2021 MSU Football Recruiting Discussion Thread

[Westdawg]

Myzel Williams just decommitted 🤔

https://twitter.com/williamsmyzel/status/1333512772773154818?s=21

[ShotgunDawg]

Myzel Williams just decommitted ��

https://twitter.com/williamsmyzel/status/1333512772773154818?s=21

Drop. With Thomas committing today and Calvin Johnson from French Camp being a safety 4 star talent, he got recruited over

[ZedFedder]

Stinks because he was all dawg. I understand it’s part of it, but it still stinks.

[ShotgunDawg]

Stinks because he was all dawg. I understand it’s part of it, but it still stinks.

Agree

[msu15]

We signed Chris Smith at 6'1, 191; Rodarius is listed at 6'1, 185

Their muscle mass isn't anywhere close to the same. I worked out with Chris from his senior year at MHS all the way through his career at MSU.

[ShotgunDawg]

Starkville RB Howard decommits

Best for all involved. Hopefully the kid finds a place & develops into a great player

[StarkVegasSteve]

Starkville RB Howard decommits

Best for all involved. Hopefully the kid finds a place & develops into a great player

Ahmonte Watkins come on down.

[ShotgunDawg]

Ahmonte Watkins come on down.

Boy I wish. May be Hunter.

[Cooterpoot]

It sure feels good to have a staff willing to make adjustments to get the best players available. Hunter is a matter of time. I feel good about our odds of getting Watkins or White but we're taking the best available guys and going after some needs. DL/DB is the need. Should see some movement there real soon.

[KOdawg1]

Starkville RB Howard decommits

Best for all involved. Hopefully the kid finds a place & develops into a great player

The staff ain't playing this week. Good to see they're serious about making sure we have SEC talent on our team. Best of luck to Howard, and I'm sure he'll find a good landing spot.

[KOdawg1]

It sure feels good to have a staff willing to make adjustments to get the best players available. Hunter is a matter of time. I feel good about our odds of getting Watkins or White but we're taking the best available guys and going after some needs. DL is the need. Should see some movement there real soon.

As in players getting dropped? Marshall is the obvious choice there.

Fingers crossed for Demarcus Smith.

[Irondawg]

Wonder if we're thinking Hunter as a RB or still think long term he's a Safety.

If we can't get Watkins I'd be fine with taking S. Price as a RB

[ShotgunDawg]

The staff ain't playing this week. Good to see they're serious about making sure we have SEC talent on our team. Best of luck to Howard, and I'm sure he'll find a good landing spot.

Hell yeah they're serious. You don't run off half the good players on your team unless you're dead nuts serious

[ShotgunDawg]

As in players getting dropped? Marshall is the obvious choice there.

Fingers crossed for Demarcus Smith.

Eatman's time is coming

[Ari Gold]

Best of luck to Howard... maybe he can follow his teammate to Oxford.. **
Seriously tho Conference USA or sun belt and hopefully he has a great career..

[Ari Gold]

It sure feels good to have a staff willing to make adjustments to get the best players available. Hunter is a matter of time. I feel good about our odds of getting Watkins or White but we're taking the best available guys and going after some needs. DL/DB is the need. Should see some movement there real soon.

Yes.. Joe pulled the trigger on Howard way too early. Excellent move by CML and staff..
even if Watkins or White aren’t signed , it can be used on someone who might be a contributor at another spot

[ShotgunDawg]

Yes.. Joe pulled the trigger on Howard way too early. Excellent move by CML and staff..
even if Watkins or White aren’t signed , it can be used on someone who might be a contributor at another spot

With the transfer portal now, you simply cannot afford to sign kids that can't play for you. There are too many transfers that can

[ZedFedder]

Think Steve said we plan to hang on to Trevon Marshall. I thought he was having a pretty good year from what I remember.

[Ari Gold]

And in regards to Buck.. would love to have him... but I’m more worried with holding on to Nabers more than where Buck ends up
We are also on Simeon Price that just decommited form Cocks..
Would be a very nice pick up and could EASILY replace losing Buck , would be an Upgrade actually IMO...

[ShotgunDawg]

And in regards to Buck.. would love to have him... but I’m more worried with holding on to Nabers more than where Buck ends up
We are also on Simeon Price that just decommited form Cocks..
Would be a very nice pick up and could EASILY replace losing Buck , would be an Upgrade actually IMO...

The rivalry takes over with the flipable guys.

I think the fear of losing Buck has way more to do with how it may effect MJ Daniels than it does with Buck.

[Ari Gold]

The rivalry takes over with the flipable guys.

I think the fear of losing Buck has way more to do with how it may effect MJ Daniels than it does with Buck.

I’m not worried about Daniels... if he flips it would be to Texas AM no matter where Buck ends up

[ShotgunDawg]

I’m not worried about Daniels... if he flips it would be to Texas AM no matter where Buck ends up

Doesn't the odd of him not flipping to A&M go up if Buck sticks with MSU?

And BTW, A&M's recruiting ability at George County seems really awkward.

[HoopsDawg]

Yes.. Joe pulled the trigger on Howard way too early. Excellent move by CML and staff..
even if Watkins or White aren?t signed , it can be used on someone who might be a contributor at another spot

I agree. I do wish they had done this a month or so ago to give the kid more time to find another spot.

[HoopsDawg]

Eatman's time is coming

I don't think anyone considers Eatman a commit. I'm not sure why Genespage lists him as a commitment. They do that with a player every year.

We have 8 spots to fill. There's a good chance we lose either Buckhaulter or Nabers hopefully not both. So might have 9 spots to fill.

Targets appear to be: Alexander KSU transfer, Hunter, D. Smith, Barber, Cooper, Calvin Johnson, and 2 best available. Hopefully one of those 2 is a grad transfer DE-major need

[Ari Gold]

I agree. I do wish they had done this a month or so ago to give the kid more time to find another spot.

He will be fine.. has until Feb if he needs it
His landing spots will be easy to find... will be shocked if it’s a P5 or even AAC

[StarkVegasSteve]

Looks like we're on a UCF DE transfer. He just tweeted out #HailState. Randy Charlton, 3 star out of HS.

[Ari Gold]

Little FYI on Nabers.. he isnt going to Baton Rouge this weekend as of now.. that’s a very good sign..

[HoopsDawg]

Little FYI on Nabers.. he isnt going to Baton Rouge this weekend as of now.. that’s a very good sign..

Nice. The Rebs are pretty confident on Buckhalter so we need to hold onto Nabers for sure.

[ShotgunDawg]

Little FYI on Nabers.. he isnt going to Baton Rouge this weekend as of now.. that’s a very good sign..

Good. Hopefully LSU getting their shit pushed in this weekend will end any interest he has in them.

[ShotgunDawg]

Nice. The Rebs are pretty confident on Buckhalter so we need to hold onto Nabers for sure.

The Rebs are confident on at least one flip a year & they bat 50/50 on that.

As I've heard, Buck has some OM people near him & they are obviously the ones that are passing along that info, but it's tough to say if they're just hopefully biased or if there's really any smoke.

Our people seem pretty confident. Either way, as long as Buck doesn't effect Daniels, I'm good either way

[HoopsDawg]

Looks like we're on a UCF DE transfer. He just tweeted out #HailState. Randy Charlton, 3 star out of HS.

Nice find. 6'3, 260. Had 18 tackles and 2 sacks in only 5 games this year before he entered the portal. He would have 2 years to play for us. Had an issue there, but doesn't appear too major. He's out of Miami.

[KOdawg1]

Either way, as long as Buck doesn't effect Daniels, I'm good either way
This. We can replace Buck with Simeon Price and I won't lose sleep. The Rebs live for flipping recruits, but it's not a can't miss guy they'd be flipping. MJ Daniels is the main priority here.

