2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

[Covercorner2]

The DE committed to Oregon State won't be coming in today, flight cancelled.

He is now driving in from ATL....

[HancockCountyDog]

He's on his way now by car.

Isn't he from Miami?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Isn't he from Miami?

His connecting flight from ATL got cancelled but we have someone escorting him to Starkville. He will make it in tonight.

[msstate7]

He's on his way now by car.

Gotta think we have a good shot here. Can't keep this kid from coming...

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

16 sacks in 1st year of playing football? WOW I smell a diamond in the rough...

[preachermatt83]

I see Fletcher Cox and Josh Boyd are hanging out in starkville this weekend. That can't hurt.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I see Fletcher Cox and Josh Boyd are hanging out in starkville this weekend. That can't hurt.

Yep Preston Smith & Gabe Jackson was in town last weekend.

[MSUDawg99]

Yep Preston Smith & Gabe Jackson was in town last weekend.

I like this kind of recruiting tactic. I'm sure it's not new but I like it. Call in some big boys to help wooo these croots. Hell I see that our baseball staff & facilities are doing some football recruiting too. Thanks Cohen for helping us get Farrar. Now go get AJ Brown too.

[msstate7]

DT's still on the board...

D. Brown
Simmons
R. Davis
Kobe

If we can pull one of the top 2 and get Davis qualified, this will be a very good DT class. If we get all 4, this could be the best DT class in the country

[Dawgology]

DT's still on the board...

D. Brown
Simmons
R. Davis
Kobe

If we can pull one of the top 2 and get Davis qualified, this will be a very good DT class. If we get all 4, this could be the best DT class in the country

Will we actually get any of those? All I keep hearing is that Davis is going juco, brown to Georgia or auburn and the other two to UM. I really hope I'm wrong but I am VERY disappointed in the way out local kids have been handled this season. I honestly do not understand what is going on. For other schools, especially ****ing um being in play for athletes in our backyard at this juncture in the recruiting season is ****ing unanacceptable. I've never seen anything like it. So pissed this morning!

[Really Clark?]

Will we actually get any of those? All I keep hearing is that Davis is going juco, brown to Georgia or auburn and the other two to UM. I really hope I'm wrong but I am VERY disappointed in the way out local kids have been handled this season. I honestly do not understand what is going on. For other schools, especially ****ing um being in play for athletes in our backyard at this juncture in the recruiting season is ****ing unanacceptable. I've never seen anything like it. So pissed this morning!

Good grief. This time last year Leo had been committed to UNM for months and many were stating he is signing with us. People flip their kid when Peters tweeted himself in a UNM t-shirt and kept talking about visiting LSU. Kobe is NOT going to UNM. Don't get sucked into the recruiting games. Go warm up by the fire, read a book or something.

[Dawgology]

Good grief. This time last year Leo had been committed to UNM for months and many were stating he is signing with us. People flip their kid when Peters tweeted himself in a UNM t-shirt and kept talking about visiting LSU. Kobe is NOT going to UNM. Don't get sucked into the recruiting games. Go warm up by the fire, read a book or something.

It's past 12 I can drink whiskey now without judging myself. That will probably help. Just read an article last night about another 5 star considering those ****ers and I woke up pissed about it. Tired of this bullshit.

[Covercorner2]

It's past 12 I can drink whiskey now without judging myself. That will probably help. Just read an article last night about another 5 star considering those ****ers and I woke up pissed about it. Tired of this bullshit.

I remember my first beer.

[HancockCountyDog]

Looks like Alabama won't land Mecole Hardman and Demetrius Robertson, both 5 star athletes that had spots ahead of Knott.

Not sure what this means for him and a firm offer, but my guess is that his offer is becoming more commitable by the day.

[msstate7]

Looks like Alabama won't land Mecole Hardman and Demetrius Robertson, both 5 star athletes that had spots ahead of Knott.

Not sure what this means for him and a firm offer, but my guess is that his offer is becoming more commitable by the day.

We have to pull 2 of Simmons, knott, and aj for me to be happy with this class. Unless we grab Derrick brown

[HancockCountyDog]

We have to pull 2 of Simmons, knott, and aj for me to be happy with this class. Unless we grab Derrick brown

I think you will be happy.

[HancockCountyDog]

Alabama people are saying Raekwon went to Bama today on an unofficial visit, and will go back next weekend. Not great news.

[CadaverDawg]

Alabama people are saying Raekwon went to Bama today on an unofficial visit, and will go back next weekend. Not great news.

Well shit.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

John talty reports Raekwon visiting Bama today.

[msstate7]

Alabama people are saying Raekwon went to Bama today on an unofficial visit, and will go back next weekend. Not great news.

So Davis trending back to bama and knott looking like he'll get the bama full court blitz soon... Is there any good news today?

[HancockCountyDog]

So Davis trending back to bama and knott looking like he'll get the bama full court blitz soon... Is there any good news today?

I saw AJ on TV at the Cal/Zona game. Pretty amusing

[STATEBALLIN]

Alabama people are saying Raekwon went to Bama today on an unofficial visit, and will go back next weekend. Not great news.

Not looking good. Bama Twitter account tweeted they are back to 3 DL with RD mentioned.

[msstate7]

I saw AJ on TV at the Cal/Zona game. Pretty amusing

Was he wearing an ole miss or bama shirt?**

[CadaverDawg]

Looks like Raekwon may not get to go where he wants to go. Sad if he doesn't end up at State. He clearly wanted to be a Dawg.

[msstate7]

Looks like Raekwon may not get to go where he wants to go. Sad if he doesn't end up at State. He clearly wanted to be a Dawg.

If bama is holding a spot for him, Davis must be closer to qualifying than expected. Bama doesn't have to take chances like us

[STATEBALLIN]

We'll see what the following days bring.

[Bdawg]

One of these years we are going to keep all of our most talented MS boys in the state! It's been improving, but it's got to become so rare that it's a shock to us when it happens. If we lose the Davis, Simmons, A Brown and Knott type of players out of our own state each year, we will never consistently compete in the upper echelon of our conference. Maybe I'm being greedy, but I want'em ALL damnit!!! Those are the type players that will make you consistently competitive, too! And they are sitting right here in our back yard and we can't lock them up. Frustrating. Maybe I need a break.

[CadaverDawg]

One of these years we are going to keep all of our most talented MS boys in the state! It's been improving, but it's got to become so rare that it's a shock to us when it happens. If we lose the Davis, Simmons, A Brown and Knott type of players out of our own state each year, we will never consistently compete in the upper echelon of our conference. Maybe I'm being greedy, but I want'em ALL damnit!!! Those are the type players that will make you consistently competitive, too! And they are sitting right here in our back yard and we can't lock them up. Frustrating. Maybe I need a break.

We will not lose AJ, Simmons, Davis, & Knott

[Really Clark?]

One of these years we are going to keep all of our most talented MS boys in the state! It's been improving, but it's got to become so rare that it's a shock to us when it happens. If we lose the Davis, Simmons, A Brown and Knott type of players out of our own state each year, we will never consistently compete in the upper echelon of our conference. Maybe I'm being greedy, but I want'em ALL damnit!!! Those are the type players that will make you consistently competitive, too! And they are sitting right here in our back yard and we can't lock them up. Frustrating. Maybe I need a break.

Rare? Actually I think if you look between us and UNM the vast majority of the best players have been staying in state the last several years

[msstate7]

We will not lose AJ, Simmons, Davis, & Knott

That would be great. I'd be happy with 3 of those... Ecstatic really

[CadaverDawg]

That would be great. I'd be happy with 3 of those... Ecstatic really

Ha, I meant we will not lose all 4 of them.

[msstate7]

Ha, I meant we will not lose all 4 of them.

Dang you! Thought you had heard good news haha

[Bdawg]

Rare? Actually I think if you look between us and UNM the vast majority of the best players have been staying in state the last several years

I said it's been improving but I want it like LSU rare. They don't lose many. And screw UNM. I want them at state. I know. I know. Only one school in the state of LA.

[Bdawg]

We will not lose AJ, Simmons, Davis, & Knott

I know we won't lose them all, but like I said, I'm being greedy. And if we want to climb the ladder, we better be landing the majority, especially since Mullen puts an emphasis on in-state guys. We just don't recruit nationally like others.

[engie]

I said it's been improving but I want it like LSU rare. They don't lose many. And screw UNM. I want them at state. I know. I know. Only one school in the state of LA.

We can start naming names. there has been a ton of talent make it out of Louisiana the last 3-4 years

[msstate7]

We can start naming names. there has been a ton of talent make it out of Louisiana the last 3-4 years

Bama's monster of a LT being a big one

[Bdawg]

We can start naming names. there has been a ton of talent make it out of Louisiana the last 3-4 years

I bet LSU got pretty much who they wanted though. That's what I mean. Keeping who you want! Sure, they missed on Dak and couple others, but they weren't top priorities at the time either(I'm thinking who we got out of LA, not other teams).

[Bdawg]

Bama's monster of a LT being a big one

Always exceptions. But y'all should understand what I'm saying

[Really Clark?]

I bet LSU got pretty much who they wanted though. That's what I mean. Keeping who you want! Sure, they missed on Dak and couple others, but they weren't top priorities at the time either(I'm thinking who we got out of LA, not other teams).

You don't know what you are talking about. Louisiana Top 10 players last year 3 went out of state, 5 year before, 3 year before that, 4 in 2012 including the Top 3 players. Should we go on? And that's just in the Top 10.

