2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

[msstate7]

I feel 100x better on things than a lot of people on this board.

100 x 0 = 100 haha

Glad you two feel good

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Let's get through this weekend & I'll give 1 Monday after all OV have been made.

Do we control our on destiny on any of those remaining or are we waiting to see what the other schools do?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

100 x 1= 100

FIFY

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

How many times do people have to be reassured? Geez I thought I was into recruiting too much but some of you seem way obsessed. I feel like I have read the same post 200 times in the last 2 weeks.

[msstate7]

How many times do people have to be reassured? Geez I thought I was into recruiting too much but some of you seem way obsessed. I feel like I have read the same post 200 times in the last 2 weeks.

How do you feel about the big stars left on board?**

[HancockCountyDog]

So, no one wants to make predictions. How about this? Ifyouonlyknew, Edrecruiting, hoopsdawg, Hancockcountydog, and jumbo... You nervous about the big stars left on the board?

Nervous isn't the right word. Trying to decipher what is panic and what is real. Believe it or not, even sources get caught up in the panic sometimes. Everyone needs to take a damn deep breath, step away from the keyboard before you post about CDM, a recruit, or the bears.

[oldjoedawg]

mic, answer the question: Who does he have to answer to? Certainly not you or me.....anyone spending time on this message board fussing and fuming obviously doesn't have anything better to do and that is why CDM doesn't have to answer to you or me.....I love all these posts where folks make their demanding statements.....LOL....


I never brought up one thing about UMiss recruiting... We all know how they roll and what is about to happen there..
But if we are going to praise CDM for what he has done here , then your damn right he should be held accountable for this as well..
If the next step is going to be taken then we have to close some of these guys...

A kid from your own back yard.. Possible the best WR to come out of the state in decades
A DL not 40 minutes away who could step in from day one and be a difference maker
A top 10 player in the country who's parents are MSU grads , if it's not UGA then there is no reason it shouldn't be use. If what all that was being said is true about the parents wanting him here..

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Nice! and....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to msstate7 again.

[ShotgunDawg]

What if I told you that Dan Mullen believes we sweep the board? Would that make you feel better?

[mic]

mic, answer the question: Who does he have to answer to? Certainly not you or me.....anyone spending time on this message board fussing and fuming obviously doesn't have anything better to do and that is why CDM doesn't have to answer to you or me.....I love all these posts where folks make their demanding statements.....LOL....

the first question asked CDM during his presser about NSD will be this.. If it happens.. It will be a huge elephant in the room..

His boss better be the first to ask the question.. That's doubtful..

How do you think Clemson has gotten to where they are ?. They recruited better.

He owes an answer to all the Season ticket holders as to how he is going to get to Atl like he said the goal is every year if you can close recruits in your backyard.

how do you take the next step ?? You need the players...

He says how he recruits the state first and Formost.. Ok that great. I like it.. Bu if you don't get but 1or 2 of the top 8 players in the state , what's going to be the answer if this happens.

He owes it himself .. **** as arrogant as coaches are and he is I would be pissed if this happened.. I would be in assistants asses as to what happened.. And if it is out of "their control" then we need to join the college football world of 2016..

The coaches need to recruit their asses off.. All year.. And the outside bullshit that EVERY school does needs to pick up and be ALLOWED to do what everyone else is doing.

It's my personal opinion , I think the previous staff work got outworked on the recruiting trail.. This new blood may change that, but one of the weak links is still on the staff..

We may finish very strong , I think we will do better than most think but we may lay an egg...
But if a coach is making 4million plus he is accountable for EVERYHTING in the program.. Good and bad..

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mic again.

[mic]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mic again.

My bad if everyone wants to accept average...

[mic]

What if I told you that Dan Mullen believes we sweep the board? Would that make you feel better?

That would be great..

Thing is why shouldn't he sweep the board..? All the big board guys left are in state guys.. We are suppose to win in state recruiting . We always have.. That's been CDM's selling point.. And in year 8... Coming off 19 wins in 2 seasons he should..

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

My bad if everyone wants to accept average...

Calm down...I tried to give you some positive rep points, but apparently many others agreed with your post before I did so I posted that instead.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That would be great..

Thing is why shouldn't he sweep the board..? All the big board guys left are in state guys.. We are suppose to win in state recruiting . We always have.. That's been CDM's selling point.. And in year 8... Coming off 19 wins in 2 seasons he should..

This is why he's kind of in a no win situation this last week. If things go left & he doesn't get these kids everyone gets to scream & say he needs to go. On the other hand he could sweep all the instate guys & some will say what's the big deal that's what he's supposed to do. I guess my biggest thing is why can't we wait 1 more week (7 Days THANK YOU GOD) before we combust & explode & complain. Let's at least see what the ending is before we meltdown. That's a foreign concept to MSU fans though. Meant for no one in particular.

[Big4Dawg]

the first question asked CDM during his presser about NSD will be this.. If it happens.. It will be a huge elephant in the room..

His boss better be the first to ask the question.. That's doubtful..

How do you think Clemson has gotten to where they are ?. They recruited better.

He owes an answer to all the Season ticket holders as to how he is going to get to Atl like he said the goal is every year if you can close recruits in your backyard.

how do you take the next step ?? You need the players...

He says how he recruits the state first and Formost.. Ok that great. I like it.. Bu if you don't get but 1or 2 of the top 8 players in the state , what's going to be the answer if this happens.

He owes it himself .. **** as arrogant as coaches are and he is I would be pissed if this happened.. I would be in assistants asses as to what happened.. And if it is out of "their control" then we need to join the college football world of 2016..

The coaches need to recruit their asses off.. All year.. And the outside bullshit that EVERY school does needs to pick up and be ALLOWED to do what everyone else is doing.

It's my personal opinion , I think the previous staff work got outworked on the recruiting trail.. This new blood may change that, but one of the weak links is still on the staff..

We may finish very strong , I think we will do better than most think but we may lay an egg...
But if a coach is making 4million plus he is accountable for EVERYHTING in the program.. Good and bad..

Agree 100%.

This is one of our problems as well. If we can't lock down 1/2 of the top 12 in the state, then we need to cast a wider net. We frankly just do not have enough names left on the board for a class w/ only 15 commits. We have to almost hit 90% from here on out to have a full class.

[msstate7]

Another hankerson CB... Think it's a reflection on aj, farrar, or neither?

[Big4Dawg]

Probably all of the above. Feeling the rest of the class with diamonds

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Another hankerson CB... Think it's a reflection on aj, farrar, or neither?

Neither.

[mic]

Another hankerson CB... Think it's a reflection on aj, farrar, or neither?

Athlete... Could play WR or CB.. Would be a take no matter what happens..

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

This is why he's kind of in a no win situation this last week. If things go left & he doesn't get these kids everyone gets to scream & say he needs to go. On the other hand he could sweep all the instate guys & some will say what's the big deal that's what he's supposed to do. I guess my biggest thing is why can't we wait 1 more week (7 Days THANK YOU GOD) before we combust & explode & complain. Let's at least see what the ending is before we meltdown. That's a foreign concept to MSU fans though. Meant for no one in particular.

I'm sorry, but that's chicken shit. He's dealing with the same issues that other schools are dealing with. Why is it a big thing that we wait until one more week to talk about the possibilities?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Another hankerson CB... Think it's a reflection on aj, farrar, or neither?

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?32610-John-Michael-Hankerson&highlight=hankerson

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'm sorry, but that's chicken shit. He's dealing with the same issues that other schools are dealing with. Why is it a big thing that we wait until one more week to talk about the possibilities?

You totally missed the point but ok.

[Really Clark?]

I don't know who all we will end up with. I feel good about several guys. AJ is a hot button topic because he is from Starkville and a great player. I know there are not 2 schools combined who have recruited and spent time with him, and Simmons for that matter, more than us. It looks like WE are choosing to not bring in the JUCO WR this weekend. That may change as everything does at the end of the recruiting cycle. If we do its not an indication that we are missing on someone. But like I posted the other day. We still sit with 15 commits and are not scrambling to find players just to fill out the class. Confidence seems pretty high where we sit on a lot of targets.

[Commercecomet24]

This is why he's kind of in a no win situation this last week. If things go left & he doesn't get these kids everyone gets to scream & say he needs to go. On the other hand he could sweep all the instate guys & some will say what's the big deal that's what he's supposed to do. I guess my biggest thing is why can't we wait 1 more week (7 Days THANK YOU GOD) before we combust & explode & complain. Let's at least see what the ending is before we meltdown. That's a foreign concept to MSU fans though. Meant for no one in particular.

Exactly right, it's almost like as a fanbase we search for a reason to be unhappy. We are smack dab in the middle of our greatest football era ever, the program is healthier than it's ever been but still people complain. I agree some things could be a little better but building a program from scratch is a work in progress. Overall I'm completely happy with the direction we are headed and if we close big next week it will show we are getting there even more so!

Let it play out.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't know who all we will end up with. I feel good about several guys. AJ is a hot button topic because he is from Starkville and a great player. I know there are not 2 schools combined who have recruited and spent time with him, and Simmons for that matter, more than us. It looks like WE are choosing to not bring in the JUCO WR this weekend. That may change as everything does at the end of the recruiting cycle. If we do its not an indication that we are missing on someone. But like I posted the other day. We still sit with 15 commits and are not scrambling to find players just to fill out the class. Confidence seems pretty high where we sit on a lot of targets.

This

Stop listening to sources and use common sense

[Johnson85]

Agree 100%.

This is one of our problems as well. If we can't lock down 1/2 of the top 12 in the state, then we need to cast a wider net. We frankly just do not have enough names left on the board for a class w/ only 15 commits. We have to almost hit 90% from here on out to have a full class.

This is the best argument for staying calm. Our staff is not incompetent. They may be trailing in some of the SEC recruiting tactics, but if they didn't have reason to feel good, they wouldn't be twiddling their thumbs, you'd see us scrambling with back-up plans, which for the most part I don't see happening. I'm not particularly optimistic, but if the staff isn't scrambling yet, I have to think they have reason for that.

[jumbo]

We frankly just do not have enough names left on the board for a class w/ only 15 commits. We have to almost hit 90% from here on out to have a full class.


