THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

[jumbo]

All 33 aren't from Nashville.


True, but the event was in Nashville. So his number was 33rd.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He didn't test that well in Nashville.

Who cares. The kid can play. It may not be WR in the SEC but he is a SEC football player somewhere. Probably on defense. I could care less about Sparq ratings

[HoopsDawg]

Who cares. The kid can play. It may not be WR in the SEC but he is a SEC football player somewhere. Probably on defense. I could care less about Sparq ratings

Things still not looking good on Stevens according to your sources? No offense but its hard to take your posts seriously.

[Scared_Hitless]

Gotta make a run at the KState WR that just entered the portal

[msstate7]

Gotta make a run at the KState WR that just entered the portal

Graduate?

[HoopsDawg]

Gotta make a run at the KState WR that just entered the portal

Yep. For sure.

[KOdawg1]

Gotta make a run at the KState WR that just entered the portal

Throw the bank at him

[msu15]

Graduate?

Yep, senior. Played with Chauncey Rivers

[msstate7]

Yep, senior. Played with Chauncey Rivers

Excellent. They'd block him for sure if not since we on schedule

[HoopsDawg]

Throw the bank at him

I'll chip in.

[msstate7]

I'll chip in.

https://i.postimg.cc/02bxW0XR/14-C43-E22-1755-42-A1-9-AA0-5-C9-CA41-A3186.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[BuckyIsAB****]

Things still not looking good on Stevens according to your sources? No offense but its hard to take your posts seriously.

Offense intended I clearly said a few days later it was looking better....and you even responded to it if my memory serves right. Why you always on my case man? Drink a beer or something. I couldnt care less your opinion Hoops. Take whatever you want from my posts I wont lose a wink of sleep.

[HoopsDawg]

Offense intended I clearly said a few days later it was looking better....and you even responded to it if my memory serves right. Why you always on my case man? Drink a beer or something. I couldnt care less your opinion Hoops. Take whatever you want from my posts I wont lose a wink of sleep.

I'll ease up on you. Just try and stop posting like you have info or sources.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'll ease up on you. Just try and stop posting like you have info or sources.

Yea Im gonna post what I want and you can like it or not. Not gonna turn the recruiting thread into a pissing match over sources with you

[HoopsDawg]

IYOK, do we have any shot with Zuber?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

IYOK, do we have any shot with Zuber?

I'm sure we'll check on him. Word is he's been suspended at K St over a drug test & there was a high chance he was going to be suspended for the year if he had stayed. Texas is considered the early favorite due to having a former coach there.

[vv83]

I'm sure we'll check on him. Word is he's been suspended at K St over a drug test & there was a high chance he was going to be suspended for the year if he had stayed. Texas is considered the early favorite due to having a former coach there.

Would Texas take him? I just checked out his stats and while solid, doesn't seem like a game changer

[msstate7]

Would Texas take him? I just checked out his stats and while solid, doesn't seem like a game changer

If they have a spot, why not? Won't affect next year

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Would Texas take him? I just checked out his stats and while solid, doesn't seem like a game changer

That's exactly what we need then....???? Smh

[Tripp McNeely]

P’nut/iyok...you’re making some CBs man...spill the beans

[chef dixon]

Bell ringing

[hacker]

P’nut/iyok...you’re making some CBs man...spill the beans

Who did he CB? Bell ringin

[hacker]

I see. Threatt/Edwards

[msbulldog]

Tamarion McDonald

[msstate7]

Tamarion McDonald

Going by 247, he shows om, LSU, and Kentucky offers

[msbulldog]

Great get from the Memphis area, where we need to get in and get Mississippi out of. Chris Marve has a presence there.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Jr Highlights

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/10058660/5c069803041d8c084c0eeeba

[chef dixon]

Pretty solid LB duo in this class it appears

[KOdawg1]

What are our chances with the Horn Lake guys? Josaih Hayes and Jakivuan Brown are good players, but Horn Lake is an Ole Miss pipeline (besides last year).

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What are our chances with the Horn Lake guys? Josaih Hayes and Jakivuan Brown are good players, but Horn Lake is an Ole Miss pipeline (besides last year).

Better shot with Brown than Hayes imo. Hayes doesn't do a lot of talking hard to get a read. Brown Final 3 are MSU LSU & OM.

[msu15]

We are in the mix with Zuber and he will be visiting.

[msstate7]

We are in the mix with Zuber and he will be visiting.

This would be huge. Good luck, joe

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We are in the mix with Zuber and he will be visiting.

I'm tempted to say we may be the favorite.

[msu15]

I'm tempted to say we may be the favorite.

I like the sound of that!

[msstate7]

I'm tempted to say we may be the favorite.

Maybe joe can get him. Then hopefully Stevens and Zuber have a big year and we can become a place transfers look at (I.e. lesser Texas tech basketball).

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Maybe joe can get him. Then hopefully Stevens and Zuber have a big year and we can become a place transfers look at (I.e. lesser Texas tech basketball).

We need the offense to show it's potential because this staff is so much more relatable in recruiting. This staff with a proven offense to sell could be scary.

[Commercecomet24]

We need the offense to show it's potential because this staff is so much more relatable in recruiting. This staff with a proven offense to sell could be scary.

Yep!

[BuckyIsAB****]

We need the offense to show it's potential because this staff is so much more relatable in recruiting. This staff with a proven offense to sell could be scary.

If Stevens can bridge the gap for one year we are going to be able to do exactly what we want on offense with Rogers. His offense right now is near an exact copy of Moorhead's.

[bulldawg28]

If Stevens can bridge the gap for one year we are going to be able to do exactly what we want on offense with Rogers. His offense right now is near an exact copy of Moorhead's.

I doubt it is an exact copy. The reads are different and what he ran was a watered down version.

[Uncle Ruckus]

You are the biggest Brandon fanboy I’ve ever come across

[Jarius]

If Stevens can bridge the gap for one year we are going to be able to do exactly what we want on offense with Rogers. His offense right now is near an exact copy of Moorhead's.

I like Rogers but the same thing was said about Shrader and he is still trying to pick up the college game. It's pretty hard to just step in as a true freshman and be ok with the speed of the game. I would be surprised if Shrader or Mayden were not the guy next year. My bet is on Shrader.

[msstate7]

I like Rogers but the same thing was said about Shrader and he is still trying to pick up the college game. It's pretty hard to just step in as a true freshman and be ok with the speed of the game. I would be surprised if Shrader or Mayden were not the guy next year. My bet is on Shrader.

Key was gonna be the next great one for us too. 5-star QBs work out at around 50% of the time, so it's nuts to just assume a 3-star is a sure thing. QBs are hard to project

[Doggie_Style]

I like Rogers but the same thing was said about Shrader and he is still trying to pick up the college game. It's pretty hard to just step in as a true freshman and be ok with the speed of the game. I would be surprised if Shrader or Mayden were not the guy next year. My bet is on Shrader.

^^^^this....exactly

[MetEdDawg]

Rodney Groce Jr put us in his top 8. Any chance at him? He's from Alabama and has offers from both Bama and Auburn.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Rodney Groce Jr put us in his top 8. Any chance at him? He's from Alabama and has offers from both Bama and Auburn.

