2019 Recruiting Thread

[msbulldog]

2020 4 star center commits to MSU BB.

https://247sports.com/Player/Bayron-Matos-46057274/

[HoopsDawg]

Hopefully Cross and Payton had a good time tonight.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

2020 4 star center commits to MSU BB.

https://247sports.com/Player/Bayron-Matos-46057274/

Elias King as well

[Ari Gold]

We should all give a HUGE thank you and well done to Coach Austin, he was the main reason we closed that 2017 juco class. Would be great to get this guy back ..
Abram
Landrews
Cole
Sweat
Rivers

[msbulldog]

We should all give a HUGE thank you and well done to Coach Austin, he was the main reason we closed that 2017 juco class. Would be great to get this guy back ..
Abram
Landrews
Cole
Sweat
Rivers

Totally agree!

[HoopsDawg]

We should all give a HUGE thank you and well done to Coach Austin, he was the main reason we closed that 2017 juco class. Would be great to get this guy back ..
Abram
Landrews
Cole
Sweat
Rivers

Why the hell isnt he on our staff still?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Why the hell isnt he on our staff still?

It's his fault & I'll leave it at that

[Ari Gold]

It's his fault & I'll leave it at that

Yes and no.. I will leave it at that as well.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yes and no.. I will leave it at that as well.

Fair enough

[Bass Chaser]

Do you see him back on staff in the future?

[msbulldog]

It's his fault & I'll leave it at that

Calloway?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Mullen gave Sirmon credit for closing that juco class hahahahahahahaha

What game did John Emery go to this weekend?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Mullen gave Sirmon credit for closing that juco class hahahahahahahaha

What game did John Emery go to this weekend?

No need to keep up with Emery he's not coming to MSU.

[ShotgunDawg]

No need to keep up with Emery he's not coming to MSU.

I feel like we were a pawn in that deal to put pressure on LSU boosters and never really had a chance at him.

Hopefully, the coaches improve at sniffing those situations out early so it doesn't cost us other good players that would could've been recruiting instead.

I feel like Huff came in with a bunch of confidence in recruiting without really understanding the landscape of recruiting down here.

Hopefully this was a learning experience for all involved or perhaps I'm way off base

[Cooterpoot]

Cecil Newton negotiating going on with Emery.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I feel like we were a pawn in that deal to put pressure on LSU boosters and never really had a chance at him.

Hopefully, the coaches improve at sniffing those situations out early so it doesn't cost us other good players that would could've been recruiting instead.

I feel like Huff came in with a bunch of confidence in recruiting without really understanding the landscape of recruiting down here.

Hopefully this was a learning experience for all involved or perhaps I'm way off base

Huff has been in the SEC so he knows the lay of the land. If Emery never puts it out that he's committing on his bday &
Just commits he would've been a MSU Commit. Now In the end it may not have stuck but he definitely was feeling MSU at 1 point. That point has passed.

[Bully13]

Cecil Newton negotiating going on with Emery.

I remember that song that LSU dude wrote "Gonna take 100 Grand to get the son of a Preacher Man" funny as shit.

[Bothrops]

Cecil Newton negotiating going on with Emery.

This would be correct

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Huff has been in the SEC so he knows the lay of the land. If Emery never puts it out that he's committing on his bday &
Just commits he would've been a MSU Commit. Now In the end it may not have stuck but he definitely was feeling MSU at 1 point. That point has passed.

Not so sure it's completely passed

[sscjr1]

Not so sure it's completely passed
Please don?t

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Please don?t

Ok then.....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not so sure it's completely passed

Oh really?

[Bully13]

IYOK more times than not along with a couple others has the best info. Whose our main target now and could there be any surprises if we finish strong?

[Todd4State]

I remember that song that LSU dude wrote "Gonna take 100 Grand to get the son of a Preacher Man" funny as shit.

Doug Buckles Dad was also a minister. Just saying.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK more times than not along with a couple others has the best info. Whose our main target now and could there be any surprises if we finish strong?

Main target at what position?

[Coursesuper]

Main target at what position?

RB, WR, OL.

[Homedawg]

Ok then.....

ship has sailed. We aren't getting him. Move on

[BiscuitEater]

Huff has been in the SEC so he knows the lay of the land. If Emery never puts it out that he's committing on his bday &
Just commits he would've been a MSU Commit. Now In the end it may not have stuck but he definitely was feeling MSU at 1 point. That point has passed.

In his 13+ years of coaching, he has been in the SEC ~ONE year and that was at Vandy under Franklin. He IMMEDIATELY left for the Bills. Sorry, for all the hype around Huff and RB recruiting, it does NOT 'appear' to be making progress in one of our BIGGEST areas of need. MSU has historically recruited really good RBS in a run oriented O.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

RB, WR, OL.

RB - Ealy, Witherspoon

WR - Payton, Mingo, Drummond (no offer)

OL - Cross, Pendley, Griffin, Cunningham, Felix, Olaseni, Ike

[msu15]

RB - Ealy, Witherspoon

WR - Payton, Mingo, Drummond (no offer)

OL - Cross, Pendley, Griffin, Cunningham, Felix, Olaseni, Ike

Think we got a realistic shot at Payton?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Think we got a realistic shot at Payton?

Yea we do but it's going to be a battle with TN.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

RB - Ealy, Witherspoon

WR - Payton, Mingo, Drummond (no offer)

OL - Cross, Pendley, Griffin, Cunningham, Felix, Olaseni, Ike

Devanta Lee was at the game Saturday but I just don't see us pulling that 1 off.

[NCDawg]

RB - Ealy, Witherspoon

WR - Payton, Mingo, Drummond (no offer)

OL - Cross, Pendley, Griffin, Cunningham, Felix, Olaseni, Ike

Right now, I think Ealy is our biggest need. If he goes the baseball route, so be it, but I'm not sure that he will.

[Doggie_Style]

Think we got a realistic shot at Payton?

I think we are #2 behind Tennessee...he's from Nashville

[Cooterpoot]

Right now, I think Ealy is our biggest need. If he goes the baseball route, so be it, but I'm not sure that he will.

Baseball is already a done deal for him barring injury. Trust me on that one.

[msstate7]

If we end up just signing Witherspoon, it will be the first time since 2011 that we didn't sign a 4-star rb in a class that had a rb. 2011 was josh Robinson though, so there's that. What is insurance policy if we don't sign Witherspoon? We've gotta get a rb

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If we end up just signing Witherspoon, it will be the first time since 2011 that we didn't sign a 4-star rb in a class that had a rb. 2011 was josh Robinson though, so there's that. What is insurance policy if we don't sign Witherspoon? We've gotta get a rb

We didn't sign a 4* last year.

[msstate7]

We didn't sign a 4* last year.

We didn't sign a rb

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We didn't sign a rb

La'Damian Webb

[msstate7]

La'Damian Webb

Ok, signed a rb that actually made it to campus

[bulldawg28]

Ok, signed a rb that actually made it to campus

Moving target huh?

[msstate7]

Moving target huh?

Haha, I guess. I don't count guys that aren't on the team as part of our signing classes

We got 2 of the best WRs in the state last season.... only they aren't on the team

[Commercecomet24]

Baseball is already a done deal for him barring injury. Trust me on that one.

Y'all listen to Cooter on this. He(they)been counting on the mlb draft for awhile now.

[bulldawg28]

Haha, I guess. I don't count guys that aren't on the team as part of our signing classes

We got 2 of the best WRs in the state last season.... only they aren't on the team

Lol... keep them on their toes.

[Really Clark?]

OT Jones decommits from Tulane...been here a lot this season

[msstate7]

Delete

[Bully13]

OT Jones decommits from Tulane...been here a lot this season

Tons of OT's with the last name Jones. thanks a lot for the update. woulda taken 2 secs for a first name. yea, I Know, I'm being a lazy asshole.

[GreenheadDawg]

Tons of OT's with the last name Jones. thanks a lot for the update. woulda taken 2 secs for a first name. yea, I Know, I'm being a lazy asshole.