[maroonmania]

Looks like Raekwon may not get to go where he wants to go. Sad if he doesn't end up at State. He clearly wanted to be a Dawg.

I get to where I hate recruiting more every year. You've got all of this mess going on with OM and MAYBE they will get something from the NCAA on all of it but who knows. Then you've got a deal like Davis where he obviously wants to go to MSU but "deals" I'm sure are in place that are going to prevent that. And you see cases like his most every year. The whole process seemingly gets more disgusting every year.

ETA: And the last time a guy really wanted to come to MSU but wasn't allowed to he won a Heisman Trophy and a NC for Auburn.

[engie]

I bet LSU got pretty much who they wanted though. That's what I mean. Keeping who you want! Sure, they missed on Dak and couple others, but they weren't top priorities at the time either(I'm thinking who we got out of LA, not other teams).

Maybe in 2008.

The numbers just don't support what you are saying any more. There is no fence around pulling elite talent out of Louisiana. LSU gets a lot of talent in a talent-rich state. For sure. But nowhere in the country does a better job of keeping home grown talent in state than Mississippi does. It's to the point Bama is the only school still spending significant effort here chasing the elites.

[Bdawg]

You don't know what you are talking about. Louisiana Top 10 players last year 3 went out of state, 5 year before, 3 year before that, 4 in 2012 including the Top 3 players. Should we go on? And that's just in the Top 10.

I stand corrected. More perception than reality then. But to my other point, with the way we recruit so close to home we can't afford to lose our best players in our backyard and expect to gain ground on our conference elite.

Apologies for ranting last night folks. Weak moment I guess

[msstate7]

Now back to what's important... Did we receive any good news from our weekend or other schools'?

[MetEdDawg]

Any update from this weekend? Especially on Reese and Cushenberry. Those are 2 OL we could certainly use. Also notice that Aaron Dowdell is coming next weekend. We have a legit change at him?

[Really Clark?]

Any update from this weekend? Especially on Reese and Cushenberry. Those are 2 OL we could certainly use. Also notice that Aaron Dowdell is coming next weekend. We have a legit change at him?

We have to wait and see if FSU brings Reese in for OV next weekend. I think we are in good position as long as FSU doesn't push for him.

[BeastMan]

New commitment. Clanga tweets from staff. I'm guessing Couch

[Ifyouonlyknew]

New commitment. Clanga tweets from staff. I'm guessing Couch

It's Couch.

[maroonmania]

It's Couch.

Given the results with Davis and Lashley a while back, maybe Mullen should give it 24 hours before tweeting.

[HoopsDawg]

We have to wait and see if FSU brings Reese in for OV next weekend. I think we are in good position as long as FSU doesn't push for him.

FSU pushed Reese back to their last weekend. That usually means he is not a priority.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

FSU pushed Reese back to their last weekend. That usually means he is not a priority.

Yep. They have 2 OL spots left & they have 2 guys ahead of Reese they feel pretty confident in (Landon Dickerson & Jauan Williams). If they miss on 1 of those guys then he'd be next. Problem is I don't think those guys decide until Signing Day & I don't believe Reese will wait it out that long.

[HoopsDawg]

Yep. They have 2 OL spots left & they have 2 guys ahead of Reese they feel pretty confident in (Landon Dickerson & Jauan Williams). If they miss on 1 of those guys then he'd be next. Problem is I don't think those guys decide until Signing Day & I don't believe Reese will wait it out that long.

Things look fairly positive with Reese and Cushenberry even though neither committed this weekend. Those 2 with Lashley, Eiland, and Parker is a pretty decent OL class.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Things look fairly positive with Reese and Cushenberry even though neither committed this weekend. Those 2 with Lashley, Eiland, and Parker is a pretty decent OL class.

I know #'s are tight but I'm taking Aaron Dowdell in this class also.

[Noxdog]

I know #'s are tight but I'm taking Aaron Dowdell in this class also.

You have to make the #'s work on a kid like Dowdell.

People have bitched about OL signs but this could be the best overall class in ..............long time.

[maroonmania]

I know #'s are tight but I'm taking Aaron Dowdell in this class also.

So have we totally raised the white flag on R. Davis since he's not even mentioned? Or is he still considered a DL?

[HancockCountyDog]

So have we totally raised the white flag on R. Davis since he's not even mentioned? Or is he still considered a DL?

He is a juco regardless of where he signs. You don't pass SEC quality HS OL if you can get them.

[msstate7]

So cushenberry is scheduled to visit South Carolina this weekend... You guys think we get him or what?

[msstate7]

Dowdell and turner are the only scheduled visits this week. Any chance we get a few more in?

[maroonmania]

He is a juco regardless of where he signs. You don't pass SEC quality HS OL if you can get them.

Well I thought the other day when we thought we had him that folks were saying he had a reasonable chance to get qualified. I realize that JUCO is the stronger possibility though.

[HancockCountyDog]

Well I thought the other day when we thought we had him that folks were saying he had a reasonable chance to get qualified. I realize that JUCO is the stronger possibility though.

Never say never, but that's the classic, if he signs with us, he has a chance mindset.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So have we totally raised the white flag on R. Davis since he's not even mentioned? Or is he still considered a DL?

No not at all. He's coming in as a DL 1st only reason I didn't list him.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well I thought the other day when we thought we had him that folks were saying he had a reasonable chance to get qualified. I realize that JUCO is the stronger possibility though.

I've heard he's got a chance but he would have to "run the table" to get in late summer. My hope would be he signs with us & worst case he gets close enough to head to prep school like Dontea Jones.

[HancockCountyDog]

Zach Farrar was just offered by OU. Let's hope he doesn't visit.

[mic]

Zach Farrar was just offered by OU. Let's hope he doesn't visit.

That's not good....

[HancockCountyDog]

That's not good....

I'm going to wait and see if he visits.

[CadaverDawg]

Zach Farrar was just offered by OU. Let's hope he doesn't visit.

Not good at all

[msstate7]

Not good at all

The kid had opportunities to play in the big 12 and chose the sec. That and him just having his announcement will end up with him sticking imo. Maybe I'm just hoping haha

[Commercecomet24]

Something to remember about Zach is he also wants to play baseball. We offered that to him not sure OU will.

[maroonmania]

Something to remember about Zach is he also wants to play baseball. We offered that to him not sure OU will.

Also, he's already turned down Oklahoma State who has a very good football program and better traditional baseball program than Oklahoma. Do we think Oklahoma would be THAT much more attractive to him than OSU?

[HancockCountyDog]

Also, he's already turned down Oklahoma State who has a very good football program and better traditional baseball program than Oklahoma. Do we think Oklahoma would be THAT much more attractive to him than OSU?

Yes, OU is a national brand. They are a top 10 program.

It's a game changer, IF, please read that two letter word again, IF he visits.

[mic]

Come on guys..
Oklahoma > OSU and it isn't even close.
Does anyone actually think he will play much baseball if any here ??

It would be huge if we keep this guy... OU offer isn't good unless he signs with us..

[maroonmania]

Come on guys..
Oklahoma > OSU and it isn't even close.
Does anyone actually think he will play much baseball if any here ??

It would be huge if we keep this guy... OU offer isn't good unless he signs with us..

Look, I realize OU>OSU but over the last 10 years it hasn't been by a landslide with the 2 programs. And I understand OU has the name. I'm just saying OSU has had a number of top ranked teams over the past few years and he already turned them down. I mean I'm sure a lot of national folks would definitely say OSU>MSU. That's all I'm saying. Will have to see what he does with the OU offer but I know he and his Father both agreed MSU was where he wanted to be before he committed. Maybe its a game changer and maybe its not.

[Commercecomet24]

I'm not saying he plays a lot of baseball for us. He has said repeatedly he wants the option to play though and apparently that was a big deal for him. It's not about how much baseball he plays for us it's the fact he wants the chance.

[mic]

I'm not saying he plays a lot of baseball for us. He has said repeatedly he wants the option to play though and apparently that was a big deal for him. It's not about how much baseball he plays for us it's the fact he wants the chance.

All we said is that this offer from OU could be bad..
It's not like this kid lives here in Mississippi..
He may have always wanted to go to OU .. I have no idea..

And I'm sure if Stoops and OU know that him playing baseball is the deal breaker , if they want him bad enough they will agree to it as well..

If he doesn't visit we are all good , if he does visit I will worry...

[Commercecomet24]

All we said is that this offer from OU could be bad..
It's not like this kid lives here in Mississippi..
He may have always wanted to go to OU .. I have no idea..

And I'm sure if Stoops and OU know that him playing baseball is the deal breaker , if they want him bad enough they will agree to it as well..

If he doesn't visit we are all good , if he does visit I will worry...

I agree with you on the visit part. I was just pointing out something that might differentiate us from OU and that was we offered the chance to play baseball. In the end I hope the idea of playing football and baseball in the sec is enough, which I think it will be.

[msstate7]

Mizzou fan on tRant saying dowdell could cancel OV here this week and go to Missouri.

[BeastMan]

The OU offer is bad news and it makes me sad ��

[msstate7]

The OU offer is bad news and it makes me sad ��

He gonna take em up on it?

[msstate7]

Soooo... guys are we shaping up for a splash or a thud next week?

[Big4Dawg]

Here is OU247 guy on Farrer:
Got some scoop on Farrer and I am told he is a freak. The mystery is why it took OU so long to offer him after his break out senior year? He has only played wide receiver two-years after converting from quarterback so he is raw as a receiver. He is beginning to figure it out and had a great senior year catching 56-passes for 1,114-yards and 19-touchdowns. When OU didn't offer he looked around and committed to Mississippi State in December, but OU is where he wants to go. He is trying to decide whether to visit Saturday or not and OU 2017 safety commit Robert Barns says he will come up with him if that will help him. They have been friends since they were little kids.