He's visited a couple times but going to be very tough pull.

[msstate7]

He's visited a couple times but going to be very tough pull.

Damn near impossible if they both truly want him. It would be hard for anyone not named Georgia or Clemson to pull that off

[BuckyIsAB****]

I doubt it is an exact copy. The reads are different and what he ran was a watered down version.

Its what he wants to do. The reads are very similar on every play. Its one guy here or there and the ball can go a few different places. You could call 3 straight runs and they could all end up being passes. Fitzgerald struggled with that

[BuckyIsAB****]

I like Rogers but the same thing was said about Shrader and he is still trying to pick up the college game. It's pretty hard to just step in as a true freshman and be ok with the speed of the game. I would be surprised if Shrader or Mayden were not the guy next year. My bet is on Shrader.

Shrader isnt the passer Rogers is right now. He is a lot better athlete though and I dont know a lot about him personally but Rogers intangibles are top notch as well.

Moorhead needs a thrower that can run, Im afraid Shrader is a runner that can throw but thats just my opinion. Shrader is better than Fitz was when he first got here I will say that. Rogers wont struggle with the maturity and mental part on or off the field

[bulldawg28]

Its what he wants to do. The reads are very similar on every play. Its one guy here or there and the ball can go a few different places. You could call 3 straight runs and they could all end up being passes. Fitzgerald struggled with that

It's not that simple bro.

[BuckyIsAB****]

You are the biggest Brandon fanboy I’ve ever come across

Everybody loves a winner

[BuckyIsAB****]

It's not that simple bro.

Yea..it pretty much is. Some air raid principles mixed in there and thats pretty much it

[BuckyIsAB****]

Key was gonna be the next great one for us too. 5-star QBs work out at around 50% of the time, so it's nuts to just assume a 3-star is a sure thing. QBs are hard to project

Key would have been the next one had Mullen stayed. Its just not a good fit for him now. If Moorhead stays this offense is made for Rogers. Again, the star rating system is flawed. I've said it 100 times and I understand if some people dont have the time to go watch the kids play but Im 99 percent sure that most of you wouldnt let somebody else form your opinion on something without ever seeing it like some of us do with the star ratings on these kids. From some ''expert'' that gets paid to tell you what you want to hear for the most part

[msstate7]

Key would have been the next one had Mullen stayed. Its just not a good fit for him now. If Moorhead stays this offense is made for Rogers. Again, the star rating system is flawed. I've said it 100 times and I understand if some people dont have the time to go watch the kids play but Im 99 percent sure that most of you wouldnt let somebody else form your opinion on something without ever seeing it like some of us do with the star ratings on these kids. From some ''expert'' that gets paid to tell you what you want to hear for the most part

I just think you're immersed in rankin co football, and you let it cloud your judgment. I have no doubts that Rogers is a good player, but i think you're extremely biased

[msu15]

Everybody loves a winner

Uhhhh what?

[BankerDog]

Everybody loves a winner

What exactly has Brandon won? Pearl is the team in that county right now and that?s tough for me to say when I went to the other 6A school in the county.

[msu15]

What exactly has Brandon won? Pearl is the team in that county right now and that?s tough for me to say when I went to the other 6A school in the county.

Exactly, shit had me scratching my head lol. Brandon hasn't won jack

[fader2103]

I do think Rogers is a capable QB but no he is not a better passer than Schrader. And I have seen Rogers' play several times (more than 10). He does get frustrated a lot. I want to see him without two good HS WRs. Also Brandon hasn't won anything, they choke during the playoffs every year. The last thing is I know for a fact if Ole Miss offers Rogers he will be a rebel.

[sscjr1]

I do think Rogers is a capable QB but no he is not a better passer than Schrader. And I have seen Rogers' play several times (more than 10). He does get frustrated a lot. I want to see him without two good HS WRs. Also Brandon hasn't won anything, they choke during the playoffs every year. The last thing is I know for a fact if Ole Miss offers Rogers he will be a rebel.
I don?t think anyone knows anything for a fact when it comes to recruiting

[bulldawg28]

Yea..it pretty much is. Some air raid principles mixed in there and thats pretty much it

If you're describing Brandon's offense I agree.

[timotheus]

so fader thinks a kid who loves to sling it will end up at a school who currently has a more run oriented type OC. got it , and its a fact , what he said

[msu15]

I do think Rogers is a capable QB but no he is not a better passer than Schrader. And I have seen Rogers' play several times (more than 10). He does get frustrated a lot. I want to see him without two good HS WRs. Also Brandon hasn't won anything, they choke during the playoffs every year. The last thing is I know for a fact if Ole Miss offers Rogers he will be a rebel.

Wager?

[msbulldog]

I do think Rogers is a capable QB but no he is not a better passer than Schrader. And I have seen Rogers' play several times (more than 10). He does get frustrated a lot. I want to see him without two good HS WRs. Also Brandon hasn't won anything, they choke during the playoffs every year. The last thing is I know for a fact if Ole Miss offers Rogers he will be a rebel.

Are you people grown-ups? Please layoff these 16 year old kids!

[BuckyIsAB****]

What exactly has Brandon won? Pearl is the team in that county right now and that?s tough for me to say when I went to the other 6A school in the county.

Not to take over the thread but Brandon and Pearl played twice in 2018 and Brandon won both.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Exactly, shit had me scratching my head lol. Brandon hasn't won jack

Madison Central, Pearl (twice), NWR, would all disagree with you considering Brandon beat them all

[BuckyIsAB****]

Wager?

Let him name his price you will win it 100 percent

[Hambone]

So Hadad mentioned a potential bell ringing Friday before the baseball game. Was he just being comical about so many things happening at one time or are we expecting a commit this weekend?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So Hadad mentioned a potential bell ringing Friday before the baseball game. Was he just being comical about so many things happening at one time or are we expecting a commit this weekend?

There are a few guys talking about it but nobody has 100% confirmed they're committing.

[Jarius]

Shrader isnt the passer Rogers is right now. He is a lot better athlete though and I dont know a lot about him personally but Rogers intangibles are top notch as well.

Moorhead needs a thrower that can run, Im afraid Shrader is a runner that can throw but thats just my opinion. Shrader is better than Fitz was when he first got here I will say that. Rogers wont struggle with the maturity and mental part on or off the field

Shrader has been Moorhead's hand picked guy for 3 years dating back to Penn State. I think he is exactly what Moorhead wants and I think if you listen to Moorhead speak at private events you can tell how much he can't wait for Shrader to be his guy. Just my feeling. I do really like Rogers though. I love the way he competes and he throws a great ball.

[Ari Gold]

I think we get one maybe two commits for the 2020 class. And wouldn’t be shocked if a certain WR transfer pulls the trigger before to long...

[Hambone]

That’s what I like to hear, ARI!

[BeardoMSU]

I think we get one maybe two commits for the 2020 class. And wouldn’t be shocked if a certain WR transfer pulls the trigger before to long...

Sweet.

