THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

[DEDawg]

You really believe he had those offers?

No clue, I'm just going off 24/7. The timing of the decommit from LSU does seem like a drop though. It seems hard to believe a 94 rated DE's best offer was Ole Miss though

[ShotgunDawg]

No clue, I'm just going off 24/7. The timing of the decommit from LSU does seem like a drop though. It seems hard to believe a 94 rated DE's best offer was Ole Miss though

Always beware of players with big names & coach's sons.

They are usually overrated.

Clowney probably got ranked really high a long time ago due to his name & association, but then people realized he wasn't really good

[msstate7]

No clue, I'm just going off 24/7. The timing of the decommit from LSU does seem like a drop though. It seems hard to believe a 94 rated DE's best offer was Ole Miss though

Yeah, I agree. LSU is a top 5 recruiter, so their cast offs could be some damn good players. I'd take a chance on any .94 rated player right now

[ShotgunDawg]

Yeah, I agree. LSU is a top 5 recruiter, so their cast offs could be some damn good players. I'd take a chance on any .94 rated player right now

For sure, I'd love to have him. I'm just skeptical as to why LSU wouldn't want a 94 rated DE that is Clowney's cousin. There must be something really wrong

I just wonder what his ranking would be if the same exact player's last name was Smith

[Cooterpoot]

For sure, I'd love to have him. I'm just skeptical as to why LSU wouldn't want a 94 rated DE that is Clowney's cousin. There must be something really wrong

I just wonder what his ranking would be if the same exact player's last name was Smith

Same reason Clemson and UGA didn't want him.

[msstate7]

Same reason Clemson and UGA didn't want him.

Not really saying anything though... how many of our guys did those 3 programs want?

[Cooterpoot]

Not really saying anything though... how many of our guys did those 3 programs want?

But that's the point.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not really saying anything though... how many of our guys did those 3 programs want?

What I've never been able to figure out is how when Ole Miss makes "certain hires" they immediately get in the game with big time recruits & all their losing is forgotten. Yet, it seems that no matter who we hire, we are always locked out on getting those guys in for visits & such.

It's always struck me as odd

[timotheus]

What I've never been able to figure out is how when Ole Miss makes "certain hires" they immediately get in the game with big time recruits & all their losing is forgotten. Yet, it seems that no matter who we hire, we are always locked out on getting those guys in for visits & such.

It's always struck me as odd

Its all in the "making them feel appreciated" before, during and after the OV. Cam Akers really felt appreciated early on during his recruitment but Jimbo and FSU came by and made him feel more appreciated.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I do think Clowney is a good player but his final 3 were OM, Virginia, & Louisville. Sometimes you get lucky because the big schools fill up or need the room.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I'm lost and think I'm on Spirit...Can someone point me to EliteDawgs?

[MetEdDawg]

I'm lost and think I'm on Spirit...Can someone point me to EliteDawgs?

Should show you how fragile the fan base feels right now. One OM commit has our fans scattering like ants. The collective doesn't know how to feel, so they are just overreacting to everything to try and find direction and meaning.

[HancockCountyDog]

Should show you how fragile the fan base feels right now. One OM commit has our fans scattering like ants. The collective doesn't know how to feel, so they are just overreacting to everything to try and find direction and meaning.

We need to focus on landing at least 2 maybe 3 more HS OL and hopefully a transfer WR and maybe transfer Safety.

If we compare ourselves to a 4-8 team, we will end up being a 4-8 team.

[MetEdDawg]

Leach has gone into Grayson and is offering a lot of solid kids. Good school to try and make some in roads at. Seen 3 or 4 tweets over the last day of kids from Grayson being offered or reoffered.

[KB21]

Should show you how fragile the fan base feels right now. One OM commit has our fans scattering like ants. The collective doesn't know how to feel, so they are just overreacting to everything to try and find direction and meaning.

We have a small faction of the fan base that wants nothing more than to be just like Ole Miss when it comes to pushing perception only over substance.

[chef dixon]

Moorhead is offering the whole damn state of Mississippi. They already have a decent presence in this area.

[ShotgunDawg]

We just lost Ben Key to Mizzou

Not a big deal, but I'm curious if Marcus Johnson tampered here? We never released him.

That being said, I wonder with our scheme change yesterday if he was "encouraged" to look elsewhere.

How many 3 techs does a 3-3-5 need?

[DCdawg]

Sorry if I missed it, but (aside from Costello) does anyone have visitor lists for the next couple of weekends?

[Cooterpoot]

Sorry if I missed it, but (aside from Costello) does anyone have visitor lists for the next couple of weekends?

Spencer is coming in I believe. Looks like Spencer and Benson are our primary OL guys at this point.

[HancockCountyDog]

Spencer is coming in I believe. Looks like Spencer and Benson are our primary OL guys at this point.

I think we have to make the best of it this year. We have 5 seniors on the OL next year. I really wish we could find a juco OL that would be willing to RS. We are going to need some of this year's class to potentially play in 2021.

I am glad we are getting the bodies in at least.

[ShotgunDawg]

Rosebowl just said on Matt Wyatt's show that we don't get the Benjiman Key scholarship back to sign someone else in February.

That doesn't make any sense to me.

Lets say you change coaches after signing day or like for Wazzou your coach leaves & you lose 10+ recruits that had already signed.

What then? You can only sign 15 guys because your coach decided to leave?

That doesn't make any sense & seems like an awful rule

Why should MSU be punished when a kid decided to get out of his scholarship?

[vv83]

Rosebowl just said on Matt Wyatt's show that we don't get the Benjiman Key scholarship back to sign someone else in February.

That doesn't make any sense to me.

Lets say you change coaches after signing day or like for Wazzou your coach leaves & you lose 10+ recruits that had already signed.

What then? You can only sign 15 guys because your coach decided to leave?

