Dawgs v Vols

[EdwardDrayton]

1:1. 2:1. 1:2. Doesn't matter. We're close. Two more. Just win.

[Thick]

So when a team blows coverage he has the wherewithal to take advantage of the mistake. Congrats. He is a FBS QB. No one is saying that RIGHT NOW Shapen is not the better QB. But if you are going to win 5 anyways, you are not going to the playoffs, and you have what most believe to be the QB of the future right there you take your lumps and play him. He is going to make some mistakes? Yep. Is he going to be perfect? Nope. But he will not take away anything from the offense and he gives you a legit dual threat guy.

Yeah right! He?s from Macon, MS. Played in a low level, low football IQ conference, and he?s going to step in and be ?somewhat? productive in the best collegiate conference in the country vs the best DC?s in NCAA football. Tell me how much it cost to go to Starkville for a football weekend. Nobody?s willing to waste their money on a ?freshman experiment? in the NIL era! We would have lost by 3 TD?s with him running the offense tonight. MS high school football is not a spring board for players to start their freshman year in this conference! There?s absolutely no one you can use as an example at the QB position to make that argument! Dak was not ready as freshman, neither was Tebow.

[Thick]

KT wouldn't have done worse. Shapen spotted them 14 points and couldn't make the plays he wanted with his feet. Shapen isn't throwing anyone open and is only throwing to wide open guys. Lebby does a fabulous jobs of putting defenses into a crisis and man coverage. I honestly think KT would produce similar results with this scheme.

If that were true, then wouldn?t Lebby start KT?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah right! He?s from Macon, MS. Played in a low level, low football IQ conference, and he?s going to step in and be ?somewhat? productive in the best collegiate conference in the country vs the best DC?s in NCAA football. Tell me how much it cost to go to Starkville for a football weekend. Nobody?s willing to waste their money on a ?freshman experiment? in the NIL era! We would have lost by 3 TD?s with him running the offense tonight. MS high school football is not a spring board for players to start their freshman year in this conference! There?s absolutely no one you can use as an example at the QB position to make that argument! Dak was not ready as freshman, neither was Tebow.

Well then let’s just send him down the river. Obviously he will have to drop down a level, probably 2-3, since he sucks and would never improve with playing time.

[Thick]

KT wouldn't have done worse. Shapen spotted them 14 points and couldn't make the plays he wanted with his feet. Shapen isn't throwing anyone open and is only throwing to wide open guys. Lebby does a fabulous jobs of putting defenses into a crisis and man coverage. I honestly think KT would produce similar results with this scheme.

Do you really think a kid from Noxubee county that is by far the best athlete on the field on any given night can step on an SEC field and produce wins in this conference as the leader of the offense??? The game is so much faster and physical than playing MS high school football, it?s not even comparable. KT has got the POTENTIAL to be good, maybe great (at MSU), but he?s not mentally capable of leading an SEC team his true freshman year. All it takes is one solid hit, and he?s questioning his abilities. It?s maturity first, athleticism and God?s gift come in second!

[Thick]

Well then let’s just send him down the river. Obviously he will have to drop down a level, probably 2-3, since he sucks and would never improve with playing time.

You just don?t get it bc you?ve never played at that level. A HS qb can read coverages somewhat at a high school level, but SEC is way different. It?s not even comparable. I like your informational posts, but REAL football posts are not your forte. Start KT vs FL, aTm, GA, OM, Texas and guess what, everyone of you on this board will throwing his ass under the bus for bad decisions/results. MS high school football is not going to prepare ANY qb to be be a starter as a true freshman?.PERIOD!!!! You can?t win that argument EVER! The only thing you will win is the bitchfest that will follow!

[Thick]

Let?s be clear as well, Shapen is not quick making decisions, but his experience at this level makes a difference. KT is used to getting hit by smaller less physical players in high school. When he tucks it and runs, then gets lit up a few times by some grown ass men in the SEC. That ?scrambling/making things happen with his feet? will be tempered down a bit, especially if he realizes that he doesn?t like being hit by more physical defenders. The mental/physical aspect of playing in the SEC is real, and it can ruin a player.

[LC Dawg]

Quick question for the board. Did you see the amount of orange on the east side of DWS? It looked like a neutral site game. What are we doing with ticket sales? You want?em, we sell them to you. Way too many visitors in our house! That crap needs to stop. Don?t know how, but it needs to be addressed asap!