We have 10ish more spots. The board is Brown, Brown, Simmons, Knott, Lashley, Hankerson, Turnier, Dowdell, Reese, Cushenberry, Davis, Jones & Farrar (he's "committed" but I'm putting him here because we have to convince him not to flip). There's a lot of star power in that list. And not only that, but star power at positions of NEED.

That's 13 main targets. If the staff felt they weren't getting the majority of those guys, wouldn't we see a lot of late offers going out? We haven't seen that at all. There's been no scrambling to try and get a bunch of kids to visit last minute and no offers going out to prospects we've never heard off. That is part of the reason I feel good about finishing strong.



EDIT: What Johnson85 said...should have read your post first.

[maroonmania]

Let's at least see what the ending is before we meltdown. That's a foreign concept to MSU fans though. Meant for no one in particular.

This is exactly my opinion. All these discussions are valid to have if things go poorly NEXT WEEK. To banter on right now about our shortcomings in recruiting isn't helping anything 1 week out from signing day. I mean the big targets everyone is worried about haven't committed anywhere yet. A lot of you have already written off Farrar yet he is still committed to us as of today. Right now I'm reserving judgement until I see where everyone ends up. If we basically end up getting skunked then a lot things should be discussed, but that hasn't happened. We could still end up with an excellent class when all is said and done. Just like you don't judge a season until its over, we shouldn't be judging our recruiting class until the signatures are in.

[msstate7]

3 Nigel knott cb's to om and Zach farrar to Oklahoma

[ShotgunDawg]

3 Nigel knott cb's to om and Zach farrar to Oklahoma

People are throwing spaghetti at the wall right now. Leo's CB was changed numerous times in the last week last year.

At this point, there is too much noise for certainty on uncommitted guys, unless of course, you are certain.

If the CB guys really knew what was going on, they would have made their picks long before now.

[Covercorner2]

3 Nigel knott cb's to om and Zach farrar to Oklahoma

All by Ole Miss mods. Yet, they wont pull the trigger on AJ. So easy to see through the BS.....

[Covercorner2]

People are throwing spaghetti at the wall right now. Leo's CB was changed numerous times in the last week last year.

At this point, there is too much noise for certainty on uncommitted guys, unless of course, you are certain.

If the CB guys really knew what was going on, they would have made their picks long before now.

And Crystal Balled AJ/Simmons to Ole Miss or Bama....

[HSVDawg]

This is one of our problems as well. If we can't lock down 1/2 of the top 12 in the state, then we need to cast a wider net. We frankly just do not have enough names left on the board for a class w/ only 15 commits. We have to almost hit 90% from here on out to have a full class.

I still don't get all these statements. We only have 15 commits, but we already have one more commitment than we even have spots available at present time (14). A lot of people are freaking out about this on both sides. The optimists are saying we don't have many names left on the board because we are super confident in all the big names. The pessimists are saying we don't have enough names left to be able to sign a full class. Both of those viewpoints are 100% false. On paper, our class is already as full as it can be for us in regards to the 85 man limit. How many big names come our way on signing day simply dictates how many guys we are going to have to process in the summer. Its not in any way indicative of our coaches' confidence in landing the remaining players on the board, nor is it a doomsday scenario for our class size.

[Dawgtini]

I still don't get all these statements. We only have 15 commits, but we already have one more commitment than we even have spots available at present time (14). A lot of people are freaking out about this on both sides. The optimists are saying we don't have many names left on the board because we are super confident in all the big names. The pessimists are saying we don't have enough names left to be able to sign a full class. Both of those viewpoints are 100% false. On paper, our class is already as full as it can be for us in regards to the 85 man limit. How many big names come our way on signing day simply dictates how many guys we are going to have to process in the summer. Its not in any way indicative of our coaches' confidence in landing the remaining players on the board, nor is it a doomsday scenario for our class size.

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[engie]

14 spots? You count extremely differently than the 64 returning scholarship players I count on the roster.

We generally sign to 87-88. Room for 23-24 exactly as everyone is saying.

[the59dawg]

I'm sorry, but that's chicken shit. He's dealing with the same issues that other schools are dealing with. Why is it a big thing that we wait until one more week to talk about the possibilities?

Well how much more can be said without knowing the results? Way too much B.S has been stated and threats made that that cannot possible be backed up. And so just how much choice do you have? Wake me up Wed am, becaause unless these guys verbally commit before then, you or I will not know. But I wish I did. Don't pee into the wind.

[Really Clark?]

3 Nigel knott cb's to om and Zach farrar to Oklahoma

Most of those were from UNM site and David Johnson

[HSVDawg]

14 spots? You count extremely differently than the 64 returning scholarship players I count on the roster.

We generally sign to 87-88. Room for 23-24 exactly as everyone is saying.

Here is my count of scholarship guys departing from last year's roster:
1) Will Redmond
2) Zach Jackson
3) Dak Prescott
4) Joe Morrow
5) Taveze Calhoun
6) Kendrick Market
7) Devon Bell
8) Ryan Brown
9) Justin Malone (counting him, but he may come back)
10) Rufus Warren
11) Damien Robinson
12) Darion Hutcherson
13) Keith Joseph (RIP)
14) Derunnya Wilson
15) Beniquez Brown
16) Chris Jones

The last time I counted was a few weeks ago before Beni declared, and I also forgot about Joseph so thats how I ended up at 14. But still, that's only 16 guys (possibly 15 if Malone comes back) leaving and we have 15 commitments. So if you are right about the 64 returnees, that means we did some self-imposed 5 scholarship probation and only dressed 80 scholarship players last year. If there's someone or something that I'm missing, please let me know.

[MSUDawg99]

Most of the people I talk to are confident, so I'm going to try to remain confident myself. That being said, I've always had a tough time buying the old "Mullen is planning a big finish" bit, for 2 reasons....

1. I'm just not sure Mullen is capable of getting multiple high profile guys to play that game.

2. Why would you risk pushing your biggest recruits to go to Bama & Ole Miss for the sake of a big(ger) announcement? That would be like privately asking your wife to marry you, but sending her to Tom Brady, Channing Tatum, & Brad Pitt's houses before you tell your family in order to "build suspense". It's ****ing stupid.

I just really hope on signing day we Arent trying to talk ourselves into a 3 star WR & a 3 star DT being equal to AJ & Simmons bc we missed on them. That would be very disappointing.

Yeah I'm not buying the whole Mullen is trying to build suspense narrative/guess either. He just doesnt seem the type to do that. I dont think we get AJ anymore cause he's not made any plans to OV here. If he were interested in BB too he'd have made an effort to meet Cohen & staff. He hasnt made any effort to do anything msu related. Think he's Bama bound & wanting to get out of Stark. Simmons is prob Usiss bound & I'm sure D. Brown to aub & Farrar to OK. R. Davis & Knott to Bama also.

[Dawgtini]

Here is my count of scholarship guys departing from last year's roster:
1) Will Redmond
2) Zach Jackson
3) Dak Prescott
4) Joe Morrow
5) Taveze Calhoun
6) Kendrick Market
7) Devon Bell
8) Ryan Brown
9) Justin Malone (counting him, but he may come back)
10) Rufus Warren
11) Damien Robinson
12) Darion Hutcherson
13) Keith Joseph (RIP)
14) Derunnya Wilson
15) Beniquez Brown
16) Chris Jones

The last time I counted was a few weeks ago before Beni declared, and I also forgot about Joseph so thats how I ended up at 14. But still, that's only 16 guys (possibly 15 if Malone comes back) leaving and we have 15 commitments. So if you are right about the 64 returnees, that means we did some self-imposed 5 scholarship probation and only dressed 80 scholarship players last year. If there's someone or something that I'm missing, please let me know.
I'm not doing all the research necessary but I know we have 5 commits already enrolled and some of them will count back to last year. I am sure there is "other attrition" that we will learn about beforeor after the spring.

[1bigdawg]

I'm not doing all the research necessary but I know we have 5 commits already enrolled and some of them will count back to last year. I am sure there is "other attrition" that we will learn about beforeor after the spring.

The issue is the 85 limit, so counting back does not matter.

[Dawgtini]

The issue is the 85 limit, so counting back does not matter.
Then I guess the coaches know as little about this as I do. You should approach them about giving them a hand.

[msstate7]

4 (2 om guys, 1 notre dame guy, and an fsu guy) CBs in the last 6 hours for knott to om. What's going on here?

[Big4Dawg]

Go look at their past CBs. They CB 5-6 a day based off the current trend.
http://247sports.com/User/Chris%20Nee/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.R ecruitment.Year=2016&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Footbal l
http://247sports.com/User/Tom%20Loy/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.R ecruitment.Year=2016&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Footbal l

CB is good in theory but terrible in execution. Kinda like Croom's west coach offense.

[Irondawg]

At this point this recruiting season can't get over fast enough

[maroonmania]

At this point this recruiting season can't get over fast enough

I'm just ready for signing day to get here so some of these folks will have a REAL reason to gripe OR we will be fairly satisfied with the result. I'm just sick of all these folks going off the deep end when NONE of our big targets have even committed to another school.

[engie]

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I don't think I saw BJ Hammond, Shelby Christy, Kent Flowers, Jahmere Irvin-Sills, Brandon Wells, Dez Harris(quite possibly for injuries), Dee Arrington, Gus Walley(quite possibly for injuries), nor Quadry Antoine on your list either.

[HancockCountyDog]

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I was told there would be no math.

[Really Clark?]

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I don't think I saw BJ Hammond, Shelby Christy, Kent Flowers, Jahmere Irvin-Sills, Brandon Wells, Dez Harris(quite possibly for injuries), Dee Arrington, Gus Walley(quite possibly for injuries), nor Quadry Antoine on your list either.

Dee was before this year. But also add Jake Thomas and Cole Carter.

[Dawgology]

Go look at their past CBs. They CB 5-6 a day based off the current trend.
http://247sports.com/User/Chris%20Nee/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.R ecruitment.Year=2016&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Footbal l
http://247sports.com/User/Tom%20Loy/Predictions?PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.R ecruitment.Year=2016&PlayerInstitution.PrimaryPlayerSport.Sport=Footbal l

CB is good in theory but terrible in execution. Kinda like Croom's west coach offense.

