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    Bo Bounds Dropping Some Moorhead Era Rumors

    Bo just decides to throw out there today that supposedly Manny Diaz, Brett Bilema and Jon Sumrall were all interested in the HC job in 2018.

    He was talking about DCs being head coaches and MSU going the OC route since Mullen. Then he decides to drop that on air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Bo just decides to throw out there today that supposedly Manny Diaz, Brett Bilema and Jon Sumrall were all interested in the HC job in 2018.

    He was talking about DCs being head coaches and MSU going the OC route since Mullen. Then he decides to drop that on air.
    Jon Sumrall was a linebackers coach in 2018 with no head coaching expiereince at all. Why would Bo think any SEC school would consider him as a HC candiate at that point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    Jon Sumrall was a linebackers coach in 2018 with no head coaching expiereince at all. Why would Bo think any SEC school would consider him as a HC candiate at that point?
    Although not enough data at the time for Sumrall, Moorhead was not a HC , well other than Furman.
    Manny and Bert would have easily taken that team to a better season .

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    I dunno. Bounds is pretty well connected with Dave Bartoo who seems to be in on all the coaching rumors and hirings.

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    Moorhead was the guy everyone thought would excel as a head coach, and he just didn?t. It stunk for us, but it was the right move then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Although not enough data at the time for Sumrall, Moorhead was not a HC , well other than Furman.
    Manny and Bert would have easily taken that team to a better season .
    I can see Manny and certainly Bert as real candidates. But acting like skipping on Jon Sumrall, a 35 year old position coach with no head coaching experience at all, is just crazy talk. Don't get me wrong, we've made some dumb decisions but I can't blame anyone who might have passed on that resume at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    Moorhead was the guy everyone thought would excel as a head coach, and he just didn?t. It stunk for us, but it was the right move then.
    Not to beat a dead horse but Moorhead is a bullshit specialist. He backed a dump truck full of manure on Cohen and Cohen bought it. We actually cancelled the other coach interviews after Cohen met with Moorhead. That's asinine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    I can see Manny and certainly Bert as real candidates. But acting like skipping on Jon Sumrall, a 35 year old position coach with no head coaching experience at all, is just crazy talk. Don't get me wrong, we've made some dumb decisions but I can't blame anyone who might have passed on that resume at the time.
    Agree.
    But dang Manny or Bert with that defense that year... Geeze. Really, Manny would have been a terror on teams with that defense.
    Thankful though we had an AD smarter than anyone I have ever known, that we pulled from somewhere with plenty of hiring experience and AD marketing ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Not to beat a dead horse but Moorhead is a bullshit specialist. He backed a dump truck full of manure on Cohen and Cohen bought it. We actually cancelled the other coach interviews after Cohen met with Moorhead. That's asinine.
    That's why "winning the press conference" is so overrated and probably part of the reason we went in the completely opposite direction with the Leach hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    but it was the right move then.
    Heavily disagree. There were plenty other more qualified candidates that would have taken the job had Cohen actually reached out to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Agree.
    But dang Manny or Bert with that defense that year... Geeze. Really, Manny would have been a terror on teams with that defense.
    Thankful though we had an AD smarter than anyone I have ever known, that we pulled from somewhere with plenty of hiring experience and AD marketing ***
    Not saying Cohen was a good AD and made good choices but with great D returning and hiring the OC coach of the year with Fitz returning, that at the time felt like a great move.

    You just never know.

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    Bert with that 2018 team is intriguing.

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    I can see why Bert didnt get the job- he had just failed at UPig
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    We got great publicity with the Moorhead hire. Just about every journalist thought he was an A to A+ hire. Most thought he was the next great offensive mind. A lot of people were fooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I can see why Bert didnt get the job- he had just failed at UPig
    And he left them in really bad shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Bo just decides to throw out there today that supposedly Manny Diaz, Brett Bilema and Jon Sumrall were all interested in the HC job in 2018.

    He was talking about DCs being head coaches and MSU going the OC route since Mullen. Then he decides to drop that on air.
    There's a difference between "they're interested" and "got an interview."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Istvan Teleky View Post
    I dunno. Bounds is pretty well connected with Dave Bartoo who seems to be in on all the coaching rumors and hirings.
    And to show you how big of an idiot Bartoo is?he graded the Barbay hire for Arnett an A plus. Why? Because he consulted Arnett and Brad on the OC hire.. guy is a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by BankerDog View Post
    And to show you how big of an idiot Bartoo is?he graded the Barbay hire for Arnett an A plus. Why? Because he consulted Arnett and Brad on the OC hire.. guy is a joke
    The fact that they listened to Dave Bartoo shows you how big of an idiot Arnett and Brad Perterson were.

    I guess the "matrix" didn't account for the head coach taking over the offense midseason?**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I can see why Bert didnt get the job- he had just failed at UPig
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    And he left them in really bad shape.
    Yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    We got great publicity with the Moorhead hire. Just about every journalist thought he was an A to A+ hire. Most thought he was the next great offensive mind. A lot of people were fooled.
    Yep Yep.

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