2025 Transfer Portal Thread

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can we pay him to not visit Auburn?

We could. Will we? I do not know. It might be even sweeter now if Zenitz put it out there he was visiting.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So Freeze knows the chances of getting Arnold are pretty much zero but he's making a power move to get Salter's attention?

Sounds like a Freeze move.

Yep. It is a complete Hugh Freeze move. He is going to end up with a good QB. But it will not be Jackson Arnold.

[HancockCountyDog]

What is amazing is the AU people are freaking out thinking that Arnold is their QB1 portal target. They do NOT want him. They really believe that they were going to sign some Cam Ward type QB and now reality is setting in.

I hope Arnold realizes that one fan base will be happy with him, another will be wanting him benched at the first sign of trouble, and Hugh has no problem throwing a QB under a bunch of buses.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What is amazing is the AU people are freaking out thinking that Arnold is their QB1 portal target. They do NOT want him. They really believe that they were going to sign some Cam Ward type QB and now reality is setting in.

I hope Arnold realizes that one fan base will be happy with him, another will be wanting him benched at the first sign of trouble, and Hugh has no problem throwing a QB under a bunch of buses.

Don't think he's not been shown all of the Bo Wallace tweets about Freeze. This was not out of left field. We knew this was coming.

[StarkVegasSteve]

In other transfer portal news, Rodney Groce is transferring.......again. Will be on his 5th school with 2 years of eligibility to go.

[msstate7]

What is amazing is the AU people are freaking out thinking that Arnold is their QB1 portal target. They do NOT want him. They really believe that they were going to sign some Cam Ward type QB and now reality is setting in.

I hope Arnold realizes that one fan base will be happy with him, another will be wanting him benched at the first sign of trouble, and Hugh has no problem throwing a QB under a bunch of buses.

Sheds a little light on the difference in our programs too.

[Really Clark?]

In other transfer portal news, Rodney Groce is transferring.......again. Will be on his 5th school with 2 years of eligibility to go.

What's the transfer record I wonder? He will be setting it at this rate. He has at least 1 or 2 more left in him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What's the transfer record I wonder? He will be setting it at this rate. He has at least 1 or 2 more left in him.

1 or 2? He'll transfer two times before next fall

[RisperDawg]

1 or 2? He'll transfer two times before next fall

These schools probably like his vertical leap. It was an impressive jump over LSU's punt shield.

[StarkVegasSteve]

These schools probably like his vertical leap. It was an impressive jump over LSU's punt shield.

Did he not also have a stupid personal foul penalty that game too?

[Todd4State]

Did he not also have a stupid personal foul penalty that game too?

Maybe. I thought that was the stupid personal foul penalty.

I remember cringing when he did it. It was an easy call and so unnecessary.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Trevion Barnes, FIU LB, is visiting on Wednesday.

[BigDawg81]

Who are the 8 defensive players that are visting? I know a couple but not everyone.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Preston Stone from SMU has entered the portal. This is one I expect a few SEC schools, including Auburn, to go after. Before Arnold was replaced at OU, this is a guy we were in discussions through back channels with.

[Brobi-wan]

Is MVB waiting to see if Arnold commits before throwing his name in?

[Young dawg]

Really liking a lot of the guys that we seem to be targeting early!

[LebbroDog]

The X formerly known as Twitters say that Maalik Murphy is visiting Auburn this weekend. Guess Brotha Hugh is just going to bring them all in for a sermon

[KB21]

Malik Murphy is visiting Auburn.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Malik Murphy is visiting Auburn.

They were one of the ones on him and there's some smoke that Hugh really wants him over Salter. Seems to be less and less belief that Fifita is open to a move to the south. I haven't spoken with anyone in that circle with Auburn that would know but just reading some of the tea leaves it really seems like Freeze has zeroed in on Murphy and I know Murphy wants in the SEC.

Also, Murphy's visit is tomorrow. It would seem less and less likely that the Arnold visit happens. I know the family doesn't want to go somewhere that's bringing in 2 or 3 QBs to battle it out, especially in a system Jackson is not familiar with. Hugh seems like he's going to bring in multiple guys. The Stanford guy is heavily rumored to have already basically committed.

[Bdawg]

So Freeze knows the chances of getting Arnold are pretty much zero but he's making a power move to get Salter's attention?

Sounds like a Freeze move.

Pretty smart if you can spend 25k, to save 200k(random figure) later.

[civildawg]

Freeze is going after everyone apparently

[StarkVegasSteve]

Freeze is going after everyone apparently

Well yea.....I mean if your QBs were Peyton Thorne, Hank Brown, and Walker White you'd be offering every portal QB with a pulse. Funny story, they went hard after Shapen last year and thought they had him late. He almost committed to Hugh when he was at OM and they thought they had him the second time around.

[StarkVegasSteve]

May have been reported already, but Joseph Williams (Tulsa WR) is visiting this week.

[Bdawg]

Freeze is going after everyone apparently

They need to!!

[KB21]

May have been reported already, but Joseph Williams (Tulsa WR) is visiting this week.

Interesting. I saw it reported somewhere else that he hadn't had any contact with us.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Interesting. I saw it reported somewhere else that he hadn't had any contact with us.

Chad and Jeff are keeping our WR targets under wraps. They don't really want Steve or Paul reporting who we're after. They drove up the price on a few last year and priced us out.

[Brobi-wan]

I tried to post this earlier but not sure if my service wouldn?t let it go through. I apologize if it did and I?m double posting. Is MVB waiting on an official commitment to enter the portal? I can?t find anything showing him in, but we have him in on the thread.

[KB21]

FWIW, Jahron Manning is PFF's 15th highest graded safety this year. He had an 86.8 defensive grade.

Clev Lubin from Coastal Carolina is PFF's 18th highest graded edge player. he had an 86.1 defensive grade.

Chris Murray from Sam Houston State is PFF's 52nd highest graded edge player with a 78.8 defensive grade.

Nyjalik Kelly from UCF is 58th among edges. His grade is 78.4.

Travion Barnes is 40th among linebackers with a 78.8 grade.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I tried to post this earlier but not sure if my service wouldn?t let it go through. I apologize if it did and I?m double posting. Is MVB waiting on an official commitment to enter the portal? I can?t find anything showing him in, but we have him in on the thread.

I took him off the list. I think he's waiting for the official report before he does. I also think he's realizing he doesn't have as many suiters as he originally thought he did.

[StarkVegasSteve]

FWIW, Jahron Manning is PFF's 15th highest graded safety this year. He had an 86.8 defensive grade.

Clev Lubin from Coastal Carolina is PFF's 18th highest graded edge player. he had an 86.1 defensive grade.

Chris Murray from Sam Houston State is PFF's 52nd highest graded edge player with a 78.8 defensive grade.

Nyjalik Kelly from UCF is 58th among edges. His grade is 78.4.

Travion Barnes is 40th among linebackers with a 78.8 grade.

I would expect REAL GOOD news regarding Manning within the next 12-18 hours.

[KB21]

Are we looking at Broadarius Lewis at all?

[DEDawg]

Malik Murphy is visiting Auburn.

I know it?s a basketball school, but insane that Duke won?t just pay whatever insane amount of money it takes to keep their star QB. That alumni base is swimming in it.