[ejdallas322]

Does anybody have a list of the players attending the top dawg camp tomorrow? That’s where our commitment ma will come from, besides the transfer visiting. Also since I’m around Rakim Jarretts age Iv been in contact with him, and he says he’s been waiting eagerly for Mississippi State coaches to talk to him about possibly playing at State. He’s committed to LSU right now but imagine pulling this talented kid in for the receiving core. Plus his girlfriend will be playing basketball at State as well.

[TheLilCheese]

Ari called it, looks like we got Zuber :D

[vv83]

No mention of Cameron Threatt?

[KOdawg1]

No mention of Cameron Threatt?
I think there was a thread somewhere. Good player with good offers. Great job by the staff

[Ari Gold]

No mention of Cameron Threatt?

Keep building and getting depth with that D... solid get
Welcome to the Fam CT..

[ShotgunDawg]

Looks like Ealy will be playing for Ole Miss. I wonder if he would've signed with Ole Miss if he actually knew he'd end up playing college football?

Had a terrible SR baseball season and fell down draft boards.

[msstate7]

Looks like Ealy will be playing for Ole Miss. I wonder if he would've signed with Ole Miss if he actually knew he'd end up playing college football?

Had a terrible SR baseball season and fell down draft boards.

If they have any semblance of an oline, they'll be a good running team... Phillips and ealy is a damn good 1-2

[Irondawg]

Still makes me sick they got Ealy. I thought he was a for sure MLB player, but I didn't want any chance he landed there as I think he's a special football player as well.

He could still get a decent draft slot and take the money though

[Bothrops]

Early will play football.

[msu15]

If they have any semblance of an oline, they'll be a good running team... Phillips and ealy is a damn good 1-2

I think their o line is going to be trash after what they lost last season, but I agree.

[NCDawg]

And if you questioned whether or not he may sign with Ole Miss instead of us, several posters on here stated "no doubt about it-he's signing a baseball contract", "done deal" and seemed to imply you were stupid for even asking the question.

[timotheus]

baseball wise, he's not nearly as good senquez gholston was. His only choice is the gridiron

[vv83]

baseball wise, he's not nearly as good senquez gholston was. His only choice is the gridiron

Why is that the narrative now but when we were recruiting him there was zero chance he would play football?

[KOdawg1]

Ealy will play both football and baseball at Ole Miss and be good at both. Anyone who says different is just mad that he went to OM in the first place. Yes, he was probably leaning towards pro baseball a year ago, but this spring dropped his stock.

He could've come to MSU where he'd have an O-Line to run behind, a competitive football team, and a baseball team that challenges for Omaha every year. But he didn't, so he'll waste 3-4 years struggling to get 6 wins in football and choking in the postseason in baseball.

[timotheus]

I figure he won't last long with Bianco after he figures out that he's only a late game pinch runner or gets to play CF the last inning. For these reasons, I say he will be football only there.

[KOdawg1]

I figure he won't last long with Bianco after he figures out that he's only a late game pinch runner or gets to play CF the last inning. For these reasons, I say he will be football only there.

Nah, he'll have the chance to start early because they lose a lot this year

[Homedawg]

Plumlee has a better chance to start at baseball their next year than Ealy does. He's still got holes in his swing that will get eaten alive on the sec. and no Plumlee won't start either. Just he's ahead of Ealy hitting wise. Not tools.

[Hambone]

What does Ealy have to do with the 2020 recruiting class?

[Ari Gold]

What does Ealy have to do with the 2020 recruiting class?

Exactly... enough of the Ealy talk.
Saying that ... I will take Marks Over Ealy all day everyday...

[msbulldog]

Damn right.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Plumlee has a better chance to start at baseball their next year than Ealy does. He's still got holes in his swing that will get eaten alive on the sec. and no Plumlee won't start either. Just he's ahead of Ealy hitting wise. Not tools.

I think Plumlee has a legit shot at being OM's starting QB by mid season. The kid from TX aint great and Corral appears to be a ticking time bomb.

[Todd4State]

Plumlee has a better chance to start at baseball their next year than Ealy does. He's still got holes in his swing that will get eaten alive on the sec. and no Plumlee won't start either. Just he's ahead of Ealy hitting wise. Not tools.

This.

[Todd4State]

How many are we going to sign in our 2020 class this year?

It seems like we are going after a ton of high school and JUCO guys. By that I mean like could we potentially oversign this year?

[Jarius]

I think Plumlee has a legit shot at being OM's starting QB by mid season. The kid from TX aint great and Corral appears to be a ticking time bomb.

Plumlee has already been told that he has a package put in for him this year. Would not surprise me at all. They are now a Mullen offense. The receivers that signed with them this year are idiots.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

How many are we going to sign in our 2020 class this year?

It seems like we are going after a ton of high school and JUCO guys. By that I mean like could we potentially oversign this year?

I doubt we sign a full 25. JoeMo is going to always try to keep a couple scholarships free for grad transfers. I'd say anywhere between 21-23.

[BrunswickDawg]

I doubt we sign a full 25. JoeMo is going to always try to keep a couple scholarships free for grad transfers. I'd say anywhere between 21-23.

I think that is a good strategy in today's "free agent" era. As much as everyone bitched about us undersigning this past year - it left us 4 slots that we filled with guys at 4 positions of need (QB, WR, DT, and P) - and those guys could be the collective difference giving us 2-3 more wins if it works out. I also like Joe taking advantage of the JUCO market. We all know that our recruiting footprint doesn't always provide the players we need, at the positions we need, when we actually need them. And when you are competing against the school we recruit against, it's just that much harder. however - that strategy has to be coupled with excellent player evaluation. It makes our margin on "misses" very thin.

Personally, I think after the 2020 class, we see Joe move away from being JUCO heavy. Our recruiting was so spotty over the past few years - coupled with that huge JUCO class in '16, he was left a real unbalanced roster that has had to be dealt with. JUCO was about the only way to balance that back out.

[Ari Gold]

I think that is a good strategy in today's "free agent" era. As much as everyone bitched about us undersigning this past year - it left us 4 slots that we filled with guys at 4 positions of need (QB, WR, DT, and P) - and those guys could be the collective difference giving us 2-3 more wins if it works out. I also like Joe taking advantage of the JUCO market. We all know that our recruiting footprint doesn't always provide the players we need, at the positions we need, when we actually need them. And when you are competing against the school we recruit against, it's just that much harder. however - that strategy has to be coupled with excellent player evaluation. It makes our margin on "misses" very thin.

Personally, I think after the 2020 class, we see Joe move away from being JUCO heavy. Our recruiting was so spotty over the past few years - coupled with that huge JUCO class in '16, he was left a real unbalanced roster that has had to be dealt with. JUCO was about the only way to balance that back out.

We will keep hammering the jucos if the right guys are there. To many good players come to the state via juco route.
With this years class I actually think it’s going to be bigger because we may see a handful of underclassmen test the nfl draft after the year.

[BrunswickDawg]

We will keep hammering the jucos if the right guys are there. To many good players come to the state via juco route.
With this years class I actually think it’s going to be bigger because we may see a handful of underclassmen test the nfl draft after the year.

I don't disagree with getting JUCO's at all - it's definitely something that we should be taking advantage of. I don't think Dan did enough of it until he was in a real bind in '17. 9 JUCO guys in one class is a ton. In his defense - they were all very talented and it panned out - especially since a number of those guys redshirted giving us an extra year. But, it can also leave you in a recruiting hole 2-3 years later when HS kids you could have signed aren't there. It's a delicate balance. I think somewhere in the 3-5 range every year is an ideal balance.

