Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
"Climate Change" is absolutely real. It's been going on for millions of years. The problem is that we as humans have very little to do with it or much we can do about it. Mother Earth is going to do what she damn well pleases. Nobody is saying be reckless, trash the oceans, or factories shouldnt filter to help the environment. If people wanted to really cut down on carbon emissions- nuclear energy would be at the forefront.
Ok, I agree with just about all of your post outside the first 3 sentences.

I hear "of course climate changes, it's been changing for millennia" or "it's cyclical" all the time as retorts to this discussion. While both statements are indeed true, they are also so trivial in terms of our understandings of climate, the earth, nature, etc., they don't make any type of valid point...It's like, "Yeah ok? So you mention something we've known and had fairly figured out since ancient Greek times", lol. It'd be like someone saying "water is wet", then leaning back and smugly crossing their arms as if they just dropped some knowledge.

Humans absolutely have an impact, a huge one, and at multiple scales (from the local ecosystem, to the biome, to the biosphere), and in myriad ways. There are mountains (literally mountains) of vetted research demonstrating all sorts of anthropogenic impacts on climate and the environment. The scientific consensus on this topic is so overwhelming, to deny it is like arguing over the temperature at which water boils.