[DEDawg]

FWIW, Jahron Manning is PFF's 15th highest graded safety this year. He had an 86.8 defensive grade.

Clev Lubin from Coastal Carolina is PFF's 18th highest graded edge player. he had an 86.1 defensive grade.

Chris Murray from Sam Houston State is PFF's 52nd highest graded edge player with a 78.8 defensive grade.

Nyjalik Kelly from UCF is 58th among edges. His grade is 78.4.

Travion Barnes is 40th among linebackers with a 78.8 grade.
Open the damn check book and get it done. We could flip the defense in a week. Crazy times

[KB21]

I took him off the list. I think he's waiting for the official report before he does. I also think he's realizing he doesn't have as many suiters as he originally thought he did.

I think his best bet is to return, probably redshirt a year behind Arnold and Shapen, and then either make a move in 2026 or compete for the job. He decommitted from Oregon to play for Jeff Lebby for a reason.

[KB21]

I'm noticing that the portal is kind of thin when it comes to interior defensive linemen this year, which is bad for us because we need it. I think it is very obvious that the coaching staff has prioritized pass rushers though.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think his best bet is to return, probably redshirt a year behind Arnold and Shapen, and then either make a move in 2026 or compete for the job. He decommitted from Oregon to play for Jeff Lebby for a reason.

The problem, for him at least, is that if he returns then he knows we are going to low ball him because we can. If I were him and there was no doubt in my mind Jackson Arnold was coming, I would go to somewhere like Duke and put some good stuff on the film at the ACC level and then try to come back to the SEC, a la Maalik Murphy.

Here is the other thing, Van Buren cannot beat out Shapen.

[Offshore Dawg]

I know it?s a basketball school, but insane that Duke won?t just pay whatever insane amount of money it takes to keep their star QB. That alumni base is swimming in it.

And not every alumnus will pay for players just to say Ha-ha "WE" beat you.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm noticing that the portal is kind of thin when it comes to interior defensive linemen this year, which is bad for us because we need it. I think it is very obvious that the coaching staff has prioritized pass rushers though.

Well the problem is that there is a bunch of them who think they are going to get Dylan Stewart money when they are actually going to get about 1/3 of that.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And not every alumnus will pay for players just to say Ha-ha "WE" beat you.

They should. That is exactly what got SMU relevant in a damn HURRY.

[DEDawg]

And not every alumnus will pay for players just to say Ha-ha "WE" beat you.

What argument are you trying to make here? That MSU is all in on NIL but Duke alumnus wont play the game? There is a very vocal group of state fans just on here who have white knighted themselves into being morally superior and never supporting NIL. Doesnt change the fact the Duke fan base that is willing to donate will have more money than the MSU fan base that is willing to donate.

[KB21]

MVB is in the portal.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Duke fans only care about basketball. They just use football as something to watch until November. Their alum are going to put money towards basketball and not pay a football player that much.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Van Buren now officially in. I have added him back to the list.

[KB21]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/EXrAVx-p_isAAAAd/jackson-arnold-jeff-lebby.gif

[Bdawg]

Got to get Arnold! No screwing around. Go get your guy Lebby!

[KB21]

Got to get Arnold! No screwing around. Go get your guy Lebby!

I don't think Lebby let's MVB walk without knowing he has Arnold.

[Bothrops]

I don't think Lebby let's MVB walk without knowing he has Arnold.

Can't know you have Arnold if he's making a stop in Auburn first.

[Bdawg]

I don't think Lebby let's MVB walk without knowing he has Arnold.

He better have him. Would like to see him cancel that AU visit but I guess I would go get that 25k too. Lebby is not going to look very smart if this goes south.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He better have him. Would like to see him cancel that AU visit but I guess I would go get that 25k too. Lebby is not going to look very smart if this goes south.

Lebby would not let Van Buren walk if he even thought there was a 1% chance of this going south.

[chef dixon]

It's clear Lebby has his ducks in a row for the portal this year

[LC Dawg]

They should. That is exactly what got SMU relevant in a damn HURRY.

It's also what got them the death penalty.
It's wild that this shit is legal now.

[bulldawg28]

Lebby would not let Van Buren walk if he even thought there was a 1% chance of this going south.

That's the hope but Lebby can't stop it. Most of these kids are privileged now and until the NIL situation settles we'll have this.

[msstate7]

I don't like the Auburn visit. If Arnold is our guy and we have a deal lined up, just add 25k to it to cancel visit and commit.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Something big is expected tomorrow I believe. I saw where Robertson was planning on going to Mobile for MS/AL stuff and has cancelled his visit. If it was just Manning or one of the other ones he would still go.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't like the Auburn visit. If Arnold is our guy and we have a deal lined up, just add 25k to it to cancel visit and commit.

Auburn is also bringing in like 5 other QBs. You people are acting like Arnold is the only QB they are targeting.

[TrapGame]

Auburn is also bringing in like 5 other QBs. You people are acting like Arnold is the only QB they are targeting.

LOL! You should be used to it by now. The sky is always falling around here.

[Chuck3124]

Can anyone confirm that TN LB Jalen Smith Will be in for a visit on Thursday?

[msstate7]

Auburn is also bringing in like 5 other QBs. You people are acting like Arnold is the only QB they are targeting.

The whole point is why even take a chance on it affecting this recruitment. I assume he will get at least 900k from us, so 25k around 2.8% of his deal. Just seems it makes more sense to pay that for a shut down.

[Really Clark?]

Can anyone confirm that TN LB Jalen Smith Will be in for a visit on Thursday?

Yes, that's his plan right now

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can anyone confirm that TN LB Jalen Smith Will be in for a visit on Thursday?

Yea he is visiting. Staff was kind of trying to keep that one under wraps a little but no sense in it now. He is visiting tomorrow night and Thursday.

[Really Clark?]

Yea he is visiting. Staff was kind of trying to keep that one under wraps a little but no sense in it now. He is visiting tomorrow night and Thursday.

Yes someone leaked it and it got out on X

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yes someone leaked it and it got out on X

Well the kid himself leaked it I believe. I will give it to Robertson and Jones, they shut the hell up about it. I found out yesterday about it but no one would confirm it. We have a shot at this one, not saying we will get him or we are in the lead but we have a shot. Getting them to visit is generally the first step.

[Really Clark?]

Well the kid himself leaked it I believe. I will give it to Robertson and Jones, they shut the hell up about it. I found out yesterday about it but no one would confirm it. We have a shot at this one, not saying we will get him or we are in the lead but we have a shot. Getting them to visit is generally the first step.

I thought someone else did and he retwitted it? But I may be wrong. Doesn't matter it's out now. Always a great first step to get them to visit. He will be sought after.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I thought someone else did and he retwitted it? But I may be wrong. Doesn't matter it's out now. Always a great first step to get them to visit. He will be sought after.

He will be. It would be really big to get him because I think he could get us in the game with the Tennessee corner.

[Really Clark?]

He will be. It would be really big to get him because I think he could get us in the game with the Tennessee corner.

Right, would love to get either one but both...BOOM

[bulldawg28]

He will be. It would be really big to get him because I think he could get us in the game with the Tennessee corner.

