We getting all excited about the QB transfer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is where the lie starts. We have plenty of people here talking 8-9 wins next year. The “Easy schedule” mantra has been thrown out. Hell- even a couple of people talking about Bama being in play next year because of Leach. Very few of us are being realistic and talking 6 wins. Most here are saying 8 wins. Nobody is talking about “taking lumps” next year

---

To be fair, it's just a few posters calling their shots in regards to 8-9+ wins in '20.....the vast majority of peeps are just excited for what the future holds and assume we'll be be better because of 1) we've got Leach, and 2) we've booted Joe.

When is Costello expected to be here for visit?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by msstate7

When is Costello expected to be here for visit?

---

He got here around 6:00 earlier this evening I believe. That’s when he was expected to get into town.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by msstate7

When is Costello expected to be here for visit?

---

He's here now. Hopefully all goes well.

Does Costello have anymore visits planned, or can we expect a decision this weekend?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is where the lie starts. We have plenty of people here talking 8-9 wins next year. The “Easy schedule” mantra has been thrown out. Hell- even a couple of people talking about Bama being in play next year because of Leach. Very few of us are being realistic and talking 6 wins. Most here are saying 8 wins. Nobody is talking about “taking lumps” next year

---

Again, you're singling out a select few when the vast majority is being more realistic

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MrKotter

Again, you're singling out a select few when the vast majority is being more realistic

---

That's what he does. Seems like the majority on this thread are realist, but he'll simply ignore us because of a select few that fit his agenda.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by maroonmania

KT has NO chance in this offense as a QB. We all know it, so whatever he decides to do is fine with me but I fully expect him to leave. Believe he graduates in May anyway. This offense is all about passing decisions and passing accuracy. Those are just not things KT does well. He needs a QB run heavy, one read offense more in line with what Mullen runs.

---

I think he moves to receiver.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is where the lie starts. We have plenty of people here talking 8-9 wins next year. The ?Easy schedule? mantra has been thrown out. Hell- even a couple of people talking about Bama being in play next year because of Leach. Very few of us are being realistic and talking 6 wins. Most here are saying 8 wins. Nobody is talking about ?taking lumps? next year

---

I personally never expect to steal one like AU or A&M. I expect 6 wins but wouldn't be surprised at 5,7, or 8. I would be very surprised with 9 or more. There is always a chance that the personnel and the SEC being tough causes a transition year to be bumpy. No one knows how our WRs will take to the Air Raid so it is a total wild card.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dawgs

Yep. And if schrader is mature, he sees this as the best chance he has to being a NFL QB. If he doesn't wanna work and/or gets his feelings hurt over an incoming grad transfer (when he'd still have 2-3 years left as a potential starter after 2020), then he's not mature enough for us to plan on being a part of the future.

---

I have no good idea if Shrader can succeed in this offense or not but I believe if he is willing to work on his passing motion he can. But he, Mayden and Rogers get all the reps this Spring if we get Costello because Costello wouldn't even get here until the Summer. Spring ball should do plenty to show Leach and Shrader if this is going to work for him. With Mayden I have no clue because I haven't seen him play enough to form my own opinion.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is where the lie starts. We have plenty of people here talking 8-9 wins next year. The ?Easy schedule? mantra has been thrown out. Hell- even a couple of people talking about Bama being in play next year because of Leach. Very few of us are being realistic and talking 6 wins. Most here are saying 8 wins. Nobody is talking about ?taking lumps? next year

---

I don't know, coach. I've seen more than a few say Leach should get us back to a bowl this year and that should be the goal. You have the usual handful talking SEC championship next year but let them live their dream. The majority on here are realists and realize it will take a year to get where we need to be with Leach's offense. I feel 8 wins would be our absolute ceiling next year and Leach would be performing way beyond what should be expected with the current roster. I think 7 wins is more probable and that 6 wins would be our floor next season.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dawgology

I don't know, coach. I've seen more than a few say Leach should get us back to a bowl this year and that should be the goal. You have the usual handful talking SEC championship next year but let them live their dream. The majority on here are realists and realize it will take a year to get where we need to be with Leach's offense. I feel 8 wins would be our absolute ceiling next year and Leach would be performing way beyond what should be expected with the current roster. I think 7 wins is more probable and that 6 wins would be our floor next season.

---

I agree. I had picked 5-7 before the coaching change. I’m now thinking 7-5.

I think 7-5 but will also add I think we have a WTF loss ... but also a WTF win (upset).

I picked 8-9 wins with the bowl game and I'm sticking to it. 17 the negative Nancy's.

Personally, I think our wide receivers are our Achilles heel and could cause our lead-the-nation-in-passing plans to implode. There?s still time to find some that can perform in this offense, bit at this point I?m not excited about our prospects.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Joebob

Personally, I think our wide receivers are our Achilles heel and could cause our lead-the-nation-in-passing plans to implode. There?s still time to find some that can perform in this offense, bit at this point I?m not excited about our prospects.

