THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Groce was at the cookout this past weekend so I would assume we are actively recruiting him

He's on the board but he couldn't commit right now.

[jacksondawg]

Brown just flipped to om

[KOdawg1]

Go get Groce and/or Cooper

[Ifyouonlyknew]

He's on the board but he couldn't commit right now.

We'll see if this changes now. Although brown is an OLB & Groce MLB.

[MetEdDawg]

Brown just flipped to om

24/7 has him ranked 23rd in the state. I know he's at a spot of need but is this really a big loss for us? I would imagine Moorhead would be able to fill his spot fairly easily.

[KOdawg1]

We'll see if this changes now. Although brown is an OLB & Groce MLB.

I like Groce's offer list. Bama, Auburn, OU, Tenn, GT.. Now, I'm sure some of them aren't committable offers, but it's obvious the kid is talented. And from pictures I've seen of him, he looks like a tank.

Wheat will be an OLB, right? That gives us 2 including McDonald. I don't see the problem of getting Groce in the boat to take Brown's spot.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I like Groce's offer list. Bama, Auburn, OU, Tenn, GT.. Now, I'm sure some of them aren't committable offers, but it's obvious the kid is talented. And from pictures I've seen of him, he looks like a tank.

Wheat will be an OLB, right? That gives us 2 including McDonald. I don't see the problem of getting Groce in the boat to take Brown's spot.

We're recruiting Wheat for inside but he can play outside.

[KOdawg1]

We're recruiting Wheat for inside but he can play outside.

Oh okay. I figured he'd be outside since he's transitioning from Safety. He must have put on some weight.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Oh okay. I figured he'd be outside since he's transitioning from Safety. He must have put on some weight.

He's around 235. He played last year at 225.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Im not saying not getting Brown isnt a loss but if I had to pick one I would def take Groce

[KOdawg1]

Bell is ringing. Got to be Wheat

[chef dixon]

We pretty much have at least 1 or 2 every year that commit early then change to Ole Miss a couple months later. Whats the point? And rarely happens the other way

[KOdawg1]

We pretty much have at least 1 or 2 every year that commit early then change to Ole Miss a couple months later. Whats the point? And rarely happens the other way

Ole Miss lives for flipping recruits from us. It literally is what they live for.

It's all about perception to them

[msstate7]

We pretty much have at least 1 or 2 every year that commit early then change to Ole Miss a couple months later. Whats the point? And rarely happens the other way

What happened?

[ShotgunDawg]

We pretty much have at least 1 or 2 every year that commit early then change to Ole Miss a couple months later. Whats the point? And rarely happens the other way

And rarely do the flips turn out to be any good

[chef dixon]

And rarely do the flips turn out to be any good

True. Dannis Jackson would have been nice to find out ourselves though.

[HoopsDawg]

Bell is ringing. Got to be Wheat

10 Juco Commits. 8 that will actually sign. 4 from Co-Lin.

[msstate7]

10 Juco Commits. 8 that will actually sign. 4 from Co-Lin.

Are we done with jucos? Seems that's a big number

[Todd4State]

Are we done with jucos? Seems that's a big number

This is why I keep saying that we are going to oversign. Not to mention Cole Smith is now in this class as a transfer as well.

Personally I don't mind it as a one time thing because if we didn't we could potentially have a lot of holes in 2020. I think some of them are three year guys as well which is a little bit different than a two year guy.

[bulldawg28]

Are we done with jucos? Seems that's a big number

Do what you have to to close the gap in 2020. We're losing alot next year. If KT transfers we could end the bowl streak and struggle to win 5 games without immediate help.

[KOdawg1]

Joe deleted the tweet. Guess the kid wasn't ready to commit just yet.

[msstate7]

Unless Brown is the placed "flip" that UM loves so much.

Nailed it

[Doggie_Style]

If Gay and Thompson leave after this year we are left with Watson, Brule and Jett Johnson at LB.......did I miss someone? We really need Wheat in this class.

[Doggie_Style]

This is why I keep saying that we are going to oversign. Not to mention Cole Smith is now in this class as a transfer as well.

Personally I don't mind it as a one time thing because if we didn't we could potentially have a lot of holes in 2020. I think some of them are three year guys as well which is a little bit different than a two year guy.

Malik Heath 3 tp 2
Davonte McCrea 3 tp 3
Ben Key 3 tp 2
Tre Lawson 2 tp 2
Sebastien Dolcine 2 tp 2
Caleb Ducking 3 tp 2
T. Wheat 3 tp 2
J. Davis 3 tp 2

Only McRae has 3 to play 3. Also the only guys that will RS are Ducking and Key. In two years you have to replace 5 of those.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Malik Heath 3 tp 2
Davonte McCrea 3 tp 3
Ben Key 3 tp 2
Tre Lawson 2 tp 2
Sebastien Dolcine 2 tp 2
Caleb Ducking 3 tp 2
T. Wheat 3 tp 2
J. Davis 3 tp 2

Only McRae has 3 to play 3. Also the only guys that will RS are Ducking and Key. In two years you have to replace 5 of those.

I wouldn't bet on Key RS just yet. We only have 11 scholarship Soph on the roster so those 5-6 extra guys in the class helps balance out that class.

[Doggie_Style]

I wouldn't bet on Key RS just yet. We only have 11 scholarship Soph on the roster so those 5-6 extra guys in the class helps balance out that class.

That's a good point but Key has played so little football that he really needs that RS year IMO

[MetEdDawg]

Joe deleted the tweet. Guess the kid wasn't ready to commit just yet.

Do we know or have any rumors as to who it was? My guess was Groce or Wheat but I don't know that for a fact.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That's a good point but Key has played so little football that he really needs that RS year IMO

I think this season may change your thinking on Key but it's a good option to have.

[Lance Harbor]

Hahahah...It's kinda laughable how transparent the "flip" is.


Nailed it

[KOdawg1]

Do we know or have any rumors as to who it was? My guess was Groce or Wheat but I don't know that for a fact.

I would guess Wheat, but who knows. It had been said that he was going to wait to make his decision, but maybe the staff pushed him for a commitment, and he started to but still wasn't ready. As long as we get him in the end, I don't care.

[KOdawg1]

Hahahah...It's kinda laughable how transparent the "flip" is.

They have one every year. It's what they live for.

[Commercecomet24]

They have one every year. It's what they live for.

Yep and it's become so predictable it doesn't even cause a stir anymore.

[Bothrops]

Do what you have to to close the gap in 2020. We're losing alot next year. If KT transfers we could end the bowl streak and struggle to win 5 games without immediate help.

If we lose Key, the next qb steps up.

[Scared_Hitless]

Just a question, but do we have any shot with McKinley Jackson or is that a pipe dream with his level of interest?

[Bothrops]

Just a question, but do we have any shot with McKinley Jackson or is that a pipe dream with his level of interest?

We chose Cooley instead. They like him better.

[Scared_Hitless]

We chose Cooley instead. They like him better.

Interesting thanks for the info. Would it not be a take both situation if presented?

[Bothrops]

Interesting thanks for the info. Would it not be a take both situation if presented?

