Allstate Insurance

[Tater]

I've always wondered if that was a PSYOP, like the coke/new coke deal, to bring stock prices down so execs could buy back at a low price.

You know what they say.... follow the money.

AB - InBev is not hurting in the slightest. Just like the millions of other brands that cancel culture has tried to claim. Cancel culture isn't real. Would hope that Cancelled34 would know better.

[Coach34]

You know what they say.... follow the money.

AB - InBev is not hurting in the slightest. Just like the millions of other brands that cancel culture has tried to claim. Cancel culture isn't real. Would hope that Cancelled34 would know better.

Since the Dylan Mulvaney fiasco, the S&P 500 is up 46% while BUD stock is down 26%.

If the boycotts have no effect, why have Target, WalMart, Bud, etc. backed away from DEI? Why did BUD fire the manager who promoted the Dylan Mulvaney matter?

As for the hypersensitivity charge, the BUD exec said they wanted to move to a new customer base and away from the "frat boy" image. It looks like the existing customer base gave Bud its wish.

I showed the revenues were down 1.4B and you said the operating costs were down 1.5B. I'd like to see the link on that. I provided a link showing they lost revenue because of it.

[msudawglb]

The "yes" culture has permiated the military and governmental agencies. I suspect the same for corp. America. Two main reasons, top leaders don't create a culture of wanting subordinates to speak up and "careerism."

Well, seeing as how I work for a government agency, and I have to sit through mandatory training yearly that encourages us to speak out with our thoughts toward decision making, I'll shoot down the quoted post above.

[Pancho]

I guess you aren't in the department a friend of mine was in then and I'm glad for you. He had hours of dei mandatory conversations and was literally finished with his work each week by lunch on tuesday. The others simply sat and looked at their phones from wed to friday and thought it was great. my friend eventually got another job and left the place. He said they department had 28 employees but could operate with 9 or 10 people if they were sane employees. I am now fully insured with Shelter now so all is well regardless if the allstate ceo is a woke loon or not.

[Johnson85]

Well, seeing as how I work for a government agency, and I have to sit through mandatory training yearly that encourages us to speak out with our thoughts toward decision making, I'll shoot down the quoted post above.

That means next to nothing. Employees are going to speak up or not based on the consequences of speaking out when it's not what their higherups want to hear.

Not saying the agency you work for doesn't actually want people to speak out. But having mandatory training on it is just as likely to be indicative of having a culture that doesn't reward speaking out (but having somebody that at least in theory wants that to cahnge, if not in practice) as it is to be indicative of a culture that actually reward, or at least not punish for, speaking out.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That means next to nothing. Employees are going to speak up or not based on the consequences of speaking out when it's not what their higherups want to hear.

Not saying the agency you work for doesn't actually want people to speak out. But having mandatory training on it is just as likely to be indicative of having a culture that doesn't reward speaking out (but having somebody that at least in theory wants that to cahnge, if not in practice) as it is to be indicative of a culture that actually reward, or at least not punish for, speaking out.

I will happily donate my services to be a hand raise guy for these companies. I just require a 500K donation the State Excellence Fund

[Johnson85]

Just chiming in with an extremely loud incorrect buzzer.

BUD the year and a half before the commercial had stock price fluctuation from $44 to $67 (with the peak week of $67 being right when the commercial was released, which had more to do with hedge funds making money against the general public). BUD the year and a half after the commercial has had price fluctuation between $49 and $68 with the peak week being May this year though it did scrape $66 right during the start of NFL playoffs last season.

AB InBev owns more than Bud Light. It was hilarious to see people boycott Bud Light by going to Michelob, Miller, Modelo, etc. People have no idea who actually owns which beer anymore and the point is it's gotten so murky that AB owned all 3 of those at different points (yes i know they sold miller to Coors - but do you? does the general public know?).

Why would the fact that AB InBev owned any of those brands in the past matter for their bottom line when people switch from beers they own now?

Boycotting AB would take someone just boycotting beer altogether to be safe which obviously wasn't happening. Bud Light was back in the hands of people spouting to boycott it less than 6 months later (Kid Rock being the most notable).

Not really. Pretty much any miller coors beer plus Modello in the US is safe. If you're drinking a lot of Budlight, you're probably not having to keep track of which "craft" labels they own. Even if you drink both, if you cut out the ones easily identifiable, that still costs ABInBev revenue.

