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03-18-2014, 02:44 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
TexasDawg
Do you still believe Ray gets a 4th year no matter what? Or do you want him gone if he shits the bed?
My hope is that a hire of this magnitude puts pressure on the other SEC teams to get more serious about basketball. Stricklin needs to make a big splash if Ray falls flat on his face next season. Of course with the way the SEC is ruining coaching careers this may be Pearl's last gig.
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03-18-2014, 02:54 PM
#102
Senior Member
I think Scott was only offering Prohm maybe 1.2-1.3 mil. That would be easy for anyone to turn down.
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03-18-2014, 02:57 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
Coach34
I havent really seen anybody argue different. When we were having problems making a hire- we should have upped the ante
My biggest contention though is that Ray cant adequately be judged yet. He is on the clock now- it's time for him to, as Crooms said "be good or be gone". Ray needs to start winning games now- rebuilding and culture changing is over
Dadblamit I agree, but just hate like shit that we are in this situation and that prudence tells us we have to wait for the conclusion that most of figure is going to happen. Only two people are to blame for the situation that we are in but its the fans that are paying for this.
Keenum"s and Stricklin"s mindset in keeping Bracky is telling to me as how they perceive our athletic dept should function.
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03-18-2014, 03:00 PM
#104
While at it, the Bruce Pearl hire might just jar people into realizing just how stupid Keenum and Stricklin were in the hiring of Ray. May be a ray of sunshine in that afterall, no pun intended,.
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03-18-2014, 03:10 PM
#105

Originally Posted by
shannondawg
While at it, the Bruce Pearl hire might just jar people into realizing just how stupid Keenum and Stricklin were in the hiring of Ray. May be a ray of sunshine in that afterall, no pun intended,.
If three shit years in basketball awards us upgrades in four very high positions at MSU I can temper my disgust. We've got a better chance of landing Malik Newman than that actually happening though.
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03-18-2014, 03:17 PM
#106

Originally Posted by
TexasDawg
Do you still believe Ray gets a 4th year no matter what? Or do you want him gone if he shits the bed?
Everything I hear is he gets a 4th year unless we are some kind of terrible
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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03-18-2014, 03:21 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Everything I hear is he gets a 4th year unless we are some kind of terrible
We are some kind of terrible.
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03-18-2014, 03:24 PM
#108

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
We are some kind of terrible.
but we wont be this bad again next year
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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03-18-2014, 03:33 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
Coach34
but we wont be this bad again next year
Ray is one transfer of a key player away from packing his bags. The fence swings both ways.
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03-18-2014, 03:36 PM
#110

Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Ray is one transfer of a key player away from packing his bags. The fence swings both ways.
When you have worked as hard as these guys have and are paying a price- it makes it harder to walk away from and give up. We arent going to have a major player walk away now that the hardest part has passed
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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03-18-2014, 03:47 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
Coach34
When you have worked as hard as these guys have and are paying a price- it makes it harder to walk away from and give up. We arent going to have a major player walk away now that the hardest part has passed
Man I sure hope you're right on this one. You think losing Hood is hard.
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03-18-2014, 05:19 PM
#112
Senior Member
Pretty cool. Jacobs tells media he wasn't gonna take NO for an answer from Pearl. Did you hear that SS & Keenum ?
http://www.al.com/auburnbasketball/i...sh_pit_wi.html
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03-18-2014, 05:39 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
shannondawg
While at it, the Bruce Pearl hire might just jar people into realizing just how stupid Keenum and Stricklin were in the hiring of Ray. May be a ray of sunshine in that afterall, no pun intended,.
Please. First, there wasn't even anyone out there like Pearl available when we were hiring. Second, Auburn right now is a more attractive situation than we were 2 years ago. That's just a fact.
Third, there aren't a whole lot of programs who would have hired Pearl. It's hilarious to me that Jacobs did it after he got completely self-righteous during the Cam stuff about how clean Auburn is; have fun selling that now. They have made the clear statement that right now wins matter more than anything else. There are a lot of programs who aren't run that way, and ours is one. You may not like that, but honestly I do. And you're going to have to either live with that or cheer for someone else.
The Bruce Pearl hiring is not an absolute homerun. It's only viewed that way on message boards. He now has serious baggage, and it is definitely a roll of the dice. He won't be able to do the same things he did before or else he won't be there long and Auburn's program will be decimated. They are obviously willing to take the risk because of where they've been for so long.
A coach who has had a show-cause prior is potentially radioactive. It's not as though once the show-cause is lifted, everything will be just like it was before for him.
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03-18-2014, 05:39 PM
#114