We are getting our butts handed to us in every conceivable way. Hell, USM got a 3 day visit from Simmons and they don't even have a coach. What did we get. Just freaking pitiful man. It's looking like this class might not be just the biggest bust of Mullen's career but the biggest bust in recent memory.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We are getting our butts handed to us in every conceivable way. Hell, USM got a 3 day visit from Simmons and they don't even have a coach. What did we get. Just freaking pitiful man. It's looking like this class might not be just the biggest bust of Mullen's career but the biggest bust in recent memory.

When did this 3 day visit to USM occur?

[Dawgology]

When did this 3 day visit to USM occur?

Been there today and won't be coming back till late Friday night. Unless I'm being lied to by a guy up there but he has no reason to lie. They know they don't have a chance (or a coach) and he's just down to see his brother. But still got a long visit.

[Mjoelner34]

Been there today and won't be coming back till late Friday night. Unless I'm being lied to by a guy up there but he has no reason to lie. They know they don't have a chance (or a coach) and he's just down to see his brother. But still got a long visit.

Must have left after school because Saban was there today to see him. A girl from Macon in my office got a picture texted to her of Simmons, Saban and somebody else at the school.

[HSVDawg]

I already explained that your numbers were based on a false premise. I didn't need you to extrapolate your false premise for me, nor does counting backwards from a false theoretical worthy of examination of particulars.

I don't think I saw BJ Hammond, Shelby Christy, Kent Flowers, Jahmere Irvin-Sills, Brandon Wells, Dez Harris(quite possibly for injuries), Dee Arrington, Gus Walley(quite possibly for injuries), nor Quadry Antoine on your list either.

So in other words, we were under "self-imposed" probation because of too much attrition, like I said in my original post. We basically dressed 80 scholarship players last year and that includes redshirts. Missing on all those guys you mentioned is way more discouraging than any of the doomsday scenarios I've read about next Wednesday. Some of that is beyond our control (like with Joseph and Jake Thomas), but the point remains.

[Dawgology]

It was around 4 that he told me so probably so.

[msstate7]

Seems like there would be a rule against these mid-week OV's. These kids are still students

[Mjoelner34]

He better get back soon because Paul said Mullen and Turner have an in-home with him tomorrow.

[17thebears]

Raekwon just doesn't know how to tell people no. On signing day his name will be on a MSU LOI.

Looks spot on IMO.

[engie]

So in other words, we were under "self-imposed" probation because of too much attrition, like I said in my original post. We basically dressed 80 scholarship players last year and that includes redshirts. Missing on all those guys you mentioned is way more discouraging than any of the doomsday scenarios I've read about next Wednesday. Some of that is beyond our control (like with Joseph and Jake Thomas), but the point remains.

Wanna know how I can tell you are brand new to this?

[msstate7]

Looks spot on IMO.

Either you're a troll or just a miserable person.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looks spot on IMO.

Lol had that 1 in the saved draft huh

[17thebears]

Don't take your anger out on me. Get mad at those who gave you all the false hope.

[Dawgtini]

Wanna know how I can tell you are brand new to this?
Is it that new car smell?

***

[bulldawg28]

You guys are worried too much over teenage talent that mostly won't pan out. IMO, AJ and maybe Lashley are the only players that could hurt us as opponents.

[msstate7]

Don't take your anger out on me. Get mad at those who gave you all the false hope.

You're bumping old posts to call out some of our better recruiting guys. Let's hear your prediction for...

Simmons
Aj
Knott
Farrar
Cushenberry
Dowdell
Turnier
Kobe

Put your own record out there

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Don't take your anger out on me. Get mad at those who gave you all the false hope.

lol anger? I can tell you don't know me very well. Kids & a message board can't make me angry. I don't know you.

[17thebears]

lol anger? I can tell you don't know me very well. Kids & a message board can't make me angry. I don't know you.

You're right, I don't know you at all; however, my post was in response to msstate7.

[Really Clark?]

Looks spot on IMO.

Enforcer, it's time.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You're right, I don't know you at all; however, my post was in response to msstate7.

My bad

[17thebears]

Enforcer, it's time.

Haha dude, I have over 6k posts on SEC Rant and over 1k on SPS under this username. Don't get mad because you don't like what I'm saying.

[maroonmania]

Interesting that we've had 3 different players in this class commit to us from Meridian only to see all of them to eventually decommit.

[msstate7]

Jc schurburtt CB'd knott to om now. That's 5 today. Obviously there's something up with knott to om. Losing him to bama would sting. Losing him to om would just plain hurt

[state66]

Insiders give me good news dammit!****

[Really Clark?]

Haha dude, I have over 6k posts on SEC Rant and over 1k on SPS under this username. Don't get mad because you don't like what I'm saying.

You haven't posted in over a month until yesterday. A lot of stupid and/or negative crap and you are saving posts and bumping threads you were not even involved in. Take your ass back to those places and troll them.

[tcdog70]

Saban was in Macon . And now Davis says Roll Tide. Trying to be positive but it looks dim.

[ShotgunDawg]

Insiders give me good news dammit!****

Your not going to get good news until, hopefully, on signing day.

I'm not sure if it's the majors that MSU offers or what, but we have got to be the most pessimistic fan base in the country. Not only that, but we have tons of little brother in us that is at all times worried about the worst case scenario.

If your looking for good news, then your part of the wrong fan base.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Gotta give bears credit they are not changing their philosophy no matter what. They all in

[Really Clark?]

Insiders give me good news dammit!****

Lashley sent this out a little while ago on Twitter.

Had ah great visit yesterday with MSU #Hailstate

[BankerDog]

I swear...some of you guys need to back off the ledge and go spend time with your wife and kids. There's so much more to life than football recruiting. This past week is another example of why our fanbase gets talked about so much. Too many paranoid people that believe everything that is said to them by folks.

FWIW..Starkville HS has never been the strong hold that many people think it is. Just keep that in mind.

[state66]

The little brother thing pisses me off. People sit here and wonder why we are pissed and bitching. Weve gotten whooped by ole miss in football for consecutive years. Baseball for consecutive years. Basketball for three years. And out recruited since 2012. Im sorry but when youre getting your ass kicked you arent the alpha male anymore. You think we are sitting here crying foul if we have won in football for two consecutive years? **** no.

[Really Clark?]

Gonzo and Johnson bumped their visit with Farrar up to today instead of tomorrow. Looks like all or nearly all are available here tomorrow I believe.

[Dawgology]

Gonzo and Johnson bumped their visit with Farrar up to today instead of tomorrow. Looks like all or nearly all are available here tomorrow I believe.

That's some good news. I messed up and listened to the boneyard today on BSR. Rosie is one pessimistic mofo right now. Basically said we aren't expected to get any of the bigs left on the board that they are all deciding between Bama and OM. If that's the case...we are ****ed and officially being left behind.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Rosie is going to feel like an idiot a week from today

[Bothrops]

That's some good news. I messed up and listened to the boneyard today on BSR. Rosie is one pessimistic mofo right now. Basically said we aren't expected to get any of the bigs left on the board that they are all deciding between Bama and OM. If that's the case...we are ****ed and officially being left behind.

There are definitely some bizarre things going on. I'm at a point where I'm not getting pissed about it anymore, I'm getting weirded out now.

[HSVDawg]

Wanna know how I can tell you are brand new to this?

Do you try to just invent arguments where they don't even exist? What is your point? Hammond / Christy / Thomas / Wells / Irvin-Sills / Flowers weren't huge busts? We didn't miss on those guys (whether it be academics, injury, or otherwise)? Finding 5 or 6 walk-ons to give scholarships to is the norm for any Power 5 school every single season? Why don't you explain what I'm missing, since I'm so new to this and all.

[Dawg61]

Do you try to just invent arguments where they don't even exist? What is your point? Hammond / Christy / Thomas / Wells / Irvin-Sills / Flowers weren't huge busts? We didn't miss on those guys (whether it be academics, injury, or otherwise)? Finding 5 or 6 walk-ons to give scholarships to is the norm for any Power 5 school every single season? Why don't you explain what I'm missing, since I'm so new to this and all.

Why are you confusing yourself? You don't magically sit at 85 scholarships for an entire year. You gradually dip below that based on how many players will be leaving at the end of the year. MSU doing that enables us to sign 23-25 new players every year. You don't just sign 14 guys to replace 14 guys. You figure out the extra 8 guys you need to process and get that accomplished in time to add 23-25 more guys. Every year you do that. Next year we will have it right around that number again. Then again. Then again.

[engie]

Why are you confusing yourself? You don't magically sit at 85 scholarships for an entire year. You gradually dip below that based on how many players will be leaving at the end of the year. MSU doing that enables us to sign 23-25 new players every year. You don't just sign 14 guys to replace 14 guys. You figure out the extra 8 guys you need to process and get that accomplished in time to add 23-25 more guys. Every year you do that. Next year we will have it right around that number again. Then again. Then again.

It's really amazingly simple isn't it...

[engie]

Do you try to just invent arguments where they don't even exist? What is your point? Hammond / Christy / Thomas / Wells / Irvin-Sills / Flowers weren't huge busts? We didn't miss on those guys (whether it be academics, injury, or otherwise)? Finding 5 or 6 walk-ons to give scholarships to is the norm for any Power 5 school every single season? Why don't you explain what I'm missing, since I'm so new to this and all.
Is this guy serious?

They must not be huge busts. Since by your initial math -- they all still hold roster spots that prevent us from signing new guys in this class. 15 spots and we're full was your twice-made initial stance. But you are moving the goalposts in order to complain about something new now.

Yes -- It's absolutely common for teams to finish the season at 75-80 scholarship players prior to dealing with the draft/graduation. But I guess you think teams actually graduate 25 players every year so they can sign full classes and miraculously still manage to stay under the 85 man limit. Hence how -- if you had followed this trend for any period of time whatsoever -- you would realize we are actually prettymuch in the center of the normal range. We'll probably only have to process 2 or 3 this year. The 85 number is only applicable to anyone the second week of August. Nobody finishes the season with 85.

