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11-30-2025, 11:45 PM
#121
Another stat... Shapen only has 2 career games where he has gone over 300 yards against SEC opponents. Florida and Texas.
6 total if you go back to Baylor. Those include some stout defenses. Toledo, OK State, West Virginia, and Texas State.
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11-30-2025, 11:49 PM
#122

Originally Posted by
RisperDawg
I've been out of the loop most of the day aside from a text from a friend about Lane and then a quick scroll of Reddit to read about that. I was happy to come to my favorite State board to find a thread entitled "2026 Football Coaching Staff Tracker." With over 100 posts, I was excited to read about what were surely some major developments. Instead, it's nearly six pages of the same back and forth from the other threads about Lebby, Dan, etc., with no end in sight. Lol. Should've known better.
I mean ... the OP of the thread posted about boosters trying to get Mullen in reply #1, and nobody has posted anything about who the assistants are going to be. So what else would be discussing here?
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11-30-2025, 11:52 PM
#123

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
I mean ... the OP of the thread posted about boosters trying to get Mullen in reply #1, and nobody has posted anything about who the assistants are going to be. So what else would be discussing here?
Well, that's what I'm saying. Me coming into it blind, I thought there must be some upheaval going on with the assistants. I can't complain much as I don't live in MS anymore and don't know anyone in the know, so not like I can contribute any news.
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12-01-2025, 12:01 AM
#124

Originally Posted by
msstate7
KT's 351 total yards Friday is more than Shapen put up in his career (41 games). It was KT's first career start.
And netted 19 points. I'm going to make this very clear for the few of you that have the boner for the back up year after year. 48% completions will lead to not competing. That's called one dimensional. It will take all of 3 games before the SEC defense simply do what they do. Man up and spy the QB. And KT will not make it through the season. He got banged up in the one game he started.
I'm pulling for KT, there is what I consider a very high ceiling, and Lebby has a great history on QBs. But some times, things go wrong. So you will see Lebby pull in another QB in the portal.
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12-01-2025, 12:05 AM
#125

Originally Posted by
msstate7
The ones arguing with me saying Shapen is better also defend Lebby at every turn. Quite the pretzel they're twisting themselves into
Nobody is twisting anything. It was Lebby's decision. I got behind that. I'm not blaming Lebby for starting KT and I am not calling for his job for not starting Shapen. In short, I'm not an over the top person who gets his kicks on tearing down coaches and players.
But you do you. I'm not begrudging you that.
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12-01-2025, 12:07 AM
#126

Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
And netted 19 points. I'm going to make this very clear for the few of you that have the boner for the back up year after year. 48% completions will lead to not competing. That's called one dimensional. It will take all of 3 games before the SEC defense simply do what they do. Man up and spy the QB. And KT will not make it through the season. He got banged up in the one game he started.
I'm pulling for KT, there is what I consider a very high ceiling, and Lebby has a great history on QBs. But some times, things go wrong. So you will see Lebby pull in another QB in the portal.
It was his first game to start and it was vs a playoff team. You're an idiot if you think he's come close to capping out. Shapen capped out years ago, and it wasn't very high. We have a stud freshman qb that we should be building our program around
Last edited by msstate7; 12-01-2025 at 12:11 AM.
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12-01-2025, 12:20 AM
#127

Originally Posted by
msstate7
It was his first game to start and it was vs a playoff team. You're an idiot if you think he's come close to capping out. Shapen capped out years ago, and it wasn't very high
I don't care if it was his first or not. I don't care that is was against a play off team or not. You making excuses now? Where was your excuse for Shapen? Oh yeah.. he was not the back up.
It was made clear on here that if KT started, the results would be the same or worse. The logical reasons were given. He took as many sacks! Period. No excuses, the same average. Now, here is where we part ways. I'm not tearing KT down and calling him a statue, a loser, etc. I'm pointing out that KT suffered from the same issue that you BLAMED Shapen for. Being sacked. Let me guess... wasn't KT's fault right?
We never had a QB issue this year. We had an OL issue. And it showed up with KT too. He did not magically make those issues disappear because he ran it. It's not the way that works.
Luckily, money people saw the promise of what could have been with an OL and a DL. So we now have the money to go shopping. A better OL and we win 8+. A better DL and we take the pressure off the DBs and we win 8+.
BTW... Read what I stated again. I did not say he's capped out... LOL I clearly stated he has a high ceiling. Clearly.
Last edited by BlackSailsDawg; 12-01-2025 at 12:22 AM.
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12-01-2025, 12:44 AM
#128

Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
I don't care if it was his first or not. I don't care that is was against a play off team or not. You making excuses now? Where was your excuse for Shapen? Oh yeah.. he was not the back up.
It was made clear on here that if KT started, the results would be the same or worse. The logical reasons were given. He took as many sacks! Period. No excuses, the same average. Now, here is where we part ways. I'm not tearing KT down and calling him a statue, a loser, etc. I'm pointing out that KT suffered from the same issue that you BLAMED Shapen for. Being sacked. Let me guess... wasn't KT's fault right?
We never had a QB issue this year. We had an OL issue. And it showed up with KT too. He did not magically make those issues disappear because he ran it. It's not the way that works.
Luckily, money people saw the promise of what could have been with an OL and a DL. So we now have the money to go shopping. A better OL and we win 8+. A better DL and we take the pressure off the DBs and we win 8+.
BTW... Read what I stated again. I did not say he's capped out... LOL I clearly stated he has a high ceiling. Clearly.
Roast them!
They still can't admit that they just want a QB run around a bunch of times. Everything is an excuse. "Well his mobility means he can make the offensive line look better." It didn't. "Him running around will let the defense rest." Stupid.
And that's why the really want Dan back. Because they know he'll run KT into the ground like every other QB that Dan had too. All the while acting like a complete bitch against Alabama and Georgia. Just beat Arkansas, Kentucky, and Ole Miss and they're happy.
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12-01-2025, 12:48 AM
#129

Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
I don't care if it was his first or not. I don't care that is was against a play off team or not. You making excuses now? Where was your excuse for Shapen? Oh yeah.. he was not the back up.
It was made clear on here that if KT started, the results would be the same or worse. The logical reasons were given. He took as many sacks! Period. No excuses, the same average. Now, here is where we part ways. I'm not tearing KT down and calling him a statue, a loser, etc. I'm pointing out that KT suffered from the same issue that you BLAMED Shapen for. Being sacked. Let me guess... wasn't KT's fault right?
We never had a QB issue this year. We had an OL issue. And it showed up with KT too. He did not magically make those issues disappear because he ran it. It's not the way that works.
Luckily, money people saw the promise of what could have been with an OL and a DL. So we now have the money to go shopping. A better OL and we win 8+. A better DL and we take the pressure off the DBs and we win 8+.
BTW... Read what I stated again. I did not say he's capped out... LOL I clearly stated he has a high ceiling. Clearly.
The promise of what could have been. Bingo.
That's all that matters now. Go get some players and let's turn this thing around. Starting with Brayland Womack! That would be huge to flip him. I know he isn't a trench guy but would be a huge momentum piece to build a class around. Dorian Barney decommited from OM today. 4 star CB. I don't know if he would be an immediate impact guy or not but I think Womack will be. We just need something positive to get things rolling in the right direction.
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12-01-2025, 01:09 AM
#130
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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12-01-2025, 01:12 AM
#131
I posted what I heard and not a ******* one of yall added what you're hearing, just wishcasting and ****ing same old debates.
I don't ****ing care if you like Mullen or not. I'm telling you what I was told was discussed and is good to post here. Everyone latched onto the fact that Mullen was discussed but that ultimately Lebby is safe.
No one else confirmed it - so as of now, it doesn't have double confirmation and so I'm not running it as official news. If anyone has anything to add to rumors they are hearing about our current staffing turnover - post them here. actually no the posters who said re-do this are probably right.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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12-01-2025, 01:15 AM
#132

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Roast them!
They still can't admit that they just want a QB run around a bunch of times. Everything is an excuse. "Well his mobility means he can make the offensive line look better." It didn't. "Him running around will let the defense rest." Stupid.
And that's why the really want Dan back. Because they know he'll run KT into the ground like every other QB that Dan had too. All the while acting like a complete bitch against Alabama and Georgia. Just beat Arkansas, Kentucky, and Ole Miss and they're happy.
I'm not sure if you're referring to me or not, either way it's cool. I've made it clear I do not just want a running qb. It's not a recipe for success. I want KT to become a prolific passer. Break all the passing records.
But I also stand by his mobility as being important and a huge tool that can and needs to be utilized. As I'm sure it will be. Hurts, Newton, Tebow, Manziel, Burrow, Bennet, Lawrence.. the list can go in. All these guys had 2 things in common. They could pass #1. And 2.. they are mobile. They make things happen outside of the pocket utilizing their feet. It's not 1990 and 2000 anymore and I know you know this. But your standard sit in the pocket like a statue isn't set up for modern offenses. Teams are going to offer KT big money with a capital M because of what they see he possesses in his skill set.
That's all I'm saying man. Not trying to argue or seem like a know it all on here. I could careless if Dan comes back. And I wanna win them all.
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12-01-2025, 02:07 AM
#133