[Cooterpoot]

As in players getting dropped? Marshall is the obvious choice there.

Fingers crossed for Demarcus Smith.

I'm not sure we're going to cut him loose. Get the feeling he's going to stick, but we'll see. He's going to grow into an inside guy.

[HancockCountyDog]

What is everyone?s take on Hunter, I?ve heard different things.

[KOdawg1]

What is everyone?s take on Hunter, I?ve heard different things.

He's a better RB than Howard.

Give him a shot, and if it doesn't work out, he can move to safety. Win-win for everyone.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What is everyone?s take on Hunter, I?ve heard different things.

He's probably a take, but if we get Watkins, White, or Goodwin then he'll be moved to defense. I don't see the need for this to be a two RB class with Marks, Johnson, and Witherspoon all being Freshman again next year.

[msu15]

He's probably a take, but if we get Watkins, White, or Goodwin then he'll be moved to defense. I don't see the need for this to be a two RB class with Marks, Johnson, and Witherspoon all being Freshman again next year.

Witherspoon is a sophomore

[HancockCountyDog]

He's probably a take, but if we get Watkins, White, or Goodwin then he'll be moved to defense. I don't see the need for this to be a two RB class with Marks, Johnson, and Witherspoon all being Freshman again next year.

Ok - this is pretty much what I have heard. I wish we could find a few front seven guys as well.

[HailStateSZN19]

He's probably a take, but if we get Watkins, White, or Goodwin then he'll be moved to defense. I don't see the need for this to be a two RB class with Marks, Johnson, and Witherspoon all being Freshman again next year.

Who is Goodwin? First I’ve seen that name.

[bulldawg28]

He's probably a take, but if we get Watkins, White, or Goodwin then he'll be moved to defense. I don't see the need for this to be a two RB class with Marks, Johnson, and Witherspoon all being Freshman again next year.

Goodwin isn't coming

[Westdawg]

OL commit Makylan Pounders said he's got some big news tonight.....he jumping ship or does he know of a new commit?

[KOdawg1]

OL commit Makylan Pounders said he's got some big news tonight.....he jumping ship or does he know of a new commit?

Probably releasing a list of his finalists.

[Westdawg]

Probably releasing a list of his finalists.

He's already committed, isn't he? If he's releasing a list that would mean he's no longer committed

[KOdawg1]

He's already committed, isn't he? If he's releasing a list that would mean he's no longer committed

Kid loves attention. None of it makes sense.

[HoopsDawg]

Kid loves attention. None of it makes sense.

Luke has called him. Let's hope he doesn't flip.

[Cooterpoot]

Luke has called him. Let's hope he doesn't flip.

He's not flipping. Luke carries little weight instate. One guy really.

[KOdawg1]

Ole Miss is about to make things interesting these next few weeks. Beating us on the field wasn't good enough for them. Makylan Pounders, Brandon Buckhaulter, MJ Daniels, Demarcus Smith, Ty Cooper. These are battles we need to win.

[Cooterpoot]

I don't see Pounders or Daniels flipping. Copper is a wait and see no matter.
I like the guys we're probably about to get.

[Todd4State]

Ole Miss is about to make things interesting these next few weeks. Beating us on the field wasn't good enough for them. Makylan Pounders, Brandon Buckhaulter, MJ Daniels, Demarcus Smith, Ty Cooper. These are battles we need to win.

I think they love "winning" recruiting more than they love winning the Egg Bowl.

[KOdawg1]

I think they love "winning" recruiting more than they love winning the Egg Bowl.

Absolutely. Recruiting is their main sport. Everything else is secondary.

[Todd4State]

Absolutely. Recruiting is their main sport. Everything else is secondary.

It's ironic to me. Remember the 2010 Army AA debacle? And then four years later when those guys should have been juniors and seniors we beat them and you have Hugh Freeze telling his team "We need to recruit better."

[MetEdDawg]

Makylan has been committed to us since April. So tonight he announces his Top 5 of us, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Missouri, and Memphis.

I find that odd.

[ShotgunDawg]

Makylan has been committed to us since April. So tonight he announces his Top 5 of us, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Missouri, and Memphis.

I find that odd.

It is odd, but it usually means their just building up excitement. He'll be a dawg

[Captain Falcon]

Makylan has been committed to us since April. So tonight he announces his Top 5 of us, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Missouri, and Memphis.

I find that odd.

That is not remotely odd based on what recruiting has become in the last decade. Not saying that there is nothing to worry about with him, I have no idea, there could be or it may be nothing.

But there are committed kids that do stuff like this every single year. It is the world we live in now.

[MetEdDawg]

That is not remotely odd based on what recruiting has become in the last decade. Not saying that there is nothing to worry about with him, I have no idea, there could be or it may be nothing.

But there are committed kids that do stuff like this every single year. It is the world we live in now.

I don't disagree, but my question is did he tell the staff he was opening his recruitment back up? Was our staff aware that this would take place? That's my biggest concern.

I know our staff seems to be re-evaluating a lot right now in the recruiting side and maybe it's possible this is related. But it's definitely more on the not common side of things we have to deal with. Kid didn't decommit. He just announced a Top 5. That's just strange.

[Cooterpoot]

Like someone else said, he likes the attention. He's drumming up some. Let him have his fun and sign with us in a couple weeks.

[ZedFedder]

Saw where Paul put in a CB for Buckhaulter to OM with a 9/10 confidence rate. Go get Simeon Price if he flips and I feel fine. Also, a guy who was committed to OM, then State, and then OM (if he flips), usually does not pan out.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we get Price then it evens out.

We honestly need to move on from these prima donnas that keep doing all this bs. If you want to act uncommited then don't commit. It's honestly that simple. The good one's don't do this crap. Simmons never did any of this......1st round pick. Fletcher Cox never did any of this......1st round pick. Although OM tried to make it seem like he was, Chris Jones never did any of this......2nd round pick. The one's that just want to play are the one's you want. It's why you haven't seen any of it from Robertson, Knox, or Nabors. Coincidentally, that's why they'll play next year. They keep their head down and just grind. People who want to be front and center in all this bs are the one's that struggle to adjust at the next level because everyone isn't telling them how great they are for doing the ordinary things P5 players are supposed to do......RANT OVER.

[KOdawg1]

Think we're gonna replace him with Kanarius Johnson

[HancockCountyDog]

If we get Price then it evens out.

We honestly need to move on from these prima donnas that keep doing all this bs. If you want to act uncommited then don't commit. It's honestly that simple. The good one's don't do this crap. Simmons never did any of this......1st round pick. Fletcher Cox never did any of this......1st round pick. Although OM tried to make it seem like he was, Chris Jones never did any of this......2nd round pick. The one's that just want to play are the one's you want. It's why you haven't seen any of it from Robertson, Knox, or Nabors. Coincidentally, that's why they'll play next year. They keep their head down and just grind. People who want to be front and center in all this bs are the one's that struggle to adjust at the next level because everyone isn't telling them how great they are for doing the ordinary things P5 players are supposed to do......RANT OVER.

THere was a ton of drama with Fletcher Cox and Chris Jones, just didn't play out over twitter. Some of these kids just enjoy having their recruiting play out online.

[Irondawg]

I’m still going to beat the S Price drum - I think he’s better than Thomas or Johnson but we will see

[msu15]

THere was a ton of drama with Fletcher Cox and Chris Jones, just didn't play out over twitter. Some of these kids just enjoy having their recruiting play out online.

Josh Boyd and Tyler Russell also decommited privately, and Tyler was very close to going with Spurrier and South Carolina. We had a long talk about it. Distance won out.