Which TN corner?

[Really Clark?]

Which TN corner?

Jordan Matthews

[bulldawg28]

Jordan Matthews

Thanks

[Chuck3124]

I just find it really strange and super odd that Steve just decides to change plans and decide not to attend MS/AL game tomorrow at 9:30/10

[Todd4State]

I just find it really strange and super odd that Steve just decides to change plans and decide not to attend MS/AL game tomorrow at 9:30/10

Going to be an absolutely huge visit week for MSU obviously. Would be a little harder to get intel on Mobile vs Starkville if I had to guess.

Plus with the portal I don't think coaches are really looking for that late bloomer Diamond in the rough that emerges during all star game practices anymore.

[BankerDog]

Jordan Matthews

The same Jordan Matthews that was committed to us and flipped two weeks before NSD?

[KB21]

Who was it that mentioned earlier in the thread that Coleman Hutzler did not like his linebacker unit this past season? The number of edges and linebackers they are bringing in certainly supports that.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who was it that mentioned earlier in the thread that Coleman Hutzler did not like his linebacker unit this past season? The number of edges and linebackers they are bringing in certainly supports that.

BankerDog has told me that multiple times.

[msu15]

Who was it that mentioned earlier in the thread that Coleman Hutzler did not like his linebacker unit this past season? The number of edges and linebackers they are bringing in certainly supports that.

Can you blame him? The lack of speed was glaring.

[KB21]

Can you blame him? The lack of speed was glaring.

The lack of speed was apparent, but the inability to tackle in the open field was glaring as well. We also didn't have anyone who could win one on ones on the edge as rushers.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The lack of speed was apparent, but the inability to tackle in the open field was glaring as well. We also didn't have anyone who could win one on ones on the edge as rushers.

I keep thinking of John Lewis straight up whiffing on 3rd and 9 against Texas. I think we were down 14-6 at the time and had them deep in their own territory.

[Cowbell]

I keep thinking of John Lewis straight up whiffing on 3rd and 9 against Texas. I think we were down 14-6 at the time and had them deep in their own territory.

Plays like that make me concerned for the coaching as well, but hope I'm wrong. It happened over and over

[KB21]

Jeff is keeping these WR visits under wraps. Pete Thamel is reporting that we are getting Jaron Glover of Michigan State in for a visit.

[Really Clark?]

Jeff is keeping these WR visits under wraps. Pete Thamel is reporting that we are getting Jaron Glover of Michigan State in for a visit.

He's trying to keep a good number of visits quite.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jeff is keeping these WR visits under wraps. Pete Thamel is reporting that we are getting Jaron Glover of Michigan State in for a visit.

We're trying to keep them from Robertson, Jones, Faulk, and Hadad. Bumphis has been read the riot act about feeding info to those guys so he's stopped completely.

[KB21]

We're trying to keep them from Robertson, Jones, Faulk, and Hadad. Bumphis has been read the riot act about feeding info to those guys so he's stopped completely.

Just curious. Was there anyone in particular that we didn't get because of this last year?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just curious. Was there anyone in particular that we didn't get because of this last year?

There were a few visits that got leaked that ended up not happening. A couple of the Ohio ST DBs and there was a receiver that got leaked as well, I think it was Ja'Corey Brooks but don't quote me on that.

[Cowbell]

We're trying to keep them from Robertson, Jones, Faulk, and Hadad. Bumphis has been read the riot act about feeding info to those guys so he's stopped completely.

I never understood why he leaked info to begin with. Especially to those guys. Nothing good came from it

[StarkVegasSteve]

I never understood why he leaked info to begin with. Especially to those guys. Nothing good came from it

Because Brian and him used to be in the same podcast network and got to be friends between Chad retiring from football and getting into coaching. He would always feed them info from Dan's staff because he still knew everyone. So that's why they were pushing so hard for 3 years to get him on staff because he'd feed them info. I still think he was the leak on the Briles thing and you'll never be able to convince me otherwise.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So much for Duke not wanting to pay. Darian Mensah to Duke. A HUGE coup for Manny and Co. with that one. He had a lot of high end programs trying to bring him in for a visit.

[confucius say]

The lack of speed was apparent, but the inability to tackle in the open field was glaring as well. We also didn't have anyone who could win one on ones on the edge as rushers.

Which is why I can be okay with staying with Hutzler. It is hard for me to know if he can do the job or not given the lack of talent we had in 2024.

[confucius say]

So much for Duke not wanting to pay. Darian Mensah to Duke. A HUGE coup for Manny and Co. with that one. He had a lot of high end programs trying to bring him in for a visit.

Can he play in the Gator Bowl, lol

[Really Clark?]

So much for Duke not wanting to pay. Darian Mensah to Duke. A HUGE coup for Manny and Co. with that one. He had a lot of high end programs trying to bring him in for a visit.

Manny got a hold of some left over basketball money. Lol

[StarkVegasSteve]

DT Sheffield visiting over the weekend. I expect we lock that down and have our Craver "replacement". I say it like that because he's better than Craver.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can he play in the Gator Bowl, lol

I'm not kidding when I say this, do they have a QB on the roster for that game? Or are they just going to run wildcat?

[bigbub50]

Where is rara going to land next season?

[Cowbell]

Where is rara going to land next season?

Jail

[confucius say]

I'm not kidding when I say this, do they have a QB on the roster for that game? Or are they just going to run wildcat?

I think it's some guy who has never played before. Saw an article about it yesterday. Woof.

[confucius say]

Where is rara going to land next season?

Probably prison

[Cowbell]

Because Brian and him used to be in the same podcast network and got to be friends between Chad retiring from football and getting into coaching. He would always feed them info from Dan's staff because he still knew everyone. So that's why they were pushing so hard for 3 years to get him on staff because he'd feed them info. I still think he was the leak on the Briles thing and you'll never be able to convince me otherwise.

I gotcha - I never realized that on the podcast Del bit understood they were friends. I have good friends in my industry but dang sure don't tell them things they don't have to know unless it helps the brand

[DEDawg]

Mansoor Delane, CB from VT just entered the portal. i would hope we are all over this guy. Instant replacement and upgrade for Pollack

[StarkVegasSteve]

Rivals national guy is basically conceding that we are landing Arnold.

[Really Clark?]

Mansoor Delane, CB from VT just entered the portal. i would hope we are all over this guy. Instant replacement and upgrade for Pollack

I would love to have him but don't think we will be fishing in that pond. Or rather I don't think he will let us fish for him. I know several think Deon is on him

[StarkVegasSteve]

Mansoor Delane, CB from VT just entered the portal. i would hope we are all over this guy. Instant replacement and upgrade for Pollack

Would be a massive pickup and a day 1 starter. I think we are fishing in more the Raion Strader pool, who btw would also be a day 1 starter.

[KB21]

Rivals national guy is basically conceding that we are landing Arnold.

I bet they hate that too.

