We getting all excited about the QB transfer

[Cooterpoot]

Anyone not wanting Costello is a fool. We're going to recruit a shit ton of QBs. May the best player win out every year.

[preachermatt83]

Anyone not wanting Costello is a fool. We're going to recruit a shit ton of QBs. May the best player win out every year.

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[HailStateSZN19]

Anyone not wanting Costello is a fool. We're going to recruit a shit ton of QBs. May the best player win out every year.

Cooter, how do you feel about WR recruiting going forward? The same level as QB recruiting? I'm hoping that with the level of QB's we're likely to bring in, it creates a domino effect and we pull some very talented WR's and get that position group as a strength.

Already sounds that way with Brevard from Southaven saying the Leach hire has peaked his interest in MSU now.

[nashLA]

Already sounds that way with Brevard from Southaven saying the Leach hire has peaked his interest in MSU now.

"piqued": stimulate (interest or curiosity). "you have piqued my curiosity about the man"

"peaked": adjective: having a peak. "a peaked cap"

[TheLostDawg]

If Shrader leaves because he doesn't like the off-season workout program and/or he doesn't get to start as a true sophomore (even though the path is there to redshirt and start the next year) then do we really care if he leaves?

We've had two coaches in a row now who seem to not care if KT stays or goes, so it's hard for me to be worried about this.

Where's Mayden going to go? Texas A&M Corpus Christi?

You don't NOT go get a guy much better than everyone else in your room because you're afraid some of them will be upset or leave, particularly when you don't seem to believe in those guys anyway.

This whole deal is a shakeup, so of course things could be shaken up.

Also send a message to bust your butt or go somewhere else.

[msstate7]

With his skills I doubt it will matter. Leach's offense isn't a quadratic equation.

And even if it were, Costello is a Stanford grad, so I'm sure he can learn quickly

[TrapGame]

And even if it were, Costello is a Stanford grad, so I'm sure he can learn quickly

Maybe with an electrical engineering degree he could have deciphered Joe's WR routes that looked like electrical specs.

[dawgday166]

I'm just hanging with Mike. I think he probably knows what he's doing, unlike the previous regime.

[Coach34]

So much ridiculousness in this thread.

I love Leach and he is one of the funniest guys in college football. You can post about potential problems and potholes along the way and not hate someone
I am skeptical of us being very good in 2020. We are not very good at WR and wont be very good on defense
You absolutely try to bring in a top talent at QB- my post in no way said you shouldnt. Just like last year when we were courting Stevens- I told you guys to look for KT to look to transfer. Many of you kept saying no way he would do that. And what did he do? He entered the transfer portal. It didnt work out for him and Joe threw him to the side. Got zero out of him in 2019.

The QB implosion I wrote about was Shrader possibly bailing. Mayden could go juco still and work to get another offer. Who knows what with KT. Leaving us with the QB transfer and a true Freshman thats not ready for SEC play. Will it happen? Who the **** knows. But it is something to watch moving forward. Thats all my post was about.

You bitched when I said KT would look to tranfer- he did.
You bitched about me calling Moorhead- JoVester. He was
You bitch when I post about possible scenarios we could face, Stop being bitches. You have to think ahead on all of this and possible problems.

[dawgday166]

I think a lot of folks have some strong maroon shades on.

We have an inexperienced team with a lot of youth especially on the D side.
We have an unsettled situation at QB yet.
To top it off, we have a complete coaching turnover which always takes some adjustment.
A work/responsibility culture that needs to be recreated.
And while Leach's offense is somewhat simple, mastering it in game conditions will take some time.
Even BJ Symons said that (Leach's 2nd QB at TT) and he tutored behind Kingsbury.
Gardner Minshew was a pretty traveled QB and stepped into a situation where he was the only one that really had to learn it ... and the culture was already rock solid.

Woohoo ... I think we win 10 to 11 *****

[PMDawg]

Yeah, I'm kind of tracking with Coach34 on this one. I think we are a 5 to 7 win team next year. But I'm still excited. We may go 6-6, but we'll break every MSU passing record on the way there!

[MrKotter]

Yeah, I'm kind of tracking with Coach34 on this one. I think we are a 5 to 7 win team next year. But I'm still excited. We may go 6-6, but we'll break every MSU passing record on the way there!