[Doggie_Style]

Just saw that Ducking commited....assuming he’s replacing either Taylor or Heath. Anybody like this move?

[msstate7]

Just saw that Ducking commited....assuming he’s replacing either Taylor or Heath. Anybody like this move?

No idea. He's a big guy, but no offers. Hopefully we got him on his way up

[Goldendawg]

Just saw that Ducking commited....assuming he’s replacing either Taylor or Heath. Anybody like this move?

Nice to see some info about a future State player, rather an UM player on this thread. Hail State!

[msbulldog]

Heard good things about this kids raw athletic ability, he definitely has the size.

[Doggie_Style]

No idea. He's a big guy, but no offers. Hopefully we got him on his way up

You gotta like the 6?5? aspect...he needs to bulk up to 200+ though.... Joe must have really liked his camp showing

[Todd4State]

Just saw that Ducking commited....assuming he’s replacing either Taylor or Heath. Anybody like this move?

6'5" and runs a 4.5 40. I'm good with it.

[Ari Gold]

Heath is still fine..

[Hambone]

He may be in good health but what about Heath? Sorry, just had to Ari haha

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Just saw that Ducking commited....assuming he’s replacing either Taylor or Heath. Anybody like this move?

We'd still take both Heath & Taylor.

[Doggie_Style]

We'd still take both Heath & Taylor.

OK....but would we take Heath, Taylor and Patterson or are we writing off Patterson ?

[KOdawg1]

OK....but would we take Heath, Taylor and Patterson or are we writing off Patterson ?

I don't think Patterson will be apart of the class

[Todd4State]

Looks like we just added Jakhaviuan Brown from Horn Lake.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looks like we just added Jakhaviuan Brown from Horn Lake.

Huge pickup. He's going to be a 4* very shortly.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I don't think Patterson will be apart of the class

Correct

[Todd4State]

Huge pickup. He's going to be a 4* very shortly.

I like it for sure even if he stays a three star.

Who do you think will receive a fourth star out of our current commits?

[Cooterpoot]

Ducking is a reach. Brown is big time. We keep grabbing up defensive talent and struggle with top end WR talent.

[Ari Gold]

Ducking is a reach. Brown is big time. We keep grabbing up defensive talent and struggle with top end WR talent.

Heath will be a dog.
And Let’s give Joe and this staff a chance with some of these WR and see just how good they may be. With a QB and a little time to teach them to actually play WR in college not 7 on 7...

[Ari Gold]

Huge pickup. He's going to be a 4* very shortly.

Yes a huge get here... And now let’s close out the OM back yard with Dean next...

[KOdawg1]

Wow, I would've guessed Brown was OM bound. That's huge if we can hold onto him

[HoopsDawg]

Correct

Who are our WR commits and who are our targets? How many total do u think we sign?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Who are our WR commits and who are our targets? How many total do u think we sign?

Commits - Caleb Ducking

Targets - Malik Heath Kundarrius Taylor Tulu Griffin Michael Pettway Alex Adams E. Jai Mason

4 Total - 2 Juco 2 HS

[Irondawg]

Are you considering Butts a safety and not a WR?

Also what are you thoughts on Ducking? Good size and the staff just got done working him out, but on his Hudl video I saw he just looked really slow off the line. Not sure what the think about this one at the moment.

[Goldendawg]

How about Anderson-Butts from the Iowa JC? He's a commit.

[KOdawg1]

How about Anderson-Butts from the Iowa JC? He's a commit.

He'll be a safety I believe. IYOK can hopefully verify

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Are you considering Butts a safety and not a WR?

Also what are you thoughts on Ducking? Good size and the staff just got done working him out, but on his Hudl video I saw he just looked really slow off the line. Not sure what the think about this one at the moment.

Yea I think Butts is a safety.

I don't have enough info on Ducking to give an opinion.

[msbulldog]

Picking up Brown is really going to PO those boys over at the spirit. They just got a commitment out of Josiah Coatney, Browns teammate and they were counting Brown as their next pick-up. LOL hate it for 'em!

[ShotgunDawg]

Picking up Brown is really going to PO those boys over at the spirit. They just got a commitment out of Josiah Coatney, Browns teammate and they were counting Brown as their next pick-up. LOL hate it for 'em!

Josiah Coatney?

Pretty sure he's already played for Ole Miss

[msbulldog]

My bad Josiah Hayes, too early this morning.

[msu15]

Loved this quote from Ducking, "They are looking to completely retool the WR position". Hopefully the days of the 5'8 wideouts are gone!

[Ari Gold]

Yea I think Butts is a safety.

I don't have enough info on Ducking to give an opinion.

My guess on Ducking is he redshirts , depending on how the WR class shakes out. That’s a pure guess..

[Doggie_Style]

My guess on Ducking is he redshirts , depending on how the WR class shakes out. That?s a pure guess..

Only way he doesn't redshirt is if he is a December grad and works his ass off in the spring and summer to learn how to run routes and learn the offense.....I'd say 90% chance he redshirts

[Johnson85]

6'5" and runs a 4.5 40. I'm good with it.

Yup. I'm assuming coming from a small delta school and then a JUCO school running a triple option, we don't really know how he'll play on the field and that he'll have to redshirt regardless in order to learn the position some. But if he shows any hands at all, that seems like a fine risk for the potential reward.

[Lance Harbor]

Unless Brown is the placed "flip" that UM loves so much.

[msu15]

Unless Brown is the placed "flip" that UM loves so much.

There it is

[HoopsDawg]

Commits - Caleb Ducking

Targets - Malik Heath Kundarrius Taylor Tulu Griffin Michael Pettway Alex Adams E. Jai Mason

4 Total - 2 Juco 2 HS

Thanks. Gotta say, I was hoping for Taylor.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Correct

He cant stay out of trouble. I didnt ever think he would make it to Starkville. Good talent, extremely fast but just cant make good decisions

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

Commits - Caleb Ducking

Targets - Malik Heath Kundarrius Taylor Tulu Griffin Michael Pettway Alex Adams E. Jai Mason

4 Total - 2 Juco 2 HS

I'll take Ducking, Heath, Taylor & Tulu and Alex Adams...would be an incredible haul. "Red" Patterson prob won't make it to campus. I'm pulling for him though!

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Thanks. Gotta say, I was hoping for Taylor.

I just don't think Taylor & Heath go to the same college. Kind of like a Kylin & Cam Akers deal. I'd love to be wrong but I'm not holding out a lot of hope on it.

[chef dixon]

I like how Brown quoted his commitment, he said he is furthering his education and career at MSU. He did not say he is just committing. I know it does not mean much but it shows another level of maturity to me.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

I don't think Patterson will be apart of the class

I think you intended to say the opposite of what you just said.

[Doggie_Style]

He cant stay out of trouble. I didnt ever think he would make it to Starkville. Good talent, extremely fast but just cant make good decisions

We would likely still take Patterson but he will have to meet certain requirements, have a good camp showing and a successful, clean season at Hinds. He clearly has two strikes already.

