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msstate7
12-16-2024, 08:35 PM
RB is the position I would spend the least amount of NIL funds in. RB and 2 down run stuffing DL who can?t rush the passer.

I?d spend the most on QB, pass rushers, pass defenders, and pass protectors.

Pro game, absolutely. I think RBs are more valuable in college though

StarkVegasSteve
12-16-2024, 08:39 PM
Pro game, absolutely. I think RBs are more valuable in college though

I would fight back a bit on that. I do not think you can completely take the NFL approach but our offense is never going to attract a star back because this offense uses at least 2 RBs and sometimes 3.

Cooterpoot
12-16-2024, 08:56 PM
Ehh kid on his 3rd school in 4 years is going to have a little less of a market than the Freshman who had a breakout season at the G5 level.

He already knows where he's going or he wouldn't be moving

Todd4State
12-17-2024, 02:43 AM
If would can't afford Hardy, we probably can't afford Dowdell either

I'd offer him to save face. His step Dad can't bitch about us overlooking us if we offer him and he turns us down again.

Todd4State
12-17-2024, 02:45 AM
Pro game, absolutely. I think RBs are more valuable in college though

Maybe if you are Army or Navy.

There aren't very many Adrian Peterson/Derrick Henry type freaks in the football world.

Jackie had the right idea. Have a committee of 2-3 running backs.

msstate7
12-17-2024, 06:58 AM
Maybe if you are Army or Navy.

There aren't very many Adrian Peterson/Derrick Henry type freaks in the football world.

Jackie had the right idea. Have a committee of 2-3 running backs.

3 of the top 10 rushers (jeanty, stattebo, and Sampson) are in the playoffs. Only 1 of the top 10 passers (Gabriel) are in the playoffs.

ETA... now if you wanna use passer rating, 5 of the top 10 passers are in the playoffs. This is why I use passer rating so much despite you guys saying it's dumb to use.

KB21
12-17-2024, 07:47 AM
Watching Jordan Dwyer. That guy might put up 1,500 yards with 10+ TDs in Lebby's offense.

Cooterpoot
12-17-2024, 09:05 AM
That LB/S/WR room should be strong. But until we spend on DL, little will change. We're continuing to just grab low end, injured, and cheap at DL. Edge too but at least those have a heart beat.

Really Clark?
12-17-2024, 09:38 AM
That LB/S/WR room should be strong. But until we spend on DL, little will change. We're continuing to just grab low end, injured, and cheap at DL. Edge too but at least those have a heart beat.

I agree. Also, our biggest need is DL and the DT group is really thin in the portal. The ones who can go are being picked over and getting top money everywhere.

Dawgology
12-17-2024, 09:38 AM
Tick tick tick…. Crickets

Portal class down to #10 and falling.

msstate7
12-17-2024, 09:43 AM
Tick tick tick…. Crickets

Portal class down to #10 and falling.

Still time to change it, but so far we've lost more (numbers and rating) than we've gained. That's pretty disturbing

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 09:45 AM
Tick tick tick…. Crickets

Portal class down to #10 and falling.

Should be a pretty active week for us. Kromenhoek should commit, feeling good about Jalen Smith, Delano Townsend could be in the boat this week, as well a few others.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 09:52 AM
I agree. Also, our biggest need is DL and the DT group is really thin in the portal. The ones who can go are being picked over and getting top money everywhere.

Right, wrong, or indifferent we still have a DL coach employed that doesn?t believe in paying his group and thinks his ?resume? speaks for itself in McPhee, Cox, Boyd, Smith, & Jones. However it wasn?t he who actually got 3/5 to commit to us.

Damon Payne just entered portal. Make an offer he can?t refuse. At this point, as others have said, you need some good players in the middle to at least give your edge guys a chance.

KB21
12-17-2024, 09:53 AM
Will Whitson will be coming in for a visit this week. He and Santana Hopper are probably the two best DL available from a production standpoint.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 09:53 AM
Still time to change it, but so far we've lost more (numbers and rating) than we've gained. That's pretty disturbing

Eh biggest portal losses to me are Pollock and Coleman. I do wish that MVB wouldn?t have ask for guaranteed playing time, especially with getting paid, but it happened and we have to adjust. Lebby has to land the FL State kid for a perception win.

msstate7
12-17-2024, 09:54 AM
Serious question - it seems every season is a gonna be a full rebuild. With this in mind, our extremely difficult schedule, and lebby guaranteed a 3rd season, should we consider banking some of our NIL money, add to it next season, and then go all-in in year 3?

basedog
12-17-2024, 09:54 AM
Still time to change it, but so far we've lost more (numbers and rating) than we've gained. That's pretty disturbing

No need to be disappointed, portal season isn't over then it's a wait and see next fall to know!

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 09:54 AM
Will Whitson will be coming in for a visit this week. He and Santana Hopper are probably the two best DL available from a production standpoint.

That?s great. But at some point, those visits need to transition into signing. And right now they aren?t.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 09:56 AM
Serious question - it seems every season is a gonna be a full rebuild. With this in mind, our extremely difficult schedule, and lebby guaranteed a 3rd season, should we consider banking some of our NIL money, add to it next season, and then go all-in in year 3?

Schedule is absolutely brutal. At least we get some of those at home-so hopefully Selmon dials up game day experience more for everyone to give future players some hope about an updated environment. Good thinking though on 26..you may see it happened.

bulldawg28
12-17-2024, 10:02 AM
Tick tick tick…. Crickets

Portal class down to #10 and falling.


Should be a pretty active week for us. Kromenhoek should commit, feeling good about Jalen Smith, Delano Townsend could be in the boat this week, as well a few others.

Bro, we need momentum with key positions. It's slow motion. I'm expecting more options once spring practice is over.

KB21
12-17-2024, 10:03 AM
That?s great. But at some point, those visits need to transition into signing. And right now they aren?t.

We have had a few guys who would have committed that the coaches have held off on taking for the time being. Will Whitson and Raishein Thomas would both be good gets if they decide to commit this week.

msu15
12-17-2024, 10:12 AM
Still time to change it, but so far we've lost more (numbers and rating) than we've gained. That's pretty disturbing

Boy that numbers part is dead wrong. 21 of those guys weren't even in the two deep by the Egg Bowl.

bulldawg28
12-17-2024, 10:13 AM
We should go after Air Noland

Chuck3124
12-17-2024, 10:35 AM
Any idea who the WR commit might be? Sategna or Williams?

CaptainObvious
12-17-2024, 10:41 AM
Who is Kromenhoek visiting this week?

Cooterpoot
12-17-2024, 10:41 AM
Will Whitson will be coming in for a visit this week. He and Santana Hopper are probably the two best DL available from a production standpoint.

Whitson has been hurt, so he's meets the profile

HancockCountyDog
12-17-2024, 10:56 AM
143/614/12. If you could get him and not break the bank doing it, he'd be worth it.

I'll be stunned if he doesn't end up at Auburn.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 10:59 AM
Who is Kromenhoek visiting this week?

No one to our knowledge.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 11:04 AM
We have had a few guys who would have committed that the coaches have held off on taking for the time being. Will Whitson and Raishein Thomas would both be good gets if they decide to commit this week.

We aren?t exactly in a position to be ?holding off on guys?. they will take guys and bring them in for spring ball and if said guys aren?t cut out for it-they?ll push them to hit spring portal session. That?s how it?s going to go. Take as many guys as you think and see what you got in spring ball.

