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[The Federalist Engineer]

but my response is that Holman is not an option- so landing a 3-hole hitter to give us what could be the SEC's best hitting line-up is a big damn deal.

We have 5 arms competing for 3 weekend spots. I feel like we'll be fine. aGAIN- nobody expected Holman to be what he was this past season after his freshman season.

Tennessee's best SP didnt even pitch in 2022
SC's best threw 7 innings in 2022
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Every pitcher in the SEC top 15 in ERA improved from the year before. Ours will too

Everything in this message is why Justin Parker is so key and Fox so bad. People are supposed to get better with time in the program.

In 2022, no returned pitcher improved year-over-year from 2021. MSU had more than 1/2 the pitchers with double-digit ERAs in the SEC.

(1) Cade was good, but he came good. MSU in past years, would have turned him into a 1st or 2nd round pick.
(2) KC Hunt was pitching like a 4th year Freshman
(3) Stinnett was pitching like a Hockey-Player turned pitcher
(4) Gartman went from a decent Memphis pitcher to a well below average (not a 2021 roster player)
(5) Davis went from starting on Friday night regionals to being useless (not a 2021 roster player)
(6) Tepper and Fristoe basically fired Lemons and Fox by leaving the program. They were on steep decline. Tepper became good for Liberty, got drafted mid-round.

In 2021, the injuries were so devastating because nobody was ready to replace Landon, even partially.

[Really Clark?]

I don't believe they paid him 500k.skenes was like 150k, Tommy Tanks like 250k. Both are better than Montgomery. I don't believe the NIL market for Baseball has changed quite that fast that's its comparable to high end football transfers. It also doesn't make sense to throw 500k at an OF when they weren't throwing that at Burns, Holman, Molina, or any of these pitchers who absolutely would help them more than a bat. Like why obly throw money at Poral players now? And why is BM the one they're obsessed with?

No, my guess is that some on the State side would rather the narrative be "we can't compete with that insane money" than the truth, which is "Montgomery, despight all his ties to State, doesn't want to play for us because he wants to win"

Believe what you want, the money is high but no one is saying we can't compete. We are more than competing for BM with NIL. If we lose him it WILL NOT be because we couldn't afford him. Not sure who told you that or if you are just speculating.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Believe what you want, the money is high but no one is saying we can't compete. We are more than competing for BM with NIL. If we lose him it WILL NOT be because we couldn't afford him. Not sure who told you that or if you are just speculating.

To be clear I'm 100% speculating, but it's based on factual data oh what NIL baseball players are getting and what's in A&Ms best interest.

I claim no special knowledge and I'm not saying we AREN'T "competitive" our baseball NIL is fine, especially because we haven't gotten anyone to pay yet and blow the budget. I'm saying I do NOT believe he's going to 500k. That number seems like BS to defend Lemo for not landing BM.

Regarding "insider info", I think it's pretty clear at this point that said insider info is BS often as not. "Silent commits" etc.

[Homedawg]

To be clear I'm 100% speculating, but it's based on factual data oh what NIL baseball players are getting and what's in A&Ms best interest.

I claim no special knowledge and I'm not saying we AREN'T "competitive" our baseball NIL is fine, especially because we haven't gotten anyone to pay yet and blow the budget. I'm saying I do NOT believe he's going to 500k. That number seems like BS to defend Lemo for not landing BM.

Regarding "insider info", I think it's pretty clear at this point that said insider info is BS often as not. "Silent commits" etc.

So you say you don't know what you're talking about and you're guessing. Which you are. Stop w that and quit arguing on something you admittedly know nothing about!! .....You don't have a clue. Not one !!! You're arguing to argue. He didn't give an exact number Braden is getting. But it's plenty, unless he goes back to Stanford.

[KOdawg1]

Braden has people pulling him different ways, but unless something changes, it won't be us. Which sucks because this was a battle we couldn't and shouldn't lose.

NIL isn't a major factor, as we can match or exceed anything he'd get from anywhere else. I firmly believe it's the state of our program right now. We've been at the bottom of the league for two years and while Parker should help improve our pitching, we didn't bring in much in terms of impact arms from the portal, so how much our pitching can improve is very much in the air. Another factor is that I think he just might like A&M better. Which isn't an excuse. As a coach on the hot seat, you've got to do whatever it takes to win this battle, but it appears it's one he's going to lose.

I selfishly hope he returns to Stanford so we don't have to face him.

[BigDawg81]

Let me get this story straight.., BM took a surprise visit to Texas A&M and people lose their minds including our ? insiders?. Insiders says that BM is going to Texas A&M but BM has not made a decision. So, nobody knows anything still.

[Cowbell]

Let me get this story straight.., BM took a surprise visit to Texas A&M and people lose their minds including our ? insiders?. Insiders says that BM is going to Texas A&M but BM has not made a decision. So, nobody knows anything still.

But but Steve said....

[BigDawg81]

But but Steve said....

Steve does not know jack. He speaks to his audience where it is factual or not. I was really surprised that he said A&M

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

So you say you don't know what you're talking about and you're guessing. Which you are. Stop w that and quit arguing on something you admittedly know nothing about!! .....You don't have a clue. Not one !!! You're arguing to argue. He didn't give an exact number Braden is getting. But it's plenty, unless he goes back to Stanford.