I think we are completely done at the DL.

[BrunswickDawg]

Bell ringing again - Wheat

[Lance Harbor]

Hot take!


I like how Brown quoted his commitment, he said he is furthering his education and career at MSU. He did not say he is just committing. I know it does not mean much but it shows another level of maturity to me.

[chef dixon]

Hot take!

Lol nice

[maroonmania]

Yep and it's become so predictable it doesn't even cause a stir anymore.

Pretty sad days on the plantation when they are having to orchestrate the "flip" using the #23 ranked player in the State.

[KOdawg1]

Pretty sad days on the plantation when they are having to orchestrate the "flip" using the #23 ranked player in the State.

They won't stop there. They'll pull out all the stops to get Forbes

[msstate7]

Pretty sad days on the plantation when they are having to orchestrate the "flip" using the #23 ranked player in the State.

When he committed here, he was considered a stud and a soon-to-be 4-star (see pages in this thread around beginning of June). Now he's 23rd player in the state. This is why I just look at the composite rankings

[Dolphus Raymond]

I really do not buy the “planted/orchestrated flip” hypothesis, in that it seems to be too much of a high risk-low return ploy. Getting outed would be embarrassing, and depending on a 17 year old high school boy is a risky proposition.

[FriarsPoint]

I really do not buy the “planted/orchestrated flip” hypothesis, in that it seems to be too much of a high risk-low return ploy. Getting outed would be embarrassing, and depending on a 17 year old high school boy is a risky proposition.

It’s not risky if you stack the deck. I have no idea what went on in this particular instance, I’m just going on past experience.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Brown is going to be a good player no spinning that in my eyes. But Moorhead is still winning the recruiting battle in this class and its not really close

[KOdawg1]

When he committed here, he was considered a stud and a soon-to-be 4-star (see pages in this thread around beginning of June). Now he's 23rd player in the state. This is why I just look at the composite rankings

Look at 247sports actual ratings. Composite includes ESPN who doesn't have a clue outside of the top prospects

[Ari Gold]

Huge pull with Wheat . Starter day 1 he gets on campus ..

[maroonmania]

Brown is going to be a good player no spinning that in my eyes. But Moorhead is still winning the recruiting battle in this class and its not really close

Brown may end up being a quality player in the SEC, who knows. My only point was he is not the level of recruit that is going to turn any heads when flipping from MSU to OM. If OM or Brown were looking for a splash from a "flip", they are lucky to get a ripple on this one.

[Commercecomet24]

Brown may end up being a quality player in the SEC, who knows. My only point was he is not the level of recruit that is going to turn any heads when flipping from MSU to OM. If OM or Brown were looking for a splash from a "flip", they are lucky to get a ripple on this one.

om has done this "flip" so often it's lost it's dramatic effect for them. Everyone expects it now. Like you said barely a ripple.

[timotheus]

He need a RS year and mite see regular action by his RS junior year. By then McEntyre will be gone so there is no telling what will go down.

[ShotgunDawg]

To me this JUCO vs HS recruiting thing is similar to the question in the baseball draft between HS and college players: HS players offer ceiling to dream on while also having a floor of never making the Major Leagues while college players may have less to dream on but have a much higher percentage chance of contributing.

So that brings me to my point. I like adding these JUCOs because they are way less risky than the HS kids. Most Everyone of these JUCOs we are signing will contribute to winning on the field while only a few of the HS kids will. Look back at Dandy Donzens and our previous classes. It's clear

Yes, it's fun to think about that project HS kid and dream that he could turn into a stud due to his measurables but the truth is that there is about an 80+% chance he's gonna suck and never contribute. Sure, if you can sign 4/5 star HS kids that have a much higher floor, then you should, but give me JUCOs that will contribute over taking fliers and chances on dudes that won't likely ever play.

We're about to have less dead weight on our roster than we've ever had.

[msstate7]

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[Ifyouonlyknew]

He need a RS year and mite see regular action by his RS junior year. By then McEntyre will be gone so there is no telling what will go down.

He'll play as a RS freshman.

[timotheus]

Will he grasp the mental part that quickly? I am aware of his his physical skill to a degree.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Will he grasp the mental part that quickly? I am aware of his his physical skill to a degree.

He'll be fine

[Todd4State]

To me this JUCO vs HS recruiting thing is similar to the question in the baseball draft between HS and college players: HS players offer ceiling to dream on while also having a floor of never making the Major Leagues while college players may have less to dream on but have a much higher percentage chance of contributing.

So that brings me to my point. I like adding these JUCOs because they are way less risky than the HS kids. Most Everyone of these JUCOs we are signing will contribute to winning on the field while only a few of the HS kids will. Look back at Dandy Donzens and our previous classes. It's clear

Yes, it's fun to think about that project HS kid and dream that he could turn into a stud due to his measurables but the truth is that there is about an 80+% chance he's gonna suck and never contribute. Sure, if you can sign 4/5 star HS kids that have a much higher floor, then you should, but give me JUCOs that will contribute over taking fliers and chances on dudes that won't likely ever play.

We're about to have less dead weight on our roster than we've ever had.

Our biggest issue isn't guys developing. It's not filling every position group in recruiting causing us to backfill with JUCO's.

[MetEdDawg]

Our biggest issue isn't guys developing. It's not filling every position group in recruiting causing us to backfill with JUCO's.

This. Mullen did a great job finding guys. But he didn't find enough and we constantly had position groups that were weak. Most every year WR was an issue. CBs were issues at times. OL and depth were issues. 2014 was the only year where you didn't look at the team and see a glaring weakness.

That to me is the biggest thing Moorhead can do to change the perception. It's one thing for us to have a class ranked 27 or 28. But you can't sign 5 corners in one class and call that a success because you have depth issues there. That ultimately leads to future depth issues if 20% of your signing class is at 1 position. Moorhead is juco recruiting this year out of necessity but hopefully he can not only get the ranking higher by finding quality talent, but limit the positional holes on the team.

It's one thing to have a hole. But if you've got 2 or 3 you can't compete in the SEC at a decent level. We have some unknowns for sure this year. But I think Moorhead has done a good job in 2 classes of setting us to not have holes in the future. RB will be a question mark but he's addressed that in this class. He's done a good job of balancing needs and getting solid talent so far.
When

[Bothrops]

Mullen's job shopping stymied his recruiting. At the same time, it made his efforts to secure commits difficult .

[HoopsDawg]

When he committed here, he was considered a stud and a soon-to-be 4-star (see pages in this thread around beginning of June). Now he's 23rd player in the state. This is why I just look at the composite rankings

composite rankings lost most of their value when Scout and 247 merged.

[msstate7]

composite rankings lost most of their value when Scout and 247 merged.

I'm not saying they're accurate, but I trust them more than message boards. Guys are studs when they commit to us, and not that good when they decommit. Too much emotion goes in to how good a player is on a message board

[Todd4State]

I'm not saying they're accurate, but I trust them more than message boards. Guys are studs when they commit to us, and not that good when they decommit. Too much emotion goes in to how good a player is on a message board

You consistently put too much trust in the wrong things. Which shows how bad your arguments are-because you only pick what you want that fits your narrative.