[KOdawg1]

I think you intended to say the opposite of what you just said.

Thanks Mr. English Teacher**

Lol, you are correct. I don't think Patterson will be included in the class. There we go.

[chef dixon]

Seems like we have a lot of commits early. How many are we taking this year?

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Thanks Mr. English Teacher**

Lol, you are correct. I don't think Patterson will be included in the class. There we go.

Your welcome (see what I did there)

[gravedigger]

I don?t think anyone knows anything for a fact when it comes to recruiting

Close. But not exactly true. Some find out things earlier than others.

[Goldendawg]

How hard did we recruit Kahlil Benson from Southaven? He just committed UM.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

How hard did we recruit Kahlil Benson from Southaven? He just committed UM.

He was a take for us. Not back breaking but he was a take.

[Goldendawg]

He was a take for us. Not back breaking but he was a take.

They now have #'s 2, 7, 9, 13, 24, and 26 from the Ms. HS ratings on 24/7. Gue$$ they're still promising immediate playing time.

[msstate7]

They now have #'s 2, 7, 9, 13, 24, and 26 from the Ms. HS ratings on 24/7. Gue$$ they're still promising immediate playing time.

24th and 26th ranked players in Mississippi doesn't sound very good for them. For their sakes, I hope those rankings are wrong

[Goldendawg]

24th and 26th ranked players in Mississippi doesn't sound very good for them. For their sakes, I hope those rankings are wrong

Well, we currently have commits from #'s 6, 14, 16, 18, and 19 from the MS. HS rankings to date. Looks like 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 15, 17, & 20 are still available.

[msbulldog]

We're doing about the same that we usually do.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

They now have #'s 2, 7, 9, 13, 24, and 26 from the Ms. HS ratings on 24/7. Gue$$ they're still promising immediate playing time.

Some kids are going to want to go to OM esp instate. No matter how bad MSU or OM get they're each going to still get some quality instate kids. See MSU with Croom.

[Homedawg]

Some kids are going to want to go to OM esp instate. No matter how bad MSU or OM get they're each going to still get some quality instate kids. See MSU with Croom.

True. Very true. But we have to get more of the swing guys if we are ever going to get to a higher level. We aren't going to kill it out of state as a rule. I'm. It complaining. Point out a fact. And I think we've done that on a couple so far. But need to up the percentage.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

True. Very true. But we have to get more of the swing guys if we are ever going to get to a higher level. We aren't going to kill it out of state as a rule. I'm. It complaining. Point out a fact. And I think we've done that on a couple so far. But need to up the percentage.

I don't disagree with anything you've said. I do think we've started to see an uptick a little out of state.

[Goldendawg]

I don't disagree with anything you've said. I do think we've started to see an uptick a little out of state.

If you look at the name schools currently behind us (we are #16 as of now with an 86.65 avg and only one 4*), without a strong finish this class could wind up at about 28 to 32. Just saying and I know some players will get ranked higher (hope it's ours) before the early signing date. Hail State to a strong finish!

[Homedawg]

If you look at the name schools currently behind us (we are #16 as of now with an 86.65 avg and only one 4*), without a strong finish this class could wind up at about 28 to 32. Just saying and I know some players will get ranked higher (hope it's ours) before the early signing date. Hail State to a strong finish!

We are going to sign a good many jucos, as we should, I think. Add that to the fact that the state is rather weak, our class isn't going to have a ton of star power. Just how it is.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We are going to sign a good many jucos, as we should, I think. Add that to the fact that the state is rather weak, our class isn't going to have a ton of star power. Just how it is.

I agree with everything you said except I don't think the state is weak. I think the state is missing star power but I think the state is pretty deep with P5/SEC talent.

[bigplayslay]

Joe rang the bell

[michaelww3d6]

Anybody know who it is yet?

[Ari Gold]

My guess is Dillon Johnson .. great get if so

[Doggie_Style]

Anybody know who it is yet?

Janari Dean probably

[Doggie_Style]

My guess is Dillon Johnson .. great get if so

He's on a visit to Oregon so no

[Doggie_Style]

we may get two commits today

[michaelww3d6]

And it's ...... Sebastien Dolcine

[Ari Gold]

Janari Dean probably

That’s later next month I think is his announcement

[Ari Gold]

He's on a visit to Oregon so no


Then you are correct it won’t be him today.. but I think it’s sooner than later

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That’s later next month I think is his announcement

July 4th on Janari

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Then you are correct it won’t be him today.. but I think it’s sooner than later

August is what I'm hearing on Dillon.

[Uncle Ruckus]

And what are you hearing on the one that just rang?

[Homedawg]

I agree with everything you said except I don't think the state is weak. I think the state is missing star power but I think the state is pretty deep with P5/SEC talent.

I'll buy that. Bad wording. It's not as top heavy with stars as last year.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

And what are you hearing on the one that just rang?

Big ugly

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'll buy that. Bad wording. It's not as top heavy with stars as last year.

Oh yea that's no doubt. Coming into college the state has never seen a class like last year. We'll see how they develop but that class was deep & also top heavy. That doesn't happen in MS.

[Doggie_Style]

Big ugly

ahhhh.....Grant Jackson then...

[msu15]

Great day today!

[KOdawg1]

Can't have too many Big Ugly's

[HoopsDawg]

What's the story on Taylor to Memphis?

[KOdawg1]

What's the story on Taylor to Memphis?
He's from Memphis I believe. Not completely crazy, especially since Norvell is a good coach with an offense that will allow him to showcase his abilities

[Cooterpoot]

Norvell a good coach? LOL

[Hambone]

So provided Heath gets back in the boat and Dean, Tulu and E Jai commit (well recommit with the last two) our recruiting class will be mostly in the book for this upcoming year. Are the last few spots for someone we hope to identify during the season or do you think they are already on our radar?

[msstate7]

Norvell a good coach? LOL

Win totals... 8, 10, 8

[KOdawg1]

Norvell a good coach? LOL
Yep.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So provided Heath gets back in the boat and Dean, Tulu and E Jai commit (well recommit with the last two) our recruiting class will be mostly in the book for this upcoming year. Are the last few spots for someone we hope to identify during the season or do you think they are already on our radar?

I'm not expecting E. Jai in this class right now.

[KOdawg1]

I'm not expecting E. Jai in this class right now.

So would we have dropped him eventually, or did he lose his spot by decomitting and now, he's left out looking in?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So would we have dropped him eventually, or did he lose his spot by decomitting and now, he's left out looking in?

I don't think we would've dropped him but he misplayed his hand by de-committing.

[Uncle Ruckus]

So would we have dropped him eventually, or did he lose his spot by decomitting and now, he's left out looking in?
The staff won’t wait around for him. He’s not the guy everyone thought he was early in the process. If Boswell tells OM not to recruit someone then it’s someone we don’t need to go after either

[Cooterpoot]

Yep.

5-3 conference record in 2 of 3 years (a terrible conference) and zero bowl wins say he’s not anything special at all. Combine that with his baggage and he’s really nothing to talk about.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If the rumor of the reason why he decommitted is true, I think we are probably making the right decision by going after someone else

[ZedFedder]

Trey Benson go to Oregon.