[BeastMan]

He gonna take em up on it?

We'll need Billy G to be magical on his in-home

[Big4Dawg]

Paul is saying he is unsure if he's going to visit. If he's not even sure he's going to visit, it might not be his "dream offer" like many are indicating.

[HancockCountyDog]

If he visits, he gone, if he doesn't, he's ours.

[the59dawg]

I've heard he's got a chance but he would have to "run the table" to get in late summer. My hope would be he signs with us & worst case he gets close enough to head to prep school like Dontea Jones.

I like this option. Wish we could use it more.

[HancockCountyDog]

Look for the bears visit list to shrink by the day, their big party weekend may end up looking like a party thrown by the Key Club by the time Friday gets here and people keep canceling.

[ShotgunDawg]

Look for the bears visit list to shrink by the day, their big party weekend may end up looking like a party thrown by the Key Club by the time Friday gets here and people keep canceling.

Who all has cancelled?

[BeastMan]

If he visits, he gone, if he doesn't, he's ours.

Which is why Billy G needs to be great on the in-home.

[BeastMan]

Look for the bears visit list to shrink by the day, their big party weekend may end up looking like a party thrown by the Key Club by the time Friday gets here and people keep canceling.

Nate Craig-Meyers a casualty. I'm sure it will be reported that he was told not to come because they are full. They'll probably also say that means AJ is coming. Then when he doesn't, the excuse after NSD will be "We told Craig-Meyers not to come b/c AJ had promised the staff he was coming but hometown pressure was too much to overcome. Poor kid wanted to be a Rebel."

[Jacksondevildog]

I guess that hotel room for Myers to attend the sugar bowl will go for nothing. Right Yancy?

[ShotgunDawg]

Are we about to land Derrick Brown?

Apparently, the UGA 247 guy is saying that he doesn't think UGA gets him. Plus his parents want him at MSU.

Mullen has his in home this week.

Any thoughts?

Derrick+ Simmons+Kobe+ Davis = potential for another "Great Wall of Hell Naw"

[BrunswickDawg]

Are we about to land Derrick Brown?

Apparently, the UGA 247 guy is saying that he doesn't think UGA gets him. Plus his parents want him at MSU.

Mullen has his in home this week.

Any thoughts?

Derrick+ Simmons+Kobe+ Davis = potential for another "Great Wall of Hell Naw"

He did come through his UGA OV uncommitted....

[maroonmania]

I have literally never seen an MSU signing class with still so much up in the air this late, EVER, pre-Mullen or during the Mullen era. Guys, this could be anywhere from one of MSU's best classes ever to a well below average class (rankings wise). Its amazing there is still so much unknown barely over a week from signing day.

[msstate7]

I have literally never seen an MSU signing class with still so much up in the air this late, EVER, pre-Mullen or during the Mullen era. Guys, this could be anywhere from one of MSU's best classes ever to a well below average class (rankings wise). Its amazing there is still so much unknown barely over a week from signing day.

Gonna be a hell of a week... Either way

[HancockCountyDog]

I have literally never seen an MSU signing class with still so much up in the air this late, EVER, pre-Mullen or during the Mullen era. Guys, this could be anywhere from one of MSU's best classes ever to a well below average class (rankings wise). Its amazing there is still so much unknown barely over a week from signing day.

The Mods need to delete with extreme prejudice. There will be so much smoke coming from all directions, and our fans have never shown the ability to not type something that is pretty stupid. Just remember, 9 days until signing day, and I think this class does have a boom or bust feel to it, but I like our position with roughly 8 guys, and I think we only sign 10 more, so should be an interesting few days.

[Reason2succeed]

I have literally never seen an MSU signing class with still so much up in the air this late, EVER, pre-Mullen or during the Mullen era. Guys, this could be anywhere from one of MSU's best classes ever to a well below average class (rankings wise). Its amazing there is still so much unknown barely over a week from signing day.

From what I understand it makes a lot of sense that we have a lot up in the air this year. Our position as a program is rising year by year which puts us in the hunt for guys that we previously wouldn't have had a sniff at and would already have been totally out with them. Take the lack of certainty as a positive. Simply put, we have options now.

[Really Clark?]

As much as we have hanging out there on signing day, there doesn't seem to be a ton of new offers trying to get guys in this weekend. So either they feel really good about the ones left that have not committed or they just don't see needing to push for a lot of borderline players just to get to a certain number in this class.

[HoopsDawg]

The Mods need to delete with extreme prejudice. There will be so much smoke coming from all directions, and our fans have never shown the ability to not type something that is pretty stupid. Just remember, 9 days until signing day, and I think this class does have a boom or bust feel to it, but I like our position with roughly 8 guys, and I think we only sign 10 more, so should be an interesting few days.

Agree, we can all talk candidly after signing day. Right now, everyone just needs to remain positive.

[HancockCountyDog]

As much as we have hanging out there on signing day, there doesn't seem to be a ton of new offers trying to get guys in this weekend. So either they feel really good about the ones left that have not committed or they just don't see needing to push for a lot of borderline players just to get to a certain number in this class.

I think you will see some backup plans take visits this weekend, and Im sure the board will handle that well. We only have 15 commits, and a few of those Im sure will count backwards since 5 are enrolled. We are going to commit at least 8 more. If Farrar goes to OU or Knott gets a firm offer and takes it from Bama, or if Reese either gets a spot at FSU or for some dumb reason goes to Syracuse, we have to be ready. Personally I think it is all worked out by late Sunday on most, and then we will just be waiting on 'official' news on Wednesday morning.

[preachermatt83]

Boom or bust no doubt. Can be GREAT class... Simmons, Kobe, AJ, Knott, Lashley. 4 of that crew is a HR. 3 of the 5 is ehh, anything less is an epic failure. No matter what, losing AJ or Kobe(he's a Dawg) is inexcusable... As of right now my gut says 3 out of the 5.

[preachermatt83]

Question... How would we feel if we only landed 2 out of the big 5?

[jumbo]

Bad. Very bad.

[Technetium]

Question... How would we feel if we only landed 2 out of the big 5?

1682

[Really Clark?]

I think you will see some backup plans take visits this weekend, and Im sure the board will handle that well. We only have 15 commits, and a few of those Im sure will count backwards since 5 are enrolled. We are going to commit at least 8 more. If Farrar goes to OU or Knott gets a firm offer and takes it from Bama, or if Reese either gets a spot at FSU or for some dumb reason goes to Syracuse, we have to be ready. Personally I think it is all worked out by late Sunday on most, and then we will just be waiting on 'official' news on Wednesday morning.

I agree. It just doesn't feel like there is a rush to try and put a class together. I think the coaches really feel good about several uncommitted players.

[NeshobaChuck]

Was told by a guy I work with here in Starkville that after Kobe left TTown he caught a plane down to Miami but he said he's just enjoying the process just taking his trips

[Really Clark?]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZlp6KCWcAAjn5V?format=pjpg&name=large


Was told by a guy I work with here in Starkville that after Kobe left TTown he caught a plane down to Miami but he said he's just enjoying the process just taking his trips

[DancingRabbit]

The OU offer is bad news and it makes me sad ��

Hang in there. A couple hours ago Zach retweeted the BYU game time news with one word - SLAUGHTER

Also tweeted this picture of himself a couple hours ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZlf7xFWEAAHRcW.jpg

[Big4Dawg]

Hang in there. A couple hours ago Zach retweeted the BYU game time news with one word - SLAUGHTER

Also tweeted this picture of himself a couple hours ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZlf7xFWEAAHRcW.jpg

BYU was on of his final 5. a lot of fans tweeted at him to get ready for next year.

[Big4Dawg]

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Zach-Farrar-43139249


I am good friends with Steve Farrar, Zach's father. Steve and I have known each other for about three years and had offices next to each other for about two. We talked about Zach's recruitment all the time, including yesterday, and again this morning for over an hour. Steve told me that Stoops and Riley will be in the house tomorrow evening. Mississippi State is coming to visit again sometime this week hoping to keep Zach from going to Norman next weekend for an official visit? Not going to happen....he's going!

Someone at OU, maybe Cale, dropped the ball in his recruitment as he rarely heard from the OU coaches during the fall, even as Zach put up terrific receiving numbers for Southlake, one of the premier high school programs here in the Dallas metroplex. I have seen Zach play, he is a exceptional athlete/wide receiver, a great baseball player, sprinter, dedicated workout guy, and a great student with outstanding test scores.

The family has always wanted Zach to go to OU! Zach's girlfriend is going to enroll at OU next fall! The family is truly very excited to get the OU offer, even this late in the process. Sounds like Stoops/Riley can 'close the deal' tomorrow evening!!?

This doesn't sound good....

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

she hot too...he gone

[HoopsDawg]

Gonna be a hell of a week... Either way

I see us getting Kobe Jones, Lashley, AJ Brown, and Nigel Knott. I think Simmons goes to Ole Miss.

[msstate7]

I see us getting Kobe Jones, Lashley, AJ Brown, and Nigel Knott. I think Simmons goes to Ole Miss.

If I could take that right now, i would. I just think we have to get aj and one of knott and Simmons. Hopefully Derrick brown surprises me by picking us

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

you going on a hunch or you know something because all I hear now is Simmons to us...