[HSVDawg]

Is this guy serious?

They must not be huge busts. Since by your initial math -- they all still hold roster spots that prevent us from signing new guys in this class. 15 spots and we're full was your twice-made initial stance. But you are moving the goalposts in order to complain about something new now.

Yes -- It's absolutely common for teams to finish the season at 75-80 scholarship players prior to dealing with the draft/graduation. But I guess you think teams actually graduate 25 players every year so they can sign full classes and miraculously still manage to stay under the 85 man limit. Hence how -- if you had followed this trend for any period of time whatsoever -- you would realize we are actually prettymuch in the center of the normal range. We'll probably only have to process 2 or 3 this year. The 85 number is only applicable to anyone the second week of August. Nobody finishes the season with 85.

I have no illusions about 25 guys leaving every year to make the numbers fit. I know how the system works.

I'm also not talking about finishing with 85. I'm talking about beginning the season with 85. You counted 64 returnees (which was correct). I counted 15-16 departures (also correct). I then noted that if both of us are correct, then where did the other 5 guys go? We didn't lose them over Christmas break. All the guys you named were gone before 8/2/15 except Hammond who left in September. Shit, Arrington and Wells were gone in 2014. So, we BEGAN fall camp with roughly 80-81 able bodied guys on scholarship and lost another guy within a few months. In my opinion, you should at least start the year with 85 scholarship guys or somewhat close to it. If not, you've experienced too much attrition in at least one recruiting cycle.

To my detriment, I incorrectly assumed we were close to that number when I thought we would only have 15-16 spots available for this class. I was surprised to know how many open spots we actually had on the roster all last season because I did not recall that many guys leaving the team during the season (Hammond being the only one).

In the end, I'm also surprised at you arguing so vehemently about it because you yourself have recently mentioned the high attrition rate (specifically from the 2013 class) as being a problem, which is a point I happen to agree with. In either case, its refreshing to argue about something other than the current recruiting class, so I'll give you that. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

[Really Clark?]

Doesn't look like we will be bringing in Dowdle this weekend for an OV. Reese will find out for sure about FSU tonight but it looks like he will be looking elsewhere to play. We sit really good with him.

[Big4Dawg]

Not in D Browns top 3. Bama, auburn, and Tenn.

Un****ing believe Mullen

[ShotgunDawg]

Not in D Browns top 3. Bama, auburn, and Tenn.

Un****ing believe Mullen

Unreal....

We are completely incompetent. For me, Mullen is reaping what he sowed. When you whore yourself out for other jobs, it destroys your ability recruit.

This is just looking like a complete disaster of a recruiting year for our staff. Completely unacceptable in this conference.

If we do poorly next week, Mullen will lose much of the fan base that he's worked so hard to build.

There's no excuse for this. Mullen has turned to Croom

[bulldawg28]

Unreal....

We are completely incompetent. For me, Mullen is reaping what he sowed. When you whore yourself out for other jobs, it destroys your ability recruit.

This is just looking like a complete disaster of a recruiting year for our staff. Completely unacceptable in this conference.

If we do poorly next week, Mullen will lose much of the fan base that he's worked so hard to build.

There's no excuse for this. Mullen has turned to Croom

Your a bioplar guy huh? One day your on the wagon the next day you're not. Dude pick a side and stay there. From the very beginning no-one thought we had a shot at Brown, so why are you crying? The coaches recruited him regardless and actually made him consider MSU. Quit being a baby!

[ShotgunDawg]

Your a bioplar guy huh? One day your on the wagon the next day you're not. Dude pick a side and stay there. From the very beginning no-one thought we had a shot at Brown, so why are you crying? The coaches recruited him regardless and actually made him consider MSU. Quit being a baby!

Dude you really need to STFU.

This isn't my fault or any other fans fault. We care, that's all.

Don't throw fire at fans. Throw it at Dan, the coaching staff, Stricklin, and Keenum. Those are the ones to blame, not me.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Dude you really need to STFU.

This isn't my fault or any other fans fault. We care, that's all.

Don't throw fire at fans. Throw it at Dan, the coaching staff, Stricklin, and Keenum. Those are the ones to blame, not me.

Shotgun I'm telling you this as a message board friend, step away for a little while. You've gotten too emotionally involved & attached. Take a break for a day or 2 off all message boards. Go do something else that you love & take your mind off recruiting. It's really consuming you right now. Just words from a message board friend.

[NeshobaChuck]

Were are yal seeing he narrowed it down to those 3 I'm not seeing that anywhere

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

I blame Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, global warming, Isis, Hugh freezes dentist, Leann Touhys stylist, Hollywood, hot house tomatoes, scooba dawg(jk), beast man, Madison central, peeping Croom, Tyson Lee's inseam, Stansbury, Pepsi Cola, lite Beer, Bracky, Hack, shotgun for not taking a side, Matt Luke's Gynocologist, size limits on striped bass, Yankees, tea without sugar, Steve Robertson, Paul Jones, Pauls Hair Band buddy, David, Gene(although you gotta admire a cat that found his style in the 70's and rode it to the end), Logan Lowerys Negativity, and last but not least Coach34 for calling out the flag ship on their recruiting.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun I'm telling you this as a message board friend, step away for a little while. You've gotten too emotionally involved & attached. Take a break for a day or 2 off all message boards. Go do something else that you love & take your mind off recruiting. It's really consuming you right now. Just words from a message board friend.

Agree

Point remains though, MSU fans bashing MSU fans does nothing address the real issues

[Dawgtini]

Unreal....

We are completely incompetent. For me, Mullen is reaping what he sowed. When you whore yourself out for other jobs, it destroys your ability recruit.

This is just looking like a complete disaster of a recruiting year for our staff. Completely unacceptable in this conference.

If we do poorly next week, Mullen will lose much of the fan base that he's worked so hard to build.

There's no excuse for this. Mullen has turned to Croom
Xanax is t working for you anymore. Maybe you need to switch to lithium.

[msstate7]

Were are yal seeing he narrowed it down to those 3 I'm not seeing that anywhere

Back already? Haha

[NeshobaChuck]

Back already? Haha

Kinda lol took yesterday off just saw this and looked around and wasn't finding this

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Agree

Point remains though, MSU fans bashing MSU fans does nothing address the real issues

That's true but neither is you spazzing on multiple message boards 6 days before signing day.

[Commercecomet24]

So now we find out from Derrick Brown himself that he never gave anybody his "top 3". So we just had people meltdown over something that wasn't even true. Not saying we get Derrick but to meltdown over something that he didn't even say is insane. People are taking this recruiting way to seriously and getting way to emotional.

[Really Clark?]

The plan is for AJ to visit today. We will see if it gets worked out to happen

[HancockCountyDog]

So Derrick Brown hasn't announced a top 3 - it was an "inside source", don't stop from freaking out though.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

That particular source is always wrong on 247

[Really Clark?]

Mullen and the entire defensive staff visited Brown last night for his in home. Unless I have missed something, which is possible with how visits go, everyone should be in today for AJ and Simmons.

[maroonmania]

So, I'm starting to wonder, could we improve our recruiting if we could get the NCAA to put us under investigation? Its certainly seems to have been a boon to a certain school up the road.

[bulldawg28]

Dude you really need to STFU.

This isn't my fault or any other fans fault. We care, that's all.

Don't throw fire at fans. Throw it at Dan, the coaching staff, Stricklin, and Keenum. Those are the ones to blame, not me.


Lol...throwing fire? You can't blame anyone from doing what they want to do. Your stalking kids then get upset with another man about that kids choice. Any by the way Brown said he didn't speak with anyone. You're wayyyyyy too emotional Jack.

[bobcat91]

All you guys on the cliff please jump. You look ridiculous and make our fans base look like idiots. Go away until after signing day.

[Dawg61]

Unreal....

We are completely incompetent. For me, Mullen is reaping what he sowed. When you whore yourself out for other jobs, it destroys your ability recruit.

This is just looking like a complete disaster of a recruiting year for our staff. Completely unacceptable in this conference.

If we do poorly next week, Mullen will lose much of the fan base that he's worked so hard to build.

There's no excuse for this. Mullen has turned to Croom

12 guys drafted in 2 years. How many times we done that before Shitgun? Please sign up to Nafoom today

[Really Clark?]

We have offered Reese's little brother a 2018 recruit.

[Statefan]

Unreal....

We are completely incompetent. For me, Mullen is reaping what he sowed. When you whore yourself out for other jobs, it destroys your ability recruit.

This is just looking like a complete disaster of a recruiting year for our staff. Completely unacceptable in this conference.

If we do poorly next week, Mullen will lose much of the fan base that he's worked so hard to build.

There's no excuse for this. Mullen has turned to Croom

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Michael-Jordan-laughing.gif

[jumbo]

Reese has cancelled his FSU visit and will announce Monday. That should be a good sign for us.

[tcdog70]

Dan has proven that He is a great evaluater of talent. He was the one that found Sean Rawlings and knew he was SEC talent. To bad he plays for the Rebs. He took the Bear, as raw as He was and made Him a force to be dealt with. Sure we need to sign Simmons, Lasley, AJ and Jones. (and I think we get some of them) but I feel Dan will sign players that will make Us competitive in the SEC WEST. I think He has bolstered our ability to recruit on a higher level with his last two Hires to His staff. I think he will hire another very good recruiter soon. We will win at least 8 games next Year and I feel very confident that our Program is on the Rise. We need to quit worrying about the Rebs and focus on all things Bulldog. I hope on signing Day we will have a group that will make us proud.

[HancockCountyDog]

Unreal....

We are completely incompetent. For me, Mullen is reaping what he sowed. When you whore yourself out for other jobs, it destroys your ability recruit.

This is just looking like a complete disaster of a recruiting year for our staff. Completely unacceptable in this conference.

If we do poorly next week, Mullen will lose much of the fan base that he's worked so hard to build.

There's no excuse for this. Mullen has turned to Croom


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2CR4JjEccwo/Ueyduh-Wk3I/AAAAAAAABIQ/ykDVQXmkh_o/s1600/chase+exorcist.gif

[EnterpriseDawg]

I'd like to know what info is making rounds, because some of the more positive people on here with regards to recruiting have become sour to this class and/or coaching staff.

