Arnett signs 3 year deal

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Originally Posted by Activated Alpha

**** C34, give it a rest. We know State is poor. Unless some alumni hits the life lottery and invents the cure for cancer, we will not consistently have 25mm+ rosters every year. It?s just not financially feasible to rely on the limited millionaire boosters we have to continue doing that

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We're actually going to be close to 25 million.
Which is almost double what Indiana spent this year per 247

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

You said you would be happy if we beat Arkansas. You lied.

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Cry me a river.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

We're actually going to be close to 25 million.
Which is almost double what Indiana spent this year per 247

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Is that total for all sports or just for football? Is that just NIL or includes donor contributions also? For 23-24 we were at $23MM total. So if we spent $15MM on football then $8MM went to other sports. That ranked us 34th in total spending. We sure did not realize that kind of performance value last year.

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Is that total for all sports or just for football? Is that just NIL or includes donor contributions also? For 23-24 we were at $23MM total. So if we spent $15MM on football then $8MM went to other sports. That ranked us 34th in total spending. We sure did not realize that kind of performance value last year.

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We will spend over 20 million on just football.
15-16 million of that will be rev share, meaning State Excellence Fund. The rest will be NIL, meaning from the collective.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

If we're going to make a terrible hire at DC we might as well double down and give him a terrible contract to go with it.

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Makes sense......for us.

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Total Contributions Rank in SEC -- National ranking in (parenthesis)

1. Texas - $77,974,073 (#1)

2. LSU - $75,929,827 (#2)

3. Georgia - $74,315,945 (#3)

4. Florida - $61,364,272 ((#7)

5. Texas A&M - $54,204,110 ((#9)

6. Alabama - $53,113,300 (#11)

7. Oklahoma - $43,180,134 (#13)

8. Auburn - $36,372,783 (#18)

9. Tennessee - $35,483,274 (#19)

10. Ole Miss - $34,409,478 (#20)

11. South Carolina - $33,833,869 (#21)

12. Missouri - $29,555,704 (#24)

13. Kentucky - $27,938,279 (#29)

14. Mississippi State - $22,612,228 (#34)

15. Arkansas - $22,165,941 (#35)

16. Vanderbilt - N/A (Private School)

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Kinda proving Coach's point on this. We beat literally everyone we outspent this season. 4 non con's and Arkansas, and lost to everyone that outspent us. (Assuming Arizona State didn't outspend us, which they may have)

Arguing that "we may be at the bottom of the SEC but not the country!", when 9 of our games every year going forward are SEC GAMES, is not a good argument. We are poor overall bc we play in the SEC and are dead last, or second to last.

So Lebby actually did a jam up job to have us in nail biters with #1, #4, and #9.

Especially with a bottom tier budget and a nincompoop as DC. Matter of fact, the Hutzler hire may be his only negative at this point considering the budget and cupboard he took over.

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

I think it is a brain dead take to say any coach besides Lebby has us 7-5. I guess the assumption would be we win 2 out of 3 of Florida Texas and Tenn. We averaged 31 points in those 3 games. So Qs argument is that while Lebby had us competitive in those 3 games against much more talented rosters, everything that went wrong was on Lebby but everything that went right to have us competitive against much more talented rosters is disregarded. Doesnt make sense to me.

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Exactly. Totally ignores the fact that we were IN position to beat TX and UF was because of Lebby to begin with... and stand toe to toe with TN and beat ASU.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Exactly. Totally ignores the fact that we were IN position to beat TX and UF was because of Lebby to begin with... and stand toe to toe with TN and beat ASU.

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Florida was a bad team this year! There's nothing impressive about a close loss to them. Not only did they fire their coach, 2 teams who beat them also fired their coaches.

I can get the argument that playing Texas close is at least something in Lebby's favor, but I still go back to the fact that all he had to do is run out the clock, and he just couldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Kinda proving Coach's point on this. We beat literally everyone we outspent this season. 4 non con's and Arkansas, and lost to everyone that outspent us. (Assuming Arizona State didn't outspend us, which they may have)

Arguing that "we may be at the bottom of the SEC but not the country!", when 9 of our games every year going forward are SEC GAMES, is not a good argument. We are poor overall bc we play in the SEC and are dead last, or second to last.