[maroonmania]

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Zach-Farrar-43139249



This doesn't sound good....

Didn't really know he had that kind of connection with OU with the GF. Agree that doesn't sound good at all. Guess its good to know you can barely waste any time recruiting a kid until a week before signing day and still get him if that's what happens. Weird that he would still be tweeting MSU stuff though now if he was as hepped up on going to OU as this poster makes it sound.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

If I could take that right now, i would. I just think we have to get aj and one of knott and Simmons. Hopefully Derrick brown surprises me by picking us

Why don't we just take both

[preachermatt83]

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Zach-Farrar-43139249



This doesn't sound good....

Don't believe everything you read. That guy is full of crap. He is taking a little truth and mixing it with a lot of lies

[Big4Dawg]

His GF is actually going to OU though. That part isn't crap

[maroonmania]

Don't believe everything you read. That guy is full of crap. He is taking a little truth and mixing it with a lot of lies

I agree that something doesn't smell just right with the info this guy is spouting. Would be curious about the girlfriend angle though and whether that has any truth to it. That would be a big thing to overcome if it was true..

[maroonmania]

His GF is actually going to OU though. That part isn't crap

How have you verified that?

[msstate7]

Why don't we just take both

Even better

[HancockCountyDog]

Don't believe everything you read. That guy is full of crap. He is taking a little truth and mixing it with a lot of lies

Shit, I was just feeling better about Farrar and the absolute cooler just posted that things aren't that bad. That may be more official than a signed LOI.

[HancockCountyDog]

Hopefully Derrick brown surprises me by picking us

All I know, is that Im going to watch or listen to his signing day announcement. Im not saying it will be us, but we are in it for him.

[msstate7]

All I know, is that Im going to watch or listen to his signing day announcement. Im not saying it will be us, but we are in it for him.

Bamboo has said we're in it for a while now. Bamboo's kid is friends with Derrick or something

[Bothrops]

We ain't getting Derrick Brown.

Hopefully we can hold onto Farrar. He would be really good for our football and baseball programs.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We ain't getting Derrick Brown.

Hopefully we can hold onto Farrar. He would be really good for our football and baseball programs.

We may not get Derrick but we are definitely right in the thick of things. We are in it a lot more than the national media & most MSU fans want to admit.

[engie]

All I know, is that Im going to watch or listen to his signing day announcement. Im not saying it will be us, but we are in it for him.

And tumors today that his OV to UGA did not go well...

I feel the same way you do

[mic]

If DB goes to UGA I have no problem with that
If he goes to Aubbie , there is zero excuse...

[jumbo]

If DB goes to UGA I have no problem with that
If he goes to Aubbie , there is zero excuse...


Agree 100%

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Recruiting insiders, are these all of the names remaining on our board?

AJ Brown
Scott Lashley
Jeffery Simmons
Derrick Brown
Kobe Jones
Nigel Knott
Lloyd Cushenberry
Kenny Turnier
John Michael Hankerson

[msstate7]

Recruiting insiders, are these all of the names remaining on our board?

AJ Brown
Scott Lashley
Jeffery Simmons
Derrick Brown
Kobe Jones
Nigel Knott
Lloyd Cushenberry
Kenny Turnier
John Michael Hankerson

Dowdell
Reese

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Recruiting insiders, are these all of the names remaining on our board?

AJ Brown
Scott Lashley
Jeffery Simmons
Derrick Brown
Kobe Jones
Nigel Knott
Lloyd Cushenberry
Kenny Turnier
John Michael Hankerson

Ronnie Turner
Aaron Dowdell
Stewart Reese
Henry Miller (Even though I don't see him as a viable option)

[Covercorner2]

Ronnie Turner
Aaron Dowdell
Stewart Reese
Henry Miller (Even though I don't see him as a viable option)

No Davis?

[msstate7]

I know most of our concern is with the high star guys and rightfully so, but I really hope we get dowdell, cushenberry, and Reese. Assuming we get lashley with those 3, we'll have maybe our best oline class under Mullen.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No Davis?

Just an oversight. I guess I expected him to be on the 1st list.

[Johnson85]

I know most of our concern is with the high star guys and rightfully so, but I really hope we get dowdell, cushenberry, and Reese. Assuming we get lashley with those 3, we'll have maybe our best oline class under Mullen.

No kidding. I'm tired of flirting with disaster almost every year on the O-Line. Since 2010, the only year our OL has been more than adequate was in 2014.

[HoopsDawg]

I know most of our concern is with the high star guys and rightfully so, but I really hope we get dowdell, cushenberry, and Reese. Assuming we get lashley with those 3, we'll have maybe our best oline class under Mullen.

I hope we get 2 out of those 3. Hopefully, South Carolina decides to drop Cushenberry which seems possible and FSU doesn't offer Reese.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I hope we get 2 out of those 3. Hopefully, South Carolina decides to drop Cushenberry which seems possible and FSU doesn't offer Reese.

Both of those scenarios look really possible even though South Carolina would honor Cushenberry's commitment but they won't fight him if he flips. His mom wants him at MSU bc it's so much closer to home. It's a 50/50 shot whether or not FSU even brings Reese in for an OV this week.

[mic]

Both of those scenarios look really possible even though South Carolina would honor Cushenberry's commitment but they won't fight him if he flips. His mom wants him at MSU bc it's so much closer to home. It's a 50/50 shot whether or not FSU even brings Reese in for an OV this week.

I know for a fact USCe isnt going to drop Cush and they are still on him and want him.. ... No matter what any media sources say after the fact..
If we get him is not because they dropped him or "moved on"

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I know most of our concern is with the high star guys and rightfully so, but I really hope we get dowdell, cushenberry, and Reese. Assuming we get lashley with those 3, we'll have maybe our best oline class under Mullen.

While there's no guarantees, we certainly are bringing in the numbers to build depth. We already have Eiland, Parker, and Thomas committed. Isn't Thomas expected to move to OT?

[Big4Dawg]

Farrar Update:

Contacted Steve Farrar, Zach's Dad, earlier this morning. Zach talked to Coach Stoops last night, by phone, and he may not be coming with Riley tonight to visit with the family because of scheduling? Don't know if anybody else is coming? Mississippi State calls Zach every night, including last night, and they are coming to visit on Thursday. Steve told me that they are definitely going to Norman for the official visit this weekend, including Cazandra, Steve's wife/Zach's Mom.

Right now it appears that Zach is still excited about Mississippi State as they are telling him that he is going to 'be the man' there and they have recruited Zach a lot longer than OU. Zach wants to go to Law School. Mississippi State does not have one. That bodes well for OU. Hopefully OU will show Zach the law school and the baseball stadium? Playing baseball at OU is ultra important to Zach, he loves the sport.

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Further-Zach-Farrar-news-43159881

[ShotgunDawg]

Farrar Update:

Contacted Steve Farrar, Zach's Dad, earlier this morning. Zach talked to Coach Stoops last night, by phone, and he may not be coming with Riley tonight to visit with the family because of scheduling? Don't know if anybody else is coming? Mississippi State calls Zach every night, including last night, and they are coming to visit on Thursday. Steve told me that they are definitely going to Norman for the official visit this weekend, including Cazandra, Steve's wife/Zach's Mom.

Right now it appears that Zach is still excited about Mississippi State as they are telling him that he is going to 'be the man' there and they have recruited Zach a lot longer than OU. Zach wants to go to Law School. Mississippi State does not have one. That bodes well for OU. Hopefully OU will show Zach the law school and the baseball stadium? Playing baseball at OU is ultra important to Zach, he loves the sport.

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Further-Zach-Farrar-news-43159881

Law school is a post grad degree. MSU has pre-law, so the law school angle should be irrelevant.

[Statefan]

Farrar Update:

Contacted Steve Farrar, Zach's Dad, earlier this morning. Zach talked to Coach Stoops last night, by phone, and he may not be coming with Riley tonight to visit with the family because of scheduling? Don't know if anybody else is coming? Mississippi State calls Zach every night, including last night, and they are coming to visit on Thursday. Steve told me that they are definitely going to Norman for the official visit this weekend, including Cazandra, Steve's wife/Zach's Mom.

Right now it appears that Zach is still excited about Mississippi State as they are telling him that he is going to 'be the man' there and they have recruited Zach a lot longer than OU. Zach wants to go to Law School. Mississippi State does not have one. That bodes well for OU. Hopefully OU will show Zach the law school and the baseball stadium? Playing baseball at OU is ultra important to Zach, he loves the sport.

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Further-Zach-Farrar-news-43159881

I laughed at the law school part. He can feel free to go to OU law school AFTER his playing days at MSU or NFL are over

(Not laughing at you but the original OU poster you got that from. Are they like the Alabama fans of the big 12 or something?? Obviously have no idea how college works.........)

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No inside knowledge but this guy is starting to remind me of the guy last year who posted on LSU board who claimed to have all of this inside knowledge of Leo Lewis but really didn't know anything. We'll see if this guy is different.

[HancockCountyDog]

I know for a fact USCe isnt going to drop Cush and they are still on him and want him.. ... No matter what any media sources say after the fact..
If we get him is not because they dropped him or "moved on"

Im being told that Rosebowl is the one saying this.

[Johnson85]

Farrar Update:

Contacted Steve Farrar, Zach's Dad, earlier this morning. Zach talked to Coach Stoops last night, by phone, and he may not be coming with Riley tonight to visit with the family because of scheduling? Don't know if anybody else is coming? Mississippi State calls Zach every night, including last night, and they are coming to visit on Thursday. Steve told me that they are definitely going to Norman for the official visit this weekend, including Cazandra, Steve's wife/Zach's Mom.

