a great athlete, bringing in a P5 DL late, still going after the top in state kids committed other places. They work their asses off!

[MetEdDawg]

He?d still get that. Signing has nothing to do with it though. And he can commit whenever he wants. It?s the signing he can?t do.

Why can't he sign? All he has to do is drop out of school and go to his MLB team.

It's no question that him committing and leaving would make this really sucky for us. But I have to imagine our staff understands the risk with him signing if he did.

Last thing I saw had him ranked number 21, so I have to imagine we've been in contact with him and his family on the specifics of what it would take for him to go to the majors.

[Hambone]

Hey Cooter, what DL are you referencing or is this still under wraps?

[Cooterpoot]

Why can't he sign? All he has to do is drop out of school and go to his MLB team.

It's no question that him committing and leaving would make this really sucky for us. But I have to imagine our staff understands the risk with him signing if he did.

Last thing I saw had him ranked number 21, so I have to imagine we've been in contact with him and his family on the specifics of what it would take for him to go to the majors.

Because you lose that scholarship when he signs. Doesn?t matter if it?s MLB, Juco, etc. If he signs, that?s a spot now.

[MetEdDawg]

Because you lose that scholarship when he signs. Doesn?t matter if it?s MLB, Juco, etc. If he signs, that?s a spot now.

Exactly. So on his part there is zero loss. No reason not to sign because there's nothing he's tied to. And if there's even a remote possibility he might play football, a team will take him.

One scholarship loss to potentially get a kid like that on campus is worth it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Exactly. So on his part there is zero loss. No reason not to sign because there's nothing he's tied to. And if there's even a remote possibility he might play football, a team will take him.

One scholarship loss to potentially get a kid like that on campus is worth it.

The loss is for MSU. If he signs & he doesn't come to school you've thrown a scholarship in the trash for the 2019 class. If he doesn't sign & just enrolls you don't lose that spot.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

The loss is for MSU. If he signs & he doesn't come to school you've thrown a scholarship in the trash for the 2019 class. If he doesn't sign & just enrolls you don't lose that spot.

I don't expect him to sign in December or February with anyone. Do you agree with that IYOK?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I don't expect him to sign in December or February with anyone. Do you agree with that IYOK?

Is his stance on this not obvious??

[KOdawg1]

IYOK, Ari, and Cooter..

Updated percentage chance we get these guys:

Hall
Mingo
Turnage
Bedford
Moore
Washington
Emerson

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, Ari, and Cooter..

Updated percentage chance we get these guys:

Hall 20%
Mingo 30%
Turnage 0%
Bedford 75%
Moore 80%
Washington 80% if FSU Offers 10%
Emerson 50%

Best guess today

[msstate7]

Best guess today

Well what % you put on FSU offering?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well what % you put on FSU offering?

40%

[TALL DAWG]

Best guess today

Moore from Louisville is only 80%?
Thought he was 100%....

[HoopsDawg]

40%

What do you think about Byron Young?

[Hambone]

The reason they are changing their percentage on Moore is because no one knows for sure where an elite 18 year old prospect is going to do. I would also change Pickering to 75%. As long as these prospect are visiting, no one is 100%.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

https://twitter.com/7reasons1k/status/1073993622796857344?s=21
Jones is working on Plumlee now.



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9:30 AM - 15 Dec 2018 from Montgomery, AL

[msstate7]

https://twitter.com/7reasons1k/status/1073993622796857344?s=21
Jones is working on Plumlee now.

This is the guy I want us to work. Georgia offering a grey shirt may have cracked the door

[msstate7]

Is the miss-al game today? Televised?

[msbulldog]

Monday

[msbulldog]

Televised, yes check your local listings.

[KOdawg1]

Best guess today
What about Plumlee?

[Commercecomet24]

What do you think about Byron Young?

No chance on Byron.

[Rayburn8]

No chance on Byron.

Why is that? The 24/7 guys say things could open up with him.