[Todd4State]

composite rankings lost most of their value when Scout and 247 merged.

Exactly. I'm not sure why 24/7 even bothers with it.

[maroonmania]

Exactly. I'm not sure why 24/7 even bothers with it.

Agree, at this point the 24/7 ranking is better than the composite given the other 2 sources are now Rivals and ESPN which are both very unreliable.

[KOdawg1]

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

[Homedawg]

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

We have more than a spot or two. Several won't be in this class.

[BuckyIsAB****]

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

Im assuming a spot will be saved for Parks and Groce

[KOdawg1]

Im assuming a spot will be saved for Parks and Groce

I had thought about Groce. It would be great if we could get in the game with Parks, but we need to get him down here.

[Todd4State]

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

I'm sure we'll still go after Adams and at least one more OL. I wonder if we will "place" Montra Edwards at Co-Lin? LB seems to be an area of need as well. One interesting thing to me was an interview I saw with Malik Heath where he said that he was going to try to convince Kundarrious Taylor to join the Co-Lin guys at MSU. Not sure how the coaches feel about that however.

Patterson is really interesting to me. Apparently he is at Hinds now but no one knew about except likely our coaches and all of the "experts" thought he was just not in school and slacking around. Pretty odd situation obviously.

[Jarius]

Exactly. I'm not sure why 24/7 even bothers with it.

Because it is a marketing tool. Before the composite everyone that talked about recruiting on tv used different ranking services to show where each player was ranked. Now, every time you see a recruiting show on tv they talk about where the player was ranked on the 247 composite. It is universally used. That’s great publicity for 247. I agree that their rankings are the best but from a business standpoint they aren’t going away from the composite.

[Ari Gold]

So moving forward..

We don't have much room left. Maybe a spot or two if it's someone you absolutely can't turn down. I don't think Patterson (processed) or Anderson-Butts (re-classified) will end up in the class, which will drop our JUCO number to 8 (for those who have gotten in a frenzy about it). This will also open up a couple of more spots. We'll probably look for another OLB, and I think Edgerrin Cooper will be the main target there. Who knows if we can flip him from OU though. Are there any other OLB targets out there? I don't see many

Then I guess we'll target Alex Adams and Jaden Walley as WRs, but other than that, I'm not sure what the next move would be, if any.
Ari or IYOK, are there any other guys we might pursue?

Numbers will work themselves out..

[ScoobaDawg]

not sure why locked. open. so yall can continue to freak out about anything and everything.

[No BS Dawg]

Thanks, Scooba! I was freaking out because I didn't have anything to freak out about!*****

[msstate7]

Yancy CB'd forbes to OM. Yancy being yancy or a legit concern?

[Ari Gold]

Yancy CB'd forbes to OM. Yancy being yancy or a legit concern?

Forbes won’t be settled until signing day.. no matter what happens between now and then.
Saying that I had rather be us then them right now.

[Doggie_Style]

Forbes won?t be settled until signing day.. no matter what happens between now and then.
Saying that I had rather be us then them right now.

I'm not sure we can wait that long. With Forbes being a lifelong OM fan, we have a high hill to climb to win that battle. I think Joe will press the issue with him so that we will have time to get someone else in the boat before signing day in 4 months.

[msstate7]

Are we recruiting Jarquez Hunter for next year? He's a neshoba central kid, so I hope he's good enough to get an offer from us. I'll see he and Forbes game 1 in a few weeks

[Pipedream]

I'm not saying they're accurate, but I trust them more than message boards. Guys are studs when they commit to us, and not that good when they decommit. Too much emotion goes in to how good a player is on a message board

Everyone takes a dump on the composite (and Rivals and ESPN by association), but if you look at where they ranked guys on our current roster-Rivals has 1 less 4* than 247 and ESPN has 7 MORE 4*s than 247 had ranked. I'm not saying those two services are good or bad at what they do, but if 247 is considered the gold standard, which I agree with, then Rivals isn't far off, and ESPN has been more favorable towards State commits than any other network. I like the composite. I think it gives the most objective view. Why wouldn't you want more data on these prospects? I've never understood the angst towards it. It's all because of the little brother syndrome some State fans have towards OM and them finishing with a higher class last year and being ahead this year.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Are we recruiting Jarquez Hunter for next year? He's a neshoba central kid, so I hope he's good enough to get an offer from us. I'll see he and Forbes game 1 in a few weeks

I'm sure we'll offer & im almost 100% sure he won't be at MSU.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Everyone takes a dump on the composite (and Rivals and ESPN by association), but if you look at where they ranked guys on our current roster-Rivals has 1 less 4* than 247 and ESPN has 7 MORE 4*s than 247 had ranked. I'm not saying those two services are good or bad at what they do, but if 247 is considered the gold standard, which I agree with, then Rivals isn't far off, and ESPN has been more favorable towards State commits than any other network. I like the composite. I think it gives the most objective view. Why wouldn't you want more data on these prospects? I've never understood the angst towards it. It's all because of the little brother syndrome some State fans have towards OM and them finishing with a higher class last year and being ahead this year.

5 page argument in 3 2 1

[msu15]

I'm sure we'll offer & im almost 100% sure he won't be at MSU.

Staying with his red & blue colors?

[KOdawg1]

Staying with his red & blue colors?

I think he goes out of state. He's that good

[KOdawg1]

Since things are quiet for now on the 2020 front and we're already talking about 2021, between Luke Altmyer and Ty Keyes, which is the most talented and fits our offense better? Just by watching their film, Keyes looks like the more athletic of the two even though he has a good arm too, and Luke seems to be the prototypical Pro-style QB. Both have legit SEC offers, and I was just wondering which one we prefer

[msstate7]

Staying with his red & blue colors?

Let's hope not

[BuckyIsAB****]

Since things are quiet for now on the 2020 front and we're already talking about 2021, between Luke Altmyer and Ty Keyes, which is the most talented and fits our offense better? Just by watching their film, Keyes looks like the more athletic of the two even though he has a good arm too, and Luke seems to be the prototypical Pro-style QB. Both have legit SEC offers, and I was just wondering which one we prefer

I havent been that impressed by Altmyer but he has another year or two to convince me. Keyes plays in 2A but he is vastly more talented in my eyes. Taylorsville runs a 6A offense as well they sling it around the yard with several different concepts so he is no mental slouch either.

[KOdawg1]

I havent been that impressed by Altmyer but he has another year or two to convince me. Keyes plays in 2A but he is vastly more talented in my eyes. Taylorsville runs a 6A offense as well they sling it around the yard with several different concepts so he is no mental slouch either.

