Bo Bounds Dropping Some Moorhead Era Rumors

[Pancho]

bounds is full o crap

[PGHBulldogBG]

We got great publicity with the Moorhead hire. Just about every journalist thought he was an A to A+ hire. Most thought he was the next great offensive mind. A lot of people were fooled.

They clearly weren?t from PA because we all knew up here he was a joke. PSU fans all around here were thanking me for our staff taking him for underachieving with the talent level they had. I knew it was a disaster from day 1

[HoopsDawg]

They clearly weren?t from PA because we all knew up here he was a joke. PSU fans all around here were thanking me for our staff taking him for underachieving with the talent level they had. I knew it was a disaster from day 1

Croom had Barry, Joe had Saquon. A lot of similarities with those 2.

Worst hire in MSU history. Thanks Cohen.

[Cooterpoot]

Moorhead was the guy everyone thought would excel as a head coach, and he just didn?t. It stunk for us, but it was the right move then.

The man basically got fired at his last two HC jobs before coming here. He had success at one little school. It was an awful hire!

[viverlibre]

Croom had Barry, Joe had Saquon. A lot of similarities with those 2.

Worst hire in MSU history. Thanks Cohen.

Yuup, SloMo rode Saquon, the best player in college at the time, onto a head coaching job and many millions of dollars.

[TrapGame]

They clearly weren?t from PA because we all knew up here he was a joke. PSU fans all around here were thanking me for our staff taking him for underachieving with the talent level they had. I knew it was a disaster from day 1

Yeah, I know a Penn State alum with some strong ties. He told me Franklin let Moorhead run the offense his first year. Five games in and it was an absolute shit show. So, Franklin told Joe to pick his best ten plays and that's all he could call the entire game. Saquon made Joe look like an offensive guru.

[Todd4State]

In hindsight we should have hired a coach that ran an offense similar to Dan's that fit Fitzgerald or gone ahead and hired Leach and brought in Gardner Minchew and allowed Nick to transfer out.

[Todd4State]

Croom had Barry, Joe had Saquon. A lot of similarities with those 2.

Worst hire in MSU history. Thanks Cohen.

I think Croom was actually better.

[TrapGame]

I can see why Bert didnt get the job- he had just failed at UPig

And he left them in really bad shape.

Oh, it got even better.

Bo said Arkansas should have kept Fat Bert. He thought they were idiots for firing him b/c it led to Chad Morris.

Bert tried to turn Arkansas into Wisconsin. It didn't work.

[Coach34]

Bert is a good coach- it just didnt work at UPig. He went and did a year with Belichek and it helped him. He is doing a great job at Illinois right now

Could it translate down South? Not sure

[viverlibre]

In hindsight we should have hired a coach that ran an offense similar to Dan's that fit Fitzgerald

Funny how we made that mistake in two of three hires. Have an offense that works, with experienced returning players and aren't a fit for the offense the coach you want to hire runs? Hire that man. When Dan left, how easy would it have been to hire a spread option coach who runs a very similar scheme?

[Todd4State]

Oh, it got even better.

Bo said Arkansas should have kept Fat Bert. He thought they were idiots for firing him b/c it led to Chad Morris.

Bert tried to turn Arkansas into Wisconsin. It didn't work.

Hard to believe someone can get a sports talk show with takes like that. Keeping him would have simply meant that Bert would have run them in the ground instead of Morris.

[Todd4State]

Funny how we made that mistake in two of three hires. Have an offense that works, with experienced returning players and aren't a fit for the offense the coach you want to hire runs? Hire that man. When Dan left, how easy would it have been to hire a spread option coach who runs a very similar scheme?

It would have been probably fairly easy to find someone like a Charlie Strong or Gary Andersen looking at the Urban Meyer tree. Probably could have gotten Rich Rodriguez although he was fired for extramarital issues and Cohen wasn't going there after Cann.

Arnett was fired in part for lying about what we were going to do on offense if the rumors are true. That included misleading people like Keenum who wanted to keep a version of the Air Raid to fit the personnel Leach had recruited. So if that's true at least MSU learned their lesson.

[SPMT]

Heavily disagree. There were plenty other more qualified candidates that would have taken the job had Cohen actually reached out to them.

Do you know for a fact he didn?t reach out to those candidates?

[SPMT]

Funny how we made that mistake in two of three hires. Have an offense that works, with experienced returning players and aren't a fit for the offense the coach you want to hire runs? Hire that man. When Dan left, how easy would it have been to hire a spread option coach who runs a very similar scheme?

FACT!

[viverlibre]

Arnett was fired in part for lying about what we were going to do on offense if the rumors are true. That included misleading people like Keenum who wanted to keep a version of the Air Raid to fit the personnel Leach had recruited. So if that's true at least MSU learned their lesson.

Yuup, as soon as Keenum saw that Arnept was firing the air raid coaches, he should have jumped in immediately.

[HoopsDawg]

I think Croom was actually better.

Oh I agree

[msu15]

Do you know for a fact he didn?t reach out to those candidates?

Absolutely. Leach would've taken it for one. His agent was the one that reached out to Cohen in 2020. Mike wasn't even on Cohen's radar after he got caught with his pants down when Keenum vetoed Sark.

[TrapGame]

Bert is a good coach- it just didnt work at UPig. He went and did a year with Belichek and it helped him. He is doing a great job at Illinois right now

Could it translate down South? Not sure

Bert is a prototypical Big10 coach in my opinion. Illinois is heaven for him. He can keep the Illinois talent that would normally go to Wisconsin or Minnesota.

[Pancho]

According to Altmyer, the Illini players don't care for berts personality but say he does know what he's doing and he will continue to win there.