OT from Birmingham. Weighs 260 pounds with offers from the Delta State’s of the world. #killingit

[Really Clark?]

Tons of OT's with the last name Jones. thanks a lot for the update. woulda taken 2 secs for a first name. yea, I Know, I'm being a lazy asshole.

Brevyn Jones

[Cooterpoot]

Going to see lots of OL offers. We’ve got to take what we can get with early signing a month away.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Going to see lots of OL offers. We’ve got to take what we can get with early signing a month away.

Things have picked up with Cross. That 1 isn't over by a long shot.

[Commercecomet24]

Things have picked up with Cross. That 1 isn't over by a long shot.

You are correct sir! JoMo had a nice visit down here a couple weeks ago.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You are correct sir! JoMo had a nice visit down here a couple weeks ago.

There are a few highly recruited instate kids that folks had written off that could end up in this class.

[Commercecomet24]

There are a few highly recruited instate kids that folks had written off that could end up in this class.

Good stuff!

[Ari Gold]

OL Charles Cross is far from over..

Bump.

[Cooterpoot]

Things have picked up with Cross. That 1 isn't over by a long shot.

With FSU struggling, maybe. But I haven’t talked to his family lately. Last word I got is it’s FSU unless something big happens. I’ll see if I catch up with them.

[ShotgunDawg]

There are a few highly recruited instate kids that folks had written off that could end up in this class.

Which in-state recruits would you say we have a least 40% chance of getting?

[Doggie_Style]

Which in-state recruits would you say we have a 40% chance of getting?

Cross, Hall, Mingo

[ShotgunDawg]

Cross, Hall, Mingo

I think those three are obvious though.

I don't think anyone had written off those 3. I wonder if there is someone else that would be a little surprising?

[msstate7]

Cross, Hall, Mingo

Those 3 would change my whole complexion of this class. Getting a big time HS RB would be absolutely vital next year though... probably need a good juco RB also

[ZedFedder]

Joe just tweeted the ring the bell tweet. Who is it?

[Doggie_Style]

I think those three are obvious though.

I don't think anyone had written off those 3. I wonder if there is someone else that would be a little surprising?

you said 40%.....those three are the only ones who fit that criteria and are all at positions of need

[Doggie_Style]

Witherspoon or Jones? (committed)

[Doggie_Style]

Brevyn Jones...OL

[ZedFedder]

Brevyn Jones it is

[Cooterpoot]

I'd say Hall is more like 60%.

[Commercecomet24]

I'd say Hall is more like 60%.

You are way more in the know than me, but I've heard some good stuff trending our way about Hall in the last 2 weeks.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

https://247sports.com/Player/Brevyn-Jones-46051839/

So, based on his offers and lack of size I'm assuming he's more of a "hope he grows into his body" than a stud. I'm not opposed to that, many great OL are late bloomers. Anyone in the know have more info that his 247 page gives? How athletic is he? Is he smart? new to the position? have a good frame he can put muscle on? Because his 247 makes him look like he's a middling Sun belt talent

[Bully13]

https://247sports.com/Player/Brevyn-Jones-46051839/

So, based on his offers and lack of size I'm assuming he's more of a "hope he grows into his body" than a stud. I'm not opposed to that, many great OL are late bloomers. Anyone in the know have more info that his 247 page gives? How athletic is he? Is he smart? new to the position? have a good frame he can put muscle on? Because his 247 makes him look like he's a middling Sun belt talent

I think he's got an offer from Cornell, so yea, dude's prolly damned smart. I'm thinking the coaches are thinking he can contribute in 2 years or so after he bulks up. I do like smart OL's though. Maybe he can become a Kent Hull type center for us one day.

[Commercecomet24]

I think he's got an offer from Cornell, so yea, dude's prolly damned smart. I'm thinking the coaches are thinking he can contribute in 2 years or so after he bulks up. I do like smart OL's though. Maybe he can become a Kent Hull type center for us one day.

Yeah you know if he can get in Cornell he's pretty dang intelligent. He plays at a 7A school from Birmingham so the level of competition is pretty high. I'm sure he's a project but so was Elgton, Day, Beckwith, Clausell and some others in recent memory. Time will tell.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am excited to get this guy. He looks to be pretty smart, except he has an offer to go to Cornell free ride and didn't accept it. This could pay off in the long run when his weight catches up to his height. Hopefully we can get him in and add about 30 lbs of muscle to the frame.

[Lance Harbor]

Moorhead better hope Andy Bernard doesn't come in with the hard close late. #Nard-Dog


I am excited to get this guy. He looks to be pretty smart, except he has an offer to go to Cornell free ride and didn't accept it. This could pay off in the long run when his weight catches up to his height. Hopefully we can get him in and add about 30 lbs of muscle to the frame.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

He's kinda like a Marcus Johnson Duke recruit

[Bully13]

He actually has an academic scholly offer to Cornell? I thought the Ivy League didn't offer athletic schollies, amirite?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

If he's really smart that's a definite edge. Like you say Bully, give him 2-3 years in the weight room and he'll be 6-4 300 lb and smart enough to play C and help with protections/communication. I have no idea what his foot speed is or whether he has that "meanness" factor OL need, but him being smart definitely adds to his potential upside after he develops. Recruiting sites tends to overvalue the "can play immediately" aspect of OL. Even if a guy is in shape he won't play for 1-2 years, and in that time a smaller guy can fill out. yet the composite will favor the big guy by .04 or so based on nothing else.

[ShotgunDawg]

He's kinda like a Marcus Johnson Duke recruit

While those guys many times may lack ceiling, they usually have a really high floor.

Perhaps taking kids like this guy allows you to mitigate your risk in recruiting when you take the super raw, projects

[Commercecomet24]

I wonder if we are looking to make him a center. He just doesn't appear to have the length to stay at tackle. He's about the same size as Elgton was coming out of high school.

[ShotgunDawg]

I wonder if we are looking to make him a center. He just doesn't appear to have the length to stay at tackle. He's about the same size as Elgton was coming out of high school.

He looks long on film. Looks like a tackle to me.

I wonder if he's really taller than 6'4". On his HUDL account, he list himself as 6'5"

Check out his video vs Pinson Valley. He looks like tackle here IMO

http://www.hudl.com/profile/7184422/Brevyn-Jones

[MetEdDawg]

This signing to me is exactly what I think we are going to see as far as change in recruiting strategy. Mullen missed on guys, but then our backup plans didn't always make sense. They were reaches or just in state guys that just didn't fit.

This kid fits what we think Moorhead is. The more cerebral type that goes after high IQ guys. If this kid has an offer from Cornell and he's going to Huffman, then he's a smart kid. I think what Shotgun said was right. Has the ability to have a higher floor because he may be able to pick up the offense concept more easily. So it might be a miss, but it may be a miss that we can use to our advantage if he's the right player.

[Commercecomet24]

He looks long on film. Looks like a tackle to me.

I wonder if he's really taller than 6'4"

Could be but most of the time these profiles actually list them taller than they actually are. That being said his profile may not have been updated for a year or so and he may actually be taller. He's apparently a very smart young man, who plays 7A football in alabama, hope he's a sleeper and turns out like some of our others. We seem to have more success with the lower rated OL's than the higher rated ones.

[TNDawg35]

Moorhead better hope Andy Bernard doesn't come in with the hard close late. #Nard-Dog

Easy big Tuna...

[Doggie_Style]

Could be but most of the time these profiles actually list them taller than they actually are. That being said his profile may not have been updated for a year or so and he may actually be taller. He's apparently a very smart young man, who plays 7A football in alabama, hope he's a sleeper and turns out like some of our others. We seem to have more success with the lower rated OL's than the higher rated ones.

In the last 5 cycles we have recruited 2 low rated guys that turned out great (Calhoun .796, Jenkins .81). The lowest rated guy was a bust (Cochran .76). Our highest rated is now in the NFL (Rankin .91). Other highly rated guys have done well for us (D. Williams .88, S. Reese .88). I expect Dolla Bill (.90) will do well also.