[civildawg]

What's the deal with keeping visits secret? I guess I don't get it. I would think you would want everyone to know high profile players are visiting

[KB21]

Steve has alluded to this on here with regards to Jackson Arnold, but I saw where Steve Robertson said that he's heard from agency folks that people are watching his recruitment, and that he will bring players with him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What's the deal with keeping visits secret? I guess I don't get it. I would think you would want everyone to know high profile players are visiting

Well let’s say you found a diamond in the rough type player like Javonnie Gibson at UAPB. Do you really want it getting back to Auburn, South Carolina, or Ole Miss and drive the price up.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Joshua Bates, OU center, is visiting this weekend. Trying to set him and Jackson up at the same time. I would expect Jackson to get here late Thursday-early Friday morning.

[Op4isabitch]

I’m good with Thursday night, no need for him to stay the night in Reverend Hughes vicinity.

[Cowbell]

What's the deal with keeping visits secret? I guess I don't get it. I would think you would want everyone to know high profile players are visiting

What if you are offering multiple high profile players at the same position? And do you really want rivals to know who all and how much you are offering...

[Chuck3124]

PJ woodland is in the portal now!

[Todd4State]

PJ woodland is in the portal now!

Got his LSU swag. Now he can come home.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Kevin Coleman gone to Mizzou. Bad loss. No matter how you look at it.

[KB21]

We know why they are bringing in several portal WRs now. This is the first loss that really stinks.

[Brobi-wan]

That’s a bummer

[bulldawg28]

Kevin Coleman gone to Mizzou. Bad loss. No matter how you look at it.

Lebby may not make it unless he has some solutions....

[DEDawg]

Kevin Coleman gone to Mizzou. Bad loss. No matter how you look at it.

Wtf. I can understand a blue blood but Missouri?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lebby may not make it unless he has some solutions....

That's the first loss that really stings. We knew Drinkwitz and Mizzou were sniffing around. Coleman wanted to go there last off season but they didn't offer him. They're selling him on being their Luther Burden next year. Look for them to also make a play for Van Buren.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Wtf. I can understand a blue blood but Missouri?

He's from St. Louis.

[Brobi-wan]

Wtf. I can understand a blue blood but Missouri?

Heading home. It’s a move that really makes sense for him to be fair. Hard to win that kind of battle.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Guys this is just a Zavion situation. And it's going to end up exactly like the Zavion situation. He'll go from 74/932/6 to 43/370/2

[HancockCountyDog]

Wtf. I can understand a blue blood but Missouri?

Mizzou has won 20 games last two seasons. We live in a what have you done for me recently society. In his eyes he just went from the doormat of the SEC to a chance to compete for a playoff spot next season.

I don't think he is right, but damn how many players do we have left that someone may come get? There were only a handful of players on the roster worth keeping and MVB, Pollack, Craver and Coleman were 4 of them.

Hope this doesn't affect Arnold.

[Young dawg]

So who are we thinking could be a potential replacement for Coleman. Hate losing him, but have to think that should be one of the easier positions for Lebby to recruit.

[bulldawg28]

That's the first loss that really stings. We knew Drinkwitz and Mizzou were sniffing around. Coleman wanted to go there last off season but they didn't offer him. They're selling him on being their Luther Burden next year. Look for them to also make a play for Van Buren.

I'll take your word on this situation.

[HancockCountyDog]

Guys this is just a Zavion situation. And it's going to end up exactly like the Zavion situation. He'll go from 74/932/6 to 43/370/2

Yeah - but that just sucks for us. Because if the situation stays the same, then we end up going 3-9 or 4-8 next season.

[BankerDog]

I?m glad we aren?t overpaying for kids on a 2-10 team.

Also- I question someone?s manhood who goes to a school that passes you up out of high school and last years transfer portal. First Zavion and then Coleman and to an extent-Craver.

[msstate7]

We're so screwed. When we have to worry about mid-SEC teams taking our stars, I can't see a path back.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I?m glad we aren?t overpaying for kids on a 2-10 team.

Also- I question someone?s manhood who goes to a school that passes you up out of high school and last years transfer portal. First Zavion and then Coleman and to an extent-Craver.

You forgot they also passed him up when he left JSU to go to Louisville.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We're so screwed. When we have to worry about mid-SEC teams taking our stars, I can't see a path back.

"Mid-Level"......dude they are 20-5 in the last two years. That's not mid level.

[msstate7]

"Mid-Level"......dude they are 20-5 in the last two years. That's not mid level.

Ok, mizzou is top level of the sec.

[BankerDog]

We're so screwed. When we have to worry about mid-SEC teams taking our stars, I can't see a path back.

You also wanted Jans fired.

[msstate7]

You also wanted Jans fired.

I was an idiot. Coleman to mizzou is the equivalent of cam transferring to mizzou in basketball. I would rip Jans for that, too

[msstate7]

A few days ago, I read we were keeping craver and Coleman. Today, we have neither. We are going the wrong direction...

[StarkVegasSteve]

A few days ago, I read we were keeping craver and Coleman. Today, we have neither. We are going the wrong direction...

Dude it's a 17 receiver. We put a more than competitive offer to Coleman and had him. Mizzou came in and offered him a chance to go home. There are 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal AT THIS MOMENT and there's 25 entering every day. This is not a big deal.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah - but that just sucks for us. Because if the situation stays the same, then we end up going 3-9 or 4-8 next season.

I promise that losing Kevin Coleman is not going to win or lose us one game next year. Because we will replace him QUITE EASILY. He's a 17 receiver. This offense creates 65/850/5 TDs like the wishbone creates 1000 yd rushers. And if we didn't have a QB who only knew how to throw a deep ball it would've created more this past year.

[msstate7]

Dude it's a 17 receiver. We put a more than competitive offer to Coleman and had him. Mizzou came in and offered him a chance to go home. There are 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal AT THIS MOMENT and there's 25 entering every day. This is not a big deal.

3rd in sec in receptions
2nd in sec in yards
8th in sec in tds

75 more out there, huh?

[DEDawg]

Dude it's a 17 receiver. We put a more than competitive offer to Coleman and had him. Mizzou came in and offered him a chance to go home. There are 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal AT THIS MOMENT and there's 25 entering every day. This is not a big deal.

Was our cash offer same as theirs? I understand you can?t compete with someone wanting to go home but hopefully we did not get outbid.

[Cowbell]

3rd in sec in receptions
2nd in sec in yards
8th in sec in tds

75 more out there, huh?

He is now 0-2 on predictions

[HancockCountyDog]

Dude it's a 17 receiver. We put a more than competitive offer to Coleman and had him. Mizzou came in and offered him a chance to go home. There are 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal AT THIS MOMENT and there's 25 entering every day. This is not a big deal.

Hang on - that is just crazy talk. There are not 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal. The guy went for 74 catches and 932 yards and 6 TDs in the SEC.

I get you are pissed off, I know I am, but to act like this isn't a body blow is crazy talk. The guy was the third-leading receiver in the SEC. I mean come on man, when you say stuff like this, when we have actual good news how are you going to have any credibility?

This isn't Craver, this is most likely a first team pre-season ALL SEC WR next year.

[DEDawg]

Hang on - that is just crazy talk. There are not 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal. The guy went for 74 catches and 932 yards and 6 TDs in the SEC.

I get you are pissed off, I know I am, but to act like this isn't a body blow is crazy talk. The guy was the third-leading receiver in the SEC. I mean come on man, when you say stuff like this, when we have actual good news how are you going to have any credibility?