[Irondawg]

I always get bad for Tyler because he just wasn’t a Mullen qb but he always gave us his all and was a good team leader

[KOdawg1]

I always get bad for Tyler because he just wasn’t a Mullen qb but he always gave us his all and was a good team leader

He was also the guy before Dak so he kinda gets forgotten. He was a solid QB.

[HoopsDawg]

I always get bad for Tyler because he just wasn’t a Mullen qb but he always gave us his all and was a good team leader

Probably should have played for Spurrier. Mullen has to have a running QB. Though Trask isn't running that much, but Trask has a ton of weapons.

[msu15]

Probably should have played for Spurrier. Mullen has to have a running QB. Though Trask isn't running that much, but Trask has a ton of weapons.

And Tyler actually felt the same way. Spurrier was really pushing him on Tyler's fit in his scheme vs the spread option.

[MetEdDawg]

Buckhaulter decommits per his Twitter.

[ShotgunDawg]

Buckhaulter decommits per his Twitter.

Dropped or at least replaceable to the point where he wasn't worth continuing to recruit

[DEDawg]

Dropped

You sure? That seems like a really odd drop unless we?re positive the South Carolina kid is coming and really like him more.

[ShotgunDawg]

You sure? That seems like a really odd drop unless we?re positive the South Carolina kid is coming and really like him more.

or making room for others.

Buck's SR film left a lot to be desired. He's a nice prospect, but not good enough to continue to recruit when other, similar prospects want to be Dawgs or we can use that spot on transfer that can play immediately

Do you fight tooth & nail to keep a player you're meh on or just let him go & offer other players you may like a little more or can help sooner?

[Ari Gold]

Buck isn’t worth the time , effort, or headache...
too many other kids we have to hold on to , Buck is easily replaceable..

[Ari Gold]

or making room for others.

Buck's SR film left a lot to be desired. He's a nice prospect, but not good enough to continue to recruit when other, similar prospects want to be Dawgs or we can use that spot on transfer that can play immediately

Do you fight tooth & nail to keep a player you're meh on or just let him go & offer other players you may like a little more or can help sooner?

He didn’t dominate at a lower class academy... move on and upgrade

[HoopsDawg]

It's fine but better hold on to Nabers. We definitely need 4-5 WRs in this class.

[ZedFedder]

Nabers would be a huge loss. Think we are going to have to fight for him.

[msbulldog]

Just UM flipping their commitment again, something they get their jollies doing.

[KOdawg1]

This staff is showing that they're not playing along with silly recruiting games.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Just UM flipping their commitment again, something they get their jollies doing.

I honestly think they orchestrate this whenever they can. Find a guy willing to play along and give him an "incentive" to carry it out. Remember the guy from around Rosedale who did this a few years back? Even had a catchy nickname for everyone to remember...except for me I guess. Mine is due to old age however. Bet he didn't play 50 snaps in his whole career up there. Somebody will remember who I'm talking about.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we get Price and hang on to everyone else then Buck isn't a loss and we get a very good WR in Price. However, if Nabors bolts is where things get VERY dicey. Nabors and Knox are what's propping up this WR class. We need both of them to stay. LSU losing so many receivers has me worried that they could be pushing Nabors on early playing time.

[chef dixon]

It seems like to me we have plenty of WR. We need meat

[HancockCountyDog]

Can someone put together a hot board - with number of spots left and the kids we expect to fill those spots;

[HoopsDawg]

Can someone put together a hot board - with number of spots left and the kids we expect to fill those spots;

We just picked up a starting DE for next season: Randy Charlton

[DEDawg]

We just picked up a starting DE for next season: Randy Charlton

hugeeee good job staff. why was he dismissed at UCF?

[HoopsDawg]

hugeeee good job staff. why was he dismissed at UCF?

there is an article about it. Sounds like he was a minor actor in the incident. Not the kind of thing that should prevent him from playing football again.

[ZedFedder]

Big pickup.

[HancockCountyDog]

Great job - big pickup.

[Ari Gold]

And now close the safety from Kstate ...

[HailStateSZN19]

And now close the safety from Kstate ...

Who else do you see us closing with Ari?

[KOdawg1]

Can someone put together a hot board - with number of spots left and the kids we expect to fill those spots;

We can sign 26 including transfers. With Charlton transferring in, we have 18 filled. Johnathan Alexander is who we're after as another grad transfer, so that's 19. That's 7 spots left.

QB: done

RB: 1; probably Jarquez Hunter

WR: potentially 1; we have 4 committed but could take 5 if we want. Kanarius Johnson, Simeon Price, Keon Coleman are some candidates.

OL: 1, possibly 2 if we don't take another WR; Austin Barber and Albert Reese.

DL: 2; Ty Cooper, Jaden Jones, Demarcus Smith, Zykeus Strong

LB: probably done; you take John Lewis if he wants to come

CB: 1; Justin Walley, Marvin Covington, Jadarius Perkins

S: probably done if you get Alexander. You let Calloway back if he wants.

So that's roughly 6 more spots filled, leaving you with an extra scholly for a grad transfer or a best available like Calloway or Lewis.

[Ari Gold]

Who else do you see us closing with Ari?

With high school kids
I think we flip Walley
Possibly flip Calloway
Out of DE’s Jones Cooper Smith I think we get 2 and if it’s only one we will take another if there is a best available ..
We add another OL
We add another WR ( if it’s a good take )
And we add athletes Hunter and Johnson

[StateDawg44]

With high school kids
I think we flip Walley
Possibly flip Calloway
Out of DE’s Jones Cooper Smith I think we get 2 and if it’s only one we will take another if there is a best available ..
We add another OL
We add another WR ( if it’s a good take )
And we add athletes Hunter and Johnson

Man that would be a helluva close.

I'd be pretty damn happy with this for sure.

[HoopsDawg]

And now close the safety from Kstate ...

Do we know why he is transferring from Kstate?

[Westdawg]

Rumors brewing of Calloway flipping to State????

[KOdawg1]

Rumors brewing of Calloway flipping to State????

Doubt it. And I hate that. Because he's a player we have to have

[Irondawg]

I would love to see us get Walley - we need some CB in this class

[HoopsDawg]

I would love to see us get Walley - we need some CB in this class

He looked really good his senior year.

[ShotgunDawg]

He looked really good his senior year.

Looks really good on film. Looks like a legit SEC CB

If we don't get him, I'm just going to assume it was impossible to get him. There would be no other explanation

[HoopsDawg]

Looks really good on film. Looks like a legit SEC CB

If we don't get him, I'm just going to assume it was impossible to get him. There would be no other explanation

We kind of mucked up his recruiting early in the cycle. I think there were mixed reviews on him. A lot of people thought his brother was the better player by a good margin. But he had a strong senior season. He was clearly the best player on the field in the 6A South State Championship game last Friday. Definitely looked the part of an SEC DB. I think our staff has corrected their error, but we will see.

[Todd4State]

It would be funny if we dropped Greek and offered Altmyer.

[ShotgunDawg]

It would be funny if we dropped Greek and offered Altmyer.

I don't think Altmyer would go for that due to us bringing in a QB that's a good bit better than him

[Ari Gold]

It would be funny if we dropped Greek and offered Altmyer.

Greek > Altmeyer

[Matt3467]

Greek > Altmeyer

Apparently Jack Kristofek > Altmyer too since we seem to be interested in him. Looks like we're not done looking for QBs after all.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Apparently Jack Kristofek > Altmyer too since we seem to be interested in him. Looks like we're not done looking for QBs after all.

walk-on. not even a comparable situation.

[ZedFedder]

Greek > Altmeyer

Greek has some legit mobility for a guy his size. I don't think he is better than Sawyer Robertson, but he definitely isn't a slouch for a number 2 QB.

[Matt3467]

walk-on. not even a comparable situation.

