A few practices observations

[Ifyouonlyknew]

One name I haven't seen mentioned all camp long is Osiris Mitchell. I knew Todd was a stud, but what about Mitchell?

I think everybody just knew he was going to RS so his name doesn't get brought up much. He's had his moments but needed the RS year to develop & get stronger.

[Bodawg]

I think everybody just knew he was going to RS so his name doesn't get brought up much. He's had his moments but needed the RS year to develop & get stronger.

Yea, 6' 4", 190 lbs. Needs some work in the weight room. Washington came in at 185. Now, after redshirt, he's listed at 225.

[MaroonFlounder]

Defense better be good this year, because we will not be near the top of the conference offensively.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I'm not thrilled with our oline, but let's take a look at some stats...

Total offense in sec --

'15 -- 3rd
'14 -- 1st

'15 -- 10th
'14 -- 12th

Seems like our biggest problem has been defense. You hardly ever hear the bitching about any group of our defense that you do about our oline, despite the fact our oline has been serviceable enough to give us a very good offense

Are those SEC game only stats or stats from all games?

[TrapGame]

Defense better be good this year, because we will not be near the top of the conference offensively.

Not one real game snap yet and we all Woody McCorvey. Hold on Hoss. We got the tools and if the OL is improved we'll do better than you think.

[msstate7]

Are those SEC game only stats or stats from all games?

All games. Here's conference only rankings....

'15 offense -- #2
'14 offense -- #2

'15 defense -- #12
'14 defense -- #9

[grinnindawg]

Don't be bringing your facts up in here.

These folks needed a head on a pike for us not winning the SEC last year.

They've chosen Hevesy as the evil villain that's obviously the cause of all our woes.

[I seen it dawg]

Well he damn sure ain't a stud

[msstate7]

Don't be bringing your facts up in here.

These folks needed a head on a pike for us not winning the SEC last year.

They've chosen Hevesy as the evil villain that's obviously the cause of all our woes.

I didn't post this to say hev is blameless or that the defense is to blame. I was just saying the oline hasn't been the only weak link on our team

[Turfdawg67]

Don't be bringing your facts up in here.

These folks needed a head on a pike for us not winning the SEC last year.

They've chosen Hevesy as the evil villain that's obviously the cause of all our woes.

And you don't be bringing all that logic to this message board either!

[basedog]

I'd like to know if Fitz showed leadership? I have a friend who thinks he is not and players don't like him.

Wish someone would comment about this as I don't believe he is a problem. His problem is he hasn't played QB very long.

[tireddawg]

I'm not thrilled with our oline, but let's take a look at some stats...

Total offense in sec --

'15 -- 3rd
'14 -- 1st

'15 -- 10th
'14 -- 12th

Seems like our biggest problem has been defense. You hardly ever hear the bitching about any group of our defense that you do about our oline, despite the fact our oline has been serviceable enough to give us a very good offense

Dak

[Joe Schmedlap]

Don't be bringing your facts up in here.

These folks needed a head on a pike for us not winning the SEC last year.

They've chosen Hevesy as the evil villain that's obviously the cause of all our woes.

Riddle me this: is there a weaker link in the program than Hevesey?

[grinnindawg]

I have no idea of his value or lack there of to the program.
Unless you work for the FB team, it's unlikely you really know either.
I've worked with folks who seem worse than worthless. Then I visit a customer with them and realize how useful they are.
All I know about Hevesy is hearsay.

Yes I think there are likely weaker links.
That's the point of noting we were 2nd in offense in the SEC in SEC games last year.

Here's a few things I'd say are "weaker links":
Dan getting tighter than Dick's hat band for games he doesn't think we are going to win. (Dak too).
Playing time being based more on seniority than it needs to be.
The offensive staff deciding to block Bama & OM defensive front with 5. Over and over again.
Last year, I'd say the defense.

The last 2 years of offense have been incredible by State's standards.
To not give any credit to the OL coach over those 2 years is stupid.

When over and over you denigrate someone it's like an echo chamber.
As I said, he's the mean old coach that the recruits don't like so everything must be his fault.

[msstate7]

Riddle me this: is there a weaker link in the program than Hevesey?

Maybe, maybe not, but I think CB could more of a problem than oline this year. Is that hev's fault too?

[lamont]

Don't be bringing your facts up in here.

These folks needed a head on a pike for us not winning the SEC last year.

They've chosen Hevesy as the evil villain that's obviously the cause of all our woes.

Here are some more facts:

We were 6th in Scoring for SEC-only- with a schedule that included playing the 13th, 12th, 11th, and 10th worst defenses in the SEC

Against Bama, LSU, A&M, and OM- we scored 6, 19, 17, and 27- 17.5 per game. That doesnt cut it in big games. Not in today's football

[msstate7]

Here are some more facts:

We were 6th in Scoring for SEC-only- with a schedule that included playing the 13th, 12th, 11th, and 10th worst defenses in the SEC

Against Bama, LSU, A&M, and OM- we scored 6, 19, 17, and 27- 17.5 per game. That doesnt cut it in big games. Not in today's football

We also played the top 2 scoring defenses in the sec. We didn't score against bama, but gained 393 yards which is over 100 yards more than they allowed per game. Got to score though... I get that.

Against the 2nd best scoring defense in the sec, we scored 31 against mizzou.

Vs aTm, we had 2 costly fumbles that hurt us. We had over 400 yards of offense, but gave up over 500

Without Dak, we would've gotten killed by lsu and om last year, but he really let us down a few plays vs them that hurt us. Please don't take this as me blaming Dak bc we would've had no shot without him.

[Really Clark?]

Here are some more facts:

We were 6th in Scoring for SEC-only- with a schedule that included playing the 13th, 12th, 11th, and 10th worst defenses in the SEC

Against Bama, LSU, A&M, and OM- we scored 6, 19, 17, and 27- 17.5 per game. That doesnt cut it in big games. Not in today's football

Wait a minute now. Those bad defense in the SEC that we played, everybody in the west played similar numbers. The bottom half of the league in scoring defense was LSU, MS ST, UNM, Kentucky, Auburn, AR, and So Car. Crap man everybody in the west was guaranteed to play at least 3 if not more bottom defenses in scoring average.

I'm also sure that those scoring defensive numbers in conference only games have nothing to do with the fact 5 of the top 6 scoring offenses in SEC only games just so happened to be from the SEC West. I'm sure that has no coorelation to the defensive numbers at all. Good grief.

[lamont]

We also played the top 2 scoring defenses in the sec. We didn't score against bama, but gained 393 yards which is over 100 yards more than they allowed per game. Got to score though... I get that.

Against the 2nd best scoring defense in the sec, we scored 31 against mizzou.

Vs aTm, we had 2 costly fumbles that hurt us. We had over 400 yards of offense, but gave up over 500

Without Dak, we would've gotten killed by lsu and om last year, but he really let us down a few plays vs them that hurt us. Please don't take this as me blaming Dak bc we would've had no shot without him.

We've struggled to score in big SEC games under Mullen. That cant be denied.

[msstate7]

We've struggled to score in big SEC games under Mullen. That cant be denied.

It certainly can't... We have to do better