We getting all excited about the QB transfer

[Tbonewannabe]

If the QB situation implodes....so be it. I wish KT would take a shot at a WR role. He could always serve as an emergency qb if needed. But if he is dead set on being a qb I imagine he transfers after Spring ball. Unless he suddenly wakes up and thrives as a qb under Leach.....which I doubt.

KT is athletic enough for a shot at NFL WR. Not sure if he has the talent to be a NFL QB or Moorhead screwed us a lot worse than we could have imagined. I hope he gives it a shot because I think he could do well.

[Dawgfan77]

Assuming we get him, I think Costello will be very successful here. Top 10 pick though, not buying that at all

You say that and I respect your opinion but here are his JR stats in a pro style system. And he was second team all pac 12
269/413 65.1 3540yds 29TDs 11 ints

[msstate7]

You say that and I respect your opinion but here are his JR stats in a pro style system. And he was second team all pac 12
269/413 65.1 3540yds 29TDs 11 ints

If he were in that realm, I think he'd turn pro this season. Anything could happen (burrow), but highly unlikely imo

ETA... just having a great year here and getting drafted would be fantastic for us and him

[TheLostDawg]

Wasn't it Jameon Lewis that was a QB turned wr. Couldn't KT do this and skyrocket up the draft if it turns out he can catch and makes a lot of athletic plays with with hands, arms, and ability running.

[Coursesuper]

You say that and I respect your opinion but here are his JR stats in a pro style system. And he was second team all pac 12
269/413 65.1 3540yds 29TDs 11 ints

This, we have way to many folks here going over the top out of their gourd right now. As a whole we need to calm down and just let his happen, if its good or better than expected that's great, but this bunch has miles to go before they get there.

[RezDog7]

OP trying desperately to "be right" on this being a bad hire it appears...
IDGAF about anyone else since this is Will Rogers team 2021-2024

Unfortunately the OP poster only has one agenda, post negative shit to keep everyone stirred up.

He bitched about Stansburry until he was fired.
Bitched about Mullen until he left.
Bitched about Moorhead until he was fired.
Already started several threads bitching about Leach.
Maybe he just likes to bitch.

[MrKotter]

Unfortunately the OP poster only has one agenda, post negative shit to keep everyone stirred up.

He bitched about Stansburry until he was fired.
Bitched about Mullen until he left.
Bitched about Moorhead until he was fired.
Already started several threads bitching about Leach.
Maybe he just likes to bitch.

He just needs attention.

[Cooterpoot]

KT isn't a WR. He's going to transfer out and we can then quit discussing him finally. Had Mullen stayed, maybe QB would've worked for him. He'll do well at Nichols or McNeese or a directional LA school. Nothing wrong with that.

[HailStateSZN19]

Why is it some of our fans can't just sit back and enjoy the complete 180 we've made in the last 3 weeks? We went from complete apathy, not wanting the 2020 season to come, no one wanting to go to the games, calling for Joe to be fired immediately & NOW we've hired a sitting P5 HC who has 139 career wins/is a national treasure and darling/one of the greatest and most proven offensive minds in all of CFB, we have tons of momentum going into 2020 now, hired a solid DC from a P5 school who's got tons of upside, we have lost ONLY 1 signee and Dawgfan77 says it was encouraged, we've got a proven grad transfer QB heavily leaning towards us and OV'ing this weekend who threw for 3,600 yds with 29 TD's as a junior and was rated the #45 NFL prospect overall going into 2019 season, and now the fanbase is completely united (well, most people who aren't hell-bent on trying to spread pessimism) and we're about to sell TONS of season tickets when we previously would have lost tons and we will have a HUGE crowd at the Spring game simply because everyone is so damn excited to see how the Pirate's offense looks with SEC athletes.

All to say, if you can't just be excited and quit trying to spread pessimistic BS when we've done unprecedented things at MSU this month and things are looking up for the program when it looked doomed a month ago, then get help. #SwingYourSword #HailDamnState

[ShotgunDawg]

My two cents, I've seen Rogers play, I don't think he is physically ready to play as a freshman. Yes he can spin the ball and has a good arm but physically he needs another year in the weight room.
Shrader, talented yes, will he leave, iffy, there is no reason why he couldn't be ok in Leach's offense. Have not a clue what is going on with him except he is young and obviously hasn't grown into a "man" yet. Maybe Leach is his answer, I hope so.
Mayden, have not a clue what is going on.

Now, some of you guys need to relax on portal QB's "dying" to play for Leach. Yes there are some available but again it has to be the right fit for both QB and Leach, plus is StarkVegas the place they want to live for a year. We should all remember the Tommy Stevens that backfired, oh it can back fire again or it can be a plus. Just IFFY.

Me, I think it's gonna be a big rebuilding year on everything in our program. I see good things and I see some tough times next year. Playing in the Sec West is tough, I remember hearing JWS saying Starkville/Msu football is not a easy place to win.

Somebody's wife yelled at them this morning and they spilled their coffee on their crotch on the way to work.

[HancockCountyDog]

KT isn't a WR. He's going to transfer out and we can then quit discussing him finally. Had Mullen stayed, maybe QB would've worked for him. He'll do well at Nichols or McNeese or a directional LA school. Nothing wrong with that.

