2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

[HancockCountyDog]

Signing 3 out of 4 kids from the golden triangle when, one is related to Johnnie Cooks, 2 are playing in Starkville, and the other is a 40 minute drive away, and two of these kids are top 100 players, is not successful.

It's just not, any attempt to say anything ekse is just spin.

Everyone knows we are landing Kobe and Lashley. Croom would have landed those two. AJ and Simmons are simply must gets if you are the MSU coach. If we can't, we are just spinning our wheels.

I keep hearing that Bama is awfully confident. Everyone keeps worrying about the bears, I think Bama steaks him.

[msstate7]

I keep hearing that Bama is awfully confident. Everyone keeps worrying about the bears, I think Bama steaks him.

Simmons or aj?

[HancockCountyDog]

Simmons or aj?

Simmons, I won't worry about AJ until he doesn't show up for an official visit.

[mic]

Let's hope espn is just mixing up the schools again.

@EMcKinneyESPN: #ESPN300 WR A.J. Brown said he'll take officials to Alabama (Jan. 15), Ole Miss (Jan. 22) and Cal (Jan. 29), plus some potential unofficials

I'm guessing that's ESPN being ESPN.. UMiss big weekend with the $$ and Ho's is Jan 29....

[Bothrops]

For a MS recruit to want to go to Bama and expect to play, he better be extremely good.

[HancockCountyDog]

For a MS recruit to want to go to Bama and expect to play, he better be extremely good.

Simmons is extremely good. So is AJ, but Im not worried about Bama for AJ. They have a stud WR that will be a sophomore.

Im just not worried about AJ. Maybe Im blind, but Im just not worried. If he doesn't show up on the 22nd, then yes I'll be worried.

[Political Hack]

Is a top 30 class this year "Good enough"?

Just got done listening to Rosebowl's "Boneyard" on BSR & couldn't believe when he said that. He said, according to what he's hearing right now, getting 3 of the 4 Golden Triangle boys is best case scenario & that a top 30 class this year would be good enough & a great job by the staff, due to a light in-state class this year.

WTF? Is Rosebowl just trying to lower expectations or does he really believe this?

Who cares if it's a light year in-state? Get your ass out of state & get some players.

How can we compete in the West without recruiting in the top 20 most every year? We can't. A top 30 class is a "poo ole Mistoisnt State" attitude & I'm tired of it. Get some folks in here that can recruit there asses off & let's compete.

Fired up right now after listening to that crap. With our facilities, recent winning, & in-state talent base, a deaf, dumb, blind person could land a top 30 recruiting class. absurd

We should have been prepared for this 3 years ago and found targets accordingly. We should be targeting the top 100 players in the nation as freshmen and sophomores to see if we can get out of state interest. If they reciprocate, we pursue it. It's not rocket science. I don't feel like we have a coherent system in place to project team needs, identify candidates, and know how to prioritize our recruiting time and resources.

Ty Montgomery is a perfect example. Kid that was interested from TX that ended up at Stanford. No telling if we would've landed him but we didn't even allow ourselves to get in the game. Kids in town visiting family and can't get a coach on the phone. Ridiculous.

Other schools do a tremendous job of identifying connections to out of state talent. We did it with Fred Ross. Not sure why it's so hard for us to do that consistently.

[mic]

We should have been prepared for this 3 years ago and found targets accordingly. We should be targeting the top 100 players in the nation as freshmen and sophomores to see if we can get out of state interest. If they reciprocate, we pursue it. It's not rocket science. I don't feel like we have a coherent system in place to project team needs, identify candidates, and know how to prioritize our recruiting time and resources.

Ty Montgomery is a perfect example. Kid that was interested from TX that ended up at Stanford. No telling if we would've landed him but we didn't even allow ourselves to get in the game. Kids in town visiting family and can't get a coach on the phone. Ridiculous.

Other schools do a tremendous job of identifying connections to out of state talent. We did it with Fred Ross. Not sure why it's so hard for us to do that consistently.

Been saying it all year... It's called getting out worked...

[mic]

Simmons is extremely good. So is AJ, but Im not worried about Bama for AJ. They have a stud WR that will be a sophomore.

Im just not worried about AJ. Maybe Im blind, but Im just not worried. If he doesn't show up on the 22nd, then yes I'll be worried.

If we don't close AJ. ( which I still feel almost certain we do) Everyone including Mullen should get a pay cut...
And if we had signed Dylan Bradley a few years ago Simmons would be in the bag..

[djaymsu5]

I was told by a good buddy of mine that lives in Oxford that his boss (that talks with the Oxford High Football coach that just retired often) spoke with Metcalf said that AJ told him he was going to Bama. AJ and Metcalf are good friends and talk often. Saban told AJ that he reminded him of Julio Jones which AJ even said at the Under Armour All American game and it blew AJ away to hear Saban tell him that and basically said he's all bama. Do I believe all of that? Not entirely but I could see this happening considering AJ has mentioned he wants to get of out Starkville before. I hope that this is wrong and we land him but I'm not expecting to get AJ. If we do then great!

[Really Clark?]

I was told by a good buddy of mine that lives in Oxford that his boss (that talks with the Oxford High Football coach that just retired often) spoke with Metcalf said that AJ told him he was going to Bama. AJ and Metcalf are good friends and talk often. Saban told AJ that he reminded him of Julio Jones which AJ even said at the Under Armour All American game and it blew AJ away to hear Saban tell him that and basically said he's all bama. Do I believe all of that? Not entirely but I could see this happening considering AJ has mentioned he wants to get of out Starkville before. I hope that this is wrong and we land him but I'm not expecting to get AJ. If we do then great!

AJ and Metcalf are good friends?

[msstate7]

I was told by a good buddy of mine that lives in Oxford that his boss (that talks with the Oxford High Football coach that just retired often) spoke with Metcalf said that AJ told him he was going to Bama. AJ and Metcalf are good friends and talk often. Saban told AJ that he reminded him of Julio Jones which AJ even said at the Under Armour All American game and it blew AJ away to hear Saban tell him that and basically said he's all bama. Do I believe all of that? Not entirely but I could see this happening considering AJ has mentioned he wants to get of out Starkville before. I hope that this is wrong and we land him but I'm not expecting to get AJ. If we do then great!

Our recruiting guys on here aren't worried, so I'm not gonna worry either. If we lose to bear to nfl and aj out of Starkville, that's quite a gut shot. If Ross declares, we'd have gotten a kick in the nuts to go with it.

[HancockCountyDog]

Other schools do a tremendous job of identifying connections to out of state talent. We did it with Fred Ross. Not sure why it's so hard for us to do that consistently.

I agree, there are times we simply accept kids that we can develop into solid players 2-3 years down the road, as opposed to going after impact guys. Now, sometimes you can come up empty - as the bears did last year - but it looks like it may work this year.

Also, with our success in putting guys in the league, we should be touting our development. Especially Jones and Wilson. We just hoping we land guys that can leave in 3 years - this is the future in football recruiting. Kids don't want to get hit for free for 5 years. They want to get to the league in 3 years. We can make that happen, but we have to recruit accordingly.

Look at this top 75 list from UGA:

https://rivals.yahoo.com/BWI/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3591/0

There are 32 four star players in UGA. Only 13 are committed to UGA or AU. Teams like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Southern Cal, bears, and Louisville all have commits from this state that are 4 star or higher. There is no reason UK, Louisville, or Duke should beat us out for a player from UGA that is a 4 star. Now, maybe they are overrated, but we should be making this a priority and we don't.

Same with Texas.

[HancockCountyDog]

And if we had signed Dylan Bradley a few years ago Simmons would be in the bag..

Totally agree on this. I think the bears and us made a major mistake in not offering this kid. First off, he is a damn good player, second I think it gives you a major selling point with Simmons.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Do you really think AJ is trying to build suspense...you do know how old he is right? I doubt very seriously that this is on his mind.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I stopped when I read that the reference was located in Oxford.....

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

1.Ty Montgomery is a perfect example. Kid that was interested from TX that ended up at Stanford. No telling if we would've landed him but we didn't even allow ourselves to get in the game. Kids in town visiting family and can't get a coach on the phone. Ridiculous.

2. Other schools do a tremendous job of identifying connections to out of state talent. We did it with Fred Ross. Not sure why it's so hard for us to do that consistently.

1.That's the shit that grinds my gears and I've heard of way too many stories like this by our staff. Sometimes I don't understand the arrogance and why we do such a shitty job of making some feel welcome.

2. Because we run off or don't keep guys around that are aggressive recruiters. Brewster was a major player for Ross.

[HancockCountyDog]

Do you really think AJ is trying to build suspense...you do know how old he is right? I doubt very seriously that this is on his mind.

Umm yes I do. Why do you think he posted on twitter a few weeks ago that he wasn't committed to MSU? He wasn't getting enough attention from other schools. Everyone just assumed he was going to MSU. He does want attention. Its no big deal that he does, but he certainly does want attention. One way to do that is to not schedule an official visit to MSU.

Now, saying you aren't going to take an official to MSU and not taking an official visit to MSU are two different things.

Same way telling a teammate that you are going to Bama - when you know that info will get leaked by bear media is just building up the drama.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

that and Ross aunt works for State.

[Really Clark?]

1.That's the shit that grinds my gears and I've heard of way too many stories like this by our staff. Sometimes I don't understand the arrogance and why we do such a shitty job of making some feel welcome.