[Shooter McGavin]

Enterprise, I'm right there with you. Conflicting info coming from everywhere. IYOK and Elitedawgsrecruiting still feel good about things. Cadaver and Shotgun have apparently jumped off the ledge. Paul Jones still feels confident we get AJ Brown. There ends everything I know.

[HancockCountyDog]

Someone point me to a non Ole Miss affiliated site/reporter that is saying AJ to Bama or OM.

[NeedMoreCowbell]

I've noticed the resentment toward CDM about neglecting recruiting because of looking for a new gig (after we bumped his salary waaaay up). Now is not the time for that discussion, but a week from today will be.

[jumbo]

Someone point me to a non Ole Miss affiliated site/reporter that is saying AJ to Bama or OM.


You'll find that with the quotes from AJ saying I don't want to play at MSU and I want to get out of Starkville. #Doesn'tExist

[jumbo]

New offer out to 2016 composite 4* DB Shurod Thompson from Brentwood, CA. http://247sports.com/Player/Shurod-Thompson-34640

[HSVDawg]

Enterprise, I'm right there with you. Conflicting info coming from everywhere. IYOK and Elitedawgsrecruiting still feel good about things. Cadaver and Shotgun have apparently jumped off the ledge. Paul Jones still feels confident we get AJ Brown. There ends everything I know.

I think this year has likely been the most unpredictable recruiting year in recent memory. Many inside sources have changed their tune on our chances with multiple guys since December. Its also not a coincidence multiple posters on different message boards (who presumably don't know each other personally) all started coming out with negative outlooks on our remaining prospects right around the same time earlier this week. Truth is, there are in fact many posters that aren't too far removed from the big money guys who do know what is going on, even if they don't regularly discuss it or pretend to be experts. It takes some reading between the lines to know when information is starting to trickle out from the movers and shakers behind the scenes.

[msstate7]

New offer out to 2016 composite 4* DB Shurod Thompson from Brentwood, CA. http://247sports.com/Player/Shurod-Thompson-34640

Going after Oregon state guys aren't we?

[msstate7]

Is turnier a priority? If so, how likely are we to sign him?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

New offer out to 2016 composite 4* DB Shurod Thompson from Brentwood, CA. http://247sports.com/Player/Shurod-Thompson-34640

Nice sized kid good athlete. Look like he could stay at Safety or even grow into an OLB.

[Commercecomet24]

Nice sized kid good athlete. Look like he could stay at Safety or even grow into an OLB.

You still feeling good about next week? Need to hear from the voice of reason. Thanks for all your info and I personally feel like we close strong.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You still feeling good about next week? Need to hear from the voice of reason. Thanks for all your info and I personally feel like we close strong.

I could be 100% wrong on all these kids but I haven't been told anything to make me panic & stress out about anybody. If I'm wrong I have no problem admitting that but right now I feel good on a strong close.

[Commercecomet24]

I could be 100% wrong on all these kids but I haven't been told anything to make me panic & stress out about anybody. If I'm wrong I have no problem admitting that but right now I feel good on a strong close.

Thank you! Thats all I needed to hear. You are pretty dang accurate on everything you post. Thanks for all the info and updates. Much appreciated!

[EnterpriseDawg]

Enterprise, I'm right there with you. Conflicting info coming from everywhere. IYOK and Elitedawgsrecruiting still feel good about things. Cadaver and Shotgun have apparently jumped off the ledge. Paul Jones still feels confident we get AJ Brown. There ends everything I know.

Well I guess we'll find out how we stand as a program Wednesday. We either continue to progress or take a step backwards while the pricks up north continue to make strides. Yes, I do care what they do as it has bearing on our success. We do recruit from the same grounds.

[Dawgtini]

Dan has proven that He is a great evaluater of talent. He was the one that found Sean Rawlings and knew he was SEC talent. To bad he plays for the Rebs. He took the Bear, as raw as He was and made Him a force to be dealt with. Sure we need to sign Simmons, Lasley, AJ and Jones. (and I think we get some of them) but I feel Dan will sign players that will make Us competitive in the SEC WEST. I think He has bolstered our ability to recruit on a higher level with his last two Hires to His staff. I think he will hire another very good recruiter soon. We will win at least 8 games next Year and I feel very confident that our Program is on the Rise. We need to quit worrying about the Rebs and focus on all things Bulldog. I hope on signing Day we will have a group that will make us proud.
We will have a group that will make us proud. No need to hope. Some folks may want to hope for starzzzzz to make them feel better, but you covered it above that we will get and develop talent. Regardless of starzzzz.

[Shooter McGavin]

I get the vibe from IYOK posts that if things were falling apart he would say as much and not attempt to blow sunshine up our asses. He's proven to be knowledgeable about recruiting and if he feels good about a strong close, I like our chances.

[maroonmania]

I get the vibe from IYOK posts that if things were falling apart he would say as much and not attempt to blow sunshine up our asses. He's proven to be knowledgeable about recruiting and if he feels good about a strong close, I like our chances.

Agreed, just hoping its not a case of where our HC is the last to know. ***

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Agreed, just hoping its not a case of where our HC is the last to know. ***

LOL that made me laugh.

[Commercecomet24]

I get the vibe from IYOK posts that if things were falling apart he would say as much and not attempt to blow sunshine up our asses. He's proven to be knowledgeable about recruiting and if he feels good about a strong close, I like our chances.

Exactly right. IYOK has always been straight forward and frank even when it wasn't great news. One of the few posters on here who doesn't blow sunshine or meltdown, always just brings the facts. His info has always been extremely accurate.

[EliteGrinder]

Nice sized kid good athlete. Look like he could stay at Safety or even grow into an OLB.

How much does he weigh?

[Really Clark?]

How much does he weigh?

205? I think according to the sites. Bout the same weight as Moon just shorter.

[ShotgunDawg]

Anyone know who Buckley is with today?

He seems excited on Twitter

[msstate7]

Anyone know who Buckley is with today?

He seems excited on Twitter

What's he saying?

[state66]

@27TBuck: The Sip..!! Yes!! Go Dawgs!!

[Really Clark?]

Anyone know who Buckley is with today?

He seems excited on Twitter

Simmons was suppose to be today and AJ suppose to visit

[CadaverDawg]

Simmons was suppose to be today and AJ suppose to visit

Would be huge if he was talking about those two. Hopefully things are changing.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Trust me you don't want things to change. Anyone telling you any different is lost

[Tripp McNeely]

Trust me you don't want things to change. Anyone telling you any different is lost

Boom!!

[Commercecomet24]

Trust me you don't want things to change. Anyone telling you any different is lost

I like what you're saying!

[ScoobaDawg]

I blame Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, global warming, Isis, Hugh freezes dentist, Leann Touhys stylist, Hollywood, hot house tomatoes, scooba dawg(jk), beast man, Madison central, peeping Croom, Tyson Lee's inseam, Stansbury, Pepsi Cola, lite Beer, Bracky, Hack, shotgun for not taking a side, Matt Luke's Gynocologist, size limits on striped bass, Yankees, tea without sugar, Steve Robertson, Paul Jones, Pauls Hair Band buddy, David, Gene(although you gotta admire a cat that found his style in the 70's and rode it to the end), Logan Lowerys Negativity, and last but not least Coach34 for calling out the flag ship on their recruiting.


I'll take the side of whomever gives me the best beer.

[msstate7]

Will we get Thompson (California kid we offered today) on a visit this weekend?

[Bdawg]

Trust me you don't want things to change. Anyone telling you any different is lost

Man you are a breath of fresh air right now. Thanks. Hope things turn out just the way you feel right now. How strong is your feeling that things WON'T change?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Supposedly he's in some sort of tourney or all-star game and can't visit this weekend. Not sure how that's going to work out. Maybe we should just tell him we have the grove and the world's most beautiful campus. That should do it. No visit needed.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Man you are a breath of fresh air right now. Thanks. Hope things turn out just the way you feel right now. How strong is your feeling that things WON'T change?
Let's see. I could claim they all leaning our way and then post about how it's still a fluid situation. Wait David did that cause he don't have a damn clue.

I feel good about it. Really good. If I am wrong I will come here Wednesday and say I am wrong. Won't take about fluids, last minute changes, but outs, or fixed elections. Fair enough?

[Bdawg]

Let's see. I could claim they all leaning our way and then post about how it's still a fluid situation. Wait David did that cause he don't have a damn clue.

I feel good about it. Really good. If I am wrong I will come here Wednesday and say I am wrong. Won't take about fluids, last minute changes, but outs, or fixed elections. Fair enough?
Yep. Now I just hope you don't have to come on here say you were wrong. Thanks for sharing your info. Might help settle the nerves of some of us not in the loop and chill some people out on this board.

[Dawgtini]

Gonna close scrong! HailState! HailYeah!

[preachermatt83]

I really like the way EliteDawgsRecruiting stands by what he says.

[msstate7]

Anybody got a list of visitors this weekend?

[GumpDawg]

Anybody got a list of visitors this weekend?

Good question is Hankerson it? Dowdell is out and the Thompson kid has a conflict.

[HancockCountyDog]

Rumor on Bama boards that Knott is in Tuscaloosa today. Apparently was there yesterday and may be there a good bit today. No idea if true, just passing along what Im being told by a Bama friend. I have no idea where this Knott to the bears talk is coming from, but Im hearing that is pure smoke that rebel site people are putting out there.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

isn't he visiting the "big party" this weekend in Oxford? If so that is where all this crap is coming from.....These guys making predictions realize that OM is going to go all out for these guys this weekend so they are all placing their bets on OM. Might see some changes in CBs Monday or Tuesday.

[chef dixon]

Ole Miss media has successfully stirred the pot and MSU fans did what they hoped and melted down. I don't understand how mid week we all the sudden aren't in the running for anyone anymore. Again, could end up being wrong, but just sounds like a bunch of smoke to me.

