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Arnett signs 3 year deal
That tells me Lebby is not on the hotseat for 2026 unless its a complete failure. A 2 year deal would have sufficed
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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My sources say arnett is the heir apparent for Lebby.
Haha, I really hope Todd and kb21 believed this for a second
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
My sources say arnett is the heir apparent for Lebby.
Haha, I really hope Todd and kb21 believed this for a second
The real Bert Stare is unmasked!!
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My sources say we’re bringing back the air raid to better utilize KT’s short passing skills.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
That tells me Lebby is not on the hotseat for 2026 unless its a complete failure. A 2 year deal would have sufficed
That may be true, but the rest of the college football world thinks Lebby is a dead man walking. There's no other reason every DC candidate on our short list would turn us down, resulting in us crawling back to Arnett. And frankly, he should be on the hot seat. One SEC win in 2 years isn't good enough...and he has an extra SEC game on the schedule starting next season. I understand the reasons we are waiting, but bringing back Arnett does nothing to convince me that we won't be doing a head coaching search this time next year.
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This hire will most likely save Libby?s job as our D will be vastly improved.
Our fans are wrong?.,
Again
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
This hire will most likely save Libby?s job as our D will be vastly improved.
Our fans are wrong?.,
Again
But those who say differently may not be wrong. No one knows for sure. One thing is for sure. We hired him and what comes will be. I hope you're right because we've tolerated suck enough. I will say the path that got us Arnett does not inspire confidence in the decision.
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If there are Lebby decisions that make me question his sanity....choosing to stick with #2 while the clear future sat on the bench...while watching the other guy take sack after sack, throw picks, and just look horrid and pathetic in general....
Yeah...that'd be the one. I actually think changing DC to Arnett is a good decision, and one that could pay off greatly. Certainly can't be any worse on that side of the ball....
That being said, unless we SPEND THE MONEY on talent in the portal, we could've hired Saban to be our DC and wouldn't have mattered.
Bring in some dudes!
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
My sources say arnett is the heir apparent for Lebby.
Haha, I really hope Todd and kb21 believed this for a second
7.... that was a loooooow blow. Lol
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Anyone know what the money is for 3 years?... If I was a betting man I bet its on the lower end with whatever is leftover going toward the portal.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
That may be true, but the rest of the college football world thinks Lebby is a dead man walking.
Totally disagree. Everywhere you look there is optimism and positive vibes about our program. We werent going to hire a name because we dont have the NIL other programs do. That is now the #1 thing coaches look at when viewing jobs. Why would a DC put his name on the line for a weak NIL budget?
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You guys have to understand- NIL has changed EVERYTHING. Old coaching norms and conference prestige are gone.
Texas Tech is a Top 4 seed- why? They spent 35MM in NIL.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
You guys have to understand- NIL has changed EVERYTHING. Old coaching norms and conference prestige are gone.
Texas Tech is a Top 4 seed- why? They spent 35MM in NIL.
Indiana back to back playoffs, SMU playoffs last year, Vandy this year, Virginia is on the cusp of a playoff because of NIL, Ole Miss. The name of the game is players and to get them is to pay them.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
My sources say arnett is the heir apparent for Lebby.
Haha, I really hope Todd and kb21 believed this for a second
Hahaha!!! That's an outstanding troll job!!!
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Originally Posted by
Rawdawg
Indiana back to back playoffs, SMU playoffs last year, Vandy this year, Virginia is on the cusp of a playoff because of NIL, Ole Miss. The name of the game is players and to get them is to pay them.
Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
And what Lebby did with a team bought off Temu is pretty good. We were literally two plays from being 7-5 this season. I wonder what he and Arnett could do with a $25mil team?
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
Sooo many hardheaded, unable to accept the change of NIL era football.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
Agree with you but it doesn't matter what the fans think. It's up to our boosters and administration to come up with the money. If we keep spending 15 mil then it's a huge failure on their part and that's what worries me.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Totally disagree. Everywhere you look there is optimism and positive vibes about our program. We werent going to hire a name because we dont have the NIL other programs do. That is now the #1 thing coaches look at when viewing jobs. Why would a DC put his name on the line for a weak NIL budget?
What a delusional thing to say. Nobody I talk to in real life is remotely "optimistic." Social media replies and comments are almost entirely negative. Every MSU board except this one is 80% or more "Fire Lebby."
Outside our program, nobody thinks he's doing a good job either. Try asking about him on CFB reddit - no one is impressed.

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Its amazing so many of our fans dont understand this. They just want to blame Lebby and Hutz instead of realizing a roster that competes starts at $25MM. Our 2025 roster was $15MM
Everyone understands this. Everyone is extremely aware that we have less money than the rest of the SEC and probably will. That's why it's so important to have a coach whose strong suit is in-game coaching. Unfortunately, we have the opposite of that. A good gameday coach would have won 7 or 8 games this year even with our $15M roster.
If Lebby had done that, there really would be optimism and positive vibes all around the program.
Last edited by Quaoarsking; 12-06-2025 at 09:52 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
What a delusional thing to say. Nobody I talk to in real life is remotely "optimistic." Social media replies and comments are almost entirely negative. Every MSU board except this one is 80% or more "Fire Lebby."
Outside our program, nobody thinks he's doing a good job either. Try asking about him on CFB reddit - no one is impressed.
Everyone understands this. Everyone is extremely aware that we have less money than the rest of the SEC and probably will. That's why it's so important to have a coach whose strong suit is in-game coaching. Unfortunately, we have the opposite of that. A good gameday coach would have won 7 or 8 games this year even with our $15M roster.
If Lebby had done that, there really would be optimism and positive vibes all around the program.
Spot on. Unless something drastically changes.. we will never be able to consistently spend 30 mill a year. Coaching still matters for programs like ours.
At Ohio St, Texas, A&M, TT, etc.... maybe coaching doesn't matter as much. Those schools can spend 30-40 mill every year and not think twice. We unfortunately can't.
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