I sit in Section 19 and there was way too much orange and I hear the upper deck was much worse. I hope the State fans that sold them their tickets choke on the money.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Let?s be clear as well, Shapen is not quick making decisions, but his experience at this level makes a difference. KT is used to getting hit by smaller less physical players in high school. When he tucks it and runs, then gets lit up a few times by some grown ass men in the SEC. That ?scrambling/making things happen with his feet? will be tempered down a bit, especially if he realizes that he doesn?t like being hit by more physical defenders. The mental/physical aspect of playing in the SEC is real, and it can ruin a player.

No one is saying that Kamario is better than Blake right now, at least I have not seen it. What most are saying is that you are winning 5 regardless because Parker Puckett could start against Arky and just hand the ball off and we would win. So why not give Kamario the reps now and get him ready to go next year. And hell, you may steal 1-2 because no one has any film on him. Are we going to take our lumps? Yes. But guess what, we are going to take them with Blake too.

[Thick]

I sit in Section 19 and there was way too much orange and I hear the upper deck was much worse. I hope the State fans that sold them their tickets choke on the money.

Watch the play back if you get a chance. Lots of orange on the east side?..everywhere!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Watch the play back if you get a chance. Lots of orange on the east side?..everywhere!

Tennessee fans had us outnumbered 55:45 unfortunately. The East side was 75:25 UT fans.

[tcdog70]

The only time MSU ever beat a #1 team , we did it with a Freshman QB.there is nothing Shapen can do that Kamario can’t do better.

[Thick]

No one is saying that Kamario is better than Blake right now, at least I have not seen it. What most are saying is that you are winning 5 regardless because Parker Puckett could start against Arky and just hand the ball off and we would win. So why not give Kamario the reps now and get him ready to go next year. And hell, you may steal 1-2 because no one has any film on him. Are we going to take our lumps? Yes. But guess what, we are going to take them with Blake too.

Nobody wants to spend the weekend in Starkville for a freaking freshman experiment when the portal is available for immediate ROI. Jesus, where in the 17 have you been lately? ?It?s not what can you do for me in the future, it?s what can you do for me NOW!!? Nobody wants to drop a grand a weekend for football/baseball for future gains. They want immediate ROI. Welcome to collegiate sports!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nobody wants to spend the weekend in Starkville for a freaking freshman experiment when the portal is available for immediate ROI. Jesus, where in the 17 have you been lately? ?It?s not what can you do for me in the future, it?s what can you do for me NOW!!? Nobody wants to drop a grand a weekend for football/baseball for future gains. They want immediate ROI. Welcome to collegiate sports!

No one wants to drop a grand to lose with Shapen either. It least with Taylor we can sell hope.

[parabrave]

The only time MSU ever beat a #1 team , we did it with a Freshman QB.there is nothing Shapen can do that Kamario can’t do better.

Also had 3 future NFLers on the team with one of our best defenses ever.

[Todd4State]

It is deep ball or check down for Shapen. He was 18/29 for 180 yds today. And if you take away the one deep ball to Ayden he is 17/28 for 131.

Well with KT you can take away the other 28 attempts because they would all be scrambles.

[Todd4State]

The only time MSU ever beat a #1 team , we did it with a Freshman QB.there is nothing Shapen can do that Kamario can’t do better.

Yeah. In 1980.

[Todd4State]

No one wants to drop a grand to lose with Shapen either. It least with Taylor we can sell hope.

No. What will happen is he will look lost and lose more games. And then fans will start to say that he is a bust.

I've seen this story play out time and time again for MSU football.

Except for Dak who we redshirted first. And then he was the back up for year and a half or so. And then he started.

Hell the two turnovers weren't even his fault. Why not bench West who has at least one major **** up a game at TE? He should have caught that pass that was picked. And why not bench the tackle that got worked when Shapen fumbled?

[Bothrops]

Quick question for the board. Did you see the amount of orange on the east side of DWS? It looked like a neutral site game. What are we doing with ticket sales? You want?em, we sell them to you. Way too many visitors in our house! That crap needs to stop. Don?t know how, but it needs to be addressed asap!

They brought about 12-13,000 fans from the looks of it. Our fan base is smaller than it was 10 years ago.

[Todd4State]

They brought about 12-13,000 fans from the looks of it. Our fan base is smaller than it was 10 years ago.

This is a major issue. I don't know what we can do about it though.