He also apparently has a connection to Tony Hughes.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What do you think about Byron Young?

15%

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What about Plumlee?

If he wants to play QB 0% if he willing to play something else 40%

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

So the possible visitor this weekend could be Byron Young? It's a lot to ask, but could Tony Hughes gets anyone in the 2019 boat?

[Commercecomet24]

Why is that? The 24/7 guys say things could open up with him.

He also apparently has a connection to Tony Hughes.

I've known Byron a long time, chances are slim and none. Byron has his reasons trust me people have tried. He's interested in going out of state. Sorry that's the way it is. If joe flipped him it would be a Christmas miracle

ETA and I wished we could pull it off, just don't see it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So the possible visitor this weekend could be Byron Young? It's a lot to ask, but could Tony Hughes gets anyone in the 2019 boat?

No Byron Young is in Alabama for the MS/AL game. Brant Lawless is the kid on campus this weekend.

[Bothrops]

Is the miss-al game today? Televised?

Monday 6:30. WLBT if central MS.

[Irondawg]

Is DJ James going to Eddie Smith us?

[Hambone]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

[ShotgunDawg]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

Simmer down. Sheesh

[BeardoMSU]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

Well, the good news is we all get to commit seppuku afterwards**

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

No just no

[GreenheadDawg]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

Post less.

[msbulldog]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering


Go away, where's the enforcer?

[Commercecomet24]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

No no no no. Geez

[Homedawg]

The reason they are changing their percentage on Moore is because no one knows for sure where an elite 18 year old prospect is going to do. I would also change Pickering to 75%. As long as these prospect are visiting, no one is 100%.

There are a lot more variables w Moore than Pickering. Not the same. Although, the point about visiting is valid.

[Homedawg]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

Pickering doesn't fit in the same sentence. Is it possible? Sure anything is. Not likely I don't think.

[maroonmania]

delete

[Irondawg]

so back to the original concern - is Saban going to offer James?

[chef dixon]

Pickering about as dog as you can get

[BuckyIsAB****]

If he wants to play QB 0% if he willing to play something else 40%

I thought the word was we told him he would have a chance to play it

[Hambone]

It’s cool, I got blasted way back when I told y’all Emery wasn’t coming. Keep the maroon glasses on if you like. Ari, IYOK, Shotgun and others all said I was losing my mind. Pickering IS the outlier of the other four, however I don’t know how any of you can feel 100% confinement when they are on another schools campus.... CJ Johnson was as solid as they came too.......

[Doggie_Style]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

Your opinion but most think we are good with Pickering and James and in good shape wirh Moore...hard to say with Washington but I like our chances

[Hambone]

Simmer down. Sheesh

I?m sorry, is this the same Shotgun that was blasting our entire staff earlier in the season? Na, I?m entitled to my opinion (even if I?m dead wrong)

[ShotgunDawg]

I?m sorry, is this the same Shotgun that was blasting our entire staff earlier in the season? Na, I?m entitled to my opinion (even if I?m dead wrong)

I've not blasted the staff. I blast in-state recruits that leave & MSU supporters that sit on their hands & belittle our program.

I think this coaching staff is awesome at recruiting. Our fan base just needs to meet them halfway in how we LEGALLY support the program

[Cooterpoot]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

No chance that even comes close to happening.

[BeardoMSU]

Possible we lose DJ James, Darius Washington, Charles Moore and Nathan Pickering

You would love that, I'm sure....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYu0cMzZ-vA

[GeorgeKaplan]

[QUOTE=ShotgunDawg;1041861]I've not blasted the staff.

Um, you did.

[Hambone]

No, I absolutely hope we sign all 4 and add JRP and Ealy. I’m

[ShotgunDawg]

[QUOTE=ShotgunDawg;1041861]I've not blasted the staff.

Um, you did.

Perhaps our definitions of "blasted" are different.