Yeah, I really liked watching Keyes play, but I had to remember that he's facing 2A competition. Both are listed around 6' or 6'1", which is a little short for my liking, but we've seen short QBs like Trace McSorely succeed in Joe's offense in the past, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

[Pipedream]

5 page argument in 3 2 1

I'd hate to have to come to an internet message board and actually discuss things. For instance, who would wanna talk about recruiting in a recruiting thread. Just seems stupid. ***

[msstate7]

I'd hate to have to come to an internet message board and actually discuss things. For instance, who would wanna talk about recruiting in a recruiting thread. Just seems stupid. ***

I think some of us have vastly different ideas of what should be included in this thread. I'm open to anything recruiting wise... star ratings, # of stars needed to compete, and even other schools' classes. Some just want to know if billy joe is visiting this weekend, and if we'll get him.

[bulldawg28]

I think some of us have vastly different ideas of what should be included in this thread. I'm open to anything recruiting wise... star ratings, # of stars needed to compete, and even other schools' classes. Some just want to know if billy joe is visiting this weekend, and if we'll get him.

Billy Joe is hell on wheels! We need him!

[BrunswickDawg]

Billy Joe is hell on wheels! We need him!

Well he did shoot a man while robbing his castle. Then he had to chase down Bobby Sue, since she took the money and ran, and caught up to her the very next day. Must be a helluva running back, since he's still running today....

[sscjr1]

Well he did shoot a man while robbing his castle. Then he had to chase down Bobby Sue, since she took the money and ran, and caught up to her the very next day. Must be a helluva running back, since he's still running today....

Was that before or after he jumped off the Tallahatchie bridge?

[BrunswickDawg]

Was that before or after he jumped off the Tallahatchie bridge?

It was after. Which makes all the more impressive.

[bulldawg28]

It was after. Which makes all the more impressive.

Lol..well played!

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I think he goes out of state. He's that good

Wonder if that will ever change.

[msstate7]

Wonder if that will ever change.

Paging shotgun

[ShotgunDawg]

Wonder if that will ever change.

Not until our alumni in MS decide it’s unacceptable to lose these guys.

We’re literally relegated to 3rd or lower in the West until that happens

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'd hate to have to come to an internet message board and actually discuss things. For instance, who would wanna talk about recruiting in a recruiting thread. Just seems stupid. ***

Oh I understand that but to bring up a non existent little brother syndrome over recruiting I figured for sure it would start one. I am wrong so far

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not until our alumni in MS decide it’s unacceptable to lose these guys.

We’re literally relegated to 3rd or lower in the West until that happens

If only that was all it took.

[Jarius]

Not until our alumni in MS decide it’s unacceptable to lose these guys.

We’re literally relegated to 3rd or lower in the West until that happens

If boosters in Philadelphia, MS can't get a kid to go to either State or OM, it simply isn't in the cards. Hell they got CJ Johnson to go to Ole Miss after they ripped a lanyard off his ass and told him to sit TF down during the Egg Bowl. Some kids just want to go elsewhere, and if they are good enough our boosters won't be the only ones offering.

[msbulldog]

Well he did shoot a man while robbing his castle. Then he had to chase down Bobby Sue, since she took the money and ran, and caught up to her the very next day. Must be a helluva running back, since he's still running today....

Now that's funny! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BrunswickDawg again.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If boosters in Philadelphia, MS can't get a kid to go to either State or OM, it simply isn't in the cards. Hell they got CJ Johnson to go to Ole Miss after they ripped a lanyard off his ass and told him to sit TF down during the Egg Bowl. Some kids just want to go elsewhere, and if they are good enough our boosters won't be the only ones offering.

Jarquez is a great kid & a great player but the closest people in his life aren't MSU fans to say the least.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I know this is the 2020 recruiting thread but some big 2021 news should be going down later this week.

[yjnkdawg]

I know this is the 2020 recruiting thread but some big 2021 news should be going down later this week.



Anything you want to post on here is fine with me, IYOK. You always bring pertinent information on any post you make. I imagine that many others will agree.

[BankerDog]

We get Quincy Brown to go along with Smith with a good chance of getting Hartman..that will be our greatest WR haul in history. I love the way Joe is recruiting.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We get Quincy Brown to go along with Smith with a good chance of getting Hartman..that will be our greatest WR haul in history. I love the way Joe is recruiting.

Hartman?

[KOdawg1]

Hartman?
Think he means Harmon. I don't get a good vibe with him right now. Still a long ways until next year, but right now, I think Ole Miss has the edge.

[KOdawg1]

We get Quincy Brown to go along with Smith with a good chance of getting Hartman..that will be our greatest WR haul in history. I love the way Joe is recruiting.
Quincy Brown would be HUGE. Next year's WR class is legit, and we should get our fair share

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Think he means Harmon. I don't get a good vibe with him right now. Still a long ways until next year, but right now, I think Ole Miss has the edge.

Oh ok yea you're probably right. For the record I think Harmon ends up a Flex TE.

[KOdawg1]

Oh ok yea you're probably right. For the record I think Harmon ends up a Flex TE.

I do too.

I will say that if Jacob Peeler were to leave OM, our chances of getting Harmon would increase. Peeler is also from Kosciusko and is a hell of a recruiter. I wish we could get him on our staff.

[BankerDog]

Oh ok yea you're probably right. For the record I think Harmon ends up a Flex TE.

That?s the name. Next year?s in-state WR Corp is ridiculous

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That?s the name. Next year?s in-state WR Corp is ridiculous

Yes it is very good.

[Bothrops]

Quincy Brown would be HUGE. Next year's WR class is legit, and we should get our fair share

It would be, but what about LSU?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It would be, but what about LSU?

LSU can't sign every good player from Louisiana.

[KOdawg1]

It would be, but what about LSU?

They have a few guys higher on their board than Brown I believe.

Out of the top 10 2021 players in Louisiana, 6 are WRs. They can't take them all.

[jacksondawg]

Louisiana has a solid crop of wr as well especially in the New Orleans area

[msbulldog]

We're going too have a great crop of WR's too. LSU and others will be heavy in Louisiana and here. I think we have a good chance at Brown, since his good friend is our Quinten Torbor. We should be able to get him on campus a lot visiting his buddy.

[Turfdawg67]

Forbes won?t be settled until signing day.. no matter what happens between now and then.
Saying that I had rather be us then them right now.

Beer talking... NVMD

[Turfdawg67]

I know this is the 2020 recruiting thread but some big 2021 news should be going down later this week.

Post away!!

[BuckyIsAB****]

I do too.

I will say that if Jacob Peeler were to leave OM, our chances of getting Harmon would increase. Peeler is also from Kosciusko and is a hell of a recruiter. I wish we could get him on our staff.

You and me both.

[ZedFedder]

247 released their first rankings (top 100) of the 2022 class. Two MS athletes on there at #8 (Khamauri Rogers) and #81 (Jaheim Oatis). Also, Ty Simpson is #57 whose dad played here. I know we are recruiting him hard.

[BankerDog]

Shazz Preston also made that 2022 list. His brother, Shawn, plays here. Shawn will be big time eventually but Shazz is big time now.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Shazz Preston also made that 2022 list. His brother, Shawn, plays here. Shawn will be big time eventually but Shazz is big time now.

I expect Shazz to end up at LSU.