Right now it appears that Zach is still excited about Mississippi State as they are telling him that he is going to 'be the man' there and they have recruited Zach a lot longer than OU. Zach wants to go to Law School. Mississippi State does not have one. That bodes well for OU. Hopefully OU will show Zach the law school and the baseball stadium? Playing baseball at OU is ultra important to Zach, he loves the sport.

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Further-Zach-Farrar-news-43159881

How is this not a recruiting violation? Aren't these recruiting sites at least supposed to pretend that they are not actively participating in recruiting in order to be able to talk to recruits? Or if it's not a 247 official, how is it not a booster contact?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!
Is this an OU 247 board mod that's actively recruiting for OU?

[Big4Dawg]

No. It's just some guy that works for Farrar's dad

[DancingRabbit]

Farrar Update:

Contacted Steve Farrar, Zach's Dad, earlier this morning. Zach talked to Coach Stoops last night, by phone, and he may not be coming with Riley tonight to visit with the family because of scheduling? Don't know if anybody else is coming? Mississippi State calls Zach every night, including last night, and they are coming to visit on Thursday. Steve told me that they are definitely going to Norman for the official visit this weekend, including Cazandra, Steve's wife/Zach's Mom.

Right now it appears that Zach is still excited about Mississippi State as they are telling him that he is going to 'be the man' there and they have recruited Zach a lot longer than OU. Zach wants to go to Law School. Mississippi State does not have one. That bodes well for OU. Hopefully OU will show Zach the law school and the baseball stadium? Playing baseball at OU is ultra important to Zach, he loves the sport.

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Further-Zach-Farrar-news-43159881

Definitely a fan-boy and not a reporter.

[ShotgunDawg]

Paul just posted a good AJ interview. Appears to be set on visiting Wed and Thursday.

Says MSU is coming on strong.

Also, Paul appears to be the only media member that can get AJ on the phone for an interview. Take that FWIW

[Commercecomet24]

Definitely a fan-boy and not a reporter.

Yeah that guys post smacks of desperation. Its almost like he's begging Zach to please come to OU! lol

[Commercecomet24]

Paul just posted a good AJ interview. Appears to be set on visiting Wed and Thursday.

Says MSU is coming on strong.

Also, Paul appears to be the only media member that can get AJ on the phone for an interview. Take that FWIW

Funny how Paul seems to be the only one that can talk to AJ. Very Interesting!

[mic]

Im being told that Rosebowl is the one saying this.

Exactly...

[Commercecomet24]

That guy from the OU board sounds like he wants to be Zach's girlfriend.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

yes especially after he told the media to leave him alone after his visit to Bama...

[HoopsDawg]

Paul just posted a good AJ interview. Appears to be set on visiting Wed and Thursday.

Says MSU is coming on strong.

Also, Paul appears to be the only media member that can get AJ on the phone for an interview. Take that FWIW

That's good b/c Steve just posted things don't look good on AJ at all. Not sure on mid-week visit and AJ hasn't been responsive about meeting with Cohen to discuss baseball. We'll see who is right tomorrow.

[HancockCountyDog]

That's good b/c Steve just posted things don't look good on AJ at all. Not sure on mid-week visit and AJ hasn't been responsive about meeting with Cohen to discuss baseball. We'll see who is right tomorrow.

It sounds like to me that Rosebowl is getting blackballed by AJ and he is taking it out on AJ. This happened with Bryant when Bryant made him look bad by going on the USM visit, and then Steve bashed him on Twitter.

Now, AJ is being dismissive to Cohen?

If anyone likes Rosey because of all the NCAA about to hammer the bears talk, thats great - but please understand this is exactly what he does when he puts Steve first and MSU second.

[Commercecomet24]

It sounds like to me that Rosebowl is getting blackballed by AJ and he is taking it out on AJ. This happened with Bryant when Bryant made him look bad by going on the USM visit, and then Steve bashed him on Twitter.

Now, AJ is being dismissive to Cohen?

If anyone likes Rosey because of all the NCAA about to hammer the bears talk, thats great - but please understand this is exactly what he does when he puts Steve first and MSU second.

Perfectly said and dead on accurate. Anytime a recruit wont talk to Steve he get's his panties in a bunch.

[ShotgunDawg]

That's good b/c Steve just posted things don't look good on AJ at all. Not sure on mid-week visit and AJ hasn't been responsive about meeting with Cohen to discuss baseball. We'll see who is right tomorrow.

I could be wrong, but between Paul & Robbie, I would guess that they both have more sources on AJ than Rosebowl.

Paul and Robbie are 2 people and both have lived in Starkville far longer than Steve and, due to that, should have more personal relationships with AJ and family members than Steve.

Don't forget that Robbie also works for the SDN and covers Starkville HS sports. Just seems like it would be difficult for Steve to have better sources on this particular player than Paul and Robbie. This thinking also seems to be confirmed by the fact Paul appears to be the only reporter between MSU, Ole Miss, and Bama that can get an interview with AJ.

We shall soon see.

[Todd4State]

I could be wrong, but between Paul & Robbie, I would guess that they both have more sources on AJ than Rosebowl.

Paul and Robbie are 2 people and both have lived in Starkville far longer than Steve and, due to that, should have more personal relationships with AJ and family members than Steve.

Don't forget that Robbie also works for the SDN and covers Starkville HS sports. Just seems like it would be difficult for Steve to have better sources on this particular player than Paul and Robbie. This thinking also seems to be confirmed by the fact Paul appears to be the only reporter between MSU, Ole Miss, and Bama that can get an interview with AJ.

We shall soon see.

I don't think it has anything to do with how long they have lived there. I think it has to do with the fact that Paul isn't a conceited asshole.

[Todd4State]

It sounds like to me that Rosebowl is getting blackballed by AJ and he is taking it out on AJ. This happened with Bryant when Bryant made him look bad by going on the USM visit, and then Steve bashed him on Twitter.

Now, AJ is being dismissive to Cohen?

If anyone likes Rosey because of all the NCAA about to hammer the bears talk, thats great - but please understand this is exactly what he does when he puts Steve first and MSU second.

THIS

[preachermatt83]

THIS

This!

[preachermatt83]

Farrar Update:

Contacted Steve Farrar, Zach's Dad, earlier this morning. Zach talked to Coach Stoops last night, by phone, and he may not be coming with Riley tonight to visit with the family because of scheduling? Don't know if anybody else is coming? Mississippi State calls Zach every night, including last night, and they are coming to visit on Thursday. Steve told me that they are definitely going to Norman for the official visit this weekend, including Cazandra, Steve's wife/Zach's Mom.

Right now it appears that Zach is still excited about Mississippi State as they are telling him that he is going to 'be the man' there and they have recruited Zach a lot longer than OU. Zach wants to go to Law School. Mississippi State does not have one. That bodes well for OU. Hopefully OU will show Zach the law school and the baseball stadium? Playing baseball at OU is ultra important to Zach, he loves the sport.

Steve is going to call me later today for updates. I'm trying!!! I want Zach at OU!

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Contents/Further-Zach-Farrar-news-43159881


This is where this guy loses ALL credibility!!! Anybody we have ever recruited will tell you that our staff does NOT do this. We tell them they will have a chance to compete if they work hard.

[Commercecomet24]

I don't think it has anything to do with how long they have lived there. I think it has to do with the fact that Paul isn't a conceited asshole.

^^^^^THIS! I spit my pepsi all over my keyboard!

[HancockCountyDog]

So Steve basically bashes AJ the same day Paul gets a detailed interview with him and we don't think this is a coincidence.

https://usatlife.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/giphy5.gif?w=645&h=364

[HoopsDawg]

THIS

Steve is a hard worker. He runs a camp. He watches a ton of video. He goes and sees these kids play in person. He does Bulldog radio and he does the website. Steve is generally more knowledgeable than other website guys about the recruits. In the case of AJ, hopefully he is wrong, but it definitely gives reason for pause. Personally, I feel if AJ doesn't officially visit mid-week, he doesn't sign with us.

[HoopsDawg]

So Steve basically bashes AJ the same day Paul gets a detailed interview with him and we don't think this is a coincidence.

https://usatlife.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/giphy5.gif?w=645&h=364

Steve did not bash AJ. He just feels Bama has a strong lead.

[HancockCountyDog]

Steve did not bash AJ. He just feels Bama has a strong lead.

Ok - I don't have a subscription to genespage, but I don't see the reason to say he hasn't responded to Cohen.

Lets hope Steve is wrong, I believe he is. Its also possible Steve is just trying to build suspense.

[Shooter McGavin]

Just so I have all this straight...

Paul, Robbie, as well as the elitedawgs recruiting gurus feel really confident on AJ. Steve the exact opposite.

Our guys feel confident about Simmons. Steve the opposite.

Someone is going to have egg on their face on signing day.

[sandwolf]

Paul, Robbie, as well as the elitedawgs recruiting gurus feel really confident on AJ. Steve the exact opposite.

Correct.


Our guys feel confident about Simmons. Steve the opposite.

No, Steve is saying that it is still a 3 team race for Simmons between us, Bama and OM.

[Really Clark?]

Just so I have all this straight...

Paul, Robbie, as well as the elitedawgs recruiting gurus feel really confident on AJ. Steve the exact opposite.

Our guys feel confident about Simmons. Steve the opposite.

Someone is going to have egg on their face on signing day.