That doesn't make any sense & seems like an awful rule

Why should MSU be punished when a kid decided to get out of his scholarship?

My guess is because the staff told him to look around, not because he wanted to leave. In other words he was signed and would still be here if new staff let him. I don’t know if true just my hunch

[Irondawg]

But as long as he ends up somewhere the schools should get that scholly back - maybe the rule should be you get it back when the kid you released signs with another school

[ShotgunDawg]

My guess is because the staff told him to look around, not because he wanted to leave. In other words he was signed and would still be here if new staff let him. I don’t know if true just my hunch

But there’s no way to know that. There’s no official declaration of whether we told him to look around or not

[Coursesuper]

But there?s no way to know that. There?s no official declaration of whether we told him to look around or not

Who cares, he's gone we can still count back on a few guys and that dude might or might not have helped. It's over on to more pressing matters like offensive linemen that don't look like a statue against a pass rush.

[ShotgunDawg]

Who cares, he's gone we can still count back on a few guys and that dude might or might not have helped. It's over on to more pressing matters like offensive linemen that don't look like a statue against a pass rush.

I’m not at all complaining about us not getting him. Just asking why we don’t get the scholly back

[yjnkdawg]

I’m not at all complaining about us not getting him. Just asking why we don’t get the scholly back


Because he signed at LOI with us in December. Once a player does that then that is his scholarship or nobody's scholarship if he leaves.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Since there was a coaching change I believe we get that scholarship back.

[HailStateSZN19]

Since there was a coaching change I believe we get that scholarship back.

IYOK, can you lay out how many spots we have left we will use and how you think those remaining spots get used just your best guess?

[HailStateSZN19]

Scott Lashley is officially enrolled at MSU and will be good to go through Spring practice. Nice!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We'll likely sign 6-8 more between HS guys & transfers.

[chef dixon]

Are we expecting any other signees to leave?

[Cooterpoot]

Are we expecting any other signees to leave?

No

[Commercecomet24]

Are we expecting any other signees to leave?

Nope. We good to go and some good additions coming as well.

[HailStateSZN19]

This is just an opinion-based post and haven't seen anything about this dude mentioned, but IF we are going to go after a grad transfer WR, we ought to kick the tires on Damon Hazelton from VT. He's put up some solid #'s there the last 2 years. Long, rangy guy with some good feet-work. Look him up on YouTube if you haven't seen his highlights. He'd be a solid get at WR.

IYOK/Cooter/Commerce, are we looking to add 1 of Adams or Rufus PLUS a grad transfer WR or just 1 WR overall whether that be HS or grad transfer?

[ShotgunDawg]

We'll likely sign 6-8 more between HS guys & transfers.

then why don't we have more guys coming on visits?

I don't see enough visits taking place to sign that many more guys

[HancockCountyDog]

then why don't we have more guys coming on visits?

I don't see enough visits taking place to sign that many more guys

Benson
Spencer
Costello
Harvey
Adams

Few more grad transfers before August.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

then why don't we have more guys coming on visits?

I don't see enough visits taking place to sign that many more guys

It's not like grad transfers have to sign on signing day.

[msbulldog]

Rosebowl said we have 83 total schollies for the nest 2 years due to Tudorgate. We are presently at 82 and if we sign Costello we will be at the limit, but we will probably over sign, counting on attrition.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We may sign some transfers this summer after Spring Practice after the roster shakes out.... we have to see who gets processed out....the 83 roster limit is the primary factor on how many we sign.

[Cooterpoot]

then why don't we have more guys coming on visits?

I don't see enough visits taking place to sign that many more guys

There are more next week and we're working on getting others in.

[vv83]

I just saw we got a kicker commit. Seems odd to give out 2 in this class but I guess one will only be here 1 year as a grad transfer

[Todd4State]

I just saw we got a kicker commit. Seems odd to give out 2 in this class but I guess one will only be here 1 year as a grad transfer

The kicker is a preferred walk-on. Doesn't take up a spot in the 25 man class.

[msstate7]

Any word on costello leaking out?

[ShotgunDawg]

Alex Adams just committed to LSU.

Guess he wanted some of that Children's Hospital money.

[chef dixon]

Alex Adams just committed to LSU.

Guess he wanted some of that Children's Hospital money.

I guess if he's not going to qualify they can use a signature on him and we can try again in 2 years. Unless things have changed on that front.

[HancockCountyDog]

I guess if he's not going to qualify they can use a signature on him and we can try again in 2 years. Unless things have changed on that front.

I?ve come to believe that there is always a chance.

[vv83]

Another PWO. Reuben Jackson WR

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I?ve come to believe that there is always a chance.

Always

[MetEdDawg]

Another PWO. Reuben Jackson WR

Kid shows 2 D1 offers from FAU and Vandy. Rated a 3 star on the 24/7 composite. And we got him to walk on. Nice job by Leach and staff.

[Cowbell]

Kid shows 2 D1 offers from FAU and Vandy. Rated a 3 star on the 24/7 composite. And we got him to walk on. Nice job by Leach and staff.

Yes! We are not going to have roster holes

[Todd4State]

And Rufus Harvey commits to Arkansas State.

[ShotgunDawg]

And Rufus Harvey commits to Arkansas State.

Good

[msstate7]

Kid shows 2 D1 offers from FAU and Vandy. Rated a 3 star on the 24/7 composite. And we got him to walk on. Nice job by Leach and staff.

If he has real offers, it counts against 85, right?

[HancockCountyDog]

If he has real offers, it counts against 85, right?

No

[msstate7]

No
So what keeps Bama from having a bunch of walk ons every year? If this were the case, i think blue bloods would be getting a ton of "walk ons"

[Coursesuper]

So what keeps Bama from having a bunch of walk ons every year? If this were the case, i think blue bloods would be getting a ton of "walk ons"

Really? They case sign whatever they want they don't have to play this game, we on the other hand do. If the players are not on grant and aid they don't count against they 85 number. That number is like 11.7 in baseball.

