Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
Ahhh, now your true motive is revealed - it is political, you are a socialist and believe the government is the source of all goods and services. Trump, being a capitalist and a believer in a free market and individual freedoms where a man/woman can achieve whatever they put their minds and efforts to, you hate him and ridicule him regardless of what he does. It is better to teach a man how to fish than to perpetually give him a fish - except for short period of time through a particular hardship - for the rest of their life and the lives of their kids and grand kids to boot. Look at history and see that welfare, other than as a temporary pick me up, is a total failure as we have multi-generational welfare recipients and they have no clue how to get out of this situation. Part of our government, and you, don't want them to get out - it is all about the vote and power - sell the US down the drain. You are taking away the self worth of a person and telling them they are nothing but trash not worthy of thinking and making a living based on their own merits. This is nothing more than redistribution of wealth - a socialist/communist agenda.

Do not tell me it is because they are poor that they can not learn or get out of poverty. I was born in southwest Mississippi in a 3 room tar paper shack on the Mississippi river. We had no running water in the house except for the kitchen sink that had water from a rain barrel. We had no bathroom, but only an outhouse abut 60 yards behind the house and a keep pot in the bedroom in case you had to go during the night. I took a bath on the from porch in a number 3 wash tub.

How did I get out of poverty? It is because my parents rode my ass every day and told me I WAS going to college and I WAS going to chose a major that society paid well and by the grace of God I did. They made me study and they instilled in me a sense of discipline and a do not take no for an answer attitude. It has served me well. I became an electrical engineer and have had a wonderful career in technology - computer oriented. Government was not the answer, parents are! Everybody does not have to be an engineer, but they can elevate themselves to something that gives them a level of self respect and a means to EARN a living! And no, I did not go to private school, but to the same public school everybody else goes to.

Why do you want to take that opportunity, and responsibility, away from those on welfare today?

If you think socialism is so GREAT, then go live in Venezuela or Russia and see what that form of government truly means. You will not like it!

You are a piece of work with your elitist attitude. Take it somewhere else. Our founding fathers and those who have died defending our freedoms would roll over in their graves hearing the crap you are postering.
I got out of poverty much the same way, bud. My parents filed bankruptcy while I was in high school, but now I've got multiple engineering degrees and a recession/pandemic proof job. Being someone who battled out of poverty and dealt with those hardships, do you not want people to NOT have to deal with that? To not have their kids be embarrassed to ask for money to go to a movie? Idk man, I got myself in a steady place. I'm happy with where I'm personally at.

I don't want full on communism because it never works. (see: venezuela and russia and every other instance in history.) Its problem isn't far too different than what we have now. That the ruling class (in capitalism, the elite rich) controls everything and they are corrupt.

But why can't we have similar universal healthcare to Canada at least. No one is saying be ridiculously drastic. I just don't want poor people to have to go through what I went through. There's no perfect cure-all, but you can't tell me there's not something better than what we're doing.

So what if there are people who don't want to help themselves or "can't get out of this situation." My goal isn't that. My goal is to eliminate that situation altogether. With the advances we've made in automation, there's no need for every american to work 40 backbreaking hours every week. You certainly could if you wanted, but society is heading to a place we've never been where we don't need humans to do everything.