[NickoeWatersHedges]

Mckinnley Jackson released his top 5 and we aren't in it. I have followed his process from a distance but I wonder with our track record of DLineman why we cant even get him on campus? Lucedale is closer to Starkville than Oxford. Is there a reason for absolutely zero intrigue from him?

[Todd4State]

Mckinnley Jackson released his top 5 and we aren't in it. I have followed his process from a distance but I wonder with our track record of DLineman why we cant even get him on campus? Lucedale is closer to Starkville than Oxford. Is there a reason for absolutely zero intrigue from him?

I think it's because we have zero intrigue in him.

[1bigdawg]

Everyone asks about McKinley Jackson, but what about Josiah Hayes. Did either party ever have an interest?

[ShotgunDawg]

Mckinnley Jackson released his top 5 and we aren't in it. I have followed his process from a distance but I wonder with our track record of DLineman why we cant even get him on campus? Lucedale is closer to Starkville than Oxford. Is there a reason for absolutely zero intrigue from him?

He?s really backed up. Not worth the hassle. Our commit from Waynesboro is the best DL in Mississippi

I?m not totally sure he has a commitable offer from 4 of the 5 schools he listed

[msstate7]

He?s really backed up. Not worth the hassle. Our commit from Waynesboro is the best DL in Mississippi

I?m not totally sure he has a commitable offer from 4 of the 5 schools he listed

Ok. Sure he's rated #1 by 247 and composite in Mississippi, but sure, our guy is better even though he's #19 in state by 247 and #28 composite. Now you bitch about recruiting rankings, but throw em out the window here... which is it? Do you trust em or are you a homer?

[ShotgunDawg]

Ok. Sure he's rated #1 by 247 and composite in Mississippi, but sure, our guy is better even though he's #19 in state by 247 and #28 composite. Now you bitch about recruiting rankings, but throw em out the window here... which is it? Do you trust em or are you a homer?

I trust them more after their SR season. We’ll see where they both end up

[msstate7]

I trust them more after their SR season. We’ll see where they both end up

I haven't saw either guy play, so I'm not saying you're wrong. I just hate it when we want the 4-stars as rated, and complain when we don't get them, but also completely throw the ratings out sometimes.

[ShotgunDawg]

I haven't saw either guy play, so I'm not saying you're wrong. I just hate it when we want the 4-stars as rated, and complain when we don't get them, but also completely throw the ratings out sometimes.

Cooley is currently ranked an 85 and Jackson is a 94. My guess is that ends up around a 90 and Cooley an 89 or so

[msstate7]

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right

[KOdawg1]

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right
Jackson was ranked very high at first because he was simply bigger than everyone else he played against. Then, everyone caught up with him. He's also shown up to some camps out of shape, which has caused his ranking to drop. I'm not saying you're wrong about getting higher ranked guys, or that Cooley is better than him. But our staff has not really pushed for him. Do with that what you will

[BuckyIsAB****]

He?s really backed up. Not worth the hassle. Our commit from Waynesboro is the best DL in Mississippi

I?m not totally sure he has a commitable offer from 4 of the 5 schools he listed

He will got to Alabama or LSU and be stud. He is on a dead team right now and plays when he wants too. He is allowed to be lazy at GC. But when he decides he wants to play he is the best DL in the state. Extremely disruptive

[BuckyIsAB****]

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right

You know how I feel about recruiting rankings, they are extremely flawed BUT, I think this is a case where you will be right. I dont know enough about Cooley to say anything but Jackson is legit when he wants to play. If he was at a better program this wouldnt even be a discussion.

[Cooterpoot]

Jackson has some issues. Not saying he?s not talented. Cooley will be a NFL draft pick.

[BankerDog]

You know how I feel about recruiting rankings, they are extremely flawed BUT, I think this is a case where you will be right. I dont know enough about Cooley to say anything but Jackson is legit when he wants to play. If he was at a better program this wouldnt even be a discussion.

Quay and Nick James both had talent when they wanted to play but it was harder for the coaches to get them to play. He won?t be at Bama or LSU. His daddy blew those chances. He?ll go to Ole Miss and won?t live up to the billing that they?ll promote.

The only DL over the last ten years I wish we could?ve gotten that went to OM was Benito Jones. And we could?ve had him.

[msbulldog]

If our coaches wanted Jackson they would be recruiting him harder!

[Todd4State]

Quay and Nick James both had talent when they wanted to play but it was harder for the coaches to get them to play. He won?t be at Bama or LSU. His daddy blew those chances. He?ll go to Ole Miss and won?t live up to the billing that they?ll promote.

The only DL over the last ten years I wish we could?ve gotten that went to OM was Benito Jones. And we could?ve had him.

That's pretty much how it's going to go down.

[Todd4State]

Everyone asks about McKinley Jackson, but what about Josiah Hayes. Did either party ever have an interest?

I don't believe so. Hayes is better than Jackson FWIW.

I like our d-line class with Banks and Cooley. Especially when you pair them with the guys we got last year in Russell and Pickering.

[Todd4State]

For the record, I'll go with the higher rated composite guy every time. Sure, I'll be wrong more than once, but I think over the long haul, I'll be right

Over the long haul yes- but not in this situation.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

He will got to Alabama or LSU and be stud. He is on a dead team right now and plays when he wants too. He is allowed to be lazy at GC. But when he decides he wants to play he is the best DL in the state. Extremely disruptive

Hes not a take for Bama or LSU. I think it's OM or Auburn & A&M the dark horse.

[Bothrops]

Ok. Sure he's rated #1 by 247 and composite in Mississippi, but sure, our guy is better even though he's #19 in state by 247 and #28 composite.

You don't really believe that's legit do you?

[msstate7]

You don't really believe that's legit do you?

No idea. If a guy is #1 consensus player in a state, I have no reason to not believe it though

[Homedawg]

He will got to Alabama or LSU and be stud. He is on a dead team right now and plays when he wants too. He is allowed to be lazy at GC. But when he decides he wants to play he is the best DL in the state. Extremely disruptive

Bama won't take that guy. Way better options.

[Bothrops]

No idea. If a guy is #1 consensus player in a state, I have no reason to not believe it though

Cooley at #19 in the state was what I was referring to. Dandy Dozen player.

[msstate7]

Cooley at #19 in the state was what I was referring to. Dandy Dozen player.

Shotgun said Cooley was better than Jackson. That's why I mentioned rankings bc of the huge disparity. Sorta like saying we're (preseason 20ish) better than Clemson (preseason #1).

[MetEdDawg]

Wasn't Jackson #12 on the Dandy Dozen list? He's not the best player in the state. 24/7 has a lot of changes to make to the MS rankings over the next few months.

[msstate7]

Wasn't Jackson #12 on the Dandy Dozen list? He's not the best player in the state. 24/7 has a lot of changes to make to the MS rankings over the next few months.

Dandy dozen isn't a ranking of the 12... just the best 12 according to them

[Cooterpoot]

Jackson isnt the top player in MS and it’s a down year in MS. If it were a strong year in MS, he’d be middle of the pack anyway. He’s living on his ranking from a couple years ago when he was better than others. He hasn’t gotten better.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Quay and Nick James both had talent when they wanted to play but it was harder for the coaches to get them to play. He won?t be at Bama or LSU. His daddy blew those chances. He?ll go to Ole Miss and won?t live up to the billing that they?ll promote.