[dawgday166]

So what keeps Bama from having a bunch of walk ons every year? If this were the case, i think blue bloods would be getting a ton of "walk ons"

Seems to me the chances are better of working your way up the depth chart at someplace other than Bama, Clemson and other blue bloods. Ain't that what most of the kids who walk on are looking for? Competing against all 4 and 5* guys vs 3 and 4* guys is a no brainer if I want to play as early as possible.

[TALL DAWG]

Seems to me the chances are better of working your way up the depth chart at someplace other than Bama, Clemson and other blue bloods. Ain't that what most of the kids who walk on are looking for? Competing against all 4 and 5* guys vs 3 and 4* guys is a no brainer if I want to play as early as possible.

EXACTLY THE CORRECT ANSWER!

[msstate7]

Seems to me the chances are better of working your way up the depth chart at someplace other than Bama, Clemson and other blue bloods. Ain't that what most of the kids who walk on are looking for? Competing against all 4 and 5* guys vs 3 and 4* guys is a no brainer if I want to play as early as possible.

You aren't following me. I'm saying if you can get guys to walk on with legit offers without it counting against 85, you'd have 3-stars "walking on" at the blue bloods. I thought they cut that out

ETA... Bama signs their 25 this fall, and then talk 8 kids into walking on

[dawgday166]

You aren't following me. I'm saying if you can get guys to walk on with legit offers without it counting against 85, you'd have 3-stars "walking on" at the blue bloods. I thought they cut that out

ETA... Bama signs their 25 this fall, and then talk 8 kids into walking on

Ok ... so I don't really know how a PWO works. Care to 'splain? Do they get some kind of financial assistance? How the rules work?

[msstate7]

Ok ... so I don't really know how a PWO works. Care to 'splain? Do they get some kind of financial assistance? How the rules work?

I don't know. I could be be completely wrong

[Jarius]

You aren't following me. I'm saying if you can get guys to walk on with legit offers without it counting against 85, you'd have 3-stars "walking on" at the blue bloods. I thought they cut that out

ETA... Bama signs their 25 this fall, and then talk 8 kids into walking on

If you are not providing someone with a scholarship then they do not count against your 85. It does not matter what someone else offered them. No one is walking on at Alabama when they have legit offers to other P5 schools unless they are extremely wealthy or just grew up a huge Alabama fan. That would raise serious eyebrows with the NCAA. Most people are not going to willingly put themselves in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt just to ride the pine at Alabama when they have a free ride elsewhere.

[msstate7]

If you are not providing someone with a scholarship then they do not count against your 85. It does not matter what someone else offered them. No one is walking on at Alabama when they have legit offers to other P5 schools unless they are extremely wealthy or just grew up a huge Alabama fan. That would raise serious eyebrows with the NCAA. Most people are not going to willingly put themselves in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt just to ride the pine at Alabama when they have a free ride elsewhere.

So arch manning could go to OM as a walk on and allow OM to have another scholarship?

[Coursesuper]

So arch manning could go to OM as a walk on and allow OM to have another scholarship?

Yes, you have it figured out now.

[Jarius]

Sure. It happens in baseball a lot. Coaches ask players that can afford it to take less of a scholarship in order to help out guys that don't come from as much. If Arch Manning has that much talent and is hell bent on going to OM it could be an option I suppose, but I don't see that happening. Matt Luke went to OM as a walk-on when he had other options for that reason when OM had recruiting sanctions.

[dawgday166]

If you are not providing someone with a scholarship then they do not count against your 85. It does not matter what someone else offered them. No one is walking on at Alabama when they have legit offers to other P5 schools unless they are extremely wealthy or just grew up a huge Alabama fan. That would raise serious eyebrows with the NCAA. Most people are not going to willingly put themselves in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt just to ride the pine at Alabama when they have a free ride elsewhere.


So arch manning could go to OM as a walk on and allow OM to have another scholarship?

I'm thinking like Jarius does above. But on the flip side with someone like Arch Manning ... yea Archie might consider sending him to OM without a scholly. Not sure how the NCAA could create a rule against that tho they may have one.

PWO in that case for good athletes whose families are pretty damn well off.

[Commercecomet24]

If you are not providing someone with a scholarship then they do not count against your 85. It does not matter what someone else offered them. No one is walking on at Alabama when they have legit offers to other P5 schools unless they are extremely wealthy or just grew up a huge Alabama fan. That would raise serious eyebrows with the NCAA. Most people are not going to willingly put themselves in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt just to ride the pine at Alabama when they have a free ride elsewhere.

This.

[Todd4State]

There are also a lot of other rules with walk-ons. I believe only so many of them can work out with the team and use the S&C staff in summer and I think only like 105-110 players can report to fall camp before school. The other walk-ons can't report until after school starts for football as well. So walk-ons are at a big disadvantage and schools are going to want to make sure that all of their best players report to camp. That's probably one reason why you don't see very many walk-ons playing in the SEC.

So if you walk-on you can't get any other academic aid unless you are a blue shirt meaning you weren't recruited by the school you are going to which is very different than baseball. So you're paying your own way, have to get a private S&C coach to hope to have a chance to hang with the practice quad, and you have to show up to camp later than everyone else.

Someone like Arch Manning could easily pay their way at Ole Miss but the catch there is if you walk-on the NCAA won't let them announce them as part of their recruiting class which would hurt them in the rankings and we all know how much Ole Miss loves those. They're going to want the splash of getting him. And that's another reason why a lot of guys won't walk-on in general. They won't get "their day" to announce and be part of a signing class like the rest of their friends.

Not to mention less incentive for Alabama to not process you if you are a walk-on. APR and things like that factor in.