Cooterpoot
12-17-2024, 11:13 AM
We aren?t exactly in a position to be ?holding off on guys?. they will take guys and bring them in for spring ball and if said guys aren?t cut out for it-they?ll push them to hit spring portal session. That?s how it?s going to go. Take as many guys as you think and see what you got in spring ball.

It ain't all us passing, a lot is those kids that we offer those type spots to who are looking for more.

BigDawg81
12-17-2024, 11:14 AM
No one to our knowledge. Not concerning but he hasn?t officially committed yet

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 11:23 AM
Not concerning but he hasn?t officially committed yet

He will. I imagine he is just waiting for the graphic or what not. Paul and Steve both said he would probably commit within the week.

HancockCountyDog
12-17-2024, 11:27 AM
We aren?t exactly in a position to be ?holding off on guys?. they will take guys and bring them in for spring ball and if said guys aren?t cut out for it-they?ll push them to hit spring portal session. That?s how it?s going to go. Take as many guys as you think and see what you got in spring ball.

We are bringing in so many guys right now, that we are holding off on several. I was told the UAB center wanted to commit, but after finding out he was 6'0" and about 260 as opposed to 6'2" 295, we told him to hold off on his commit.

That is going to happen a lot with these lower school guys.

Also, the DL market right now is thin as hell. Schools are paying top dollar to keep guys from leaving. Sure there are some solid pieces out there, but it is a handful of guys. The WR market is flush with guys. Everyone is going to sign a WR. The problem is finding a Coleman as opposed to Kelly A. One is a game breaker, the other is a solid number 3 or 4 guys. We need a true number 1.

Those guys will be hard to find. Singleton from GT, the kid that just left Miami, Dane Key, the Oklahoma State WR, Barrion Brown who just committed to LSU, Nic Anderson, and maybe the Idaho guy are all difference makers.

DEDawg
12-17-2024, 11:29 AM
We are bringing in so many guys right now, that we are holding off on several. I was told the UAB center wanted to commit, but after finding out he was 6'0" and about 260 as opposed to 6'2" 295, we told him to hold off on his commit.

That is going to happen a lot with these lower school guys.

Also, the DL market right now is thin as hell. Schools are paying top dollar to keep guys from leaving. Sure there are some solid pieces out there, but it is a handful of guys. The WR market is flush with guys. Everyone is going to sign a WR. The problem is finding a Coleman as opposed to Kelly A. One is a game breaker, the other is a solid number 3 or 4 guys. We need a true number 1.

Those guys will be hard to find. Singleton from GT, the kid that just left Miami, Dane Key, the Oklahoma State WR, Barrion Brown who just committed to LSU, Nic Anderson, and maybe the Idaho guy are all difference makers.

Man I still can't believe we lost Coleman. That one sucks. Wonder if the door is shut now on Craver or if there's still a chance

Pancho
12-17-2024, 11:32 AM
craver shut the door all by himself. lebby then told him goodbye very professionally

StateDawg44
12-17-2024, 11:34 AM
Also, the DL market right now is thin as hell. Schools are paying top dollar to keep guys from leaving. Sure there are some solid pieces out there, but it is a handful of guys.

Thank goodness we still have the DT to get it straightened out.*** Until the end of January at least. Makes total sense.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 11:36 AM
craver shut the door all by himself. lebby then told him goodbye very professionally

Yea Craver burned that bridge all on his own.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 11:40 AM
Kromenhoek, pronounced Crow-Men-Hawk, is officially official.

basedog
12-17-2024, 11:43 AM
Kromenhoek, pronounced Crow-Men-Hawk, is officially official.

Great news! Maybe the naysayer will at least grin** LOL

Pancho
12-17-2024, 11:47 AM
wonder how Jack Cristol would say kromenhawk? lol

KB21
12-17-2024, 11:49 AM
Jeff Lebby has signed the two highest rated QBs in Mississippi State history this year.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 11:49 AM
We are bringing in so many guys right now, that we are holding off on several. I was told the UAB center wanted to commit, but after finding out he was 6'0" and about 260 as opposed to 6'2" 295, we told him to hold off on his commit.

That is going to happen a lot with these lower school guys.

Also, the DL market right now is thin as hell. Schools are paying top dollar to keep guys from leaving. Sure there are some solid pieces out there, but it is a handful of guys. The WR market is flush with guys. Everyone is going to sign a WR. The problem is finding a Coleman as opposed to Kelly A. One is a game breaker, the other is a solid number 3 or 4 guys. We need a true number 1.

Those guys will be hard to find. Singleton from GT, the kid that just left Miami, Dane Key, the Oklahoma State WR, Barrion Brown who just committed to LSU, Nic Anderson, and maybe the Idaho guy are all difference makers.

When Coleman came out in spring did you think he was a difference maker? Talent was there but stats weren?t there at Louisville. I personally thought based on tape that Trent Hudson was going to be the difference maker over Kelly A and Coleman. Boy was I wrong huh?

msu15
12-17-2024, 12:13 PM
Jeff Lebby has signed the two highest rated QBs in Mississippi State history this year.

Costello was rated higher, but two out of three ain't bad.

CaptainObvious
12-17-2024, 12:20 PM
Great news! Maybe the naysayer will at least grin** LOL

"GRINNING"😁😁😁😁😁

LibraryDawg
12-17-2024, 12:21 PM
Craver being predicted to aTm by on3. It?s bad enough to loose these guys but to have them transfer to teams on your schedule stinks.

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 12:22 PM
Jeff Lebby has signed the two highest rated QBs in Mississippi State history this year.

He got QBs with more stars than he got Ws

I kid....I kid....lol

CaptainObvious
12-17-2024, 12:22 PM
Maybe now those who were concerned can feel comfortable that State can outscore South Mississippi Uninversity

Really Clark?
12-17-2024, 12:22 PM
Idaho WR should be in to visit this week. Would love to have him, it will cost the team a good bit that gets him so we need to be more than just competitive if we want a chance.

We did a good job to just get a visit commitment. He is blowing up.

Young dawg
12-17-2024, 12:34 PM
Dwyer would be a monster in this offense. He would end the drought of wrs not being drafted

HancockCountyDog
12-17-2024, 12:37 PM
Idaho WR should be in to visit this week. Would love to have him, it will cost the team a good bit that gets him so we need to be more than just competitive if we want a chance.

We did a good job to just get a visit commitment. He is blowing up.

Portal WR's are weird - a guy I liked - Chase Sowell, WR from ECU is going to Iowa State. That give me hope. I know Iowa State had a good year, but they aren't a power program and if they can land a guy like him, we should be able to land a difference maker as well.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 12:38 PM
Idaho WR should be in to visit this week. Would love to have him, it will cost the team a good bit that gets him so we need to be more than just competitive if we want a chance.

We did a good job to just get a visit commitment. He is blowing up.

He would be your Coleman/KellyA replacement. He has the size and speed to really help us next year. He may not quite be Coleman but he is better than KellyA.

KB21
12-17-2024, 12:42 PM
He would be your Coleman/KellyA replacement. He has the size and speed to really help us next year. He may not quite be Coleman but he is better than KellyA.

Think somewhere between what Kendall Wright and Terrence Williams did in 2011 and 2012 at Baylor and what Antwan Goodley, Corey Coleman, and KD Gannon did at Baylor from 2013-2015.