I don't there is a strong consensus on Simmons. It's been pretty consistant that he is a big battle. The best I have really seen is that we are in a better position lately for him.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

There is a ridiculous rumor in a thread on SPS about Simmons. Look for yourself. I won't repeat it on here because it is so ridiculous

[maroonmania]

Steve did not bash AJ. He just feels Bama has a strong lead.

But I just wonder what he is basing this on? I almost feel like Steve is extrapolating that a cold shoulder to him by AJ equals a cold shoulder to MSU. Its obvious after the Brandon Bryant incident that Steve doesn't have close sources on the coaching staff. I really have no clue what Steve is basing his assessment on about where AJ is leaning. I mean to say AJ is 80-85% going to Bama it would seem you would need someone close to the situation to dole out numbers like that but I don't see that Steve has any. Almost appears like he is going off of gut feel.

[ShotgunDawg]

There is a ridiculous rumor in a thread on SPS about Simmons. Look for yourself. I won't repeat it on here because it is so ridiculous

Haha. Ridiculous.

We've officially reached silly season.

[the59dawg]

Steve did not bash AJ. He just feels Bama has a strong lead.

++ I agree with this post. You few Steve haters aren't doing MSU any good with your crap. IMO Steve's credibility is good with most posters on the 3 main MSU boards

[the59dawg]

But I just wonder what he is basing this on? I almost feel like Steve is extrapolating that a cold shoulder to him by AJ equals a cold shoulder to MSU. Its obvious after the Brandon Bryant incident that Steve doesn't have close sources on the coaching staff. I really have no clue what Steve is basing his assessment on about where AJ is leaning. I mean to say AJ is 80-85% going to Bama it would seem you would need someone close to the situation to dole out numbers like that but I don't see that Steve has any. Almost appears like he is going off of gut feel.

I am sure that I have read everything Steve has posted and I have NOT seen any number like 80-85 % anywhere. It may have been discussed in chat, but I have not read this. Anyone else to help either me or Mr. maroonmania out on this? Even Paul has only been 50-50. That's far from being confident in my mind.

[Really Clark?]

++ I agree with this post. You few Steve haters aren't doing MSU any good with your crap. IMO Steve's credibility is good with most posters on the 3 main MSU boards

See here is two recent issues many have with helping MSU and it concerns Gene's pages. Devinner and Brandon Bryant. At times when it comes down to helping the school and reporting responsibility vs themselves, they choose themselves. How times has he leaked info on a kid that had asked to withhold the info? Things like that hurts us much more than what is posted here. I don't bash Steve like many others. Actually talk with him from time to time. But he has done some questionable things that Paul would never even consider doing.

[engie]

++ I agree with this post. You few Steve haters aren't doing MSU any good with your crap. IMO Steve's credibility is good with most posters on the 3 main MSU boards

Short memory. And no. Steve generally has one good class that he's in tune with followed by one that he's wrong as much as he is right. And he was right last year.

[HoopsDawg]

See here is two recent issues many have with helping MSU and it concerns Gene's pages. Devinner and Brandon Bryant. At times when it comes down to helping the school and reporting responsibility vs themselves, they choose themselves. How times has he leaked info on a kid that had asked to withhold the info? Things like that hurts us much more than what is posted here. I don't bash Steve like many others. Actually talk with him from time to time. But he has done some questionable things that Paul would never even consider doing.

He's been in the business a while. If you're in the messing game of recruiting in any way, you are going to make some mistakes. Steve also has a responsibility to his paid subscribers. Let me also add, that he is one of the few to report publicly about this Ole Miss investigation. He is taking a lot of crap for it, but hasn't backed down. I hope he and his info get validated.

[Todd4State]

Steve is a hard worker. He runs a camp. He watches a ton of video. He goes and sees these kids play in person. He does Bulldog radio and he does the website. Steve is generally more knowledgeable than other website guys about the recruits. In the case of AJ, hopefully he is wrong, but it definitely gives reason for pause. Personally, I feel if AJ doesn't officially visit mid-week, he doesn't sign with us.

I don't question his work ethic, certainly don't question that he runs a camp(s) although I don't like it how he sometimes portrays those camps as the vehicle for "exposure" to players who college and JUCO coaches wouldn't know "who they were" if it weren't for the good ol' Sherriff, that he watches video, or has a show and a website.

I do question that he is more knowledgeable. Personally, I think Paul is more knowledgeable, but the difference is he knows when to shut the hell up and he doesn't try to make it look like he knows everything that is going on. And he doesn't hold personal vendettas against quality players to the point where he makes it look like the player isn't worth taking at MSU knowing that a lot of our fans are going to echo what he says.

I mean- he basically tried to run off Brandon Bryant because Bryant didn't tell him he was going on an OV to USM. And then without talking to any of our coaches stated that Bryant's scholarship had been pulled. And then he states that he was thankful because he really like JT Gray better and now he had a spot in the class- which our coaches somehow miraculously got both in the same class which I'm 99% sure was their real plan all along. And finally after the whole mess- he was never wrong the whole the time.

And then last year he basically bashed Kentavious Thomas I guess because he liked Alec Murphy better or something stupid like that. He was "right" but I didn't like how he handled it.

And now you have this with AJ. Every year it's something with at least one recruit where he makes it a pain in the ass for our coaches.

[Really Clark?]

He's been in the business a while. If you're in the messing game of recruiting in any way, you are going to make some mistakes. Steve also has a responsibility to his paid subscribers. Let me also add, that he is one of the few to report publicly about this Ole Miss investigation. He is taking a lot of crap for it, but hasn't backed down. I hope he and his info get validated.

Devinner wasn't just a mistake like missing where a player goes. That is totally different and as a MSU site they had no business dealing with him. Bryant deal wasn't just letting it out where he was, he posted erroneous info about a scholly being pulled. I'm sorry that goes beyond a simple missed call and it has a negative impact on us. Sorry I don't buy that at all. Now I agree he has up front and kept UNM stirred up over the investigations. Kudos for him and hope he keeps it up.

Disagree on him being the most knowledgable about where recruits go. Paul's track record for several years now has been better. Partially because he doesn't jump out to be first and waits until he has good info. Steve's self-service shows up there as well. I know he has a business but Paul is not lacking subscribers by any stretch. And he doesn't have to do like Steve to get it.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't question his work ethic, certainly don't question that he runs a camp(s) although I don't like it how he sometimes portrays those camps as the vehicle for "exposure" to players who college and JUCO coaches wouldn't know "who they were" if it weren't for the good ol' Sherriff, that he watches video, or has a show and a website.

I do question that he is more knowledgeable. Personally, I think Paul is more knowledgeable, but the difference is he knows when to shut the hell up and he doesn't try to make it look like he knows everything that is going on. And he doesn't hold personal vendettas against quality players to the point where he makes it look like the player isn't worth taking at MSU knowing that a lot of our fans are going to echo what he says.

I mean- he basically tried to run off Brandon Bryant because Bryant didn't tell him he was going on an OV to USM. And then without talking to any of our coaches stated that Bryant's scholarship had been pulled. And then he states that he was thankful because he really like JT Gray better and now he had a spot in the class- which our coaches somehow miraculously got both in the same class which I'm 99% sure was their real plan all along. And finally after the whole mess- he was never wrong the whole the time.

And then last year he basically bashed Kentavious Thomas I guess because he liked Alec Murphy better or something stupid like that. He was "right" but I didn't like how he handled it.

And now you have this with AJ. Every year it's something with at least one recruit where he makes it a pain in the ass for our coaches.

I think Steve only knows and is saying what AJ wants him to say. AJ wants to make a splash and wants to build up the hype.

You don't do that by being completely forthright about your intentions.

[Todd4State]

He's been in the business a while. If you're in the messing game of recruiting in any way, you are going to make some mistakes. Steve also has a responsibility to his paid subscribers. Let me also add, that he is one of the few to report publicly about this Ole Miss investigation. He is taking a lot of crap for it, but hasn't backed down. I hope he and his info get validated.

I can understand misses. I don't mind that- it comes with the territory. I do mind him hurting MSU at times to "get the scoop"- THAT'S the problem I have with him.

As far as the Ole Miss stuff goes- we all know he is right.

[Todd4State]

I think Steve only knows and is saying what AJ wants him to say. AJ wants to make a splash and wants to build up the hype.

You don't do that by being completely forthright about your intentions.

Or maybe he did something goofy to encourage AJ to commit now to "help the coaches" and Brown has cut him off and Rosebowl is interpreting that as "he won't talk to MSU media so he is going to Bama". Meanwhile Paul talks to AJ yesterday.

[ShotgunDawg]

Or maybe he did something goofy to encourage AJ to commit now to "help the coaches" and Brown has cut him off and Rosebowl is interpreting that as "he won't talk to MSU media so he is going to Bama". Meanwhile Paul talks to AJ yesterday.

Maybe. I agree though. Paul being the only one media member between 3 schools to be able to get an interview is telling to me. Hopefully...

[HancockCountyDog]

Listen to this interview by Steve on out of bounds, he certainly thinks AJ is Bama's to lose, and that is being generous.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=551&c=3041&f=5214383

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I just noticed that 247 that Raekwon Davis has been switched back to bama. Did I miss where he officially switched back?

[HancockCountyDog]

I just noticed that 247 that Raekwon Davis has been switched back to bama. Did I miss where he officially switched back?

Lets see if he shows up at Bama this weekend.