2. Because we run off or don't keep guys around that are aggressive recruiters. Brewster was a major player for Ross.

Why does this keep coming up concerning Ross's recruitment? It's been stated multiple times that Keonnig and the family connection did the heavy lifting on Ross. Not Brewster. And he left on his own for FSU. Had nothing to do with us running him off.

[engie]

Totally agree on this. I think the bears and us made a major mistake in not offering this kid. First off, he is a damn good player

Yep -- and I remember at the time a bunch of us said as much too. A part of the class of 2013 that we prettymuch whiffed on as well. Chris Jones and Trent Simpson were the only DL we took in that class. So, now we're left with a 2 year gap in recruiting on the DL as it pertains to upperclassmen -- and our perceived depth issues at the spot.

That damn 2013 class that was decent on paper -- sheessshhhh...

#1 just declared and was pretty good if not what we had hoped(Jones)
#2 hasn't lived up to billing on any level(Shump)
#3 has been everything we hoped(Ross)
#4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #11, #12, #15, #19, #20 will not/did not finish their career at State...
#10 has been pretty good, if surpassed in the slot(Miles)
#13 has been better than expected when signed(Clayborn)
#14 about what expected when signed(Coman)
#16 just declared and was awesome(DeRunnya)
#17 is what we expected him to be, a career backup QB(Damien)
#18 has been hurt his whole career while being a physical freakshow(Dez)

So, entering their 4th year, we've got 7 contributors expected back from that class -- and that's with a medical scholarship potential in Dez and transfer potential in Damian. So maybe only 5. For reference -- we're expecting at least 12 5th year contributors back from the class of 2012. Insane. And the worst part? I think time is going to tell that we missed alot on the class of 2014 too...

[HancockCountyDog]

Yep -- and I remember at the time a bunch of us said as much too. A part of the class of 2013 that we prettymuch whiffed on as well. Chris Jones and Trent Simpson were the only DL we took in that class. So, now we're left with a 2 year gap in recruiting on the DL as it pertains to upperclassmen -- and our perceived depth issues at the spot.

We graduate 6 guys on the DL next year. We need some HS bodies this year on the DL, we simply can't afford a year with misses on the DL, at the HS level which is why I'm a little confused as to why we don't have more DL targeted.

[mic]

We graduate 6 guys on the DL next year. We need some HS bodies this year on the DL, we simply can't afford a year with misses on the DL, at the HS level which is why I'm a little confused as to why we don't have more DL targeted.

And we will have probably 3 of those DL go juco... So no 100% chance they ever make it to campus..
Simmons.. Is a must get IMO..

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

We graduate 6 guys on the DL next year. We need some HS bodies this year on the DL, we simply can't afford a year with misses on the DL, at the HS level which is why I'm a little confused as to why we don't have more DL targeted.

I've been curious about it since this class started, especially when Pope got pushed back a year.

[mic]

I agree, there are times we simply accept kids that we can develop into solid players 2-3 years down the road, as opposed to going after impact guys. Now, sometimes you can come up empty - as the bears did last year - but it looks like it may work this year.

Also, with our success in putting guys in the league, we should be touting our development. Especially Jones and Wilson. We just hoping we land guys that can leave in 3 years - this is the future in football recruiting. Kids don't want to get hit for free for 5 years. They want to get to the league in 3 years. We can make that happen, but we have to recruit accordingly.

Look at this top 75 list from UGA:

https://rivals.yahoo.com/BWI/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3591/0

There are 32 four star players in UGA. Only 13 are committed to UGA or AU. Teams like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Southern Cal, bears, and Louisville all have commits from this state that are 4 star or higher. There is no reason UK, Louisville, or Duke should beat us out for a player from UGA that is a 4 star. Now, maybe they are overrated, but we should be making this a priority and we don't.

Same with Texas.

Yep.. Pretty sad when u get out worked by other schools for these players ..

[HancockCountyDog]

Yep.. Pretty sad when u get out worked by other schools for these players ..

Im not sure outworked is the right way to put it, I think our coaches work damn hard, Im just not sure they set their sights high enough sometimes.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Any update on Jamaal Couch?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Im not sure outworked is the right way to put it, I think our coaches work damn hard, Im just not sure they set their sights high enough sometimes.

I think it's that and they're brutally honest with most of the kids. Sometimes that's not what kids exactly want to hear about their future college experience.

[mic]

Im not sure outworked is the right way to put it, I think our coaches work damn hard, Im just not sure they set their sights high enough sometimes.

That's getting out worked..
We are content to basically just recruit 3 states..
Louisiana
Miss
Alabama..

No reason we shouldn't be picking up 4-6 kids that are SEC calibure from Ga, Fla, and Texas every year..

[Really Clark?]

That's getting out worked..
We are content to basically just recruit 3 states..
Louisiana
Miss
Alabama..

No reason we shouldn't be picking up 4-6 kids that are SEC calibure from Ga, Fla, and Texas every year..

We half of your minimum from those three states right now. Let's see how the year plays out. Last year we went into TN more. The year before we signed 6 or 7 from your 3 states.

[mic]

We half of your minimum from those three states right now. Let's see how the year plays out. Last year we went into TN more. The year before we signed 6 or 7 from your 3 states.

Well of the top of my head... Over the last few years..
Holloway -fl
Cleveland -ga
Ross-tx
Are the only 3 that I can think that have contributed from ( Tex, ga, fla)
That's not getting it done... 1 per state SEC calibure guys over the last 4 years..

Fitz and ES will have their time now...

[Bothrops]

If we don't sign AJ, I'm gonna feel like Mullen is playing the end game. I will be ****ing pissed.

[Really Clark?]

Well of the top of my head... Over the last few years..
Holloway -fl
Cleveland -ga
Ross-tx
Are the only 3 that I can think that have contributed from ( Tex, ga, fla)
That's not getting it done... 1 per state SEC calibure guys over the last 4 years..

Fitz and ES will have their time now...

Gotcha. Signing them doesn't count. We did place some guys that could be contributors some not. Pierce, if ever gets eligible, would be a good signing from Florida but hasn't made it. Will Coleman from Texas. Harris and Cooper won't make it. Look I don't really care where they are from as much as you do. There are a bunch of good players in the 6 hour circle from Starkville. Louisiana, Alabama, Memphis has a lot of talent. I've said my peace on Texas players, you have to be really careful not to get sucked into rankings in Texas. Some great players but a lot of peaked players that have been overworked and over ranked. Georgia and Florida, fine but it doesn't have to be a set number of players. Regions are hotter than others at times.

[Really Clark?]

Kongbo has decommitted from Tenn

[msstate7]

Kongbo has decommitted from Tenn

Who's the favorite now? Om?

[Really Clark?]

We have offered Farrar WR from Texas

[msstate7]

We have offered Farrar WR from Texas

Bad news on couch or aj? I hope not

[Really Clark?]

Who's the favorite now? Om?

They are in on him and we are as well. But he is blowing up. May be several big schools after him as wel.

[Bothrops]

Kongbo has decommitted from Tenn

If he isn't jumping on someone else, we need to get on this guy.

[Really Clark?]

Barry Sanders Jr is transferring from Stanford as a graduate. May be looking at OK State

[Really Clark?]

Bad news on couch or aj? I hope not

Don't know if it's that or just an adjustment on the board. He has offers to Washington, Ok State, Texas Tech, NE, Iowa, Ill, etc

[Really Clark?]

If he isn't jumping on someone else, we need to get on this guy.

Pretty sure we have been. Have to see how his visits shake out.

[djaymsu5]

AJ and Metcalf are good friends?

Yes they are

[djaymsu5]

I stopped when I read that the reference was located in Oxford.....

Why would the guy lie when Ole Miss wants AJ too?

[Really Clark?]

Yes they are

Huh. I know others on here have stated they have a bit of a rivalry. Acted like it was competitive and they are not close enough to consider wanting to play together. Not what I would have considered good friends necessarily.

[Really Clark?]

Why would the guy lie when Ole Miss wants AJ too?

In the past, when dealing with UNM insiders, when they know they are not getting a player then it's either the kid is not going to qualify or he is going somewhere other than State. It's just their history that raises red flags. That's all.

[msstate7]

Any update on Jamaal Couch?

Bump.

Seems we're after more wr's now. Is this a bad sign for aj or couch?

[Bothrops]

We have offered Farrar WR from Texas

Zach Farrar from Southlake, TX. Looks to be a pretty good prospect. 6'4 208lbs 4.51 40, although doesn't look quite that fast.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Bump.

Seems we're after more wr's now. Is this a bad sign for aj or couch?

No. Just look like we'll take 3 WR if we can get 3 good 1's

[Bothrops]

No. Just look like we'll take 3 WR if we can get 3 good 1's

Cool

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

No. Just look like we'll take 3 WR if we can get 3 good 1's

Does he have a committable offer from us? It's not listed on the sites.

I'll never be upset signing quality players, but are there any new names for guys in the trenches?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Does he have a committable offer from us? It's not listed on the sites.

I'll never be upset signing quality players, but are there any new names for guys in the trenches?

His offer is listed on Scout & Rivals just not 247 for some reason. I believe we'd take him if he wanted to come.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Thanks, what about D or O Line?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Thanks, what about D or O Line?

OL - Lashley & Cushenberry are the priorities. Aaron Dowdell is talking about visiting. I'm sure we'll here of a couple more.