[HoopsDawg]

You aren't following me. I'm saying if you can get guys to walk on with legit offers without it counting against 85, you'd have 3-stars "walking on" at the blue bloods. I thought they cut that out

ETA... Bama signs their 25 this fall, and then talk 8 kids into walking on

That may happen when this pay for likeness stuff comes into play. Walk-on to Bama and we will have autograph sessions to get your scholarship paid for.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think the rule is they can't be a "recruited player". Meaning if the kid takes an official visit to another school, he can't be a walk-on.

[Ari Gold]

Good

His part time QB should follow him there next year... just saying

[ShotgunDawg]

His part time QB should follow him there next year... just saying

I don't have anything against him. I just wish MSU fans would realize that we have a national coach now and don't have offer the local home town kids just because they are home town.

Do Tuscaloosa HS, Baton Rouge, and Auburn HS residents feel like their colleges should offer the hometown kid?

I got tired of hearing about the kid to be honest. I feel like had he been from McComb, no one would've cared about him.

I feel the same way about ex players that everyone keeps pushing for coaching jobs on our staff. Unless they have the resume and have had prior success, I have no interest.

We're in the SEC for goodness sakes. Act like it

MSU is about to be a $130 mil per year athletic department yet some locals have trouble separating us from the local high schools

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Nothing has changed with Rufus & MSU. I still think it's a pretty good chance he ends up with an offer & in this class.

[ShotgunDawg]

Nothing has changed with Rufus & MSU. I still think it's a pretty good chance he ends up with an offer & in this class.

Good. If he's good enough & can help MSU, then I want him. I couldn't care less if he's from Starkville or the home town favorite.

[HailStateSZN19]

Nothing has changed with Rufus & MSU. I still think it's a pretty good chance he ends up with an offer & in this class.

IYOK, any updates or news on the Costello front?

[ShotgunDawg]

Really good video here if you want to compare Alex Adams, Tulu, Harvey, & Walley.

Video actually makes me feel better about not getting Adams. He looks solid, but not special. I was actually really impressed with Walley here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrVP7z-SsSE

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, any updates or news on the Costello front?

Still expect him to be a Dawg.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Really good video here if you want to compare Alex Adams, Tulu, Harvey, & Walley.

Video actually makes me feel better about not getting Adams. He looks solid, but not special. I was actually really impressed with Walley here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrVP7z-SsSE

Trust me Adams is a big miss if he can get qualified. He's the best WR instate in this class. He's clearly a 4* player.

[HailStateSZN19]

Still expect him to be a Dawg.

Niceeeeee! Any kind of timeline on when we should expect an announcement? Think it’s before Brice’s OV next weekend?

[Todd4State]

Trust me Adams is a big miss if he can get qualified. He's the best WR instate in this class. He's clearly a 4* player.

Agree. I hope he visits next weekend.

[Cooterpoot]

It sucks, but if you want Adams, you've got to hope he doesn't qualify. He's all LSU otherwise.

[ShotgunDawg]

Trust me Adams is a big miss if he can get qualified. He's the best WR instate in this class. He's clearly a 4* player.

Gotcha. Just stinks. I feel like had Leach had an entire year of recruiting him, he'd be ours.

LSU has no QB & a bunch of turnover. Sure they'll be good, but he's going to have to fight off 5* WRs for PT when he could play for Leach & catch 60+ balls per year and be pretty good

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Niceeeeee! Any kind of timeline on when we should expect an announcement? Think it’s before Brice’s OV next weekend?

Sometime this week & no I don't expect him to visit.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Agree. I hope he visits next weekend.

He's not.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Really good video here if you want to compare Alex Adams, Tulu, Harvey, & Walley.

Video actually makes me feel better about not getting Adams. He looks solid, but not special. I was actually really impressed with Walley here


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrVP7z-SsSE

Rufus is the best WR in the bunch and its not close. Walley has a higher ceiling but he hasnt played much actual WR

[ShotgunDawg]

I wonder if LSU really wants Adams or if they're just playing the odds that he won't qualify?

[dawgday166]

Trust me Adams is a big miss if he can get qualified. He's the best WR instate in this class. He's clearly a 4* player.

Harvey looked pretty good to me. The Coffey kid seemed to handle himself pretty decent. He get any offers?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I wonder if LSU really wants Adams or if they're just playing the odds that he won't qualify?

LSU wouldn't take him if they didn't want him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Harvey looked pretty good to me. The Coffey kid seemed to handle himself pretty decent. He get any offers?

Coffey was dropped by OM when Kiffin was hired. He's likely to end up at Duke.

[dawgday166]

Coffey was dropped by OM when Kiffin was hired. He's likely to end up at Duke.

He qualifies for Duke huh? Wow!

About 95% sure I played football with his Dad. His dad was a helluva football player but he wouldn't have qualified to any D1 school. Dropped out of school after senior season. Maybe he emphasized grades to his son.

You probably ain't gonna believe this but I ain't lying ... his dad lost best back in the conference 4-3 to Marcus Dupree.

[Cooterpoot]

I imagine we see Costello and Spencer on the commit list soon.

[Bothrops]

I imagine we see Costello and Spencer on the commit list soon.

Oh yeah?

[MetEdDawg]

I imagine we see Costello and Spencer on the commit list soon.

Spencer just announced his decommitment from Southern Miss on Twitter about 3 hours ago. So there's something happening there for sure

[Todd4State]

Harvey looked pretty good to me. The Coffey kid seemed to handle himself pretty decent. He get any offers?

I imagine that we will offer him soon. Especially with Adams off the board.

[Cooterpoot]

I imagine that we will offer him soon. Especially with Adams off the board.

He's basically got an offer. It's just pending him qualifying. Everyone making a big deal out of it is silliness. And if you believe he's the best WR in MS, that offer list disagrees. He's simply a best available type in-state if he qualifies. I think he will and I think he's on the commit list when he does. Not sure what all the Starkville fans will complain about then.

