Is anyone here still in the "OM Gonna Skate" camp?

[AlmostPositive]

That mindset has always perplexed me, that State fans would allow themselves to fall for Rebel spin...

EVERY single indicator since January of this year has pointed toward the Rebel Alliance, when this is all in the books, getting rode hard and put up wet.

I have no particular insight, but you don't need to be Karnac the Magnificent to see what's coming. IT's been coming for some time, and when IT does pull into the station, there will Be No Skating.


At a minimum:

Four Show Causes
Two year bowl ban
21 over three



By the time their probation is over, they'll be getting pounded on to change "Ole Miss" and "Rebels" to something innocuous, and by then they'll probably welcome the change.

[Todd4State]

I didn’t think Ole Miss would skate because from the NCAA’s point of view it wouldn’t have made any sense to let them skate while at the same time pissing off Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, Texas, etc. and everyone else that is pissed off at Ole Miss. Because if they do let Ole Miss skate, they run a MAJOR risk of members like the ones I mentioned breaking away from the NCAA.

Plus why would the NCAA want to try to manage a situation where it’s basically a major bidding war for players that they wouldn’t be able to enforce? It would just get out of control.

The NCAA gains nothing by letting Ole Miss skate.

[Todd4State]

The other scary thing for Ole Miss here is after years of Slive basically doing whatever he could to keep SEC teams off of probation like Auburn with Cam Newton I think the NCAA is looking for a SEC team to nail. Because of the size of their fanbase and the revenue that they bring to the SEC as a lower tier member- Ole Miss is an obvious target because them getting nailed isn’t going to affect SEC revenue at all and it gives the NCAA the perception that the SEC isn’t immune.

Not to mention the fact that the NCAA is looking to make up for the botched Miami case.

[Bubb Rubb]

After Auburn/Cam, Ole Miss made a calculated gamble - they would go all in and the NCAA wouldn't touch them. It almost worked. Almost.

[Commercecomet24]

After Auburn/Cam, Ole Miss made a calculated gamble - they would go all in and the NCAA wouldn't touch them. It almost worked. Almost.

Kinda like being almost pregnant.

[BB30]

Ill admit that at the beginning I thought they would skate. I felt this way solely off of previous NCAA investigations namely the Miami debacle. I also didn't think they were stupid enough to have their head coach in a house with a booster. Also did not think they were stupid enough to lie to the public right in front of the NCAA and act all innocent and poor Ole miss like. I now firmly believe they are going to receive what they deserve.

[Dolphus Raymond]

I agree with 21 or so over 3 and 2 year bowl ban for the first NOI. My question is what happens for the second investigation? Will the NCAA wait and lump all the penalties together or will there be another set of penalties? Thoughts?

[AROB44]

The other scary thing for Ole Miss here is after years of Slive basically doing whatever he could to keep SEC teams off of probation like Auburn with Cam Newton I think the NCAA is looking for a SEC team to nail. Because of the size of their fanbase and the revenue that they bring to the SEC as a lower tier member- Ole Miss is an obvious target because them getting nailed isn?t going to affect SEC revenue at all and it gives the NCAA the perception that the SEC isn?t immune.

Not to mention the fact that the NCAA is looking to make up for the botched Miami case.

This is the correct reason they will get hammered. OM, contrary to what they believe, is a very small fish in a big pond.

[TrapGame]

The NCAA is gunning for Freeze. These latest interviews with former recruits is not about a $100 handshake in the Grove. They want to place Freeze in the room with recruits and boosters where serious dollar amounts were discussed or given out. I'd bet money now Freeze gets a show cause.

[Jarius]

21 scholarships is a very low guess. They are giving immunity to players to spill the beans. They want to nail their ass. It's going to be closer to 30/35 scholarships.

[thf24]

Also did not think they were stupid enough to lie to the public right in front of the NCAA and act all innocent and poor Ole miss like.

Key element right here. Had they actually exercised the "exemplary cooperation" they claimed from the beginning, they may have actually gotten off pretty light. History clearly shows that if there's one thing that the NCAA will consistently and harshly punish, it's lying to them and/or subverting their efforts. UNM put the nail in their own coffin by letting their usual arrogance and delusion lead them to believe that they could worm their way out of this by deflecting and playing the PR game. Fitting that the end of all this will most likely show they made things far, far worse for themselves.