[Bully13]

In the last 5 cycles we have recruited 2 low rated guys that turned out great (Calhoun .796, Jenkins .81). The lowest rated guy was a bust (Cochran .76). Our highest rated is now in the NFL (Rankin .91). Other highly rated guys have done well for us (D. Williams .88, S. Reese .88). I expect Dolla Bill (.90) will do well also.

what's the word on Dolla these days? does he make the 2 deep next year? what's his real name again?

[Doggie_Style]

what's the word on Dolla these days? does he make the 2 deep next year? what's his real name again?

Let's hope so. We lose at least 3 starters. Kwatrivous Johnson.....so yea Dolla Bill!

[Homedawg]

Cross, Hall, Mingo

i think we get hall.

[Commercecomet24]

In the last 5 cycles we have recruited 2 low rated guys that turned out great (Calhoun .796, Jenkins .81). The lowest rated guy was a bust (Cochran .76). Our highest rated is now in the NFL (Rankin .91). Other highly rated guys have done well for us (D. Williams .88, S. Reese .88). I expect Dolla Bill (.90) will do well also.

Yep you are right about that. I guess i was thinking back to the Jake Thomas, Kent Flowers, Damien Robinson days and then the lower rated guys that turned out way better than those types.

[NCDawg]

Yep you are right about that. I guess i was thinking back to the Jake Thomas, Kent Flowers, Damien Robinson days and then the lower rated guys that turned out way better than those types.

Don't forget Joey Trapp. I think Damien Robinson was rated a 5 star at one time. I also think Champion was a 4 star coming out of high school.

[bulldawg28]

He looks long on film. Looks like a tackle to me.

I wonder if he's really taller than 6'4". On his HUDL account, he list himself as 6'5"

Check out his video vs Pinson Valley. He looks like tackle here IMO

http://www.hudl.com/profile/7184422/Brevyn-Jones

He's a legit 6'5

[Doggie_Style]

Robinson was a 4 star and Champion was a 3 star....nobody is suggesting that the rating system is a perfect indicator of production but it would be great to land a 4 star recruit like Cross in every class

[Commercecomet24]

Robinson was a 4 star and Champion was a 3 star....nobody is suggesting that the rating system is a perfect indicator of production but it would be great to land a 4 star recruit like Cross in every class

Yeah if we could add some legitimate blue chippers to the successful developmental OL's we have had, would be great!

[Ari Gold]

Let's hope so. We lose at least 3 starters. Kwatrivous Johnson.....so yea Dolla Bill!

We only lose 2 unless Daryl Williams declares early.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We only lose 2 unless Daryl Williams declares early.

He's not expected to.

[Doggie_Style]

We only lose 2 unless Daryl Williams declares early.

That's true...I was assuming Williams would give the draft a look...maybe not. With all of the recent offers out at OL, how many do ya'll think we take in December? As many as 6 -7?

[Ari Gold]

That's true...I was assuming Williams would give the draft a look...maybe not. With all of the recent offers out at OL, how many do ya'll think we take in December? As many as 6 -7?

5-7 sounds right , I still think if we can land Cross and one more guy high on the board we will cut bait with Richardson.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I expect 6 OL in this class when everything finishes.

[Bully13]

I expect 6 OL in this class when everything finishes.

Can you give us who you think they'll be?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Can you give us who you think they'll be?

Give me a couple weeks to think about it. Some guys we are doing well with are Charles Cross, Luke Griffin, Nick Pendley, Dawond Jones & I'm sure we'll keep some other guys on the board. Really only need 2 more but 1 of them really needs to be Cross.

[Ari Gold]

Give me a couple weeks to think about it. Some guys we are doing well with are Charles Cross, Luke Griffin, Nick Pendley, Dawond Jones & I'm sure we'll keep some other guys on the board. Really only need 2 more but 1 of them really needs to be Cross.

Agree, and I think if we get any 2 of these we cut bait with Richardson

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

He's not expected to.

I just don't believe he will stay. He's a top 3 OG nationally and some have listed him as #1. Plays in the SEC West...I expect to lose him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I just don't believe he will stay. He's a top 3 OG nationally and some have listed him as #1. Plays in the SEC West...I expect to lose him.

That's for the 2020 draft class not this year.

[maroonmania]

With FSU struggling, maybe. But I haven?t talked to his family lately. Last word I got is it?s FSU unless something big happens. I?ll see if I catch up with them.

Struggling indeed. If he goes to FSU and they have a year next year anything like this year then he will likely be going through a coaching change following his true freshman season. I just don't see FSU putting up with a coach that hands them consecutive losing seasons.

[Doggie_Style]

Yancy CB's Cross to the good guys...I like it

[ShotgunDawg]

Yancy CB's Cross to the good guys...I like it

Would be the most impressive recruiting job by the new staff thus far.

If it happens, it would show that they can stick with a premium prospect that did not grow up an MSU fan for the long haul & find a way to get him. If they pull this off, it's going to give me real optimism about their future recruiting. Would be impressive

[Cooterpoot]

I wish we could convince Young. At least convince him to wait and hopefully have Hughes on board to work him. Young with Pickering would continue our DL dominance.

[BankerDog]

I wish we could convince Young. At least convince him to wait and hopefully have Hughes on board to work him. Young with Pickering would continue our DL dominance.

Slight highjack, excuse me guys, but Cooter or IYOK or Ari..what are the odds we get Hughes a job in the recruiting office? Would be nice to get him back in Starkville. Wouldn?t mind seeing Melvin back in that capacity either as well as bringing Banks and Bumphis back as GAs.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Slight highjack, excuse me guys, but Cooter or IYOK or Ari..what are the odds we get Hughes a job in the recruiting office? Would be nice to get him back in Starkville. Wouldn?t mind seeing Melvin back in that capacity either as well as bringing Banks and Bumphis back as GAs.

Extremely high on Hughes. I'm good on Melvin but Banks will be on the recruiting staff in a year or so.

[Commercecomet24]

I wish we could convince Young. At least convince him to wait and hopefully have Hughes on board to work him. Young with Pickering would continue our DL dominance.

Young's commitment is wavering but not our way. Byron with Nate would be awesome though

[ShotgunDawg]

I can't wait to see what kind of quality out-of-state guys we're able to get on campus.


Young's commitment is wavering but not our way. Byron with Nate would be awesome.

Who is he wavering towards?

[Commercecomet24]

Who is he wavering towards?

UF.

[ShotgunDawg]

UF.

I don't believe that. He ain't going there. However, this rumor may insinuate that he's a kid that's caught up in the bright lights and getting odd advice.

[Commercecomet24]

I don't believe that. He ain't going there. However, this rumor may insinuate that he's a kid that's caught up in the bright lights and getting odd advice.

I don't care what you believe I'm just bringing some info. He's one of my sons best friends. Now that's why I also said waivering, he hasn't changed his mind yet but he really likes dan. We'll see what happens

[KOdawg1]

I don't care what you believe I'm just bringing some info. He's one of my sons best friends. Now that's why I also said waivering, he hasn't changed his mind yet but he really likes dan. We'll see what happens
What are OM chances with him? They need defensive talent badly so I could see them going all out to get him to $ign.

[Commercecomet24]

What are OM chances with him? They need defensive talent badly so I could see them going all out to get him to $ign.

Zero. He's not fond of them.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't care what you believe I'm just bringing some info. He's one of my sons best friends. Now that's why I also said waivering, he hasn't changed his mind yet but he really likes dan. We'll see what happens

Yeah. Just doesn't pass the smell test. I believe you believe what you're saying but I just don't see it.

[ShotgunDawg]

Zero. He's not fond of them.

What's his issue with us?

We are producing numerous NFL players at his position.

Does he have a rub with MSU?

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah. Just doesn't pass the smell test. I believe you believe what you're saying but I just don't see it.