[Todd4State]

He's basically got an offer. It's just pending him qualifying. Everyone making a big deal out of it is silliness. And if you believe he's the best WR in MS, that offer list disagrees. He's simply a best available type in-state if he qualifies. I think he will and I think he's on the commit list when he does. Not sure what all the Starkville fans will complain about then.

I see him as a best available option since we need some more slot receivers since we're switching to the Air Raid. With Adams off the board then that makes him a little more of a priority.

[Cowbell]

He's basically got an offer. It's just pending him qualifying. Everyone making a big deal out of it is silliness. And if you believe he's the best WR in MS, that offer list disagrees. He's simply a best available type in-state if he qualifies. I think he will and I think he's on the commit list when he does. Not sure what all the Starkville fans will complain about then.

They will prolly say we ran Willy off (although some fans on here did act like they wanted him gone)

[Cowbell]

He qualifies for Duke huh? Wow!

About 95% sure I played football with his Dad. His dad was a helluva football player but he wouldn't have qualified to any D1 school. Dropped out of school after senior season. Maybe he emphasized grades to his son.

You probably ain't gonna believe this but I ain't lying ... his dad lost best back in the conference 4-3 to Marcus Dupree.

Poet and didn't even know it

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Anything on the transfer safety from Virginia? I caught the tail end of the Paul Jones interview on Matt Wyatt's radio show, but didn't hear the name of the player.

[HailStateSZN19]

Anything on the transfer safety from Virginia? I caught the tail end of the Paul Jones interview on Matt Wyatt's radio show, but didn't hear the name of the player.

Name is Chris Moore. Had like 41 tackles this year and 42 in 2018. Don't know much other than that on him though.

[bobcat91]

Moore is no longer visiting. Looking at a S from Mississippi Delta CC

[vv83]

Looks like some of our guys got a bump today

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Moore is no longer visiting. Looking at a S from Mississippi Delta CC

Got a name?

[HailStateSZN19]

Got a name?

Kyle Cass is his name.

[Irondawg]

What happened with Moore?

[Bothrops]

Another name to walch is Jamari Stewart, a 6'3 OLB out of Port Saint Lucie Florida with about 25 offers.

[msu15]

Another name to walch is Jamari Stewart, a 6'3 OLB out of Port Saint Lucie Florida with about 25 offers.

Reading between the tea leaves I think you can wrap him in Maroon, but we'll see.

[KOdawg1]

Another name to walch is Jamari Stewart, a 6'3 OLB out of Port Saint Lucie Florida with about 25 offers.

Good replacement if we couldn't land Jakivuan Brown or the McDonald kid

[Cooterpoot]

I could be wrong again, but I think we grab a commit or two this weekend (assuming visits go as planned).

[HailStateSZN19]

I could be wrong again, but I think we grab a commit or two this weekend (assuming visits go as planned).

Is that counting on Costello to commit to us or you talking about 1 or 2 of the HS kids coming in for an OV?

[Ari Gold]

Is that counting on Costello to commit to us or you talking about 1 or 2 of the HS kids coming in for an OV?

High school

[ShotgunDawg]

High school

Would you take Benson or Spencer?

Seems to me that unless Spencer is significantly better & you could only take 1, I'd take Benson to have a better chance at getting Brevard next year

What do you think?

[KOdawg1]

Would you take Benson or Spencer?

Seems to me that unless Spencer is significantly better & you could only take 1, I'd take Benson to have a better chance at getting Brevard next year

What do you think?
I predict we get Brevard regardless. He's really intrigued by the air raid offense. Looks like Spencer is headed to Missouri anyway, so we'll likely take Benson

[Cooterpoot]

Is that counting on Costello to commit to us or you talking about 1 or 2 of the HS kids coming in for an OV?

HS kids. I still don't feel bad about Costello or Spencer like some. MJ has help with Spencer though. Little surprised we passed on Rufus but oh well.

[HailStateSZN19]

HS kids. I still don't feel bad about Costello or Spencer like some. MJ has help with Spencer though. Little surprised we passed on Rufus but oh well.

MJ played with one of Spencer's relatives at OM didn't he? I'm sure that doesn't hurt anything.

Is it correct to assume if we're not going to offer Rufus that we are opting to hold that spot for a grad transfer WR after Spring?

Really hope Leach can seal the deal and close Costello tonight with his in-home. I just don't see Costello wasting Leach's time or Leach wasting his own time flying across the country to go see him tonight if we didn't feel pretty confident in landing him still.

[Cooterpoot]

We need a WR transfer. I've been saying that. But they need to be solid and not just a body. Costello has a lot of options. It's not just us and Washington. He could take several visits the next few weeks. Hopefully he makes a decision this weekend. Otherwise we start looking elsewhere pretty hard.

[Irondawg]

I don't think we'll know the full story on Rufus until the summer and see if he got qualified or not. If he gets into wherever he ends up signing (ASU or something else) then we can have a true debate about it.

[ShotgunDawg]

We need a WR transfer. I've been saying that. But they need to be solid and not just a body. Costello has a lot of options. It's not just us and Washington. He could take several visits the next few weeks. Hopefully he makes a decision this weekend. Otherwise we start looking elsewhere pretty hard.

I don't think we MUST get a grad trasfer QB. I'd just wait out Costello

[NCDawg]

I don't think we MUST get a grad trasfer QB. I'd just wait out Costello

I agree with this. We have four 4 star QB's on the roster now. I was impressed with Shrader's play last year, and think he has the potential to be very good-especially under Leach's tutelage.

[Cooterpoot]

I don't think we MUST get a grad trasfer QB. I'd just wait out Costello
Leach wants one. He's not going to wait around too long. But I think Costello makes the call this weekend. We shall see.

[Cooterpoot]

I agree with this. We have four 4 star QB's on the roster now. I was impressed with Shrader's play last year, and think he has the potential to be very good-especially under Leach's tutelage.