This isn't Craver, this is most likely a first team pre-season ALL SEC WR next year.

Yeah realistically there are 5-6 and my guess is we do not get one. Anderson seems to be the best guy we?re on and I would not say he is Coleman level (yet).

Anyway, not feeling good on JA. I get we have all these connections and family and stuff but dont ever forget we are still MSU.

[StarkVegasSteve]

3rd in sec in receptions
2nd in sec in yards
8th in sec in tds

75 more out there, huh?

Yea. Makai Polk was 17/183/2 the year before he was 105/1036/9. There were 100 Makai Polk's in the portal that year. We almost ended up with another until some transfer rule got in the way. Offenses make receivers 99% of the time. Only elite HOF level receivers make offenses.

[Cowbell]

Hang on - that is just crazy talk. There are not 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal. The guy went for 74 catches and 932 yards and 6 TDs in the SEC.

I get you are pissed off, I know I am, but to act like this isn't a body blow is crazy talk. The guy was the third-leading receiver in the SEC. I mean come on man, when you say stuff like this, when we have actual good news how are you going to have any credibility?

This isn't Craver, this is most likely a first team pre-season ALL SEC WR next year.

If there were 75, we wouldn't have to pay him nor would Missouri be trying to outbid us.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hang on - that is just crazy talk. There are not 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal. The guy went for 74 catches and 932 yards and 6 TDs in the SEC.

I get you are pissed off, I know I am, but to act like this isn't a body blow is crazy talk. The guy was the third-leading receiver in the SEC. I mean come on man, when you say stuff like this, when we have actual good news how are you going to have any credibility?

This isn't Craver, this is most likely a first team pre-season ALL SEC WR next year.

Ryan Williams, Cayden Lee, Aaron Anderson, Matthew Golden, Isaiah Bond, Cam Coleman, Keandre Lambert-Smith would all be ahead of him. We're fine. Coleman is a loss and I literally said this one stings, but you just replace him and move on. This isn't a QB, WR is the most replaceable position on the field.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If there were 75, we wouldn't have to pay him nor would Missouri be trying to outbid us.

Missouri didn't outbid us. Not by a longshot.

[msstate7]

Ryan Williams, Cayden Lee, Aaron Anderson, Matthew Golden, Isaiah Bond, Cam Coleman, Keandre Lambert-Smith would all be ahead of him. We're fine. Coleman is a loss and I literally said this one stings, but you just replace him and move on. This isn't a QB, WR is the most replaceable position on the field.

QBs like WRs, and now we have to sell a qb on well, we're gonna get some.

[HancockCountyDog]

Ryan Williams, Cayden Lee, Aaron Anderson, Matthew Golden, Isaiah Bond, Cam Coleman, Keandre Lambert-Smith would all be ahead of him. We're fine. Coleman is a loss and I literally said this one stings, but you just replace him and move on. This isn't a QB, WR is the most replaceable position on the field.

So a Top 4-5 WR in the SEC (I think he is light years ahead of Cayden Lee and Lambert is a senior)?

I agree QB is most important, but we can't spin this as anything except a major loss to our roster.

Now, if we go out and get a big time replacement, great but don't try and sell me that a DT Sheffield from North Texas is just as good as Kevin Coleman.

[Cowbell]

Missouri didn't outbid us. Not by a longshot.

Which makes it worse

[msstate7]

There's no way to spin this but that as a 2-10 team, we've actually went backwards so far. There's clearly time and we have some money, but Lebby is concerning the hell out of me.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He was the best player on a bad team. He won us no games and lost us no games. We will replace him. It is that simple. We did everything we could to keep him. He would have been paid on Tre Harris level and he is not in the same galaxy as Tre Harris. He wanted to go to Mizzou. All there is to it.

[Cowbell]

There's no way to spin this but that as a 2-10 team, we've actually went backwards so far. There's clearly time and we have some money, but Lebby is concerning the hell out of me.

What is worse is our boosters were led to believe that he was locked down

[StarkVegasSteve]

So a Top 4-5 WR in the SEC (I think he is light years ahead of Cayden Lee and Lambert is a senior)?

I agree QB is most important, but we can't spin this as anything except a major loss to our roster.

Now, if we go out and get a big time replacement, great but don't try and sell me that a DT Sheffield from North Texas is just as good as Kevin Coleman.

Cayden Lee may be the best possession receiver in the league and he has great speed. He had zero drops this year. I would take him over Coleman 7 days a week. He is a legit rd. 2-4 WR. Coleman will go to Mizzou and be lucky to go 5-7. It is going to be Zavion Thomas 2.0.

[StarkVegasSteve]

What is worse is our boosters were led to believe that he was locked down

That is because he was. We overpaid by 250K to make sure he stayed. He wanted to go to Mizzou for nothing originally.

[Coursesuper]

Which makes it worse

Why? Y?all are some barn blind individuals. Do you think that Starkvegas was first brought into existence as a compliment, guess what it wasn?t. This is the world we live in today and with free transfers it sucks but you just have to roll with it. Go get the next ones out of the portal until the point of where we get those that want to stay. Some just don?t want to be here in a small town in Mississippi. It is what it is.

[msstate7]

Why? Y?all are some barn blind individuals. Do you think that Starkvegas was first brought into existence as a compliment, guess what it wasn?t. This is the world we live in today and with free transfers it sucks but you just have to roll with it. Go get the next ones out of the portal until the point of where we get those that want to stay. Some just don?t want to be here in a small town in Mississippi. It is what it is.

If we can't beat the likes of mizzou by outbidding them, it's a bad omen.

[Cowbell]

Why? Y?all are some barn blind individuals. Do you think that Starkvegas was first brought into existence as a compliment, guess what it wasn?t. This is the world we live in today and with free transfers it sucks but you just have to roll with it. Go get the next ones out of the portal until the point of where we get those that want to stay. Some just don?t want to be here in a small town in Mississippi. It is what it is.

Thanks for bringing me up to speed on how to be satisfied with our current situation

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why? Y?all are some barn blind individuals. Do you think that Starkvegas was first brought into existence as a compliment, guess what it wasn?t. This is the world we live in today and with free transfers it sucks but you just have to roll with it. Go get the next ones out of the portal until the point of where we get those that want to stay. Some just don?t want to be here in a small town in Mississippi. It is what it is.
Thank you for bringing some sanity into this. Guys guess what, we have lost our best receiver every year since 2021. And guess what? We have replaced them every year since 2021. Guess what we’re gonna do in 2025? Replace our best receiver and we won’t miss a beat. It is the nature of this business now. This is why I have been telling people do not get attached to players. You support the program. Name on the front, not name on the back.

[basedog]

Times have changed, gonna get worse. It's not just MSU it's pretty much every colle program. The to c him go but....bye!

[Coursesuper]

Thanks for bringing me up to speed on how to be satisfied with our current situation

Just trying to adjust that po ole Missippy Tate attitude.

[Really Clark?]

If we can't beat the likes of mizzou by outbidding them, it's a bad omen.

NVM

[msstate7]

Just trying to adjust that po ole Missippy Tate attitude.

By saying not everyone wants to be in old boring Starkville?