No believe to it I know what I'm saying cause I know the kid and his family. Now I honestly think he sticks with bama but I would not be surprised at all if he picked Florida. He loves Dan

[Cooterpoot]

I don't care what you believe I'm just bringing some info. He's one of my sons best friends. Now that's why I also said waivering, he hasn't changed his mind yet but he really likes dan. We'll see what happens

Tell him nobody really likes Dan. I think he's definitely caught up a little. From LSU, to AL, to FL....That's why I said I wish he'd wait until we can get Hughes in here. Hughes and Baker can be very convincing.

[Commercecomet24]

What's his issue with us?

We are producing numerous NFL players at his position.

Does he have a rub with MSU?

No he wants to go out of state

[ShotgunDawg]

No he wants to go out of state

Why does he want to go out of state?

[Commercecomet24]

Tell him nobody really likes Dan. I think he's definitely caught up a little. From LSU, to AL, to FL....That's why I said I wish he'd wait until we can get Hughes in here. Hughes and Baker can be very convincing.

He definitely likes to have fun and have as much fun as he can. Byron likes having a good time and a young un from West Jones getting treated like a king, who wouldn't be a little star struck. Most likely he winds up at bama but Florida wouldn't surprise me at all

[ShotgunDawg]

No believe to it I know what I'm saying cause I know the kid and his family. Now I honestly think he sticks with bama but I would not be surprised at all if he picked Florida. He loves Dan

I believe you in all things except that he would actually choose Florida. Your info is great. I'm just saying that I don't believe he'd actually sign with Florida.

We see this every year. Orange uniforms, Swamp, beaches, weather, etc. they all love Florida but they never sign there.

[Commercecomet24]

Why does he want to go out of state?

Some of these kids that grow up in small communities just want to get away and see what else is out there and football is giving him that chance. I thought I wanted to get away too at that age went to Los Angeles for a couple years and couldn't wait to get back home lol

[Commercecomet24]

I believe you in all things except that he would actually choose Florida. Your info is great. I'm just saying that I don't believe he'd actually sign with Florida.

We see this every year. Orange uniforms, Swamp, beaches, weather, etc. they all love Florida but they never sign there.

I gotcha. Like I said I believe he sticks with bama but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he flipped.

[StateDawg44]

Some of these kids that grow up in small communities just want to get away and see what else is out there and football is giving him that chance. I thought I wanted to get away too at that age went to Los Angeles for a couple years and couldn't wait to get back home lol

Not sure why that is so hard to understand.

Yeah I wish they would stay in state, but it's not hard to grasp the idea that they may want to experience 4-5 years of life elsewhere. Yes they are football players but they are also humans with lives outside of football.

[ShotgunDawg]

Some of these kids that grow up in small communities just want to get away and see what else is out there and football is giving him that chance. I thought I wanted to get away too at that age went to Los Angeles for a couple years and couldn't wait to get back home lol

I always find the "I want to go out of state" recruit fascinating.

It's like they believe the State of Mississippi is some sort of prison that magically disappears when you cross state lines regardless of the other school is actually closer to home than the Mississippi school. I find it illogical.

I completely understand a kid wanting to go to Bama, UGA, or a particular school, but I don't get the overarching statement of "I want to go out of state".

It's never made sense to me unless they are ashamed of where they are from and look at a different state as being of higher status regardless of reality.

[Cooterpoot]

I've seen tons of kids that go off and then can't wait to get back. In fact, more than end up staying. AL wouldn't be bad for him. FL, I'd be concerned about his happiness there. Tell him even Bobby Dickerson comes home and he's been in MLB forever it seems. Favre stayed. Billy Hamilton did. Paps came back. Big money goes further here.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not sure why that is so hard to understand.

Yeah I wish they would stay in state, but it's not hard to grasp the idea that they may want to experience 4-5 years of life elsewhere. Yes they are football players but they are also humans with lives outside of football.

Tuscaloosa is closer to his home than MSU. Destroys your narrative unless you believe that life across state lines dramatically changes.

Your post is very shallow in thought.

[Cooterpoot]

Not sure why that is so hard to understand.

Yeah I wish they would stay in state, but it's not hard to grasp the idea that they may want to experience 4-5 years of life elsewhere. Yes they are football players but they are also humans with lives outside of football.

But if they're NFL players (and he's going to have that shot barring injury), they'll see this whole country and more. School isn't where you worry about that. School should be who helps get you there with the least distractions. Then, you've got the rest of your life. NFL won't last more than a decade for most and when you're 30 something with money, you can do whatever you want.

[Bully13]

Paps liives in MS?

[ShotgunDawg]

I've seen tons of kids that go off and then can't wait to get back. In fact, more than end up staying. AL wouldn't be bad for him. FL, I'd be concerned about his happiness there. Tell him even Bobby Dickerson comes home and he's been in MLB forever it seems. Favre stayed. Billy Hamilton did. Paps came back. Big money goes further here.

This is true.

Many Mississippians look down at their state when they live there only to see how special it is when they live somewhere else for a while.

People that have never lived outside the state don't get this and can't.

[Cooterpoot]

Paps liives in MS?

Got place over close to Hburg.

[Commercecomet24]

I've seen tons of kids that go off and then can't wait to get back. In fact, more than end up staying. AL wouldn't be bad for him. FL, I'd be concerned about his happiness there. Tell him even Bobby Dickerson comes home and he's been in MLB forever it seems. Favre stayed. Billy Hamilton did. Paps came back. Big money goes further here.

Cooter you know Bobby? My son loves Bobby. And my sons been playing with Dustin for years.

[Commercecomet24]

I've seen tons of kids that go off and then can't wait to get back. In fact, more than end up staying. AL wouldn't be bad for him. FL, I'd be concerned about his happiness there. Tell him even Bobby Dickerson comes home and he's been in MLB forever it seems. Favre stayed. Billy Hamilton did. Paps came back. Big money goes further here.

Yep I agree. Maholm has a home in hburg too. I've lived in Los Angeles and Phoenix but this is home and always will be.

[Cooterpoot]

Cooter you know Bobby? My son loves Bobby. And my sons been playing with Dustin for years.

Met him several years ago, in all things, softball. Know several kids he's worked with. Guess he'll be hanging out at USM now.

[Commercecomet24]

Met him several years ago, in all things, softball. Know several kids he's worked with. Guess he'll be hanging out at USM now.

Bobby's a trip. He's fixed my kid up with a ton of gear, Cleats, turfs, gloves etc. They always have some little side stuff going when Bobby comes to help at practice. Who can hit most hrs in bp stuff like that lol

[dawggrad08]

I always find the "I want to go out of state" recruit fascinating.

It's like they believe the State of Mississippi is some sort of prison that magically disappears when you cross state lines regardless of the other school is actually closer to home than the Mississippi school. I find it illogical.

I completely understand a kid wanting to go to Bama, UGA, or a particular school, but I don't get the overarching statement of "I want to go out of state".

It's never made sense to me unless they are ashamed of where they are from and look at a different state as being of higher status regardless of reality.


Not everyone is keen on the idea of living their entire life within the state of MS. As many others have said, we've all wanted to get away from home. The proximity of the school plays a role here because it's likely a place where he can say he "went out of state" and it's a place his family could actually see him play without watching on TV. A true compromise...it gives him the feeling of experiencing something different (however similar we may think it is, it's new to him) yet proximity isn't so far away that his family can't drive there.

At the end of the day, not everyone LOVES MS...but you can't pick where you're born. And he also doesn't have your life experience to compare with his feelings of getting out of MS come what may.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not everyone is keen on the idea of living their entire life within the state of MS. As many others have said, we've all wanted to get away from home. The proximity of the school plays a role here because it's likely a place where he can say he "went out of state" and it's a place his family could actually see him play without watching on TV. A true compromise...it gives him the feeling of experiencing something different (however similar we may think it is, it's new to him) yet proximity isn't so far away that his family can't drive there.