[maroonmania]

Ill admit that at the beginning I thought they would skate.

Well, quite a while back I thought they might just because they have done a he!! of a lot of cheating since the Billy Brewer days yet they haven't even had a hand slap since while we've been through 3 different probations I believe (2 under Jackie and the Redmond ordeal under Mullen). At this point though I will be shocked if they don't get blasted.

[BrunswickDawg]

The NCAA is gunning for Freeze. These latest interviews with former recruits is not about a $100 handshake in the Grove. They want to place Freeze in the room with recruits and boosters where serious dollar amounts were discussed or given out. I'd bet money now Freeze gets a show cause.

Steve mentioned on the Boneyard a few episodes back that people who hadn't been willing to talk had started talking. I'm wondering if Mr. FCA out of Memphis might have flipped and started talking. Think about it. Here is a real guy trying to honestly help kids (by his account), asks OM if what he is doing is OK, they tell him yes, then throw him under the bus?? I'm sure ole Danny Hugh gave him the "Lord is my Sheppard" line, or "Am I my brothers keeper" and thought all was good. Now, Mr. FCA may be in on it and just as dirty as the rest - but wouldn't the irony be delicious if he is the one Steve says decided to come clean. A Christian with a guilty conscious can be a powerful thing.

[QuadrupleOption]

I think the only thing they might "skate" on is a Lack of Institutional Control charge.

I don't see how they would, since

A) They have multiple level 1 violations across three sports (that we are aware of)
B) They had a football player receive a free car, told him to send it back, then he got ANOTHER one and the Athletic Department never thought to follow up to make sure he was following the rules.
C) Their AD has been prominently spewing bullshit in the media for months about "exemplary cooperation" and "nothing to see here" - you know that has to chap some asses up in Indy.

I will be disappointed if they don't receive an LOIC along with the rest of their penalties, because if any case in the last 25 years has warranted one, it's this case.

[maroonmania]

The NCAA is gunning for Freeze. These latest interviews with former recruits is not about a $100 handshake in the Grove. They want to place Freeze in the room with recruits and boosters where serious dollar amounts were discussed or given out. I'd bet money now Freeze gets a show cause.

Yep, I'm really believing at this point that this Fall is the Freeze Farewell Tour. The NCAA is either going to give him a show cause or make it excruciating painful for UNM to keep him.

[MadDawg]

Keep in mind the Dan Wolken tweets from yesterday where he basically said "ole miss's arrogance and defiance might play well in MS, but it's not in Indy. The NCAA is made up of people, and people don't like being lied to."

I think this is playing large right now. I agree with the rebels that think the NCAA has a hardon for them right now, and I think they 100% brought on themselves for being such arrogant, lying pricks throughout this whole process.

[lamont]

Minimum of 30 schollys
Freeze show cause- staff fired
Minimum 2 year Bowl Ban
Bjork fired

Those things are going to happen by next summer. Immunity is being given because they already have something on the players and want the complete truth from them. The investigators tell them that they only want to hear about their recruitment from Mississippi- no other schools.

Mississippi's delay tactics and flat out lies to media has the people in Indy ready to nail them to the wall. You can't have what Tunsil did on Draft Night go unpunished. You can't be turned in by over 25 different schools the last 3 years and expect to survive. You can't brazenly cheat while you are being investigated and expect "9 over 3". The NCAA has learned a lot from their mistakes in the Miami investigation and aren't going to let that happen again

[ShotgunDawg]

Minimum of 30 schollys
Freeze show cause- staff fired
Minimum 2 year Bowl Ban
Bjork fired

This would set them back for a decade or so.

What coach is going to take a job with 30 scholarship limitations & a two year bowl ban? Joe Kines that's who.

[tireddawg]

I've heard repeat offender

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[gtowndawg]

The NCAA has to make an example. Here's another reason why: if you get setback for a couple of years, than in many people's eye's it was still worth it. Sugar bowl, beating Bama a couple of times, lot's of media attention. I'm willing to wager a lot of schools are willing to accept a couple of bad years for that. Are they willing to accept a decade of futility for that? No way. It has to be severe, otherwise, everyone should go all in.