[MSUDawg99]

Rumor on Bama boards that Knott is in Tuscaloosa today. Apparently was there yesterday and may be there a good bit today. No idea if true, just passing along what Im being told by a Bama friend. I have no idea where this Knott to the bears talk is coming from, but Im hearing that is pure smoke that rebel site people are putting out there.

My friend is his neighbor in Gluckstadt & she has talked to him & his mom/family. It's b/w us & Bama. "He's very torn about where he's going" were her exact words via text. But Ole Siss wasn't even in the discussion. Don't shoot the messenger. I know my source may not be credible & I may be crucified for even saying it.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

No!....... Positive rumors are encouraged here...

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Now OM people are saying because Simmons tweeted "I will be committing to the University of _____________" this takes MSU out of the equation....BUT
What was it that Leo Lewis said last year when he committed? Wow this is starting to sound like Leo 2.0.

[Dawgtini]

Thanks for the info 99!

[MSUDawg99]

Now OM people are saying because Simmons tweeted "I will be committing to the University of _____________" this takes MSU out of the equation....BUT
What was it that Leo Lewis said last year when he committed? Wow this is starting to sound like Leo 2.0.

Malik Newman said the "University of Mississippi State" when he committed but I think he was nervous & just said it by mistake..don't think he did that on purpose. Not sure if that's what you were referring to?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Now OM people are saying because Simmons tweeted "I will be committing to the University of _____________" this takes MSU out of the equation....BUT
What was it that Leo Lewis said last year when he committed? Wow this is starting to sound like Leo 2.0.

That's a lot of reaching & assuming & hoping with that theory.

[maroonmania]

Ole Miss media has successfully stirred the pot and MSU fans did what they hoped and melted down. I don't understand how mid week we all the sudden aren't in the running for anyone anymore. Again, could end up being wrong, but just sounds like a bunch of smoke to me.

Apparently MSU media are in on the conspiracy to cause MSU fans to meltdown as well.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

It's going to be an exciting, stressful, & a day full of fireworks Wednesday. Hopefully more good than bad.

[Shooter McGavin]

Apparently MSU media are in on the conspiracy to cause MSU fans to meltdown as well.

Has someone else other than Rosebowl joined in the it's all going south woe is us mentality?

[Commercecomet24]

That's a lot of reaching & assuming & hoping with that theory.

Hope you're meaning the OM folks are reaching and assuming.

[ShotgunDawg]

Btw, we appear to only be bringing in one guy this weekend. Hankerson.

That should tell you all you need to know abou how our coaches feel going into signing day.

[GumpDawg]

Has someone else other than Rosebowl joined in the it's all going south woe is us mentality?

Not really. I don't want our website guys acting like the Bears acting like everything is cake and candy but damn sometimes Rosie just needs to learn when to shut up and let the cards fall before saying somethings. His whole pat myself on the back post regarding AJ and getting him invited to the UA Allstar game was a bit much imo. Why post that now? Not trying to pile on ole Rosie but some things just need to be held until after NSD before stroking egos. the 247 guys seem to be laying low here lately. Not sure how to take that.

[Really Clark?]

Not really. I don't want our website guys acting like the Bears acting like everything is cake and candy but damn sometimes Rosie just needs to learn when to shut up and let the cards fall before saying somethings. His whole pat myself on the back post regarding AJ and getting him invited to the UA Allstar game was a bit much imo. Why post that now? Not trying to pile on ole Rosie but some things just need to be held until after NSD before stroking egos. the 247 guys seem to be laying low here lately. Not sure how to take that.

Here is how I take it, when the staff or the player asks Paul to sit on something, he sits on it. How many commit articles in the past has he written days prior and posts it right when the announcement is made. Even on kids that were a surprise committing right then. I think he has the best access to the staff on info and largely is because he is a respected straight shooter. I have no idea if he is sitting on a bunch of info that is positive or negative for us right now. But I'm willing to bet there are several things he is keeping quite on.

[Johnson85]

Btw, we appear to only be bringing in one guy this weekend. Hankerson.

That should tell you all you need to know abou how our coaches feel going into signing day.

Somebody is getting played, that's for sure. Can't believe our coaches are that naive. I think it's a combination of UM "media" liking to pump sunshine, recruits giving Rosie bad info to make him look bad because he annoys the shit out of them. I think we'll definitely have some downside surprises because that's just the way things go, but the coaches must be pretty damn sure to not be bringing in any backups. If UM has convinced a lot of MSU recruits to lie to the MSU Staff about where they're going to leave the school in the lurch on signing day, the rivalry is about to get a lot nastier.

[ShotgunDawg]

Rosebowl is saying on the Boneyard today that AJ Brown's father met with our staff yesterday, but AJ did not. Said AJ may visit with our staff today. Seems odd, and I'm curious if Rosebowl has correct info.

He still maintains that Alabama is the team to beat. Hopefully he is wrong

[maroonmania]

Not really. I don't want our website guys acting like the Bears acting like everything is cake and candy but damn sometimes Rosie just needs to learn when to shut up and let the cards fall before saying somethings. His whole pat myself on the back post regarding AJ and getting him invited to the UA Allstar game was a bit much imo. Why post that now? Not trying to pile on ole Rosie but some things just need to be held until after NSD before stroking egos. the 247 guys seem to be laying low here lately. Not sure how to take that.

Yep, Rosebowl is the worst, and Paul and Robbie apparently have maybe some guarded optimism (though I'm not currently a paying member on either site). Of course then we also have a lot of longtime MSU posters here on this board that are VERY doom and gloom. So I am personally not melting down YET but I can understand why some have been based on the available information outlets. I still don't understand why some here feel they HAVE to post their rants on a public MSU forum though a few days ahead of signing day. One, that is not helping with any prospects that are still undecided and two, there will be plenty of time for that after signing day.

[GumpDawg]

Rosebowl is saying on the Boneyard today that AJ Brown's father met with our staff yesterday, but AJ did not. Said AJ may visit with our staff today. Seems odd, and I'm curious if Rosebowl has correct info.

He still maintains that Alabama is the team to beat. Hopefully he is wrong

who knows anymore but as much as I like the boneyard concept he should shut it down until after signing day. Just say you don't feel confident in AJ and quite trying to prove to everyone you were first to be right he isn't coming to state. I mean do you need that badge of glory? We are terrible at all pulling the rope together in the same direction.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

Has someone else other than Rosebowl joined in the it's all going south woe is us mentality?

Hadad joined in the pity party on BSR today but the only sources he cited were Steve & "ole miss people"

[maroonmania]

who knows anymore but as much as I like the boneyard concept he should shut it down until after signing day. Just say you don't feel confident in AJ and quite trying to prove to everyone you were first to be right he isn't coming to state. I mean do you need that badge of glory? We are terrible at all pulling the rope together in the same direction.

As has been said REPEATEDLY, Rosebowl is about Rosebowl and his own "street cred" first and foremost and if it helps MSU that's fine but he is not and never will be a "do no harm" to MSU type guy.

[ShotgunDawg]

who knows anymore but as much as I like the boneyard concept he should shut it down until after signing day. Just say you don't feel confident in AJ and quite trying to prove to everyone you were first to be right he isn't coming to state. I mean do you need that badge of glory? We are terrible at all pulling the rope together in the same direction.

He's still one pessimistic guy today. Says "it would be unbelievable if MSU finishes in the top 30".

Those expectations bother me after how far our program has come.

That being said though, I trust what IYOK and ED Recruiting are saying.

What does somewhat bother me though, is that Rosey seems to be getting info on AJ quicker than other sites.

[GumpDawg]

What does somewhat bother me though, is that Rosey seems to be getting info on AJ quicker than other sites.

Or others just know how to let it play out and keep their mouth shut. Good or bad

[ShotgunDawg]

Or others just know how to let it play out and keep their mouth shut. Good or bad

Maybe. Not sure

[maroonmania]

Btw, we appear to only be bringing in one guy this weekend. Hankerson.

That should tell you all you need to know abou how our coaches feel going into signing day.

This should be the true sign here. EITHER our coaches are very confident with the guys that are still up in the air OR they are perfectly satisfied to sign a VERY small class this year if things don't go well. Its certainly one or the other.

[Really Clark?]

Btw, we appear to only be bringing in one guy this weekend. Hankerson.

That should tell you all you need to know abou how our coaches feel going into signing day.

We are also bringing in a preferred walk-on OL from TN this weekend with Hankerson. On Thompson, the new offer that went out yesterday, per Paul he is playing in an event in TX on Sat so unless they make the trip afterward's he probably won't get to make it this weekend. He definitely wants to talk with his family about the new offer though.

[ShotgunDawg]

We are also bringing in a preferred walk-on OL from TN this weekend with Hankerson. On Thompson, the new offer that went out yesterday, per Paul he is playing in an event in TX on Sat so unless they make the trip afterward's he probably won't get to make it this weekend. He definitely wants to talk with his family about the new offer though.

Couldn't he visit after signing day?

Apparently, playing in the SEC is his dream

[HancockCountyDog]

We are also bringing in a preferred walk-on OL from TN this weekend with Hankerson. On Thompson, the new offer that went out yesterday, per Paul he is playing in an event in TX on Sat so unless they make the trip afterward's he probably won't get to make it this weekend. He definitely wants to talk with his family about the new offer though.

We are definitely pushing all of our chips into the middle.

I think its pretty clear that Cush and Reese are in the boat. That leaves roughly 6-7 spots:

Lashley
Simmons
AJ
Kobe
Knott
OSU commit or Stallings

We either close with these six, or we don't. Im sure we have backup plans, but I think our coaches are going big or going home and saving spots for next year. Just my thought.

[Really Clark?]

We are definitely pushing all of our chips into the middle.

I think its pretty clear that Cush and Reese are in the boat. That leaves roughly 6-7 spots:

Lashley
Simmons
AJ
Kobe
Knott
OSU commit or Stallings

We either close with these six, or we don't. Im sure we have backup plans, but I think our coaches are going big or going home and saving spots for next year. Just my thought.

Stallings is out. He decommitted from So Car but we haven't talked with him much since his visit. We are choosing to not make a late push for Mason or Dantzler at all. So this is definitely a different kind of recruiting strategy for the staff. They have great confidence in who we are getting right now. If they are being mislead, then it's a bust. Like you said all the chips are in the middle.

