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Originally Posted by
Random Poster
Here are some more facts:
We were 6th in Scoring for SEC-only- with a schedule that included playing the 13th, 12th, 11th, and 10th worst defenses in the SEC
Against Bama, LSU, A&M, and OM- we scored 6, 19, 17, and 27- 17.5 per game. That doesnt cut it in big games. Not in today's football
Here's the other fact- we struggled against those defenses last year with a NFL caliber starting QB starting for us.
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Defense better be good this year, because we will not be near the top of the conference offensively.
Maybe so, maybe not, have you seen any practices?
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Originally Posted by
grinnindawg
I have no idea of his value or lack there of to the program.
Unless you work for the FB team, it's unlikely you really know either.
I've worked with folks who seem worse than worthless. Then I visit a customer with them and realize how useful they are.
All I know about Hevesy is hearsay.
Yes I think there are likely weaker links.
That's the point of noting we were 2nd in offense in the SEC in SEC games last year.
Here's a few things I'd say are "weaker links":
Dan getting tighter than Dick's hat band for games he doesn't think we are going to win. (Dak too).
Playing time being based more on seniority than it needs to be.
The offensive staff deciding to block Bama & OM defensive front with 5. Over and over again.
Last year, I'd say the defense.
The last 2 years of offense have been incredible by State's standards.
To not give any credit to the OL coach over those 2 years is stupid.
When over and over you denigrate someone it's like an echo chamber.
As I said, he's the mean old coach that the recruits don't like so everything must be his fault.
I disagree about Hevesy because he is a huge albatross. That said I agree with the rest of your post and it was solid even though I disagree about Hevesy.
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Senior Member
We do.
My hope is whoever the QB is plays loose.
A little more Stabler/Favre than Peyton/Rivers.
I'd like a QB who is a counterpoint to Dan's nervousness in big games.
That or we need to install a beer fridge in the locker room.
Take 2 before big games.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I didn't post this to say hev is blameless or that the defense is to blame. I was just saying the oline hasn't been the only weak link on our team
You are right. Oline hasn't been the only weak link. The difference is that the weak links get processed on the other side of the ball, but the weak links on offense get a pass (or Hev does anyway).
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Mullen has proven himself to be one of the best offensive minds in college football. That can't be denied based on his track record and how he's transformed MSU into uncharted offensive territory. There is no doubt though that we haven't had the studs on the O-line to compete with the big boys consistently.
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I believe that's the difference between us and the team up north. They play loose and relaxed in the big games when we don't. If we would just let it go, the guys may pull a few of them games off.
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Originally Posted by
munk_munk92
I believe that's the difference between us and the team up north. They play loose and relaxed in the big games when we don't. If we would just let it go, the guys may pull a few of them games off.
Are you suggesting our team get high before games?**
I just don?t want someone to fall out of a window.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
Mullen has proven himself to be one of the best offensive minds in college football. That can't be denied based on his track record and how he's transformed MSU into uncharted offensive territory. There is no doubt though that we haven't had the studs on the O-line to compete with the big boys consistently.
I'm not shorting Mullen- because he does have a good offensive mind- but every team in college football except LSU is in uncharted offensive territory. We are in the Offensive Age of Football
In 2008- Only 5 SEC teams averaged 23 or more PPG
IN 2015- 11 teams averaged 23 or more points
In 2008- 6 teams averaged 350 yard per game or more
In 2015- 11 teams did
Its a new age and every school is setting offensive records- not just us
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Are you suggesting our team get high before games?**
I just don?t want someone to fall out of a window.
Na. Just maybe pass out some "special" brownies to Hev. Especially on recruiting trips. You know he won't pass up eating some brownies while riding around.
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O-line is way more of a concern than CB. The pressure by our DL and LBs will help the corners.
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Can the mods start a Hevesy bashing forum so the rest of us don't have to see it every single day? We get it. You think he sucks and needs to be fired. Next!
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Can the mods start a Hevesy bashing forum so the rest of us don't have to see it every single day? We get it. You think he sucks and needs to be fired. Next!
I like it.
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Originally Posted by
Joe Schmedlap
Riddle me this: is there a weaker link in the program than Hevesey?
Not according to Mullen.

Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Can the mods start a Hevesy bashing forum so the rest of us don't have to see it every single day? We get it. You think he sucks and needs to be fired. Next!
Or a suggestion box to be sent to Mullen. I'm sure he will be more than happy to take note of all the suggestions.
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Can the mods start a Hevesy bashing forum so the rest of us don't have to see it every single day? We get it. You think he sucks and needs to be fired. Next!
This is a great idea!
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Can the mods start a Hevesy bashing forum so the rest of us don't have to see it every single day? We get it. You think he sucks and needs to be fired. Next!
Convert it to a Cohen bunt bashing forum for baseball season, and it may be the most popular forum on the interwebs.
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Originally Posted by
munk_munk92
I believe that's the difference between us and the team up north. They play loose and relaxed in the big games when we don't. If we would just let it go, the guys may pull a few of them games off.
Yep. All one needs to see is the pregame behavior of the rebs for last yrs egg bowl compared to ours. I could sense it would not be a good day for the Dawgs. Rebs were more than loose. Made me sick to see all their dancing and prancing. They were loose!
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