Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
I got out of poverty much the same way, bud. My parents filed bankruptcy while I was in high school, but now I've got multiple engineering degrees and a recession/pandemic proof job. Being someone who battled out of poverty and dealt with those hardships, do you not want people to NOT have to deal with that? To not have their kids be embarrassed to ask for money to go to a movie? Idk man, I got myself in a steady place. I'm happy with where I'm personally at.

I don't want full on communism because it never works. (see: venezuela and russia and every other instance in history.) Its problem isn't far too different than what we have now. That the ruling class (in capitalism, the elite rich) controls everything and they are corrupt.

But why can't we have similar universal healthcare to Canada at least. No one is saying be ridiculously drastic. I just don't want poor people to have to go through what I went through. There's no perfect cure-all, but you can't tell me there's not something better than what we're doing.

So what if there are people who don't want to help themselves or "can't get out of this situation." My goal isn't that. My goal is to eliminate that situation altogether. With the advances we've made in automation, there's no need for every american to work 40 backbreaking hours every week. You certainly could if you wanted, but society is heading to a place we've never been where we don't need humans to do everything.
So this is the difference, my parents never filed for bankruptcy, they gutted it out and payed their bills on time and this is the same work ethic they instilled in me. They did not look for a short cut, a quick way out nor a bailout. We lived within our means. The mindset is the difference.

Many years ago, mankind used to work from before daylight to after sunset 7 days per week. Due to Biblical principles (Moses - the 10 commandments), instituted a 6 day work week and then in the early 1900s Saturday was also given as a day of rest from labor/work/job. We work 5 days per week now or 40 hours per week (at least that is what we get paid for) and you want to reduce it even further? Does technology redefine man into some worthless pansy? Common, even in a technological world - like today and in the future - we will still gave to design devices/systems, manufacture and repair them (even with redundancy built in). Man has to do something, we can't sit on our thumbs all day and respond to these forums. Besides, idle hands are the devils playground.

Again, you want government run goods and services since we the people are too stupid to create them ourselves. You view everything as a right, an entitlement, and nothing is to be EARNED or worked for. Once you tax those who do have into oblivion (that is you and me today), there is no more money and then what? All incentive to EARN is gone and we will all file for welfare. Who in the hell is going to pay for it? Go to Canada and see how good their healthcare is - their people schedule surgery in the US by the way.