2021 MSU Football Recruiting Discussion Thread

[StateDawg44]

So the non smart ass answer is:

Yes, he was offered a walk on position.

https://media.giphy.com/media/wIxG3IrKaue8E/giphy.gif

[Irondawg]

Little smoke around my boy S Price now as well. Would love to find a spot for him

[KOdawg1]

Little smoke around my boy S Price now as well. Would love to find a spot for him
May be taking him as our RB

[msstate7]

OM has passed us now with 1 less commit. Which school is set up to finish stronger?

[BrunswickDawg]

OM has passed us now with 1 less commit. Which school is set up to finish stronger?

Interesting thing - 247 composite has them 28 and us 32. But, the 247 only ranking has them at 37 and us at 28. As usual, ESPN gives OM a media bump.

[msstate7]

Interesting thing - 247 composite has them 28 and us 32. But, the 247 only ranking has them at 37 and us at 28. As usual, ESPN gives OM a media bump.

That's encouraging

[ZedFedder]

OM is set to finish really strong, and I really don’t care because we aren’t after really any of the same guys. There is usually a couple big in state fish that both schools are still battling for but not as much the case this time. Ty Cooper is the only one that I think both schools are truly fighting for.

[ZedFedder]

2022 QB Ty Simpson released his top 10. Stinks that his dad is a former player, and MSU isn't even in it while OM is.

https://247sports.com/Article/Ty-Simpson-top-schools-recruiting-Alabama-Clemson-Ole-Miss-Tennessee-156569141/

[msstate7]

2022 QB Ty Simpson released his top 10. Stinks that his dad is a former player, and MSU isn't even in it while OM is.

https://247sports.com/Article/Ty-Simpson-top-schools-recruiting-Alabama-Clemson-Ole-Miss-Tennessee-156569141/

Dual threat, so I guess we not interested. Seems to me that this offense could really use a qb that has the ability to take off running.

[KOdawg1]

OM has passed us now with 1 less commit. Which school is set up to finish stronger?

Ole Miss will finish higher. They're going to add potentially 3-4 more 4 stars and we're only going to add one.

But we're going to have several guys who are 247sports 4 stars, but are composite 3 stars. I think we'll be pleased with our class if we hold on to everyone and close on everyone we're supposed to

[FISHDAWG]

Could this be Leaches Holloway ? ... Small for a RB but probably quick ... I wouldn't expect Leach to look for an Anthony Dixon type back with his system - got an offer for the 2021 class

https://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Connard-46111622/

[ShotgunDawg]

Ole Miss will finish higher. They're going to add potentially 3-4 more 4 stars and we're only going to add one.

But we're going to have several guys who are 247sports 4 stars, but are composite 3 stars. I think we'll be pleased with our class if we hold on to everyone and close on everyone we're supposed to

We could add more than 2.

Harmon
Calvin Johnson doesn't have ranking yet but is a 4 star talent. We'll see where he ends up
Calloway is still out there. We'll see what happens

Eitherway, Ole Miss's recruits seem to be better in the composite rankings & 247 has their recruits mostly ranked lower, which makes the 2 classes damn near equal.

Either way, both classes are going to be very similar & not a penny's worth of difference on the field.

[bulldawg28]

That's encouraging

Ole miss always beats up in recruiting not worried there. If they keep beating us on the field be worried.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We could add more than 2.

Harmon
Calvin Johnson doesn't have ranking yet but is a 4 star talent. We'll see where he ends up
Calloway is still out there. We'll see what happens

Eitherway, Ole Miss's recruits seem to be better in the composite rankings & 247 has their recruits mostly ranked lower, which makes the 2 classes damn near equal.

Either way, both classes are going to be very similar & not a penny's worth of difference on the field.

Go back and look at OM's really good classes under Freeze and it was the same thing. Some people have a problem with 247 but they're generally very accurate when rating recruits. They were on Chris Jones long before any other recruiting services were.

[ZedFedder]

Dual threat, so I guess we not interested. Seems to me that this offense could really use a qb that has the ability to take off running.

I think we very much would take him, I just don't think he is interested.

[msstate7]

We've actually finished ahead of OM in composite 3 of the last 4 years.

[HancockCountyDog]

We've actually finished ahead of OM in composite 3 of the last 4 years.

I think the recruiting service that ranks MSU higher than the bears is the more accurate service.

[Westdawg]

2022 QB Ty Simpson released his top 10. Stinks that his dad is a former player, and MSU isn't even in it while OM is.

https://247sports.com/Article/Ty-Simpson-top-schools-recruiting-Alabama-Clemson-Ole-Miss-Tennessee-156569141/

That Westview program is a top notch program. SOLID coaches. Had the privilege to coach against many of those guys over the years.
Ty has been showing major promise since junior high. He's a good QB.

[Cooterpoot]

2022 QB Ty Simpson released his top 10. Stinks that his dad is a former player, and MSU isn't even in it while OM is.

https://247sports.com/Article/Ty-Simpson-top-schools-recruiting-Alabama-Clemson-Ole-Miss-Tennessee-156569141/

His dad transferred out to USM, so it's not like he's really a legacy. We aren't really recruiting him and he was pretty locked in on TN at one time. He's fallen slightly down the boards of a few schools, not just State.

[msstate7]

I think the recruiting service that ranks MSU higher than the bears is the more accurate service.

Haha

[Dawgology]

I think the recruiting service that ranks MSU higher than the bears is the more accurate service.

Exactly. You can always tell a higher quality service by their values. Lol

[Todd4State]

Ole miss always beats up in recruiting not worried there. If they keep beating us on the field be worried.

Ole Miss is very clearly recruiting to manipulate the data. There is no question in my mind that is a factor in their recruiting. Gotta win the press conference even if the guy doesn't contribute.

[msu15]

Ole miss always beats up in recruiting not worried there. If they keep beating us on the field be worried.

I wouldn't describe them winning 1 in a row in game that was 80 vs. 45 and one we should've still won as grounds to say "Keep beating us on the field"

[Todd4State]

I wouldn't describe them winning 1 in a row in game that was 80 vs. 45 and one we should've still won as grounds to say "Keep beating us on the field"

Or where they intentionally hurt our QB where our coach was checked out.

[msstate7]

Avg per recruit for us is 86.55, which is 12th in the sec. That's only ahead of South Carolina and vandy (teams that fired HCs).

[ShotgunDawg]

Avg per recruit for us is 86.55, which is 12th in the sec. That's only ahead of South Carolina and vandy (teams that fired HCs).

Let’s see what it looks like at the end. I like this class on film. I bet it performs way over the class rank. People literally make too much of the difference between an 86-91

[msstate7]

Let’s see what it looks like at the end. I like this class on film. I bet it performs way over the class rank. People literally make too much of the difference between an 86-91

247 likes our class, so that's a positive

[KOdawg1]

We can nitpick the class and it's ranking all day, but it's going to be a solid class that fills needs. Really the only question is OL, and we'll have more options if we wait until February. Everywhere else is really solid.

[ShotgunDawg]

247 likes our class, so that's a positive

I’m not saying 247 has better evaluators because I’d be shocked if the evaluated our JUCO players for more that 30 seconds, but they do seem to be more up to date than anyone else’s.

Seems like Rivals and ESPN slap a ranking on a guy as a JR and never looks at it again regardless of how the player’s ability fluctuated. We’ll benefit from that with Harmon.