[Doggie_Style]

Sounds like Bedford is headed to USCe....on a better note some think the chances of Cunningham qualifying are very good

[1bigdawg]

IYOK, Would you rather have Emerson or Plumlee if you had to choose?

[ShotgunDawg]

Sounds like Bedford is headed to USCe....on a better note some think the chances of Cunningham qualifying are very good

Between having to compete wit K Johnson & Cross, Bedford had an uphill battle at MSU to get on the field as an OT.

Cunningham & Pendley are more important to me since they can play guard

[ShotgunDawg]

Seems like there is some emerging optimism on Hall.

Anyone hearing anything?

[MetEdDawg]

I don't think we need another OL. We have some other need areas to fill I think. We could use another WR and obviously Mingo would be the guy we are looking to.

But there are going to be a lot of other targets out there based on some flipping that occurs before the early signing day. Could open up some options to is that might otherwise have not been open.

I think the one to watch is Turnage. Bama is still going after CBs. He needs to wait until after early signing day and see what Bama does in their secondary for recruiting. Might give us an opportunity to get him.

[Cooterpoot]

IYOK, Would you rather have Emerson or Plumlee if you had to choose?

Emerson is one of the more underrated commits we’ve got. But if Emerson were to fall out (I don’t think he will), I’d have no problem taking Plumlee.

[Cooterpoot]

Sounds like Bedford is headed to USCe....on a better note some think the chances of Cunningham qualifying are very good


Bedford sees too much competition here with the last couple commits. Always leery of the guys chasing the easiest road.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, Would you rather have Emerson or Plumlee if you had to choose?

Emerson. I think he's Taylor made for the nickel spot & terribly underrated.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I don't think we need another OL. We have some other need areas to fill I think. We could use another WR and obviously Mingo would be the guy we are looking to.

But there are going to be a lot of other targets out there based on some flipping that occurs before the early signing day. Could open up some options to is that might otherwise have not been open.

I think the one to watch is Turnage. Bama is still going after CBs. He needs to wait until after early signing day and see what Bama does in their secondary for recruiting. Might give us an opportunity to get him.

TJ Jones is a WR who will visit the last weekend before signing day.

Turnage is locked in with Bama he's going to Bama.

[MetEdDawg]

TJ Jones is a WR who will visit the last weekend before signing day.

Turnage is locked in with Bama he's going to Bama.

TJ Jones would be a good get.

That's a shame for Turnage. He's gonna be one of probably four freshmen CBs at Bama. Simple math says you play only 2 a good portion of the time with a few sets of 3 CBs. Considering Surtain Jr. has one of those spots locked up for the next 2 years you have to think best case scenario is not only are you 100% going to RS, but your first real chance to crack the 2 deep is as a RS sophomore. But realistically your first decent playing time will come as a junior, which would be his 4th year in college.

That's a less than ideal set up and would concern me greatly if I were him.

[Madisonmd]

Talked to a Pearl HS coach saturday night. He says J. Patterson has been dismissed from Jones CC and was booked on drug possession charges last week. Does not look like he will be in 2020 class

[HoopsDawg]

Talked to a Pearl HS coach saturday night. He says J. Patterson has been dismissed from Jones CC and was booked on drug possession charges last week. Does not look like he will be in 2020 class

With Anderson-Butts and Malik Heath it was going to be hard to take 3 Juco WRs anyway.

[ShotgunDawg]

Talked to a Pearl HS coach saturday night. He says J. Patterson has been dismissed from Jones CC and was booked on drug possession charges last week. Does not look like he will be in 2020 class

Stinks for him. MSU is recruiting over him anyway

[ShotgunDawg]

With Anderson-Butts and Malik Heath it was going to be hard to take 3 Juco WRs anyway.

Not to mention the two 4 star WRs already committed

[Cooterpoot]

Staff is filling holes in our past classes pretty well. Could use a good Juco DT, LB and HS WR. But if we can get Lawless, I’m good without the Juco DT.

