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01-26-2020, 09:19 AM
#101

Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
Why is it some of our fans can't just sit back and enjoy the complete 180 we've made in the last 3 weeks? We went from complete apathy, not wanting the 2020 season to come, no one wanting to go to the games, calling for Joe to be fired immediately & NOW we've hired a sitting P5 HC who has 139 career wins/is a national treasure and darling/one of the greatest and most proven offensive minds in all of CFB, we have tons of momentum going into 2020 now, hired a solid DC from a P5 school who's got tons of upside, we have lost ONLY 1 signee and Dawgfan77 says it was encouraged, we've got a proven grad transfer QB heavily leaning towards us and OV'ing this weekend who threw for 3,600 yds with 29 TD's as a junior and was rated the #45 NFL prospect overall going into 2019 season, and now the fanbase is completely united (well, most people who aren't hell-bent on trying to spread pessimism) and we're about to sell TONS of season tickets when we previously would have lost tons and we will have a HUGE crowd at the Spring game simply because everyone is so damn excited to see how the Pirate's offense looks with SEC athletes.
All to say, if you can't just be excited and quit trying to spread pessimistic BS when we've done unprecedented things at MSU this month and things are looking up for the program when it looked doomed a month ago, then get help. #SwingYourSword #HailDamnState
Thought Hemingway died.
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01-26-2020, 09:22 AM
#102

Originally Posted by
msstate7
And even if it were, Costello is a Stanford grad, so I'm sure he can learn quickly
Don't know....he didn't get in Stanford's graduate program.
Maybe we can get him in bonehead chemistry.
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01-26-2020, 09:23 AM
#103

Originally Posted by
Mjoelner34
Here is the diagram of one of Joe's plays with the pre-snap read, 1st in-play read and 2nd in-play read all built in and disguised as an automotive harness so the opposition wouldn't catch on.

And in the end....it was a bad fuse.
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01-26-2020, 10:44 AM
#104

Originally Posted by
dawgoneyall
And in the end....it was a bad fuse.
And it caused the car to ignite and burn up ****
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01-26-2020, 11:24 AM
#105
At the end of the day I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4 in year one. I think we have the brightest offensive mind in football with a legit draft pick at quarterback (assuming Costello commits). We have a unique DC that I expect to make us formidable this year. Extremely favorable sec schedule. The receivers are the biggest question but Mike has been able to make it worth with much less talented receivers than we have so I expect us to be much better at that spot.
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01-26-2020, 11:30 AM
#106
We should hear something positive in the next few hours.
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01-26-2020, 11:46 AM
#107
Junior Member
I'm okay with our qb situation either way. I really want a few stud wr's allot more than another qb, although if we can get an amazing qb that's good too.
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01-26-2020, 12:06 PM
#108

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
We should hear something positive in the next few hours.
Costello expected to put something out pretty soon?
#SwingUrSword #HailDamnState
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01-26-2020, 12:24 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
dawgoneyall
Don't know....he didn't get in Stanford's graduate program.
Maybe we can get him in bonehead chemistry.
We've got a great online course for that I hear.
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01-26-2020, 02:38 PM
#110

