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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    You have to separate Arnett the DC from Arnett the HC.

    Arnett the HC was a god awful HC and in so far over his head it was not funny.

    Arnett the DC was very good and did a whole lot with a lot of nothing.
    Lebby better hope his staff works the same time as Arnett's so Arnett the coach won't backstab him.

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    Great hire!!!

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    1. This hire sucks and feels like classic MSU WHEN COMPARED to the names that were floated out there earlier this week.
    2. Arnett had good defenses when he was here so IF he can rekindle that it?s a great hire
    3. I don?t hate it as long as we got a decent deal on his contract to pay for more staff. If we paid premium dollars for Arnett then Lebby will be gone at the end of the year because it shows he has no clue how to run a program
    4. Lebby knows it?s do or die this season so if he wants to place that responsibility on Arnett then I?ll get on board too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Lebby better hope his staff works the same time as Arnett's so Arnett the coach won't backstab him.
    I wonder if Lebby said "Hey I want Arnett" or of he was told "Hey Arnett is your DC."

    Kinda seem like it would be the latter. I'm okay with Arnett. But unless Lebby knows it isn't a do or die year and if we really had 2.5 mill to spend on a DC why would Lebby choose Arnett? Especially considering it might be a little odd and uncomfortable considering what happened.

    I feel like he was told "Arnett is your guy. We save x amount of money and that can be used to buy playmakers." Which isn't the worse thing in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I'll also say that I think this is an extremely questionable hire. I just don't think that it's ever a good idea to rehire a guy who was previously fired to come back and work for the guy who replaced him, at least not just 2 years later, and definitely not when the guy has had some ... mental health struggles? in the interim period.

    However, I've already given up on Lebby as a head coach for us, so it's just confirming my prior opinion that he's in over his head.
    You hate the hire? Whew, im feeling a lot better about it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    You hate the hire? Whew, im feeling a lot better about it then.
    Not so fast my friend... I love it! Dilemma, dilemma

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford View Post
    1. This hire sucks and feels like classic MSU WHEN COMPARED to the names that were floated out there earlier this week.
    2. Arnett had good defenses when he was here so IF he can rekindle that it?s a great hire
    3. I don?t hate it as long as we got a decent deal on his contract to pay for more staff. If we paid premium dollars for Arnett then Lebby will be gone at the end of the year because it shows he has no clue how to run a program
    4. Lebby knows it?s do or die this season so if he wants to place that responsibility on Arnett then I?ll get on board too
    On point #1. Did you really think Durkin, Pry, Armstrong, or Wilcox were going to uproot their families to hitch their wagon to a coach who is going to be on the hot seat going into next year? I knew none of those guys were coming. We got rid of the worst DC in MSU history and hired a guy who has been a successful DC. I'm not pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses View Post
    I wonder if Lebby said "Hey I want Arnett" or of he was told "Hey Arnett is your DC."

    Kinda seem like it would be the latter. I'm okay with Arnett. But unless Lebby knows it isn't a do or die year and if we really had 2.5 mill to spend on a DC why would Lebby choose Arnett? Especially considering it might be a little odd and uncomfortable considering what happened.

    I feel like he was told "Arnett is your guy. We save x amount of money and that can be used to buy playmakers." Which isn't the worse thing in the world.
    Not sure how this played out yet.

    However it did play out it's a tone deaf move by MSU and Selmon should have stepped in. I'm surprised that Keenum isn't stepping in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msudawg1200 View Post
    On point #1. Did you really think Durkin, Pry, Armstrong, or Wilcox were going to uproot their families to hitch their wagon to a coach who is going to be on the hot seat going into next year? I knew none of those guys were coming. We got rid of the worst DC in MSU history and hired a guy who has been a successful DC. I'm not pissed.
    We clearly could have gotten Matt Brock though.

    And that would have been a lot less divisive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Not so fast my friend... I love it! Dilemma, dilemma
    We agree on something 7.

    This is not a bad hire at all. In fact, it's a better hire than Armstrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    We agree on something 7.

    This is not a bad hire at all. In fact, it's a better hire than Armstrong.
    Yes it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    We clearly could have gotten Matt Brock though.

    And that would have been a lot less divisive.
    Did we not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    You hate the hire? Whew, im feeling a lot better about it then.
    Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Not so fast my friend... I love it! Dilemma, dilemma
    Hahaha!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msudawg1200 View Post
    Did we not?
    We did and that's exactly my point.

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    When Lebby was coaching at OM, didn?t his offenses have a difficult time with Arnett?s defenses? Maybe Lebby thinks a lot of Arnett?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by msudawg1200 View Post
    On point #1. Did you really think Durkin, Pry, Armstrong, or Wilcox were going to uproot their families to hitch their wagon to a coach who is going to be on the hot seat going into next year? I knew none of those guys were coming. We got rid of the worst DC in MSU history and hired a guy who has been a successful DC. I'm not pissed.
    That?s not the point. The point is we had other names floated out there with confidence and optimism (minus Durkin) for a week and then out of left field we bring a guy we fired (I get he was fired as a HC and not a DC but we fired him none the less).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford View Post
    That?s not the point. The point is we had other names floated out there with confidence and optimism (minus Durkin) for a week and then out of left field we bring a guy we fired (I get he was fired as a HC and not a DC but we fired him none the less).
    We wouldn't have fired him as a Dc. Had leach not died, arnett woulda most likely been poached by a bigger program or hired as a HC at a smaller program bc he was good

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We wouldn't have fired him as a Dc. Had leach not died, arnett woulda most likely been poached by a bigger program or hired as a HC at a smaller program bc he was good
    LSU came after him hard as DC and he choose to stay here

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    Ridiculous. This hire tells me everything I need to know. The coaching world views Lebby as a dead man walking. No DC worth a damn wants to be on the MSU Titanic with Cap?n Lebby. They all think he?s already hit the iceberg and are waiting for the ship to sink, not boarding rescue vessels. Every DC target we had passed, so we had to bring back Arnett. Hell, we might as well have kept Hutz. We?re screwed.
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