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Originally Posted by
EdwardDrayton
Why are you trying to divert attention with Pavia. So Vandy spends more than us. So we're 35th in the country instead of 34. Again, we're low in the SEC but we're not poor. More money will help but we're not getting value for what we're already spending.
because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
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Originally Posted by
Rawdawg
A better roster allows you to be imperfect and still win. With the roster we have there is very little room for error, especially when every conference game but 1 we?re playing a more talented team.
Sure, but I think it's a lot easier to fix a problem of in-game decision making than it is to fix the problem that Mississippi is a poor and low-population state. The question is whether Lebby can fix it, or if we'll have someone else fix it in 2027.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
Everyone understands this. That's why we have to find other ways to win, including not choking away the games we do have a chance to win. We aren't going to out-talent anyone.
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I think it is a brain dead take to say any coach besides Lebby has us 7-5. I guess the assumption would be we win 2 out of 3 of Florida Texas and Tenn. We averaged 31 points in those 3 games. So Qs argument is that while Lebby had us competitive in those 3 games against much more talented rosters, everything that went wrong was on Lebby but everything that went right to have us competitive against much more talented rosters is disregarded. Doesnt make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Everyone understands this. That's why we have to find other ways to win, including not choking away the games we do have a chance to win. We aren't going to out-talent anyone.
But what you?re missing is that in this era of college football non traditional schools are out talenting their way to wins and the playoffs. And they are doing it by buying rosters.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Sure, but I think it's a lot easier to fix a problem of in-game decision making than it is to fix the problem that Mississippi is a poor and low-population state. The question is whether Lebby can fix it, or if we'll have someone else fix it in 2027.
7-5 and the liberty bowl is great and all but does that really make shit? Given our current talent it will not matter who the coach is to coach us from 5 and 7 to 10 and 2.
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
I think it is a brain dead take to say any coach besides Lebby has us 7-5. I guess the assumption would be we win 2 out of 3 of Florida Texas and Tenn. We averaged 31 points in those 3 games. So Qs argument is that while Lebby had us competitive in those 3 games against much more talented rosters, everything that went wrong was on Lebby but everything that went right to have us competitive against much more talented rosters is disregarded. Doesnt make sense to me.
Nobody has said that any coach besides Lebby gets us to 7-5. I said a good coach would have gone 7-5. That's a monumentally different point.
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Originally Posted by
Rawdawg
7-5 and the liberty bowl is great and all but does that really make shit? Given our current talent it will not matter who the coach is to coach us from 5 and 7 to 10 and 2.
I think given the last 2 years, I would have been very happy with Lebby if we'd made it to 7-5, and damn, we were so close...
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Originally Posted by
Rawdawg
But what you?re missing is that in this era of college football non traditional schools are out talenting their way to wins and the playoffs. And they are doing it by buying rosters.
Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.
It really doesn’t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???
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How does every thread turn into Q just rambling about we were talented enough to be 7-5. Dude typing a bunch of words over and over do not make you right, rest your bell
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.
It really doesn’t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???
It absolutely matters who your coach is. Good players have overcome bad coaching sometimes, but you're still seeing good coaches outperform their talent level and bad coaches underperform over the course of seasons and longer.
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Whether or not you are in favor of bringing Arnett back, can someone explain to me why you would need to give someone a 3 year contract that currently is not even actively coaching anywhere? And didn't he leave UNLV under some supposedly disturbing circumstances?? Just asking.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
There are numerous playoff teams that didn't spend 25 million unh?
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
Please list what each of the 16 teams spent, for clarity.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Whether or not you are in favor of bringing Arnett back, can someone explain to me why you would need to give someone a 3 year contract that currently is not even actively coaching anywhere? And didn't he leave UNLV under some supposedly disturbing circumstances?? Just asking.
For perceived continuity and recruiting.
He can be on a 10 year deal. The only thing that matters is the buyout.
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**** C34, give it a rest. We know State is poor. Unless some alumni hits the life lottery and invents the cure for cancer, we will not consistently have 25mm+ rosters every year. It?s just not financially feasible to rely on the limited millionaire boosters we have to continue doing that
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
There are numerous playoff teams that didn't spend 25 million unh?
Tulane didn?t.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Aka Texas Tech spent $35MM and is now Top 4.
It really doesn’t matter who the coach is. What is your budget for playas???
Ehh, coaching still matters
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
because we spent $15MM. The rest of the SEC spent way more than us. We are Vandy now circa 1980. We arent spending like the rest of the SEC does
We are low in the SEC. However, where did we end up, outside the top fifty in the overall rankings. We rank better than that from a spending standpoint. Now not allocating the same percentage of the funds to football as other schools would affect it but I highly doubt we're doing that. Bottom line: more money will help but we need better value from what we're already spending.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I think given the last 2 years, I would have been very happy with Lebby if we'd made it to 7-5, and damn, we were so close...
You said you would be happy if we beat Arkansas. You lied.
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