Hm didn't realize he would be a walk-on

[ShotgunDawg]

Apparently Jack Kristofek > Altmyer too since we seem to be interested in him. Looks like we're not done looking for QBs after all.

Walk on but could be a huge recruit in the sense that, if he picks things up quickly, he could be the backup next year & allow us to RS Robertson.

[KOdawg1]

Greek > Altmeyer

I disagree. Greek has a better frame and size. But his stats aren't good. I think it's Sawyer, Luke, and then Greek. Hell I would've probably taken Ty Keyes over Greek.

[ShotgunDawg]

I disagree. Greek has a better frame and size. But his stats aren't good. I think it's Sawyer, Luke, and then Greek. Hell I would've probably taken Ty Keyes over Greek.

We'll see. There's obviously something about Greek that we don't know

[KOdawg1]

We'll see. There's obviously something about Greek that we don't know

I mean I trust Leach and everything. And he's probably a smart kid since Duke has offered him. Like you said, we'll see

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

We'll see. There's obviously something about Greek that we don't know

Here are a few things on Greek. First one is from Joel Coleman. A write up last summer after his commitment. I read this back then...says played for his dad and ran similar offense to Leach. Leach was also recruiting him at Wash. St. when he was there, so they have had a long relationship.

I think he's a heck of a pickup as a back up and hell, let him compete with Sawyer for the starting job along with Will....let the best man win. I'm all for having competition for the QB position and having transfers every year if it comes down to it. Means we have a legit QB starter and capable backup.

https://www.si.com/college/mississippistate/football/greek-recruiting-update-6520

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/daniel-greek-220363#school-interests

https://www.si.com/college/recruiting/football/daniel-greek-highlights-evaluation

[Todd4State]

Jim Riley commits as a preferred walk-on. Good pick up in my opinion as a walk-on. He may be able to play center for us in five years.

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Jim Riley commits as a preferred walk-on. Good pick up in my opinion as a walk-on. He may be able to play center for us in five years.

If he can get it to the QB without having the QB practice catching ground balls, he may be able to start now. What'd we have, two against OM. Both on critical downs. We've got to get that corrected next spring.

[ShotgunDawg]

https://twitter.com/WRsSpurrierMSU/status/1335009128410918921?s=20

[KOdawg1]

Man, this new coaching staff has our 247 guys looking bad. It's obvious they don't have the solid sources that they used to. I know recruiting is fluid, but they're missing bad lately.

[HoopsDawg]

Man, this new coaching staff has our 247 guys looking bad. It's obvious they don't have the solid sources that they used to. I know recruiting is fluid, but they're missing bad lately.

What's up. Do they just keep giving bad info?

[KOdawg1]

What's up. Do they just keep giving bad info?

They've just been wrong a lot lately. Yancy and company at the Spirit seem to be better connected so far.

[HoopsDawg]

They've just been wrong a lot lately. Yancy and company at the Spirit seem to be better connected so far.

That's not good. I think it's important for the coaching staff and the recruiting guys to work together. Leach seems to hate the media, but it's an important relationship.

[ShotgunDawg]

That's not good. I think it's important for the coaching staff and the recruiting guys to work together. Leach seems to hate the media, but it's an important relationship.

Agree. They are your allies

[HoopsDawg]

Agree. They are your allies

Yancy does anything and everything he can to help the Ole Miss staff. And in return they give him info. Matt Luke's staff didn't work with him as much as Freeze's staff did.

[msu15]

Yancy does anything and everything he can to help the Ole Miss staff. And in return they give him info. Matt Luke's staff didn't work with him as much as Freeze's staff did.

Nix is Yancy's source, nothing to do with Freeze or Luke's staff

[KOdawg1]

Nix is Yancy's source, nothing to do with Freeze or Luke's staff

Yeah, Yancy was crying through his keyboard when it looked like Nix wasn't being retained. Acted like a tit.

[Hambone]

So what bad information do our guys have out there right now?

[HancockCountyDog]

They've just been wrong a lot lately. Yancy and company at the Spirit seem to be better connected so far.

Other than Demarcus Smith who it appears is going to go back to bears, how are we off.

[KOdawg1]

Other than Demarcus Smith who it appears is going to go back to bears, how are we off.

They were wrong about Buckhaulter until the last minute.

[KOdawg1]

With Smith OM bound, we need to go all out and push for Deonte Anderson. The kid is a hellacious pass rusher, which I think we need in today's college game. I've been a fan of his for awhile. He's not the same type of DE as Smith or Cooper, but I think if you put 25-30 pounds on him, he can be serviceable vs. the run while giving you a legit pass rusher. Go get him Phelps.

https://247sports.com/Player/Deonte-Anderson-46100517/

[KOdawg1]

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9381802/5f72e17b1600b30c300a3f39

Watch how quickly he gets off the ball and into the backfield. He's physical and lays down the lumber. If he can add some good weight and maintain his explosiveness, I think he can keep his hand in the dirt and be an absolute beast in this conference. I want him.

[HoopsDawg]

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9381802/5f72e17b1600b30c300a3f39

Watch how quickly he gets off the ball and into the backfield. He's physical and lays down the lumber. If he can add some good weight and maintain his explosiveness, I think he can keep his hand in the dirt and be an absolute beast in this conference. I want him.

looks good to me. who we competing with to sign him.

[KOdawg1]

looks good to me. who we competing with to sign him.

South Carolina, Georgia Tech, UCF, Penn State, and Nebraska

[Hambone]

Albert Reese has committed

[KOdawg1]

Albert Reese has committed

Big get. I'd like one more OL. Get Austin Barber and I'll take back every bad thing I've said about Miller

[DEDawg]

Big get. I'd like one more OL. Get Austin Barber and I'll take back every bad thing I've said about Miller

Looks like it was just us and Rutgers. Is he under ranked due to Covid?

[ShotgunDawg]

Looks like it was just us and Rutgers. Is he under ranked due to Covid?

He had a ton of power 5 offers. Was #1 on OM's OL board

[msstate7]

He had a ton of power 5 offers. Was #1 on OM's OL board Are they commitable? Only 1 scheduled visit to UMass according to 247.

[ShotgunDawg]

Are they commitable? Only 1 scheduled visit to UMass according to 247.

I'm not sure of the entire story

[ShotgunDawg]

Jaddarius Perkins CB from MGCCC decommits from Oregon & Wiltfong with a quick CB to MSU

[ZedFedder]

Jaddarius Perkins CB from MGCCC decommits from Oregon & Wiltfong with a quick CB to MSU

Would be BIG BIG BIG.

[ZedFedder]

Two more CBs to State for Perkins.

[KOdawg1]

Are they commitable? Only 1 scheduled visit to UMass according to 247.

That was before Covid. He's got 11 P5 offers. IDK how many are commitable, but he's at least got major potential. Film looks good. Size is great. I like it.

[KOdawg1]

I find it ironic that we've flipped two recruits since Kiffen put out the "Merry Flipmas" tweet this morning.

[Westdawg]

I find it ironic that we've flipped two recruits since Kiffen put out the "Merry Flipmas" tweet this morning.

I guess I'm behind - who have we flipped from them??? Or are you referring to just flips in general ?

[Westdawg]

On another note, KOdawg:

What's the deal going on with Antonio Harmon ?
It's almost like he has dropped off the map for some schools. A couple TX guys I know think he's gonna end up out there because of some shenanigans with his recruiting back this way (in-state in general, not specifically MSU).

[KOdawg1]

I guess I'm behind - who have we flipped from them??? Or are you referring to just flips in general ?

Flips in general

[Westdawg]

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9381802/5f72e17b1600b30c300a3f39

Watch how quickly he gets off the ball and into the backfield. He's physical and lays down the lumber. If he can add some good weight and maintain his explosiveness, I think he can keep his hand in the dirt and be an absolute beast in this conference. I want him.