[SmokeyDawg]

I can't find Lawless anywhere. Any more info on him?

[bobcat91]

Checked in short of 6'1 instead of 6'3. Pass

[ShotgunDawg]

Checked in short of 6'1 instead of 6'3. Pass

I don't understand how that happens.

I get it with a small town HS kid, but how does that happen with a kid that's been threw 2 recruiting cycles & visited numerous schools at this point?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Talked to a Pearl HS coach saturday night. He says J. Patterson has been dismissed from Jones CC and was booked on drug possession charges last week. Does not look like he will be in 2020 class

I told yall last year he would never make it to campus. Shame hes got SEC speed

[BuckyIsAB****]

I don't understand how that happens.

I get it with a small town HS kid, but how does that happen with a kid that's been threw 2 recruiting cycles & visited numerous schools at this point?

Who?

[ShotgunDawg]

Photo of Javonta Peyton misleading everyone this weekend about not visiting Tennessee (red jacket)

Needs to be dropped. JUCOs that do this aren't worth it or ready to contribute to a winning SEC team. He's a 3 star WR that barely contributed to his JUCO team this season.

I was all about his potential & ceiling, but if he isn't mature enough to be honest, he has no chance of helping us next year

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/742/897/8897742.png

[MetEdDawg]

Photo of Javonta Peyton misleading everyone this weekend about not visiting Tennessee (red jacket)

Needs to be dropped. JUCOs that do this aren't worth it or ready to contribute to a winning SEC team. He's a 3 star WR that barely contributed to his JUCO team this season.

I was all about his potential & ceiling, but if he isn't mature enough to be honest, he has no chance of helping us next year

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/742/897/8897742.png

Are you purposefully trying to sabotage our program or are you just that ignorant on the topic?

Doesn't look particularly excited to be there. Because you don't know the circumstances behind the visit you should keep your mouth shut.

[ShotgunDawg]

Are you purposefully trying to sabotage our program or are you just that ignorant on the topic?

I don't think you know what you're talking about here

[bulldawg28]

Photo of Javonta Peyton misleading everyone this weekend about not visiting Tennessee (red jacket)

Needs to be dropped. JUCOs that do this aren't worth it or ready to contribute to a winning SEC team. He's a 3 star WR that barely contributed to his JUCO team this season.

I was all about his potential & ceiling, but if he isn't mature enough to be honest, he has no chance of helping us next year

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/742/897/8897742.png

Dropped for taking the visit? Get real man it's a once-in-a chance lifetime visit.

[ShotgunDawg]

Dropped for taking the visit? Get real man it's a once-in-a chance lifetime visit.

Kid lied to everyone about it & was close to getting dropped anyway

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Shotgun...you're a clown.

[MetEdDawg]

I don't think you know what you're talking about here

Pretty sure it's you man. Should we drop every commit that doesn't sign during the early period? Get over yourself and your state pride bull crap. Kids are kids man. They do this. Get over it man.

If the staff wants him he stays. If not he gets dropped. So be it.

[GreenheadDawg]

Honestly if I had the chance I would have visited as many big programs as I could have. They won’t get the chance again.

[GreenheadDawg]

Were we expecting Pickering to sign in Dec.?

[Hambone]

No, he’s going to take all of his visits

[SmokeyDawg]

Were we expecting Pickering to sign in Dec.?

Yes. He was always going to take his visits

[Dawgfan77]

Pretty sure it's you man. Should we drop every commit that doesn't sign during the early period? Get over yourself and your state pride bull crap. Kids are kids man. They do this. Get over it man.

If the staff wants him he stays. If not he gets dropped. So be it.
I?m gonna take up for shotgun here. He and his dad told us he was not going to visit UT then showed up. Also there are concerns that he won?t get out in January

[MetEdDawg]

A Bama guy just tweeted about Pickering losing Hud as part of his recruitment and it being interesting to watch. Pickering tweeted "I wish Coach Hud and his family nothing but the best but...nope! #HailStateForever

Some of our fan base doesn't understand this generation of kids which means they don't understand recruiting.