At the end of the day, not everyone LOVES MS...but you can't pick where you're born. And he also doesn't have your life experience to compare with his feelings of getting out of MS come what may.

Obviously. It's the lack of logic though that things are much different 20 min in Alabama than they are 3 hours away in Mississippi

[StateDawg44]

Tuscaloosa is closer to his home than MSU. Destroys your narrative unless you believe that life across state lines dramatically changes.

Your post is very shallow in thought.

Jeez man, the fact that Bama is always a contender for the national championship absolutely shatters your narrative there. That's laughable. It's not like he is choosing UWA over MSU just so he can say he crossed the MS state line and lives in Alabama. Is that your argument and how you see the "out of state" kids decisions?

Shallow? Are you serious? You act as if these players owe MSU or the state of MS something. Your priority of wanting them to come to MSU over what they want is one of the more shallow things that has been posted. And it's not your first time to elude to that. That is strictly in your interest because you are a MSU fan. Talk about shallow. What a joke.

Your viewpoint is based strictly from football as if there aren't other factors than sports. Football is merely the board they have the opportunity to launch themselves from. What if their home life is toxic and this is their chance to escape it all and really distance themselves? You have such a narrow minded viewpoint about these HS players and their lives there is no reason for me to argue with you. We've already had this discussion, in this very thread actually, and you still have the same ignorant point of view and can't consider any other perspective than yours from your maroon colored glasses.

It's not that the state of MS is a "prison" (really taking it to the extreme there aren't you). You're missing the point. The reason some want to get out of state is to distance themselves from home, parents, friends, make new friends, see a different part of the country and have better access to other areas, live life some where besides a one light town, the list goes on and on.

Who cares if they come back to MS later in life? It's home. What does that prove? It's not hard to understand coming back or missing home and the easy going slower moving way of life in MS. Some prefer a little more hustle and bustle. Or think they do. That's for them to figure out though. They still get to go out and experience life differently than what they are used to and in a different location. Since when is expanding your horizons a bad thing?

I live out of state now and absolutely love it. I was born and lived in MS over 30 years. I can go back and visit whenever I want as often as I want. It's just that simple.

---

Sorry for ranting in the recruiting thread. </rant>

[michaelww3d6]

Obviously. It's the lack of logic though that things are much different 20 min in Alabama than they are 3 hours away in Mississippi

Shotgun......Just because you believe something is logical doesn't mean that it is. Just because you believe that you are right doesn't mean that you are. Just because you perceive something as real doesn't make it reality. You are one of the most obnoxious posters on this board maybe even the most. You are the most arrogant, closed minded person that I have EVER had the pleasure of coming across, you are self righteous with no right to be, you think that you are brilliant and spoiler alert....you aren't. You seem either unwilling or unable to take a step back and try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. You refuse to respect other people opinions or actual knowledge of a situation that don't comport with your own view point. You argue for the simple sake of argue....come on man..... Myself and most of the posters on this board are REALLY OVER your OPINIONS that you spew as facts. This man is recalling statements that his son heard DIRECTLY from a recruit that he is close to and here you go with the MY THOUGHTS EXIST ON A HIGHER PLAIN OF EXISTENCE BS. Bruh....... you need to do some self reflection and realize some things about yourself. I'm not a fan of the back and forth online ..... So I won't be responding to whatever vitriolic retort that you manage to muster. But I have been watching you sh*t up this board and on everyone that dare have an opposing view point. So I needed to get this out of my system. So with that out of the way. I moved away from Mississippi when I turned 18 and joined the US NAVY and 15 years later I have not and will never move back home. Just a personal preference....The pace is a little slow for me. I say this with all the love and adoration for my home state.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun......Just because you believe something is logical doesn't mean that it is. Just because you believe that you are right doesn't mean that you are. Just because you perceive something as real doesn't make it reality. You are one of the most obnoxious posters on this board maybe even the most. You are the most arrogant, closed minded person that I have EVER had the pleasure of coming across, you are self righteous with no right to be, you think that you are brilliant and spoiler alert....you aren't. You seem either unwilling or unable to take a step back and try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. You refuse to respect other people opinions or actual knowledge of a situation that don't comport with your own view point. You argue for the simple sake of argue....come on man..... Myself and most of the posters on this board are REALLY OVER your OPINIONS that you spew as facts. This man is recalling statements that his son heard DIRECTLY from a recruit that he is close to and here you go with the MY THOUGHTS EXIST ON A HIGHER PLAIN OF EXISTENCE BS. Bruh....... you need to do some self reflection and realize some things about yourself. I'm not a fan of the back and forth online ..... So I won't be responding to whatever vitriolic retort that you manage to muster. But I have been watching you sh*t up this board and on everyone that dare have an opposing view point. So I needed to get this out of my system. So with that out of the way. I moved away from Mississippi when I turned 18 and joined the US NAVY and 15 years later I have not and will never move back home. Just a personal preference....The pace is a little slow for me. I say this with all the love and adoration for my home state.

Good read. I respect the passion. Hope it makes you feel better.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Shotgun......Just because you believe something is logical doesn't mean that it is. Just because you believe that you are right doesn't mean that you are. Just because you perceive something as real doesn't make it reality. You are one of the most obnoxious posters on this board maybe even the most. You are the most arrogant, closed minded person that I have EVER had the pleasure of coming across, you are self righteous with no right to be, you think that you are brilliant and spoiler alert....you aren't. You seem either unwilling or unable to take a step back and try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. You refuse to respect other people opinions or actual knowledge of a situation that don't comport with your own view point. You argue for the simple sake of argue....come on man..... Myself and most of the posters on this board are REALLY OVER your OPINIONS that you spew as facts. This man is recalling statements that his son heard DIRECTLY from a recruit that he is close to and here you go with the MY THOUGHTS EXIST ON A HIGHER PLAIN OF EXISTENCE BS. Bruh....... you need to do some self reflection and realize some things about yourself. I'm not a fan of the back and forth online ..... So I won't be responding to whatever vitriolic retort that you manage to muster. But I have been watching you sh*t up this board and on everyone that dare have an opposing view point. So I needed to get this out of my system. So with that out of the way. I moved away from Mississippi when I turned 18 and joined the US NAVY and 15 years later I have not and will never move back home. Just a personal preference....The pace is a little slow for me. I say this with all the love and adoration for my home state.
Same

[CadaverDawg]

Tuscaloosa is closer to his home than MSU. Destroys your narrative unless you believe that life across state lines dramatically changes.

Your post is very shallow in thought.

Lol wut? You can't be serious.

[bulldawg28]

Lol wut? You can't be serious.

He's dead serious.

[ShotgunDawg]

Lol wut? You can't be serious.

What are you arguing?

Throw out the perception of the programs. Again, I completely understand why someone would choose Bama, UGA, LSU over instate schools. My question was on kids who just "want to go out of state". Such as, I'd rather attend Wyoming than MSU because I want to go out of state.

Perhaps I framed this poorly, because it seems as though you don't comprehend what I'm debating.

[Commercecomet24]

What are you arguing?

Throw out the perception of the programs. Again, I completely understand why someone would choose Bama, UGA, LSU over instate schools. My question was on kids who just "want to go out of state". Such as, I'd rather attend Wyoming than MSU because I want to go out of state.

Perhaps I framed this poorly, because it seems as though you don't comprehend what I'm debating.

Gun, I grew up in Mississippi, I've lived other places but I came back because I love this state, the people and everything about it, but thats me. However to some folks who grow up and never have been anywhere but [insert small Mississippi town here], Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, etc. seems like New York City and a totally new adventure. Some kids at that age want to just go anywhere besides Mississippi. Personally I would love to see all the best home grown talent stay here and help us grow something special but it's just not realistic.

[Cooterpoot]

I've been all over the country, and yes, MS lacks a lot of things. But, the new eventually wears off of places. It's all great until the real life stuff comes up. I'd love to live in a lot of places for a period of time, but probably not forever. But Tuscaloosa isn't much different than any small city in MS. Neither is Gainesville. It's just the new thing.