Wow!!! He is a violent tackler. And his closing speed is crazy fast. I'd take him.

[KOdawg1]

On another note, KOdawg:

What's the deal going on with Antonio Harmon ?
It's almost like he has dropped off the map for some schools. A couple TX guys I know think he's gonna end up out there because of some shenanigans with his recruiting back this way (in-state in general, not specifically MSU).

He didn't have the senior year that coaches wanted him to. He's also letting a sleazebag be involved in his recruitment (2nd Tier Recruiting guy), so I'm sure he's getting all sorts of bad advice. I've read that even Texas might be backing off Antonio. I could see him ending up at a G5 school before its over with, or maybe he bets on himself and goes to Juco to prove himself. It's an odd situation for sure.

[KOdawg1]

I don't see how you can take Alexander now unless we just miss on some guys. Numbers are getting tight. You've still got Calvin Johnson likely coming, and then we're still on Justin Walley and Kadarius Calloway. I think you take the younger guys with 4 years vs. the guy with 1. I get the need for immediate impact, but with our numbers at safety, I think we're gonna be fine.

[Captain Falcon]

I don't see how you can take Alexander now unless we just miss on some guys. Numbers are getting tight. You've still got Calvin Johnson likely coming, and then we're still on Justin Walley and Kadarius Calloway. I think you take the younger guys with 4 years vs. the guy with 1. I get the need for immediate impact, but with our numbers at safety, I think we're gonna be fine.

Valid point. If you don't have room for both, three years of Perkins is probably better long term than one year of Alexander.

[msu15]

Valid point. If you don't have room for both, three years of Perkins is probably better long term than one year of Alexander.

Doubly so with our scholarship situation

[Irondawg]

Yeah at this point you have to tell Alexander to wait for the smoke to clear

[BankerDog]

I could be wrong, but doesn?t Alexander play safety? Perkins replaces Eatmon. You go get Walley and Calloway to finish the DB class.

I see us finishing:
-Perkins
-Calloway
-Walley
-Price
-Watkins
-Harmon
-Anderson
-Alexander

Maybes:
-Cooper
-Hunter
-Johnson

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah at this point you have to tell Alexander to wait for the smoke to clear

Gotta be careful with that. It's a pretty big assumption to assume we get Walley, Calloway and Johnson. If we miss on just 1 of those 3, we would still need Alexander. Personally, I would take all 4 and make it work somewhere else.

[Uncle Ruckus]

I could be wrong, but doesn?t Alexander play safety? Perkins replaces Eatmon. You go get Walley and Calloway to finish the DB class.

I see us finishing:
-Perkins
-Calloway
-Walley
-Price
-Watkins
-Harmon
-Anderson
-Alexander

Maybes:
-Cooper
-Hunter
-Johnson
Lol. We won?t get Perkins, Watkins, or Harmon. And iffy at best on Calloway and Walley. You are just predicting with no information

[MetEdDawg]

Lol. We won?t get Perkins, Watkins, or Harmon. And iffy at best on Calloway and Walley. You are just predicting with no information

So you think we have a better shot at Calloway than Perkins?

[BankerDog]

Lol. We won?t get Perkins, Watkins, or Harmon. And iffy at best on Calloway and Walley. You are just predicting with no information

Well I am right more than I am wrong. Predicting is all that we are doing anyway, it?s not like I said ?I guarantee? it.

[msu15]

Lol. We won?t get Perkins, Watkins, or Harmon. And iffy at best on Calloway and Walley. You are just predicting with no information

Care to wager on Perkins?

[BankerDog]

Care to wager on Perkins?

You will win that easily. And between the time I posted that reply and came back to post this, I got more information on the front. But I guess it?s just predictions, right?

[KOdawg1]

I could be wrong, but doesn?t Alexander play safety? Perkins replaces Eatmon. You go get Walley and Calloway to finish the DB class.

I see us finishing:
-Perkins
-Calloway
-Walley
-Price
-Watkins
-Harmon
-Anderson
-Alexander

Maybes:
-Cooper
-Hunter
-Johnson

Price and Watkins are unlikely. Harmon isn't happening.

[KOdawg1]

The only way I see us taking Alexander is if we miss on one of Perkins, Walley or Calloway. You can't justify taking 6 DBs in this class.

[MetEdDawg]

The only way I see us taking Alexander is if we miss on one of Perkins, Walley or Calloway. You can't justify taking 6 DBs in this class.

I think you can justify it. We run a 3-3-5 now. We need flexibility in the secondary and we are lacking a considerable amount of quality depth there. The potential for immediate playing time, especially at the safety position, is pretty high.

Given the way the SEC is moving offensively, you can never have enough quality defensive backs.

[vv83]

Has the Deion Smith ship officially sailed now?

[HoopsDawg]

Has the Deion Smith ship officially sailed now?

Yes.

[HoopsDawg]

I think you can justify it. We run a 3-3-5 now. We need flexibility in the secondary and we are lacking a considerable amount of quality depth there. The potential for immediate playing time, especially at the safety position, is pretty high.

Given the way the SEC is moving offensively, you can never have enough quality defensive backs.

Yeah, especially if 1 is a Juco and 1 is a transfer, then 4 high school guys. I think were are going to lose some current DB's on the roster in the offseason.

[KOdawg1]

I think you can justify it. We run a 3-3-5 now. We need flexibility in the secondary and we are lacking a considerable amount of quality depth there. The potential for immediate playing time, especially at the safety position, is pretty high.

Given the way the SEC is moving offensively, you can never have enough quality defensive backs.

I don't think you can bc it'll mean you taking only4 WRs and 5 OL and I'd argue that OL is a bigger concern moving forward than Safety.

It'll also mean you can't take John Lewis or another best available player.

[Todd4State]

The attractive thing about Perkins is he can play three years for us.

That said, I'd still take Alexander too.

[MetEdDawg]

Marvin Covington from Texas announced his Top 5. We are in it. Runs a 10.84 second 100 according to his profile.

Has TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Houston as his finalists. His composite 24/7 ranking is a .868 but his 24/7 ranking is an 89.

[Todd4State]

I don't think you can bc it'll mean you taking only4 WRs and 5 OL and I'd argue that OL is a bigger concern moving forward than Safety.

It'll also mean you can't take John Lewis or another best available player.

The numbers always work out. One way or the other.

[KOdawg1]

The numbers always work out. One way or the other.

They do. And it's probably a moot point anyway bc the likelihood of us signing Calloway AND Walley both is low. You might get one. So then you can still sign Perkins and Alexander and still have room for a best available or a 6th OL

[Todd4State]

They do. And it's probably a moot point anyway bc the likelihood of us signing Calloway AND Walley both is low. You might get one. So then you can still sign Perkins and Alexander and still have room for a best available or a 6th OL

I'm sure we'll see where things stand after the December signing day and evaluate from that point on. I could see where some potential adjustments could occur in our current class depending on what happens with other commitments.

[Irondawg]

The problem is we are thin other spots as well like DL

[Irondawg]

Was J Lewis not good last year for Germantown? Just trying to figure out how he blew up so late with both OM and State getting on him really late and MSU apparently later than MSU.

It’s not like he’s playing 1a ball either. We’re grades a potential issue or something like with KJ

[ShotgunDawg]

Was J Lewis not good last year for Germantown? Just trying to figure out how he blew up so late with both OM and State getting on him really late and MSU apparently later than MSU.

It’s not like he’s playing 1a ball either. We’re grades a potential issue or something like with KJ

He must've grown. I have no other explanation.

I hope we get him, but, as you kind of stated, I question how "good" he is. Just seems like a LB with his mearsurable at a big school near Jackson would be well known if he were any good. Germantown isn't exactly Rosa Fort, Houston HS, Eupora, or somewhere in the Delta where the pop up guys normally come from.