DL - Jones & Simmons are the priorities. Kaderrion Mason & Mykelle McDaniel will probably visit.

[HancockCountyDog]

I have a question on Marquis Spencer - I know he was reclassified for this year's class, but in my experience when that happens it almost always means they are going juco early. Do we expect Spencer to be on campus in 2016? I really hope so, we need him, but Im hearing different things on him. Anyone from the Delta got any info. Its just a rarity for a player from the Delta to amass enough credits to basically be re-classified as a senior and go on to a 4 year school.

Just wondering.

Also, I heard today that AJ will be visiting with everyone else the weekend of the 22nd, sorry for burying the lead.

[msstate7]

I have a question on Marquis Spencer - I know he was reclassified for this year's class, but in my experience when that happens it almost always means they are going juco early. Do we expect Spencer to be on campus in 2016? I really hope so, we need him, but Im hearing different things on him. Anyone from the Delta got any info. Its just a rarity for a player from the Delta to amass enough credits to basically be re-classified as a senior and go on to a 4 year school.

Just wondering.

Also, I heard today that AJ will be visiting with everyone else the weekend of the 22nd, sorry for burying the lead.

This strong finish is looking weaker by the day

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I have a question on Marquis Spencer - I know he was reclassified for this year's class, but in my experience when that happens it almost always means they are going juco early. Do we expect Spencer to be on campus in 2016? I really hope so, we need him, but Im hearing different things on him. Anyone from the Delta got any info. Its just a rarity for a player from the Delta to amass enough credits to basically be re-classified as a senior and go on to a 4 year school.

Just wondering.

Also, I heard today that AJ will be visiting with everyone else the weekend of the 22nd, sorry for burying the lead.

He's taking a couple extra classes to make sure he qualifies. The word is he should be good to go.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

This strong finish is looking weaker by the day

How is that?

[HancockCountyDog]

He's taking a couple extra classes to make sure he qualifies. The word is he should be good to go.

Thats great to hear, just a lot different than what I was hearing on him. Im not dialed into the Delta though, so great news, just a little odd.

[HancockCountyDog]

This strong finish is looking weaker by the day

Did you miss the part where Im hearing that AJ will visit with the rest of the in-state kids?

The Spencer deal is just an odd thing. Kid was a junior all season and then gets re-classified. Normally when that happens you have a situation where a kid doesn't have the core classes and he is getting out early so that he can get a jump on Juco. That is the norm. Apparently Spencer is a good student and has his core in tact and will be good to go.

Just great news, because we need him on campus.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Did you miss the part where Im hearing that AJ will visit with the rest of the in-state kids?

The Spencer deal is just an odd thing. Kid was a junior all season and then gets re-classified. Normally when that happens you have a situation where a kid doesn't have the core classes and he is getting out early so that he can get a jump on Juco. That is the norm. Apparently Spencer is a good student and has his core in tact and will be good to go.

Just great news, because we need him on campus.

Yea it was a lot of misinformation or false information put out about Spencer when he 1st re-classified. I think most just assumed because he was re-classifying it was because he was 1. Too old to play in 2017 or 2. He was so behind in grades he was just trying to get a head start on Juco. Obviously he wasn't near as bad as people thought & he's on the plan now to make sure he's here this summer.

[msstate7]

Did you miss the part where Im hearing that AJ will visit with the rest of the in-state kids?

The Spencer deal is just an odd thing. Kid was a junior all season and then gets re-classified. Normally when that happens you have a situation where a kid doesn't have the core classes and he is getting out early so that he can get a jump on Juco. That is the norm. Apparently Spencer is a good student and has his core in tact and will be good to go.

Just great news, because we need him on campus.

Misunderstood... Thought you said he wouldn't. Reading comprehension isn't my strong point haha

Good news

[Really Clark?]

Offered Hinds CC WR Jevon Wims 4* committed to GA.

[bulldawg28]

Offered Hinds CC WR Jevon Wims 4* committed to GA.

Our coaches keep me scratching my head with these stunts. They back off the guy, let him commit to Georgia, then offer late.

[msstate7]

Offered Hinds CC WR Jevon Wims 4* committed to GA.

Another wr... whole lotta offers coming out for wr's lately

[HancockCountyDog]

Offered Hinds CC WR Jevon Wims 4* committed to GA.

Hmmmmm, I'm not going to read much into this.

[msstate7]

Shyheim carter getting CB'd to bama. Is knott becoming more and more possible to us?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Shyheim carter getting CB'd to bama. Is knott becoming more and more possible to us?

Yes very much so.

[HancockCountyDog]

Shyheim carter getting CB'd to bama. Is knott becoming more and more possible to us?

Good to hear, I also hear we made a strong move with the Starkville kids yesterday. The bears aren't the only one with a network. Im now 99.9% on both Starkville kids.

[mic]

Good to hear, I also hear we made a strong move with the Starkville kids yesterday. The bears aren't the only one with a network. Im now 99.9% on both Starkville kids.

Let's lock up Simmons , flip Davis and this will be a very sucessful recruiting class..

[msstate7]

Good to hear, I also hear we made a strong move with the Starkville kids yesterday. The bears aren't the only one with a network. Im now 99.9% on both Starkville kids.

Good news. What about gay?

[HancockCountyDog]

Good news. What about gay?

I didn't hear anything on him, but I would assume that he is in the boat already.

[EliteGrinder]

The Bears have a network? Sorry, I'm new here

[Really Clark?]

The Bears have a network? Sorry, I'm new here

Your newness won't even be worn off before you're gone if you're trolling.

[msstate7]

We need to just create a new recruiting thread or someone update the target list... This thread has gotten really long without much good info

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

We need to just create a new recruiting thread or someone update the target list... This thread has gotten really long without much good info

What in the target list has changed? I've updated it when a new name is brought up or someone commits.

I originally created it to track the commits and to keep all recruiting posts in one thread, but it didn't work out that way. I'm fine with it being deleted if it's not useful.

[msstate7]

What in the target list has changed? I've updated it when a new name is brought up or someone commits.

I originally created it to track the commits and to keep all recruiting posts in one thread, but it didn't work out that way. I'm fine with it being deleted if it's not useful.

You've done well... I just haven't been looking at the thread right. I automatically go to the last page. My bad.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

You've done well... I just haven't been looking at the thread right. I automatically go to the last page. My bad.

No worries, man. I just wanted to bring something to the board. I'm relying on the insiders to provide the info haha.

[HancockCountyDog]

I think Hoopsdawg had a good post, there are five elite guys:

Brown
Simmons
Knott
Lashley
Kobe

Now we are after some others, Cushenbury, Couch, Callaway, Farrar, and maybe a few others.

My guess is that by the first official visit weekend we will see a number of new names get out. Just a guess.

Things will get moving after next weekend. Get yo popcorn ready.

[Really Clark?]

Buckley already working. 4* WR Fitzpatrick from MI offered and looks like May OV this weekend. Was his primary at Louisville

[ShotgunDawg]

Buckley already working. 4* WR Fitzpatrick from MI offered and looks like May OV this weekend. Was his primary at Louisville

Was just about to post this.

We need some new names to pop up down the stretch here. Would love to pull another Fred Ross recruit

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Buckley already working. 4* WR Fitzpatrick from MI offered and looks like May OV this weekend. Was his primary at Louisville

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1626799/highlights/283535376/v2

[ShotgunDawg]

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1626799/highlights/283535376/v2

Good looking kid. Actually reminds me some of Fred Ross.

What do you think out chances are &, because I have to ask this, do you think this has anything to do with AJ or Couch?

[msstate7]

Good looking kid. Actually reminds me some of Fred Ross.

What do you think out chances are &, because I have to ask this, do you think this has anything to do with AJ or Couch?

Does seem all-the-sudden we're scrambling for wr's

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Good looking kid. Actually reminds me some of Fred Ross.

What do you think out chances are &, because I have to ask this, do you think this has anything to do with AJ or Couch?

He set an OV right away so I imagine we have a decent shot. I understand your question & knew somebody would ask. People ask us to recruit at a higher level so we start getting better players to OV & automatically think it's bad news for another player we want. People saying we need more talent well this part of it. Not caring how we stand for other kids trying to get the best 25. Plus this was a no brainer offer with Buckley being his primary recruiter at Louisville where he was committed too.

[HancockCountyDog]

Does seem all-the-sudden we're scrambling for wr's

I think part of this is that the staff has to make decision when players that they feel 95% about haven't committed. We can't sit around and just assume these guys are coming. Don't read too much into that, but we are doing exactly what I would expect us to do. Recruit players that we think can help us win.

This kind of kid can help us win. Looking at our WR situation, we are a little JR/SR heavy headed into next year. I think our top 4 guys - Ross, Gray, Brown and Myles. We could use a talent infusion at WR, and I think we are about to get it with AJ and hopefully someone else. Yes, I don't consider Dear a WR. He is a HB that likes to dabble at WR.

[msstate7]

I see R. Davis is visiting this weekend. What's the chances of him flipping by Sunday?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I see R. Davis is visiting this weekend. What's the chances of him flipping by Signing Day?

FIFY & good

[HancockCountyDog]

I see R. Davis is visiting this weekend. What's the chances of him flipping by Sunday?

I'd say around 100%. Bama hasn't linens him up for an official, I think that should tell you all you need to know.

[HancockCountyDog]

FYI, AU is making a move for Nigel Knott, I'm not sure if he takes a visit yet, but they are trying to get in the game.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

FYI, AU is making a move for Nigel Knott, I'm not sure if he takes a visit yet, but they are trying to get in the game.