The only DL over the last ten years I wish we could?ve gotten that went to OM was Benito Jones. And we could?ve had him.

Im not plugged into his recruiting Im just saying its very obvious that he plays hard when he feels like it. If he was at Oak Grove or Petal instead of George County everyone would want him.

He may have issues, I know that at pre game while the rest of his team was warming up he came out of the locker room and got dressed on the sidelines when and how he felt like it, didnt go thru any pregame then stepped out and started at game time. I knew then he was probably an issue but he is a big time talent.

[HoopsDawg]

Im not plugged into his recruiting Im just saying its very obvious that he plays hard when he feels like it. If he was at Oak Grove or Petal instead of George County everyone would want him.

He may have issues, I know that at pre game while the rest of his team was warming up he came out of the locker room and got dressed on the sidelines when and how he felt like it, didnt go thru any pregame then stepped out and started at game time. I knew then he was probably an issue but he is a big time talent.

If that's his attitude, he will never make it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If that's his attitude, he will never make it.

He has been allowed to do that. That wont fly no matter where he goes in college bc he wont be the big fish anymore

[msu15]

Sounds like he’s Quay Evans 2.0

[BuckyIsAB****]

Sounds like he’s Quay Evans 2.0

In my opinion that is false

[BuckyIsAB****]

Jackson isnt the top player in MS and it’s a down year in MS. If it were a strong year in MS, he’d be middle of the pack anyway. He’s living on his ranking from a couple years ago when he was better than others. He hasn’t gotten better.

Down year compared to a historically great year maybe but there are plenty of good football players this cycle. I think the down year thing is coming from guys putting way too much stock into what the ''experts' on rivals and scout tell them

[Todd4State]

No idea. If a guy is #1 consensus player in a state, I have no reason to not believe it though

When literally everyone on multiple boards are all saying the same thing including some who actually have coached against the kid are saying the same things- I'm going to believe them over a web site that seems have no clue that Mississippi even has high school football 75% of the time.


The only reason Ole Miss is going after him is for his star ranking to try to build the perception that they are out recruiting us. If they're honest.


When 24/7 figures out that Mississippi has high school football around November and actually re-does their evaluations maybe then you'll "believe" it. As of now it simply fits your narrative until then.

[Todd4State]

Down year compared to a historically great year maybe but there are plenty of good football players this cycle. I think the down year thing is coming from guys putting way too much stock into what the ''experts' on rivals and scout tell them

I agree 100%. The thing about Mississippi is because these web sites don't pay much attention to the state other than the seniors outside of a few exceptions like a Cam Akers or a McKinley Jackson most of the better players are relatively "unknown" and it makes it appear as if most classes are "down" initially when in reality it's probably a typical year when the end of the year rolls around. See Chris Jones. See Cooley and Janari Dean this year. Both have a good chance to be four stars by the end of the year. Or should be. Among others.

[Jarius]

Sounds like he’s Quay Evans 2.0

Well he hasn't murdered anyone yet so he's got that going for him.

[msu15]

Well he hasn't murdered anyone yet so he's got that going for him.

Ouch

[sscjr1]

Quincy Brown is in the boat!!!!
https://247sports.com/player/quincy-brown-46055396/
Class of 2021

[msstate7]

Quincy Brown is in the boat!!!!
https://247sports.com/player/quincy-brown-46055396/

Damn, nice get joe

[bostondawg]

Quincy Brown is in the boat!!!!
https://247sports.com/player/quincy-brown-46055396/
Class of 2021

Damn, JoMo. Impressive.

[KOdawg1]

Huge. Keep stacking 4 star receivers, and eventually, they'll start panning out. Good job by Joe for addressing a weakness we've had in recent years.

Tulu Griffin - 4*
Malik Heath - 4*
Deion Smith - 4*
Quincy Brown - 4*

[Doggie_Style]

Quincy Brown is in the boat!!!!
https://247sports.com/player/quincy-brown-46055396/
Class of 2021

Hail Yea......I like the fact that Quincy is friends with Quinton Torber. Nice job by Moorhead.

[msbulldog]

CJM is light years ahead of CDM in recruiting! Man I can't believe we're snagging these kind of quality players.

[KOdawg1]

CJM is light years ahead of CDM in recruiting! Man I can't believe we're snagging these kind of quality players.
Argument this board has seen 150x begins in 5..4..3..2..1..

[1bigdawg]

CJM is light years ahead of CDM in recruiting! Man I can't believe we're snagging these kind of quality players.

JoeMO is a great recruiter, but we also have a wide receiver coach who is a great recruiter. We did not have that last year and it hurt us, no matter how good Joe is at recruiting. It is always a crap shoot when you hire a guy whose main experience is in the pros.

[PMDawg]

Quincy Brown is in the boat!!!!
https://247sports.com/player/quincy-brown-46055396/
Class of 2021

Sweet! In b4 "oh no he's from Louisiana, I hope he sticks!"

[Bothrops]

CJM is light years ahead of CDM in recruiting! Man I can't believe we're snagging these kind of quality players.

Just imagine what our WR classes would look like for both '20 and '21 if Dan was still here..

[Cooterpoot]

Sweet! In b4 "oh no he's from Louisiana, I hope he sticks!"

Well, he’s not a take for LSU, so we’re safe.

[msbulldog]

Well, he’s not a take for LSU, so we’re safe.

Coot I'm afraid the shrimp boat captain will go after him just to keep him from us. I'm sure he hasn't forgotten where his last game as HC for Mississippi was.

[msu15]

Coot I'm afraid the shrimp boat captain will go after him just to keep him from us. I'm sure he hasn't forgotten where his last game as HC for Mississippi was.

Hell he’s 0-3(about to be 0-4) as a head coach in Starkville

[Todd4State]

Just imagine what our WR classes would look like for both '20 and '21 if Dan was still here..

They would probably be so short we wouldn't even see them on the field.**

[Todd4State]

Coot I'm afraid the shrimp boat captain will go after him just to keep him from us. I'm sure he hasn't forgotten where his last game as HC for Mississippi was.

Meh. He ended up MUCH better after that loss. Getting out of Oxford was probably a blessing for him.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Sweet! In b4 "oh no he's from Louisiana, I hope he sticks!"

But man, he is from LA. Hope he sticks.**

[StateDawg44]

Meh. He ended up MUCH better after that loss. Getting out of Oxford was probably a blessing for him.

Probably? That's a no doubter.

[ZedFedder]

Montra Edwards committed to Missouri.

[KOdawg1]

Montra Edwards committed to Missouri.
Huh. I would've guessed Ole Miss, but good for him

[vv83]

So who is left for us this year? I figure we're about done but wondering if we're in it for any more big names we'd make room for. Hate we can't get any traction with Hayes

[msu15]

Montra Edwards committed to Missouri.

Wish we could've had room for him but that's the business

[Cooterpoot]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Edwards and Q. Brown both end up Juco.