[msstate7]

NVM

I don't know what thus means, but I'd love for it be some good news. I need it

[Coursesuper]

By saying not everyone wants to be in old boring Starkville?

It?s a fact there hun, we have to work with it everyday. We have to work harder and do more with less everyday but I?m not gonna sit back and go whoa 17 us we will never get over the hump everyone else is better than us like a bunch here. Nope gonna see things like they are and work to make it happen.

[MrCoachKlein]

I don't know what thus means, but I'd love for it be some good news. I need it

nevermind*

[msstate7]

nevermind*

Yeah, just didn't think that fit, so I wasn't sure if it had a 2nd meaning.

[confucius say]

Hang on - that is just crazy talk. There are not 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal. The guy went for 74 catches and 932 yards and 6 TDs in the SEC.

I get you are pissed off, I know I am, but to act like this isn't a body blow is crazy talk. The guy was the third-leading receiver in the SEC. I mean come on man, when you say stuff like this, when we have actual good news how are you going to have any credibility?

This isn't Craver, this is most likely a first team pre-season ALL SEC WR next year.

While I hear you, he had a great year partly because of the system. Nobody knew who he was a year ago. Heck we fans didnt even think he was our best portal WR.
That room is the one room I worry least about finding production tbh. Lebby's offense always blows up average receivers (Moore, Drummond, stoops, Coleman).

[KB21]

When we got Kevin, he had a season where he caught 26 passes for 362 yards and 2 TDs.

[msstate7]

When we got Kevin, he had a season where he caught 26 passes for 362 yards and 2 TDs.

And this year he was our best wr. Somehow yall act like this a good thing.

[msstate7]

I thought miner, Coleman, booth, and MVB were our best offensive players last season, and they're all gone

[confucius say]

And this year he was our best wr. Somehow yall act like this a good thing.

Nobody thinks it's good. The relevant question is whether his production is replaceable.

[bulldawg28]

I thought miner, Coleman, booth, and MVB were our best offensive players last season, and they're all gone

Who is miner?

[confucius say]

I thought miner, Coleman, booth, and MVB were our best offensive players last season, and they're all gone

Agreed. And all guys brought in by lebby as one year guys with little NIL money this time last year.

[BigDawg81]

Hibbler is in boat

[confucius say]

Hibbler is in the boat

[RisperDawg]

Who is miner?

Ethan Miner

https://www.on3.com/db/ethan-miner-42987/

[RisperDawg]

Hibbler is in the boat

This Hibbler, right? From Louisville?

https://247sports.com/player/red-hibbler-46137604/

[confucius say]

This Hibbler, right? From Louisville?

https://247sports.com/player/red-hibbler-46137604/

Yes

[msstate7]

Who is miner?

Center

[msstate7]

Hibbler is in the boat

Guessing he got hurt this season? Good stats last year, but 4 games this season

[KB21]

I haven't seen anyone say it is a good thing that Kevin Coleman is going to Missouri. It's not. However, Jeff Lebby's offense absolutely produces big production from the WR position.

2019 at UCF:
Gabriel Davis 72-1,241-12
Tre Nixon 49-830-7
Marlon Williams 51-717-6

2020 at Ole Miss:
Elijah Moore 86-1,093-8

2021 at Ole Miss:
Dontario Drummond 76-1,028-8

2022 at Oklahoma:
Marvin Mims 54-1,083-6

2023 at Oklahoma:
Drake Stoops 84-962-10
Nic Anderson 38-798-10
Jalil Farooq 45-694-2

2024 at Mississippi State
Kevin Coleman 74-932-6

[Really Clark?]

Guessing he got hurt this season? Good stats last year, but 4 games this season

No, he sat out after 4 games so he could come back for another year.

[msstate7]

I haven't seen anyone say it is a good thing that Kevin Coleman is going to Missouri. It's not. However, Jeff Lebby's offense absolutely produces big production from the WR position.

2019 at UCF:
Gabriel Davis 72-1,241-12
Tre Nixon 49-830-7
Marlon Williams 51-717-6

2020 at Ole Miss:
Elijah Moore 86-1,093-8

2021 at Ole Miss:
Dontario Drummond 76-1,028-8

2022 at Oklahoma:
Marvin Mims 54-1,083-6

2023 at Oklahoma:
Drake Stoops 84-962-10
Nic Anderson 38-798-10
Jalil Farooq 45-694-2

2024 at Mississippi State
Kevin Coleman 74-932-6

During lebby's career, how many times did he lose his top receiver that had eligibility?

ETA... BTW, 3 of those 5 are nfl guys, so they weren't just any bodies that could be easily replaced. Coleman is yet TBD

[msstate7]

No, he sat out after 4 games so he could come back for another year.

He played well last season, so I'll hope for the best. I don't like quitting though.

[Young dawg]

You also have to think if we do indeed get Arnold receivers are going to want to play with him. I really think it?s a position we are going to be able to recruit well

[msu15]

There's not a guy on a roster that's "irreplaceable" from a 2-10 team.

[HancockCountyDog]

You also have to think if we do indeed get Arnold receivers are going to want to play with him. I really think it?s a position we are going to be able to recruit well

I hope you are right, it?s not like he lit up the scoreboard at OU the last two years.

[StarkVegasSteve]

During lebby's career, how many times did he lose his top receiver that had eligibility?

So now you are moving the goalposts. Now it is well he always loses his best receiver but how many had eligibility. Like dude, this is the portal era. Someone is going to have 65/900/7 in this offense next year. And someone else is going to have 45/550/4. My money is on Sheffield being that first number and Anderson being the second.

[msstate7]

There's not a guy on a roster that's "irreplaceable" from a 2-10 team.

We loaded up with transfers last year (19) to get to 2-10, so it isn't like upgrading is a given

[msstate7]

So now you are moving the goalposts. Now it is well he always loses his best receiver but how many had eligibility. Like dude, this is the portal era. Someone is going to have 65/900/7 in this offense next year. And someone else is going to have 45/550/4. My money is on Sheffield being that first number and Anderson being the second.

Hopefully you're right. You weren't on carver and Coleman, and unlike everyone here, I think they're pretty big losses

ETA... and I'm not trying to come across as calling you out on missing on craver and Coleman. I appreciate you guys that tell what you know, and I realize no one knows what these kids will do.

[msstate7]

I hope you are right, it?s not like he lit up the scoreboard at OU the last two years.

I want Arnold BAD now that we lost MVB, but yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would follow Arnold here. The Arnold smoke certainly hasn't helped us retain good WRs

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hopefully you're right. You weren't on carver and Coleman, and unlike everyone here, I think they're pretty big losses

ETA... and I'm not trying to come across as calling you out on missing on craver and Coleman. I appreciate you guys that tell what you know, and I realize no one knows what these kids will do.

I was never sure on Craver. I had gotten mixed signals. I will admit I was wrong on Coleman. We got played on that one unfortunately

[KB21]

Proximity to home is what got us. We offered him everything he wanted except for proximity to home.

[Todd4State]

I want Arnold BAD now that we lost MVB, but yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would follow Arnold here. The Arnold smoke certainly hasn't helped us retain good WRs

There is nothing MSU could do about a player's local school offering him and a player wanting to go home.