My sense when looking OM’s class is that there are a number of players that established themselves as 4 stars their Jr years and got worse or injured. 247 re ranked those players as 3 stars but the other sites never touched them

[ShotgunDawg]

We can nitpick the class and it's ranking all day, but it's going to be a solid class that fills needs. Really the only question is OL, and we'll have more options if we wait until February. Everywhere else is really solid.

It’s a good class that fits Leach’s culture. The 16th ranked class is virtually the same as the 35th. Just the way evaluation works when most of the players fit in the middle range.

[ZedFedder]

To be honest, who cares what OM’s recruiting rankings are as long as we take care of ours?

[msstate7]

To be honest, who cares what OM’s recruiting rankings are as long as we take care of ours?

We need to care what every sec west team and Kentucky's are imo

[msu15]

We need to care what every sec west team and Kentucky's are imo

I disagree. I care about their results on the field.

[msstate7]

I disagree. I care about their results on the field.

Ok, we lost to all but 1 of the teams in that group this season. Ironically, the one we beat beat the hell out of us recruiting wise.

[bobcat91]

Looks like Price is taking the RB spot and Hunter wanting to wait till February is out of a spot.

[ZedFedder]

https://twitter.com/WRsSpurrierMSU/status/1337584524448964608

Coach Spurrier with an interesting tweet.

[Uncle Ruckus]

If ?we? are honest, what ?we? do doesn?t make one damn difference

[ShotgunDawg]

Looks like Price is taking the RB spot and Hunter wanting to wait till February is out of a spot.

Price is better. Not sure how long Hunter took has anything to do with it

[Westdawg]

Here is Simeon Price's HUDL:
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9714197

Here is Jarquez Hunter's HUDL from their game against Ridgeland this year:
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9829579/5f9655babed74307502b8070

[ShotgunDawg]

Here is Simeon Price's HUDL:
https://www.hudl.com/profile/9714197

Here is Jarquez Hunter's HUDL from their game against Ridgeland this year:
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9829579/5f9655babed74307502b8070

Price has better feet, is a smoother runner, & clearly more fluid & explosive.

Hunter is a thumper with good strength & a nose for physicality. Not as fluid or as good of burst as Price though.

[ZedFedder]

MS AL Game is on right now. Can watch it for free at FNUTL.com. Ty Cooper is pretty darn good, y’all. Should be ranked higher. He is a bigger recruit than I thought.

[msu15]

MS AL Game is on right now. Can watch it for free at FNUTL.com. Ty Cooper is pretty darn good, y’all. Should be ranked higher. He is a bigger recruit than I thought.

He has a great frame. His wingspan is a major asset for him.

[Irondawg]

Price has better feet, is a smoother runner, & clearly more fluid & explosive.

Hunter is a thumper with good strength & a nose for physicality. Not as fluid or as good of burst as Price though.

And that’s why most people thought Hunters best spot long term was safety

[maroonmania]

He has a great frame. His wingspan is a major asset for him.

What are our odds on reeling him in? Amazes me how we seem to consistently struggle with every big recruit out of Louisville given the proximity to MSU.

[HancockCountyDog]

What are our odds on reeling him in? Amazes me how we seem to consistently struggle with every big recruit out of Louisville given the proximity to MSU.

We are in great shape.

[msu15]

What are our odds on reeling him in? Amazes me how we seem to consistently struggle with every big recruit out of Louisville given the proximity to MSU.

If he signs Wednesday, Dawg

[msstate7]

Auburn currently has 12 commits, and they have no coach. Should we and OM be concerned if freeze gets hired at auburn that he tries to raid us two to fill in a class? Assuming it is freeze, he might go hard on the transfer circuit this cycle though.

[KOdawg1]

Playing around with the class calculator, if we finish with the 7 we're supposed to finish with (Harmon, Price, Cooper, Anderson, Perkins, Johnson, and Boone/OL with similar ranking), we'll finish with a composite score of around 218. If you apply that to the last 4 years and get an average, it'll put us around 27th. Not fantastic, but certainly acceptable with it being this staff's first year in the SEC. The knock on them was that they wouldn't be able to recruit, and so far, that's simply just not true.

However, if we want to actually start taking steps forward as a program, we need to move forward with the goal in mind of having top 25 classes year in and year out. That's not totally unrealistic. That's essentially 1-2 more 4 star players and 1-2 less low-3 star players. Looking back over the last 4 years, the 25th ranked class averaged around 226. So that number and up should be our target next year, with a strong in-state class seemingly on the way.

[KOdawg1]

Auburn currently has 12 commits, and they have no coach. Should we and OM be concerned if freeze gets hired at auburn that he tries to raid us two to fill in a class? Assuming it is freeze, he might go hard on the transfer circuit this cycle though.


Most of our guys are signing in two days, so unless they hire him and he gets to work ASAP, I don't think we'll have to worry about Freeze too much this year.

[msstate7]

Playing around with the class calculator, if we finish with the 7 we're supposed to finish with (Harmon, Price, Cooper, Anderson, Perkins, Johnson, and Boone/OL with similar ranking), we'll finish with a composite score of around 218. If you apply that to the last 4 years and get an average, it'll put us around 27th. Not fantastic, but certainly acceptable with it being this staff's first year in the SEC. The knock on them was that they wouldn't be able to recruit, and so far, that's simply just not true.

However, if we want to actually start taking steps forward as a program, we need to move forward with the goal in mind of having top 25 classes year in and year out. That's not totally unrealistic. That's essentially 1-2 more 4 star players and 1-2 less low-3 star players. Looking back over the last 4 years, the 25th ranked class averaged around 226. So that number and up should be our target next year, with a strong in-state class seemingly on the way.

27 is solid imo. I'll be pretty happy if leach pulls that off bc I expected more 35-40 with his recruiting reputation.

[msstate7]

Most of our guys are signing in two days, so unless they hire him and he gets to work ASAP, I don't think we'll have to worry about Freeze too much this year.

Good deal.

[Dawgology]

27 is solid imo. I'll be pretty happy if leach pulls that off bc I expected more 35-40 with his recruiting reputation.

I?m thinking we end up landing in the 30-35 region once it?s all said and done (including Feb signings)

[KOdawg1]

I?m thinking we end up landing in the 30-35 region once it?s all said and done (including Feb signings)

Then it'll be a very uncharacteristic year for the rankings. Going back for the last 10 years, the lowest ranking a recruiting score of 218 got was 30, and that happened once. So what you're saying isn't impossible, but unlikely given the trends of the last 10 years.

If we land Calvin Johnson, then he's going to get a significant bump, so that 218 number will go up a little as well.

[Irondawg]

AU is going to hire someone by today and then make a ton of calls trying to secure their core recruits and then try to convince about 25 other to wait till Feb

[MetEdDawg]

AU is going to hire someone by today and then make a ton of calls trying to secure their core recruits and then try to convince about 25 other to wait till Feb

What I'm being told is they aren't going to hire someone by today and that it might not be finalized until the end of the week.

The majority want Cristobal. But Steele has a ton of influential folks in his camp. Auburn not having a coach by Wednesday could be an issue for some of their guys they were counting on to sign Wednesday.

[Dawgology]

I would hope that we push for some of Auburn’s uncommitted guys like Hunter or Roberts.