[ShotgunDawg]

Pretty sure it's you man. Should we drop every commit that doesn't sign during the early period? Get over yourself and your state pride bull crap. Kids are kids man. They do this. Get over it man.

If the staff wants him he stays. If not he gets dropped. So be it.

Completely different to take visits & being honest about it.

[MetEdDawg]

I?m gonna take up for shotgun here. He and his dad told us he was not going to visit UT then showed up. Also there are concerns that he won?t get out in January


Here's the thing. You don't drop kids forntakikg visits. You drop them for the second part. He's a juco that may not get in early.

If shotgun had said that no one would have had a problem. But instead he said drop him taking a visit because he said he wouldn't. You don't do that crap

[ShotgunDawg]

Honestly if I had the chance I would have visited as many big programs as I could have. They won?t get the chance again.

Would you lie about it to the team you are committed too?

Also, what if this kid could get to campus till June?

[MetEdDawg]

Completely different to take visits & being honest about it.


So let's say the dad is the one that forced this and the kid didn't have a choice. You still cool with dropping him?

There would be a few other guys we got that we would have to retroactively drop for this crap too.

[ShotgunDawg]

A Bama guy just tweeted about Pickering losing Hud as part of his recruitment and it being interesting to watch. Pickering tweeted "I wish Coach Hud and his family nothing but the best but...nope! #HailStateForever

Some of our fan base doesn't understand this generation of kids which means they don't understand recruiting.

But here's the deal:

1. Pickering has been completely honest the entire time. He is invested in MSU.
2. Pickering is much much better prospect than Payton

Two completely different situations & maturity in the way it's being handled

[ShotgunDawg]

So let's say the dad is the one that forced this and the kid didn't have a choice. You still cool with dropping him?

There would be a few other guys we got that we would have to retroactively drop for this crap too.

I'm not going to argue with you about this. I wouldn't take the kid.

[MetEdDawg]

But here's the deal:

1. Pickering has been completely honest the entire time. He is invested in MSU.
2. Pickering is much much better prospect than Payton

Two completely different situations & maturity in the way it's being handled

I was reposnding to someone asking about Pickering. Not the Payton situation.

[Cooterpoot]

A Bama guy just tweeted about Pickering losing Hud as part of his recruitment and it being interesting to watch. Pickering tweeted "I wish Coach Hud and his family nothing but the best but...nope! #HailStateForever

Some of our fan base doesn't understand this generation of kids which means they don't understand recruiting.

Seattle down. He’s 100% MSU. Our fans need to let him have his fun. It’s all work once he signs with us.

[maroonmania]

I'm not going to argue with you about this. I wouldn't take the kid.

That's fine if YOU wouldn't but let's allow our coaches to handle this as they see fit. Sort of reminds me of when Rosebowl went on about us likely dropping Brandon Bryant when he unexpectedly took a visit to USM. Our coaches worked through it with him and we kept him in the boat. I'll just trust the coaches to handle this situation with Payton.

[Bothrops]

My instinct tells me to put 50/50 on anybody that isn't signing this week. And for that I do. Visits are cool, but I personally don't buy the need to go everywhere before I sign crap. Why subject yourself to the pressure, the hemming and hawing of other people trying to get you to think like them. Especially with UT and Nick bastard Saban in the same neighborhood. Paint my face skeptical.

[Doggie_Style]

That's fine if YOU wouldn't but let's allow our coaches to handle this as they see fit. Sort of reminds me of when Rosebowl went on about us likely dropping Brandon Bryant when he unexpectedly took a visit to USM. Our coaches worked through it with him and we kept him in the boat. I'll just trust the coaches to handle this situation with Payton.

I think the bigger issue is that he will not graduate until May, missing all of the spring. That?s a major reason we dropped M. Richardson. He may not be a take at this point.