[maroonmania]

Listen to this interview by Steve on out of bounds, he certainly thinks AJ is Bama's to lose, and that is being generous.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=551&c=3041&f=5214383

Yes, I believe that's the interview where Steve gave the 80-85% number.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Yes, I believe that's the interview where Steve gave the 80-85% number.

Yep and he almost implied some complacency in recruiting the local guys. I hope he's just trying to drum up drama.

[GumpDawg]

Yep and he almost implied some complacency in recruiting the local guys. I hope he's just trying to drum up drama.

If that is the case something doesn't add up from rosebowls end. If we aren't recruiting the local guys hard then who the hell have we been recruiting since they are a 1/5th of the class and we have had half the class committed for a while? Just makes you figure the staff has a plan (we all hope).

[Bdawg]

Yep and he almost implied some complacency in recruiting the local guys. I hope he's just trying to drum up drama.

I doubt very seriously there is any complacency with the local guys.
One, they are in our backyard and Mullen said he wanted to put an emphasis on MS kids.
And two, they are all our highest rated players that we wanted from the beginning and now at the end.

[msstate7]

Sooo... Is farrar going to Oklahoma this weekend?

[Okrastar1]

Sooo... Is farrar going to Oklahoma this weekend?

Yuppp just announced he would, will be interesting to see if anything comes from our in-home with him, just hope we can hold onto him....

[ShotgunDawg]

Word is that Freeze may have slept over at Simmons' house last night.

[msstate7]

Yuppp just announced he would, will be interesting to see if anything comes from our in-home with him, just hope we can hold onto him....
So who is plan b wr? Hope we use this scholarship on dowdell

Yeah, I have no confidence we keep farrar now

[msstate7]

Is Kenny turnier gonna stick with Oregon state?

[HancockCountyDog]

Sooo... Is farrar going to Oklahoma this weekend?

I think we will find out Friday unless he comes out and says he is done.

Would be nice.

[Okrastar1]

So who is plan b wr? Hope we use this scholarship on dowdell

Yeah, I have no confidence we keep farrar now

I truly believe our in home will tell the tale, but I think his heart is in baseball as well and we are the better combo of both. Just worry about OK being closer to home, but we made him a priority and they played him like bama is knott... Keeping him lukewarm

[msstate7]

I truly believe our in home will tell the tale, but I think his heart is in baseball as well

Then Cohen needs to be in Farrar's living room too

[HancockCountyDog]

Then Cohen needs to be in Farrar's living room too

Im pretty sure Cohen would basically have this attitude:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_6dHYvtUDNqgAtLX-krJOgpn9YhiikG5XQKWKO-uSsZFYJ2TVMQ

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

I think we get Turnier if we give a committable offer. Surely we're waiting on all the other guys first I would think. And how in the hell do you spell committable? From what I've read, Cushenberry's mom wants him at State due to distance. We better figure something out with the local 4 if we really need to. Hopefully they're all locked in and just enjoying visits and we're planning for a signing day splash with them. Which is something I'm not sure we've ever had.

[msstate7]

Few interesting CBs...

Jc schurburtt -- knott to bama

Bout 5 different guys -- Derrick brown to auburn

Paul jones -- hankerson to state... I don't have a paid subscription to 247, but I'm guessing this means Paul thinks farrar gone

[HoopsDawg]

Few interesting CBs...

Jc schurburtt -- knott to bama

Bout 5 different guys -- Derrick brown to auburn

Paul jones -- hankerson to state... I don't have a paid subscription to 247, but I'm guessing this means Paul thinks farrar gone

George is getting upset!!

[Todd4State]

Then Cohen needs to be in Farrar's living room too

I'm not sure what the baseball recruiting rules are regarding this though. If he can visit I wholeheartedly agree.

[Todd4State]

I truly believe our in home will tell the tale, but I think his heart is in baseball as well and we are the better combo of both. Just worry about OK being closer to home, but we made him a priority and they played him like bama is knott... Keeping him lukewarm

I think his girlfriend goes to Oklahoma. That's what worries me more than anything.

[HoopsDawg]

Few interesting CBs...

Jc schurburtt -- knott to bama

Bout 5 different guys -- Derrick brown to auburn

Paul jones -- hankerson to state... I don't have a paid subscription to 247, but I'm guessing this means Paul thinks farrar gone

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

[maroonmania]

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

Well, this class doesn't matter, its only a bridge class. ***

[msstate7]

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

Either he's trolling us hard and gonna commit here after ratcheting up the suspense or he's just flat out telling us he isn't coming. If he doesn't sign with us, he's slapped us pretty good in the face by not even visiting.

Maybe I misread Paul's hankerson CB

[Covercorner2]

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

According to?

[GumpDawg]

According to?

Rosebowl

[RIdog]

Well, this class doesn't matter, its only a bridge class. ***


Question is bridge to where ?

[msstate7]

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

Sticking with the constanza theme...

"Yeah, I'm a great quitter. It's one of the few things I do well. I come from a long line of quitters. My father was a quitter, my grandfather was a quitter... I was raised to give up."

I'm bout ready to just give up on football recruiting '16 edition

[CadaverDawg]

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

http://usvsth3m.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tumblr_mkxr1uirZZ1rwd0doo1_400.gif

[state66]

Not sure if there is any current relevant info to be posted on the big 4 recruits but I sure would appreciate an update from some of the insiders on this board. Losing AJ would be a punch in the gut.

[msstate7]

Not sure if there is any current relevant info to be posted on the big 4 recruits but I sure would appreciate an update from some of the insiders on this board. Losing AJ would be a punch in the gut.
Quick, someone tell us lashley and Kobe are going to om or somewhere. Let's get our melt on**

[Bothrops]

Hankerson may be a take at WR since Farrar is probably Sooner bound. That juco from Cali isn't visiting either. Did Javon Wims from Hinds CC elect to stay at Georgia. Anyone know? Because right now it looks like it's going to be Couch, and one of Charles or Hankerson for WR's in this class.

[Really Clark?]

Mullen is going to Georgia tomorrow morning for his in home with Derrick Brown and then someone else afterwards, I believe.

[HancockCountyDog]

Mullen is going to Georgia tomorrow morning for his in home with Derrick Brown and then someone else afterwards. May be that clears up the issue with tomorrow.

I'm confused, if he is in GA, does that mean he won't be here for a mid week visit?

I'm going to wait and see if he actually doesn't visit before I worry.

[Really Clark?]

I'm confused, if he is in GA, does that mean he won't be here for a mid week visit?

I'm going to wait and see if he actually doesn't visit before I worry.

He is suppose to have his in home with Simmons on Thur so he would be close by then. And he still has an in home available for AJ.

[Really Clark?]

And Turnier isn't taking a midweek to Indiana if I remember correctly.

[Bdawg]

I'm confused, if he is in GA, does that mean he won't be here for a mid week visit?

I'm going to wait and see if he actually doesn't visit before I worry.

Thought I saw somewhere AJ was coming Wednesday or Thursday. If Mullen is in GA tomorrow, maybe AJ comes Thursday. Hope Mullen is not wasting his time in GA only to let one our locals get away. Or trying to think positively, maybe AJ told Mullen don't worry bout me and go get some more players for our class!!!

[Bdawg]

And Turnier isn't taking a midweek to Indiana if I remember correctly.

You are correct. He said that in a tweet.

[msstate7]

And Turnier isn't taking a midweek to Indiana if I remember correctly.

So what does this mean? We getting him?

[Bdawg]

So what does this mean? We getting him?
Think he still visits Oregon state this weekend if I got my recruits right

[Really Clark?]

So what does this mean? We getting him?

He is still scheduled for Oregon State and we are tied with them according to him. We have also made a big push for Moon, don't know if it will be enough though. Sent most or all of the coaches to Kobe tonight. Figure nearly everyone except maybe Gonzo (going to Farrar) for Simmons on Thur.

[HancockCountyDog]

He is suppose to have his in home with Simmons on Thur so he would be close by then. And he still has an in home available for AJ.

Yeah but AJ was scheduled to come in Wed/Thurs on an official . Is that actually off?

I can't get anyone on phone.

[Bothrops]

Pisses me off about Oklahoma coming in after Farrar. Saban pisses me off too. I hate that mother****er.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Thought I saw somewhere AJ was coming Wednesday or Thursday. If Mullen is in GA tomorrow, maybe AJ comes Thursday. Hope Mullen is not wasting his time in GA only to let one our locals get away. Or trying to think positively, maybe AJ told Mullen don't worry bout me and go get some more players for our class!!!.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Well it looks like recruiting may be the thing that does Mullen in.

[Really Clark?]

Yeah but AJ was scheduled to come in Wed/Thurs on an official . Is that actually off?

I can't get anyone on phone.

I can't confirm it either. But if so that happened late today. The only thing that was mentioned to me once was the day he was coming may change. But that wasn't concrete.

[Big4Dawg]

Not to be to pessimistic here, but to sum up the last few days:

-Zarrar appears to be bound to flip, after receiving an offer just a week ago, after we have been recruiting him all year.
-Brown canceling his OV. Everyone says he's just "enjoying the process" and "our coaches feel good about him". Then why would we even set up an OV in the middle of the week to begin with?
-D. Brown appears to be leaving the state of Georgia but going to Auburn. I would have understood him staying in-state but if he decided to leave, there is no reason we shouldn't be his first choice with BOTH of his parents attending State. What does Auburn offer that we can't? and I can't really think it's $. His family doesn't seem like they would do that so it has to be their coaches.
-Who knows w/ Simmons. But usually when OM writers feel good about him, and State people say "to close to call/no one knows", it usually means he's gone.
-Knott, a in-state kid, would rather be drug along by Bama and be 2nd choice, rather be a top player at State.
-Davis - who knows. but re-committed to bama and has an OV there this weekend.