[KOdawg1]

Trey Benson go to Oregon.
Dillon Johnson got a CB to Oregon so it looks like the Ducks really want our RBs lol. No idea if he sticks with them or not, but this makes getting Johnson all more important if we want to sign two RBs in this class

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Dillon Johnson got a CB to Oregon so it looks like the Ducks really want our RBs lol. No idea if he sticks with them or not, but this makes getting Johnson all more important if we want to sign two RBs in this class

I definitely don't see both of them in Oregon. We'll see if 1 signs.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Question for the couple people who really do know what they?re talking about on here regarding where we stand with a few guys we don?t talk much about, or if we are pursuing them at all.
2 higher profile guys in Jaden Walley and Xavier Hill. Don?t know much about Hill, but Walley can play. I just think he wants to play QB somewhere like Plumlee last year.
Next is two lower ranked LBs that are big time athletes. Drake Thornton and Ahmad Johnson. These guys are MSU type LBs. Lowly ranked but can freaking run and will be good college LBs. Drake has running back speed and is probably the fastest LB in the state - Id be surprised if Ahmad wouldn?t be #2. Both kids would commit on the spot

[Ifyouonlyknew]

1. Hill is taking all of OV this summer minus MSU. I don't think he has a leader. MSU is up there in his top 3-4.

2. Walley doesn't do a lot of talking. He was at Top Dawg camp worked out at WR. Said he's being recruited at WR & DB & he was fine with either. Top 3 right now of MSU OM & Auburn no order.

3. I don't expect either LB to get an MSU offer. They're pretty good players just not on the level we're recruiting right now.

[Commercecomet24]

Jaden Walley played baseball on my travel team for a couple years. Like IYOK said he's a quiet young man and a really good kid. He's good with playing WR or DB cause he knows that's where his futures is. We have a real good shot with him. He could've been a heckuva baseball player if he stuck with it.

[Cooterpoot]

Yeah, Johnson is not an SEC LB. He’d make a good FB if those still existed.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Question for the couple people who really do know what they?re talking about on here regarding where we stand with a few guys we don?t talk much about, or if we are pursuing them at all.
2 higher profile guys in Jaden Walley and Xavier Hill. Don?t know much about Hill, but Walley can play. I just think he wants to play QB somewhere like Plumlee last year.
Next is two lower ranked LBs that are big time athletes. Drake Thornton and Ahmad Johnson. These guys are MSU type LBs. Lowly ranked but can freaking run and will be good college LBs. Drake has running back speed and is probably the fastest LB in the state - Id be surprised if Ahmad wouldn?t be #2. Both kids would commit on the spot

I havent seen Thornton but I have seen Johnson several times at 7 on 7. He is a big time athlete

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yeah, Johnson is not an SEC LB. He’d make a good FB if those still existed.

That would be the fastest and most athletic FB I have ever laid eyes on then. He may not be a SEC LB but it wouldnt surprise me at all if he got a SEC offer. He looks the part

[Uncle Ruckus]

I havent seen Thornton but I have seen Johnson several times at 7 on 7. He is a big time athlete
Johnson is noticeably faster than Thornton. Drake won the 5A 100m dash and came in 2nd in the 200. He’s a beast

[Cooterpoot]

That would be the fastest and most athletic FB I have ever laid eyes on then. He may not be a SEC LB but it wouldnt surprise me at all if he got a SEC offer. He looks the part

He’s not a P5 guy.

[Ari Gold]

Look for the bell to be ringing this weekend .. and yes I said ringing ..

[msbulldog]

Good news thanks Ari!

[ShotgunDawg]

Look for the bell to be ringing this weekend .. and yes I said ringing ..

Maybe?

https://twitter.com/Dill_7k/status/1140654239129198593

[Uncle Ruckus]

Tonight?

[Cooterpoot]

Dean committed

[msstate7]

Dean committed

This is an impressive get

[Ari Gold]

Dean committed

Boom... and more coming..

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Boom... and more coming..

Start of a real strong week.

[BeardoMSU]

Boom... and more coming..

Me likey...

[Goldendawg]

This is an impressive get

So I guess UM didn't want him. Is he our 1st Batesville commit since Pegues?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So I guess UM didn't want him. Is he our 1st Batesville commit since Pegues?

They wanted him bad. He was never interested in OM.

[Goldendawg]

They wanted him bad. He was never interested in OM.

Hail State! Hail Mr. Dean! Much better to be Mississippi State Made than MississippiMade!

[NickoeWatersHedges]

What a great get for Jomo. Janari is a future NFL guy in my opinion.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What a great get for Jomo. Janari is a future NFL guy in my opinion.

He's Marcus Murphy

[BuckyIsAB****]

Maybe the steal of the state. Dean is legit. One of the best RBs in the state of MS. Could play DB, Star (in our D) or RB in college. Murphy is a great comparison for him. Tylan Knight as well except he is bigger

[Hambone]

Only a matter of time before Tulu gets back in the boat

[Bothrops]

So I guess UM didn't want him. Is he our 1st Batesville commit since Pegues?

Since Kendrick Market, 2011.

[Hambone]

Dillon Johnson about to pull the trigger also???

[Ifyouonlyknew]

There are a few guys who are close

[Bdawg]

I hope JoMo is really sold on all these guys and is getting who he wants. Because at this pace he's about to be full. I guess if some more studs wants to come we would make room. I know there is plenty of time for more evaluations for our guys to be ranked higher but this baby seems close to done. So how do you guys feel about the class?
Edit: And no, I'm not complaining!!

[Todd4State]

I hope JoMo is really sold on all these guys and is getting who he wants. Because at this pace he's about to be full. I guess if some more studs wants to come we would make room. I know there is plenty of time for more evaluations for our guys to be ranked higher but this baby seems close to done. So how do you guys feel about the class?
Edit: And no, I'm not complaining!!

This class has to be bigger than what the experts think. The math isn't adding up. And I'm fine if we oversign after about ten years of undersigning.

[vv83]

Maybe the steal of the state. Dean is legit. One of the best RBs in the state of MS. Could play DB, Star (in our D) or RB in college. Murphy is a great comparison for him. Tylan Knight as well except he is bigger

Dang crazy he?s only a 3 star. Shows offers from Alabama, Georgia, USCe, and Tenn

[BuckyIsAB****]

Dang crazy he?s only a 3 star. Shows offers from Alabama, Georgia, USCe, and Tenn

If he committed to any of those others he'd be a 4 star at worst. The star system is incredibly flawed. Dean is for real

[Bdawg]

This class has to be bigger than what the experts think. The math isn't adding up. And I'm fine if we oversign after about ten years of undersigning.

Surely we will do what ever is necessary to sign the best players that want to be here. Oversigning included

[NickoeWatersHedges]

Presumably he?ll pickup a 4th. He?ll get invited to an all American game if he hasn?t already, atleast he should. IYOK comp is precise per usual imo. All credit goes to Shoop, TH, Marve, and T-Buck. Very pleased with this one.
Dang crazy he?s only a 3 star. Shows offers from Alabama, Georgia, USCe, and Tenn

[NickoeWatersHedges]

DJ would be huge

[Jarius]

This class has to be bigger than what the experts think. The math isn't adding up. And I'm fine if we oversign after about ten years of undersigning.