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
I'm not sure if you're referring to me or not, either way it's cool. I've made it clear I do not just want a running qb. It's not a recipe for success. I want KT to become a prolific passer. Break all the passing records.
But I also stand by his mobility as being important and a huge tool that can and needs to be utilized. As I'm sure it will be. Hurts, Newton, Tebow, Manziel, Burrow, Bennet, Lawrence.. the list can go in. All these guys had 2 things in common. They could pass #1. And 2.. they are mobile. They make things happen outside of the pocket utilizing their feet. It's not 1990 and 2000 anymore and I know you know this. But your standard sit in the pocket like a statue isn't set up for modern offenses. Teams are going to offer KT big money with a capital M because of what they see he possesses in his skill set.
That's all I'm saying man. Not trying to argue or seem like a know it all on here. I could careless if Dan comes back. And I wanna win them all.
Wasn't talking to you.
But yes, mobility is a good thing. But a QB must be able to pass #1 as you said. Some of our fans have that backwards. KT missed Thompson twice and on the drives we had to settle for field goals he missed Evans twice. If those are completed we likely end up with TD's. That cost us about 22 points (14 for the two Thompson and 8 for the two that resulted in field goals). And if my math is correct that meant we should have scored 41 points. That's the difference in being able to do one but not the other.
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12-01-2025, 07:17 AM
#134
I don?t have the sources some of you do, but I do have a guy that who told me that we were getting BOC before it ever happened. So there?s that. The same guy tells me that we have an offer in the table to Will Muschamp to be DC and are waiting on his response.
Now, my thoughts are that he?s not interested in returning to a full time coaching job yet, but that?s out there in the ether.
No. That wasn?t Bo Bounds that I got that from. It was from one of my physician colleagues who has some booster patients. FWIW.
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12-01-2025, 07:31 AM
#135
Shapen won exactly 1 sec game, and in that game KT accounted for the same amount of tds as shapen.
Sec tds this season...
Shapen 10 (283 touches) = td every 28.3 touches
KT 10* (109 touches) = td every 10.9 touches
*if you throw out stats where Shapen started the drive, this goes to...
8 TD (97 touches) = 1 td every 12.1 touches
KT is the more explosive player and it isn't even close. This is bore out in QBR.
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12-01-2025, 10:40 AM
#136

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Roast them!
They still can't admit that they just want a QB run around a bunch of times. Everything is an excuse. "Well his mobility means he can make the offensive line look better." It didn't. "Him running around will let the defense rest." Stupid.
And that's why the really want Dan back. Because they know he'll run KT into the ground like every other QB that Dan had too. All the while acting like a complete bitch against Alabama and Georgia. Just beat Arkansas, Kentucky, and Ole Miss and they're happy.
Exactly. Dan was not GREAT here at all. We had 1 10 win season. And todate had a better Rosters than Lebby. Even in the pre NIL error, he only had 1 winning season in SEC play. People want to relive that 1 season and think KT is it. It's like saying "HEY DAN!!! We found another DAK for you since YOU COULD NOT DUPLICATE IT IN ALL YOUR YEARS HERE... But We Found him.. We found him DAN! COME ON BACK!" WTH! Come on.
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12-01-2025, 10:43 AM
#137

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
The promise of what could have been. Bingo.
That's all that matters now. Go get some players and let's turn this thing around. Starting with Brayland Womack! That would be huge to flip him. I know he isn't a trench guy but would be a huge momentum piece to build a class around. Dorian Barney decommited from OM today. 4 star CB. I don't know if he would be an immediate impact guy or not but I think Womack will be. We just need something positive to get things rolling in the right direction.
Thats truth. That is all that matters at this point. But it was SHAPEN and LEBBY who did their jobs and did them well to show the money people what can..CAN be at MSU. And people trying to take a crap on that because they get weird hard ons for Dan friggin "I want out of Starkville" Mullen.
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12-01-2025, 10:52 AM
#138

Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
Thats truth. That is all that matters at this point. But it was SHAPEN and LEBBY who did their jobs and did them well to show the money people what can..CAN be at MSU. And people trying to take a crap on that because they get weird hard ons for Dan friggin "I want out of Starkville" Mullen.
Shapen and Lebby - good
KT and Mullen - bad
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12-01-2025, 10:56 AM
#139
I'm with Tater on this. If y'all want to create a megathread to reignite the Air Raid vs Ground and Pound people arguing in different form, go right ahead. But every thread doesn't have to be hijacked into the same talking points.
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12-01-2025, 10:57 AM
#140

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I'm with Tater on this. If y'all want to create a megathread to reignite the Air Raid vs Ground and Pound people arguing in different form, go right ahead. But every thread doesn't have to be hijacked into the same talking points.
Amen brother. There is a bunch of professional gaslighting going on in this garbage.
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