It's interesting to me that he's rated above our JUCO LB Strong, who is much more ready to play & by all logic a much better player. Does raw & better measurables equal better player than a guy that multiple SEC teams are recruiting to start next season?

[KOdawg1]

He must've grown. I have no other explanation.

I hope we get him, but, as you kind of stated, I question how "good" he is. Just seems like a LB with his mearsurable at a big school near Jackson would be well known if he were any good. Germantown isn't exactly Rosa Fort, Houston HS, Eupora, or somewhere in the Delta where the pop up guys normally come from.

It's interesting to me that he's rated above our JUCO LB Strong, who is much more ready to play & by all logic a much better player. Does raw & better measurables equal better player than a guy that multiple SEC teams are recruiting to start next season?

247 has to do something different in the way they rate JUCO players. Jadarrius Perkins has 36 total offers, 21 P5 offers, including schools like Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon, etc. Now of course, those may not be committable, but the point stands that he's a very coveted recruit with a good skillset, yet he's only rated as an 88 3*. If you take a high school kid and give them those same offers, they're at least a 94-95 rated 4*.

[ShotgunDawg]

247 has to do something different in the way they rate JUCO players. Jadarrius Perkins has 36 total offers, 21 P5 offers, including schools like Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon, etc. Now of course, those may not be committable, but the point stands that he's a very coveted recruit with a good skillset, yet he's only rated as an 88 3*. If you take a high school kid and give them those same offers, they're at least a 94-95 rated 4*.

Yeah.

Here is my explanation for 247's rating formula:

They don't consider risk & instead focus on size, speed, & strength. They rate players based on ceiling rather than how likely they are to be good.

Evaluating is about two questions: What can they do & how likely are they to do it? It seems that 247 only considers the 1st question & they also don't rank for position value. Like having Kadarius Calloway, who we may get, being ranked above Sawyer Robertson is stupid. It's just plain stupid.

If we had a college football draft: in what order do Robertson, Calloway, Lewis, & Strong go in?

Without a doubt, I believe they go in this order:

Robertson
Strong
Calloway
Lewis

Now, Lewis may turn out to be a stud, but that's not the point. Risk & position value has to be considered more in the way they rank players, if they want to be more accurate at predicting NFL draft picks.

[KOdawg1]

Yeah.

Here is my explanation for 247's rating formula:

They don't consider risk & instead focus on size, speed, & strength. They rate players based on ceiling rather than how likely they are to be good.

Evaluating is about two questions: What can they do & how likely are they to do it? It seems that 247 only considers the 1st question & they also don't rank for position value. Like having Kadarius Calloway, who we may get, being ranked above Sawyer Robertson is stupid. It's just plain stupid.

If we had a college football draft: in what order do Robertson, Calloway, Lewis, & Strong go in?

Without a doubt, I believe they go in this order:

Robertson
Strong
Calloway
Lewis

Now, Lewis may turn out to be a stud, but that's not the point. Risk & position value has to be considered more in the way they rank players, if they want to be more accurate at predicting NFL draft picks.

They also need to do away with composite, because rivals and ESPN are clueless

[Todd4State]

The problem is we are thin other spots as well like DL

I agree. But next year there are several in state prospects that are legit and we should get some of those. Charlton will help with that some as well. We could see a DL of Crumedy/Pickering/Charlton next year with a second string of Odom/Young/Harris and we would also have Banks and Cooley behind those two groups plus whatever we acquire this year. So to me, on paper we look OK especially if we land another HS DE.


Was J Lewis not good last year for Germantown? Just trying to figure out how he blew up so late with both OM and State getting on him really late and MSU apparently later than MSU.

It’s not like he’s playing 1a ball either. We’re grades a potential issue or something like with KJ

He's a guy that got overlooked by the 247 guys because of camps being cancelled more than anything. Same with CJ Johnson.


247 has to do something different in the way they rate JUCO players. Jadarrius Perkins has 36 total offers, 21 P5 offers, including schools like Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon, etc. Now of course, those may not be committable, but the point stands that he's a very coveted recruit with a good skillset, yet he's only rated as an 88 3*. If you take a high school kid and give them those same offers, they're at least a 94-95 rated 4*.

247 could start by actually paying attention to JUCO's. They just seem to carpet bomb them with a three star rating no matter what.


They also need to do away with composite, because rivals and ESPN are clueless

Agreed. I don't even look at the composite.

[Irondawg]

I get 24/7 may have overlooked him but a guy at Germantown HS shouldn’t be coming out of nowhere to MSU and OM who kept a decent part of their instate recruiting staff in place.

It’s just odd and I even know a couple of Gtown coaches and when we were discussing a DL kid who went to Navy last year neither of them said anything about Lewis or just a “yeah the current kid is good but we have a stud SEC level LB to watch next year”

As Shotgun said maybe he grew 4 inches and put on 30 pounds.

[ShotgunDawg]

I get 24/7 may have overlooked him but a guy at Germantown HS shouldn’t be coming out of nowhere to MSU and OM who kept a decent part of their instate recruiting staff in place.

It’s just odd and I even know a couple of Gtown coaches and when we were discussing a DL kid who went to Navy last year neither of them said anything about Lewis or just a “yeah the current kid is good but we have a stud SEC level LB to watch next year”

As Shotgun said maybe he grew 4 inches and put on 30 pounds.

yeah, I don't get it

[Irondawg]

The Johnson kid is also a mystery since his dad is a team dr.

I assume he’s not new to that position which means you would think he would have been to every camp we’ve had. So while the new staff may have had no clue you would think Hughes and Peterson, etc would have known about him. But his name never came up from anybody until he blew up a few weeks ago. I don’t know that we even had a PWO for him

[Todd4State]

The Johnson kid is also a mystery since his dad is a team dr.

I assume he’s not new to that position which means you would think he would have been to every camp we’ve had. So while the new staff may have had no clue you would think Hughes and Peterson, etc would have known about him. But his name never came up from anybody until he blew up a few weeks ago. I don’t know that we even had a PWO for him

Our staff knows about players before 247 does and I'm sure the staff has been keeping their eyes open on guys for awhile now. I suspect Johnson was under evaluation since he was a Navy commit.

[msbulldog]

Johnson's mother is a team doctor.

[Santiago]

The Johnson kid is also a mystery since his dad is a team dr.

I assume he’s not new to that position which means you would think he would have been to every camp we’ve had. So while the new staff may have had no clue you would think Hughes and Peterson, etc would have known about him. But his name never came up from anybody until he blew up a few weeks ago. I don’t know that we even had a PWO for him

You are possibly confusing him with Altmeyer. Johnson's mom is a doctor on campus.

[Irondawg]

Yep sorry mixing up the parents but the argument is the same. You would have though get we would have heard the name before.

Going to be an interesting 2 weeks because the staff has some decisions to make including how many scholarships to leave open for transfers

[msu15]

Yep sorry mixing up the parents but the argument is the same. You would have though get we would have heard the name before.

Going to be an interesting 2 weeks because the staff has some decisions to make including how many scholarships to leave open for transfers

I'd leave 0 open if we can get all 26 signed that we want in 2 weeks.

[HoopsDawg]

yeah, I don't get it

Didn't he get re-ranked and upgraded after Yancy and the crew realized OM was recruiting him? Maybe in reality he's more like a mid 3 star.

[Ari Gold]

Class of 2022 JD Stewart > John Lewis ..
And it?s not even close..

[ShotgunDawg]

Class of 2022 JD Stewart > John Lewis ..
And it?s not even close..

How would you explain how Lewis got to be a 4 star?

[messageboardsuperhero]

Didn't he get re-ranked and upgraded after Yancy and the crew realized OM was recruiting him? Maybe in reality he's more like a mid 3 star.