[Cooterpoot]

Then it'll be a very uncharacteristic year for the rankings. Going back for the last 10 years, the lowest ranking a recruiting score of 218 got was 30, and that happened once. So what you're saying isn't impossible, but unlikely given the trends of the last 10 years.

If we land Calvin Johnson, then he's going to get a significant bump, so that 218 number will go up a little as well.

Best not count on CJ.

[KOdawg1]

Best not count on CJ.

Seems he may stick with Navy. Good for him I guess.

[Westdawg]

Best not count on CJ.

On his part or the staff?

[HancockCountyDog]

Seems he may stick with Navy. Good for him I guess.

It?s impressive, in fact admirable.

I?ll believe it, when I see it.

[Cooterpoot]

On his part or the staff?

His choice if he doesn't sign with us. Give the kid credit, he can go to almost any school he wants with his academics.

[DLGDawg]

Jack Abraham signed today as a preferred walk on I believe.

[msstate7]

Jack Abraham signed today as a preferred walk on I believe.

Led the nation in comp % in 2018, and he was 10th in 2019. In an offense that dinks and dunks for the most part, comp % would seem to be a big stat. This guy could be a sneaky pick to start game 1.

[ShotgunDawg]

Led the nation in comp % in 2018, and he was 10th in 2019. In an offense that dinks and dunks for the most part, comp % would seem to be a big stat. This guy could be a sneaky pick to start game 1.

Interesting. I'm all for competition.

I think Rogers is decent, but he's got to improve his arm strength & physicality to increase his playmaking ability. The offense basically has to run to perfection right now for us to move the ball because he's not fast, not physical enough to break a tackle, & doesn't have the arm strength to rip it in there.

If Sawyer were coming in at Christmas, I think there would be a real chance of him beating Roger out, but, with Sawyer coming in in July, & Leach having a disgust for starting FR QBs, I think he'll try to RS Sawyer, which makes the Abraham signing huge

[Hambone]

How many walk on QB’s does Leach typically have?? Just off the top of my head you have the kid from Vandy, now Abraham, Stolberg, and the kid from Tupelo.

I guess you have to have that many to run the passing drills he requires, but dang that’s a lot of qb’s. Yes, I realize most will not play, but that still seems like a lot of people at that one position.

[FISHDAWG]

How many walk on QB?s does Leach typically have?? Just off the top of my head you have the kid from Vandy, now Abraham, Stolberg, and the kid from Tupelo.

I guess you have to have that many to run the passing drills he requires, but dang that?s a lot of qb?s. Yes, I realize most will not play, but that still seems like a lot of people at that one position.

with his attrition rate you can never have too many players

[KOdawg1]

Canon Boone with a crystal ball to the good guys.

Huge, huge recruiting win for the staff if they close it tomorrow.

[Cooterpoot]

Led the nation in comp % in 2018, and he was 10th in 2019. In an offense that dinks and dunks for the most part, comp % would seem to be a big stat. This guy could be a sneaky pick to start game 1.

Check out the turnover numbers though

[msstate7]

Check out the turnover numbers though

He'd certainly have to take better care of the ball.

[Thick]

Just a heads up, Chance Lovertich (South Alabama) is considering transferring depending on who USA inks as their new coach. His dad told me it would be MSU or USM. Chance said he can beat out Rogers.

[bulldawg28]

Just a heads up, Chance Lovertich (South Alabama) is considering transferring depending on who USA inks as their new coach. His dad told me it would be MSU or USM. Chance said he can beat out Rogers.

I like to hear that. Bring on the competition.

[ZedFedder]

I watched Lovertich play. I wasn’t too impressed.

[defiantdog]

I watched Lovertich play. I wasn’t too impressed.

He's talented but too short. He'd have trouble throwing over 6'8" linemen.

[msstate7]

Just a heads up, Chance Lovertich (South Alabama) is considering transferring depending on who USA inks as their new coach. His dad told me it would be MSU or USM. Chance said he can beat out Rogers.

Not saying we won't beat out Rogers, but chance's numbers don't look good

[FISHDAWG]

anything to this cryptic hieroglyph ?

https://twitter.com/DawgPoundRock31/status/1338895165034016770

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I think that flipping gif is Boone flipping from VT to state.

[LC Dawg]

I saw Lovertich play quite a few times at MGCCC. He's a helluva competitor but I think his best option would be to go play for Will Hall for two years.

[Thick]

Don?t shoot the messenger fellas. I?m just sharing the info. I just want to see us win, and quite frankly, I don?t care if he?s a midget. If he?s a good fit bc he can read defenses quickly and put the ball where the WR is supposed to be, and can run some then I?m good. We?re 2 years away from this experiment before we know if it?s a winner or loser.

[FISHDAWG]

I think that flipping gif is Boone flipping from VT to state.

was he previously committed to us? The connotation is someone is coming BACK ... I just don't see how the cruitin guys on here keep up with everything cause it's more than I can ..... Thanks to the guys that do track and inform on here

[Cooterpoot]

Not saying we won't beat out Rogers, but chance's numbers don't look good

He's not coming here, and he might not start at USM, because Lowe is decent. USM does need a transfer QB because Keyes is going to redshirt. Would be a good spot for him.

[FlytheW3]

Any update on Antonio Harmon? I know he tweeted he was going to commit on the 14th, but doesn't look to be the case.

[sscjr1]

Any update on Antonio Harmon? I know he tweeted he was going to commit on the 14th, but doesn't look to be the case.

Tomorrow

[vv83]

Just lost Strong

[sscjr1]

Just lost Strong

Gut punch

[BayouDawg]

Just lost Strong

Yea the LSU guys at work this morning said they were pushing hard to flip nabers and strong. Good news is it looks like nabers is sticking.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

That?s a kick to the nuts to lose strong.

[BayouDawg]

That?s a kick to the nuts to lose strong.

I don?t know why he would go to LSU. He dont even know who the dc will be

[ZedFedder]

Isn’t he a Louisiana kid?

[HancockCountyDog]

Any update on Antonio Harmon? I know he tweeted he was going to commit on the 14th, but doesn't look to be the case.

Are we sure we are taking him? I've heard different things.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Strong is a MS kid who grew up a state fan supposedly.

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm hearing that Paul's back flip post was not an accident. That is all I'm saying.

[Homedawg]

I'm hearing that Paul's back flip post was not an accident. That is all I'm saying.

I assume you are talking about pounders? He was forewarned when he told someone on our staff he loved oxford and didn't care for starkville, that we weren't going to take him back when he got ready to transfer. I assume that means we wouldn't take him back now. I wouldn't. He's ok but still

[KOdawg1]

1 step forward, 2 steps back. That's the MSU way lol. Absolutely brutal to lose Strong at this stage of the game.

As for Pounders? Eff him. He made his decision. He can live with it.

[HancockCountyDog]

I assume you are talking about pounders? He was forewarned when he told someone on our staff he loved oxford and didn't care for starkville, that we weren't going to take him back when he got ready to transfer. I assume that means we wouldn't take him back now. I wouldn't. He's ok but still

I?ll be interested to see if we take him back, He has apparently been pushed out by alleged bigger fish by the bears.

Steve has him going to Memphis now.

[vv83]

1 step forward, 2 steps back. That's the MSU way lol. Absolutely brutal to lose Strong at this stage of the game.