[1bigdawg]

My instinct tells me to put 50/50 on anybody that isn't signing this week. And for that I do. Visits are cool, but I personally don't buy the need to go everywhere before I sign crap. Why subject yourself to the pressure, the hemming and hawing of other people trying to get you to think like them. Especially with UT and Nick bastard Saban in the same neighborhood. Paint my face skeptical.

For the fun of it???

[Doggie_Style]

My instinct tells me to put 50/50 on anybody that isn't signing this week. And for that I do. Visits are cool, but I personally don't buy the need to go everywhere before I sign crap. Why subject yourself to the pressure, the hemming and hawing of other people trying to get you to think like them. Especially with UT and Nick bastard Saban in the same neighborhood. Paint my face skeptical.

Ditto

[BuckyIsAB****]

Kid lied to everyone about it & was close to getting dropped anyway

Easy killer. Hope he doesnt see that

[Cooterpoot]

You guys do understand that until the Dec. early date started, all these guys got to take visits til Feb? It’s just the way things are now. This isn’t new. The early signing date is.

[HoopsDawg]

I'm not going to argue with you about this. I wouldn't take the kid.

I agree with you. Especially since he's not a December grad.

[Cooterpoot]

The problem some kids have to realize, is they can be replaced if they aren’t top end guys. It’s not hard to find a 3 star OL or a mediocre WR. We can, and will find guys like them.

[Doggie_Style]

You guys do understand that until the Dec. early date started, all these guys got to take visits til Feb? It?s just the way things are now. This isn?t new. The early signing date is.

He?s a JUCO guy with 2 years left...most programs want those guys on campus in January

[BuckyIsAB****]

I agree with you. Especially since he's not a December grad.

Hes got a lot of ability. I dont think you throw the kid away for that. Obviously if he is a grade issue or if he cant make it to spring then that makes it easier but I wouldnt pull that trigger over this

[MetEdDawg]

I think the bigger issue is that he will not graduate until May, missing all of the spring. That?s a major reason we dropped M. Richardson. He may not be a take at this point.

Here's the thing. I don't think any of us, including myself, would have a problem with staff dropping Payton because he wouldn't be done until May.

Shotgun said drop him because he said he wouldn't take a visit anywhere else and he did. That I have a problem with. Like I said, there's a few kids that have really meant a lot to our program over the years that we would have to have dropped because of that. It wasn't a smart statement. But again, if someone suggested that we drop him because he isn't a January enrollee, then that makes total sense. But for taking a visit when he said he wouldn't? That's just really not smart.

[bobcat91]

Washington was at FSU on an unofficial and he did not get an offer at this point. His status is in trouble.

Emerson went on an official to Miami. He said he is going to GT and Virginia in January.

Both of these guys and Payton may get voted off the island

[NCDawg]

Seattle down. He?s 100% MSU. Our fans need to let him have his fun. It?s all work once he signs with us.

He may be 100% MSU, but it would be nice to have him sign in December and be an influence on some of our other signees.

[BankerDog]

Washington was at FSU on an unofficial and he did not get an offer at this point. His status is in trouble.

Emerson went on an official to Miami. He said he is going to GT and Virginia in January.

Both of these guys and Payton may get voted off the island

Emerson and Washington will not be ?voted? off an island. Those are the two most underrated commitments we have. Those two aren?t just depth guys, they?re future starters.

[Cooterpoot]

He?s a JUCO guy with 2 years left...most programs want those guys on campus in January

I?m not concerned with Payton. He?s easily replaceable. I?m talking Washington and Pickering etc.

[bobcat91]

Emerson and Washington will not be ?voted? off an island. Those are the two most underrated commitments we have. Those two aren?t just depth guys, they?re future starters.

They are looking to go elsewhere. They may get their wish. Washington will bolt the minute FSU says he has a spot. That's why even with no other visits, he is not signing early. If Banda stays at Miami ss DC, Emerson is gone. It's not that hard to understand.