And all the ones that have complained about the lack of signing day buzz, you had better not be the ones melting right now because this is what it feels like to go to the other extreme. Choose a side but quit bitching and being bi-polar. It you want it this way or the way we have done it in the past, decide now and help pull the the direction we are going. Don't complain about both ways now.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Stallings is out. He decommitted from So Car but we haven't talked with him much since his visit. We are choosing to not make a late push for Mason or Dantzler at all. So this is definitely a different kind of recruiting strategy for the staff. They have great confidence in who we are getting right now. If they are being mislead, then it's a bust. Like you said all the chips are in the middle.

And all the ones that have complained about the lack of signing day buzz, you had better not be the ones melting right now because this is what it feels like to go to the other extreme. Choose a side but quit bitching and being bi-polar. It you want it this way or the way we have done it in the past, decide now and help pull the the direction we are going. Don't complain about both ways now.

We could call Stallings anytime between now & signing day & get his signature IMO.

[state66]

Steve seems to be getting info from "a family friend" of AJ Brown. Which seems to be how he gets his info so quickly. I can see that family friend playing Steve or I can also see that family friend not knowing as much as he alludes to. I like Steve's info personally, as I do not think he is a homer and gives his honest opinion, unlike OM writers who say they have the lead for every recruit, but I cant bring myself to trust his info on AJ.

[Really Clark?]

Couldn't he visit after signing day?

Apparently, playing in the SEC is his dream

Oh sure. And that may be part of what he talks over with his family.

[mic]

We could call Stallings anytime between now & signing day & get his signature IMO.

It should be done IMO.. Regardless of how the staff feels about the Sip big 5 left..
Never had enough big guys on either side..

[Really Clark?]

We could call Stallings anytime between now & signing day & get his signature IMO.

Im sure we could but it doesn't seem like we are pushing for him at all. That's what I mean that he is out. Outside looking in for a spot with us right now.

[Dawgtini]

What does somewhat bother me though, is that Rosey seems to be getting info on AJ quicker than other sites.

Is he "getting info" or is he speculating, or even constructing, info??? Or is his "source" doing so?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

AJ is a Bama/MSU battle always has been. Some folks think it's MSU some think Bama. You can make a case for both sides. Steve thinks it's Bama I can't knock him for that.

[msstate7]

AJ is a Bama/MSU battle always has been. Some folks think it's MSU some think Bama. You can make a case for both sides. Steve thinks it's Bama I can't knock him for that.

Is Kobe an om/state battle or is om media just stirring the pot?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Is Kobe an om/state battle or is om media just stirring the pot?

OM is 2nd. I don't know how big a battle I would say it is.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

AJ is a Bama/MSU battle always has been. Some folks think it's MSU some think Bama. You can make a case for both sides. Steve thinks it's Bama I can't knock him for that.

Paul thinks it's Bama too FWIW.

[msudawglb]

AJ is a Bama/MSU battle always has been. Some folks think it's MSU some think Bama. You can make a case for both sides. Steve thinks it's Bama I can't knock him for that.

You can now add Paul at 247 to that list of those who think AJ is Bama bound.

ETA...must have been typing while you were posting. Woops

[ShotgunDawg]

Paul thinks it's Bama too FWIW.

Yeah, it stinks. Really stinks if this plays out.

That said though, I won't blame the coaches for one guy. If the AJ absolutely wanted to get out of Starkville, then I'm not sure what the coaches could do, and I'm sure they tried everything.

I'm not going to say anything bad about the kid either though. I've learned that many times familiarity builds contempt and that sometimes the more a prospect knows about the school, the worse. And that goes for every school. Not just MSU.

Paul had a really good point the other day when he mentioned that their were too many local guys this year and his sometimes that adds a variable that can be difficult to deal with.

Hopefully things turn around and Mullen pulls a rabbit out of his hat.

That being said though, Paul still thinks we get Simmons, Lashley, Kobe & he's 50/50 on Knott. If we landed 3 of these 4, I'll feel like we survived to fight another day. While not optimal, it would be the best linemen class we've had in years. We would just have hit a HR in recruiting next year.

[Really Clark?]

Paul thinks it's Bama too FWIW.

Yep. And thinks we get Simmons, Jones, Lashley, Cush, Reese and Hankerson. 50-50 on Knott depending on how spots shake out with Bama and his UNM visit.

[mic]

When it comes to NEEDS AJ is no higher than #3 out of the 5 left from Mississippi.
Not saying the others are more talented because AJ might be the most talented player to come from Miss in a while .
Big give me the 2 big guys , with Kobe and Knott not far behind..

[MetEdDawg]

Here's the thing I think we have shown this year and last. We don't necessarily have to have an elite class to be elite. But we do have to have a very solid OL class every year. We always develop and get good CBs, LBs, DL, WRs, and RBs. We've now shown that we can develop the right QB and I think we've got those. I think the game changers on the OL are the big difference.

Now that doesn't mean we need to miss on a bunch of elite guys. We need to get some. But to me I think if everything stayed the same except for OL recruiting (which would get better), we would never lose more than 4 games per year.

[msstate7]

If aj is out, farrar is very important... Hopefully we hold on. I will be ecstatic if we pull Simmons though. He's in our rotation (maybe starting) day 1

[ShotgunDawg]

Here's the thing I think we have shown this year and last. We don't necessarily have to have an elite class to be elite. But we do have to have a very solid OL class every year. We always develop and get good CBs, LBs, DL, WRs, and RBs. We've now shown that we can develop the right QB and I think we've got those. I think the game changers on the OL are the big difference.

Now that doesn't mean we need to miss on a bunch of elite guys. We need to get some. But to me I think if everything stayed the same except for OL recruiting (which would get better), we would never lose more than 4 games per year.

Did you watch the Alabama & Ole Miss games this year?

Unless your goal is to win 7-8 games, we aren't close

[ShotgunDawg]

If aj is out, farrar is very important... Hopefully we hold on. I will be ecstatic if we pull Simmons though. He's in our rotation (maybe starting) day 1

The optimist in me is still holding out hope on AJ, but the realist in me says he's avoiding our staff so he doesn't have to tell them no

[engie]

Did you watch the Alabama & Ole Miss games this year?

Unless your goal is to win 7-8 games, we aren't close

One position group. Less you can't read what he actually wrote.

[Shooter McGavin]

And all the ones that have complained about the lack of signing day buzz, you had better not be the ones melting right now because this is what it feels like to go to the other extreme

I'm not melting down but you can definitely put me in the I'd rather not have signing day buzz if this is how its goes. I really hope that the elitedawgs recruiting gurus wind up being correct more than some of the pay site media.

At this point, I hope we hang onto Farrar, get the OL guys in the boat, and reel in 2 of the GTR 4. I know that's a pretty low bar to set but if we get better news than that I will be ecstatic.

[Dawgtini]

Here's the thing I think we have shown this year and last. We don't necessarily have to have an elite class to be elite. But we do have to have a very solid OL class every year. We always develop and get good CBs, LBs, DL, WRs, and RBs. We've now shown that we can develop the right QB and I think we've got those. I think the game changers on the OL are the big difference.

Now that doesn't mean we need to miss on a bunch of elite guys. We need to get some. But to me I think if everything stayed the same except for OL recruiting (which would get better), we would never lose more than 4 games per year.

+1 Great post. I agree 100 100 100

[ShotgunDawg]

One position group. Less you can't read what he actually wrote.

It's one position group now, but that can change. There's no guarantee that we'll continue to develop top 3 rounders that few wanted. As Jerry Jones says,"building a football team is like holding Jello in two hands. Once you get it under control, it slips out somewhere else."

My thoughts are that unless your recruiting at a high level across the board, you have little chance.

[engie]

It's one position group now, but that can change. There's no guarantee that we'll continue to develop top 3 rounders that few wanted. As Jerry Jones says,"building a football team is like holding Jello in two hands. Once you get it under control, it slips out somewhere else."

My thoughts are that unless your recruiting at a high level across the board, you have little chance.

Quit melting, dumb ass. IT IS ONE POSITION GROUP. Please point out these other succinct recruiting position group failures that are pointing to our imminent doom. I'll be waiting a long time for your answer.

[CadaverDawg]

Yep. And thinks we get Simmons, Jones, Lashley, Cush, Reese and Hankerson. 50-50 on Knott depending on how spots shake out with Bama and his UNM visit.

I would take those right now & be pumped. Yes, I'd love to get AJ, but a few days ago I had some good sources thinking we weren't getting AJ, Simmons, Kobe, or Knott....so it makes me very happy to hear this coming from Paul.

If I'm Dan, I tell AJ he starts day 1 and we'll offer his buddy Dantzler if we can get him to join his boys. Let's pull a rabbit out of the hat, Dan. Very good news coming from Paul....there was some guys VERY close to the coaches that were hearing awful things a few days ago.

I know it's still several days til signing day, but I'm glad to finally hear decent news from a guy like Paul. We'll see what happens.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I would take those right now & be pumped. Yes, I'd love to get AJ, but a few days ago I had some good sources thinking we weren't getting AJ, Simmons, Kobe, or Knott....so it makes me very happy to hear this coming from Paul.

If I'm Dan, I tell AJ he starts day 1 and we'll offer his buddy Dantzler if we can get him to join his boys. Let's pull a rabbit out of the hat, Dan. Very good news coming from Paul....there was some guys VERY close to the coaches that were hearing awful things a few days ago.

I know it's still several days til signing day, but I'm glad to finally hear decent news from a guy like Paul. We'll see what happens.

Thing is getting Dantzler wouldn't swing AJ decision 1 way or the other. They aren't tight like that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Quit melting, dumb ass. IT IS ONE POSITION GROUP. Please point out these other succinct recruiting position group failures that are pointing to our imminent doom. I'll be waiting a long time for your answer.


Smh. Not at all melting and you can believe what you want.

Watch the personal attacks. Your better than that and they aren't constructive. We all want to win, so be mature about discussing it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

One position group.