As for Pounders? Eff him. He made his decision. He can live with it.

yall are insane. if a 17 year old got caught up in the drama of recruiting then gets it figured out (assuming he helps the team and we want him) you take him

[Ari Gold]

Would have loved to have kept Strong,
But don’t be shocked if ET comes back for another season.. so this isn’t as big of a loss if this is the case
And I think he , along with Kobe and Spencer all 3 are back

Nabers is who we have to hang on to..it’s a battle

[Homedawg]

I?ll be interested to see if we take him back, He has apparently been pushed out by alleged bigger fish by the bears.

Steve has him going to Memphis now.

Unless there has been a MAJOR change in mind we won't take him back

[vv83]

Would have loved to have kept Strong,
But don’t be shocked if ET comes back for another season.. so this isn’t as big of a loss if this is the case
And I think he , along with Kobe and Spencer all 3 are back

Nabers is who we have to hang on to..it’s a battle

what % you think we keep him?

[HancockCountyDog]

Unless there has been a MAJOR change in mind we won't take him back

I love it!!

[KOdawg1]

yall are insane. if a 17 year old got caught up in the drama of recruiting then gets it figured out (assuming he helps the team and we want him) you take him
He's not that good. If he were a legit player, then yeah you take him back. We aren't going to take him back

[KOdawg1]

Would have loved to have kept Strong,
But don’t be shocked if ET comes back for another season.. so this isn’t as big of a loss if this is the case
And I think he , along with Kobe and Spencer all 3 are back

Nabers is who we have to hang on to..it’s a battle
Kobe and Spencer are likely gone. ET40 may come back but I doubt it. Would be huge though.

[Ari Gold]

what % you think we keep him?


50/50
And can’t blame the kid if he chooses LSU..

[Ari Gold]

Kobe and Spencer are likely gone. ET40 may come back but I doubt it. Would be huge though.

I have heard different... we may not keep all 3 but wouldn’t be shocked if 2 of the 3 are back

[Ari Gold]

Tyler Williams... don’t be surprised to find him back come spring ball...

[Ari Gold]

He's not that good. If he were a legit player, then yeah you take him back. We aren't going to take him back

Agree... The Pounders ship has sailed... and I?m not sure if was deserving to be on the boat from the start...
If he proves me wrong props to him.. But I will take that bet

[vv83]

50/50
And can?t blame the kid if he chooses LSU..

wow. horrible

[Ari Gold]

wow. horrible

Horrible how??
About 60 miles from Youngsville to BR..
Trust me the ONLY thing that will keep this kid from coming here is distance..
mom can drive an hour to watch her son play.
Mom has to drive 7 plus to watch him play here.

If we keep Him, props to the staff they have recruited their asses off not just to him but to the whole Fam

I still think it’s good news come tomorrow

[ZedFedder]

Really sad what Ole Miss did to Pounders.

[Ari Gold]

Really sad what Ole Miss did to Pounders.

Very shitty. Used the kid as Flip PR move .
But no one to blame but Pounders..

[Jarius]

I have heard different... we may not keep all 3 but wouldn’t be shocked if 2 of the 3 are back

I have been told the chance of any of those 3 come back is almost zero. I obviously hope you are correct and not me but I am almost certain I am correct.

[chef dixon]

I have been told the chance of any of those 3 come back is almost zero. I obviously hope you are correct and not me but I am almost certain I am correct.

The only way they come back is if they truly just love to play the college game. There's no way their stock rises much after already 5 years in college. ET would be like that dude DT Shackleford at Ole Miss that was like an 8th year senior. And I can't see Spencer coming back to play a 6th year with his injuries.

[KOdawg1]

I have been told the chance of any of those 3 come back is almost zero. I obviously hope you are correct and not me but I am almost certain I am correct.

I haven't been told anything, but just looking at these guys' situations, it really doesn't make too much sense for them to come back. If Errol came back, it'd be his 6th year in the program. There's nothing else he has left to prove. All he'd be doing is taking a year off his pro career. And really, the same could be said for Kobe and Marquiss.

The only seniors I can see coming back are the ones that have something left to prove. Guys like Fred Peters, maybe Javonta Payton, maybe Sharp.

[Todd4State]

Very shitty. Used the kid as Flip PR move .
But no one to blame but Pounders..

I don't understand why a team would do that to someone even their rival?

[Ari Gold]

Those 3 aren’t getting drafted this year .. and I doubt anything would change next year .,
Maybe they are looking past football.. come back get your masters for free
It won’t take any years off their pro career if they leave after the season or next year .. they will sign FA agent contracts anyway ... and try to stay in league as long as they can...

Again all 3 may not be back , all 3 may... I’m just telling everyone it’s a fact they are really considering it

[Jarius]

I haven't been told anything, but just looking at these guys' situations, it really doesn't make too much sense for them to come back. If Errol came back, it'd be his 6th year in the program. There's nothing else he has left to prove. All he'd be doing is taking a year off his pro career. And really, the same could be said for Kobe and Marquiss.

The only seniors I can see coming back are the ones that have something left to prove. Guys like Fred Peters, maybe Javonta Payton, maybe Sharp.

Our kicker is coming back to get his MBA or something like that. These are the only cases I could see for it happening a 6th year type deal. Maybe Eiland and Sharp and Payton come back for a 5th year.

[Mjoelner34]

As far as seniors coming back, I noticed that Mitchell, Payton and Ruiz did not participate in senior day during the pre-game Saturday. There may have been more but I remember that those 3 did not come out.

[KOdawg1]

As far as seniors coming back, I noticed that Mitchell, Payton and Ruiz did not participate in senior day during the pre-game Saturday. There may have been more but I remember that those 3 did not come out.

I'll be pumped if Ruiz comes back. Even though he missed one Saturday, he's the best kicker we've had in a long time. He's an NFL talent.

[LC Dawg]

I don't understand why a team would do that to someone even their rival?
I don't understand why a team would do that to a high school kid.

[Mjoelner34]

I don't understand why a team would do that to a high school kid.

Me either and it should be used against them by every school going head to head with them for a recruit. Just a plain low class, shitty thing to do. Kids getting dropped or processed is bad enough but getting one to turn down a sure thing only to shit on them after they do, takes it down to a new level.

[Todd4State]

I don't understand why a team would do that to a high school kid.


Me either and it should be used against them by every school going head to head with them for a recruit. Just a plain low class, shitty thing to do. Kids getting dropped or processed is bad enough but getting one to turn down a sure thing only to shit on them after they do, takes it down to a new level.

I'm with y'all on this. Honestly this may be the worst thing I've seen them do to someone in recruiting.

[Todd4State]

Those 3 aren’t getting drafted this year .. and I doubt anything would change next year .,
Maybe they are looking past football.. come back get your masters for free
It won’t take any years off their pro career if they leave after the season or next year .. they will sign FA agent contracts anyway ... and try to stay in league as long as they can...

Again all 3 may not be back , all 3 may... I’m just telling everyone it’s a fact they are really considering it

This is true. They're good players but they're not slam dunks to be drafted.

[Matt3467]

I'm with y'all on this. Honestly this may be the worst thing I've seen them do to someone in recruiting.


This is true. They're good players but they're not slam dunks to be drafted.