Originally Posted by
HailState39110
Wish I hadn't watched that video now. Those lucky ****s just hit a grand slam. That video made me sick.
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03-18-2014, 05:44 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
smootness
Auburn right now is a more attractive situation than we were 2 years ago. That's just a fact.
Fact? Sounds like an opinion to me considering that before Brick Ray MSU owned Auburn in basketball AND had just recently beaten Bruce Pearl to win the SEC Tournament. It was/is very fresh in his mind that he walked off a loser to MSU in his last chance to win the SECT.
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03-18-2014, 06:07 PM
#116
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
smootness
Please. First, there wasn't even anyone out there like Pearl available when we were hiring. Second, Auburn right now is a more attractive situation than we were 2 years ago. That's just a fact.
Third, there aren't a whole lot of programs who would have hired Pearl. It's hilarious to me that Jacobs did it after he got completely self-righteous during the Cam stuff about how clean Auburn is; have fun selling that now. They have made the clear statement that right now wins matter more than anything else. There are a lot of programs who aren't run that way, and ours is one. You may not like that, but honestly I do. And you're going to have to either live with that or cheer for someone else.
The Bruce Pearl hiring is not an absolute homerun. It's only viewed that way on message boards. He now has serious baggage, and it is definitely a roll of the dice. He won't be able to do the same things he did before or else he won't be there long and Auburn's program will be decimated. They are obviously willing to take the risk because of where they've been for so long.
A coach who has had a show-cause prior is potentially radioactive. It's not as though once the show-cause is lifted, everything will be just like it was before for him.
Wow, you must really have some seriously shaded maroon glasses on right now. This whole post is taking this defending Ray thing to a whole other level....
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03-18-2014, 06:15 PM
#117

Originally Posted by
MarketingBully01
Wow, you must really have some seriously shaded maroon glasses on right now. This whole post is taking this defending Ray thing to a whole other level....
It's amazing to me that some of you manage to find your car....
Where in his post was he "defending Ray"?
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03-18-2014, 06:29 PM
#118
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
engie
It's amazing to me that some of you manage to find your car....
Where in his post was he "defending Ray"?
You, C34, and Smootness are three that go the complete opposite way defending Ray of the detractors.
Basically, he was calling the Bruce Pearl hire at Auburn not a home run hire. He also basically stated in not so many words that Ray was our best option as coach in our search thus also defending Stricklin in one of the worst coaching search screw ups in MSU history. It will be interesting to see if you and C34 jump off the Ray band wagon when we have another shifty year next year.
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03-18-2014, 06:37 PM
#119

Originally Posted by
MarketingBully01
You, C34, and Smootness are three that go the complete opposite way defending Ray of the detractors.
Basically, he was calling the Bruce Pearl hire at Auburn not a home run hire. He also basically stated in not so many words that Ray was our best option as coach in our search thus also defending Stricklin in one of the worst coaching search screw ups in MSU history. It will be interesting to see if you and C34 jump off the Ray band wagon when we have another shifty year next year.
So, the "Ray bandwagon" = "people with enough common sense to 'wait and see' after a coach has had a fair amount of time to create a turnaround."
Like I said the first time -- amazing that you find your car. You couldn't have botched ANY of our actual positions any worse.
I guess that's why it's redundant to argue with people that lack the common sense to understand stuff that has been clearly stated no fewer than 20 times by each of us.
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03-18-2014, 06:43 PM
#120
Senior Member
Whatever, it is obvious you won't change my position and I won't change yours. Consider me to never respond to any more of your posts.
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