KB21
12-17-2024, 12:44 PM
Good lord this offense put up some numbers back in the Briles Baylor days.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 12:45 PM
Correct. Probably closer to Williams. 45-55 catches/750-1000 yds/5-8 TDs

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 12:46 PM
Good lord this offense put up some numbers back in the Briles Baylor days.

Yea it was stupid. No one could defend it. QBs threw for 4000+ almost every year.

KB21
12-17-2024, 12:50 PM
Correct. Probably closer to Williams. 45-55 catches/750-1000 yds/5-8 TDs

These numbers are ridiculous:

2011: Kendall Wright 108-1,663-14
2012: Terrence Williams 97-1,832-12/Tevin Reese 53-957-9
2013: Antwan Goodley 71-1,339-13/Tevin Reese 38-867-8/Levi Norwood 47-733-8
2014: Corey Coleman 64-1,119-11/58-1,030-8/Antwan Goodley 60-830-6

KB21
12-17-2024, 12:52 PM
Yea it was stupid. No one could defend it. QBs threw for 4000+ almost every year.

They had a 1,600 yard receiver and a 1,500 yard runner in 2011.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 12:52 PM
Continue to really love what I am hearing on Jalen Smith, Tennessee LB, Hutzler has been relentless on this one. Believes he is a day 1 starter for us and a difference maker. I expect we hear something in the next 4-5 days on him.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 12:53 PM
They had a 1,600 yard receiver and a 1,500 yard runner in 2011.

Then turned it on its head Briles last year and had two 1000 yd rushers.

bulldawg28
12-17-2024, 01:01 PM
He would be your Coleman/KellyA replacement. He has the size and speed to really help us next year. He may not quite be Coleman but he is better than KellyA.

No sir. He's not fast...At all. Dude ran a 11.7 in the 100. That's like 4.6, 4.7 speed.

Goldendawg
12-17-2024, 01:01 PM
These numbers are ridiculous:

2011: Kendall Wright 108-1,663-14
2012: Terrence Williams 97-1,832-12/Tevin Reese 53-957-9
2013: Antwan Goodley 71-1,339-13/Tevin Reese 38-867-8/Levi Norwood 47-733-8
2014: Corey Coleman 64-1,119-11/58-1,030-8/Antwan Goodley 60-830-6

Any of these guys in the NFL or just great college receivers in the right system for them like Leach?

KB21
12-17-2024, 01:05 PM
Any of these guys in the NFL or just great college receivers in the right system for them like Leach?

Most of them flamed out in the NFL. Wright played for a few years but was nothing like he was in college.

KB21
12-17-2024, 01:09 PM
Fluff Bothwell is apparently coming in for a visit.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 01:12 PM
Any of these guys in the NFL or just great college receivers in the right system for them like Leach?

Kendall Wright, Terrance Williams, and Corey Coleman all played in the league. And they actually played.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 01:18 PM
No sir. He's not fast...At all. Dude ran a 11.7 in the 100. That's like 4.6, 4.7 speed.

Tee Higgins ran a 4.6 at his pro day and he is a top 30 receiver. Can you get open? Can you catch the ball? Can you get YAC? That is all that matters. And he can do all 3 really well.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 01:20 PM
Fluff Bothwell is apparently coming in for a visit.

If he commits I would not be surprised to see Daniels or Davis enter the portal.

Pancho
12-17-2024, 01:25 PM
what a name, fluff

HancockCountyDog
12-17-2024, 01:25 PM
If he commits I would not be surprised to see Daniels or Davis enter the portal.

Bye

bulldawg28
12-17-2024, 01:30 PM
Tee Higgins ran a 4.6 at his pro day and he is a top 30 receiver. Can you get open? Can you catch the ball? Can you get YAC? That is all that matters. And he can do all 3 really well.

Tee Higgins ran a 4.5 and he's not that caliber. He's a possession WR which is fine.

bulldawg28
12-17-2024, 01:34 PM
Fluff Bothwell is apparently coming in for a visit.

Bring him in.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 02:00 PM
Lanier and Brumfield both back. Maybe we will actually have enough depth at CB to play Lanier in the correct position this year.

Pancho
12-17-2024, 02:33 PM
hope so. looks like craver is going to college station

Brobi-wan
12-17-2024, 02:35 PM
Guess playing with MVB wasn’t that important.

Pancho
12-17-2024, 02:37 PM
lsu had no interest

DEDawg
12-17-2024, 03:23 PM
lsu had no interest

Imagine showing your ass demanding your buddy starts or you leave then your buddy goes somewhere else that doesn?t want you. Embarrassing

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 03:25 PM
Imagine showing your ass demanding your buddy starts or you leave then your buddy goes somewhere else that doesn?t want you. Embarrassing

They didn't want him and Bama and Auburn both kind of slow played him. I think he thought he had to jump at the first commitable SEC offer

Op4isabitch
12-17-2024, 03:31 PM
Okay guys!

Need some names for big uglies on both lines! Who’s visiting, who do you feel good about and who’s on the verge of committing?

Brobi-wan
12-17-2024, 03:32 PM
Delete

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 03:34 PM
Okay guys!

Need some names for big uglies on both lines! Who’s visiting, who do you feel good about and who’s on the verge of committing?

We are on a few but are waiting for this first round of games to end on Saturday to see who jumps in. There just is not a whole lot of difference makers at DL, moreso at DT where we need help, in the portal at the moment.

As far OL, we already have one committee and are trying to set up visits with a couple of more.

Op4isabitch
12-17-2024, 03:46 PM
We are on a few but are waiting for this first round of games to end on Saturday to see who jumps in. There just is not a whole lot of difference makers at DL, moreso at DT where we need help, in the portal at the moment.

As far OL, we already have one committee and are trying to set up visits with a couple of more.

I’m eager to see some commitment from those guys.

Thanks

Todd4State
12-17-2024, 04:06 PM
We are on a few but are waiting for this first round of games to end on Saturday to see who jumps in. There just is not a whole lot of difference makers at DL, moreso at DT where we need help, in the portal at the moment.

As far OL, we already have one committee and are trying to set up visits with a couple of more.

This is going to be a process. Really hope we can pick up Delano from UAB. He seems like a keeper.

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 04:42 PM
This is going to be a process. Really hope we can pick up Delano from UAB. He seems like a keeper.

He is one we are pretty confident about at the moment.

DEDawg
12-17-2024, 05:16 PM
We got a 5 star QB and Ole Miss got rim stuffed by Alabama for trying to tamper with their star CB. Not a bad day

TrapGame
12-17-2024, 05:27 PM
We got a 5 star QB and Ole Miss got rim stuffed by Alabama for trying to tamper with their star CB. Not a bad day

Oh really, what happened there?

Pancho
12-17-2024, 05:36 PM
Oh really, what happened there?

the sharts lost the counter offer war

Chuck3124
12-17-2024, 05:39 PM
Jalen smith to Okie state? What happened or is happening there?

bulldawg28
12-17-2024, 05:45 PM
Jalen smith to Okie state? What happened or is happening there?

No one knows what's happening with these kids. If they visit and don't commit and visit other schools scratch them off the list.

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 05:46 PM
lsu had no interest

Hahahaha - LSU only got MVB to get craver according to Bankerdog

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 05:50 PM
Jalen smith to Okie state? What happened or is happening there?

That is the last school we should never ever lose a player to in the NIL world. They were as bad as us last year

Really Clark?
12-17-2024, 05:53 PM
Jalen hasn't committed to OK St.

Todd4State
12-17-2024, 05:53 PM
Jalen smith to Okie state? What happened or is happening there?

