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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Why are you trying to divert attention with Pavia. So Vandy spends more than us. So we're 35th in the country instead of 34. Again, we're low in the SEC but we're not poor. More money will help but we're not getting value for what we're already spending.
    because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawdawg View Post
    A better roster allows you to be imperfect and still win. With the roster we have there is very little room for error, especially when every conference game but 1 we?re playing a more talented team.
    Sure, but I think it's a lot easier to fix a problem of in-game decision making than it is to fix the problem that Mississippi is a poor and low-population state. The question is whether Lebby can fix it, or if we'll have someone else fix it in 2027.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
    Everyone understands this. That's why we have to find other ways to win, including not choking away the games we do have a chance to win. We aren't going to out-talent anyone.

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    I think it is a brain dead take to say any coach besides Lebby has us 7-5. I guess the assumption would be we win 2 out of 3 of Florida Texas and Tenn. We averaged 31 points in those 3 games. So Qs argument is that while Lebby had us competitive in those 3 games against much more talented rosters, everything that went wrong was on Lebby but everything that went right to have us competitive against much more talented rosters is disregarded. Doesnt make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Everyone understands this. That's why we have to find other ways to win, including not choking away the games we do have a chance to win. We aren't going to out-talent anyone.
    But what you?re missing is that in this era of college football non traditional schools are out talenting their way to wins and the playoffs. And they are doing it by buying rosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Sure, but I think it's a lot easier to fix a problem of in-game decision making than it is to fix the problem that Mississippi is a poor and low-population state. The question is whether Lebby can fix it, or if we'll have someone else fix it in 2027.
    7-5 and the liberty bowl is great and all but does that really make shit? Given our current talent it will not matter who the coach is to coach us from 5 and 7 to 10 and 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    I think it is a brain dead take to say any coach besides Lebby has us 7-5. I guess the assumption would be we win 2 out of 3 of Florida Texas and Tenn. We averaged 31 points in those 3 games. So Qs argument is that while Lebby had us competitive in those 3 games against much more talented rosters, everything that went wrong was on Lebby but everything that went right to have us competitive against much more talented rosters is disregarded. Doesnt make sense to me.
    Nobody has said that any coach besides Lebby gets us to 7-5. I said a good coach would have gone 7-5. That's a monumentally different point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawdawg View Post
    7-5 and the liberty bowl is great and all but does that really make shit? Given our current talent it will not matter who the coach is to coach us from 5 and 7 to 10 and 2.
    I think given the last 2 years, I would have been very happy with Lebby if we'd made it to 7-5, and damn, we were so close...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawdawg View Post
    But what you?re missing is that in this era of college football non traditional schools are out talenting their way to wins and the playoffs. And they are doing it by buying rosters.
    Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.

    It really doesn’t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???
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    How does every thread turn into Q just rambling about we were talented enough to be 7-5. Dude typing a bunch of words over and over do not make you right, rest your bell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.

    It really doesn’t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???
    It absolutely matters who your coach is. Good players have overcome bad coaching sometimes, but you're still seeing good coaches outperform their talent level and bad coaches underperform over the course of seasons and longer.

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    Whether or not you are in favor of bringing Arnett back, can someone explain to me why you would need to give someone a 3 year contract that currently is not even actively coaching anywhere? And didn't he leave UNLV under some supposedly disturbing circumstances?? Just asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
    There are numerous playoff teams that didn't spend 25 million unh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
    Please list what each of the 16 teams spent, for clarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Whether or not you are in favor of bringing Arnett back, can someone explain to me why you would need to give someone a 3 year contract that currently is not even actively coaching anywhere? And didn't he leave UNLV under some supposedly disturbing circumstances?? Just asking.
    For perceived continuity and recruiting.
    He can be on a 10 year deal. The only thing that matters is the buyout.

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    **** C34, give it a rest. We know State is poor. Unless some alumni hits the life lottery and invents the cure for cancer, we will not consistently have 25mm+ rosters every year. It?s just not financially feasible to rely on the limited millionaire boosters we have to continue doing that

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    There are numerous playoff teams that didn't spend 25 million unh?
    Tulane didn?t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.

    It really doesn’t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???
    Ehh, coaching still matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
    We are low in the SEC. However, where did we end up, outside the top fifty in the overall rankings. We rank better than that from a spending standpoint. Now not allocating the same percentage of the funds to football as other schools would affect it but I highly doubt we're doing that. Bottom line: more money will help but we need better value from what we're already spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I think given the last 2 years, I would have been very happy with Lebby if we'd made it to 7-5, and damn, we were so close...
    You said you would be happy if we beat Arkansas. You lied.

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