There are some guys who are committed that won't be in the class on signing day.

[Jack Lambert]

I hope JoMo is really sold on all these guys and is getting who he wants. Because at this pace he's about to be full. I guess if some more studs wants to come we would make room. I know there is plenty of time for more evaluations for our guys to be ranked higher but this baby seems close to done. So how do you guys feel about the class?
Edit: And no, I'm not complaining!!

I say load them up because we will lose a few before December.

[ShotgunDawg]

Seems like Joe is starting to gain a lot of trust from families & croots on the recruiting trail.

However, why does it seem like 247 has done a terrible job of evaluating MS players this year?

I realize we complain about this often, but this year especially sticks out because I have virtually no clue what we are getting due to it seeming like most every recruit is vastly underrated & in need of a new evaluation.

Did the 247 evaluators just punt on Mississippi this year?

[msu15]

I also think Joe will sign 25 and not worry about the future transfer market if there are guys that are just too good to pass up.

[ShotgunDawg]

I also think Joe will sign 25 and not worry about the future transfer market if there are guys that are just too good to pass up.

Signing 25 & the transfer market have nothing to do with each other.

25 has to do with HS recruiting & the transfer market has to do with the 85 scholarships.

I think Joe signs a full 25 & then gets some attrition on top of that from currently unproductive players to create room for transfers.

The transfer market is a market that MSU MUST compete in. It's simply too good of an opportunity to round out our roster & lessen the amount of holes we have.

[msu15]

Look for the bell to be ringing this weekend .. and yes I said ringing ..

This ain't the country club no more!

[ShotgunDawg]

This ain't the country club no more!

We've currently got 1 4 star recruit. 1.

Jumping quickly on the 3 stars in the state & not pushing for more highly rated recruits from outside the state would be the definition of country club

I love the Dean commitment & I think JoMo is making the best of a down instate year, but let's slow the roll on praising his recruiting.

Again, regardless of anyone's opinions of what players SHOULD be ranked, JoMo currently only has 1 4 star commitment.

That will get us killed in our division. Absolutely slaughtered

Alabama has 17 4+ stars committed
LSU has 13
A&M has 5
Auburn has 6

Those schools aren't committing every 3 instate kid that likes them. They are fighting for 4 stars.

Just saying.

I'm not being negative as I believe we will soon start to add the 4 stars, but it's just plainly inaccurate at this point to like this recruiting class. Completely inaccurate

[BigEasyDawg]

So is Alex Adams just not that interested in us anymore?

[msstate7]

We've currently got 1 4 star recruit. 1.

Jumping quickly on the 3 stars in the state & not pushing for more highly rated recruits from outside the state would be the definition of country club

I love the Dean commitment & I think JoMo is making the best of a down instate year, but let's slow the roll on praising his recruiting.

Again, regardless of anyone's opinions of what players SHOULD be ranked, JoMo currently only has 1 4 star commitment.

That will get us killed in our division. Absolutely slaughtered

Alabama has 17 4+ stars committed
LSU has 13
A&M has 5
Auburn has 6

Those schools aren't committing every 3 instate kid that likes them. They are fighting for 4 stars.

Just saying.

I'm not being negative as I believe we will soon start to add the 4 stars, but it's just plainly inaccurate at this point to like this recruiting class. Completely inaccurate

Who are the 4-stars besides tulu we are likely to get?

[msu15]

So is Alex Adams just not that interested in us anymore?

Rumblings about grades with him, we'll see.

[ShotgunDawg]

Who are the 4-stars besides tulu we are likely to get?

Not sure. But we need to be signing around 10 4 stars a year.

Recruiting classes like this one unless we pick it up, on paper will get us destroyed in the future.

I also think we may have 3-4 commits that are raised to 4 stars, but they haven't been yet & until they do, they're 3 stars.

[Scared_Hitless]

Not sure. But we need to be signing around 10 4 stars a year.

Recruiting classes like this one unless we pick it up, on paper will get us destroyed in the future.

I also think we may have 3-4 commits that are raised to 4 stars, but they haven't been yet & until they do, they're 3 stars.

This is never going to happen, unless you want to end up like Ole Miss. We are a developmental school. Take the athletes that are raw and mold them into players. We are always going to make our hay by getting elite athletes that are under recruited. That is going to be alot of 3 Stars with some State lean 4 Stars mixed in depending on in State talent for the year. As long as they have SEC measureables I am fine with getting these so called 3 stars.

[msu15]

Not sure. But we need to be signing around 10 4 stars a year.

Recruiting classes like this one unless we pick it up, on paper will get us destroyed in the future.

I also think we may have 3-4 commits that are raised to 4 stars, but they haven't been yet & until they do, they're 3 stars.

Like we got destroyed in 2014 right? We were literally a Mullen having his asshole too tight first half vs Alabama away from playing in Atlanta.

[Technetium]

I also think we may have 3-4 commits that are raised to 4 stars, but they haven't been yet & until they do, they're 3 stars.

That's a misguided comment. A player either is or isn't a 4 star talent, and it has nothing to do with how teams perform on the field if the evaluations from the recruiting sites are wrong. I could start my own recruiting site and rank all of Bama's players 2 star recruits, but they'll still win 11+ games every year; the recruiting ranking will only correlate to success when the evaluations are accurate. So if you think we have 3-4 commits that deserve to be 4 stars, then you have to acknowledge large error bars and lack of reliability with the current team rankings.

[Dawgology]

Not sure. But we need to be signing around 10 4 stars a year.

Recruiting classes like this one unless we pick it up, on paper will get us destroyed in the future.

I also think we may have 3-4 commits that are raised to 4 stars, but they haven't been yet & until they do, they're 3 stars.

Just like that 2011 class!!!*******

[ShotgunDawg]

We are a developmental school. Take the athletes that are raw and mold them into players.

This is such a bullshit, limiting comment.

[msstate7]

When Mullen was here, stars matter. Mullen gone, stars don't matter

[ShotgunDawg]

Amazing how some of you, after 9 straight bowl games, still expect to recruit the same.

I'm fine if you think this recruiting is Ok at this point, but don't praise JoMo. This class is in no way, shape, or form worth any praise at this point.

Could JoMo be out evaluating everyone & we'll end up in Atlanta with this class. Absolutely. However, there is pretty substantial history that says we have absolutely no chance of making that happen with classes like this.

[ShotgunDawg]

When Mullen was here, stars matter. Mullen gone, stars don't matter

That certainly appears to be the going trend.

Not saying Mullen wasn't lazy on the recruiting trail, but people are biased & delusional right now. Jomo could get a commitment from a paraplegic right now & people will talk about what a great job he's doing.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We've currently got 1 4 star recruit. 1.

Jumping quickly on the 3 stars in the state & not pushing for more highly rated recruits from outside the state would be the definition of country club

I love the Dean commitment & I think JoMo is making the best of a down instate year, but let's slow the roll on praising his recruiting.

Again, regardless of anyone's opinions of what players SHOULD be ranked, JoMo currently only has 1 4 star commitment.