And I think a "soft" boycott is still pretty effective. I avoid buying Nike when I have a somewhat similar alternative. They're just annoying as shit and they make sports worse by injecting politics in it and giving ass hats like the spoiled p*ssy whipped QB a microphone, but I don't make my life worse over it. If it's meaningfully better for me, I'll buy it. If it's not, I won't. If a significant number of people do that, it makes it painful for companies to be ass hats. You genearlly don't want to be in a position where you lose all the close calls as a company, particularly in retail. Same with Target. If there is something I need at Target that I can't get somewhere else easily, I'll get it. But generally, Walmart is slightly less obnoxious with the woke stuff (and significantly less obnoxious on the child sexualization stuff and probably most importantly, inviting men into women's bathrooms), that Target only gets leftovers. Not a big deal, but again, when you are in a space as competitive as retail, small things can have a pretty sizeable impact. There's lots of things that have probably caused Walmart's outperformance of Target's stock over the past year, and Target's insistence on annoying a portion of its customer base is probalby only a small part of it. But if your stock is down in a year where your biggest competitor is up 81% and the stock market in general is up over 20%, do you really want to be antagonizing any of your customers?

[Coach34]

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/bud


Down 25% from just 1 year ago- there is no spinning it- that hurts and the boycott did indeed work

[Pancho]

Fat Tire is my beer

[Tater]

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/bud


Down 25% from just 1 year ago- there is no spinning it- that hurts and the boycott did indeed work

Was 1 year ago when the boycotts started?

Look this is the last post you get without me sending you a consultant fee for stock advice. You're so far out of your depth. You thought you were wrong about Florida's big man... buddy you're more lost here.

Here's the free advice: never download Robinhood or any other day trading app. Just find a good 3-4% savings account and stick to that. Even a 401k is above your head.

[Tater]

Why would the fact that AB InBev owned any of those brands in the past matter for their bottom line when people switch from beers they own now?



Not really. Pretty much any miller coors beer plus Modello in the US is safe. If you're drinking a lot of Budlight, you're probably not having to keep track of which "craft" labels they own. Even if you drink both, if you cut out the ones easily identifiable, that still costs ABInBev revenue.

And I think a "soft" boycott is still pretty effective. I avoid buying Nike when I have a somewhat similar alternative. They're just annoying as shit and they make sports worse by injecting politics in it and giving ass hats like the spoiled p*ssy whipped QB a microphone, but I don't make my life worse over it. If it's meaningfully better for me, I'll buy it. If it's not, I won't. If a significant number of people do that, it makes it painful for companies to be ass hats. You genearlly don't want to be in a position where you lose all the close calls as a company, particularly in retail. Same with Target. If there is something I need at Target that I can't get somewhere else easily, I'll get it. But generally, Walmart is slightly less obnoxious with the woke stuff (and significantly less obnoxious on the child sexualization stuff and probably most importantly, inviting men into women's bathrooms), that Target only gets leftovers. Not a big deal, but again, when you are in a space as competitive as retail, small things can have a pretty sizeable impact. There's lots of things that have probably caused Walmart's outperformance of Target's stock over the past year, and Target's insistence on annoying a portion of its customer base is probalby only a small part of it. But if your stock is down in a year where your biggest competitor is up 81% and the stock market in general is up over 20%, do you really want to be antagonizing any of your customers?

AB InBev owns Grupo Modello which imports Corona, Modelo, and more. I didn't read more because I sensed it being an "about me" diatribe trying to expand your shopping habits at a large scale. Mississippi State Message Board posters are not the average demo. And even you were wrong about "Modelo" being a "safe" beer to purchase.

AB InBev is not at all concerned about the Cancel Culture mob boycotting. Just like the following failed boycotts:

Coors/Miller
Target
ABC
Amazon
American Airlines
Apple
AT&T
Barbie
BofA
BBC (the british news channel)
Campbell's
Chick-fil-a (it's doubly funny both sides of the political spectrum have failed at cancelling them. Just a well oiled machine)
Carhartt
Cisco
Citi
CNN
Coke
Cracker Barrel
Delta
Disney
Fox
Ford
HBO
Enterprise
Hertz
Home Depot
JP morgan Chase
Kellogg's (lol at how popular the Pop Tart bowl is)
MLB
NASCAR
NBA
NBC
NFL
North Face
Oreo
Paypal
Patagonia
PBS
Starbucks
The Super Bowl
Tyson Foods
Nike
Under Armour
United Airlines (Spirt or bust for ya I guess)
Univision
UPS
CBS
Walmart
Wells Fargo
Yeti

http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Wiki/...%22canceled%22

That's just some of this one list with sources. It's exhausting. I'm done with this thread though. You're welcome for giving you a consolidated list to avoid. Have fun finding something that isn't owned by that group in some fashion.

[Coach34]

Was 1 year ago when the boycotts started?

Look this is the last post you get without me sending you a consultant fee for stock advice. You're so far out of your depth. You thought you were wrong about Florida's big man... buddy you're more lost here.

Here's the free advice: never download Robinhood or any other day trading app. Just find a good 3-4% savings account and stick to that. Even a 401k is above your head.

The stock was around $64 when the Trans link got rolled out in March. It's way down now in spite of the market doing well. No amount of your gibberish changes that. You are being a ****ing baffoon.

[Tater]

The stock was around $64 when the Trans link got rolled out in March. It's way down now in spite of the market doing well. No amount of your gibberish changes that. You are being a ****ing baffoon.