---

I think they'll get a lot better. Simplified offense from a WR standpoint and Leach will train the hell out them on catching the football.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Joebob

Personally, I think our wide receivers are our Achilles heel and could cause our lead-the-nation-in-passing plans to implode. There?s still time to find some that can perform in this offense, bit at this point I?m not excited about our prospects.

---

I'm going to be very interested to see how they develop. I'm hopeful that improved S&C, more opportunities to go around, and a scheme with shorter and more high percentage routes yields surprising results.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm going to be very interested to see how they develop. I'm hopeful that improved S&C, more opportunities to go around, and a scheme with shorter and more high percentage routes yields surprising results.

---

It's not just S&C. It's also how he trains them to where catching the ball becomes 2nd nature to them. Maybe that's the C part of S&C but I kind consider it separate.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Coach34

Here is where the lie starts. We have plenty of people here talking 8-9 wins next year. The ?Easy schedule? mantra has been thrown out. Hell- even a couple of people talking about Bama being in play next year because of Leach. Very few of us are being realistic and talking 6 wins. Most here are saying 8 wins. Nobody is talking about ?taking lumps? next year

---

Who really cares if a few fans want to believe we could win 8-9 games. Whatever we do this fall is almost assuredly better than what we would have done with Moorhead. At least I don't think Leach will put a team out there that is Charmin soft.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by maroonmania

Who really cares if a few fans want to believe we could win 8-9 games. Whatever we do this fall is almost assuredly better than what we would have done with Moorhead. At least I don't think Leach will put a team out there that is Charmin soft.

---

100% agree we are better of than we were with JoVester

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19

Why is it some of our fans can't just sit back and enjoy the complete 180 we've made in the last 3 weeks? We went from complete apathy, not wanting the 2020 season to come, no one wanting to go to the games, calling for Joe to be fired immediately & NOW we've hired a sitting P5 HC who has 139 career wins/is a national treasure and darling/one of the greatest and most proven offensive minds in all of CFB, we have tons of momentum going into 2020 now, hired a solid DC from a P5 school who's got tons of upside, we have lost ONLY 1 signee and Dawgfan77 says it was encouraged, we've got a proven grad transfer QB heavily leaning towards us and OV'ing this weekend who threw for 3,600 yds with 29 TD's as a junior and was rated the #45 NFL prospect overall going into 2019 season, and now the fanbase is completely united (well, most people who aren't hell-bent on trying to spread pessimism) and we're about to sell TONS of season tickets when we previously would have lost tons and we will have a HUGE crowd at the Spring game simply because everyone is so damn excited to see how the Pirate's offense looks with SEC athletes.

All to say, if you can't just be excited and quit trying to spread pessimistic BS when we've done unprecedented things at MSU this month and things are looking up for the program when it looked doomed a month ago, then get help. #SwingYourSword #HailDamnState

---

Thought Hemingway died.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by msstate7

And even if it were, Costello is a Stanford grad, so I'm sure he can learn quickly

---

Don't know....he didn't get in Stanford's graduate program.

Maybe we can get him in bonehead chemistry.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mjoelner34

Here is the diagram of one of Joe's plays with the pre-snap read, 1st in-play read and 2nd in-play read all built in and disguised as an automotive harness so the opposition wouldn't catch on.
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/dr350_...1994_color.png

---

And in the end....it was a bad fuse.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dawgoneyall

And in the end....it was a bad fuse.

---

And it caused the car to ignite and burn up ****

At the end of the day I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4 in year one. I think we have the brightest offensive mind in football with a legit draft pick at quarterback (assuming Costello commits). We have a unique DC that I expect to make us formidable this year. Extremely favorable sec schedule. The receivers are the biggest question but Mike has been able to make it worth with much less talented receivers than we have so I expect us to be much better at that spot.

We should hear something positive in the next few hours.

I'm okay with our qb situation either way. I really want a few stud wr's allot more than another qb, although if we can get an amazing qb that's good too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

We should hear something positive in the next few hours.

---

Costello expected to put something out pretty soon?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dawgoneyall

Don't know....he didn't get in Stanford's graduate program.

Maybe we can get him in bonehead chemistry.

---

We've got a great online course for that I hear.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jarius

At the end of the day I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4 in year one. I think we have the brightest offensive mind in football with a legit draft pick at quarterback (assuming Costello commits). We have a unique DC that I expect to make us formidable this year. Extremely favorable sec schedule. The receivers are the biggest question but Mike has been able to make it worth with much less talented receivers than we have so I expect us to be much better at that spot.

---

Expect? That's a bit strong. If EVERYTHING goes right, 8 max. Expect 6 or so, and and anything better is gravy.

Our defense sucked this year. And we lost our best player at every level. Ouch.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by PMDawg

Expect? That's a bit strong. If EVERYTHING goes right, 8 max. Expect 6 or so, and and anything better is gravy.

Our defense sucked this year. And we lost our best player at every level. Ouch.