That will get us killed in our division. Absolutely slaughtered

Alabama has 17 4+ stars committed
LSU has 13
A&M has 5
Auburn has 6

Those schools aren't committing every 3 instate kid that likes them. They are fighting for 4 stars.

Just saying.

I'm not being negative as I believe we will soon start to add the 4 stars, but it's just plainly inaccurate at this point to like this recruiting class. Completely inaccurate

I get what you're saying but there's a clear diff in 3*. There's the 3* with no other SEC or P5 offers & there's the 3* with a lot of offers who's a 3* because there's a cap on the # of 4* sites have. I'm just going to do the HS guys right now.

Javorrius Selmon - 3 SEC 4 P5 Offers
Cameron Threatt - 4 SEC 5 P5 Offers
Janari Dean - 7 SEC 8 P5 Offers
Tamarion McDonald - 4 SEC 5 P5 Offers
Jakivuan Brown - 5 SEC 8 P5 Offers
Jevon Banks - 3 SEC 5 P5 Offers
Emmanuel Forbes - 3 SEC 4 P5 Offers
Grant Jackson - 2 SEC 3 P5 Offers
Armondous Cooley - 1 SEC 2 P5 Offers
Calvin McMillan - 1 SEC 2 P5 Offers
Will Rogers - 1 SEC 2 P5 Offers

The majority of the Hs class are multiple SEC & P5 offer guys. I'm not trying to hype up these guys but they're more underrated by recruiting services than coaching staffs. Now look at who we're hot on with our remaining spots.

RB - Dillon Johnson 4* 4 SEC 7 P5 Offers
WR - Lideatrick "Tulu" Griffin 4* 4 SEC 4 P5 Offers
WR - Koy Moore (LSU favorite but in his top 5) 4* 8 SEC 12 P5 Offers
WR - Rakim Jarrett (LSU Commit but in top 5 & getting OV) 5* 10 SEC 30 P5 Offers
OL - Xavier Hill High 3* 10 SEC 13 P5 Offers
OL - Marcus Henderson 4* 13 SEC 20 P5 Offers
OL - Josh Remetich 3* 5 SEC 14 P5 Offers
DL - Montra Edwards 3* 8 SEC 19 P5 Offers
LB - Bryson Eason 4* 11 SEC P5 Offers
LB - Edgerrin Cooper 3* 1 SEC 4 P5 Offers
DB - Joey Hunter 3* 4 SEC 13 P5 Offers

[msu15]

When Mullen was here, stars matter. Mullen gone, stars don't matter

What the **** are you talking about? The vast majority of the time when Mullen was the coach most of the message board chatter was "stars don't matter". At least get your facts straight when you're bringing your daily spill.

[msstate7]

What the **** are you talking about? The vast majority of the time when Mullen was the coach most of the message board chatter was "stars don't matter". At least get your facts straight when you're bringing your daily spill.

Whatever. Go back and look at the recruiting threads when Mullen was here. He was ripped... why did you use the term, "country club recruiting"? Was that a compliment?

[ShotgunDawg]

I get what you're saying but there's a clear diff in 3*. There's the 3* with no other SEC or P5 offers & there's the 3* with a lot of offers who's a 3* because there's a cap on the # of 4* sites have. I'm just going to do the HS guys right now.

Javorrius Selmon - 3 SEC 4 P5 Offers
Cameron Threatt - 4 SEC 5 P5 Offers
Janari Dean - 7 SEC 8 P5 Offers
Tamarion McDonald - 4 SEC 5 P5 Offers
Jakivuan Brown - 5 SEC 8 P5 Offers
Jevon Banks - 3 SEC 5 P5 Offers
Emmanuel Forbes - 3 SEC 4 P5 Offers
Grant Jackson - 2 SEC 3 P5 Offers
Armondous Cooley - 1 SEC 2 P5 Offers
Calvin McMillan - 1 SEC 2 P5 Offers
Will Rogers - 1 SEC 2 P5 Offers

The majority of the Hs class are multiple SEC & P5 offer guys. I'm not trying to hype up these guys but they're more underrated by recruiting services than coaching staffs. Now look at who we're hot on with our remaining spots.

RB - Dillon Johnson 4* 4 SEC 7 P5 Offers
WR - Lideatrick "Tulu" Griffin 4* 4 SEC 4 P5 Offers
WR - Koy Moore (LSU favorite but in his top 5) 4* 8 SEC 12 P5 Offers
WR - Rakim Jarrett (LSU Commit but in top 5 & getting OV) 5* 10 SEC 30 P5 Offers
OL - Xavier Hill High 3* 10 SEC 13 P5 Offers
OL - Marcus Henderson 4* 13 SEC 20 P5 Offers
OL - Josh Remetich 3* 5 SEC 14 P5 Offers
DL - Montra Edwards 3* 8 SEC 19 P5 Offers
LB - Bryson Eason 4* 11 SEC P5 Offers
LB - Edgerrin Cooper 3* 1 SEC 4 P5 Offers
DB - Joey Hunter 3* 4 SEC 13 P5 Offers

Great post & I absolutely agree. It still an opinion though when history says you need about 50% 4 & 5 star recruits on your roster to have a chance.

Hopefully these guys get a boost.

I always want 10 4 & 5 stars a year. That puts us on pace for 40+ on our roster, which SHOULD offer us enough talent to compete with anyone

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Great post & I absolutely agree. It still an opinion though when history says you need about 50% 4 & 5 star recruits on your roster to have a chance.

Hopefully these guys get a boost.

I always want 10 4 & 5 stars a year. That puts us on pace for 40+ on our roster, which SHOULD offer us enough talent to compete with anyone

Again I don't disagree but you're doing a disservice to the Janari Dean's & Jakivuan Brown's of this class just calling them same old 3*. Also guys like Marcus Murphy, Fabian Lovett, Errol Thompson, Darryl Williams, Stewart Reese, Cam Dantzler etc. Yes they were 3* but their offer sheet showed that college coaches knew they were legit. That's why we have to be careful to differentiate from those bottom tier 3* who are projects or diamonds & these 3* who are the backup guys for LSU Bama UGA etc. We can win a lot of games with those 3* mixed in with 4 & 5* guys.

[Pollodawg]

Majority 3* kids is ok if your expectation is to win all four non-con games and beat UK and OM for 6-6.

[Pollodawg]

But, after a decade of bowls, at some point, the expectation has to ratchet up some.

[Dawgology]

Again I don't disagree but you're doing a disservice to the Janari Dean's & Jakivuan Brown's of this class just calling them same old 3*. Also guys like Marcus Murphy, Fabian Lovett, Errol Thompson, Darryl Williams, Stewart Reese, Cam Dantzler etc. Yes they were 3* but their offer sheet showed that college coaches knew they were legit. That's why we have to be careful to differentiate from those bottom tier 3* who are projects or diamonds & these 3* who are the backup guys for LSU Bama UGA etc. We can win a lot of games with those 3* mixed in with 4 & 5* guys.

Has also sent a clear sign that he is planning on leaning on the transfer market to fill in gaps and add talent. I can see him grabbing several 4 and 5 stars from places like Bama (who sit 4 stars as backups) in the next season now that he has his feet under him. Honestly, the new transfer rules greatly help a school like MSU.