You need to Zelle $25 to the MSU NIL fund to unlock the contents of this response

[Coach34]

You need to Zelle $25 to the MSU NIL fund to unlock the contents of this response

Translated:

Coach and the other posters have blown my ass up on the Bud portion of the stock and how it cost people jobs and money for doing that dumb trans shit. So I will continue to try and make it about the total corporation and other shit so I can avoid the fact they got me

We are still waiting on you to show us where BUD offset the loss in production costs

[Duckdog]

Translated:

Coach and the other posters have blown my ass up on the Bud portion of the stock and how it cost people jobs and money for doing that dumb trans shit. So I will continue to try and make it about the total corporation and other shit so I can avoid the fact they got me

We are still waiting on you to show us where BUD offset the loss in production costs

exactly

[Pancho]

wonder what crytic response tater man is working on? I'm sure it'll knock us all back***********

[Johnson85]

AB InBev owns Grupo Modello which imports Corona, Modelo, and more. I didn't read more because I sensed it being an "about me" diatribe trying to expand your shopping habits at a large scale. Mississippi State Message Board posters are not the average demo. And even you were wrong about "Modelo" being a "safe" beer to purchase.

AB InBev is not at all concerned about the Cancel Culture mob boycotting. Just like the following failed boycotts:

Coors/Miller
Target
ABC
Amazon
American Airlines
Apple
AT&T
Barbie
BofA
BBC (the british news channel)
Campbell's
Chick-fil-a (it's doubly funny both sides of the political spectrum have failed at cancelling them. Just a well oiled machine)
Carhartt
Cisco
Citi
CNN
Coke
Cracker Barrel
Delta
Disney
Fox
Ford
HBO
Enterprise
Hertz
Home Depot
JP morgan Chase
Kellogg's (lol at how popular the Pop Tart bowl is)
MLB
NASCAR
NBA
NBC
NFL
North Face
Oreo
Paypal
Patagonia
PBS
Starbucks
The Super Bowl
Tyson Foods
Nike
Under Armour
United Airlines (Spirt or bust for ya I guess)
Univision
UPS
CBS
Walmart
Wells Fargo
Yeti

http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Wiki/...%22canceled%22

That's just some of this one list with sources. It's exhausting. I'm done with this thread though. You're welcome for giving you a consolidated list to avoid. Have fun finding something that isn't owned by that group in some fashion.

You should never assume you are right. Just giving you the heads up. If you go back and read the post you are replying to, you would see the phrase "plus Modello in the US is safe." If you were the type of person that should ever assume you are right, you would have questioned that phrase "in the US" and wondered whether it's there for a reason.

With respect to that list, why would I want a list of companies other people have allegedly tried to boycott?

[Tater]

Translated:

Coach and the other posters have blown my ass up on the Bud portion of the stock and how it cost people jobs and money for doing that dumb trans shit. So I will continue to try and make it about the total corporation and other shit so I can avoid the fact they got me

We are still waiting on you to show us where BUD offset the loss in production costs

Translated. You're an idiot who points to two dates over a year and a half apart and ignores the stock movement all before it (it was pumped right before the Mulvaney incident and was overvalued - hedgies knew what they were doing) and after it. Stock has been relatively flat over the last 3 years because there is no way to capture more of the market than they have without brushing up against anti-trust / monopoly busting. Why else do you think they had to sell Miller to Coors?

To put this in terms you might understand. You're speaking with the knowledge of a 12 year old who just learned that on Madden that crossing drags beats straight man coverage everytime. And you're saying you've confidently figured out football to a 40 year old with years of coaching experience. You're so out of your depth.

How do you wake up every day and think you're an expert in every area of life when you're not even more than a novice in your own field.

[Tater]

You should never assume you are right. Just giving you the heads up. If you go back and read the post you are replying to, you would see the phrase "plus Modello in the US is safe." If you were the type of person that should ever assume you are right, you would have questioned that phrase "in the US" and wondered whether it's there for a reason.

With respect to that list, why would I want a list of companies other people have allegedly tried to boycott?

Constellation Brands sells Modelo in the US, but who sells Modelo from Mexico to Constellation Brands? Do you understand how stupid that sounds as you trying to have a gotcha moment right?

[Johnson85]

Constellation Brands sells Modelo in the US, but who sells Modelo from Mexico to Constellation Brands? Do you understand how stupid that sounds as you trying to have a gotcha moment right?

Constellation picked up two breweries in the deal also and produces its own modelo. No clue if they can or do supplement their production with purchases from AbInbev. Obviously neither company would want that widely known if they do as it would hurt Modelo sales and cost ABInbev wholesale business.

But even if Constellation bought Modelo wholesale from ABInBev, it's not like it's not still effective to move from Budlight to Modelo in the US. They are in the retail business (sort of; I guess it's still whole sale for a lot of the US, but it's another level of the supply chain) for a reason and they want that side of the revenue also if they have invested in building out that capacity.