[Doggie_Style]

Wouldn?t be surprised if Edwards and Q. Brown both end up Juco.

So yea Brown will exhaust his eligibility to play HS football after this, his JR season. It does sound like he has some classroom work to do to be eligible so what does he do in the fall of 2020? Someone mentioned 'prep school'.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So yea Brown will exhaust his eligibility to play HS football after this, his JR season. It does sound like he has some classroom work to do to be eligible so what does he do in the fall of 2020? Someone mentioned 'prep school'.

I think Prep school is the best option. The positive about him committing early is now he can get on the best plan possible to get him to Starkville as quickly as possible. Who knows though Bc Marquiss Spencer was in the same boat concerning age & he was able to work hard & get out with his correct class. If Brown puts his head down he can spend the next 2 years getting things in order.

[Irondawg]

So now that Paul is crystal balling Jaden Walley to the good guys, somebody give me the skinny on him.

[KOdawg1]

So now that Paul is crystal balling Jaden Walley to the good guys, somebody give me the skinny on him.
Plays QB for D'Iberville, but will be a WR or CB at the next level. Good athlete with legit offers from us, Auburn, and OM. Getting him would also be big bc his younger brother, Justin, will be a good player in the 2021 class. If Paul is CB'ing him to us, then that's a great sign bc he's usually pretty conservative with those.

[Commercecomet24]

So now that Paul is crystal balling Jaden Walley to the good guys, somebody give me the skinny on him.

Jaden played travel baseball a couple years for me. Great athlete, great ball skills, fine young man, kinda quiet and a hard worker who hustles. I have no doubt if he focused on baseball he would've been an elite center fielder. We're getting a quality player and quality person

[msu15]

We're getting a quality player and quality person

*Would be getting, unless you know something already :o

[Irondawg]

in the back of my mind I've been concerned with how many MS HS kids we are taking knowing that this wasn't considered a great class to begin with. I'm still skeptical of some of them, but went back and looked and we have hit on about 67% of our in-state HS signees turning into starting caliber players that are productive. I went back and looked at 2011-2016 and we were really successful at finding guys that could develop.

Thought I'd share in case that concern had run through anyone else's mind

[Ifyouonlyknew]

in the back of my mind I've been concerned with how many MS HS kids we are taking knowing that this wasn't considered a great class to begin with. I'm still skeptical of some of them, but went back and looked and we have hit on about 67% of our in-state HS signees turning into starting caliber players that are productive. I went back and looked at 2011-2016 and we were really successful at finding guys that could develop.

Thought I'd share in case that concern had run through anyone else's mind

The reason why this class wasn't considered great was because it was coming behind the best class on paper in MS history. This class lacks the headliners of years past but the depth is 1 of the best in recent memory. So far the state has 26 P5 commits with 4 of the top 20 players still available. Add 13 more G5 commits already. This class will have between 50-60 P5/G5 signees.

[Irondawg]

Thats impressive for sure

[Commercecomet24]

The reason why this class wasn't considered great was because it was coming behind the best class on paper in MS history. This class lacks the headliners of years past but the depth is 1 of the best in recent memory. So far the state has 26 P5 commits with 4 of the top 20 players still available. Add 13 more G5 commits already. This class will have between 50-60 P5/G5 signees.

Thats pretty spiffy right there.

[Commercecomet24]

*Would be getting, unless you know something already :o

We are in very good shape.

[MetEdDawg]

Montra Edwards decommits from Missouri. Lists us in his Top 6.

[KOdawg1]

Montra Edwards decommits from Missouri. Lists us in his Top 6.

He's likely OM/Juco bound

[timotheus]

How sure is he an OM lean? I was told he may have to go juco regardless. Info?

[BuckyIsAB****]

IYOK, I know we probably arent taking another RB in this class but if it gets down to it would we offer Kenyatta Harrell? He is better than Murphy and Walker right now

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, I know we probably arent taking another RB in this class but if it gets down to it would we offer Kenyatta Harrell? He is better than Murphy and Walker right now

No we're not & that's not exactly a glowing endorsement lol.

[BuckyIsAB****]

No we're not & that's not exactly a glowing endorsement lol.

I know it. I was just saying he would help our RB core more than they are right now

[msu15]

Montra Edwards decommits from Missouri. Lists us in his Top 6.


He’s not a take for us.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

IYOK, I know we probably arent taking another RB in this class but if it gets down to it would we offer Kenyatta Harrell? He is better than Murphy and Walker right now

Doesn't matter about Murphy and Walker. Witherspoon is 3rd now.

[KOdawg1]

Just looking at our commitment list, but I'm reminded how criminal it is that Janari Dean is only a mid-level 3 star. I've seen him play in person, and he's special, but even if you don't believe me, look at his offer list. Bama, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arky, OM... This kid should be rated a 90+ 4 star.

https://247sports.com/player/janari-dean-46046825/

[Lance Harbor]

What is the latest on LB recruiting? Depth Chart is light at best.

[vv83]

Doesn't matter about Murphy and Walker. Witherspoon is 3rd now.

He the real deal? Also, i thought i saw on here Walker wasn't going to make it. he's on the team now?

[msbulldog]

Walker has not finished an on-line or correspondence course yet, that's holding him up.

[Bothrops]

Walker has not finished an on-line or correspondence course yet, that's holding him up.

How did he get into Michigan? Something seems fishy with this situation.

[BrunswickDawg]

Walker has not finished an on-line or correspondence course yet, that's holding him up.

I think we have a tutor that can help with that. Oh, wait....

[msbulldog]

How did he get into Michigan? Something seems fishy with this situation.

This doesn't have anything to do with Michigan, the course he needs to finish is from the JUCO he attends.

[Cooterpoot]

Walker doesn’t matter. He’s not going to help us either way.

[Cowbell]

Walker doesn?t matter. He?s not going to help us either way.

How does Witherspoon look?

[KOdawg1]

How does Witherspoon look?
Great with the ball in his hands supposedly. It's times when he doesnt have the ball where he needs to work on

[BuckyIsAB****]

Just looking at our commitment list, but I'm reminded how criminal it is that Janari Dean is only a mid-level 3 star. I've seen him play in person, and he's special, but even if you don't believe me, look at his offer list. Bama, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arky, OM... This kid should be rated a 90+ 4 star.

https://247sports.com/player/janari-dean-46046825/

Best player to come out of SP in a while

[Cowbell]

Thanks. I knew he broke one in the last scrimmage.

[Bothrops]

This doesn't have anything to do with Michigan, the course he needs to finish is from the JUCO he attends.

Not now no, but trying to figure out how he got in up there, but can't get out of juco.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Not now no, but trying to figure out how he got in up there, but can't get out of juco.

He initially was committed to Ohio State, but they backed off due to academic and responsibility concerns. No clue how he ended up at Mich.

[msstate7]

We've been 1 spot behind OM for about a month, and now we're 1 spot ahead. Did some of ours get a bump up or did some of theirs get a bump down?

[Covercorner2]

We've been 1 spot behind OM for about a month, and now we're 1 spot ahead. Did some of ours get a bump up or did some of theirs get a bump down?