It would be no different than us offering a player from Jackson an opportunity to play at MSU that is at Kentucky and we get that player.

[Todd4State]

I was never sure on Craver. I had gotten mixed signals. I will admit I was wrong on Coleman. We got played on that one unfortunately

Not sure I want a guy who is suspended a couple of times back anyway. Especially at slot WR which is very expendable.

[Young dawg]

I hope you are right, it?s not like he lit up the scoreboard at OU the last two years.

I get where you are coming from, but you also have to realize this year most of his receivers were hurt and he was running a different scheme. He played pretty well with the opportunities he had when lebby was there.

[Coursesuper]

Hibbler is in boat

This is a big get. Much needed help in a position of need.

[chef dixon]

The reality is receiver is one of the easiest positions to replace.

Focus on the trenches and securing your QB and WR takes care of itself

[Bothrops]

I thought miner, Coleman, booth, and MVB were our best offensive players last season, and they're all gone

But supposedly we are improving the defense. We will hold teams to 3-6 fewer points next year. Who cares if we lose our big play ability on offense because the defense will be better. You see, it's all good.

[KB21]

Jaron Glover is visiting tomorrow. He?s exactly the type of WR that will produce big numbers in this system.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jaron Glover is visiting tomorrow. He?s exactly the type of WR that will produce big numbers in this system.

Glover can be a really solid 2 for us. If you could pull him, Anderson, and Sheffield then you have not only replaced Coleman and Craver but you have gotten better.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jalen Smith visit tomorrow is really important. If it goes well I think we get him. He would be a plug and play starter.

[Young dawg]

What are the chances we land the Tulsa receiver?

[StarkVegasSteve]

What are the chances we land the Tulsa receiver?

I really do not know where he is on our board. I had heard he was lower, but Rosebowl seems to believe he is higher. So we shall see on him.

Inversely, I have been hearing we were much higher on Sheffield than he seems to think we are.

[BigDawg81]

Malik Murphy has been rpm to Auburn by On3.

[ZedFedder]

Redd Hibbler is a big pick up

[Cowbell]

Delete

[StarkVegasSteve]

Malik Murphy has been rpm to Auburn by On3.

What is the confidence on it?? There is some smoke coming out that he will commit before leaving tomorrow so this follows that. I said yesterday I was still 50/50 the Auburn visit even happened for Arnold.

[Bothrops]

Maybe Auburn can get Murphy and Arnold.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Maybe Auburn can get Murphy and Arnold.

Arnold will not visit if Murphy commits.

[StateDawg44]

Dude it's a 17 receiver. We put a more than competitive offer to Coleman and had him. Mizzou came in and offered him a chance to go home. There are 75 Kevin Coleman's in the portal AT THIS MOMENT and there's 25 entering every day. This is not a big deal.

Yeah it?s fun to say all we have to do is this or that to rebound until we don?t do any of it.

Yes it?s possible we replace him but also 100% just as possible we don?t. Now we have to start all the way over basically on a WR1 HOPING we can get an impact player who can come in on day one and fill the role of someone who was proven in this system and ready for a big year. And that will just get us back to where we were before Coleman dipped.

[Todd4State]

Yeah it?s fun to say all we have to do is this or that to rebound until we don?t do any of it.

Yes it?s possible we replace him but also 100% just as possible we don?t. Now we have to start all the way over basically on a WR1 HOPING we can get an impact player who can come in on day one and fill the role of someone who was proven in this system and ready for a big year. And that will just get us back to where we were before Coleman dipped.

Watch Moneyball. It's the same principle. What it comes down to is finding someone or someones that can match production. Can we find someone that can get 900+ yards of receiving and 6 TD's out of the portal? IF we improve the QB position and the offensive line- VERY possible.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/5153056/dt-sheffield

[StateDawg44]

Watch Moneyball. It's the same principle. What it comes down to is finding someone or someones that can match production. Can we find someone that can get 900+ yards of receiving and 6 TD's out of the portal? IF we improve the QB position and the offensive line- VERY possible.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/5153056/dt-sheffield



Lolz. Yeah... the concept isn't hard to understand. MSU's execution is the problem.


We still likely have to wait 3-4 games (maybe more) into the season for things to gel for a player like DT. IF we even get him. How do you recoup that?

[Dawgology]

Losing our two best receivers and our QB to the portal is clown show level bad. That is all

[Chuck3124]

Is there a timeline today on when we will know if Arnold takes the visit or not?

[bulldawg28]

Is there a timeline today on when we will know if Arnold takes the visit or not?

I suspect if no news of Murphy committing he's going to visit Auburn.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Is there a timeline today on when we will know if Arnold takes the visit or not?

Assume he is unless you hear something about Murphy. Let me go ahead and get this out there though, HE IS STILL COMING HERE AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. We have known about the Auburn stuff since he entered. They are paying QBs to visit.

[confucius say]

During lebby's career, how many times did he lose his top receiver that had eligibility?

ETA... BTW, 3 of those 5 are nfl guys, so they weren't just any bodies that could be easily replaced. Coleman is yet TBD

Every year it's been a new WR. Doesn't matter whether it's because of eligibility expiring or they transfer or get hurt, he's replaced the prior year's WR production.

Gave any of those guys done in anything in the nfl, or are they like Moore and got to the NFL because of college production in Lebby's offense and then never did anything in the nfl? I don't know.

[Brobi-wan]

Losing our two best receivers and our QB to the portal is clown show level bad. That is all

Receivers are receivers. If you don?t get Arnold then losing MVB is bad. If you do, it?s a wash. We?re not Ole Miss. we aren?t losing production off of a 9-3 or 10-2 team. Of course we wanted to keep Coleman, but him and MVB won us 0 games. I don?t care how you spin about the defense was this bad, blah, blah, blah. MVB could not throw a slant, had poor pocket presence and his best game was against Georgia, which he regressed after. We were boat raced by a middling, at best, Arkansas team. If everyone left and I mean EVERYONE it could likely not be worse than this year. Arizona state basically replaced their entire team and is now in a playoff. The sky is not falling. We?re just behind the 8 ball because of stupid decisions from Cohen and Keenum. It will be fine.

[Cowbell]

Assume he is unless you hear something about Murphy. Let me go ahead and get this out there though, HE IS STILL COMING HERE AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. We have known about the Auburn stuff since he entered. They are paying QBs to visit.

If it's only for the money, why would he not visit once Murphy commits....

When I heard that, that is when I realized he ain't locked up. You guys saying he is are crazy. Their is still a good chance he comes here. But it ain't 90%.

[msstate7]

Every year it's been a new WR. Doesn't matter whether it's because of eligibility expiring or they transfer or get hurt, he's replaced the prior year's WR production.

Gave any of those guys done in anything in the nfl, or are they like Moore and got to the NFL because of college production in Lebby's offense and then never did anything in the nfl? I don't know.

Davis 5 seasons: 2,969 yds, 29 td (2nd contract)
Moore 4 seasons: 2,105 yds, 9 td (will get 2nd cont)
Mims rookie: 267 yds, 2 td

Down playing every wr to give Lebby all the credit is strange. These guys are good players, and so is Coleman. Lebby has certainly proven to be a good OC also.