[Cooterpoot]

He may be 100% MSU, but it would be nice to have him sign in December and be an influence on some of our other signees.

He?s our 2nd biggest recruiter behind JJ. Recruits know what he?s doing. It?s our fans that are stupid.

[Cooterpoot]

Emerson and Washington will not be ?voted? off an island. Those are the two most underrated commitments we have. Those two aren?t just depth guys, they?re future starters.

Washington? He’s a project. But we’ve let Bedford go, so he’s more important now unless we’ve got somebody on deck. Emerson is not replaceable.

[ShotgunDawg]

Here's the thing. I don't think any of us, including myself, would have a problem with staff dropping Payton because he wouldn't be done until May.

Shotgun said drop him because he said he wouldn't take a visit anywhere else and he did. That I have a problem with. Like I said, there's a few kids that have really meant a lot to our program over the years that we would have to have dropped because of that. It wasn't a smart statement. But again, if someone suggested that we drop him because he isn't a January enrollee, then that makes total sense. But for taking a visit when he said he wouldn't? That's just really not smart.

No Shotgun took into account the fact the he's not that good, won't be here till Summer, and lied about visiting somewhere else. Collectively, those three things are the reason I'd drop him.

[chef dixon]

Early signing period hasn't been in existence long enough to know trends of what it means if someone does not sign early

[Homedawg]

I think the bigger issue is that he will not graduate until May, missing all of the spring. That?s a major reason we dropped M. Richardson. He may not be a take at this point.

No. The major reason we didn't take richardson is bc he our staff didn't think he could play. That's a fact.

[MetEdDawg]

Photo of Javonta Peyton misleading everyone this weekend about not visiting Tennessee (red jacket)

Needs to be dropped. JUCOs that do this aren't worth it or ready to contribute to a winning SEC team. He's a 3 star WR that barely contributed to his JUCO team this season.

I was all about his potential & ceiling, but if he isn't mature enough to be honest, he has no chance of helping us next year

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Read your own words again Shotgun. Anyone that reads this would berybclearly think you are saying he should be dropped because he wasn't honest. Because that's what you said.

[Cowbell]

He may be 100% MSU, but it would be nice to have him sign in December and be an influence on some of our other signees.

It would be nice if grown men would understand these kids only have one chance in life to enjoy the events they are experiencing and some want to make the most of it.

[maroonmania]

He?s a JUCO guy with 2 years left...most programs want those guys on campus in January

He has only been committed to us a few weeks. We didn't take his commitment with the knowledge that he was unlikely to be or even wouldn't be a Dec grad? That makes no sense to me if our staff is doing their homework.

[Cowbell]

Read your own words again Shotgun. Anyone that reads this would berybclearly think you are saying he should be dropped because he wasn't honest. Because that's what you said.

That’s exactly what he said. Somebody who spends most of their life on a message board is making judgemental decisions about 17-18 yr old kids. We were all that age once. We were all immature. We were all influenced by others. Most of us were probably dishonest at some point.

Shotgun you need to back off these kids. Your attitude and negative comments are not representative of good fan support and good support of young men in general (and we all get like this from time to time including me). Unless you are a 16 yr old sitting at that keyboard, you are the one being immature.

[BuckyIsAB****]

They are looking to go elsewhere. They may get their wish. Washington will bolt the minute FSU says he has a spot. That's why even with no other visits, he is not signing early. If Banda stays at Miami ss DC, Emerson is gone. It's not that hard to understand.

Cant lose Emerson. You dont get 6'2 185 CBs out of HS very often

[Doggie_Style]

He has only been committed to us a few weeks. We didn't take his commitment with the knowledge that he was unlikely to be or even wouldn't be a Dec grad? That makes no sense to me if our staff is doing their homework.

