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Originally Posted by
NCMSTFAN
Kanye Clary entered the portal today.. which isn't a surprise
So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?
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Originally Posted by
civildawg
So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?
There's two schools of thought and I've heard both.
1. He was injured and he thought it was more serious than it was and didn't want to come back even when our doctors cleared him so he left the team.
2. He was injured and tried to come back too quickly, even though we told him not to, and reinjured it and left the team.
The only thing for certain is that he DID have an injury and he and the medical staff had a disagreement on the diagnosis.
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Originally Posted by
civildawg
So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?
Good question and I wish I knew the reasons. We definitely needed him this year too. I have a feeling we will see some other departures as well.
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Originally Posted by
NCMSTFAN
Good question and I wish I knew the reasons. We definitely needed him this year too. I have a feeling we will see some other departures as well.
I think we see 2-4 more. Could be as little as just Myers and Foumena and could be as many as those two, Kugel, Warren, and Murphy.
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I don't want kugel back honestly
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Originally Posted by
civildawg
So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?
He got hurt, realized during rehab that he was vital to team and tried to renegotiate his NIL package. That?s it.
Him deciding that changed the whole trajectory of our season. He was the difference maker. Jans rode him early in the season and he was the reason we clicked.
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Originally Posted by
BankerDog
Better hope our two NIL guys are ready to spend up to $6MM and the rest of our NIL can make up the other $2MM.
Because you?re asking to build the dang dream team.
Correct. I didn't sugar coat that this is a tall ask.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
civildawg
I don't want kugel back honestly
Why don't you want him back? I'm genuinely curious because the opinions on this kid are all over the place. At the end of the day he gave us exactly what we hoped for when we brought him in. 8-12 pts a game most nights and solid defense.
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Clary was not nearly as good as our fans think he was.
We act like it was the missing piece.
Totally wrong imo.
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
Clary was not nearly as good as our fans think he was.
We act like it was the missing piece.
Totally wrong imo.
He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.
Here's the elephant in the room. When your best player is a 5'10" scoring guard who is better at coming off screens on the catch than he is at scoring off the bounce, it's hard to build a team around that player.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.
You can't play 2 guys in the backcourt that are 6'0 and under. You also shouldn't have 2 ball dominant guards in the same backcourt. Clary was always a bad fit. Waste of NIL.
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Does Trayvon mark have another year? I would love a big guard that can defend and shoot
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Does Trayvon mark have another year? I would love a big guard that can defend and shoot
I'm 99% sure he doesn't have another year but even he does, he won't be coming here.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.
He was not making that big of a difference that I saw .
Also, everyone one here complains constantly that Hubbard is hurting us guarding the three. Adding another 5?10 guy doesn?t help that.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
You can't play 2 guys in the backcourt that are 6'0 and under. You also shouldn't have 2 ball dominant guards in the same backcourt. Clary was always a bad fit. Waste of NIL.
I guess 6'1" is ok since OM is in the sweet 16
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
Clary was not nearly as good as our fans think he was.
We act like it was the missing piece.
Totally wrong imo.
I mean we were clearly better with him than without. He wasn't Chris Paul or anything but we got worse when he bailed.
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Originally Posted by
Tater
3&D Wing #4 - Put Shawn Jones in the Brook Lopez 3 point camp and hope he hits half his open corner or wing 3s.
Brother, we didn't have anyone even hit 35% from 3, much less 50% from 3.
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
I mean we were clearly better with him than without. He wasn't Chris Paul or anything but we got worse when he bailed.
Disagree. We lost to Butler with him. Then when on a nice run. With Hubbard in the backcourt, the other guard needs to be elite defensively.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.
^^^^^^^
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