Well tbh Dan Mullen did a pretty crappy thing to a QB several years back. I can't remember his name right now though.

[ZedFedder]

Well tbh Dan Mullen did a pretty crappy thing to a QB several years back. I can't remember his name right now though.

Chason Virgil. Believe he dropped him about 16 days before signing day I think. Still, to flip a kid only to drop him a few days later is, to me, exponentially worse.

[LC Dawg]

Chason Virgil. Believe he dropped him about 16 days before signing day I think. Still, to flip a kid only to drop him a few days later is, to me, exponentially worse.
And Mullen got raked over the coals by the media. I think Finebaum may have even covered it.
Kiffin just got a kid to flip, wore a Merry Flipmas sweater to a press conference, and dropped the kid the day before signing day.
We'll see what the media does but I don't expect anything to become of it.

[Todd4State]

Well tbh Dan Mullen did a pretty crappy thing to a QB several years back. I can't remember his name right now though.

Yes- unfortunately drops happen. But at least in that case Dan and our staff helped him find another spot and we didn't try to stage some recruiting day flip and then say "never mind we don't have room after all- Merry Flipmas!"

[Todd4State]

And Mullen got raked over the coals by the media. I think Finebaum may have even covered it.
Kiffin just got a kid to flip, wore a Merry Flipmas sweater to a press conference, and dropped the kid the day before signing day.
We'll see what the media does but I don't expect anything to become of it.

You know the Clarion-Ledger won't do anything.

[Homedawg]

I'm with y'all on this. Honestly this may be the worst thing I've seen them do to someone in recruiting.

I can't recall anything as bad. I'm sure there is worse but not that I remember

[vv83]

Horrible how??
About 60 miles from Youngsville to BR..
Trust me the ONLY thing that will keep this kid from coming here is distance..
mom can drive an hour to watch her son play.
Mom has to drive 7 plus to watch him play here.

If we keep Him, props to the staff they have recruited their asses off not just to him but to the whole Fam

I still think it?s good news come tomorrow

Not the staff, know they?re working hard. This shit just happens every single year to us. Others close strong where we just try to hold onto what we have. Frustrating

[Cooterpoot]

We've lost one recruit and you guys think it's the end of the damn world.

[DEDawg]

We've lost one recruit and you guys think it's the end of the damn world.

Nobody is acting like that, calm down dude. He makes a fair point, every single year we are trying to hold onto recruits that are committed to us all damn year

[Irondawg]

Strong was a pretty big stomach punch because we thought we had won that fight. Same with Nabers and MJ. Hoping we just go 2 for 3 in holding on.

I don’t want to lose Nabers bit at least we do have some other wr lined up as plan B. Secondary could end up really good or we could whiff a bunch.

[Cooterpoot]

LSU folks say Nabors sticks with us. MJ is fine per other players he talks to. We'll still have 4 or 5 ships to fill before Feb. Hopefully the portal is our friend and a Cooper and Johnson get on board.

[Cooterpoot]

Nobody is acting like that, calm down dude. He makes a fair point, every single year we are trying to hold onto recruits that are committed to us all damn year

Every school deals with the same thing. It's not just us. That's completely false. We're winning head to head with LSU on one guy and our in-state rival on the other. We've lost one kid this cycle that matters. That's damn solid!

[msbulldog]

You know the Clarion-Ledger won't do anything.

Probably not Todd, but you can bet every high school coach in this state is seeing this.

[Ari Gold]

Not the staff, know they?re working hard. This shit just happens every single year to us. Others close strong where we just try to hold onto what we have. Frustrating

Well within the last 2 weeks
We are going to flip
Reese from Rutgers
Boone from Va Tech

Page flips from from Texas Tech to us and unless something goes south really quick we flipped Daniels from OM.. he was committed to OM at one time.. a flip is a flip..

[ZedFedder]

We secure Nabers and Daniels today and we consider that a win.

[Irondawg]

Bad smoke on MJ right now

[StarkVegasSteve]

We're going to lose MJ. Looks like this one has been planned. Sucks because we needed him for depth. But it is what it is. Kids like that struggle at the next level because they aren't constantly getting attention like they were in the recruiting process.

[Hambone]

I had posters private message me telling me to shut up and “let the people that know do the talking” regarding MJ.

Still could be wrong, but I was told by a family member of MJ he wasn’t coming two weeks ago.

[Ari Gold]

Losing MJ will hurt badly.
No sugar coating or spinning it

[HancockCountyDog]

Losing MJ will hurt badly.
No sugar coating or spinning it

Every year they claim a flip early only to be wrong on the signing;

I?d wait a minute on this.

[ZedFedder]

Steve Wiltfong is rarely wrong. He has crystal balled MJ to OM. He did miss on John Lewis, but we will see.

[KOdawg1]

Absolutely inexcusable. Pathetic.

[HancockCountyDog]

What?s the word on Nabors?

Lewis is in!

[Ari Gold]

What?s the word on Nabors?

Lewis is in!

A Battle

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Guys, can you imagine having to make a decision that will effect your life going forward and being pulled from every direction up until the last second? Football recruiting is insanity!!

[HancockCountyDog]

A Battle

Shit.

LSU just lost a stud DE to Bama, so they really start throwing the money around to keep in state kids home.

[maroonmania]

Guys, can you imagine having to make a decision that will effect your life going forward and being pulled from every direction up until the last second? Football recruiting is insanity!!

I've really got to where I hate signing day. Its just become a mess. I actually feel bad for our coaches trying to deal with it. A lot of these upper tier guys aren't making decisions on impacts to their life going forward but by what their best instant gratification is right now. I have finally come around, due to the NCAA's lack of enforcement and due to the fact that when they do enforce its totally subjective, that it would be better if we go to no recruiting rules. Just go Wild West. At least in that scenario everyone would be playing by the same rules and if somebody is getting offered something monetarily there is no rule against matching or upping the offer. If you want a guy the most then make the highest bid. Right now schools aren't playing by the same rules because certain schools the NCAA won't touch and others they will. Its also about how clever you are with cheating and how well you can execute it. Just a totally unfair landscape at the moment. If we had done some of the things LSU and OM have done over the past decade we would be on permanent probation if not be on the death penalty. Even with all that Freeze and the Network did and got caught I bet most OM fans would tell you it was worth it with the teams they had under Freeze.

[Jack Lambert]

I've really got to where I hate signing day. Its just become a mess. I actually feel bad for our coaches trying to deal with it. A lot of these upper tier guys aren't making decisions on impacts to their life going forward but by what their best instant gratification is right now. I have finally come around, due to the NCAA's lack of enforcement and due to the fact that when they do enforce its totally subjective, that it would be better if we go to no recruiting rules. Just go Wild West. At least in that scenario everyone would be playing by the same rules and if somebody is getting offered something monetarily there is no rule against matching or upping the offer. If you want a guy the most then make the highest bid. Right now schools aren't playing by the same rules because certain schools the NCAA won't touch and others they will. Its also about how clever you are with cheating and how well you can execute it. Just a totally unfair landscape at the moment. If we had done some of the things LSU and OM have done over the past decade we would be on permanent probation if not be on the death penalty. Even with all that Freeze and the Network did and got caught I bet most OM fans would tell you it was worth it with the teams they had under Freeze.

You can bet you ass that a lot of the rules were broken this recruiting season.