Go back and read Paul?s article after hs commitment is.....he was expected to enroll in January....Payton was the one who didn?t do his homework...his grades likly just came out

[maroonmania]

Go back and read Paul?s article after hs commitment is.....he was expected to enroll in January....Payton was the one who didn?t do his homework...his grades likly just came out

So our coaching staff has no way to see in mid-November if a guy is on track to pass his semester courses needed to graduate? Would have thought we would have improved things on this front after the mess we got into with the EMCC players (Rivers and Cole). Of course with the redshirting we've been doing with JUCO players lately I'm not sure how imperative it is that they get out in December.

[Todd4State]

So our coaching staff has no way to see in mid-November if a guy is on track to pass his semester courses needed to graduate? Would have thought we would have improved things on this front after the mess we got into with the EMCC players (Rivers and Cole). Of course with the redshirting we've been doing with JUCO players lately I'm not sure how imperative it is that they get out in December.

I felt like Dan trying to get them out so early is what messed them up. And wasn't there some issues on EMCC's end?

You never know about people. He could have tanked his finals. If a player is in JUCO they probably didn't have very many Ivy League offers coming out of high school to say the least.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I felt like Dan trying to get them out so early is what messed them up. And wasn't there some issues on EMCC's end?

You never know about people. He could have tanked his finals. If a player is in JUCO they probably didn't have very many Ivy League offers coming out of high school to say the least.

The issue was entirely on EMCC's end if I remember correctly. Something about Rivers taking too many hours during the summer. Finally got screwed by the Dontae Jones Rule

[Scared_Hitless]

Are we still pursuing a Grad Transfer QB or is that not happening now?

[HoopsDawg]

Are we still pursuing a Grad Transfer QB or is that not happening now?

Jalen Hurts

[msstate7]

Jalen Hurts

Hail Mary. Would that actually be worth publically trying? You'd give key another down vote for a no shot deal

[Scared_Hitless]

I just wanna roll with Key but I understand he is limited in some respects same as Fitz. I know Joe's job is to win so I will support whoever.

[msu15]

Hail Mary. Would that actually be worth publically trying? You'd give key another down vote for a no shot deal

I'll be disappointed in Joe if he doesn't pursue Jalen.

[KOdawg1]

Can Saban block a grad transfer? Gotta believe he'll try his hardest to keep that from happening if he can.

I think Hurts would succeed greatly in Joe's offense.

[Scared_Hitless]

Can Saban block a grad transfer? Gotta believe he'll try his hardest to keep that from happening if he can.

I think Hurts would succeed greatly in Joe's offense.

Can't do anything to a Grad Transfer, Saban will have alot of influence on his decision though. Sure they still have a good relationship.

[Irondawg]

so as of Monday how do we feel about our CB class? A bit worried on Brooks (ARK), Emerson (MIA) and James (BAMA)

[Cooterpoot]

I'll be disappointed in Joe if he doesn't pursue Jalen.

Be ready to be disappointed. He?s not much different than what we?ve got and he?s not playing against Bama.

[msu15]

Be ready to be disappointed. He?s not much different than what we?ve got and he?s not playing against Bama.

My reaction has no effect on if we get him or not, but you absolutely have to reach out.

[Scared_Hitless]

So is Derrick Hall a lost cause at this point? Looks like Auburn or Ole Miss turned the tide with him cancelling his OV.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

So is Derrick Hall a lost cause at this point? Looks like Auburn or Ole Miss turned the tide with him cancelling his OV.

yep... D Hart, Yancy, and DJ made their predictions. It is over fellas*****

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Checked in short of 6'1 instead of 6'3. Pass

yes those two inches really make a difference...smh

[msstate7]

yes those two inches really make a difference...smh

That's what I tell my wife all the time. She says they matter though

[bobcat91]

yes those two inches really make a difference...smh

So he is almost 3 inches shorter than advertised and has had issues with entering UT and UNC. But yeah but by all means keep chasing him. This is Quay part 2. Pass

[Hambone]

Quay or TD Moton?