[ShotgunDawg]

Gun, I grew up in Mississippi, I've lived other places but I came back because I love this state, the people and everything about it, but thats me. However to some folks who grow up and never have been anywhere but [insert small Mississippi town here], Tuscaloosa, Gainesville, etc. seems like New York City and a totally new adventure. Some kids at that age want to just go anywhere besides Mississippi. Personally I would love to see all the best home grown talent stay here and help us grow something special but it's just not realistic.

Agree. You understand my point though.

[Commercecomet24]

I've been all over the country, and yes, MS lacks a lot of things. But, the new eventually wears off of places. It's all great until the real life stuff comes up. I'd love to live in a lot of places for a period of time, but probably not forever. But Tuscaloosa isn't much different than any small city in MS. Neither is Gainesville. It's just the new thing.

Yep this is correct. Just about everywhere you go in the South is very similar, but to these teenagers that have the wander lust, they thing they're going to another planet.

[Commercecomet24]

Agree. You understand my point though.

Yep I understand completely. I hate to see talented kids leave and go play somewhere else, but I understand that people have different visions of where they want to go with their life. Cooter made a good point in that the new wears off eventually. I lived on the point in Rancho Palos Verdes with a view of the Pacific Ocean and Catalina Island and while that was awesome for awhile I wouldn't go back and live there, but thats me. It's like the Charlie Daniels song, "Mississippi save a place for me, I'll be coming home again, Mississippi until then you'll be on my mind".

[Bully13]

I've lived out of MS for a long damned time after spending my first 30 years or so there. Every time I come back to Jackson to visit my Mom, I'm reminded of the warm kindness that in my opinion is unique. And not just my family, there's just a kind atmosphere I feel there that I consider special. I live in Texas due to the type of work I do, period .

[CadaverDawg]

What are you arguing?

Throw out the perception of the programs. Again, I completely understand why someone would choose Bama, UGA, LSU over instate schools. My question was on kids who just "want to go out of state". Such as, I'd rather attend Wyoming than MSU because I want to go out of state.

Perhaps I framed this poorly, because it seems as though you don't comprehend what I'm debating.

I'm not arguing shit. I'm noticing that you are acting like a pompous dick to members of the board, and wondering if you're seriously trying to act like some know it all messageboard bully these days. It's a bad look, man. But by all means, carry on.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm not arguing shit. I'm noticing that you are acting like a pompous dick to members of the board, and wondering if you're seriously trying to act like some know it all messageboard bully these days. It's a bad look, man. But by all means, carry on.

Where did you see that?

Please tell me where I was a pompous dick. This was a very cordial conversation until you stepped in.

Not sure what your issue is. Perhaps the pompous asshole is the person that calls out another person that never said anything to them. Keep being the board Batman though. Just not sure what your motive was. Says a lot more about you than me.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Shotgun......Just because you believe something is logical doesn't mean that it is. Just because you believe that you are right doesn't mean that you are. Just because you perceive something as real doesn't make it reality. You are one of the most obnoxious posters on this board maybe even the most. You are the most arrogant, closed minded person that I have EVER had the pleasure of coming across, you are self righteous with no right to be, you think that you are brilliant and spoiler alert....you aren't. You seem either unwilling or unable to take a step back and try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. You refuse to respect other people opinions or actual knowledge of a situation that don't comport with your own view point. You argue for the simple sake of argue....come on man..... Myself and most of the posters on this board are REALLY OVER your OPINIONS that you spew as facts. This man is recalling statements that his son heard DIRECTLY from a recruit that he is close to and here you go with the MY THOUGHTS EXIST ON A HIGHER PLAIN OF EXISTENCE BS. Bruh....... you need to do some self reflection and realize some things about yourself. I'm not a fan of the back and forth online ..... So I won't be responding to whatever vitriolic retort that you manage to muster. But I have been watching you sh*t up this board and on everyone that dare have an opposing view point. So I needed to get this out of my system. So with that out of the way. I moved away from Mississippi when I turned 18 and joined the US NAVY and 15 years later I have not and will never move back home. Just a personal preference....The pace is a little slow for me. I say this with all the love and adoration for my home state.



I refer you to a little study entitled "Unskilled and Unaware of it". I would say it is required reading for anyone who has to lead people....


https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e320/9ca64cbed9a441e55568797cbd3683cf7f8c.pdf

"People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities."


... but I digress, back to 'crootin.

[Commercecomet24]

I refer you to a little study entitled "Unskilled and Unaware of it". I would say it is required reading for anyone who has to lead people....

"People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities."


... but I digress, back to 'crootin.

As Dirty Harry said "A good man knows his limitations". Lol

[BeardoMSU]

****s sake at this thread....

https://s3.scoopwhoop.com/anj/penis1/512330830.gif

[BeardoMSU]

For a special someone...

https://hugelolcdn.com/i/324242.jpg

[ZedFedder]

So much for recruiting. We should have a recruiting thread and an arguments started in the recruiting thread thread

[Goldendawg]

Anybody got any recruiting news about players we might get. Have read the "War and Peace" novel of Shotgun vs. the World on why players should or shouldn't go out of the state.***

[Bothrops]

Recruiting thread

The arguments within the recruiting thread thread

The conflagration and diarrhea overrun, bypass thread

An OT direct link from recruiting thread

The hostile outlet vault. An escape link where members can draw violent pictures in full color and write other hateful things about fellow members to make them feel better. You can only see your own work.

[ZedFedder]

Recruiting thread

The arguments within the recruiting thread thread

The conflagration and diarrhea overrun, bypass thread

An OT direct link from recruiting thread

The hostile outlet vault. An escape link where members can draw violent pictures in full color and write other hateful things about fellow members to make them feel better. You can only see your own work.


Beautiful.

[hacker]

Witherspoon broke the Alabama state record for TDs in a season. Currently has around 2500 yards at 21ypc and 54 TDs.

[msbulldog]

Witherspoon broke the Alabama state record for TDs in a season. Currently has around 2500 yards at 21ypc and 54 TDs.

Need to sign him!

[Leroy Jenkins]

Need to sign him!

Im sold. Lets sign him and move on. I mean, give him D Lee's old scholly and at worst its a wash.

[RezDog7]

Im sold. Lets sign him and move on. I mean, give him D Lee's old scholly and at worst its a wash.

Did D Lee transfer? If so, I must have missed that.

[msbulldog]

Did D Lee transfer? If so, I must have missed that.

D Lee will graduate this year.

[msstate7]

Witherspoon broke the Alabama state record for TDs in a season. Currently has around 2500 yards at 21ypc and 54 TDs.

Who held previously held the record? Who holds the same record in miss? Wonder how it translates

[Lord McBuckethead]

I thought lil Favre had the record at like 70 in ms

[hacker]

Who held previously held the record? Who holds the same record in miss? Wonder how it translates

LaDamian Webb had 53, set in 2016

[hacker]

Who held previously held the record? Who holds the same record in miss? Wonder how it translates

Alabama
https://i.imgur.com/kVfmPDC.jpg

Mississippi
https://i.imgur.com/uHlHkDP.jpg

These are through 2014

[shrimp]

Same...for a brief second, I got excited when I saw 3 new pages added to the thread since yesterday....but then I read them.


****s sake at this thread....

https://s3.scoopwhoop.com/anj/penis1/512330830.gif

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Same...for a brief second, I got excited when I saw 3 new pages added to the thread since yesterday....but then I read them.

Same

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Any 4* or 5*'s visiting today?

[Lance Harbor]

Dicenzo rolling in the Benzo!


Alabama
https://i.imgur.com/kVfmPDC.jpg

Mississippi
https://i.imgur.com/uHlHkDP.jpg

These are through 2014

[Commercecomet24]

Things are trending well for us with Cross. Pickering is working hard on him and he loves Moorhead. Don't be surprised if he flips.

[ShotgunDawg]

Things are trending well for us with Cross. Pickering is working hard on him and he loves Moorhead. Don't be surprised if he flips.