Apparently it's fake.

Pancho
12-17-2024, 05:53 PM
Hahahaha - LSU only got MVB to get craver according to Bankerdog

Craver's chances are greater that he doesn't stay out of trouble than even staying on a team, period. MVB will have to somehow ditch the floating deep passes or he'll never throw to the LSU stable of nfl WR's.

Pancho
12-17-2024, 05:54 PM
Jalin hasn't committed to OK St.

no, that's fake. I'm sure hoping we got him

Really Clark?
12-17-2024, 05:57 PM
WF OT visiting Thursday. Nebraska is also on his visits.

Pancho
12-17-2024, 05:58 PM
name?

Really Clark?
12-17-2024, 06:06 PM
name?

Keagan Trost

StarkVegasSteve
12-17-2024, 06:35 PM
no, that's fake. I'm sure hoping we got him

He also doubled down on it too. This feels like one of those he was negotiating and someone jumped the gun. This could end up working out for us. Could honestly have just been negotiating a visit. Either way, this is our chance to strike while he is pissed at them and take him back, if he was indeed headed there.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 06:48 PM
Hahahaha - LSU only got MVB to get craver according to Bankerdog

Hahaha I?ve brought more information to said board than you ever have. You?re equivalent to Todd4State and living through your family members who played ball hahaha.

You win some, you lose some.

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 06:50 PM
That is the last school we should never ever lose a player to in the NIL world. They were as bad as us last year

Obviously cowbell has never heard of Mr. T. Boone Pickens and his previous donations to said university specifically football. Sort of like Mr. Leo with State.

Coursesuper
12-17-2024, 06:53 PM
Obviously cowbell has never heard of Mr. T. Boone Pickens and his previous donations to said university specifically football. Sort of like Mr. Leo with State.

He could have bought Mr Leo over 3 times

BankerDog
12-17-2024, 08:02 PM
He could have bought Mr Leo over 3 times

Probably more like 7x over.

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 09:22 PM
Hahaha I?ve brought more information to said board than you ever have. You?re equivalent to Todd4State and living through your family members who played ball hahaha.

You win some, you lose some.

Maybe just admit that I knew what I was talking about and move on.
I only call people out when they try to make me out to be an idiot when I was right all along.

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 09:28 PM
Obviously cowbell has never heard of Mr. T. Boone Pickens and his previous donations to said university specifically football. Sort of like Mr. Leo with State.

Let me update you - T. Boone is dead and that money ain't there no more., atleast not for NIL. Gundy has been the last coach in P4 to embrace NIL and it nearly cost him his job two weeks ago. That program is a dumpster fire. They have less booster support than we do.

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 09:29 PM
He could have bought Mr Leo over 3 times

But he died before NIL was a thing

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 09:30 PM
He also doubled down on it too. This feels like one of those he was negotiating and someone jumped the gun. This could end up working out for us. Could honestly have just been negotiating a visit. Either way, this is our chance to strike while he is pissed at them and take him back, if he was indeed headed there.

If we are competing with their NIL, we got no worries

Coursesuper
12-17-2024, 09:33 PM
But he died before NIL was a thing

?Could have? is past tense there big guy. Well aware that he?s no longer with us. Couple of good friends that are Cowboys.

Irondawg
12-17-2024, 09:36 PM
Nic Anderson to LSU

DEDawg
12-17-2024, 09:37 PM
Nic Anderson to LSU
Damn. Sucks. Bet we were never in the game

Cowbell
12-17-2024, 09:41 PM
?Could have? is past tense there big guy. Well aware that he?s no longer with us. Couple of good friends that are Cowboys.

I ger the past tense but just supporting my earlier point. That money being dried up has been a huge hit to them. I married into a booster family from there and got a grad degree from there so we may have some mutual friends

bulldawg28
12-18-2024, 02:57 AM
Damn. Sucks. Bet we were never in the game

NEVER

BigDawg81
12-18-2024, 09:17 AM
Sheffield to Rutgers

Chuck3124
12-18-2024, 09:21 AM
I know we probably aren?t in the mix, but does anybody know anything on Johntay Cook WR from Texas?

TrapGame
12-18-2024, 09:47 AM
Sheffield to Rutgers

Rutgers?!!

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 10:02 AM
Rutgers?!!

Probably the best he could do and get to P5. He was down our list a bit. We got the kid from OU and DT was the backup option to that kid.

maroonmania
12-18-2024, 10:09 AM
Are we going to play without any SEC caliber Defensive Tackles next season? Why does David Turner still have a job? He's certainly not contributing anything in recruiting.

TrapGame
12-18-2024, 10:17 AM
Are we going to play without any SEC caliber Defensive Tackles next season? Why does David Turner still have a job? He's certainly not contributing anything in recruiting.

More portal hopping this weekend and also spring. It's not over yet. I think Hutzler is doing the recruiting and DT is waiting for his contract to end. Hutzler is a pretty good recruiter. I'll give him that.

CaptainObvious
12-18-2024, 10:18 AM
Rutgers?!!

Jue gots problems with Piscataway? Do I needs to call the Family?

BigDawg81
12-18-2024, 10:20 AM
The Idaho receiver cancelled his visit?

Really Clark?
12-18-2024, 10:21 AM
Are we going to play without any SEC caliber Defensive Tackles next season? Why does David Turner still have a job? He's certainly not contributing anything in recruiting.

The DT market is thin right now

Pancho
12-18-2024, 10:22 AM
The Idaho receiver cancelled his visit?

possibly thinks he's better than us

Really Clark?
12-18-2024, 10:24 AM
Parson to Austin Peay

DEDawg
12-18-2024, 10:27 AM
The Idaho receiver cancelled his visit?
Wow. WR went quickly from our only strength to a big weakness. What do we have there?

BigDawg81
12-18-2024, 10:28 AM
Parson to Austin PeayOur evaluations has been terrible for the past few years.

TrapGame
12-18-2024, 10:48 AM
Our evaluations has been terrible for the past few years.

After Parson got hurt in high school he wasn't the same.

TrapGame
12-18-2024, 10:48 AM
Jue gots problems with Piscataway? Do I needs to call the Family?

Fa getta bout it.

Matt3467
12-18-2024, 10:58 AM
After Parson got hurt in high school he wasn't the same.

Wasn't he a top performer at one of the Elite 11 camps?

TrapGame
12-18-2024, 11:02 AM
Wasn't he a top performer at one of the Elite 11 camps?

Yep. He was the top guy. Then he got hurt late in the season.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 11:11 AM
Yep. He was the top guy. Then he got hurt late in the season.

I think he would have been really good in the right system. I am just not sure what that system is tbh. The Mullen scheme probably fits him the best honestly. I still think he has G5 talent level. Hopefully he can put a good year together at the FCS level and get to a Middle Tennessee type program to end his career.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 11:13 AM
Joseph Williams to Utah. Interesting decision. I did not have a great feeling about him but thought he would head somewhere bigger. I seem to remember LSU being on him at the start of the process.

confucius say
12-18-2024, 11:18 AM
Probably the best he could do and get to P5. He was down our list a bit. We got the kid from OU and DT was the backup option to that kid.

And there are reasons we weren't offering him that have nothing to do with his on field talent.
We're trying to clean some stuff up.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 11:21 AM
And there are reasons we weren't offering him that have nothing to do with his on field talent.
We're trying to clean some stuff up.

