Arnett back in at DC.

[DownwardDawg]

This 17ing thread needs a Mydol.

Hahaha!!! It has made my day!!!!

This week has been so awesome!! The ole miss fans complete meltdown. Then the guys at work that just hate LSU....they can't stop crying about the Kiffin situation. Now our fans melting about Zach!! This has been a freakin awesome week of entertainment for me!!!!

Not to mention the Bama fans out here crying today, then the LSU fans crying when they realize a 3 loss Bama team is still making the playoffs. It's Christmas come early!!!

[Cowbell]

They would have done better than Barbay. That?s for sure. However, it didn?t have to be an internal hire. The Air Raid is a wide spread system in college. There were a number of coordinators that they could have offered the job to.

He did offer it to others and they wouldn't take it. Nobody wanted to follow leach up

[Todd4State]

He did offer it to others and they wouldn't take it. Nobody wanted to follow leach up

Kind of hard to bring in an OC when the boosters friends have taken up almost all of the available spots.

[Turfdawg67]

We just need Tommy Lee to hit us State fans with the flashy thing.

I saw the Tommy Lee/Pam Anderson video. What "flashy thing" are we talking about and why do you want him to hit us with it?!?***

[KB21]

He did offer it to others and they wouldn't take it. Nobody wanted to follow leach up

Arnett didn't pursue a single Air Raid coordinator in that cycle.

[Thick]

How much does an air raid help the defense? If you?re not moving the ball, the clock stops after an incomplete pass, you are no huddle, and/or you go 3 and out?..then your defense has to be prepared to take more snaps then most defenses every game throughout the season. I would give ZA the benefit of saying that he wanted an offense that didn?t strain his defense game in and game out. That in itself can create more injuries, plus you better have good depth too.

[KB21]

How much does an air raid help the defense? If you?re not moving the ball, the clock stops after an incomplete pass, you are no huddle, and/or you go 3 and out?..then your defense has to be prepared to take more snaps then most defenses every game throughout the season. I would give ZA the benefit of saying that he wanted an offense that didn?t strain his defense game in and game out. That in itself can create more injuries, plus you better have good depth too.

So, he preferred an offense to average 21 PPG rather than 32 PPG?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Arnett didn't pursue a single Air Raid coordinator in that cycle.

He did not. That is on him. But we are not hiring him to be the HC. I think most know my thoughts on Arnett and I am not changing them. I think he damaged our program with his inability to make a decision and roll with it. He took advice from people who were self serving and he paid for it. I think the only thing that was his idea was that he wanted to change the offense.He very obviously wanted to run the more Dan Mullen style offense that needs a different type of QB. And we can talk in circles about that over and over and over again. It will not change a thing and it has no bearing on his job as DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

Arnett has a DC is a good coordinator. Not great, but a lot better than what we had.

[KB21]

He did not. That is on him. But we are not hiring him to be the HC. I think most know my thoughts on Arnett and I am not changing them. I think he damaged our program with his inability to make a decision and roll with it. He took advice from people who were self serving and he paid for it. I think the only thing that was his idea was that he wanted to change the offense.He very obviously wanted to run the more Dan Mullen style offense that needs a different type of QB. And we can talk in circles about that over and over and over again. It will not change a thing and it has no bearing on his job as DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

Arnett has a DC is a good coordinator. Not great, but a lot better than what we had.

I get the fact that he was a good coordinator at one time, but he also did a lot of damage to the program. Yet, we are welcoming him back because he's not Coleman Hutzler?

Part of being a good coordinator is making sure your staff is developing the younger players on the roster so that they will be able to step in when your starters graduate. He did not do that. His recruiting is questionable at best, and it's clear that the guys who had been here under him weren't ready to play when they had to step into starting roles.

[Bdawg]

On point #1. Did you really think Durkin, Pry, Armstrong, or Wilcox were going to uproot their families to hitch their wagon to a coach who is going to be on the hot seat going into next year? I knew none of those guys were coming. We got rid of the worst DC in MSU history and hired a guy who has been a successful DC. I'm not pissed.

I?m late to the party, but did all of those guys say no first before we went to Arnett? If so, then I think it?s a solid hire under the circumstances.

[Bdawg]

I mean who here hasn't rode thru a drive thru naked? Glass houses









lol

There are much much worse things that have gone on in the coaching world.

[EdwardDrayton]

I saw the Tommy Lee/Pam Anderson video. What "flashy thing" are we talking about and why do you want him to hit us with it?!?***

Ha! There's a flashback! LOL!!

[memsu06]

Roll back the clock to when we were forced to hire Arnett after Leach unexpectedly passes. Who would we have gone after that late in the year? We didn't even have an AD at the time. Our only real option at the time was to put Arnett in charge and see how he did. Now what transpired out of that was him needing help because he was over his head and listening to our dumbass boosters that influenced decisions.

Arnett as a DC was good and if Mike Leach liked him then that's good enough for me.

Get some recruits on the OL and DL first and see how we do.

[Jarius]

I get the fact that he was a good coordinator at one time, but he also did a lot of damage to the program. Yet, we are welcoming him back because he's not Coleman Hutzler?

Part of being a good coordinator is making sure your staff is developing the younger players on the roster so that they will be able to step in when your starters graduate. He did not do that. His recruiting is questionable at best, and it's clear that the guys who had been here under him weren't ready to play when they had to step into starting roles.

Coordinators are generally not known to be good recruiters. Lebby needs to ensure that he surrounds Arnett with a solid defensive recruiting staff around him. Bell coming back should be a non starter and I have no idea why they would do something that stupid. I know they talk like it may keep Kelley Jones from leaving but I don't see any way he doesn't go to the NFL anyway.

[BuckyIsAB****]

How much does an air raid help the defense? If you?re not moving the ball, the clock stops after an incomplete pass, you are no huddle, and/or you go 3 and out?..then your defense has to be prepared to take more snaps then most defenses every game throughout the season. I would give ZA the benefit of saying that he wanted an offense that didn?t strain his defense game in and game out. That in itself can create more injuries, plus you better have good depth too.

State was really good in TOP under Leach. It?s not like we went fast. Yall can say whatever you wanna say, but leach took over just about as big of a mess that Lebby did and he won more SEC games in a Covid year with 45 kids on the roster than frat bro has in 2 full years.

[Thick]

All I?m saying is that maybe ZA didn?t want an air raid offense. He was not ready to be a HC nor should we have put him into that position. Poor decision making was the reason he became our HC. I hope he succeeds as our DC, and there?s no need to run him down bc WE?..MSU hired him AGAIN!!!

[Really Clark?]

Kind of hard to bring in an OC when the boosters friends have taken up almost all of the available spots.

That's a little misremembering, we were deep into hiring Briles and who he wanted to bring with him when he leveraged it against Ark for a possible raise and then left for TCU. That's when we were scrambling and more influence happened.

[Really Clark?]

Arnett didn't pursue a single Air Raid coordinator in that cycle.

Spurrier was given an audition at the bowl game, if the offense actually looked competent he had a shot. Granted it was a long shot as many didn't think he is an OC. He proved that at Tulsa again.