[Ari Gold]

I will go down with the Ship.. with both MJ and Nabers.. let’s close these 2...

[maroonmania]

You can bet you ass that a lot of the rules were broken this recruiting season.

Exactly, let's just make it where everyone can do what they want. Right now some schools can and some schools can't. There is no even enforcement of the rules in any way.

[bulldawg28]

What's the word on the Juco corner ?

[confucius say]

What's the word on the Juco corner ?

Perkins? Announcing on Christmas day

[confucius say]

Steve was just on and said nabors is sticking with us.
Daniels is 50-50. Family members on both sides of the fence

[Santiago]

I will go down with the Ship.. with both MJ and Nabers.. let?s close these 2...

I really enjoy your posts man.

[confucius say]

Losing MJ will hurt badly.
No sugar coating or spinning it

Agree.

But John Lewis was the Msu-OM head to head battle down the stretch that was the most important. Want both, but if you told me last week when they both announced they were "done" that I could have only one, give me Lewis all day.

Still want Daniels though and losing him would suck.

[Hambone]

In Ari we trust!

[HancockCountyDog]

Shea Dixon - LSU 247 guy just switched Nabers from MSU to LSU. I don't think he is like Yancy.

[bulldawg28]

Perkins? Announcing on Christmas day

Gotcha, thanks

[ZedFedder]

Nabers is gone. A rash of LSU predictions, including from Paul Jones.

[Ari Gold]

LSU wins for Nabers...

[HancockCountyDog]

Nabers is gone. A rash of LSU predictions, including from Paul Jones.

F*********K!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HancockCountyDog]

Steve was just on and said nabors is sticking with us.
Daniels is 50-50. Family members on both sides of the fence

Lets hope Steve does better in 2021.

[msstate7]

This class is looking more like the 32-40ish now, right?

[ZedFedder]

I really like Steve, and he does a good job. But he has been as wrong as he has been in a while this year.

[KOdawg1]

This class is looking more like the 32-40ish now, right?

36-40ish

[HancockCountyDog]

What is the deal with Ty Cooper? Is he really waiting until February?

[KOdawg1]

I really like Steve, and he does a good job. But he has been as wrong as he has been in a while this year.

He and Paul both have been played time and time again this recruiting cycle.

[Westdawg]

Well, Daniels, Nabers, and Deion Smith have not signed yet...at least not publicly. Let's see what happens.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Yes. Cooper has said he is waiting until Feb. With the way things are going, the Sharks have the momentum I?d say

[vv83]

Nabers is gone. A rash of LSU predictions, including from Paul Jones.

dont talk about it, everyone will call you a doomsdayer. this happens every.single.year. We lose high profile, heavy hitters on signing day. death&taxes

[confucius say]

To be fair to Steve regarding my above comment, he was on the radio and said his LSU contacts were telling him this morning nabers was sticking with state. Just wanted to clarify

[HancockCountyDog]

Well, Daniels, Nabers, and Deion Smith have not signed yet...at least not publicly. Let's see what happens.

Deion Smith? Are we really in the game there? I was told that was like LSU 99% the bears .9% and us .1%.

Not sure if official on Nabers - but the Rivals LSU people are announcing he flipped.

[ZedFedder]

Nabers is officially gone.

[FISHDAWG]

Every school deals with the same thing. It's not just us. That's completely false. We're winning head to head with LSU on one guy and our in-state rival on the other. We've lost one kid this cycle that matters. That's damn solid!

wrong

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well we picked up Price. And I would guess with Nabors gone that we'll push for Kanarius Johnson today.

[Dawgology]

Every school deals with the same thing. It's not just us. That's completely false. We're winning head to head with LSU on one guy and our in-state rival on the other. We've lost one kid this cycle that matters. That's damn solid!

What!? Lmao. This athletic program is a dumpster fire right now. Haha.

[FISHDAWG]

Deion Smith? Are we really in the game there? I was told that was like LSU 99% the bears .9% and us .1%.

Not sure if official on Nabers - but the Rivals LSU people are announcing he flipped.

Just as LSU will probably be facing sanctions and bowl forfeiture in the near future ... I don't think these kids do much research sometimes

[BayouDawg]

I hate following recruiting. But yet I just cant stop doing this to myself

[PendingTransaction]

Can we hold off A&M ???

[vv83]

there goes MJ, flipped back to ole miss. but remember cooterpoot said every school deals with this and were fine

[KOdawg1]

Kiffin owns Leach at this moment.

[StateDawg44]

Yeah we got absolutely worked by people who are willing to do what it takes. Nothing else you can say to spin it.

Class isn't bad but it's not the class we had yesterday at this time. Pathetic but after this season not sure what we have to sell besides "Imagine this in a year or two..."

[maroonmania]

dont talk about it, everyone will call you a doomsdayer. this happens every.single.year. We lose high profile, heavy hitters on signing day. death&taxes

In the old taking candy from a baby adage it seems we are the baby and our top committed recruits are the candy. Like I said, I don't even enjoy signing day any more. And I figured it would be rough this year because it normally is when we have a HC not prepared for how things go with SEC recruiting. Kiffin at TN and Bama with now the OM Network behind him knows way more about the game in the SEC than Leach does.

[HancockCountyDog]

Y'all enjoy Christmas - I'm taking a break.

Losing our best WR commit to LSU, our best Juco player to LSU, one of our best high school commits to the ****ing bears is a bit much.

This is as bad a signing day I can remember.

[Doggie_Style]

It’ has been a lack luster season and we just capped it off with a lack luster recruiting class....same ole MSU

[dawgman15]

Kiffin owns Leach at this moment.

We don?t want a snake like this in our class anyways. Not sure how these kids are so okay with being dishonest for the spot light

[maroonmania]

So we lose Nabors and Buckhalter. Only retain Knox from our 3 original four star WRs. Not the way to improve that position quickly.

[maroonmania]

Y'all enjoy Christmas - I'm taking a break.

Losing our best WR commit to LSU, our best Juco player to LSU, one of our best high school commits to the ****ing bears is a bit much.

This is as bad a signing day I can remember.

And that's saying something because most of them are pretty rough. Leach and staff definitely got worked on this one though. Should have skipped out on the Auburn game and focused on recruiting like the bears did.

[Bdawg]

Even JSU gets in on the flips. Said they flipped the #1 juco recruit from the GA bulldogs. A corner to boot. Wow. Man we need some DBs and JSU can pull one from the other dawgs.

[maroonmania]

Only person happy today would probably be Bracky Brett. Sounds like we definitely stayed compliant.

[StateDawg44]

We don?t want a snake like this in our class anyways. Not sure how these kids are so okay with being dishonest for the spot light


Sounds about right. Keep playing nice and acting above these coveted players after they've been swayed.

They are world-beaters when they are "committed". But then they become snakes all of a sudden when they dump us because the other guys worked harder. Whatever that form of work comes in is irrelevant.

[DEDawg]

We don?t want a snake like this in our class anyways. Not sure how these kids are so okay with being dishonest for the spot light

stop saying dumb stuff. yes we do want MJ in this class

[KOdawg1]

We don?t want a snake like this in our class anyways. Not sure how these kids are so okay with being dishonest for the spot light
I absolutely want MJ Daniels in our class. I'd rather win with douchebags than lose with nice guys.

