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08-07-2023, 11:02 AM
#1501

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
The number being offered to BM is closer to $500K than $250K. Believe it or not, that's his neighborhood. But he wouldn't mind going back to Stanford either which has pennies in NIL to offer. So TAM and us could lose out with substantially larger packages. It's just a matter of what BM wants to do. His family wants him closer, there is one pushing for a large payout (not BM or his mom)...it's a complicated deal all around.
At least MSU is not making this cheap for TAM.
This is money TAM would put into 2-or-3 4-Star OTs for the Football team.
This will also force TAM to pay Laviolette some big money or the locker room implodes.
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08-07-2023, 11:58 AM
#1502
Aggie isn't the only sec school that was willing to pay 500k, allegedly.
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08-07-2023, 04:56 PM
#1503
If Lemonis whiffs on this guy after whiffing on Holman, it is a really bad look. But, it is a whole new level of bad to be leaving hundreds of thousands of NIL on the table after all the fuss about our fans not contributing earlier and more aggressively. We have heard repeatedly that we could be competitive with anyone in baseball NIL, but the results do not reflect that.
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08-07-2023, 05:00 PM
#1504

Originally Posted by
bulldogcountry1
If Lemonis whiffs on this guy after whiffing on Holman, it is a really bad look. But, it is a whole new level of bad to be leaving hundreds of thousands of NIL on the table after all the fuss about our fans not contributing earlier and more aggressively. We have heard repeatedly that we could be competitive with anyone in baseball NIL, but the results do not reflect that.
That's what happens when you keep a coach that's heading out the door. I think everyone saw this coming. Like it was mentioned above, the pitching coach search was just another sign of how we should have just moved on. I hope that we're wrong
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08-07-2023, 07:34 PM
#1505
At this point, our hope rests solely on Justin Parker.
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08-07-2023, 07:45 PM
#1506
MSU will be fine. No pitching and no additional help offensively. I see this team making it to Omaha. - Todd
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08-07-2023, 07:53 PM
#1507

Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
At this point, our hope rests solely on Justin Parker.
Amen to that
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08-07-2023, 07:58 PM
#1508
Just out of curiosity I pulled up the final rankings from D1Baseball. The usual suspects come in at the top 7: LSU, UF, Wake, Stanford, TCU, UVA, UT....but then there is Oral Roberts at 8, USM at 9, Indiana State at 11, Duke at 15, Kentucky at 17, Costal Carolina at 21, Campbell at 22, East Carolina at 24 and Dallas Baptist rounds out the top 25. Now, most of these are not Johnny-come-lately programs. They have been hanging around the top tier of collegiate baseball for a while now. And that is the rub. If most of those from 8 down to 25, including Wake, were just showing up for the first time and it was some kind of anomaly for just this year it may be different. But I will be damned if our program should be sitting in its present state with all those programs mentioned sitting where they presently reside. It is total BS. At first I was not too torqued out of shape about keeping Lemonis around and felt like he would pull it together in the offseason with portal work. It is looking MUCH less promising now than it ever did.
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08-07-2023, 08:04 PM
#1509
The best bet is to go all in with Jans and the basketball program. There isn?t any sense in drowning in sadness with the baseball program.
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08-07-2023, 08:13 PM
#1510

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
The best bet is to go all in with Jans and the basketball program. There isn?t any sense in drowning in sadness with the baseball program.
^^^
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08-07-2023, 09:27 PM
#1511
NIL ain't the issue, the stadium and facilities ain't the issue........only 1 dull reason why MSU can't attract a top tier portal player
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08-07-2023, 09:41 PM
#1512

Originally Posted by
bulldogcountry1
If Lemonis whiffs on this guy after whiffing on Holman, it is a really bad look. But, it is a whole new level of bad to be leaving hundreds of thousands of NIL on the table after all the fuss about our fans not contributing earlier and more aggressively. We have heard repeatedly that we could be competitive with anyone in baseball NIL, but the results do not reflect that.
Look, we didn't lose him bc of Lem, we didn't lose him bc of the staff, we didn't lose him bc of nil. Kid just didn't want to be in state. We were led to believe otherwise for a while. Is what it is.....
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08-07-2023, 09:43 PM
#1513

Originally Posted by
msstate7
^^^
Coming from the guy who adamantly wanted Jans fired 5 games into conference. Board is full of them.
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08-07-2023, 09:43 PM
#1514

Originally Posted by
Pancho
NIL ain't the issue, the stadium and facilities ain't the issue........only 1 dull reason why MSU can't attract a top tier portal player
So answer the big mystery:
Lemon has signed B2B Top 10 recruiting classes. Why is he not "dull" then? I agree 100% his portal recruiting has been sub-par but cant understand how he is able to sign top classes regularly
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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08-07-2023, 09:44 PM
#1515

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Look, we didn't lose him bc of Lem, we didn't lose him bc of the staff, we didn't lose him bc of nil. Kid just didn't want to be in state. We were led to believe otherwise for a while. Is what it is.....
This^^^. Hell the family was looking at houses in Starkville and had contacted Starkville Academy for the younger. Every indication people had from the family and sources within the group pointed to him coming...he just didn't get the memo.
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08-07-2023, 09:44 PM
#1516

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Coming from the guy who adamantly wanted Jans fired 5 games into conference. Board is full of them.
He proved me wrong.
Lemonis is proving me right like Moorhead
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08-07-2023, 09:45 PM
#1517

Originally Posted by
Pancho
NIL ain't the issue, the stadium and facilities ain't the issue........only 1 dull reason why MSU can't attract a top tier portal player
Again, in this case, at least, you'd be wrong. The staff had a blowout great meeting w him at the cape. He never wanted to come here. It became apparent. BM was appeasing people. Then BM finally won
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08-07-2023, 09:46 PM
#1518

Originally Posted by
msstate7
He proved me wrong.
Lemonis is proving me right like Moorhead
I won't argue w that.
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08-07-2023, 09:48 PM
#1519

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Again, in this case, at least, you'd be wrong. The staff had a blowout great meeting w him at the cape. He never wanted to come here. It became apparent. BM was appeasing people. Then BM finally won
If he never wanted to come here, maybe they shoulda moved on to someone who did.
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08-07-2023, 09:51 PM
#1520

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Again, in this case, at least, you'd be wrong. The staff had a blowout great meeting w him at the cape. He never wanted to come here. It became apparent. BM was appeasing people. Then BM finally won
Not just BM. I'm referring to the glaring reason and the only reason any top portal guys lose interest in MSU. There is just 1 reason and said reason sits on the bucket.
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