Would be huge.

Would be a great sign of things to come with this staff.

I always think MSU will do well the MSU kids like Pickering, Jones, Moore, etc. Ole Miss has the same kids. It's those middle kids that we've got to have a staff that can land them. Cross would be one of those kids. So would Hall

[Commercecomet24]

Would be huge.

Would be a great sign of things to come with this staff.

I always think MSU will do well the MSU kids like Pickering, Jones, Moore, etc. Ole Miss has the same kids. It's those middle kids that we've got to have a staff that can land them. Cross would be one of those kids. So would Hall

Agreed. This staff has continued recruiting these kids hard, even the ones committed to big programs. We have a shot to close this recruiting season well.

[HoopsDawg]

Im sold. Lets sign him and move on. I mean, give him D Lee's old scholly and at worst its a wash.

In 3 years we are going to be wondering why we let Dee Baker from NW Rankin sign with USM. Dude is 6'0, 170 right now and he can fly. He can easily add 20 lbs in college and if not he could play DB.

[BankerDog]

Think I found our JuCo WR...Donnie Corley at Coahoma, former highly rated 4* out of Detroit who went to Michigan State. Was a Big 10 All-Freshman.

[AROB44]

Think I found our JuCo WR...Donnie Corley at Coahoma, former highly rated 4* out of Detroit who went to Michigan State. Was a Big 10 All-Freshman.

Yea...we really want him....
Three former Michigan State football players accused in the sexual assault of a woman have avoided jail time after pleading guilty.
Former Hinsdale South star Josh King, Donnie Corley Jr. and Demetric Vance were sentenced Wednesday to three years? probation, sex offender treatment and therapy

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yea...we really want him....
Three former Michigan State football players accused in the sexual assault of a woman have avoided jail time after pleading guilty.
Former Hinsdale South star Josh King, Donnie Corley Jr. and Demetric Vance were sentenced Wednesday to three years? probation, sex offender treatment and therapy

I'm pretty sure that conviction stops him from going to a SEC school. Good find though.

[msu15]

I wish we could find a way to hit our own version of a Mississippi Grand Slam with Young, Turnage, Mingo, Hall, and Cross. That would take this class way over the top.

[Ari Gold]

I wish we could find a way to hit our own version of a Mississippi Grand Slam with Young, Turnage, Mingo, Hall, and Cross. That would take this class way over the top.

3 out of the 5 would be fantastic and very possible ...

[msu15]

3 out of the 5 would be fantastic and very possible ...

Hell yea man!

[ZedFedder]

3 out of the 5 would be fantastic and very possible ...

Which 3?

[ShotgunDawg]

Which 3?

You'd have to think that Hall, Cross, and Mingo are the most likely. Never know though.

[Homedawg]

Which 3?

Hall is looking good at present. Cross next most likely. After that....I guess Mingo. I wouldn't count on it though. But guess it's plausible.

[Cooterpoot]

I’ll be very surprised if we pull Mingo. I actually think he’s the least likely.

[Bothrops]

Mingo ain't coming. He's about to be really locked in to OM.

Getting Cross and Hall are possible.

[Bully13]

question for the crootin' gurus. If we were to pull of some type of miracle in T-Town and win out, would that change things or are things pretty much settled for this year's croots?

[Ari Gold]

Mr. Mingo if you are reading these message boards, I hope you are getting yourself menatally prepared to play on the defensive side of the ball in Oxford.
Because I am willing to bet that’s where you will be.

[Ari Gold]

Everyone don’t sleep on the amount of pull JJ and Tyler Williams will have on Turnage.
Like I said 3 of the 5 will be fantastic
With Young he is for sure a take. But the 4 DL we have committed right now are very nice pick ups. One of them might be very special .

[Bully13]

Mr. Mingo if you are reading these message boards, I hope you are getting yourself menatally prepared to play on the defensive side of the ball in Oxford.
Because I am willing to bet that’s where you will be.

Preach.

[Cooterpoot]

Mingo is a hopeless situation barring something really crazy. Cross is going to turn into a battle. Turnage is the question mark. We get one shot to convince Young but it's not happening IMO. Hall is waiting on AU and if that doesn't happen by Dec, I think he commits to us.

[msstate7]

Saw this on sps...

https://i.postimg.cc/xjg59yQ2/BC6-AABD1-AB79-42-BE-8699-DB68-B7-BEB8-F5.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

This doesn't look like a guy getting ready to flip to us

[ShotgunDawg]

Saw this on sps...

https://i.postimg.cc/xjg59yQ2/BC6-AABD1-AB79-42-BE-8699-DB68-B7-BEB8-F5.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

This doesn't look like a guy getting ready to flip to us

No but people being real with him can help make it happen over time. Jones is right

[ShotgunDawg]

I do find it amazing how Saban handles recruits like Young coming in with entitlement and finds a way to never have a let down.

There is clearly a very effective derecruitment process there.

[msstate7]

I do find it amazing how Saban handles recruits like Young coming in with entitlement and finds a way to never have a let down.

There is clearly a very effective derecruitment process there.
It's called playoff appearances and the nfl draft

[Cooterpoot]

Young could come in and play a lot for us but he'll go to Bama and redshirt. I wonder what the percentage of highly rated MS kids that sign with Bama is, that actually (a) play a lot and (b) make the NFL. It's pretty low.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's called playoff appearances and the nfl draft

Yes. Of course.

My point was that it's amazing how Saban gets kids to come in with a blue collar attitude when their assumption is that winning and the draft is entitled to them just because of the Jersey they wear.

[Cooterpoot]

I like the fact the guys leaving out catch some hell from other recruits.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yes. Of course.

My point was that it's amazing how Saban gets kids to come in with a blue collar attitude when their assumption is that winning and the draft is entitled to them just because of the Jersey they wear.

That process starts before they ever sign their name on the dotted line.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I do find it amazing how Saban handles recruits like Young coming in with entitlement and finds a way to never have a let down.

There is clearly a very effective derecruitment process there.

Equal talent is the key. When you have a 5-star and a 2-star, the 5-star can coast and act like a prima-donna and still get playing time. When both players are 2-stars, if you coast or act like a prima-donna, then the other guy gets to play. In Saban's case, he has 4 and 5 stars. If a 5-star doesn't want to do it the Saban way, it's okay. Because there is another 5-star ready to take his place. So Saban doesn't have to cater to the stars. Because he has a roster full of them. At most schools, 5-stars aren't expendable, and the player knows it. At Alabama, they are expendable.

[ShotgunDawg]

Equal talent is the key. When you have a 5-star and a 2-star, the 5-star can coast and act like a prima-donna and still get playing time. When both players are 2-stars, if you coast or act like a prima-donna, then the other guy gets to play. In Saban's case, he has 4 and 5 stars. If a 5-star doesn't want to do it the Saban way, it's okay. Because there is another 5-star ready to take his place. So Saban doesn't have to cater to the stars. Because he has a roster full of them. At most schools, 5-stars aren't expendable, and the player knows it. At Alabama, they are expendable.

I agree this explains much of it, but USC, Ohio State, LSU, etc all recruit tons of 4 and 5 star guys as well but still have problems. There's more to it

[BeardoMSU]

Young could come in and play a lot for us but he'll go to Bama and redshirt. I wonder what the percentage of highly rated MS kids that sign with Bama is, that actually (a) play a lot and (b) make the NFL. It's pretty low.

What ever happened to Nigel Nott (sp.)?

[Lance Harbor]

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?68995-For-those-that-give-a-crap-(RE-Bammer-Depth-Chart-Released)&p=983265&viewfull=1#post983265


What ever happened to Nigel Nott (sp.)?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Mississipi players on Alabama team:

Current Roster:

Nigel Knott; Redshirt Soph
Played in two games as a RFr and recorded no stats.
Has played in 8 games this season and recorded 1 tackle.