4 four stars? I see 3. But I only see one with a chance at starting here the next two years.

[FISHDAWG]

the last many years I don't think we even get a look from Costello - even under Mullen .......even if he signs somewhere else we were in contention - Hail Leach !!

[bulldawg28]

the last many years I don't think we even get a look from Costello - even under Mullen .......even if he signs somewhere else we were in contention - Hail Leach !!

Moral victory huh?

[maroonmania]

I predict we get Brevard regardless. He's really intrigued by the air raid offense. Looks like Spencer is headed to Missouri anyway, so we'll likely take Benson

Yea, apparently Dylan Spencer is related to Chris Spencer who was an OM teammate of Marcus Johnson on the OL. Pretty significant relationship there.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Yea, apparently Dylan Spencer is related to Chris Spencer who was an OM teammate of Marcus Johnson on the OL. Pretty significant relationship there.

Scott Lashley and uncle Johnny Cooks say hello.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Scott Lashley and uncle Johnny Cooks say hello.

Cooks wasn't his uncle.

[HailStateSZN19]

IYOK, any update or rumor on how the Costello visit went? Been radio silent so far (I do realize it's only 8:20 am and 6:20 am there, just figured something would have leaked out later last night on how things went).

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, any update or rumor on how the Costello visit went? Been radio silent so far (I do realize it's only 8:20 am and 6:20 am there, just figured something would have leaked out later last night on how things went).

There's not going to be a lot of info about it.

[CadaverDawg]

Rufus visiting this weekend officially now? Saw that on Twitter

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Rufus visiting this weekend officially now? Saw that on Twitter

https://247sports.com/college/mississippi-state/Season/2020-Football/Visits/

According to this he is.

[Madisonmd]

Where did E. Jai Mason end up signing?

[Madisonmd]

Starkville insiders are saying academics will play a role with Harvey recruitment

[Westdawg]

Khalil Benson is on his way down to MSU for his visit.

[maroonmania]

Cooks wasn't his uncle.

And we aren't Alabama

[bigplayslay]

Where did E. Jai Mason end up signing?

He hasn't signed yet according to 247.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Where did E. Jai Mason end up signing?

I've heard one of Mason's problems is that he is too slow to play wideout, and not really big enough to play tight end. Maybe somebody can confirm.

Of course the new staff is not really targeting many tight ends, and they know exactly what they want in wideouts.

[chef dixon]

So who we gonna get besides this long snapper? Predictions welcome

[MetEdDawg]

Jamari Stewart on a visit this weekend correct? How do we feel about that one?

[timotheus]

very good on stewart

[KOdawg1]

So who we gonna get besides this long snapper? Predictions welcome

Stewart
Harvey
Benson
Cass
Costello

[CadaverDawg]

Brice is headed to Duke

[maroonmania]

Brice is headed to Duke

I will take that as a good sign on Costello.

[Ari Gold]

I will take that as a good sign on Costello.

His decision to go to Duke has no barring on what Costello decides.

[ShotgunDawg]

Anyone got any insight into the recruitment of this 5* RB Zachary Evans that Ole Miss has a chance with?

How is the hell is a 5* RB considering them?

[msstate7]

Anyone got any insight into the recruitment of this 5* RB Zachary Evans that Ole Miss has a chance with?

How is the hell is a 5* RB considering them?

That would be 2 5-star RBs on their roster. Let's hope this doesn't happen

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Anyone got any insight into the recruitment of this 5* RB Zachary Evans that Ole Miss has a chance with?

How is the hell is a 5* RB considering them?

Do some research on him. It's a reason UGA LSU & Bama bowed out & its not talent. He's an amazing talent but he has a lot of issues. There's a part of the OM staff who don't want him but the PR part of OM won't let them turn him away.

[ShotgunDawg]

That would be 2 5-star RBs on their roster. Let's hope this doesn't happen

I just don't get what the draw is.

[hacker]

I just don't get what the draw is.

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/32/4by3/2019/07/24/325cba5234c04556b50c481deb102081_md.jpg

[Ifyouonlyknew]

https://247sports.com/Article/Zach-Evans-recruitment-Tennessee-Georgia-Texas-AM-Ole-Miss-USC--143141489/

[Cooterpoot]

You want to see scumbag recruiting, just follow Evans. He's a nut job and the coaches chasing are bottom of the barrel and desperate to make a recruiting splash.

[Ari Gold]

https://247sports.com/Article/Zach-Evans-recruitment-Tennessee-Georgia-Texas-AM-Ole-Miss-USC--143141489/

Bottom line.. best of luck to whoever lands this kid

[ShotgunDawg]

https://247sports.com/Article/Zach-Evans-recruitment-Tennessee-Georgia-Texas-AM-Ole-Miss-USC--143141489/

Good heavens

[KOdawg1]

Do some research on him. It's a reason UGA LSU & Bama bowed out & its not talent. He's an amazing talent but he has a lot of issues. There's a part of the OM staff who don't want him but the PR part of OM won't let them turn him away.

OM will never turn down a 5 star. I hope they get him. That nutcase will be a locker room cancer

[Ari Gold]

There is a reason you see the “OM hat” at the table of a lot of these big time recruits.. and it’s not because they are really considering OM..

And props to OM for getting the brand out there.. they are very good at it.. we could learn a lot ..

[ShotgunDawg]

There is a reason you see the “OM hat” at the table of a lot of these big time recruits.. and it’s not because they are really considering OM..

And props to OM for getting the brand out there.. they are very good at it.. we could learn a lot ..

Absolutely.