Correct. There is also the fact that our internal WR board may be a better kept secret than the Moon landing. Lebby and Bumphis are keeping that one extremely close. There are rumors we are targeting some receivers currently in the playoffs but like I said, no way to get any kind of clarity on that.

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 11:29 AM
This staff is trash

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 11:33 AM
This staff is trash

How you figure that? Just generally interested in your opinion on it since we have the 6th ranked portal class accd to 247

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 11:45 AM
I mean as of this moment, we have lost one guy of consequence, Coleman. The rest have already been replaced, were so far down the depth chart it did not matter, or will be replaced in the coming days. You could argue Pollock was a loss, but I do not believe it was a big one.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 11:54 AM
Nikhai Hill-Green, Colorado LB, visiting today. Would be a massive pickup for us.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 12:00 PM
Also visiting today:

Micah Pollard-Michigan LB
Braxton Myers-USM DB
Raishein Thomas-Northern Illinois DE
Jalonnie Williams-Northern Illinois DT

SPMT
12-18-2024, 12:25 PM
Also visiting today:

Micah Pollard-Michigan LB
Braxton Myers-USM DB
Raishein Thomas-Northern Illinois DE
Jalonnie Williams-Northern Illinois DT

Get them all.

He they have LB, DE, DT, DB by their name pay them whatever. Get them all.

Glaringly obvious how pitiful the talent there was last year. (Thanks Arnett).

Cowbell
12-18-2024, 12:38 PM
Also visiting today:

Micah Pollard-Michigan LB
Braxton Myers-USM DB
Raishein Thomas-Northern Illinois DE
Jalonnie Williams-Northern Illinois DT

Thanks for the continued info man

mparkerfd20
12-18-2024, 12:53 PM
This staff is trash

I strongly concur as a whole. DT and Hutzler weigh the scales exponentially in that direction though.

CaptainObvious
12-18-2024, 01:07 PM
Any chance that Old Miss has passed us in the area of defense talent due to their DC and his experience as a DC and as a recruiter? Or is it primarily the money they are willing to so be on defense now?

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 01:12 PM
I strongly concur as a whole. DT and Hutzler weigh the scales exponentially in that direction though.

Hutzler is literally having to recruit LBs and DL this class because Turner is not doing crap. He knows we are not retaining him.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 01:13 PM
Any chance that Old Miss has passed us in the area of defense talent due to their DC and his experience as a DC and as a recruiter? Or is it primarily the money they are willing to so be on defense now?

Money.

DEDawg
12-18-2024, 01:26 PM
Hutzler is literally having to recruit LBs and DL this class because Turner is not doing crap. He knows we are not retaining him.

Why are we playing nice and letting him stay around and finish his contract? This is mind boggling. He is not doing his job, fire his ass.

mo7888
12-18-2024, 01:26 PM
What do we think about Williams? Not a guy I'm familiar with..

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 01:28 PM
Also visiting today:

Micah Pollard-Michigan LB
Braxton Myers-USM DB
Raishein Thomas-Northern Illinois DE
Jalonnie Williams-Northern Illinois DT

That's a pretty weak list but were desperate

Goldendawg
12-18-2024, 01:28 PM
Any chance that Old Miss has passed us in the area of defense talent due to their DC and his experience as a DC and as a recruiter? Or is it primarily the money they are willing to so be on defense now?

Both. You want to play for Hutz vs Golding, 2-10 vs 9-3 and then there is their national image vs us. Google Dickie Scrugg's worth in 2024, $1.7 billion or so, many others bought in.

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 01:28 PM
What do we think about Williams? Not a guy I'm familiar with..

Two deep guy but that's about it

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 01:30 PM
Hutzler is literally having to recruit LBs and DL this class because Turner is not doing crap. He knows we are not retaining him.

Nobody is doing crap. Have you seen that WR room? RB? DL? CB? Edge! It's embarrassing

Todd4State
12-18-2024, 01:33 PM
Why are we playing nice and letting him stay around and finish his contract? This is mind boggling. He is not doing his job, fire his ass.

Probably to not make some boosters mad.

Op4isabitch
12-18-2024, 01:33 PM
Disregard.

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 01:36 PM
Probably to not make some boosters mad.

The boosters wanted staff changes. Try your AD and HC

Coursesuper
12-18-2024, 02:03 PM
Money.

And being years behind them playing the game.

Tough Dawg
12-18-2024, 02:20 PM
If what is being said about DT is true in not retaining him then why not just go ahead and let him go. That spot can be open until replacement is through coaching in the playoffs. Having DT just hang out doesn't make any sense to me.

DEDawg
12-18-2024, 02:30 PM
Gabriel Brownlow-Dindy to USC. Another DL I don?t think we even got any interest from

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 02:55 PM
If what is being said about DT is true in not retaining him then why not just go ahead and let him go. That spot can be open until replacement is through coaching in the playoffs. Having DT just hang out doesn't make any sense to me.

Well he is not recruiting to my knowledge. Neither is Bell. I would not expect him back either.

ZedFedder
12-18-2024, 02:56 PM
I hate the whole ?poverty program? talk or whatever, but if DT is being allowed to hang around until January or whatever for money, then we are indeed a poverty program. I personally think he is coming back.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 03:03 PM
Would not be surprised if we get a commit today.

RezDog7
12-18-2024, 03:03 PM
Hutzler is literally having to recruit LBs and DL this class because Turner is not doing crap. He knows we are not retaining him.

Then our leadership is dumber than I thought. Why would Turner be on staff and no one hired to replace him yet. What is the point of not hiring somebody now?

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 03:10 PM
Then our leadership is dumber than I thought. Why would Turner be on staff and no one hired to replace him yet. What is the point of not hiring somebody now?

Replacement is out of all likelihood still coaching.

DawgFromOxford
12-18-2024, 03:16 PM
Hutzler is literally having to recruit LBs and DL this class because Turner is not doing crap. He knows we are not retaining him.

Which is fine but that doesn't mean you can't hire his replacement to come in already and start recruiting, unless we are holding out on someone who is coaching in the playoffs.

BigDawg81
12-18-2024, 03:34 PM
Hearing that Texas LB Derion Gullette has committed

msu15
12-18-2024, 03:37 PM
Hearing that Texas LB Derion Gullette has committed

Nothing to "hear", it's been published.

BigDawg81
12-18-2024, 03:39 PM
Nothing to "hear", it's been published. I heard before I seen it go social. Hopefully, he can bring one of the Defensive Tackles with him.

TStationDawg
12-18-2024, 03:40 PM
Damn this place is unbearable. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year you miserable SOB's....

msu15
12-18-2024, 03:43 PM
I heard before I seen it go social. Hopefully, he can bring one of the Defensive Tackles with him.

Need all the defensive warm bodies we can get

bigbub50
12-18-2024, 03:48 PM
Damn this place is unbearable. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year you miserable SOB's....

Post of the day!

Coursesuper
12-18-2024, 04:02 PM
Damn this place is unbearable. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year you miserable SOB's....

Post of the year!

bulldawg28
12-18-2024, 04:24 PM
Hutzler is a heck of a recruiter. I'm optimistically hopeful his defense catches up. I'm getting excited again.

TrapGame
12-18-2024, 04:34 PM
Hutzler is a heck of a recruiter. I'm optimistically hopeful his defense catches up. I'm getting excited again.

Did you forget these ******?

Seriously though, I will remain optimistic. We could possibly have a good season next year and all this butthurt will just fade away.