I could see him possibly OV Auburn on the 29th. I don't see them as a viable threat but they could get an OV along with MSU & Bama.

[CadaverDawg]

He set an OV right away so I imagine we have a decent shot. I understand your question & knew somebody would ask. People ask us to recruit at a higher level so we start getting better players to OV & automatically think it's bad news for another player we want. People saying we need more talent well this part of it. Not caring how we stand for other kids trying to get the best 25. Plus this was a no brainer offer with Buckley being his primary recruiter at Louisville where he was committed too.

Great post.

We are loaded at the slot for the next several years, but we need some outside WR's. "Some", not "one". I keep seeing people think we're in bad shape with AJ every time we offer WR's...but that isn't the case. If you can get 3 four star WR's, you get em! Regardless of your top target.

Besides when u look at guys we are losing this year + those that will be Juniors or Seniors next year, you're talking about Bear, Morrow, Ross, Gray, Brown.....it's time to reload at outside WR, and that's not done by getting one guy. Our fan base wants to recruit elite, let's act like we want em all & can get em all! Good post.

Hopefully T-Buck helps us do an even better job of closing. Sounds like he's off to a good start.

[msstate7]

Are cushenberry, lashley, and Clark (juco bound, right?) the only olinemen on our board left?

[HancockCountyDog]

Are cushenberry, lashley, and Clark (juco bound, right?) the only olinemen on our board left?

Lashley isn't juco bound the last I heard, Clark was, no idea on Cushenberry.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Are cushenberry, lashley, and Clark (juco bound, right?) the only olinemen on our board left?

I think we could see a couple more names pop up.

[Boston]

Think he only meant Clark was juco bound.

[CadaverDawg]

Any other guys Buckley was on that might give us a look? (Not just OL, but any position)

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Any other guys Buckley was on that might give us a look? (Not just OL, but any position)

I don't think so unless he can convince Trayvon Mullen to switch an OV from Clemson or LSU.

[Leroy Jenkins]

FYI, AU is making a move for Nigel Knott, I'm not sure if he takes a visit yet, but they are trying to get in the game.

Possibly last-minute Jermaine Whitehead tactics?

[HancockCountyDog]

Possibly last-minute Jermaine Whitehead tactics?

Anyone that discounts AU does so at their peril.

Knott wants to go out of state, AU may give him that chance.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Anyone that discounts AU does so at their peril.

Knott wants to go out of state, AU may give him that chance.

I guess anything is possible but I don't see them coming in the last 3 weeks & stealing him.

[maroonmania]

Anyone that discounts AU does so at their peril.

Knott wants to go out of state, AU may give him that chance.

If he is so determined to get out of state that he chooses last minute interest from Auburn over us and OM then we would have never had a realistic shot at getting him anyway.

[HancockCountyDog]

If he is so determined to get out of state that he chooses last minute interest from Auburn over us and OM then we would have never had a realistic shot at getting him anyway.

The only reason we have a shot now is because AL is slow playing him. If they said he could commit, he would.

Some kids just want to get away from home.

[Bothrops]

Auburn's immediate future is a bit uncertain.

[djaymsu5]

Huh. I know others on here have stated they have a bit of a rivalry. Acted like it was competitive and they are not close enough to consider wanting to play together. Not what I would have considered good friends necessarily.

Then you don't know

[djaymsu5]

In the past, when dealing with UNM insiders, when they know they are not getting a player then it's either the kid is not going to qualify or he is going somewhere other than State. It's just their history that raises red flags. That's all.

I gotcha! I can understand this but in this case this isn't one of those times.

[Really Clark?]

Then you don't know

Good grief. Bit of a delay in the response. And I think my post stated it was what others on here have stated about their relationship in the past. Add that with multiple insiders on here and other sites feel our chances are still good with him. We will found out on signing day. I keep up with recruiting but don't get bent out of shape over the ones that don't sign mostly. Except for circumstances like Tee and CJ when it's obvious that underhanded deals took place.

[Todd4State]

Great post.

We are loaded at the slot for the next several years, but we need some outside WR's. "Some", not "one". I keep seeing people think we're in bad shape with AJ every time we offer WR's...but that isn't the case. If you can get 3 four star WR's, you get em! Regardless of your top target.

Besides when u look at guys we are losing this year + those that will be Juniors or Seniors next year, you're talking about Bear, Morrow, Ross, Gray, Brown.....it's time to reload at outside WR, and that's not done by getting one guy. Our fan base wants to recruit elite, let's act like we want em all & can get em all! Good post.

Hopefully T-Buck helps us do an even better job of closing. Sounds like he's off to a good start.

I'm wondering if the staff is thinking about possibly playing AJ Brown at slot at least some. He's about the same size as Ross except slightly bigger. I could actually see him playing slot or outside. It's just that slot is our marquee position in our offense IMO, so I can see where that would be attractive to highly rated WR's.

That's one reason I was really hoping we would land Sullivan because then we could have Sullivan on the outside along with Jamal Couch at 6'5" and then 6'2" AJ in the slot which would be a big WR group. Especially if you add Dontae Jones in at TE/H-Back.

Fitzpatrick sounds like another guy that could play both outside as well as slot.

[sbcmortgageman]

What ever happened to the WR from meridian that decommitted from om?

[msstate7]

How are things looking with moon and couch?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What ever happened to the WR from meridian that decommitted from om?

Wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at USM. He really overplayed his hand & it bit him in the ass.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

How are things looking with moon and couch?

Just have to see if Moon still visits. Things still look good for Couch.

[ShotgunDawg]

Knott just announced he is visiting this weekend.

Was this already known or is this news?

Either way, getting him on campus against can only help

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Knott just announced he is visiting this weekend.

Was this already known or is this news?

Either way, getting him on campus against can only help

It was known but like you said good to get him on campus. Things are trending well but of course Bama is the elephant in the room.

[ShotgunDawg]

It was known but like you said good to get him on campus. Things are trending well but of course Bama is the elephant in the room.

What are the odds that they take him?

This is getting to the point where surely Knott is asking himself why he'd rather go to Bama, where they are keeping him warm, or go to MSU, where they desperately want him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What are the odds that they take him?

This is getting to the point where surely Knott is asking himself why he'd rather go to Bama, where they are keeping him warm, or go to MSU, where they desperately want him.

I think it just depends on other guys. They close well I don't think they take him.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think it just depends on other guys. They close well I don't think they take him.

Then Roll Tide tonight & hopefully AJ Brown already knows he's going to MSU

[CadaverDawg]

We just offered this 2017 CB. 4 star out of Cali....I'm assuming Buckley was on this guy. I'm already feeling a huge surge from the Buckley hire on a national scale. Really fired up to have him on our staff.

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We just offered this 2017 CB. 4 star out of Cali....I'm assuming Buckley was on this guy. I'm already feeling a huge surge from the Buckley hire on a national scale. Really fired up to have him on our staff.

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

I don't think so he didn't have a Louisville offer.

[CadaverDawg]

I don't think so he didn't have a Louisville offer.

Even better, maybe we are just stepping up our game or have some type of "in" with this kid. Do you know much about him?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Even better, maybe we are just stepping up our game or have some type of "in" with this kid. Do you know much about him?

I don't think so. We've offered several guys from Cali before. That's never been the issue the problem is getting them on campus.

[HancockCountyDog]

We just offered this 2017 CB. 4 star out of Cali....I'm assuming Buckley was on this guy. I'm already feeling a huge surge from the Buckley hire on a national scale. Really fired up to have him on our staff.

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

THere is a ton of a movement going on in the coaching staffs of the PAC-12 schools. UCLA is re-tooling. USC is re-tooling. It would be nice to get him to visit.

[Really Clark?]

OL Stallings, So Car commit is suppose to vist this weekend and OL Jones from Al next weekend for those looking for some names that you may not have heard of on the OL.

[msstate7]

Think we get any commitments this weekend? If so, who?

[ShotgunDawg]

Think we get any commitments this weekend? If so, who?

I think Kobe & Lashley commit this weekend. Then, hopefully we can get either Couch or Simmons, but I think Simmons, Brown, & Knott go down to the wire.

It's scary

[HancockCountyDog]

I think Kobe & Lashley commit this weekend. Then, hopefully we can get either Couch or Simmons, but I think Simmons, Brown, & Knott go down to the wire.

It's scary

Does anyone have a list of guys visiting this weekend that they can post in this thread.

[ShotgunDawg]

Does anyone have a list of guys visiting this weekend that they can post in this thread.