That is what's funny about this class. The 1 guy who has been killed repeatedly about his lack of recruiting has a very good chance to have the best position group in this class. This year really has been a weird 1.

[Really Clark?]

That is what's funny about this class. The 1 guy who has been killed repeatedly about his lack of recruiting has a very good chance to have the best position group in this class. This year really has been a weird 1.

So we must now have to hammer Gonzo for not pulling AJ. He has to go!!!***. Lol. Weird is almost too soft of a word for this year.

Bizarro world. Hev is pulling kids out of his ass and Gonzo supposedly can't pull a kid from Starkville. Not everybody is saying AJ is going elsewhere. Some still believe he signs with us. But it's reasonable to hear a lot of chatter that questions where he goes.

[engie]

That is what's funny about this class. The 1 guy who has been killed repeatedly about his lack of recruiting has a very good chance to have the best position group in this class. This year really has been a weird 1.

Yep. The one true weakness is being addressed.

[I seen it dawg]

Yep. The one true weakness is being addressed.

They must read ED

[Commercecomet24]

Yep. The one true weakness is being addressed.

Agree completely. We are talented and deep in every other position(could use a little more depth in the DL) accept the OL,but it appears the coaches are addressing this are as well.

[Dawgtini]

To be fair, Paul is only saying it is less than 50% and he based a lot of that on AJ not visiting or the difficulty in getting him to visit. Less than 50% He didn't say 0, 5, 10, or even 25%. He just said less than 50%. I don't know if it is 51% to 49%, 60/40 like Rosie said, or 99/1. We will all find out Wednesday....maybe.

[maroonmania]

To be fair, Paul is only saying it is less than 50% and he based a lot of that on AJ not visiting or the difficulty in getting him to visit. Less than 50% He didn't say 0, 5, 10, or even 25%. He just said less than 50%. I don't know if it is 51% to 49%, 60/40 like Rosie said, or 99/1. We will all find out Wednesday....maybe.

I'm about ready to raise the white flag on AJ. If he was coming it shouldn't be a problem for him to come over and visit our coaches. Though if he has truly decided on Bama I don't see why, at this point, he just doesn't tell our coaches so we can make alternate plans. Seems like he could at least do THAT much for us. But boy, I just hate to see another Freddie Milons situation. Our program has come leaps and bounds since those days so its sad that we are apparently going to have to relive a Starkville guy playing against us 90 miles down the road in the same division of the same conference. Would be easier to swallow if he was just going off to Ohio State or somewhere.

[HancockCountyDog]

I really think we are about to close with every toss up we have with the bears.

Thank you Pat Forde.

[maroonmania]

I really think we are about to close with every toss up we have with the bears.

Thank you Pat Forde.

Should definitely help a lot with Simmons and Jones, not so much with AJ and Knott.

[Dawgtini]

Should definitely help a lot with Simmons and Jones, not so much with AJ and Knott.

If Simmons and Jones do come, the chance to play with those two may help with AJ and Knott.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I'm about ready to raise the white flag on AJ. If he was coming it shouldn't be a problem for him to come over and visit our coaches. Though if he has truly decided on Bama I don't see why, at this point, he just doesn't tell our coaches so we can make alternate plans. Seems like he could at least do THAT much for us. But boy, I just hate to see another Freddie Milons situation. Our program has come leaps and bounds since those days so its sad that we are apparently going to have to relive a Starkville guy playing against us 90 miles down the road in the same division of the same conference. Would be easier to swallow if he was just going off to Ohio State or somewhere.

Paul changed his CB to Bama this afternoon, so the writing is on the wall. I can't wait for signing day to be over.

[Johnson85]

Did you watch the Alabama & Ole Miss games this year?

Unless your goal is to win 7-8 games, we aren't close

You realize that we play 12 games and not winning two of them means we'd end up with 10 regular season wins?

If the goal is to win 7-8 games, we're not close, we're already there. I don't think that's anybody's goal at this point. And did you watch the LSU and A&M games this year? A good OT in the LSU game is probably worth a win. Harder to say with A&M but obviously there were times this year where we would have beaten them handily.

[maroonmania]

You realize that we play 12 games and not winning two of them means we'd end up with 10 regular season wins?

If the goal is to win 7-8 games, we're not close, we're already there. I don't think that's anybody's goal at this point. And did you watch the LSU and A&M games this year? A good OT in the LSU game is probably worth a win. Harder to say with A&M but obviously there were times this year where we would have beaten them handily.

Well as Ron Polk would say, its a punch to the gut and a slap to the face. Might even could add a kick to the nads. :(

ETA: If we can somehow still close with Jones, Lashley, Simmons, Knott and hold on to Farrar, to go along with the OL we believe we are going to get that would still be a heck of a good finish.

[Dawgology]

You realize that we play 12 games and not winning two of them means we'd end up with 10 regular season wins?

If the goal is to win 7-8 games, we're not close, we're already there. I don't think that's anybody's goal at this point. And did you watch the LSU and A&M games this year? A good OT in the LSU game is probably worth a win. Harder to say with A&M but obviously there were times this year where we would have beaten them handily.

Our QB was play was inconsistent but our OL got manhandled that game too

[Johnson85]

Quit melting, dumb ass. IT IS ONE POSITION GROUP. Please point out these other succinct recruiting position group failures that are pointing to our imminent doom. I'll be waiting a long time for your answer.

I don't think we have any failures, but the concerns have to be OL, DL, and CB. Love our QB, LB, WR, and Safety situation. Not crazy about RB but surely with all the bodies we have at least one of them will be better than average. If our CB's and DL aren't a significant weakness this year, that will be a big step forward for Dan and will show that he's still upgrading our talent.

[bulldawg28]

I'm about ready to raise the white flag on AJ. If he was coming it shouldn't be a problem for him to come over and visit our coaches. Though if he has truly decided on Bama I don't see why, at this point, he just doesn't tell our coaches so we can make alternate plans. Seems like he could at least do THAT much for us. But boy, I just hate to see another Freddie Milons situation. Our program has come leaps and bounds since those days so its sad that we are apparently going to have to relive a Starkville guy playing against us 90 miles down the road in the same division of the same conference. Would be easier to swallow if he was just going off to Ohio State or somewhere.

Honestly, Going to Bama won't hurt like everyone thinks. He'll be a possession WR there versus the go to here. He's not a burner but he attacks the football. Getting Hankerson with his speed, quickness, length, and athletic ability..... With good coaching could negate him. He's my steal of this class if we can land him. His upside is through the roof!!!

[maroonmania]

Honestly, Going to Bama won't hurt like everyone thinks. He'll be a possession WR there versus the go to here. He's not a burner but he attacks the football. Getting Hankerson with his speed, quickness, length, and athletic ability..... With good coaching could negate him. He's my steal of this class if we can land him. His upside is through the roof!!!

It will hurt us NOT getting him a lot more than it helps Bama getting him. If Bama doesn't get Brown they would just replace him with another high level 4 or 5 star receiver. We don't have the luxury of replacing guys like Brown with similar level players. Would be great if we get Hankerson and he becomes a good SEC player for us (heard he could be a WR or a DB) but I don't think anyone is ready to put him in the same category as Brown.

[bulldawg28]

It will hurt us NOT getting him a lot more than it helps Bama getting him. If Bama doesn't get Brown they would just replace him with another high level 4 or 5 star receiver. We don't have the luxury of replacing guys like Brown with similar level players. Would be great if we get Hankerson and he becomes a good SEC player for us (heard he could be a WR or a DB) but I don't think anyone is ready to put him in the same category as Brown.

Farror is on the same category as Brown right now, plus he's taller. That's my opinion.

[maroonmania]

Farror is on the same category as Brown right now, plus he's taller. That's my opinion.

Yep, Farrar is a big time player. Will be much more excited on him if I find out we are definitely going to hold onto him.

[tcdog70]

Simmons would help us more than AJ. Hell we got receivers but we need dominate DL line a wino needs thunderbird

[Bdawg]

Well as Ron Polk would say, its a punch to the gut and a slap to the face. Might even could add a kick to the nads. :(

ETA: If we can somehow still close with Jones, Lashley, Simmons, Knott and hold on to Farrar, to go along with the OL we believe we are going to get that would still be a heck of a good finish.
If we finish like that, I might go to the middle of the square, pull my pants down, and tell the UNM snobs to kiss me in the brown!!! You better believe I would take that finish. AJ would be a hard pill to swallow but it's definitely not our position of need.

[msstate7]

Jack jones (5* CB) has bama in final 3. Wonder would bama take knott if they land carter and jones

[HancockCountyDog]

Jack jones (5* CB) has bama in final 3. Wonder would bama take knott if they land carter and jones

If they get carter and Jones, I like our chances.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Jack jones (5* CB) has bama in final 3. Wonder would bama take knott if they land carter and jones

Jones is a long shot for Bama.

[Commercecomet24]

Jones is a long shot for Bama.

In your opinion, how many more you think we will take in this class? I won't hold you to it, just would like to hear your best guess. Thanks again for your info!

[msstate7]

Jones is a long shot for Bama.

Who are the guys ahead of knott?

[HancockCountyDog]

Jones is a long shot for Bama.

What about Mayden? OU landing him?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What about Mayden? OU landing him?

Bama right there for that 1. Both sides feel confident.

[Homedawg]

Farror is on the same category as Brown right now, plus he's taller. That's my opinion.

No just no.

[Really Clark?]

We got a walk on commitment from QB Logan Burnett of Pelham, AL

[MSUDeltadawg1971]

IYOK, check private messages

[bulldawg28]

No just no.

What's the difference?

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

What's the difference?

Will talk about this after signing day myself

[msstate7]

I just hope we can hold onto farrar. Any reports coming out of Norman?

[bulldawg28]

Will talk about this after signing day myself

Gotcha.

[Really Clark?]

Cushenberry didn't go the So Car this weekend. Looks like he is wrapped up.

[msstate7]

Cushenberry didn't go the So Car this weekend. Looks like he is wrapped up.

Good deal.

Any farrar news? You think we keep him? Need him and aj, but dang sure can't lose both

[msstate7]

Read on tRant that aj is meeting with Bianco today. Didn't aj refuse to meet with Cohen?