In the end, it all could end up okay, but right now - things are looking bad, especially coming off a two-year span like we have. Idk if we just targeting the wrong players or what this year, or if we just can't recruit, but things aren't look up. On top of that, our in-state rival appears to be one of the go-to schools this year. They have 15 players rated higher on the composite than our 2nd best player. Yes - I am very jealous of OM's #Network and No - I don't believe anything will ever happen.

[chef dixon]

I just am not worried about AJ. No inside info or anything, but no kid is going to eliminate their hometown school before signing day by way of canceling an official visit. These events that transpire between now and signing day have very little useful information you can draw from. Just gotta wait til signing day.

[Big4Dawg]

I just am not worried about AJ. No inside info or anything, but no kid is going to eliminate their hometown school before signing day by way of canceling an official visit. These events that transpire between now and signing day have very little useful information you can draw from. Just gotta wait til signing day.

I'm beginning to worry. I'm interesting in looking at past Starkville/Oxford players and seeing for the ones that drug it out to the end, what happened.

They have two commits this cycle that shut it down before there senior year even started. The last Oxford player who waited until signing day to announce was the fat qb (forgot his name) and tried to go to LSU.

[sbcmortgageman]

Or maybe he did something goofy to encourage AJ to commit now to "help the coaches" and Brown has cut him off and Rosebowl is interpreting that as "he won't talk to MSU media so he is going to Bama". Meanwhile Paul talks to AJ yesterday.

Yea that's just not true at all and frankly is dumb. Steve had communication with AJ yesterday.

[mic]

Apparently Derrick brown is trending Auburn ...
I said before DB going to UGA is fine , but there is no reason we should lose this kid to anyone else ..

[HancockCountyDog]

Yea that's just not true at all and frankly is dumb. Steve had communication with AJ yesterday.

We will find out today/tomorrow who is right.

[CadaverDawg]

Most of the people I talk to are confident, so I'm going to try to remain confident myself. That being said, I've always had a tough time buying the old "Mullen is planning a big finish" bit, for 2 reasons....

1. I'm just not sure Mullen is capable of getting multiple high profile guys to play that game.

2. Why would you risk pushing your biggest recruits to go to Bama & Ole Miss for the sake of a big(ger) announcement? That would be like privately asking your wife to marry you, but sending her to Tom Brady, Channing Tatum, & Brad Pitt's houses before you tell your family in order to "build suspense". It's ****ing stupid.

I just really hope on signing day we Arent trying to talk ourselves into a 3 star WR & a 3 star DT being equal to AJ & Simmons bc we missed on them. That would be very disappointing.

[mic]

AJ- Bama
Simmons- UMiss
Derrick brown- Auburn

If this happens, CDM has a lot to answer too... And if this happens in year 8 , coming off 10-2, 8-4 regular season then is there any reason to believe it will get any better...

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

I am not gonna bash either dude because they all have their plus' and minuses when it comes to personality and recruiting and coverage. But I will say this. When it comes to kids and coaches from the Golden Triangle area, trust Paul. He has been there and knows those kids and coaches and has built that trust. Steve is still an outsider in that area and it will take him a few years. If he did talk to AJ there would be a huge story on the site. All those guys have egos. All of them. And if you get a high profile guy to talk to you there is always a story. Always

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

AJ- Bama
Simmons- UMiss
Derrick brown- Auburn

If this happens, CDM has a lot to answer too... And if this happens in year 8 , coming off 10-2, 8-4 regular season then is there any reason to believe it will get any better...

Who does he have to answer to? Serious question. Who?

Let's break this down. The fans? He has given them a winning product since he has been there. He always gets us to a bowl. From where we were before. He has down his job.

Boosters? Shouldn't you donate money to your school because you love your school. Not because you want to be able to call shots and get inside info. Here's a tip. When you get inside info. Keep your damn mouth shut and you will get more. And again the wins totals prove he is making your investment worth while.

The thing some fail to see. We can't recruit like ole miss. We can't. For this reason. After what happened with Mirando we are always under the microscope. Always. If freeze gets busted he will be too. But we got caught once. So he has to walk a fine line now

[ShotgunDawg]

AJ- Bama
Simmons- UMiss
Derrick brown- Auburn

If this happens, CDM has a lot to answer too... And if this happens in year 8 , coming off 10-2, 8-4 regular season then is there any reason to believe it will get any better...

Agree. No reason to believe we can ever take the next step under this staff and that's sad because they are so good in other areas.

That being said though, I've decided to not judge till signing day. Seems to be a waste of time to do it before.

[ShotgunDawg]

Who does he have to answer to? Serious question. Who?

Let's break this down. The fans? He has given them a winning product since he has been there. He always gets us to a bowl. From where we were before. He has down his job.

Boosters? Shouldn't you donate money to your school because you love your school. Not because you want to be able to call shots and get inside info. Here's a tip. When you get inside info. Keep your damn mouth shut and you will get more. And again the wins totals prove he is making your investment worth while.

The thing some fail to see. We can't recruit like ole miss. We can't. For this reason. After what happened with Mirando we are always under the microscope. Always. If freeze gets busted he will be too. But we got caught once. So he has to walk a fine line now

You make great points and I struggle with this.

However, in the end, is our goal to go to bowls or to Atlanta? If it's the latter, you can't do that with our current recruiting. Every year we talk about the adjustments the coaches should make in recruiting, but they don't seem to make them. I'm not sure what the answer is, but we don't appear to be getting closer to our goal.

[mic]

Who does he have to answer to? Serious question. Who?

Let's break this down. The fans? He has given them a winning product since he has been there. He always gets us to a bowl. From where we were before. He has down his job.

Boosters? Shouldn't you donate money to your school because you love your school. Not because you want to be able to call shots and get inside info. Here's a tip. When you get inside info. Keep your damn mouth shut and you will get more. And again the wins totals prove he is making your investment worth while.

The thing some fail to see. We can't recruit like ole miss. We can't. For this reason. After what happened with Mirando we are always under the microscope. Always. If freeze gets busted he will be too. But we got caught once. So he has to walk a fine line now

I never brought up one thing about UMiss recruiting... We all know how they roll and what is about to happen there..
But if we are going to praise CDM for what he has done here , then your damn right he should be held accountable for this as well..
If the next step is going to be taken then we have to close some of these guys...

A kid from your own back yard.. Possible the best WR to come out of the state in decades
A DL not 40 minutes away who could step in from day one and be a difference maker
A top 10 player in the country who's parents are MSU grads , if it's not UGA then there is no reason it shouldn't be use. If what all that was being said is true about the parents wanting him here..

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

I didn't say you mentioned ole miss. But here's my whole point Brother. This isn't a shot at you personally. At all so don't take it that way. But if the only people that are gonna expect answers and hold him accountable are us message board heroes, then Dan is sitting pretty regardless.

[defiantdog]

I think we all need to step back for a little while and realize there are more important things in life. An 18 year old's decision is his decision.... we don't have to like or respect it, but we do have to accept it. At least I know that even if we get the 44th ranked recruiting class in the nation, I'll be okay. At least my degree doesn't say OM on it.

[Shooter McGavin]

EDrecruiting and/or IYOK, with one week until signing day could you put on your prediction helmets and tell me your predictions on who we end up with in this class. I know the situation is fluid but with so much conflicting info out there I''m just curious where you guys think we stand with the remaining targets. I've been out of the loop lately so I'm playing catch up. If you'd rather not I understand. I'm sure you've both been asked this many times already. Anyway, I think the situations with Lashley(State), Farrar(OU lean), and Reese(No FSU offer, State lean) are pretty evident so I'll leave them off. Also Derrick Brown is a long shot and Hankerson is ours if we elect to take him. So we are left with:

Brown, Jones, Simmons, Knott, Davis, Cushenberry, Dowdell, Stallings/Turnier (either or would we take both). How many of them do you see in the Maroon and White. If I left anyone off please add them. Thanks.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

EDrecruiting and/or IYOK, with one week until signing day could you put on your prediction helmets and tell me your predictions on who we end up with in this class. I know the situation is fluid but with so much conflicting info out there I''m just curious where you guys think we stand with the remaining targets. I've been out of the loop lately so I'm playing catch up. If you'd rather not I understand. I'm sure you've both been asked this many times already. Anyway, I think the situations with Lashley(State), Farrar(OU lean), and Reese(No FSU offer, State lean) are pretty evident so I'll leave them off. Also Derrick Brown is a long shot and Hankerson is ours if we elect to take him. So we are left with:

Brown, Jones, Simmons, Knott, Davis, Cushenberry, Dowdell, Stallings/Turnier (either or would we take both). How many of them do you see in the Maroon and White. If I left anyone off please add them. Thanks.

Let's get through this weekend & I'll give 1 Monday after all OV have been made.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Same here

[msstate7]

So, no one wants to make predictions. How about this? Ifyouonlyknew, Edrecruiting, hoopsdawg, Hancockcountydog, and jumbo... You nervous about the big stars left on the board?

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Not at all

[Shooter McGavin]

Sounds good. Appreciate it gents

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So, no one wants to make predictions. How about this? Ifyouonlyknew, Edrecruiting, hoopsdawg, Hancockcountydog, and jumbo... You nervous about the big stars left on the board?

I feel 100x better on things than a lot of people on this board.