I'll be interested to see what happens with him. He certainly doesn't fit this offense, but I'm not sure what his options are that he likes. He wanted to leave in the summer/early fall and he really didn't have any options.

Its easy to talk about transferring to a McNeese or Nichols, but boy the culture shock in how you are treated by the schools is shocking. Being on a SEC roster comes with significant perks from types of food to training staff and facilities. My guess is he leaves, but I'm not sure he is eager to. Heck - he hasn't left this offseason when every objective fan/coach would tell him his playing days at MSU are done.

As for Mayden, I'm guessing he gives spring a shot. If Costello comes my guess is that he leaves, which makes sense. We aren't running a RPO offense. I think we roll with Costello/Shrader/Rogers next year which is great QB depth for a Leach offense.

[RiverCityDawg]

If Shrader leaves because he doesn't like the off-season workout program and/or he doesn't get to start as a true sophomore (even though the path is there to redshirt and start the next year) then do we really care if he leaves?

We've had two coaches in a row now who seem to not care if KT stays or goes, so it's hard for me to be worried about this.

Where's Mayden going to go? Texas A&M Corpus Christi?

You don't NOT go get a guy much better than everyone else in your room because you're afraid some of them will be upset or leave, particularly when you don't seem to believe in those guys anyway.

This whole deal is a shakeup, so of course things could be shaken up.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

ok. I hear ya.

What does KT do? Does he transfer or move to WR
Gotta think Mayden will start looking at this point. We keep bringing people in to bury him on the chart
Shrader? This guy is not known for hard work in the 1st place and may bolt because of the new workout program- but bringing in someone to replace him could easily make him look round.

The Pirate will absolutely fix the QB position- but short term it could implode. Just more entertainment in 2020

Who cares if it implodes? Are we more concerned about "hurtin somebody's lil feelins" OR what's best for the team and winning football games?

[Tbonewannabe]

I'll be interested to see what happens with him. He certainly doesn't fit this offense, but I'm not sure what his options are that he likes. He wanted to leave in the summer/early fall and he really didn't have any options.

Its easy to talk about transferring to a McNeese or Nichols, but boy the culture shock in how you are treated by the schools is shocking. Being on a SEC roster comes with significant perks from types of food to training staff and facilities. My guess is he leaves, but I'm not sure he is eager to. Heck - he hasn't left this offseason when every objective fan/coach would tell him his playing days at MSU are done.

As for Mayden, I'm guessing he gives spring a shot. If Costello comes my guess is that he leaves, which makes sense. We aren't running a RPO offense. I think we roll with Costello/Shrader/Rogers next year which is great QB depth for a Leach offense.

The thing is, the chance at playing in the NFL is about zero as a QB at McNeese unless Moorhead and Leach don't recognize NFL talent. KT has looked pretty good running with the ball and he is athletic. He might like the idea of giving WR a shot in a Leach offense if it gives him a chance at the NFL otherwise he basically has zero chance. He also then stays at a SEC school with all of his friends. Not everyone that plays QB is like Tebow, QB or bust. A lot of guys would have taken the chance playing TE or FB in a NFL offense if the other choice is not playing at all.

[Tbonewannabe]

If Shrader leaves because he doesn't like the off-season workout program and/or he doesn't get to start as a true sophomore (even though the path is there to redshirt and start the next year) then do we really care if he leaves?

We've had two coaches in a row now who seem to not care if KT stays or goes, so it's hard for me to be worried about this.

Where's Mayden going to go? Texas A&M Corpus Christi?

You don't NOT go get a guy much better than everyone else in your room because you're afraid some of them will be upset or leave, particularly when you don't seem to believe in those guys anyway.

This whole deal is a shakeup, so of course things could be shaken up.

If you are losing guys to McNeese or some other low level team, are those guys that would have really contributed at a high level anyway? It would be different if you are a team like Wake Forest that just lost their QB to UGA or UGA losing a Oline to UT.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

[Tbonewannabe]

Bob Sagat's line is pure magic.

[QuadrupleOption]

I think y'all may be jumping the gun a bit. Leach said in his interview with Bo Bounds yesterday that the staff won't know what they have at the QB position until they get into Spring practice and have a chance to evaluate. They only QBs they have any film on at all are Shrader and KT, both of which ran different offenses.

I don't think KT is accurate enough to make the cut at QB here, and he may end up transferring out anyway. Shrader seemed pretty accurate last season but Leach may want to redshirt him, who knows?

But in any event, they'll get a shot this Spring. I don't think Leach has already made his mind up and put these guys out to pasture. I just don't think that's the way he's wired.

[Irondawg]

Yep even we get a grad transfer QB I don't think it the kind of guy who would automatically start him. I think he'll throw them all out there and play who he likes best, period.

Now I understand you go get a grad transfer QB only if you think he's going to be better than what you have. He's played Costello and while he might have heard some things about GS and watched some film he's never seen him throw live or seen how well he'll be at reading defenses.

[Johnson85]

im Not going to worry about the QB spot. Leach will find QBs. The ones on the roster have to work to earn it. KT is done here no matter what.

Are you basing that on inside knowledge or just on the assumption that he doesn't fit the offense?

I don't think he can be QB, but we have a lot of opportunity for a WR that can catch the ball. If KT is athletic enough for WR, it doesn't seem crazy to me that he would try WR rather than transfer to G5 or FCS.