Originally Posted by
Jarius
At the end of the day I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4 in year one. I think we have the brightest offensive mind in football with a legit draft pick at quarterback (assuming Costello commits). We have a unique DC that I expect to make us formidable this year. Extremely favorable sec schedule. The receivers are the biggest question but Mike has been able to make it worth with much less talented receivers than we have so I expect us to be much better at that spot.
Expect? That's a bit strong. If EVERYTHING goes right, 8 max. Expect 6 or so, and and anything better is gravy.
Our defense sucked this year. And we lost our best player at every level. Ouch.
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01-26-2020, 03:01 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
PMDawg
Expect? That's a bit strong. If EVERYTHING goes right, 8 max. Expect 6 or so, and and anything better is gravy.
Our defense sucked this year. And we lost our best player at every level. Ouch.
No, I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4. We would have went 8-4 this year with any competent coaching staff in the country. We are losing very few people on defense that played a great deal of snaps last year. Dantzler was hurt a lot or just decided not to play in key games. Willie did not play very much at all. Autry did not play much at all. The biggest loss is certainly Rivers, but that position continually got better throughout the year as players grew up. We are bringing a lot back on the DL and we also have some big time juco players coming in. The defense should be a little bit better. We have recruited really well on that side of the ball especially and return a good bit of young guys that got a ton of reps and had some really big time guys redshirt. We will 100% be better offensively by a large margin. I expect a team basically as talented as last year but with much better offensive coaching and much more discipline to go along with a very favorable schedule. We can go 8-4 and not beat anyone worth a crap. We could also go 6-6 if we have some bad luck, but that should be the floor based on Leach's entire career. He's only had 2 seasons worse than 6-6 and those were at the worst P5 school in the country within his first 3 years on the job. He's inheriting a team that has consensus top 25 talent that plays a schedule similar to Washington state's except for about 3 games. He's also bringing in a draft pick at qb and returning the SEC's leading rusher. 6 wins is the floor for Mike Leach teams with anywhere near that type of talent.
Last edited by Jarius; 01-26-2020 at 03:11 PM.
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01-26-2020, 03:28 PM
#112
At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.
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01-26-2020, 03:30 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.
Some of that might be cause he coached them to become good receivers. Not saying we have great receivers but Guidry had talent. If he would've/could've just used it.
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01-26-2020, 03:38 PM
#114
Remember our offense got worse and worse as the season progressed last year.
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01-26-2020, 03:41 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
Jarius
No, I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4. We would have went 8-4 this year with any competent coaching staff in the country. We are losing very few people on defense that played a great deal of snaps last year. Dantzler was hurt a lot or just decided not to play in key games. Willie did not play very much at all. Autry did not play much at all. The biggest loss is certainly Rivers, but that position continually got better throughout the year as players grew up. We are bringing a lot back on the DL and we also have some big time juco players coming in. The defense should be a little bit better. We have recruited really well on that side of the ball especially and return a good bit of young guys that got a ton of reps and had some really big time guys redshirt. We will 100% be better offensively by a large margin. I expect a team basically as talented as last year but with much better offensive coaching and much more discipline to go along with a very favorable schedule. We can go 8-4 and not beat anyone worth a crap. We could also go 6-6 if we have some bad luck, but that should be the floor based on Leach's entire career. He's only had 2 seasons worse than 6-6 and those were at the worst P5 school in the country within his first 3 years on the job. He's inheriting a team that has consensus top 25 talent that plays a schedule similar to Washington state's except for about 3 games. He's also bringing in a draft pick at qb and returning the SEC's leading rusher. 6 wins is the floor for Mike Leach teams with anywhere near that type of talent.
I agree with all of this.
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01-26-2020, 03:43 PM
#116

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Remember our offense got worse and worse as the season progressed last year.
If I recall we bottomed out against LSU and Moorhead threatened to open up the QB competition and then our offense improved other than getting shut out against Alabama. And then we reverted back to pre-Texas A&M in the Outback Bowl.
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01-26-2020, 03:44 PM
#117

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.
Other than Crabtree and Welker it's not like he has exactly been blessed with Rice and Moss throughout his career. And not sure about Crabtree but Welker was definitely not highly recruited.
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01-26-2020, 03:54 PM
#118

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.
If Mike thought that were true he would be in the transfer portal bringing in wide receivers and he is not. He actually complimented our returning wide receivers the other day and at the same time did not compliment our returning quarterbacks (he did not dig them but certainly skipped over the opportunity to praise them). A lot of our problems on offense stemmed from our hard headed head coach IMO.
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01-26-2020, 03:55 PM
#119

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Other than Crabtree and Welker it's not like he has exactly been blessed with Rice and Moss throughout his career. And not sure about Crabtree but Welker was definitely not highly recruited.
Welker was a bad ass.
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01-26-2020, 04:03 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
Jarius
No, I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4. We would have went 8-4 this year with any competent coaching staff in the country. We are losing very few people on defense that played a great deal of snaps last year. Dantzler was hurt a lot or just decided not to play in key games. Willie did not play very much at all. Autry did not play much at all. The biggest loss is certainly Rivers, but that position continually got better throughout the year as players grew up. We are bringing a lot back on the DL and we also have some big time juco players coming in. The defense should be a little bit better. We have recruited really well on that side of the ball especially and return a good bit of young guys that got a ton of reps and had some really big time guys redshirt. We will 100% be better offensively by a large margin. I expect a team basically as talented as last year but with much better offensive coaching and much more discipline to go along with a very favorable schedule. We can go 8-4 and not beat anyone worth a crap. We could also go 6-6 if we have some bad luck, but that should be the floor based on Leach's entire career. He's only had 2 seasons worse than 6-6 and those were at the worst P5 school in the country within his first 3 years on the job. He's inheriting a team that has consensus top 25 talent that plays a schedule similar to Washington state's except for about 3 games. He's also bringing in a draft pick at qb and returning the SEC's leading rusher. 6 wins is the floor for Mike Leach teams with anywhere near that type of talent.
Oh I believe you expect it. I just know you're wrong 99% of the time. Just trying to help you out.
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