They do a good job of "getting in the conversation" which builds recruiting momentum for them & makes it acceptable for highly rated recruits to visit there

[CadaverDawg]

Can someone give me a run down of our WR recruiting in this class? I admittedly quit keeping up with recruiting while JoMo was our coach because I knew it wouldn't matter, so I have no idea what we have coming in WR wise. Also, are we after any grad transfer WR's? And what does our receiver room look like in addition to the known guys like Mitchell, Payton, Williams, and Heath? Any redshirts that have looked good in practice, like Torbor? Thanks

[KOdawg1]

Can someone give me a run down of our WR recruiting in this class? I admittedly quit keeping up with recruiting while JoMo was our coach because I knew it wouldn't matter, so I have no idea what we have coming in WR wise. Also, are we after any grad transfer WR's? And what does our receiver room look like in addition to the known guys like Mitchell, Payton, Williams, and Heath? Any redshirts that have looked good in practice, like Torbor? Thanks

Tulu Griffin- 4 star, slot guy, good speed, good offers, needs to hit the weight room

Malik Heath- about damn time

Jaden Walley- can play outside or inside, good offers, played QB in HS but like his potential

Caleb Ducking - JUCO guy in a triple option offense so not a lot of film. 6'5 with good speed though. Tested well at one of our camps

[CadaverDawg]

Tulu Griffin- 4 star, slot guy, good speed, good offers, needs to hit the weight room

Malik Heath- about damn time

Jaden Walley- can play outside or inside, good offers, played QB in HS but like his potential

Caleb Ducking - JUCO guy in a triple option offense so not a lot of film. 6'5 with good speed though. Tested well at one of our camps

Thanks, doesn't seem like a great WR class outside of Heath. What about guys like Torbor? Are he or any other young guys expected to make a big jump?

[HailStateSZN19]

Tulu Griffin- 4 star, slot guy, good speed, good offers, needs to hit the weight room

Malik Heath- about damn time

Jaden Walley- can play outside or inside, good offers, played QB in HS but like his potential

Caleb Ducking - JUCO guy in a triple option offense so not a lot of film. 6'5 with good speed though. Tested well at one of our camps

Malik and Tulu headline the WR class, as they should bc they're legit 4-star guys. BUT, I'm most excited about Walley. I really think he's going to blossom into a star in this offense. He's a diamond in the rough that was underrated and a bit overlooked. I think he winds up having the best career in this offense out of this year's and last year's WR classes.

[Bothrops]

Thanks, doesn't seem like a great WR class outside of Heath. What about guys like Torbor? Are he or any other young guys expected to make a big jump?

Torbor is going to be a good receiver. Tulu can fly, and it's one of our better WR classes.

[Todd4State]

Based on history Leach is going to develop our receivers into productive players regardless of their 247 "evaluation." If we happen to land a legit four star WR they're probably going to look like Crabtree. Same with QB really. If Leach can maintain his history and we can maintain our defensive history we are in for some good football seasons.

[Bothrops]

Based on history Leach is going to develop our receivers into productive players regardless of their 247 "evaluation." If we happen to land a legit four star WR they're probably going to look like Crabtree. Same with QB really. If Leach can maintain his history and we can maintain our defensive history we are in for some good football seasons.

Agreed. The days of limp dick offense at MSU is over.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So if we pull a couple highly rated transfers will our staff get the same title.

Well that's 2.

[maroonmania]

OM will never turn down a 5 star. I hope they get him. That nutcase will be a locker room cancer

Basically the same type of deal to a lesser extent on how they got Matt Corral.

[Lance Harbor]

Is Corral staying in Oxford?


Basically the same type of deal to a lesser extent on how they got Matt Corral.

[Todd4State]

Is Corral staying in Oxford?

I would imagine so. He fits Kiffin's offense better than Plumlee. If RichRod had stayed I think he goes in the portal.

[msu15]

I would imagine so. He fits Kiffin's offense better than Plumlee. If RichRod had stayed I think he goes in the portal.

There is no if. If tsun didn't fire Luke and Rod stayed he was gone. He had already moved some of his stuff back home to Cali.

[ShotgunDawg]

As we get closer to NSD, I can't help but wonder what McKinley Jackson's asking price was?

MSU has produced more stud DL than most any school in the country & yet we get no interest from an in-state kid? GTFOH

This kid set a ludicrous price for his services & the team that signs him won't even be investigated.

BTW, who is signing him? I've heard virtually nothing about his recruitment

[FISHDAWG]

As we get closer to NSD, I can't help but wonder what McKinley Jackson's asking price was?

MSU has produced more stud DL than most any school in the country & yet we get no interest from an in-state kid? GTFOH

This kid set a ludicrous price for his services & the team that signs him won't even be investigated.

BTW, who is signing him? I've heard virtually nothing about his recruitment

IDK but this sure sounds like sour grapes ... we're better than that

[ShotgunDawg]

IDK but this sure sounds like sour grapes ... we're better than that

Except it's probably true. Stop thinking this stuff is above board.

It is sour grapes in the fact that other schools can pay players & we can't

[ZedFedder]

Except it's probably true. Stop thinking this stuff is above board.

It is sour grapes in the fact that other schools can pay players & we can't

Dude, if you don't think we pay players, I don't know what to tell you. He just didn't want to come here.

[BankerDog]

As we get closer to NSD, I can't help but wonder what McKinley Jackson's asking price was?

MSU has produced more stud DL than most any school in the country & yet we get no interest from an in-state kid? GTFOH

This kid set a ludicrous price for his services & the team that signs him won't even be investigated.

BTW, who is signing him? I've heard virtually nothing about his recruitment

There is a reason LSU dropped him and there is a reason MSU is not recruiting him. It says a lot when his HS coach, a former MSU player, told our coaches to be careful. He is a good kid, but like Evans mentioned above, has people surrounding him that do not need to be around our program. You?ve got to stop looking at just the player, bud. A lot of things go on behind the scenes that you will never hear.

Also, if you think we aren?t playing the game too then I just don?t know what to tell you.

[OLJWales]

Is there a link to who all's still left on our board?