I never claimed to be spitting facts or insider info, I said I don't believe he was ever offered 500k by A&M. That's a ridiculous number that makes no sense for them to do. It seems like you're thinking I was bashing our own NIL but that's not what I was saying

BUT, if you want to call out people who "dont have a clue", there's a whoooooole lot of big talk in some earlier pages. Might want to start there

[Homedawg]

I never claimed to be spitting facts or insider info, I said I don't believe he was ever offered 500k by A&M. That's a ridiculous number that makes no sense for them to do. It seems like you're thinking I was bashing our own NIL but that's not what I was saying

BUT, if you want to call out people who "dont have a clue", there's a whoooooole lot of big talk in some earlier pages. Might want to start there

Call me out whenever you like. We didn't and aren't getting beat by nil. Just facts.

[basedog]

Call me out whenever you like. We didn't and aren't getting beat by nil. Just facts.

I don’t think it’s the NIL as a problem for us getting Montgomery either. Like I’ve said several times, I hope we get him.

[TNDawg35]

Let me get this story straight.., BM took a surprise visit to Texas A&M and people lose their minds including our ? insiders?. Insiders says that BM is going to Texas A&M but BM has not made a decision. So, nobody knows anything still.

Exactly what I said above and then people started saying no it’s cause he doesn’t want to be here cause he hasn’t committed to us yet blah blah blah… BM may go to A&M, but no one knows what he is doing right now… Especially not SR…

[Todd4State]

Exactly what I said above and then people started saying no it’s cause he doesn’t want to be here cause he hasn’t committed to us yet blah blah blah… BM may go to A&M, but no one knows what he is doing right now… Especially not SR…

I'm pretty sure we're still recruiting him as hard as we can.

[Todd4State]

I don't believe they paid him 500k.skenes was like 150k, Tommy Tanks like 250k. Both are better than Montgomery. I don't believe the NIL market for Baseball has changed quite that fast that's its comparable to high end football transfers. It also doesn't make sense to throw 500k at an OF when they weren't throwing that at Burns, Holman, Molina, or any of these pitchers who absolutely would help them more than a bat. Like why obly throw money at Poral players now? And why is BM the one they're obsessed with?

No, my guess is that some on the State side would rather the narrative be "we can't compete with that insane money" than the truth, which is "Montgomery, despight all his ties to State, doesn't want to play for us because he wants to win"

I know some LSU people that would know. And yes they paid Crews 500K. Why I'm not sure- he may have threatened to leave or something. Their players are not immune from being recruited like anyone else. Skenes got 250K. Gave it all to charity.

[Pancho]

sounds like the common denominator in the BM decision boils down to how impressed he is with Lemo............But we all knew that, right? Hence, he gets another year on the nice bucket

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I know some LSU people that would know. And yes they paid Crews 500K. Why I'm not sure- he may have threatened to leave or something. Their players are not immune from being recruited like anyone else. Skenes got 250K. Gave it all to charity.

Maybe I'm way off, but I've heard LSU fans give much lower numbers. It doesn't really matter. I'm sure our NIL offer to BM is plenty good and if he wanted to play for us he'd be in the boat by now

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Call me out whenever you like. We didn't and aren't getting beat by nil. Just facts.

Thats literally what I was saying!

I never said our NIL was being beaten. I was saying I don't think A&M is offering 500k and that that number is being floated to hide that we did make a comparable NIL offer and BM still chose to not play here.

I don't know why you keep acting like I'm trashing our NIL.

[Really Clark?]

Thats literally what I was saying!

I never said our NIL was being beaten. I was saying I don't think A&M is offering 500k and that that number is being floated to hide that we did make a comparable NIL offer and BM still chose to not play here.

I don't know why you keep acting like I'm trashing our NIL.

The number being offered to BM is closer to $500K than $250K. Believe it or not, that's his neighborhood. But he wouldn't mind going back to Stanford either which has pennies in NIL to offer. So TAM and us could lose out with substantially larger packages. It's just a matter of what BM wants to do. His family wants him closer, there is one pushing for a large payout (not BM or his mom)...it's a complicated deal all around.

[PMDawg]

So you say you don't know what you're talking about and you're guessing. Which you are. Stop w that and quit arguing on something you admittedly know nothing about!! .....You don't have a clue. Not one !!! You're arguing to argue. He didn't give an exact number Braden is getting. But it's plenty, unless he goes back to Stanford.

Must spread rep around. That dude just spews random crap like a machine gun, and never says anything...just says everyone else is wrong.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Must spread rep around. That dude just spews random crap like a machine gun, and never says anything...just says everyone else is wrong.

I do say others are wrong... when I think they're wrong. In this thread alone I've brought stats from State, "SEC only" data, season long SEC data, Stanford, Arizona, Miami, Purdue, LSU, Arkansas, and Auburn. I've looked up rosters from '22 to discuss the type of transfers other SEC schools get. All to arguebwhat I truly believe to be the truth. Am I wrong some? Absolutely. And I admit it when proven to be unlike many on here.

Would you prefer me if I claimed to have insider info and that we had some huge Portal names secretly commited? Cause unlike me using stats to build an argument, that actually is "spewing crap"