Weekend of Jan. 15-17
Nero Nelson
Jordan Thomas
Marquiss Spencer
Dareuan Parker
Greg Eiland
Kobe Jones
OL Scott Lashley
DL Jeffery Simmons
CB Nigel Knott
Raekwon Davis
Desmond Fitzpatrick
OL and South Carolina commit Cecil Stallings
Jamal Couch

Weekend of Jan. 22-24
Erroll Thompson
Korey Charles
Cameron Dantzler
Lloyd Cushenberry of Dutchtown (La.) HS
OL Malik Clark of Landry-Walker (La.) HS
WR/DB Marquez Callaway of Warner-Robins (Ga.) HS
WR Velus Jones of Saraland (Ala.) HS
ATH John Michael Hankerson of South Bend (Ind.) HS
OL D'Angelo Jones of Gordo (Ala.) HS

[msstate7]

Weekend of Jan. 15-17
Nero Nelson
Jordan Thomas
Marquiss Spencer
Dareuan Parker
Greg Eiland
Kobe Jones
OL Scott Lashley
DL Jeffery Simmons
CB Nigel Knott
Raekwon Davis
Desmond Fitzpatrick
OL and South Carolina commit Cecil Stallings
Jamal Couch

Weekend of Jan. 22-24
Erroll Thompson
Korey Charles
Cameron Dantzler
Lloyd Cushenberry of Dutchtown (La.) HS
OL Malik Clark of Landry-Walker (La.) HS
WR/DB Marquez Callaway of Warner-Robins (Ga.) HS
WR Velus Jones of Saraland (Ala.) HS
ATH John Michael Hankerson of South Bend (Ind.) HS
OL D'Angelo Jones of Gordo (Ala.) HS

Where's moon the next 2 weekends? Is a visit here likely?

[#660000]

Does anyone have a list of guys visiting this weekend that they can post in this thread.

http://mississippistate.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Visits

Desmond Fitzpatrick
Raekwon Davis
Kobe Jones
Jeffery Simmons
Dareuan Parker
Greg Eiland
Jordan Thomas
Nero Nelson
Marquiss Spencer
Nigel Knott

[Really Clark?]

Where's moon the next 2 weekends? Is a visit here likely?

Moon hasn't set it up yet. Have to wait and see

[ShotgunDawg]

Moon hasn't set it up yet. Have to wait and see

This probably won't be updated until we hire a DC & he's has a chance to speak with Moon

[Ifyouonlyknew]

OL Stallings, So Car commit is suppose to vist this weekend and OL Jones from Al next weekend for those looking for some names that you may not have heard of on the OL.

Stallings is a DE & I'll be very very surprised if we take Deangelo Jones.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Does anyone have a list of guys visiting this weekend that they can post in this thread.

Just an FYI, I've got it linked to 247 in the first post of this thread.

[Really Clark?]

Stallings is a DE & I'll be very very surprised if we take Deangelo Jones.

Good lord. That's right my bad. Saw DL and for some reason had OL in my head. Yeah I think Jones is a long shot. Even if someone falls through he probably isn't a take.

[HancockCountyDog]

Just an FYI, I've got it linked to 247 in the first post of this thread.

Here is the list as of today:

Desmond Fitzpatrick
Raekwon Davis
Kobe Jones
Jeffery Simmons
Dareun Parker
Greg Eiland
Jordan Thomas
Nero Nelson
Marquiss Spencer
Nigel Knott

So, yeah - pretty big weekend. Based on who is visiting, we need AJ to be here this weekend recruiting for us this weekend. Is he going anywhere this weekend?

[ShotgunDawg]

Based on who is visiting, we need AJ to be here this weekend recruiting for us this weekend. Is he going anywhere this weekend?

He says he is visiting Bama this weekend, but there are some who are pretty sure he'll be at MSU this weekend.

Bo Bounds even made a bet this morning with his mumbling co-host that AJ would be at MSU this weekend.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

with his mumbling co-host

Just another reason I stopped listening to the show. It's one thing to be a fan of a school, but he's using his role as a producer to control the perception on any ole miss topic.

[DancingRabbit]

We just offered this 2017 CB. 4 star out of Cali....I'm assuming Buckley was on this guy. I'm already feeling a huge surge from the Buckley hire on a national scale. Really fired up to have him on our staff.

http://247sports.com/Player/Deommodore-Lenoir-75973

This kid's coach gave a shout out to Dan from the coach's convention. Maybe he and Dan have a previous connection?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAZ6LvutERWoRL6y2HHz7Lq93M0hA5xLqOBKb80/

[Statefan]

Here is the list as of today:

Desmond Fitzpatrick
Raekwon Davis
Kobe Jones
Jeffery Simmons
Dareun Parker
Greg Eiland
Jordan Thomas
Nero Nelson
Marquiss Spencer
Nigel Knott

So, yeah - pretty big weekend. Based on who is visiting, we need AJ to be here this weekend recruiting for us this weekend. Is he going anywhere this weekend?

Is Lashley visiting? Didnt know if he wasnt or if you accidentally left him out

[msstate7]

He says he is visiting Bama this weekend, but there are some who are pretty sure he'll be at MSU this weekend.

Bo Bounds even made a bet this morning with his mumbling co-host that AJ would be at MSU this weekend.
So if aj shows up here this weekend instead of bama, it's got to mean we're the leader right?

[ShotgunDawg]

So if aj shows up here this weekend instead of bama, it's got to mean we're the leader right?

I think we are the leader either way. Him showing up this weekend would put an exclamation point on that though

[engie]

So if aj shows up here this weekend instead of bama, it's got to mean we're the leader right?

If he shows up to MSU this weekend, I think everyone else goes ahead and waves the white flag. That's the main reason I am expecting him to take the Bama visit.

[CadaverDawg]

This kid's coach gave a shout out to Dan from the coach's convention. Maybe he and Dan have a previous connection?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAZ6LvutERWoRL6y2HHz7Lq93M0hA5xLqOBKb80/

Awesome, thanks for sharing. That can't hurt

[HancockCountyDog]

My thought is that for AJ to not take any visits after complaining about not being recruited hard by other schools, it would be odd.

I don't care when he shows up, but I would prefer for him to be here this weekend, letting big time guys like Simmons and Knott know he is coming.

Top players like knowing that other top players will be joining them.

[CadaverDawg]

My thought is that for AJ to not take any visits after complaining about not being recruited hard by other schools, it would be odd.

I don't care when he shows up, but I would prefer for him to be here this weekend, letting big time guys like Simmons and Knott know he is coming.

Top players like knowing that other top players will be joining them.

I'm with you. If he doesn't OV, I won't throw in the towel...but my confidence in him wearing maroon will take a hit for sure.

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm with you. If he doesn't OV, I won't throw in the towel...but my confidence in him wearing maroon will take a hit for sure.

Yeah, I still think he visits. Im not going to worry too much about him, based on the news I heard about him last week I just feel better about him, and I felt pretty good about him already.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZUBxd5C3zZpQvRVSwCRA4s01Sjp4eo ZuaAEgWZaeTxUETJcny

[CadaverDawg]

Yeah, I still think he visits. Im not going to worry too much about him, based on the news I heard about him last week I just feel better about him, and I felt pretty good about him already.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZUBxd5C3zZpQvRVSwCRA4s01Sjp4eo ZuaAEgWZaeTxUETJcny

That's encouraging

[msstate7]

Yeah, I still think he visits. Im not going to worry too much about him, based on the news I heard about him last week I just feel better about him, and I felt pretty good about him already.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZUBxd5C3zZpQvRVSwCRA4s01Sjp4eo ZuaAEgWZaeTxUETJcny

If Hancock feels good, I feel good. He's never steered me wrong

[CadaverDawg]

If Hancock feels good, I feel good. He's never steered me wrong

I agree

[msstate7]

Just looked at Fitzpatrick's visits. He's already visited Nebraska (nov 7) and Indiana (dec 11). Besides us, he's only scheduled to visit Louisville (Jan 30) and we hired their recruiter. We may have a real shot at this kid

[engie]

I agree that it seems like we've got a pretty good shot there... Just on process of elimination...

[preachermatt83]

The fact that we are having to scrap and worry abt whether or not we get a starkville kid while OM locks down the Oxford kid out of the gate should be a concern to our leadership but of course it's not. That's why the Bears are beating us and are gonna keep doing it.

[Todd4State]

The fact that we are having to scrap and worry abt whether or not we get a starkville kid while OM locks down the Oxford kid out of the gate should be a concern to our leadership but of course it's not. That's why the Bears are beating us and are gonna keep doing it.

Meanwhile we have a commitment from Drelan Porter from South Panola.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

It's the OOS guys that are giving Ole Miss such a great class.

[maroonmania]

It's the OOS guys that are giving Ole Miss such a great class.

Well absolutely. If we were reeling in the kind of OOS guys that OM is currently getting then we wouldn't all be sweating out the in state guys like we are right now.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Meanwhile we have a commitment from Drelan Porter from South Panola.

LOL Isn't he going to Juco?

[Dawgology]

The fact that we are having to scrap and worry abt whether or not we get a starkville kid while OM locks down the Oxford kid out of the gate should be a concern to our leadership but of course it's not. That's why the Bears are beating us and are gonna keep doing it.

All day long. It's a real problem.

[engie]

The fact that we are having to scrap and worry abt whether or not we get a starkville kid while OM locks down the Oxford kid out of the gate should be a concern to our leadership but of course it's not. That's why the Bears are beating us and are gonna keep doing it.

The name Liggins ring a bell?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The fact that we are having to scrap and worry abt whether or not we get a starkville kid while OM locks down the Oxford kid out of the gate should be a concern to our leadership but of course it's not. That's why the Bears are beating us and are gonna keep doing it.

We got Gabe Myles, Aeris Williams, Justin Cox from the area locked up early. Just like Tony Conner & Snoop Brassell didn't announce until Signing Day & Jeremy Liggins announced on the square to LSU. Just because they were able to get a legacy to commit before his 10th grade year even started & we have a couple local guys deciding to enjoy the process now we have a leadership issue? I guess.

[HancockCountyDog]

The name Liggins ring a bell?

Justin Woodall.