Young dawg
12-18-2024, 04:55 PM
Does anyone know what receivers are still out there that we are trying to bring in?

Brobi-wan
12-18-2024, 04:55 PM
Hearing that Texas LB Derion Gullette has committed

I assume this is Blanton’s replacement?

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 04:57 PM
I assume this is Blanton’s replacement?

Stone is coming back. He has another year. Gullette will be a nice depth piece this year that we hope will step into a starting role next year. Having him in a depth role is a lot better than Tobias Hinton or Ty Cooper.

HancockCountyDog
12-18-2024, 05:02 PM
Stone is coming back. He has another year. Gullette will be a nice depth piece this year that we hope will step into a starting role next year. Having him in a depth role is a lot better than Tobias Hinton or Ty Cooper.

Solid depth piece, with a bunch of potential. The naysayers will say that he didn't sniff the field, but fail to acknowledge that Texas has one of the best defenses in the country the last two years, and just because he couldn't see the field doesn't mean he isn't athletic as hell. His HS tape is extremely good.

He has 3 years to play 3, so it's not like he can't get better.

Solid pickup.

Irondawg
12-18-2024, 05:10 PM
Maybe he pans out, maybe he doesn't but his odds are much better than who he's replacing. And that's what we have to do - upgrade the potential in defense and hope the staff can get some of them to produce. Again, we aren't going to be able to attract highly productive players this round. We need to find either guys that are blocked by NFL types and just want to get on the field or people that have produced at lower levels and want to try and step up. Some will bust, but hopefully we hit on a few.

msu15
12-18-2024, 05:22 PM
Having him in a depth role is a lot better than Tobias Hinton or Ty Cooper.

Bingo

BigDawg81
12-18-2024, 06:13 PM
Are we expecting anymore portal commitments tonight? Hayes Fawcett said that there are some notable commitments tonight

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 07:27 PM
I assume this is Blanton?s replacement?

Gullette is another one of those guys that got hurt that we recruit. May or may not play a lot down the road. But hasn't really done squat in 3 years.

Biguglyjoe
12-18-2024, 08:11 PM
Gullette is another one of those guys that got hurt that we recruit. May or may not play a lot down the road. But hasn't really done squat in 3 years.

Is he currently injured?

? The 6-foot-3 and 235-pound outside linebacker spent two seasons at Texas, appearing in five games this fall for the Longhorns. He registered two combined tackles and two defensive stops in 2024. Gullette registered defensive snaps in three games this season, against Colorado State, UTSA, and UL-Monroe.

He also got snaps on special teams with the kickoff coverage unit in four games, including against the Oklahoma Sooners and Florida Gators in SEC play.

Gullette didn't play any games for the Longhorns during his true freshman campaign in 2023, due to the rehab process from a knee injury he suffered before his senior season in high school.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 08:33 PM
This will make some of you happy hopefully. Confirmed visitors for tomorrow:

Justice Finkley-Texas, EDGE
Will Whitson- Coastal Carolina, DL
Jaray Bledsoe- Texas, DL
Kegan Trost-Wake Forest, OT
Kofe Asare- UMASS, Edge



Possibility of a couple of more as well but nothing confirmed as of yet.

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 08:36 PM
We're the point we got to take just about everybody at DL

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 08:40 PM
We're the point we got to take just about everybody at DL

Not even close. A lot of DL still have not entered the portal. We're after some guys on CFP teams, not including the two visiting tomorrow.

msu15
12-18-2024, 08:45 PM
We're the point we got to take just about everybody at DL

Loser post

Chuck3124
12-18-2024, 08:45 PM
What are the chances we get Sydir Mitchell in for a visit?

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 08:59 PM
What are the chances we get Sydir Mitchell in for a visit?

Sounds like he's headed to LSU to reunite with Bo Davis but he'd be a good one to get if you could. You can't teach 6'6. And he's 6'6 350. Be an immediate plug in the middle for us.

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 09:01 PM
Look for us to take a swing at Wazzu transfer CB Stephen Hall. Originally from Memphis and played two seasons at NWCC before heading to the Pallouse

Young dawg
12-18-2024, 09:07 PM
Not really transfer portal related but does anyone know if we are going to attempt to get Booth or Kelly another year of eligibility?

StarkVegasSteve
12-18-2024, 09:33 PM
Not really transfer portal related but does anyone know if we are going to attempt to get Booth or Kelly another year of eligibility?

Well the thing about the Pavia thing is it is just an injunction. I know Booth wants to move on to the NFL. No clue on Kelly.

Cowbell
12-18-2024, 09:59 PM
Every year it seems like we hear that we are about to get a coach that is still coaching and players that are still playing. Hopefully this is the year.

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 10:30 PM
Loser post

Have you seen our loser ass DL? What about the lack of DL recruiting? That's what I thought

Cooterpoot
12-18-2024, 10:31 PM
Not even close. A lot of DL still have not entered the portal. We're after some guys on CFP teams, not including the two visiting tomorrow.

Keep telling yourself that. It's not but 12 teams in the playoffs and guys are already jumping ahead of bowl games. The math doesn't work.

Irondawg
12-19-2024, 01:43 AM
Hardy (rb) commits to Mizzou. I had hoped we would get a visit but his asking price was apparently pretty high.

Bates (OL) to SMU - wasn?t sure if we pushed for a commit or not

StateDawg44
12-19-2024, 08:40 AM
Keep telling yourself that. It's not but 12 teams in the playoffs and guys are already jumping ahead of bowl games. The math doesn't work.

We should have the pick of the litter once the playoff contenders are done and in the portal.**

From playoffs to likely not even bowling.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 08:47 AM
I'm expecting some good news the next couple days but I'll be honest, this version of recruiting is so wild you never really know. I was talking to someone last night about it all and they said just the expense involved with getting kids to come on a visit is wild. These street agents are even worse and a lot of kids are working with them.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 08:49 AM
I'm expecting some good news the next couple days but I'll be honest, this version of recruiting is so wild you never really know.

Possibility we get 3 recruits in next 72 hours.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 08:52 AM
Possibility we get 3 recruits in next 72 hours.

I'm starting feel better about a few things. A few things are still ugly but we knew it would be tough.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 09:00 AM
I'm starting feel better about a few things. A few things are still ugly but we knew it would be tough.

DL is still very concerning. Not EDGE as much as DT. WR is a tad concerning but we have too much to sell at that position for me to have any worry. We are on some good WRs and a couple that are still in the playoffs that just haven't gone in the portal yet.

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 09:12 AM
I'm not worried about WR's. Mississippi is loaded with them and diamonds in the rough are everywhere. Truthfully, if we get/use the big bodies in the middle then our LB's and edges are the key. I like the fact we're addressing those key positions.

We've signed enough big bodies to plug the middle on defense. Get a Rb, some OL, and find some WR's. If/when we do this team can go bowling next year. Yes, the schedule will be tough but there will be drop-off from alot of the teams we play. ASU, Arkansas, Mizzou, Ole Miss, will be winnable games.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 09:15 AM
I'm not 100% there yet but I feel decently confident that Jaray Bledsoe joins the class within the next 48 hours. He and Gullette are very close and I think he knows he can come in and compete for a starting spot day 1 here.

TrapGame
12-19-2024, 09:17 AM
I'm not worried about WR's. Mississippi is loaded with them and diamonds in the rough are everywhere. Truthfully, if we get/use the big bodies in the middle then our LB's and edges are the key. I like the fact we're addressing those key positions.