[msstate7]

Can we hold off A&M ???

On who?

[dawgman15]

stop saying dumb stuff. yes we do want MJ in this class
We?ve literally had to rid the team of players like this so no I do not want him on our team.

[dawgman15]

I have never referred to any player as a world beater but thanks for putting words in my mouth

[dawgman15]

So you would be fine with accepting pounders back yeah I?m sure

[HancockCountyDog]

We?ve literally had to rid the team of players like this so no I do not want him on our team.

We flipped a kid from Rutgers and Va Tech in the last few weeks. Are those guys bad kids?

We flipped Page from Texas Tech.

Look - this is big boy recruiting, we have won battles like this - Chris Jones, Simmons, Kobe Jones, Willie Gay, and so many others. You take the talent. The rest is just bullsh!t.

[msstate7]

We flipped a kid from Rutgers and Va Tech in the last few weeks. Are those guys bad kids?

We flipped Page from Texas Tech.

Look - this is big boy recruiting, we have won battles like this - Chris Jones, Simmons, Kobe Jones, Willie Gay, and so many others. You take the talent. The rest is just bullsh!t.

You know the only flips that aren't POS thugs are the ones that flip to us

[dawgman15]

Never called him a thug or POS, he?s a snake who deceives. Feel free to @ me next time

[Irondawg]

MJ is a lot like Jarrion Jones was. Talented but probably 75% chance he doesn?t maximize it unless he has instant success.

Ranking the losses as far as impact it?s probably Strong, MJ, Nabers.

Strong was basically a lock to start at mlb unless he wasn?t as advertised. MJ was our only real HS corner commit. Nabers has good upside at WR but it?s an easier place to find a similar developmental talent.

[DEDawg]

MJ is a lot like Jarrion Jones was. Talented but probably 75% chance he doesn?t maximize it unless he has instant success.

Ranking the losses as far as impact it?s probably Strong, MJ, Nabers.

Strong was basically a lock to start at mlb unless he wasn?t as advertised. MJ was our only real HS corner commit. Nabers has good upside at WR but it?s an easier place to find a similar developmental talent.

i actually would have them ranked the opposite: Nabers, MJ, Strong. Leach has shown he can't do shit against SEC defenses and everyone who comes to bat from him says he needs his players. Arnett has shown he can hang with the big boys with significantly less talent, and think a 4 star CB who will be here 5 years is more important than a MLB who will be here 2

[Matt3467]

We flipped a kid from Rutgers and Va Tech in the last few weeks. Are those guys bad kids?

We flipped Page from Texas Tech.

Look - this is big boy recruiting, we have won battles like this - Chris Jones, Simmons, Kobe Jones, Willie Gay, and so many others. You take the talent. The rest is just bullsh!t.

I think the difference is some people have stated that certain guys were/are purposely planted as "commits" only to "flip" on signing day to provide a momentum boost and sway for other recruits.

[msbulldog]

i actually would have them ranked the opposite: Nabers, MJ, Strong. Leach has shown he can't do shit against SEC defenses and everyone who comes to bat from him says he needs his players. Arnett has shown he can hang with the big boys with significantly less talent, and think a 4 star CB who will be here 5 years is more important than a MLB who will be here 2

MJ is a 3 star.

[msbulldog]

I think the difference is some people have stated that certain guys were/are purposely planted as "commits" only to "flip" on signing day to provide a momentum boost and sway for other recruits.

I'm pretty sure MJ was a long time plant, he did commit ot TSUN first. And it was MJ that turned Pounders and Burkhalter in to Leach to get their offers jerked, so he could have flipmas all to himself.

[DEDawg]

MJ is a 3 star.

nope 92 4 star

[KOdawg1]

Guys it doesn't matter if he's a 3 star or a 4 star. He's a 6'3 corner who can play. That's all that matters

[msbulldog]

nope 92 4 star

In 247 only composite 247SPORTS COMPOSITE?
0.8872 3 star
NATL. 388
History
ATH
26
MS
7

[DEDawg]

In 247 only composite 247SPORTS COMPOSITE?
0.8872 3 star
NATL. 388
History
ATH
26
MS
7

composite is trash come on man

[bulldawg28]

Guys it doesn't matter if he's a 3 star or a 4 star. He's a 6'3 corner who can play. That's all that matters

I bet he ends up playing WR for Ole Miss.

[HoopsDawg]

MJ is a lot like Jarrion Jones was. Talented but probably 75% chance he doesn?t maximize it unless he has instant success.

Ranking the losses as far as impact it?s probably Strong, MJ, Nabers.

Strong was basically a lock to start at mlb unless he wasn?t as advertised. MJ was our only real HS corner commit. Nabers has good upside at WR but it?s an easier place to find a similar developmental talent.

Agree, Strong was the biggest disappointment for me. We lost a starter in the middle of our defense.

[KOdawg1]

I bet he ends up playing WR for Ole Miss.

Maybe. I think he's an NFL Corner though

[bulldawg28]

Maybe. I think he's an NFL Corner though

If he's going to Ole Miss it's for the offense, wasted talent.

[StateDawg44]

Never called him a thug or POS, he?s a snake who deceives. Feel free to @ me next time

Ok a snake..... or any other word you choose. The praise to ridicule routine is what we are referring to. Unless it's the other way around of course.

Continue playing naive though.

[StateDawg44]

I'm pretty sure MJ was a long time plant, he did commit ot TSUN first. And it was MJ that turned Pounders and Burkhalter in to Leach to get their offers jerked, so he could have flipmas all to himself.

I hope you forgot the sarcasterisks here. There is no way MJ turned Pounders and Buckhaulter in just so he could "steal the spotlight" when he flipped.

[ZedFedder]

Daniels said in an interview that he didn’t make his final decision until 15 minutes before he signed. Not sure if he is being honest, but that is interesting to say the least.

[ShotgunDawg]

Daniels said in an interview that he didn’t make his final decision until 15 minutes before he signed. Not sure if he is being honest, but that is interesting to say the least.

Not exactly a good process or intelligence there. I expect he'll wash up like the rest of the ones that do this

[HancockCountyDog]

Daniels said in an interview that he didn’t make his final decision until 15 minutes before he signed. Not sure if he is being honest, but that is interesting to say the least.

Yeah - his family was wearing bear gear and the bears released his commitment video within minutes of him signing. They already had his paperwork, the same way we had Simmons' paperwork hours before his announcement.

[Irondawg]

He can’t even be honest after the fact. Might end up a great player but that’s a red flag. Maybe he ended up at the right school

[ZedFedder]

My final say on today's action is this. It really does stink to lose Strong and Nabers. Really good players I think. With Daniels, there is no way around that he is a very big loss. You can try to make it sound better but you cant. In the same breath, though, I really do have doubts about his future just because of how he handled all this. Even a guy like Chris Jones, who was a great player, didn't really realize his full potential at State. Look at other guys in the past who have done similar things: Kailo Moore, Nick Brassell, Armani Linton... I can't think of one that really panned out well. Time will tell.