[ShotgunDawg]

Dude, if you don't think we pay players, I don't know what to tell you. He just didn't want to come here.

I'm not saying that. I simply saying that this reeks of a kid wanting teams to go 120 mph down the freeway instead of going 80 in a 70. Every program pays players, but most don't go 120 in a 70.

As for him "just not wanting to come here". I doubt it. In fact, my guess is that he really doesn't care where he goes as long as they pay the piper. I just wish someone down there would get some evidence & turn A&M or Bama in

[ShotgunDawg]

. You?ve got to stop looking at just the player, bud. A lot of things go on behind the scenes that you will never hear.

Also, if you think we aren?t playing the game too then I just don?t know what to tell you.

I'm not stupid man. I get it. This situation just seems to above & beyond the norm & I can't imagine what A&M & Bama are doing to be a finalist for him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Some things are better left off of a public message board.

[OLJWales]

Would love to know Stewart, rufus & benson other names, thanks

[ShotgunDawg]

Would love to know Stewart, rufus & benson other names, thanks

Does it matter anymore?

He's obviously not coming here. Why protect schools that are cheating within our boarders by keeping this stuff out of the public eye?

[OLJWales]

Does it matter anymore?

He's obviously not coming here. Why protect schools that are cheating within our boarders by keeping this stuff out of the public eye?

Are you talking about McKinley Jackson? I'm just looking for complete names for the other 3 I mentioned

[OLJWales]

Never mind, got em

[Todd4State]

I'm not stupid man. I get it. This situation just seems to above & beyond the norm & I can't imagine what A&M & Bama are doing to be a finalist for him.

Decent chance he ends up being Charles Moore 2.0 if I had to guess.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Decent chance he ends up being Charles Moore 2.0 if I had to guess.

Jackson will play as a freshman so I don't see him pulling a Charles.

[timotheus]

He's not a Charles Moore. He just needs much appreciation passed his way and he has a network of handlers.

[ShotgunDawg]

He's not a Charles Moore. He just needs much appreciation passed his way and he has a network of handlers.

So how have Bama and A&M dealt with the handlers?

[timotheus]

They are showing how much they appre$$iate his talent. Freddie Roach couldn't pull him to oxford so now freddie tries to get him to tuscaloosa

[raymonddawg]

It looks like (per 247 recruiting time line) that Miami was strongly pursing Jamari Stewart this time last year. Anybody have any idea what happened and why they pulled off?

[Bothrops]

As we get closer to NSD, I can't help but wonder what McKinley Jackson's asking price was?

MSU has produced more stud DL than most any school in the country & yet we get no interest from an in-state kid? GTFOH

This kid set a ludicrous price for his services & the team that signs him won't even be investigated.

BTW, who is signing him? I've heard virtually nothing about his recruitment

He definitely seems to have a hand out.

[ShotgunDawg]

He definitely seems to have a hand out.

So why does everyone else have to back off but Bama is able to keep recruiting him without being turned in?

[Todd4State]

So why does everyone else have to back off but Bama is able to keep recruiting him without being turned in?

Well we are on probation. We can't take chances right now. I still think there is a pretty high chance the guy flames out because typically most kids with handlers get bad advice and tell a guy to do things that they shouldn't. And when thing ls go sideways they don't give a rip about taking MSU down because all they want is their name in the paper.

See Marcus Dupree.

And it may not work out for them at Alabama. That's the risk they take and their headache.

[Santiago]

It has been fun, 2020 Recruiting Thread. Good work.

[ShotgunDawg]

It has been fun, 2020 Recruiting Thread. Good work.

You can't handle the truth

[Cowbell]

Well we are on probation. We can't take chances right now. I still think there is a pretty high chance the guy flames out because typically most kids with handlers get bad advice and tell a guy to do things that they shouldn't. And when thing ls go sideways they don't give a rip about taking MSU down because all they want is their name in the paper.

See Marcus Dupree.

And it may not work out for them at Alabama. That's the risk they take and their headache.

I was just about to Bring up Marcus Dupree.

[Santiago]

You can't handle the truth

ok Sybil.

[HailStateSZN19]

https://twitter.com/tdaragincajuns/status/1225575101007114242?s=21

What’s up here? Haven’t seen or read anything on this. So we lose that scholarship that we signed him with in December? I guess this at least puts us 1 spot closer to being under the 83 number but can we use his spot on someone else? I don’t understand how this is going to affect the 28-30 signing number or the 83 overall roster number. Can someone explain that to me?

[BrunswickDawg]

https://twitter.com/tdaragincajuns/status/1225575101007114242?s=21

What’s up here? Haven’t seen or read anything on this. So we lose that scholarship that we signed him with in December? I guess this at least puts us 1 spot closer to being under the 83 number but can we use his spot on someone else? I don’t understand how this is going to affect the 28-30 signing number or the 83 overall roster number. Can someone explain that to me?

Shouldn't impact the signing number since he was a grad transfer - only impacts the 83

[Irondawg]

Did we suddenly not want him?

[Dallas_Dawg]

Guess Ruiz doesn't want to be a PAT kicker***

[Todd4State]

https://twitter.com/tdaragincajuns/status/1225575101007114242?s=21

What’s up here? Haven’t seen or read anything on this. So we lose that scholarship that we signed him with in December? I guess this at least puts us 1 spot closer to being under the 83 number but can we use his spot on someone else? I don’t understand how this is going to affect the 28-30 signing number or the 83 overall roster number. Can someone explain that to me?

Ruiz is coming to MSU. There was some miscommunication.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Ruiz is coming to MSU. There was some miscommunication.

The "miscommunication" was that the UL "source" was quoted as saying "The paperwork is in for Ruiz". The part those people reporting on the story didn't know is the paperwork in question was a financial aid agreement that Ruiz sent to several schools as a backup in case the new staff didn't want him.