To say the bears lock up Lafayette county is just a crock of shit. They normally get who they want from South Panola, but to say they cherry pick lafayette county is just full of it.

[maroonmania]

All day long. It's a real problem.

That's what made last year so great. Instead of us scratching and clawing to recruit top in state guys like Jamal Peters, Dontae Jones and Malik Dear, they were actually out recruiting for us.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That's what made last year so great. Instead of us scratching and clawing to recruit top in state guys like Jamal Peters, Dontae Jones and Malik Dear, they were actually out recruiting for us.

True but even last year people were freaking out over Jamal Peters & LSU. Remember Jamal didn't OV on the big instate weekend with the rest of the guys & everybody just knew he was gone. Sometimes there is a plan in place that we just don't know about.

[Cabo32]

Justin Woodall.

To say the bears lock up Lafayette county is just a crock of shit. They normally get who they want from South Panola, but to say they cherry pick lafayette county is just full of it.

Woodall is a good guy. I used to hunt with him a few years back. He hated saban...said one of the reasons he went to bama was bc saban told him he could play baseball and football while he was being recruited. When he got on campus, saban changed his tune

[HancockCountyDog]

Woodall is a good guy. I used to hunt with him a few years back. He hated saban...said one of the reasons he went to bama was bc saban told him he could play baseball and football while he was being recruited. When he got on campus, saban changed his tune

https://media.giphy.com/media/12FfNKPlSR5k2c/giphy.gif

[Cabo32]

https://media.giphy.com/media/12FfNKPlSR5k2c/giphy.gif

Go figure, right

[maroonmania]

True but even last year people were freaking out over Jamal Peters & LSU. Remember Jamal didn't OV on the big instate weekend with the rest of the guys & everybody just knew he was gone. Sometimes there is a plan in place that we just don't know about.

Freaking out is a little over the top though there was concern. Actually last year it was relatively quiet and most folks felt very good about our recruiting efforts going into late January. There was angst over Leo Lewis for sure but that was about it.

[Big4Dawg]

Figured I would post this here as well:

For you star counters & class rankers (including me):

Worst Case:
Scott Lashley - 4*
Kobe Jones - 4*
Raekwon Davis - 4*
Jamal Couch - 3*
Lloyd Cushenberry - 3

Class will be around 30.

Remaining Class:
AJ Brown - 4*
Jeffery Simmons - 4*
Nigel Knott - 4*

Sign 1 of Brown/Simmons/Knott: 22-25
Sign 2 of Brown/Simmons/Knott: 19-21
Sign 3 of Brown/Simmons/Knott: 16-18

Bonus:
Desmond Fitzpatrick - 4*
Jeremiah Moon - 4*

Goes up to 15 - we can dream.

This is all with removing Golden

[jumbo]

Just looked at Fitzpatrick's visits. He's already visited Nebraska (nov 7) and Indiana (dec 11). Besides us, he's only scheduled to visit Louisville (Jan 30) and we hired their recruiter. We may have a real shot at this kid


the fact that he immediately scheduled a visit when he found out he had an offer says a lot to me

[Big4Dawg]

the fact that he immediately scheduled a visit when he found out he had an offer says a lot to me

I agree. SEC is probably really appealing to him, esp over Neb & Indiana.

[Cabo32]

Figured I would post this here as well:

For you star counters & class rankers (including me):

Worst Case:
Scott Lashley - 4*
Kobe Jones - 4*
Raekwon Davis - 4*
Jamal Couch - 3*
Lloyd Cushenberry - 3

Class will be around 30.

Remaining Class:
AJ Brown - 4*
Jeffery Simmons - 4*
Nigel Knott - 4*

Sign 1 of Brown/Simmons/Knott: 22-25
Sign 2 of Brown/Simmons/Knott: 19-21
Sign 3 of Brown/Simmons/Knott: 16-18

Bonus:
Desmond Fitzpatrick - 4*
Jeremiah Moon - 4*

Goes up to 15 - we can dream.

This is all with removing Golden

The insiders on this board say we're in good shape with brown, Simmons and knott. From reading interviews..I have no clue about knott..I hope/think we'll beat out bama for brown..and simmons seems high on us as well. It looks like OM may get Gary..so that might help us with Simmons

[LibraryDawg]

I met Morgan-Walker and Christian Roberson today. They both seem like good kids. They were talking about their first team meeting.

[615]

Has anyone heard anything about Ben Davis from Alabama being a surprise visitor? Auburn buddy says he might be coming

[msstate7]

Buckley promptly got us a visit from a 4* wr. Can Sirmon (recruiting cood) do the same? Maybe he can find us a couple olinemen out west

[msstate7]

Has anyone heard anything about Ben Davis from Alabama being a surprise visitor? Auburn buddy says he might be coming

I guess it'd be cool to have him visit, but I hope we don't waste much time on him.

[huffy]

Buckley promptly got us a visit from a 4* wr. Can Sirmon (recruiting cood) do the same? Maybe he can find us a couple olinemen out west

Maybe with this kid?

http://247sports.com/Player/Jack-Sirmon-80403

https://twitter.com/jackson_sirmon/status/687046620634955776

Varsity Preps was quick on the draw. haha.

[msstate7]

Maybe with this kid?

http://247sports.com/Player/Jack-Sirmon-80403

https://twitter.com/jackson_sirmon/status/687046620634955776

Varsity Preps was quick on the draw. haha.

Will Starkville high have gay and this kid at lb next year? Hopefully they both end up at state too

[ShotgunDawg]

Moon has been added to this weekend's visit list

[HancockCountyDog]

FYI, you are going to hear a lot about AJ Brown and Bama from now until signing day. Please ignore. Don't say anything bad about the kid, let him enjoy his visits, let him enjoy the attention. In the end, I truly believe that he ends up at MSU.

[HancockCountyDog]

Also, Im totally fine with us missing out on Willie Allen from Louisiana. He was awful in the all star games, if he does sign with LSU, I don't think he breaks into the starting lineup.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

FYI, you are going to hear a lot about AJ Brown and Bama from now until signing day. Please ignore. Don't say anything bad about the kid, let him enjoy his visits, let him enjoy the attention. In the end, I truly believe that he ends up at MSU.



You know that's too much to ask for. Let's all panic & go nuts.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Expect a few visits that are not known to come out after this weekend and next weekend. Let's just call it the Sirmon Effect

[Big4Dawg]

Moon is visiting but he seems pretty solid with Florida.

[ShotgunDawg]

Moon is visiting but he seems pretty solid with Florida.

Seems solid, but he does say MSU feels like home. We'll just have to wait and see.

I feel like Moon could be one where his recruitment is just beginning

[ShotgunDawg]

Expect a few visits that are not known to come out after this weekend and next weekend. Let's just call it the Sirmon Effect

Just get us in the top 20 of the recruiting rankings.

If we do that on a year in -year out basis, we will have a ton talent &, with good QB play, should be a complete enough team to compete for the West.

Last year was a top 20 class & 2017 appears to be a slam dunk top 20 class. If we can get on this year, that would be three straight top 20 classes & a great foundation from which to build a championship team.

[Big4Dawg]

Expect a few visits that are not known to come out after this weekend and next weekend. Let's just call it the Sirmon Effect

Any names?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Just get us in the top 20 of the recruiting rankings.

I disagree to an extent. If that Top 20 doesn't include some QUALITY O and D Linemen, it doesn't mean much for our chances in the West.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Any names?

Can't yet.

But like the old song says "I've got sunshine, on a rainy day"

[ShotgunDawg]

I disagree to an extent. If that Top 20 doesn't include some QUALITY O and D Linemen, it doesn't mean much for our chances in the West.

I agree with that. However, generally, if you are recruiting in the top 20, you should have those

[NeshobaChuck]

"Just give me the answer" (in my Billy Madison voice)

[HancockCountyDog]

I think you are going to see a few guys who committed to UGA and Bama back off their commits or get dropped after this weekend. I think you will see us get in the game with these guys after this weekend.

[yjnkdawg]

FYI, you are going to hear a lot about AJ Brown and Bama from now until signing day. Please ignore. Don't say anything bad about the kid, let him enjoy his visits, let him enjoy the attention. In the end, I truly believe that he ends up at MSU.



I wish some, of these suppposedly mature adults, would not take what a recruit says on twitter and try to determine what he means, because they don't have a clue what he was thinking at the time or his reason for tweeting what he did.

[ScoobaDawg]

Expect a few visits that are not known to come out after this weekend and next weekend. Let's just call it the Sirmon Effect

I like the way this is sounding...

[engie]

I disagree to an extent. If that Top 20 doesn't include some QUALITY O and D Linemen, it doesn't mean much for our chances in the West.

OL is the only place we need to upgrade. And Lashley, Champion, and Rankin imply that we are doing that already. If people are waiting on us to start pulling day 1 elite OL -- they will be waiting for awhile most likely. But all 3 of those are high ceiling guys.

[ScoobaDawg]

Hancock no more insanely large jcp ads whatever the heck that was for....

[HancockCountyDog]

Hancock no more insanely large jcp ads whatever the heck that was for....

Yeah, sorry about that, it wasn't supposed to be that big.

http://i.imgur.com/cspFdSg.gif

[NeshobaChuck]

Could this mean guys like Derrick brown and some top guys Sirmon has committed to USC??

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

OL is the only place we need to upgrade. And Lashley, Champion, and Rankin imply that we are doing that already. If people are waiting on us to start pulling day 1 elite OL -- they will be waiting for awhile most likely. But all 3 of those are high ceiling guys.