He?s a good player and I?d like to sign him. Seems to have the measurables you want in the SEC. But yeah he may be a little overvalued. 247 has him rated higher than Calloway and Daniels as the number 2 player in MS, but I?d definitely have him behind those two.

And yeah, doubtful that he?s any better than JD Stewart in the next class. But Stewart probably won?t have the hype because he?s probably going to commit to us early.

[ShotgunDawg]

He?s a good player and I?d like to sign him. Seems to have the measurables you want in the SEC. But yeah he may be a little overvalued. 247 has him rated higher than Calloway and Daniels as the number 2 player in MS, but I?d definitely have him behind those two.

And yeah, doubtful that he?s any better than JD Stewart in the next class. But Stewart probably won?t have the hype because he?s probably going to commit to us early.

You never want to count your chickens before they hatch, but with Blanton & Stewart next year likely signing to be Bulldogs & Strong having 3 years to play, I question how important LB is in this class.

I'll take him for sure, but there are other positions I'd prioritize

[ZedFedder]

Pounders is gone.

[KOdawg1]

Pounders decommits.

Austin Barber and/or Cannon Boone are must gets now. If we miss on them, then we'll likely be forced to reach on a guy like Nasson Simmons who isn't an SEC player.

Not ideal for this staff right now. Ole Miss has all the momentum right now. No other way to spin it.

[messageboardsuperhero]

We could have a top 10 class two weeks before signing day and still struggle to finish in the top 30. Somehow we get absolutely worked in the two weeks prior to signing day every single year.

It?s really remarkable.

[KOdawg1]

We could have a top 10 class two weeks before signing day and still struggle to finish in the top 30. Somehow we get absolutely worked in the two weeks prior to signing day every single year.

It?s really remarkable.

Our strategy is to get guys in the boat early and then hold onto them the best you can. We play defense. I'd rather play a little offense for once. Ole Miss is about to make us look foolish.

[Hambone]

Look for MJ Daniels to decommit in the next day or so as well

[Irondawg]

We have to be the most abused SEC program the last 2 weeks of every recruiting season.

I love a Paul and Steve but they’ve been getting worked over this year as well. I won’t lose sleep over Poinders that much but losing Daniels would be a potential blow

[FoggyBottom]

Like two ships passing in the night . . . . . . . . .

[KOdawg1]

If we lose Daniels, then this staff will have shown me they don't have what it takes to recruit in the SEC. You can get all of these commits in the dog days of summer, but if you can't close on them in December then you're never going to make it.

[Hambone]

The modified dead period is the best thing that could have happened to Ole Miss. This is when they do their best recruiting.

[Dawgology]

Leach...taking us to the next level!!!!!!**********************************

[msu15]

Look for MJ Daniels to decommit in the next day or so as well

Wrong, he's shutting it down. Hail State.

[KOdawg1]

1336295912562421761

4* LB John Lewis commits! He was thought to be an Ole Miss lean for a few weeks. BIG get by this staff.

He'll be a helluva edge rusher for us. Tyrus Wheat, Jordan Davis, Demonte Russell, John Lewis

[Hambone]

John Lewis has committed. Even though some think he isn’t as good as others it’s still a big pickup.

[KOdawg1]

John Lewis has committed. Even though some think he isn’t as good as others it’s still a big pickup.

Who thinks that? They need to go watch his film. Absolute stud

[PCHSDawg]

Who thinks that? They need to go watch his film. Absolute stud

Just read a few posts above yours.

[KOdawg1]

delete

[StateDawg44]

NM

[Hambone]

NM

[HancockCountyDog]

Who thinks that? They need to go watch his film. Absolute stud

This is the classic, "He is about to sign with Ole Miss? Pffffftttt, overrated." Three days later....
"Suck it Bears, Big time commit!!!! stud! Difference maker!"

I tend to think the latter is true;

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is the classic, "He is about to sign with Ole Miss? Pffffftttt, overrated." Three days later....
"Suck it Bears, Big time commit!!!! stud! Difference maker!"

I tend to think the latter is true;

He's a good get for us. His recruitment really blew up late. I think he's probably one of those guys that would've blown up on the summer camp circuit and ended up with double digit offers. We benefit greatly from that in this case. A heck of a job by Rod Gibson and Matt Brock to outrecruit Deke Adams and Chris Marve for him.

[ZedFedder]

What a statement to get him, especially with the perceived momentum from OM. GREAT JOB staff!!!

[BankerDog]

Daniels still decommitting? Haha some of you guys just need to shut up.

[ZedFedder]

Also, hopefully this helps us with Branson Robinson for next year. Stud running back.

[KOdawg1]

Also, hopefully this helps us with Branson Robinson for next year. Stud running back.

And Zxavian Harris. 4* DT

[ZedFedder]

And Zxavian Harris. 4* DT

Forgot about him.

[Ari Gold]

Daniels still decommitting? Haha some of you guys just need to shut up.

Agree...

[Matt3467]

Sorry I haven't been keeping up with this thread as much as I'd like to but what's the deal with Deion Smith? Is there any chance for us especially with LSU seemingly falling apart at the seams?

[ShotgunDawg]

Sorry I haven't been keeping up with this thread as much as I'd like to but what's the deal with Deion Smith? Is there any chance for us especially with LSU seemingly falling apart at the seams?

Seems like Ole Miss has the connections with that one.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Sorry I haven't been keeping up with this thread as much as I'd like to but what's the deal with Deion Smith? Is there any chance for us especially with LSU seemingly falling apart at the seams?

No. We need to close with Price and Harmon on the WR front. And hold on to everyone else. USCe new staff is trying to get back in the game with Thomas.

[KOdawg1]

No. We need to close with Price and Harmon on the WR front. And hold on to everyone else. USCe new staff is trying to get back in the game with Thomas.

We'll only have room for one out of Harmon and Price if we keep who we've got. And it's likely going to be Harmon. I owe whoever said that we were still on him an apology. He was right, and I couldn't be happier because Antonio is a good kid and I think will prove some people wrong.

[KOdawg1]

So where do we go from here? We've got 18 committed with 1 transfer so that's 19 spots. We're signing 26, so that leaves 7.

We'll take 2 DEs- if we get (1) Ty Cooper and (2) Deonte Anderson, then I'll be ecstatic.

(3) Antonio Harmon at WR is looking likely now, so there's another 4 star.

(4) Jarquez Hunter at RB seems to be where we're headed, even though he's signing in Feb.

(5) Calvin Johnson from French Camp and (6) Jadarrius Perkins are two DBs we have good shots with. Don't count Justin Walley out either.

And the 7th spot will go to an OL. I'm not sure who that OL will be though. Austin Barber got a Miami offer so he gone. Maybe Canon Boone? If we can't find a solid player in the early signing period, I'd like to see us pocket that last scholly and wait until February. New names will pop up, or maybe a transfer will emerge.

If we land a combination of those 7 guys, then I'll be very pleased. That'll be the highest recruiting class Mike Leach has ever signed. In year 1...

[StarkVegasSteve]

We'll only have room for one out of Harmon and Price if we keep who we've got. And it's likely going to be Harmon. I owe whoever said that we were still on him an apology. He was right, and I couldn't be happier because Antonio is a good kid and I think will prove some people wrong.

He's a big body who can be a big red zone threat in this offense. I think he could be Spivey 2.0 and with Spivey getting more and more PT and performing over the last couple of games that has me excited.

[KOdawg1]

He's a big body who can be a big red zone threat in this offense. I think he could be Spivey 2.0 and with Spivey getting more and more PT and performing over the last couple of games that has me excited.