At first glance, it looks like Caleb Ducking may have gotten a bump?

[Bothrops]

We've been 1 spot behind OM for about a month, and now we're 1 spot ahead. Did some of ours get a bump up or did some of theirs get a bump down?

Forbes got a small bump up.

[HancockCountyDog]

Does anyone know how many Jucos we intend to sign in this class? We have 10 committed, which for me is just too many, unless they are can't miss Montez Sweat type guys.

I like when we sign around 4-6 JUCO guys, any more than that and things can get sideways in a hurry.

Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

[KOdawg1]

Does anyone know how many Jucos we intend to sign in this class? We have 10 committed, which for me is just too many, unless they are can't miss Montez Sweat type guys.

I like when we sign around 4-6 JUCO guys, any more than that and things can get sideways in a hurry.

Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
Patterson and Anderson-Butts most likely won't be apart of the class

[HancockCountyDog]

Patterson and Anderson-Butts most likely won't be apart of the class

That is what I figured, you can't sign 4 JUCO Wr's in one class. I think two at most, and I know Heath gets one of those spots.

[Irondawg]

And to clarify - Patterson would be a straight drop for not doing as expected, more off the field than on and Anderson-Butts is most likely not going to be able to get out of JUCO this year and be a 2021 prospect. Law of averages also states another one will fall off for some reason. Key is way out in California and if Dolcine gets a UF or FSU offer it could change things. Those are two that I'd feel are the least solid as of right now.

[vv83]

Forbes got a small bump up.

What?s the latest on him? Remember some chatter about holding onto him but it?s been quiet lately

[msbulldog]

What?s the latest on him? Remember some chatter about holding onto him but it?s been quiet lately

He was invited to our and TSUN's barbque's and came to ours with his parents. Still saying all the right things according to 247.

[Cooterpoot]

Key isn’t shaky at all. He really isn’t a Cali guy, so not a big connection there.

[Bothrops]

What?s the latest on him? Remember some chatter about holding onto him but it?s been quiet lately

So far, so good.

[Bothrops]

And to clarify - Patterson would be a straight drop for not doing as expected, more off the field than on and Anderson-Butts is most likely not going to be able to get out of JUCO this year and be a 2021 prospect. Law of averages also states another one will fall off for some reason. Key is way out in California and if Dolcine gets a UF or FSU offer it could change things. Those are two that I'd feel are the least solid as of right now.

Key and Dolcine are very talented. I definitely expect to sign Key.

[msstate7]

Saw Forbes tonight. He was good... caught a short pass and took it 50-55 yards for a td, int, and pick 6. Looked good.

[Bothrops]

Saw Forbes tonight. He was good... caught a short pass and took it 50-55 yards for a td, int, and pick 6. Looked good.

Yeah he's real good

[Irondawg]

Anybody watch Brandon and Starkville? Curious how our qb prospects looked side by side.

[Dawgfan77]

Anybody watch Brandon and Starkville? Curious how our qb prospects looked side by side.
Rodgers looked solid, first game he will get better. Brandon lacks a true RB. Starkville has some speed and some Athletes. The RB at Starkville was very good. The Starkville QB had a long way to go and was hurt on the last play of regulation. Brandon?s D is solid

[ShotgunDawg]

Please get a commitment from Ty Keyes ASAP. He's the best looking Mississippi QB I've seen in years.

[BankerDog]

Please get a commitment from Ty Keyes ASAP. He's the best looking Mississippi QB I've seen in years.

It doesn?t who we get next year..as long as Joe is here we?ll get Ty Simpson who will be one of the top 10 QBs in the country the following year. He?s the real deal. He is the future of the program.

[ShotgunDawg]

It doesn?t who we get next year..as long as Joe is here we?ll get Ty Simpson who will be one of the top 10 QBs in the country the following year. He?s the real deal. He is the future of the program.

Simpson is 2022 & Keyes is 2021. The two aren't related

[Cooterpoot]

I do not believe Simpson comes to State. Not based on what I’m hearing. Could change obviously but right now, I’m not expecting him.

[Commercecomet24]

Please get a commitment from Ty Keyes ASAP. He's the best looking Mississippi QB I've seen in years.

Don't count on Keyes. Although he's undecided at this point chances are slim we get him.

[KOdawg1]

Don't count on Keyes. Although he's undecided at this point chances are slim we get him.

Auburn?

[BankerDog]

Simpson is 2022 & Keyes is 2021. The two aren't related

Notice I said it doesn?t matter who we get, as long as Joe is here we will get Ty Simpson who will be the future. Meaning ?It doesn?t matter if we take Keyes or Luke, we get Ty Simpson the next year and they won?t play.?

[BankerDog]

I do not believe Simpson comes to State. Not based on what I’m hearing. Could change obviously but right now, I’m not expecting him.

Really? I heard last week Jason wants him here to play for Joe. Two years is a long way to go, but the kid is gonna be highly recruited.

[ShotgunDawg]

I do not believe Simpson comes to State. Not based on what I’m hearing. Could change obviously but right now, I’m not expecting him.

Pretty embarrassing if true. We seem to struggle with legacies more than we should

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't count on Keyes. Although he's undecided at this point chances are slim we get him.

UGH

[Cooterpoot]

Don't count on Keyes. Although he's undecided at this point chances are slim we get him.

States at the top for him. Unless we back off or screw up, he’ll sign with us.

[Cooterpoot]

Pretty embarrassing if true. We seem to struggle with legacies more than we should


Not really. Jason transferred out to USM if I remember correctly.....

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not really. Jason transferred out to USM if I remember correctly.....

He did. I do think we have a good shot at Simpson tho.

[Cooterpoot]

He did. I do think we have a good shot at Simpson tho.

We’re 2nd or 3rd right now. From what I’ve heard. But yeah, long way to go and if the offense takes off, I think we’re right there. Plus, some other stuff.

[Commercecomet24]

States at the top for him. Unless we back off or screw up, he?ll sign with us.

Not what I heard from him last night.

ETA I didn't mean to sound like a butthole saying it like that. You always bring good info.

[Cooterpoot]

Unless we make a decision otherwise, we’re good. And we can’t look like shit this year on offense either. AU already has their guy.

[Bothrops]

Sounds like Kareem Walker may have a decent chance of getting here this week. His work is finally finished and he has been academically cleared to transfer. I expect the NCAA will still try to stand in his way as he's heading out the door.

[Doggie_Style]

Sounds like Kareem Walker may have a decent chance of getting here this week. His work is finally finished and he has been academically cleared to transfer. I expect the NCAA will still try to stand in his way as he's heading out the door.

Who cares....he’s unlikely to see the field this year and probably a waste of a scholarship

[msstate7]

Is there any update on Forbes? Is he solid or is OM still a big threat? The kid was quite impressive last Friday night... I want em

[Ari Gold]

Is there any update on Forbes? Is he solid or is OM still a big threat? The kid was quite impressive last Friday night... I want em

It’s going to be a battle until ink hits the paper...But I wouldn’t trade places with OM right now when it comes to him.