Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
You're trying to pull me into this fray, lol.

People are hypocrites? Yes. A whole helluva lot of them. Lets not get into a who has the most hypocrites on their side debate, because no body will come out clean.

Is AOC a dumbass? Yes. One of 20-ish dem congress members from the state of NY, I believe, so not sure why so many of y'all are obsessed with her, lol. The green new deal is a rally banner for her "progressive" caucus...it has some valid stuff in it, but mostly it's an overly ambitious piece of garbage that has only served as a political weapon to be used against actual, good-faith, and realistic measures to combat the issue. AOC, Bernie, and their lot aren't interested in coalition to tackle this issue, which is exactly what you need...they just cause the other side to dig in. **** them.

Ok, lol....now that I've thoroughly distanced myself from that.....

Is climate change real, significantly important, and worthy of our attention? Yes.

Can there be policy debate on how we handle it? Yes. Certainly. Absolutely. But we can't have those debates when a large portion of one side of the aisle refuse to even admit its a problem.

Now stay with me, C34....

Is acid rain real and a problem, especially for vegetation? Yes. Not sure why you chose this one as an example. It's danger has been pretty rigorously documented.

Now your comment on the south pole temperature is really revealing....because, as any earth scientist will tell you, huge swings in temp, regional climate trends, weather events, natural disasters, etc....are all symptomatic of drastic global changes in climate. That's the whole point, actually. Not just picking on you, because I see it/hear it all the time, but one of the most ignorant colloquial rebuttals of climate change is the statement "we just had the coldest winter ever, so how can the earth be warming???".
"Climate Change" is absolutely real. It's been going on for millions of years. The problem is that we as humans have very little to do with it or much we can do about it. Mother Earth is going to do what she damn well pleases. Nobody is saying be reckless, trash the oceans, or factories shouldnt filter to help the environment. If people wanted to really cut down on carbon emissions- nuclear energy would be at the forefront.