So Lebby actually did a jam up job to have us in nail biters with #1, #4, and #9.

Especially with a bottom tier budget and a nincompoop as DC. Matter of fact, the Hutzler hire may be his only negative at this point considering the budget and cupboard he took over.

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Money wasn't the reason we lost to Texas, Florida, or TN. Our coach wet the bed.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

You guys have to understand- NIL has changed EVERYTHING. Old coaching norms and conference prestige are gone.

Texas Tech is a Top 4 seed- why? They spent 35MM in NIL.

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The kid on the left, looking up to the Pirate is the TTU NIL King. He is something like 25M of the 35M they spend.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.

It really doesn?t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???

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So how much will it cost us to get to top 25? That's where the playoff is headed.

How much are we paying Zach?

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Total Contributions Rank in SEC -- National ranking in (parenthesis)

1. Texas - $77,974,073 (#1)

2. LSU - $75,929,827 (#2)

3. Georgia - $74,315,945 (#3)

4. Florida - $61,364,272 ((#7)

5. Texas A&M - $54,204,110 ((#9)

6. Alabama - $53,113,300 (#11)

7. Oklahoma - $43,180,134 (#13)

8. Auburn - $36,372,783 (#18)

9. Tennessee - $35,483,274 (#19)

10. Ole Miss - $34,409,478 (#20)

11. South Carolina - $33,833,869 (#21)

12. Missouri - $29,555,704 (#24)

13. Kentucky - $27,938,279 (#29)

14. Mississippi State - $22,612,228 (#34)

15. Arkansas - $22,165,941 (#35)

16. Vanderbilt - N/A (Private School)

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What are these numbers exactly? And from where?

They aren't roster prices for 2025.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Florida was a bad team this year! There's nothing impressive about a close loss to them. Not only did they fire their coach, 2 teams who beat them also fired their coaches.

I can get the argument that playing Texas close is at least something in Lebby's favor, but I still go back to the fact that all he had to do is run out the clock, and he just couldn't do it.

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Their roster had better players, they spent more in NIL and it was on the road. Were they playing bad, yes. Were they the better team in paper, also yes. Was it Lebby's play calling that got us in position to win, yes. Was it a dumb decision to throw the ball at the end of the game? Yes. Should Shapen had thrown it away so we could kick the FG instead of throwing it to a D lineman? Yes

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

That may be true, but the rest of the college football world thinks Lebby is a dead man walking. There's no other reason every DC candidate on our short list would turn us down, resulting in us crawling back to Arnett. And frankly, he should be on the hot seat. One SEC win in 2 years isn't good enough...and he has an extra SEC game on the schedule starting next season. I understand the reasons we are waiting, but bringing back Arnett does nothing to convince me that we won't be doing a head coaching search this time next year.

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I think our portal recruiting has way more bearing than the DC, if Lebby and crew will be here next year. Not that DC doesn?t count but the good players will count more.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

You guys have to understand- NIL has changed EVERYTHING. Old coaching norms and conference prestige are gone.

Texas Tech is a Top 4 seed- why? They spent 35MM in NIL.

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That is one example; name another.

Also can you explain Indiana with a 49 and 36 ranked last two signings?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Florida was a bad team this year! There's nothing impressive about a close loss to them. Not only did they fire their coach, 2 teams who beat them also fired their coaches.

I can get the argument that playing Texas close is at least something in Lebby's favor, but I still go back to the fact that all he had to do is run out the clock, and he just couldn't do it.

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Florida was a bad team this year. They were also more talented than us. Florida also won the national championship in basketball last year because of the transfer portal and NIL.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

That is one example; name another.

Also can you explain Indiana with a 49 and 36 ranked last two signings?

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Indiana signed a high 4 star qb transfer who is the odds on favorite to win the Heisman.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

That is one example; name another.

Also can you explain Indiana with a 49 and 36 ranked last two signings?

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Indiana built a solid foundation last year and was able to use the portal to fill immediate needs, not trying to completely overhaul a roster like we have to do. So ranking don’t always tell the whole story. I’m not saying the guy can’t coach because they are tight and gelled. Play fast hard and together.

Tough day for the Air Raid cult who seemingly doesn't have the brain capacity to understand that we're bringing back Arnett to be our DC, which he was quite good at, and not our HC.