I'm not expecting day 1 elites, I just don't want to sign some warm bodies that appear to be elite. We've missed on some "top rated" guys that we were counting on and it's killing our depth. Will Champion ever get out of Juco?

[engie]

I'm not expecting day 1 elites, I just don't want to sign some warm bodies that appear to be elite. We've missed on some "top rated" guys that we were counting on and it's killing our depth. Will Champion ever get out of Juco?

IMO our miss is in not taking more guys -- and letting the ones we have stick around too long when it's pretty clear what they are and are not. And this is even with them still managing to cull themselves...

[HancockCountyDog]

IMO our miss is in not taking more guys -- and letting the ones we have stick around too long when it's pretty clear what they are and are not. And this is even with them still managing to cull themselves...

Great point. This may go against Mullen's overall strategy, but he needs to get guys to agree to go on medical scholarship like Saban does.

[Really Clark?]

Great point. This may go against Mullen's overall strategy, but he needs to get guys to agree to go on medical scholarship like Saban does.

Well he has started doing this more. How many recently? 2? 3?

[HancockCountyDog]

Well he has started doing this more. How many recently? 2? 3?

Im a big believer that we should be signing 25 players every year, until we simply can't.

[ShotgunDawg]

Im a big believer that we should be signing 25 players every year, until we simply can't.

Does college football need 85 scholarships?

NFL only has 53 guys & a practice squad of 10 or so.

Seems to me, it would help Title 9 issues with baseball & help even the playing field in college football if they reduced the scholarship limit to 75 or 80 & only allowed teams to sign 22 or 23 players a year.

[HancockCountyDog]

Does college football need 85 scholarships?

NFL only has 53 guys & a practice squad of 10 or so.

Seems to me, it would help Title 9 issues with baseball & help even the playing field in college football if they reduced the scholarship limit to 75 or 80 & only allowed teams to sign 22 or 23 players a year.

Big difference between NFL and College, in the NFL everyone can play.

Normally RS freshman and freshman aren't ready to play, that usually makes up 35 players on scholarship. If you move down to 75, you will be playing with 40 kids that can actually compete.

[ShotgunDawg]

Big difference between NFL and College, in the NFL everyone can play.

Normally RS freshman and freshman aren't ready to play, that usually makes up 35 players on scholarship. If you move down to 75, you will be playing with 40 kids that can actually compete.

Good point

[ShotgunDawg]

Listening to the Bonyard today & Rosebowl isn't very confident about AJ Brown. Says Alabama is the team to beat right now & that we need to pray that we make it through the weekend with Brown visiting Bama right after their NC.

He does say that 60% of AJ's recruitment is still to go, but that it's going to be a battle.

With no inside knowledge, I still feel confident about AJ because I just can't imagine that the MSU family, alumni, & coaches would allow a star from Starkville to get out of town. Surely, we can figure out a way to win this one.

[615]

Don't shoot me for this, but hearing Kobe Jones is far from a lock as well. I know we have heard nothing but positives for him for a very long time, don't know if anyone else has heard the same but I have heard it from someone who is pretty "in the know"

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't shoot me for this, but hearing Kobe Jones is far from a lock as well. I know we have heard nothing but positives for him for a very long time, don't know if anyone else has heard the same but I have heard it from someone who is pretty "in the know"

meh, I don't believe this one. It's rumor season, but this one doesn't pass the smell test or make sense

AJ will be a battle, but I don't think Kobe will be.

The key with AJ will be getting him to visit. It's not so much the visit that matters, it's AJ being serious enough about MSU & about his future at MSU to come on a visit.

It would be major embarrassing if we lose this one. I'm holding out hope though

[615]

Maybe all is well on the Kobe front...already got flamed for stating that rumor, wasn't trying to ruffle feathers

[maroonmania]

meh, I don't believe this one. It's rumor season, but this one doesn't pass the smell test or make sense

AJ will be a battle, but I don't think Kobe will be.

The key with AJ will be getting him to visit. It's not so much the visit that matters, it's AJ being serious enough about MSU & about his future at MSU to come on a visit.

It would be major embarrassing if we lose this one. I'm holding out hope though

Look, Brown and Simmons are hands down the top 2 players in the State this year and both within spitting distance of our campus. If we end up losing both of these guys I don't see how this recruiting season really becomes anything but disappointing. I mean to have 2 players that good right on your doorstep during the most successful period of MSU football ever and not be able to pull either one would be, to reference the Polkster, a slap in the face and punch in the gut. Just REALLY hope that doesn't happen.

[ShotgunDawg]

I mean to have 2 players that good right on your doorstep during the most successful period of MSU football ever and not be able to pull either one would be, to reference the Polkster, a slap in the face and punch in the gut. Just REALLY hope that doesn't happen.

This would certainly call me to question the future & ceiling of our football program under this current coaching staff & administration. If we lose one, their will be disappointment, but, if we lose both, there will be rioting & major disappointment in all corners of the MSU fan base.

In college sports, you can only sell two things: 1. Winning 2. Hope. Only Alabama & a few others actually win enough to sell winning. All MSU has is winning enough to buy more time for hope to come to fruition. If you lose both Simmons & Brown, how can any rational MSU fan have legitimate hope about the future of the program?

[Johnson85]

Good point

Plus the NFL can always go sign somebody mid season. If they couldn't, you probably wouldn't see them with a 53 man roster. Just a back up at every position and a punter and kicker takes up all but 7 spots. You really have to have a third QB. And then you throw in trying to have the ability to play different formations, and 53 spots wouldn't be enough. Any one injury could put you in a position where a particular formation is out the window.

[Bully13]

Maybe all is well on the Kobe front...already got flamed for stating that rumor, wasn't trying to ruffle feathers

Rebel troll alert

[defiantdog]

Don't shoot me for this, but hearing Kobe Jones is far from a lock as well. I know we have heard nothing but positives for him for a very long time, don't know if anyone else has heard the same but I have heard it from someone who is pretty "in the know"

C.J. Morgan-Walker would slap you for that statement

[HancockCountyDog]

Kobe Jones is more committed to our program than most "commits" to other SEC programs.

[maroonmania]

Listening to the Bonyard today & Rosebowl isn't very confident about AJ Brown. Says Alabama is the team to beat right now & that we need to pray that we make it through the weekend with Brown visiting Bama right after their NC.

He does say that 60% of AJ's recruitment is still to go, but that it's going to be a battle.

With no inside knowledge, I still feel confident about AJ because I just can't imagine that the MSU family, alumni, & coaches would allow a star from Starkville to get out of town. Surely, we can figure out a way to win this one.

Robertson is difficult to really know whether to trust or not because he seems to be so hit or miss from prospect to prospect. If there is any doubt he seems to get VERY conservative on MSU's chances and sometimes it pays off for him like the Sullivan kid from LA. He never really gave us as the favorite to get him even when this board and other places thought we had sewn him up and he proved to be right. But in other cases, like for example Leo Lewis, he was like the last person to know that we were actually going to get him.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Robertson is difficult to really know whether to trust or not because he seems to be so hit or miss from prospect to prospect. If there is any doubt he seems to get VERY conservative on MSU's chances and sometimes it pays off for him like the Sullivan kid from LA. He never really gave us as the favorite to get him even when this board and other places thought we had sewn him up and he proved to be right. But in other cases, like for example Leo Lewis, he was like the last person to know that we were actually going to get him.

After the Brandon Bryant ordeal, I don't put much stock into what he has to say.

[ShotgunDawg]

Here are my thoughts on AJ

1. On 247, he is listed as "cool" on Alabama's recruiting page

2. 90% of the crystal balls project AJ to MSU

3. Alabama has Calvin Ridley for 2 more years & Adarius Stewart is only a Soph

4. Alabama has two WRs committed & two other elite athletes

5. Alabama only has about 1 WR spot left & they lead for 5 star Demetris Robertson

So, AJ can go to Bama & be behind Ridley & Adarius Stewart for 1 or 2 years, or he can come to MSU, in a more pass happy offense, & potentially start as a freshman & be THE GUY for two years.

Logically, MSU holds big edge here & AJ will have to sacrifice playing time & potentially overall success by going to Bama.

[HancockCountyDog]

Here are my thoughts on AJ

1. On 247, he is listed as "cool" on Alabama's recruiting page

2. 90% of the crystal balls project AJ to MSU

3. Alabama has Calvin Ridley for 2 more years & Adarius Stewart is only a Soph

4. Alabama has two WRs committed & two other elite athletes

5. Alabama only has about 1 WR spot left & they lead for 5 star Demetris Robertson

So, AJ can go to Bama & be behind Ridley & Adarius Stewart for 1 or 2 years, or he can come to MSU, in a more pass happy offense, & potentially start as a freshman & be THE GUY for two years.

Logically, MSU holds big edge here & AJ will have to sacrifice playing time & potentially overall success by going to Bama.

All those are logical points, but you aren't dealing with someone looking to buy a car.

These are high level athletes that truly believe they are the best at their position in the country. They need to think this way in order to achieve the success they want to have.

Also, Brown is better than Stewart. He is going to play wherever he goes.

[ShotgunDawg]

All those are logical points, but you aren't dealing with someone looking to buy a car.

These are high level athletes that truly believe they are the best at their position in the country. They need to think this way in order to achieve the success they want to have.