Scott Lashley; Redshirt Soph
Played in three games as as RFr.
Has played in 7 games this season and has 72 snaps at Right Tackle

Matt Womack; Redshirt Jr.
Played in 9 games as a RFr. in a reserve role
Started in 14 games as a RSo. at Right Tackle
Missed the first 4 games this season with an injury. Has regained his starting role at Right Tackle since coming back.

Raekwon Davis; Jr.
Played in 7 games as a true Freshman in a reserve role recording 4 tackles and 1 sack. The 1 sack was against MSU causing the QB to fumble.
Started in 14 games as a Soph. earning 1st team All-SEC. Recorded 69 total tackles, 10 TFL and 8.5 sacks
Started in 9 games as a Jr. recording 31 total tackles, 3.5 TFL and 0.5 sacks

[Cooterpoot]

Jarrian says two new commits coming- Mason and Griffin

[bostondawg]

Twitters are going nuts right now with hype. Something is brewing on the recruiting front.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Jarrian says two new commits coming- Mason and Griffin

Huge start to the 2020 class. 2 of the top 5 players in the state next year. Both WR a position we definitely need an upgrade at. Add Malik Heath to those 2 & that's 3 4*'WR in the class with 1 or 2 more WR spots left.

[Cooterpoot]

Also, about to be some flipping news within the next week or so. Hang on, it's bout to get crazy!

[Dawgology]

Twitters are going nuts right now with hype. Something is brewing on the recruiting front.

Perfect! We need some good recruiting news!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Also, about to be some flipping news within the next week or so. Hang on, it's bout to get crazy!

I've heard the same on a couple fronts. Its about to be exciting.

[Dawgology]

Huge start to the 2020 class. 2 of the top 5 players in the state next year. Both WR a position we definitely need an upgrade at. Add Malik Heath to those 2 & that's 3 4*'WR in the class with 1 or 2 more WR spots left.

GReat!!

[Johnson85]

Jarrian says two new commits coming- Mason and Griffin

So are those the 2020 commits? Or are they for the current year?

[ShotgunDawg]

I've heard the same on a couple fronts. Its about to be exciting.

Are the flips in our favor or someone else's favor?

[Cooterpoot]

Are the flips in our favor or someone else's favor?

No idea yet. Just passing on what I was told. No specific information other than one will be a surprise.

[Cooterpoot]

So are those the 2020 commits? Or are they for the current year?

2020

[Cooterpoot]

Also saw where QB Keyes is going to be playing 7v7 with Demario Davis's team.

[Commercecomet24]

Also, about to be some flipping news within the next week or so. Hang on, it's bout to get crazy!

I've been hearing the same. Maybe a Merry Merry Flipmas!

[ShotgunDawg]

I've been hearing the same. Maybe a Merry Merry Flipmas!

Will you PM me who?

[msbulldog]

I've been hearing the same. Maybe a Merry Merry Flipmas!

Hope it's Mingo!

[Johnson85]

Huge start to the 2020 class. 2 of the top 5 players in the state next year. Both WR a position we definitely need an upgrade at. Add Malik Heath to those 2 & that's 3 4*'WR in the class with 1 or 2 more WR spots left.

So is Malik Heath going to qualify out of JUCO after one year? I assume he won't qualify until after the summer and will get to campus in the fall?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Also saw where QB Keyes is going to be playing 7v7 with Demario Davis's team.

If gets to around 6'2" 6'3" he's going to be 1 of the top rated QB's in the country.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So is Malik Heath going to qualify out of JUCO after one year? I assume he won't qualify until after the summer and will get to campus in the fall?

No

[Cooterpoot]

If gets to around 6'2" 6'3" he's going to be 1 of the top rated QB's in the country.

If they win this week, I'm going to see him play next week. He looks 6'0, maybe a hair taller to me. But Jo doesn't care about height much I don't think.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hope it's Mingo!

I want Cross. Would love both.

With two 4 star WRs committing today for 2020 & Malik Heath coming as well, I think OL is far more important

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If they win this week, I'm going to see him play next week. He looks 6'0, maybe a hair taller to me. But Jo doesn't care about height much I don't think.

Yea he's a little over 6' & oh no JoeMo already loves him but I know the "experts" will try to use his height as a reason not to rank him properly.

[ShotgunDawg]

If they win this week, I'm going to see him play next week. He looks 6'0, maybe a hair taller to me. But Jo doesn't care about height much I don't think.

McSorely is 6'0" 203.

JoMo cares far more about accuracy, intelligence, & touch

[Cooterpoot]

Keyes is the most accurate 9th/10th grader I've ever seen.

[msbulldog]

I want Cross. Would love both.

With two 4 star WRs committing today for 2020 & Malik Heath coming as well, I think OL is far more important

I'm with you Gun, Both!

[ZedFedder]

Bell has been rung.

[ShotgunDawg]

Keyes is the most accurate 9th/10th grader I've ever seen.

So, the question is: How much have you seen?

[ShotgunDawg]

Tulu is in the boat. HAIL YEAH!!!! Huge Croot for Moorhead

https://twitter.com/LideatrickG/status/1060600670062104585

[ShotgunDawg]

Is Tulu basically Keith Mixon or Dedrick Thomas?

What are we getting?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Is Tulu basically Keith Mixon or Dedrick Thomas?

What are we getting?

He has Mixon quickness but with better size. Tulu is around 5'10" 170lbs. He'll play in college at around 185-190lbs. I've said it since the summer he may be the biggest playmaker in the state with the ball in his hands.

[ShotgunDawg]

He has Mixon quickness but with better size. Tulu is around 5'10" 170lbs. He'll play in college at around 185-190lbs. I've said it since the summer he may be the biggest playmaker in the state with the ball in his hands.

Me likey

[StarkVegasSteve]

Tulu is in the boat. HAIL YEAH!!!! Huge Croot for Moorhead

https://twitter.com/LideatrickG/status/1060600670062104585

Huge pickup for the '20 class. And E'Jai Mason committed

[Doggie_Style]

So is Malik Heath going to qualify out of JUCO after one year? I assume he won't qualify until after the summer and will get to campus in the fall?

Hopefully he's on campus for spring 2020.....he's not a commit yet however. Great start to the 2020 class for Moorhead. I just hope we can land the holy trinity of Cross, Hall and Mingo for 2019...there is a chance!

[BeardoMSU]

Hopefully he's on campus for spring 2020.....he's not a commit yet however. Great start to the 2020 class for Moorhead. I just hope we can land the holy trinity of Cross, Hall and Mingo for 2019...there is a chance!

It feels good to feel good about recruiting again...

[Matt3467]

Do we not have a chance at Peques? Wasn't it his brother that was a standout CB for us under Croom?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

I say we go ahead and name Jarrion Jones a player/coach. Let him finish his career and then put him as lead recruiter.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Do we not have a chance at Peques? Wasn't it his brother that was a standout CB for us under Croom?

No & No

[Matt3467]

No & No

Ah, thought he was related to Derek Peques.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Ah, thought he was related to Derek Peques.

They may be related but it's not his brother.

[preachermatt83]

E Jai Mason and Tulu Griffin in the boat for 2020!!

[preachermatt83]

E Jai Mason and Tulu Griffin in the boat for 2020!!

Sorry I just looked back and saw it's already been posted. My apologies

[preachermatt83]

I expect Mingo and hall both in this class and feel like we are 50/50 on cross. What a finish that would be

[Johnson85]

No

I obviously can't count past one.

Are we expecting Heath to be a december 2019 graduate by chance? Be nice to have him on campus for the spring. I guess I am assuming we are still expecting to offer and for him to come?

[ShotgunDawg]

I expect Mingo and hall both in this class and feel like we are 50/50 on cross. What a finish that would be

Adding those 3 would give us 243 recruiting points on 247, with 22 commits, which would've finished 18th in 2018.

[msstate7]

Adding those 3 would give us 243 recruiting points on 247, with 22 commits, which would've finished 18th in 2018.

If we finish inside top 20, I'll be impressed.