---

No, I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4. We would have went 8-4 this year with any competent coaching staff in the country. We are losing very few people on defense that played a great deal of snaps last year. Dantzler was hurt a lot or just decided not to play in key games. Willie did not play very much at all. Autry did not play much at all. The biggest loss is certainly Rivers, but that position continually got better throughout the year as players grew up. We are bringing a lot back on the DL and we also have some big time juco players coming in. The defense should be a little bit better. We have recruited really well on that side of the ball especially and return a good bit of young guys that got a ton of reps and had some really big time guys redshirt. We will 100% be better offensively by a large margin. I expect a team basically as talented as last year but with much better offensive coaching and much more discipline to go along with a very favorable schedule. We can go 8-4 and not beat anyone worth a crap. We could also go 6-6 if we have some bad luck, but that should be the floor based on Leach's entire career. He's only had 2 seasons worse than 6-6 and those were at the worst P5 school in the country within his first 3 years on the job. He's inheriting a team that has consensus top 25 talent that plays a schedule similar to Washington state's except for about 3 games. He's also bringing in a draft pick at qb and returning the SEC's leading rusher. 6 wins is the floor for Mike Leach teams with anywhere near that type of talent.

At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.

---

Some of that might be cause he coached them to become good receivers. Not saying we have great receivers but Guidry had talent. If he would've/could've just used it.

Remember our offense got worse and worse as the season progressed last year.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jarius

No, I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4. We would have went 8-4 this year with any competent coaching staff in the country. We are losing very few people on defense that played a great deal of snaps last year. Dantzler was hurt a lot or just decided not to play in key games. Willie did not play very much at all. Autry did not play much at all. The biggest loss is certainly Rivers, but that position continually got better throughout the year as players grew up. We are bringing a lot back on the DL and we also have some big time juco players coming in. The defense should be a little bit better. We have recruited really well on that side of the ball especially and return a good bit of young guys that got a ton of reps and had some really big time guys redshirt. We will 100% be better offensively by a large margin. I expect a team basically as talented as last year but with much better offensive coaching and much more discipline to go along with a very favorable schedule. We can go 8-4 and not beat anyone worth a crap. We could also go 6-6 if we have some bad luck, but that should be the floor based on Leach's entire career. He's only had 2 seasons worse than 6-6 and those were at the worst P5 school in the country within his first 3 years on the job. He's inheriting a team that has consensus top 25 talent that plays a schedule similar to Washington state's except for about 3 games. He's also bringing in a draft pick at qb and returning the SEC's leading rusher. 6 wins is the floor for Mike Leach teams with anywhere near that type of talent.

---

I agree with all of this.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bothrops

Remember our offense got worse and worse as the season progressed last year.

---

If I recall we bottomed out against LSU and Moorhead threatened to open up the QB competition and then our offense improved other than getting shut out against Alabama. And then we reverted back to pre-Texas A&M in the Outback Bowl.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.

---

Other than Crabtree and Welker it's not like he has exactly been blessed with Rice and Moss throughout his career. And not sure about Crabtree but Welker was definitely not highly recruited.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

At no point in his career, has Leach had worse WR talent than the ones that played for us last year. Heath and Tulu might help, but I don't think some of you realize how truly bad our WR talent has been. We're thin on defense in some spots too.

---

If Mike thought that were true he would be in the transfer portal bringing in wide receivers and he is not. He actually complimented our returning wide receivers the other day and at the same time did not compliment our returning quarterbacks (he did not dig them but certainly skipped over the opportunity to praise them). A lot of our problems on offense stemmed from our hard headed head coach IMO.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

Other than Crabtree and Welker it's not like he has exactly been blessed with Rice and Moss throughout his career. And not sure about Crabtree but Welker was definitely not highly recruited.

---

Welker was a bad ass.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jarius

No, I expect us to go 7-5 or 8-4. We would have went 8-4 this year with any competent coaching staff in the country. We are losing very few people on defense that played a great deal of snaps last year. Dantzler was hurt a lot or just decided not to play in key games. Willie did not play very much at all. Autry did not play much at all. The biggest loss is certainly Rivers, but that position continually got better throughout the year as players grew up. We are bringing a lot back on the DL and we also have some big time juco players coming in. The defense should be a little bit better. We have recruited really well on that side of the ball especially and return a good bit of young guys that got a ton of reps and had some really big time guys redshirt. We will 100% be better offensively by a large margin. I expect a team basically as talented as last year but with much better offensive coaching and much more discipline to go along with a very favorable schedule. We can go 8-4 and not beat anyone worth a crap. We could also go 6-6 if we have some bad luck, but that should be the floor based on Leach's entire career. He's only had 2 seasons worse than 6-6 and those were at the worst P5 school in the country within his first 3 years on the job. He's inheriting a team that has consensus top 25 talent that plays a schedule similar to Washington state's except for about 3 games. He's also bringing in a draft pick at qb and returning the SEC's leading rusher. 6 wins is the floor for Mike Leach teams with anywhere near that type of talent.

---

Oh I believe you expect it. I just know you're wrong 99% of the time. Just trying to help you out.