Yep. I think Spivey playing well recently has shown the staff that they can utilize players like Harmon. With him being an hour down the road, it just makes sense. And there's a myth out there that Antonio is slow. He's not slow. He's just not shifty. With good coaching, I think he'll be a beast

[ZedFedder]

Justin Walley just posted that his recruitment is 100% closed and he will sign with Minnesota.

[msbulldog]

Daniels still decommitting? Haha some of you guys just need to shut up.

https://twitter.com/mjdaniels11/status/1336303939411697666?s=21

[KOdawg1]

Justin Walley just posted that his recruitment is 100% closed and he will sign with Minnesota.

Oh well. Get Perkins and Johnson II and we'll be fine. Alexander from KSU is also still an option

[Matt3467]

Yep. I think Spivey playing well recently has shown the staff that they can utilize players like Harmon. With him being an hour down the road, it just makes sense. And there's a myth out there that Antonio is slow. He's not slow. He's just not shifty. With good coaching, I think he'll be a beast

Is he Osirus Mitchell shifty? Good grief I cringe every time I see Mitchell trying to shake someone.

[KOdawg1]

Is he Osirus Mitchell shifty? Good grief I cringe every time I see Mitchell trying to shake someone.

Haha yet we keep throwing screens to him like he's Tyreek Hill

[StateDawg44]

nm

[Westdawg]

We'll only have room for one out of Harmon and Price if we keep who we've got. And it's likely going to be Harmon. I owe whoever said that we were still on him an apology. He was right, and I couldn't be happier because Antonio is a good kid and I think will prove some people wrong.
I am surprised we are still actually on him and he's considering us. I do know a few things about his sr year:
- he's got a huge chip on his shoulder because he feels he was looked over.
- his attitude changed a LOT from his junior year to his senior season. Part due to wanting to be better, but I think Casey Orr and staff really pushed him and there was accountability in the program again. Man, what could have been if he'd had two years with Casey. Harmon really took to discipline and coaching.
- he's covered up with Ole Miss ppl in Kosy. It's always been that way. Every recruit that was possibly good enough always gets covered up by OM "friends".
- The local "recruiting service guy" .....man, and can't wait to hear the full story on this one.
- a lot of schools cooled on him because he didn't "improve" on film, but he has D1 talent. He didn't have D1 mindset and work ethic and maturity. I think he showed HUGE maturity this season and he really turned it on in those three areas. I've watched him the past couple seasons, and it's night and day From junior to senior year. That speaks volumes to me as a coach.

[Cooterpoot]

No. We need to close with Price and Harmon on the WR front. And hold on to everyone else. USCe new staff is trying to get back in the game with Thomas.

We aren't taking Price unless things fall apart. Or possibly at the end with best available and even then he's not a priority.

[KOdawg1]

I am surprised we are still actually on him and he's considering us. I do know a few things about his sr year:
- he's got a huge chip on his shoulder because he feels he was looked over.
- his attitude changed a LOT from his junior year to his senior season. Part due to wanting to be better, but I think Casey Orr and staff really pushed him and there was accountability in the program again. Man, what could have been if he'd had two years with Casey. Harmon really took to discipline and coaching.
- he's covered up with Ole Miss ppl in Kosy. It's always been that way. Every recruit that was possibly good enough always gets covered up by OM "friends".
- The local "recruiting service guy" .....man, and can't wait to hear the full story on this one.
- a lot of schools cooled on him because he didn't "improve" on film, but he has D1 talent. He didn't have D1 mindset and work ethic and maturity. I think he showed HUGE maturity this season and he really turned it on in those three areas. I've watched him the past couple seasons, and it's night and day From junior to senior year. That speaks volumes to me as a coach.

He has good work ethic. He lays tile during the summers in Kosciusko. Tells me all I need to know. I'm pumped he's seemingly going to get this opportunity.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Just read a few posts above yours.

I stand by what I posted. He is a good player and glad we are signing him. That said, 247 has him as the number two player in the state, but I would have him a little behind Calloway and Daniels. Definitely a top 10 player in MS and likely in the top 5.

And yes, I think Stewart in next years class will be every bit as good, and we are expected to sign him.

[Westdawg]

Yep. I think Spivey playing well recently has shown the staff that they can utilize players like Harmon. With him being an hour down the road, it just makes sense. And there's a myth out there that Antonio is slow. He's not slow. He's just not shifty. With good coaching, I think he'll be a beast

He's not slow. He's got a long stride that is very deceptively fast. He's taking one step to other players' 1 & 1/2 - two steps.
In his film, I actually like him at safety better than WR. But that's not a knock on him as a WR.

[msu15]

Look for MJ Daniels to decommit in the next day or so as well

Nice try bud

[Westdawg]

Theo Knox on twitter - all 🐶!

https://twitter.com/sayyted/status/1336384425794416646?s=21

[FISHDAWG]

Theo Knox on twitter - all 🐶!

https://twitter.com/sayyted/status/1336384425794416646?s=21

https://twitter.com/sayyted/status/1336384425794416646

[FISHDAWG]

encouraging words from Boobie

https://twitter.com/Boobie24Dixon/status/1336046175359815691

[KOdawg1]

MJ, Knox, and Nabers all re-affirm their commitments today.

I understand if that seems silly to some, but I think it's a great idea to create excitement and settle nerves one week out

[ZedFedder]

MJ, Knox, and Nabers all re-affirm their commitments today.

I understand if that seems silly to some, but I think it's a great idea to create excitement and settle nerves one week out

Where did you see Nabers confirm?

[BeardoMSU]

encouraging words from Boobie

https://twitter.com/Boobie24Dixon/status/1336046175359815691

Love that guy. Hard not to.

[KOdawg1]

Where did you see Nabers confirm?
Facebook. Believe his mom put it out. I don't think Malik has social media

[Hambone]

Nice try bud

No prob bud.

Was told he was going to. Glad I was wrong.

[Westdawg]

Myzell Williams -

What's the story there? He was all Dawg, and then on the end of the month of Nov, he "de-committed". I guess I'm too lazy to look back on here lol

[ZedFedder]

Myzell Williams -

What's the story there? He was all Dawg, and then on the end of the month of Nov, he "de-committed". I guess I'm too lazy to look back on here lol

He was dropped by State.

[FISHDAWG]

https://twitter.com/Talk2emTre/status/1336745049527300100

[FISHDAWG]

https://twitter.com/mjdaniels11/status/1336303939411697666?s=21

that was on Dec 8th .... this was posted an hour ago

https://twitter.com/MjDaniels11/status/1337133042373177358

[FISHDAWG]

I thought this guy was committed ... he tweeted back on Dec 8 he recruitment was closed down and he was a dog and now this ... Maybe the Rebellious Bastards are sneakier than we thought

https://twitter.com/MjDaniels11/status/1337133042373177358

[KOdawg1]

MJ has tweeted out every graphic that he's ever gotten.

I don't think it's cause for concern just yet

[HancockCountyDog]

I thought this guy was committed ... he tweeted back on Dec 8 he recruitment was closed down and he was a dog and now this ... Maybe the Rebellious Bastards are sneakier than we thought

https://twitter.com/MjDaniels11/status/1337133042373177358

We are fine here.

[HancockCountyDog]

Anyone know if we really offered QB, Jake Weir out of Tupelo.

He posted on Twitter that we offered him, doesn?t make sense. I?m wondering if he is trying to generate some interest in himself.

[StateDawg44]

Anyone know if we really offered QB, Jake Weir out of Tupelo.

He posted on Twitter that we offered him, doesn?t make sense. I?m wondering if he is trying to generate some interest in himself.

What's not to understand?

He's a preferred walk on.

[Hambone]

So the non smart ass answer is:

Yes, he was offered a walk on position.

[msu15]

So the non smart ass answer is:

Yes, he was offered a walk on position.

Big difference in being a smart ass and a dumb ass