[ShotgunDawg]

Deonte Anderson is in the boat. Won't be announced till Jan 2nd, but he signed. There's a 4 star DE for you

[FISHDAWG]

Daniels said in an interview that he didn?t make his final decision until 15 minutes before he signed. Not sure if he is being honest, but that is interesting to say the least.

he's trying to be amicable - It's my belief he knew exactly where he was going and bought into the flipmas thing for spite

[FISHDAWG]

Deonte Anderson is in the boat. Won't be announced till Jan 2nd, but he signed. There's a 4 star DE for you

that's like a good dose of fine whiskey at the end of a long tough day ... thanks for the good news

[ZedFedder]

Deonte Anderson is in the boat. Won't be announced till Jan 2nd, but he signed. There's a 4 star DE for you

How do you know?

[bulldawg28]

Deonte Anderson is in the boat. Won't be announced till Jan 2nd, but he signed. There's a 4 star DE for you

Big get and exactly what we need!

[FeelTheTingle]

Forgive me if already posted.

Will Rodarius Thomas sign today?

[ShotgunDawg]

How do you know?

Hadad just said it on the radio & it's spread

[Westdawg]

Deonte Anderson is in the boat. Won't be announced till Jan 2nd, but he signed. There's a 4 star DE for you

That guy is blazing!!! Plays in a similar defense (30 front)
Here's his HUDL link on his Twitter profile. He's "announcing" on 1/2/21 at an All American game. This is a kid that is very very good.

https://twitter.com/h2athletes/status/1336071603898216449?s=21

[confucius say]

We flipped a kid from Rutgers and Va Tech in the last few weeks. Are those guys bad kids?

We flipped Page from Texas Tech.

Look - this is big boy recruiting, we have won battles like this - Chris Jones, Simmons, Kobe Jones, Willie Gay, and so many others. You take the talent. The rest is just bullsh!t.

None of those guys were committed to another school when they signed with us. Big difference.

[msbulldog]

I hope you forgot the sarcasterisks here. There is no way MJ turned Pounders and Buckhaulter in just so he could "steal the spotlight" when he flipped.

You obviously aren't paying attention.

[msbulldog]

Yeah - his family was wearing bear gear and the bears released his commitment video within minutes of him signing. They already had his paperwork, the same way we had Simmons' paperwork hours before his announcement.

Ya'll are just ignoring the obvious this was clearly a set-up by (merry flipmas T-shirt) Kiffen.

[bobcat91]

Thomas has signed

[ZedFedder]

Something to keep in mind. While this day hasn't been a good one, if Perkins and Deonte Anderson signed, thats two big pieces.

[bulldawg28]

Something to keep in mind. While this day hasn't been a good one, if Perkins and Deonte Anderson signed, thats two big pieces.

Perkins and Anderson are big if we can sign them.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Anderson has signed. Waiting to publicly announce at all star game

[Irondawg]

Perkins is big - if we miss him it means we batted about .100 on our secondary targets as I’m starting to think CJ is going to have a hard time turning down a prestigious academic degeee

[StateDawg44]

You obviously aren't paying attention.

I've been fairly on top of recruiting season. I'm not expert and don't pretend or care to be. I've kept up with it for sure though.

But, do you realize how much orchestration that would take to pull all of what you are implying would take?

Are you saying MJ alone orchestrated getting Buckhaulter & Pounders to leave MSU for OM, just so MJ could be the only MSU commit to flip on signing day? That way he got all of the hype and attention.

-or-

Are you saying OM got MJ to get them to flip or be dropped by MSU, just so OM could flip buckhaulter & pounders in order to take 2 commits from MSU while knowing they had MJ in their back pocket the whole time? So they'd plant MJ to screw us out of two players and then drop one of those to just to screw us.

Either option is very very elaborate and sounds crazy.

Sour grapes doesn't even begin to touch what you are saying.



Either of the two scenarios I've listed above is beyond delusional and giving OM entirely too much credit right????

[Westdawg]

New target for class of '21:

Donte Balfour 6'2" 175
3 ⭐️ WR/S
Stark, FL

He's got really, really good film. I'm surprised this was a "wait-until-signing-day offer" - guess we thought MJ was signing. The one issue is that this kid was a Plan B for a lot of high profile schools. He's had a lot of Power 5 offers in the last 48 hrs

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10494103/5fb703a7ab92e8013cb09f8c

[StateDawg44]

New target for possibly class of '21:

Donte Balfour 6'2" 175
3 ⭐️ WR/S
Stark, FL

He's got really, really good film. I'm surprised this was a "wait-until-signing-day offer" - guess we thought MJ was signing. The one issue is that this kid was a Plan B for a lot of high profile schools. He's had a lot of Power 5 offers in the last 48 hrs

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10494103/5fb703a7ab92e8013cb09f8c

Get this man on the team.

[Santiago]

New target for class of '21:

Donte Balfour 6'2" 175
3 ⭐️ WR/S
Stark, FL

He's got really, really good film. I'm surprised this was a "wait-until-signing-day offer" - guess we thought MJ was signing. The one issue is that this kid was a Plan B for a lot of high profile schools. He's had a lot of Power 5 offers in the last 48 hrs

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10494103/5fb703a7ab92e8013cb09f8c

I would assume he now waits until Feb, but if he was offerred by his preferred school he could still sign by Friday, right?

[yjnkdawg]

I've been fairly on top of recruiting season. I'm not expert and don't pretend or care to be. I've kept up with it for sure though.

But, do you realize how much orchestration that would take to pull all of what you are implying would take?

Are you saying MJ alone orchestrated getting Buckhaulter & Pounders to leave MSU for OM, just so MJ could be the only MSU commit to flip on signing day? That way he got all of the hype and attention.

-or-

Are you saying OM got MJ to get them to flip or be dropped by MSU, just so OM could flip buckhaulter & pounders in order to take 2 commits from MSU while knowing they had MJ in their back pocket the whole time? So they'd plant MJ to screw us out of two players and then drop one of those to just to screw us.

Either option is very very elaborate and sounds crazy.

Sour grapes doesn't even begin to touch what you are saying.



Either of the two scenarios I've listed above is beyond delusional and giving OM entirely too much credit right????


Yep! They had wanted to originally flip at least 2 today (Buckhaulter and Daniels). Not sure now how they would have handled Pounders' de-commitment from us, but they definitely did not want him signing with us.

[yjnkdawg]

I would assume he now waits until Feb, but if he was offerred by his preferred school he could still sign by Friday, right?



Yep - Wednesday - Friday.

[hailstate88]

Most likely Friday

[hailstate88]

Is he for sure committing during the game? I?ll be there!

[Westdawg]

New WR target:

Jay Hampton 6'1 170
Amory HS

https://www.hudl.com/profile/9069939

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

They want Hampton as a DB I believe

[Cooterpoot]

This staff has been a disappointment on the field and the recruiting trail. This has been one of the worst seasons I can remember. We got our teeth kicked in yesterday. And we aren't getting Balfour. You can forget that. Just a shit show.

[ShotgunDawg]

This staff has been a disappointment on the field and the recruiting trail. This has been one of the worst seasons I can remember. We got our teeth kicked in yesterday. And we aren't getting Balfour. You can forget that. Just a shit show.

Still signed the best offensive class in school history yesterday

[msstate7]

Still signed the best offensive class in school history yesterday

Offensive only last 4 classes:

2018:
4 4-stars
Next highest rating - 87

2019:
1 5-star
1 4-star
Next highest - 87

2020:
3 4-star
Next highest - 88

2021:
3 4-star
Next highest - 87

Not sure I see a real difference