[Chuck3124]

If it's only for the money, why would he not visit once Murphy commits....

When I heard that, that is when I realized he ain't locked up. You guys saying he is are crazy. Their is still a good chance he comes here. But it ain't 90%.

He?s saying he?s still gonna visit unless Murphy commits to them

[msstate7]

He?s saying he?s still gonna visit unless Murphy commits to them

That sounds like more than just for money then. If it's for the money, visit anyway, right?

[KB21]

The poor ole's are trying to convince themselves that we aren't really in it for Arnold because we are Mississippi State. We can't possibly get a QB of this caliber to come here no matter what his relationship with Jeff Lebby is.

[msstate7]

The poor ole's are trying to convince themselves that we aren't really in it for Arnold because we are Mississippi State. We can't possibly get a QB of this caliber to come here no matter what his relationship with Jeff Lebby is.

We're certainly in it. Some of us also realize it isn't a sure thing until he commits/signs/whatever

[StarkVegasSteve]

That sounds like more than just for money then. If it's for the money, visit anyway, right?

They would not need to pay him at that point. They have their QB. Visit would be cancelled by them, not Jackson.

[msstate7]

They would not need to pay him at that point. They have their QB. Visit would be cancelled by them, not Jackson.
Then that makes more sense

[Coursesuper]

They would not need to pay him at that point. They have their QB. Visit would be cancelled by them, not Jackson.

Why is it so hard to understand how the game is played? This is all fairly strait forward.

[bulldawg28]

I doubt they would cancel the trip even if Murphy committed.

[Chuck3124]

I doubt they would cancel the trip even if Murphy committed.

Why? Murphy is a 1 year guy, I believe could be wrong, and have Deuce Knight waiting in the wings after that. No need for them to bring Arnold in. Wouldn?t make sense to me but that?s just my opinion

[msstate7]

Why? Murphy is a 1 year guy, I believe could be wrong, and have Deuce Knight waiting in the wings after that. No need for them to bring Arnold in. Wouldn?t make sense to me but that?s just my opinion

No idea, but they don't have Ashton daniels listed yet on auburn 247 incoming transfers yet. Could be they just haven't listed him yet, or they could be trying to upgrade him if possible. No idea how Auburn ranks the qb prospects

[StarkVegasSteve]

No idea, but they don't have Ashton daniels listed yet on auburn 247 incoming transfers yet. Could be they just haven't listed him yet, or they could be trying to upgrade him if possible. No idea how Auburn ranks the qb prospects

He will not be their main guy. I actually expect them to bring in 3. Murphy, Daniels, and the kid from Cal.

[Really Clark?]

He will not be their main guy. I actually expect them to bring in 3. Murphy, Daniels, and the kid from Cal.

Mendoza is going to Miami. His dad and Christobal are friends since school days.

[bulldawg28]

Why? Murphy is a 1 year guy, I believe could be wrong, and have Deuce Knight waiting in the wings after that. No need for them to bring Arnold in. Wouldn?t make sense to me but that?s just my opinion

His job is on the line and transfers can change their minds being they don't sign anything binding. I believe they're locked in after they attend class. Murphy has only started one year in the ACC that's not really proven, imo. Bring in the best and let them all compete.

[Cowbell]

That sounds like more than just for money then. If it's for the money, visit anyway, right?

Exactly

[Cowbell]

We're certainly in it. Some of us also realize it isn't a sure thing until he commits/signs/whatever

I don't know why I don't believe everything that I read on a message board. I'm an idiot I guess

[Cowbell]

They would not need to pay him at that point. They have their QB. Visit would be cancelled by them, not Jackson.

Man this ain't what I'm hearing. Freeze ain't changed a bit...

[Cowbell]

I'm old enough to remember when Lane Kiffin was able to convince a starting QB from Oklahoma State to come "compete" for the job at ole miss

[StarkVegasSteve]

Man this ain't what I'm hearing. Freeze ain't changed a bit...

I am aware. I know Hugh and his family pretty damn well.

[Chuck3124]

I hope my gut is wrong, but I?m getting a bad hunch feeling we are about to get punched in the gut by Freeze on this one. Again I really hope I?m wrong but folks on auburn On3 seem to think they have Arnold

[StarkVegasSteve]

I hope my gut is wrong, but I?m getting a bad hunch feeling we are about to get punched in the gut by Freeze on this one. Again I really hope I?m wrong but folks on auburn On3 seem to think they have Arnold

Nothing has changed on our end. Our folks are still confident we have him. I checked last night.

[msstate7]

I hope my gut is wrong, but I?m getting a bad hunch feeling we are about to get punched in the gut by Freeze on this one. Again I really hope I?m wrong but folks on auburn On3 seem to think they have Arnold

If we lose, what's the pivot? MVB?

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we lose, what's the pivot? MVB?

No. It would be Preston Stone out of all likelihood. Again, I do not believe we lose him. Everything on the Arnold side of things has been consistent. Their messaging has not changed since September. Maybe I am just going down with the ship on this one but if so I will go down with it.

[Young dawg]

I just saw that Florida states qb is expected to come on a visit

[TStationDawg]

I just saw that Florida states qb is expected to come on a visit

Yeah- the timing of that is interesting isn't it, in light of this Auburn stuff.....smh..... the more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Cowbell]

No. It would be Preston Stone out of all likelihood. Again, I do not believe we lose him. Everything on the Arnold side of things has been consistent. Their messaging has not changed since September. Maybe I am just going down with the ship on this one but if so I will go down with it.

Its ok to say they are consistent and still proceed with caution...

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah- the timing of that is interesting isn't it, in light of this Auburn stuff.....smh..... the more things change, the more they stay the same.

We are taking two portal QBs regardless. We do not want the only thing separating the starter and starting ANOTHER true freshman be a guy with an injury history as long as a sorority girls bar tab with daddy’s credit card.

[TStationDawg]

Fair point- I truly hope you are correct. On multiple fronts.

[KB21]

Man! Jeff Lebby has TWO 5-star QBs interested in Mississippi State!!

[TStationDawg]

Lebby running a little leverage plan himself maybe?

[Chuck3124]

Ok so Arnold is flying in tonight that makes me feel a lot better. Time to seal the deal and have ourselves a weekend

[Todd4State]

Ok so Arnold is flying in tonight that makes me feel a lot better. Time to seal the deal and have ourselves a weekend

MSU needs something to go right in football for once.

[KB21]

Thing is, Kromenhoek is actually rated higher than Arnold in the portal. Think Zach Arnett would have gotten QBs like this interested in Mississippi State with Barbay Bombs?

[confucius say]

If we lose, what's the pivot? MVB?

Per Hadad, people in the building think Shapen is the starter even if we get Arnold. Take that fwiw

[BigDawg81]

Per Hadad, people in the building think Shapen is the starter even if we get Arnold. Take that fwiw
Tell me how that makes sense

[StarkVegasSteve]

Per Hadad, people in the building think Shapen is the starter even if we get Arnold. Take that fwiw

So once he gets injured in Spring or Fall camp it will be Arnold. The dude just cannot stay healthy. Also, people in the building I have spoken to say Lebby has more faith in Arnold than any QB he has ever had. Again, like you said, take that fwiw