Also, Brown is better than Stewart. He is going to play wherever he goes.

He may be better than Stewart, but Stewart is still really good & does his job. I doubt Saban is looking to replace him.

I am surprised though that Bama people don't seem to think they are getting him. Why is he only "cool" on their board & why are 90% of the crystal balls towards MSU?

I wonder if this is a case where MSU is fearing Bama maybe more than we should & Bama people are laughing at us saying, "he's going to MSU."

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Keith Gavin's recruitment is the 1 we really need to watch. He & AJ are 1A & 1B for that WR spot. Gavin OV to Bama this weekend & FSU next weekend. He's a former FSU commit & most think Bama lead & he could commit this weekend but most think he'll wait til after his visits.

[615]

Best guy is going to play for Saban. Stewart is good, but if someone comes in and is better, they are gonna play. That's how Saban and most successful coaches do it. Receiver is a position where a lot of guys will get time anyways, and like you said most of the good ones think they are the best.

[ShotgunDawg]

Best guy is going to play for Saban. Stewart is good, but if someone comes in and is better, they are gonna play. That's how Saban and most successful coaches do it. Receiver is a position where a lot of guys will get time anyways, and like you said most of the good ones think they are the best.

Adarius Stewart had 63 catches for 700 yards this year. He's playing & starting next year.......ridiculous to think otherwise.

Furthermore, former 5 star WR Robert Foster hurt his shoulder in September & missed the rest of the season. He's also going to be back next year.

Lastly, you also have former 96 rated WR Cam Sims, who started the year injured, after having a knee injury in the Spring game & not quite getting right this year, will be returning next year.

Point is, the depth chart at Bama is stacked, and, while AJ is an elite WR, he's going to have to beat out players who are older, stronger, just as highly rated, & have been around longer & know the play book better.

All this for a team that would rather run the ball than throw it.

Or, he can come to MSU & likely start & catch 40-60 passes.

Logic points to MSU. We'll just to see where his heart is.

[NeshobaChuck]

Just saw on Twitter prospect Zach Farrar 3* WR is also visiting this weekend. I didn't know who he was so I looked him up on 247 ha. He's listed at 6'4 205 4.48 40 and a vertical of 38. I wouldn't complain one bit if we landed this kid if he can really put that 40 time down and really has that vertical

[jumbo]

Just saw on Twitter prospect Zach Farrar 3* WR is also visiting this weekend. I didn't know who he was so I looked him up on 247 ha. He's listed at 6'4 205 4.48 40 and a vertical of 38. I wouldn't complain one bit if we landed this kid if he can really put that 40 time down and really has that vertical


he also plays baseball and we are telling him he can play both.

[HancockCountyDog]

Just saw on Twitter prospect Zach Farrar 3* WR is also visiting this weekend. I didn't know who he was so I looked him up on 247 ha. He's listed at 6'4 205 4.48 40 and a vertical of 38. I wouldn't complain one bit if we landed this kid if he can really put that 40 time down and really has that vertical

Let me put your mind at ease, he can not run a real 4.48 at 6'4" 205 lbs.

As always, add .2 to every 40 yard time you see reported by a recruit. That is recruiting 101, or as recruits would say recruiting 99.2.

[ShotgunDawg]

There are some thoughts on Paul's board, by trusted posters, that AJ may be already privately committed to MSU.

Does anyone think that's plausible?

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

I am not really worried about Brown. Ole Miss fans are very confident about Simmons though.

[HancockCountyDog]

There are some thoughts on Paul's board, by trusted posters, that AJ may be already privately committed to MSU.

Does anyone think that's plausible?

Yes, that is extremely plausible.

http://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/7/76/Patton.jpg/300px-Patton.jpg

[ScottH]

In the FWIW category, Rosebowl says as of today Simmons is UM/Bama.

[John Farley]

Nobody can specifically say one way or the other on Simmons right now. Anyone who does is speculating.

However, if I still had Crystal Ball Privileges, sorry I made u guys mad cause I told the truth over there, I would be Crystall Balling AJ to MSU this morning

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Nobody can specifically say one way or the other on Simmons right now. Anyone who does is speculating.

However, if I still had Crystal Ball Privileges, sorry I made u guys mad cause I told the truth over there, I would be Crystall Balling AJ to MSU this morning

How'd you lose your privileges?

[maroonmania]

In the FWIW category, Rosebowl says as of today Simmons is UM/Bama.

Man, Rosebowl has just become our little ray of sunshine. And if he calls this a "bridge class" one more time I'm going to jump through the podcast and slap him. Not even sure who coined such a pathetic term. Yea, its a smaller class of signees by the numbers but that doesn't make the quality of each signee in the class any less important than '15 or '17. Bottom line, we need more high end talent in our program to consistently compete for anything in the SEC other than just making a bowl game.

[engie]

My problem with Rosey is that he always has to pretend to know everything. And it blows up in his face a couple of times in the average cycle. When he doesn't know something -- he assumes the worst -- just like Brandon Bryant, Chris Jones, etc... Chris Jones -- who in reality only Farley got consistently correct among all of the MSU pundits in those crazy weeks...

[HancockCountyDog]

My problem with Rosey is that he always has to pretend to know everything. And it blows up in his face a couple of times in the average cycle. When he doesn't know something -- he assumes the worst -- just like Brandon Bryant, Chris Jones, etc... Chris Jones -- who in reality only Farley got consistently correct among all of the MSU pundits in those crazy weeks...

My problem with Steve that as for someone who I believe loves MSU, because I believe he does, he also loves himself just a little bit more.

When someone like Bryant does something that makes him look bad, he then tries to take all measures necessary to make himself look better, MSU be damned.

He has been saying 3 out of 4 on the GTA kids, which is a safe prediction, and if one of them doesn't take an OV to MSU Im worried that he is going to make it a bigger deal than it is, because he has been telling folks, that it is a big deal. Since he has said its a big deal, he damn sure is going to make it a big deal. Just my thoughts.

Like I have said the entire time, I won't begin, the key word is begin, to worry about AJ until he doesnt take an OV to MSU. If he doesn't, I'll begin, once again the key word is begin, to worry. I still think he shows up this weekend. Call me crazy.

[engie]

With staff turnover, Derrick Brown is no longer considered a Georgia lock. Tifwiw

[Ifyouonlyknew]

With staff turnover, Derrick Brown is no longer considered a Georgia lock. Tifwiw

Them keeping Tracy Rocker will probably be enough to get him in the end.

[NeshobaChuck]

For some reason I have a gut/hunch feeling we get Derrick brown

[HancockCountyDog]

Some good news on the recruiting front, it looks like Bama will land Shyheim Carter a CB from Kentwood, LA. He was leaning to UGA, but it looks like Bama will get him. This is great news with Knott since they are pretty much the same player. I expect he will either commit this weekend or before his scheduled Bama visit.

[msstate7]

Some good news on the recruiting front, it looks like Bama will land Shyheim Carter a CB from Kentwood, LA. He was leaning to UGA, but it looks like Bama will get him. This is great news with Knott since they are pretty much the same player. I expect he will either commit this weekend or before his scheduled Bama visit.

Is carter's visit this weekend?

[HancockCountyDog]

He visits Bama next weekend.

[msstate7]

If we can somehow pull knott, we're putting together a solid, young secondary...

Peters
Bryant
Mclaurin
Smitherman
Stamps
Knott
Morgan-walker

[Really Clark?]

OL Stewart Reese possible visit Jan 22. I think been working on him for a while, IYOK can probably tell us more and confirm that. FSU lean.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

OL Stewart Reese possible visit Jan 22. I think been working on him for a while, IYOK can probably tell us more and confirm that. FSU lean.

He's considered a fsu lean but they pushed his OV back to the 29th. Got other guys ahead of him trying to lock up he's the backup plan. Would be a helluva pull.

[CadaverDawg]

He's considered a fsu lean but they pushed his OV back to the 29th. Got other guys ahead of him trying to lock up he's the backup plan. Would be a helluva pull.

What's the story on Reese's ranking? Has a ton of offers.

http://247sports.com/Player/Stewart-Reese-38981

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Wyatt just said on H2H that if AJ doesn't take an OV to MSU, he's not going there. His tea leaves say AJ to bama.

[Really Clark?]

What's the story on Reese's ranking? Has a ton of offers.

http://247sports.com/Player/Stewart-Reese-38981

Mid-high 3 star looks about right. They are fairly coveted by even elite teams. Especially if they miss a guy or two. He is a big dude who might need some dietary work.

[Really Clark?]

Wyatt just said on H2H that if AJ doesn't take an OV to MSU, he's not going there. His tea leaves say AJ to bama.

His tea bag just busted, throws off the reading. Let's wait until visits are over to readdress AJ

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

His tea bag just busted, throws off the reading. Let's wait until visits are over to readdress AJ

I sure hope so, but it was strange hearing him say that and Dick Cross be the one to say "yeah, but he's been there a million times."

[msstate7]

I sure hope so, but it was strange hearing him say that and Dick Cross be the one to say "yeah, but he's been there a million times."

Hopefully Matt knows aj will visit and just stirring the pot

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Back to Stewart Reese he's taking an OV to Syracuse this weekend, MSU on the 22nd, FSU on the 29th, & may squeeze a mid-week to Illinois. It's going to come down to does FSU have room. They have 2 OL ahead of him that lead for & if they close on them won't have room for him. He'd be a really good late pull for Hev & the OL.