We've signed enough big bodies to plug the middle on defense. Get a Rb, some OL, and find some WR's. If/when we do this team can go bowling next year. Yes, the schedule will be tough but there will be drop-off from alot of the teams we play. ASU, Arkansas, Mizzou, Ole Miss, will be winnable games.

Lebby and Hutz coaching their asses off next season to scrape and claw to 6 wins is the only way to keep this entire situation from going nuclear and permanently damaging the football brand.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 09:18 AM
Lebby and Hutz coaching their asses off next season to scrape and claw to 6 wins is the only way to keep this entire situation from going nuclear and permanently damaging the football brand.

Well we're already a better football team. I think that in and of itself will get us to 4 wins, Arizona St will be rebuilding and not near the football team they were this year when we still almost beat them. I personally think if you continue to add in the portal, there's 3 SEC games we can pick off next year.

Pancho
12-19-2024, 09:22 AM
I'm not 100% there yet but I feel decently confident that Jaray Bledsoe joins the class within the next 48 hours. He and Gullette are very close and I think he knows he can come in and compete for a starting spot day 1 here.

Bledsoe played RB in high school. 4th and goal guy?

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 09:26 AM
Lebby and Hutz coaching their asses off next season to scrape and claw to 6 wins is the only way to keep this entire situation from going nuclear and permanently damaging the football brand.

I agree. It's on Lebby to find a way to win those games last year they lost by 10 points or less. He should also improve to better starts to win games. I know the defense will be better. It's now on the offense.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 09:27 AM
Bledsoe played RB in high school. 4th and goal guy?

If you can figure out how to use him like Pegues then I'm good with it. If not, we need to find a big bruising back and tell him he's only getting in when we're on the goal line so make the most of it.

Brobi-wan
12-19-2024, 10:00 AM
DL is still very concerning. Not EDGE as much as DT. WR is a tad concerning but we have too much to sell at that position for me to have any worry. We are on some good WRs and a couple that are still in the playoffs that just haven't gone in the portal yet.

I actually thought Moseley was better than the amount we used him for. He was a favorite of mine early on and seemed to fade.

msu15
12-19-2024, 10:03 AM
I actually thought Moseley was better than the amount we used him for. He was a favorite of mine early on and seemed to fade.

The opposition level increased

BigDawg81
12-19-2024, 10:10 AM
Townsend to Ole Miss

Brobi-wan
12-19-2024, 10:15 AM
The opposition level increased

Eh. He had a higher YPC avg and more yards than Kelly A.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 10:18 AM
Eh. He had a higher YPC avg and more yards than Kelly A.

He had 211 yds against EKU and UMASS. He had 194 the other 10 games combined. It wholly had to do with competition. He will get better, but he's still at best a WR2. You really would rather him be a WR3.

We're on some really good WRs. Just have to get them in for visits. A lot of WRs are seeing the numbers for Rivers and Singleton and thinking they are going to get that as well.

Irondawg
12-19-2024, 10:22 AM
Townsend to Ole Miss is disappointing. My bigger concern now is the J. Smith visit to Auburn. That seems to be a guy Hutz really wants and he's going to a place that is really throwing money around this year.

msu15
12-19-2024, 10:28 AM
Eh. He had a higher YPC avg and more yards than Kelly A.

That literally had zero to do with your point. Like I said, the opposition increased and that is why his production declined. Some of you on here are so weird about sticking to your talking point lol.

Brobi-wan
12-19-2024, 10:28 AM
Townsend to Ole Miss is disappointing. My bigger concern now is the J. Smith visit to Auburn. That seems to be a guy Hutz really wants and he's going to a place that is really throwing money around this year.

They’re doing a really good job in the portal, but that’s not new.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 10:31 AM
Townsend to Ole Miss is disappointing. My bigger concern now is the J. Smith visit to Auburn. That seems to be a guy Hutz really wants and he's going to a place that is really throwing money around this year.

They are. I still like where we're at with Smith. Hutzler has recruited him relentless for the past 10 days and our offer is no small potatoes either. It's a really good offer and he sees a chance to contribute immediately. But.....it's Auburn. And the money Jimmy Rane is throwing around this cycle is exponential. I mean we all laughed at the rumor that they offered Arnold 2.5 million, myself included. But now it seems more reality that was the offer. So could they make an offer that is too good to turn down? Yes. Do I think they will? No. I think it'll be a good offer, but I still think we will have the better offer and more attractive situation.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 10:33 AM
They’re doing a really good job in the portal, but that’s not new.

No it is new. They did a terrible job last year and under Harsin they were worse. Hugh is Rane's guy and he knows if they don't go 9-3 or better WITH A WIN OVER BAMA then Hugh is fired. And that means Rane doesn't get a say in the next hire. It will be another booster group because that's how they do it over there.

Brobi-wan
12-19-2024, 10:44 AM
No it is new. They did a terrible job last year and under Harsin they were worse. Hugh is Rane's guy and he knows if they don't go 9-3 or better WITH A WIN OVER BAMA then Hugh is fired. And that means Rane doesn't get a say in the next hire. It will be another booster group because that's how they do it over there.

My bad if I replied to the wrong post. I mean scUM regarding Townsend

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 11:17 AM
BOOM. Hell of a job by Coleman.

BigDawg81
12-19-2024, 11:25 AM
BOOM. Hell of a job by Coleman. Smith is a Dawg
Good job Coleman

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 11:42 AM
The LB room is the strongest we've got. Now Hutz has to get our edge guy and find us some DL and CB because the rest of that staff is floundering. I do think we get the edge and our NG soon.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 11:46 AM
The LB room is the strongest we've got. Now Hutz has to get our edge guy and find us some DL and CB because the rest of that staff is floundering. I do think we get the edge and our NG soon.

I think we start to see the DL and DB rooms take shape within the next 48-72 hours. Still pretty confident we are getting 3 more commits before Sunday. Was actually not expecting this one until next week.

Op4isabitch
12-19-2024, 11:47 AM
Becoming apparent why he wasn’t let go after the season.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 11:51 AM
Becoming apparent why he wasn’t let go after the season.

Recruiting was never going to be a problem with Coleman. He just had to get the talent here. All our defensive rooms are better today than they were on November 30th.

Op4isabitch
12-19-2024, 11:53 AM
It’ll be fun to see what happens with this talent. Good players make great coaches.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 11:56 AM
It’ll be fun to see what happens with this talent. Good players make great coaches.

We still need 2 more WRs, 2 more OLs, AT LEAST 2 more DT, another EDGE, and another CB. We are off to a hell of a start, but we can't rest on being the 5th ranked portal class on December 19th.

Irondawg
12-19-2024, 11:59 AM
really good work on getting Smith in. We've got guys with talent there - just need to produce.

KB21
12-19-2024, 12:03 PM
An underrated plus to the recent defensive recruiting. When you add talent like Derion Gullette and Jalen Smith, this means guys like Nic Mitchell will be essentially special teams only guys. Nic played his ass off this year, but he's just not good enough to start. He should be a good depth piece and a strong special teamer. Same goes at safety, where we aren't relying on guys like Hunter Washington to start any longer. Hunter can now throw his body around on special teams, and you don't have to worry about him turning and running with a WR.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 12:08 PM
An underrated plus to the recent defensive recruiting. When you add talent like Derion Gullette and Jalen Smith, this means guys like Nic Mitchell will be essentially special teams only guys. Nic played his ass off this year, but he's just not good enough to start. He should be a good depth piece and a strong special teamer. Same goes at safety, where we aren't relying on guys like Hunter Washington to start any longer. Hunter can now throw his body around on special teams, and you don't have to worry about him turning and running with a WR.

