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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    does this take into account the two defensive scores tennessee had? or the fact that they got over 40 pts due to OT?

    i'm legitimately asking because if it does not then those numbers aren't accurate based solely on points allowed. i've been frustrated with our defense at time but overall they have played well enough for us to have two more wins.
    It does include those, which sucks for the defense, but they count against all sec teams' defensive scoring stats too.

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    Our defense has been playing hard, and they are really good in the red zone. They have gotten better at not giving in. Secondary has played best as a group I think, just need to contain Manning from getting outside and we need some turnovers on defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We're giving up 31.7 per game in conf (13th). They're avg 32.5 per game in conf (4th).

    Ark and OM are horrible matchups for us. Texas is a decent matchup, so if we want an sec win, we better cash in Saturday
    Our defense isn't. Take out the 2 defensive score and then do the math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Our defense isn't. Take out the 2 defensive score and then do the math.
    In all games, we are 11th in the SEC at 20.3 per- just .4 from being 7th due to 3 teams tied at 20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Our defense isn't. Take out the 2 defensive score and then do the math.
    Certainly not perfect, but here's the breakdown of defensive scores in conf play and possessions in OT...

    10 def scores in sec play
    12 team possessions in conf OT

    So while it isn't perfect, conf only stats has this built in for all teams

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    Probably a better judge of the defense is yds/play and/or total yds. In conf play, we've done the following...

    6.44 yds/play (15th)
    465.7 yds allowed/game (15th)

    Only ark is worse at both.

    Our saving grace is ints. We are 2nd in conf in int/game. If this keeps up, we give ourselves a chance to win despite being run through for the most part, but if they stop, close games become blow outs
    Last edited by msstate7; 10-23-2025 at 09:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I used conf only stats. We're 13th in scoring and 15th in total D. We haven't been solid. Ark and OM are 2nd and 4th in scoring, so expect similar results
    Where are you getting those stats? Mississippi is giving 30 ppg in conference games.
    State is giving up 31.6. And that's with 7 coming in OT vs TN. Take those away and we are giving up 29.3.

    I'll also add that our offense, not our defense, allowed at least 14 of those points vs TN.
    Last edited by confucius say; 10-23-2025 at 09:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Where are you getting those stats? Mississippi is giving 31.5 ppg in conference games.
    State is giving up 31.6. And that's with 7 coming in OT vs TN. Take those away and we are giving up 29.3.

    I'll also add that our offense, not our defense, allowed at least 14 of those points vs TN.
    Certainly not perfect, but here's the breakdown of defensive scores in conf play and possessions in OT...

    10 def scores in sec play
    12 team possessions in conf OT

    So while it isn't perfect, conf only stats has this built in for all teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Certainly not perfect, but here's the breakdown of defensive scores in conf play and possessions in OT...

    10 def scores in sec play
    12 team possessions in conf OT

    So while it isn't perfect, conf only stats has this built in for all teams
    But where are you seeing that Mississippi is 4th in scoring D and we are 13th? They are giving up 30 ppg in sec play to our 31.6. No way there is that big a gap over 1.6 ppg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Where are you getting those stats? Mississippi is giving 30 ppg in conference games.
    State is giving up 31.6. And that's with 7 coming in OT vs TN. Take those away and we are giving up 29.3.

    I'll also add that our offense, not our defense, allowed at least 14 of those points vs TN.



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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    But where are you seeing that Mississippi is 4th in scoring D and we are 13th? They are giving up 30 ppg in sec play to our 31.6. No way there is that big a gap over 1.6 ppg.
    Calm down, and read it again...

    We're giving up 31.7 per game in conf (13th). They're avg 32.5 per game in conf (4th).

    Ark and OM are horrible matchups for us. Texas is a decent matchup, so if we want an sec win, we better cash in Saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Calm down, and read it again...

    We're giving up 31.7 per game in conf (13th). They're avg 32.5 per game in conf (4th).

    Ark and OM are horrible matchups for us. Texas is a decent matchup, so if we want an sec win, we better cash in Saturday
    Ok. But You said "we are 13th in scoring and 15th in total D." You meant scoring D when you said "scoring."

    Then you said "Ark and OM are 2nd and 4th in scoring." Didn't know you switched to meaning scoring O instead of scoring D. Makes sense now when I read it that way.

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    Soooo...is Kiffin headed to Florida or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Ok. But You said "we are 13th in scoring and 15th in total D." You meant scoring D when you said "scoring."

    Then you said "Ark and OM are 2nd and 4th in scoring." Didn't know you switched to meaning scoring O instead of scoring D. Makes sense now when I read it that way.
    Ok, I'll calm down and type better lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    Soooo...is Kiffin headed to Florida or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Ok, I'll calm down and type better lol
    My Scott county education doesn't always keep up with the Neshoba county language

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    Well If we beat Texas, they might fire Sark on the Tarmac and McConaghay might personally fly straight to Oxford with the Texas checkbook/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    Soooo...is Kiffin headed to Florida or what?
    Soooo ...... you tryin' to hijack the hijack or what?

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    Layyyyyyyyyylaaaaaaa.....you got on my knees
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Layyyyyyyyyylaaaaaaa.....you got on my knees
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