Very few have said we're going to be vastly improved regarding wins/losses next year. As usual, 34 has thrown out every scenario possible so he can pull the "I told you so" BS which is beyond tired. The vast majority of post are people excited we have some competent running the program who will put a much better product out than the last guy. I'm sure we'll take our lumps this year but we should see a good example of where we're headed.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

So 34, let's take your "QB implosion" and say that's the result if we take a grad transfer. And let's say its Costello. Our options are:

A) go into next year with a true So Shrader who doesnt really fit the mold of a Leach QB, go into next year with a true Fr QB that does fit leaches mold, and 2 other QBs that by all accounts suck ass as passers so have no shot either way. In '21 we have this same crew 1 year older, with either Shrader or Roger's beingthe starter (probably Rogers though unless Shrader keeps his head on straight and improves as a passer by quite a bit).

B) we go into next year with a very good proven QB that can do exactly what Leach wants, a true Fr QB that does fit what Leach wants, and nothing else. In '21 we either get another grad transfer, a stud true Fr that can play immediately, or roll with RFr Rogers.


In what world is A) better? B) gives us a better '20 and probably the same starter in '21 as A) does. And again weve got the grad transfer market as a get out of jail free card.

AND, all of this is assuming Shrader transfers. If he stays to fight Rogers for '21 we get a better '20 AND have a better QB room in '21 than we do in '20 with no grad transfer.

I dont get caring about KT or Mayden. Mayden isn't a runner and practice reports say hes innaccurate. KT is a great runner but has shown zero ability to throw the ball, make reads, or even understand the O. KT fits the Leach O as well as Tyson Lee fit *******. He didnt "outduele" Lamar Jackson, Mark McLaurins 3 ints outdueled Jackson. KT was mediocre at best and has done absolutely nothing since to indicate hes a good player or leader. Let KT and Mayden go, they were good prospects but haven't panned out. It happens to 4* QBs all the time.

All QB talk should revolve exclusively around a transfer, Shrader, Rogers, or some future HS recruit.

[bluelightstar]

Practice reports do not say Mayden is inaccurate. In fact, they said he was the most accurate and the most natural passer. Very curious.

[Coach34]

Very few have said we're going to be vastly improved regarding wins/losses next year. As usual, 34 has thrown out every scenario possible so he can pull the "I told you so" BS which is beyond tired. The vast majority of post are people excited we have some competent running the program who will put a much better product out than the last guy. I'm sure we'll take our lumps this year but we should see a good example of where we're headed.

Here is where the lie starts. We have plenty of people here talking 8-9 wins next year. The “Easy schedule” mantra has been thrown out. Hell- even a couple of people talking about Bama being in play next year because of Leach. Very few of us are being realistic and talking 6 wins. Most here are saying 8 wins. Nobody is talking about “taking lumps” next year

[Mjoelner34]

Maybe with an electrical engineering degree he could have deciphered Joe's WR routes that looked like electrical specs.

Here is the diagram of one of Joe's plays with the pre-snap read, 1st in-play read and 2nd in-play read all built in and disguised as an automotive harness so the opposition wouldn't catch on.

[Todd4State]

I'm not sure what next year holds. We could very well win 6. We could win as many as 10 if everything goes right which rarely happens. Leach is going to get everything established this year with his program so yeah we may take some lumps.

We also need to see what kind of transfers we get in as well.

To me, really our season is going to come down to how much the grad and JUCO transfers help us out and also how quickly they help us out. Complete unknown at this point and I don't think the spring game will tell us a lot either since most of the grad transfer won't be here until the summer.

The biggest thing is I think our roster will start to balance out with upperclassmen around 2021 or so. Dan sucking at roster management has caused us problems the past few years and that's why we're having to plug so many holes.

[Todd4State]

Practice reports do not say Mayden is inaccurate. In fact, they said he was the most accurate and the most natural passer. Very curious.

I think he's accurate on short passes but not so much on deeper throws. Based on my limited observation of him.

[maroonmania]

KT isn't a WR. He's going to transfer out and we can then quit discussing him finally. Had Mullen stayed, maybe QB would've worked for him. He'll do well at Nichols or McNeese or a directional LA school. Nothing wrong with that.

KT has NO chance in this offense as a QB. We all know it, so whatever he decides to do is fine with me but I fully expect him to leave. Believe he graduates in May anyway. This offense is all about passing decisions and passing accuracy. Those are just not things KT does well. He needs a QB run heavy, one read offense more in line with what Mullen runs.

[Todd4State]

KT has NO chance in this offense as a QB. We all know it, so whatever he decides to do is fine with me but I fully expect him to leave. Believe he graduates in May anyway. This offense is all about passing decisions and passing accuracy. Those are just not things KT does well. He needs a QB run heavy, one read offense more in line with what Mullen runs.

He should go to Tulane.