Well and now you don't have guys like Brylan Lanier playing out of position. Or having to move a guy like Brandon Jennings all over the place.

msu15
12-19-2024, 12:16 PM
Recruiting was never going to be a problem with Coleman. He just had to get the talent here. All our defensive rooms are better today than they were on November 30th.

I hear you man but we 100% lost the ASU and Florida games due to scheme. I'll chalk those up to being a new DC for now. Those performances can never happen again.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 12:20 PM
I hear you man but we 100% lost the ASU and Florida games due to scheme. I'll chalk those up to being a new DC for now. Those performances can never happen again.

ASU was scheme. I won't put Florida completely on scheme. We had some schematic breakdowns, but we got no pressure on the QB that game. I know everyone remembers that game from the video of the play where we had no one over the RG and RT but that was one play. It didn't decide the game.

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 12:37 PM
The LB room is the strongest we've got. Now Hutz has to get our edge guy and find us some DL and CB because the rest of that staff is floundering. I do think we get the edge and our NG soon.

We've signed two edge guys. NIU guy & NC State guy are edges rushers

KB21
12-19-2024, 12:37 PM
ASU was scheme. I won't put Florida completely on scheme. We had some schematic breakdowns, but we got no pressure on the QB that game. I know everyone remembers that game from the video of the play where we had no one over the RG and RT but that was one play. It didn't decide the game.

ASU wasn't really a scheme loss. The defense gave up 23 offensive points in that game. If we don't fumble and let them scoop and score, we probably win that game. Now, I know some look at the rushing numbers from that game and cry bloody murder, but the fact remains all that running production produced just 23 points.

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 12:38 PM
Well and now you don't have guys like Brylan Lanier playing out of position. Or having to move a guy like Brandon Jennings all over the place.

Lanier going to corner will be big. He came on as the year progressed

TrapGame
12-19-2024, 12:41 PM
ASU wasn't really a scheme loss. The defense gave up 23 offensive points in that game. If we don't fumble and let them scoop and score, we probably win that game. Now, I know some look at the rushing numbers from that game and cry bloody murder, but the fact remains all that running production produced just 23 points.

That molasses slow start on offense allowed Skittle Do to do his thing. We have longer drives early and put a TD on the board first and it's a different ball game.

Op4isabitch
12-19-2024, 12:45 PM
Whoever names the very next player and position to commit will get a free year to Elitedawgs courtesy of me. ( I got my Christmas bonus ).

Brobi-wan
12-19-2024, 12:45 PM
Lanier going to corner will be big. He came on as the year progressed

I hope he makes me forget that sorry ass play he had against Georgia. Woof

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 12:48 PM
I hope he makes me forget that sorry ass play he had against Georgia. Woof

He will.

KB21
12-19-2024, 01:36 PM
Malik Murphy to Oregon State. That kid should have stayed at Duke.

Coursesuper
12-19-2024, 01:42 PM
Malik Murphy to Oregon State. That kid should have stayed at Duke.

Freezus strikes again.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 01:43 PM
Malik Murphy to Oregon State. That kid should have stayed at Duke.

I truly think Auburn pulled the rug from under him. I think that's where he was going to go and then Arnold committed and Auburn pulled the offer. I had also heard Kentucky was in the running. This could also be a situation where he's committing to have a spot and will open it back up if another team inquires.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 01:46 PM
Recruiting was never going to be a problem with Coleman. He just had to get the talent here. All our defensive rooms are better today than they were on November 30th.

LB and Safety are better, the rest isn't really upgraded much if at all

KB21
12-19-2024, 01:48 PM
I truly think Auburn pulled the rug from under him. I think that's where he was going to go and then Arnold committed and Auburn pulled the offer. I had also heard Kentucky was in the running. This could also be a situation where he's committing to have a spot and will open it back up if another team inquires.

Kentucky took Calzada over him.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 01:49 PM
LB and Safety are better, the rest isn't really upgraded much if at all

They're definitely upgraded. If we had a Jahron Manning, Tony Mitchell, or even a Jayven Williams we are much better in the back end. Now that's not saying much since we were so bad, but we have upgraded. Same thing with DL, the guys we have are upgrades but that's a low bar to set.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 01:49 PM
We've signed two edge guys. NIU guy & NC State guy are edges rushers

Hibbler is a DE, NIU guy is nothing more than depth

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 01:50 PM
Lanier going to corner will be big. He came on as the year progressed

Lanier is a Safety, he can't handle CB

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 01:52 PM
Kentucky took Calzada over him.

I don't understand that one. They took a shorter version of Brock Vandagriff. Calzada is probably a little better, but not much. I still wonder what they're going to do with Vandagriff. I've seen everything from retiring from football to he's ready to compete and win the job next year.

Cooterpoot
12-19-2024, 01:52 PM
They're definitely upgraded. If we had a Jahron Manning, Tony Mitchell, or even a Jayven Williams we are much better in the back end. Now that's not saying much since we were so bad, but we have upgraded. Same thing with DL, the guys we have are upgrades but that's a low bar to set.

Love those two rooms and the depth. CB, DL, and Edge is where we're about to attack. I won't worry about the offensive side right now. I think Lebby will get some guys there.

KB21
12-19-2024, 01:52 PM
Hibbler is a DE, NIU guy is nothing more than depth

Hibbler is an immediate starting DE. Sanders is a better pass rusher than anyone we could put on the field last year. Yes, he's going to be a situational pass rusher, but there is a role for those guys. Particularly when you can reduce Red Hibbler inside on passing downs and put a pass rusher like Sanders out there.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 01:52 PM
Lanier is a Safety, he can't handle CB

Correct. That is what I was trying to say earlier. Lanier was playing out of position at corner. Never needed to be there.

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 01:53 PM
Love those two rooms and the depth. CB, DL, and Edge is where we're about to attack. I won't worry about the offensive side right now. I think Lebby will get some guys there.

Agreed. And I do agree we need to attack the DL and DB room. Agree on offense as well. We'll get receivers to come play, even if we have to wait for the spring window.

HancockCountyDog
12-19-2024, 01:54 PM
I truly think Auburn pulled the rug from under him. I think that's where he was going to go and then Arnold committed and Auburn pulled the offer. I had also heard Kentucky was in the running. This could also be a situation where he's committing to have a spot and will open it back up if another team inquires.

This is what I would call bad advice from whatever bullsh!t agency he went to that is probably a 22 year old kid that used to be a runner for a sports agency, and now is a full blown "advisor".

StarkVegasSteve
12-19-2024, 01:55 PM
This is what I would call bad advice from whatever bullsh!t agency he went to that is probably a 22 year old kid that used to be a runner for a sports agency, and now is a full blown "advisor".

His dad is apparently an advisor as well. I do agree that he got bad advice though. I think he tried to shake Duke down and they decided they'd rather have Mensah than be shaken down by Murphy

HancockCountyDog
12-19-2024, 01:55 PM
Love those two rooms and the depth. CB, DL, and Edge is where we're about to attack. I won't worry about the offensive side right now. I think Lebby will get some guys there.

Do you let someone else have access to your account? I'm genuinely asking. I swear one day it seems you want to burn the whole coaching staff to the ground, the next day or sometimes same day you seem to think we are headed in the right direction and give the coaching staff plenty of credit.