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Originally Posted by
Reunion Dog
I was told by the A$$ Whipper, himself it happened...
And no suspension. Would be nice to see KT play @ QB...
JoMo gives no suspension for a punch that may have broken next years starting QB's eye socket and expects Gay to be a leader on the team? JoMo won't make it halfway through next season with that strategy. Why the lack of support for Shrader? Can't believe your first thought goes to KT playing.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
JoMo gives no suspension for a punch that may have broken next years starting QB's eye socket and expects Gay to be a leader on the team? JoMo won't make it halfway through next season with that strategy. Why the lack of support for Shrader? Can't believe your first thought goes to KT playing.
It sounds like the team isn't supporting Shrader. Maybe they know more than a fan poster who thinks Shrader is the future team leader. Respect is earned not given.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Ah football culture lol. No, it's sissy culture. Getting feelings hurt by words and then lashing out cause you might have been embarrassed? Willie has shown not to be the sharpest tool in the shed. We should've kicked him out when we had the chance.
Cry me a river. You sound really ignorant person picking a side of situation with no facts. Willie is the team leader. Even if Willie was wrong he would have been chastised by other team members. This isn't the first time Shrader has gotten into situations with team members. Some have been offensive veterans. Again, respect is earned not given.
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Yep. I'm hearing Shrader's eye was swollen shut and his orbital bone is fractured.

Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Ah football culture lol. No, it's sissy culture. Getting feelings hurt by words and then lashing out cause you might have been embarrassed? Willie has shown not to be the sharpest tool in the shed. We should've kicked him out when we had the chance.
Yep. Unlikely Gay makes it through next year without problems.
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If he has an orbital fracture I would say that there is still a chance Shrader plays. Depends on if he has double vision or not. At least that's what you're typically worried about. Anyway they're typically stable fractures so it's unlikely to get worse. Usually they heal on their own but do sometimes require surgery if it's really bad.
I say that not knowing if Shrader has double vision or if Joe is just going to suspend or if he even really has a fracture or not.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Cry me a river. You sound really ignorant person picking a side of situation with no facts. Willie is the team leader. Even if Willie was wrong he would have been chastised by other team members. This isn't the first time Shrader has gotten into situations with team members. Some have been offensive veterans. Again, respect is earned not given.
If Gay is the leader that explains a lot of our problems.
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You can permanently damage a person's vision with a blow to the head or eye. So it's not that funny to land blows to the head in the name of "football culture."
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
You can permanently damage a person's vision with a blow to the head or eye. So it's not that funny to land blows to the head in the name of "football culture."
Who says it was funny? You don't know what happened or how it started. What If Shrader threw a punch first and Willie responded back?
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If Gay is the leader that explains a lot of our problems.
Not really.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Cry me a river. You sound really ignorant person picking a side of situation with no facts. Willie is the team leader. Even if Willie was wrong he would have been chastised by other team members. This isn't the first time Shrader has gotten into situations with team members. Some have been offensive veterans. Again, respect is earned not given.
Kinda sounds like you're picking a side. With no facts.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Kinda sounds like you're picking a side. With no facts.
I have no idea who is to blame here, but I am interested in the shrader ark suspension rumor. Anyone got some info? If this isn't shrader's 1st fight this season and gay's antics on the field, could just be 2 hotheads blowing up
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Not really.
Based on Gay's actions on the field and off the field yes it's a problem. Could you see Barrin Simpson getting kicked out of a game or fighting Wayne Madkin.
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I still think a big part of the Stansbury rot at the end was keeping Sidney and letting Bailey go. If — if — Shrader started it, they both go.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Ah football culture lol. No, it's sissy culture. Getting feelings hurt by words and then lashing out cause you might have been embarrassed? Willie has shown not to be the sharpest tool in the shed. We should've kicked him out when we had the chance.

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
It sounds like the team isn't supporting Shrader. Maybe they know more than a fan poster who thinks Shrader is the future team leader. Respect is earned not given.
Shrader is the future team leader if he's already calling people out in the huddle (our nfl center) and seeing how hard he plays. The helicopter play should have build a lot of cred with players. Also, hopefully he is not a hot-headed d*** cause that makes him harder to follow. As far as who started what, I have no clue. Just hope it's not a serious injury to keep him from playing. And as far as Willie, he hasn't exactly exhibited the behavior of a leader on or off the field with some of his antics.
Edit: didn't mean to quote you interpolation
Last edited by Bdawg; 12-24-2019 at 09:23 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Ah football culture lol. No, it's sissy culture. Getting feelings hurt by words and then lashing out cause you might have been embarrassed? Willie has shown not to be the sharpest tool in the shed. We should've kicked him out when we had the chance.
Good post. Punching a teammate in the face for feeling disrespected is the opposite of real toughness. It's weak and idiotic.
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Look, this team hasn't been a "team" all season. There's a split and it's been building up steam all year. John Cohen could've fixed it but he pussed out. If we lose the bowl game (especially if it's ugly), things are going off the rails.
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I have heard for past two years discipline and accountability are just words and not enforcement by this staff. SloMo is more worried about the players liking him than respecting him. Players are running the locker room not the coaches
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Originally Posted by
RiverCityDawg
Good post. Punching a teammate in the face for feeling disrespected is the opposite of real toughness. It's weak and idiotic.
What Shrader is rumored to have called Willie is on a WHOLE other level of feeling disrespected. Can?t even post it here. Y?all might want to dig for the whole story.
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I?ve heard the same.

Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
I have heard for past two years discipline and accountability are just words and not enforcement by this staff. SloMo is more worried about the players liking him than respecting him. Players are running the locker room not the coaches
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Based on Gay's actions on the field and off the field yes it's a problem. Could you see Barrin Simpson getting kicked out of a game or fighting Wayne Madkin.
Lets not forget about being the orchestrator of tutorgate. Or at least patient zero.
Sounds like both 6s need to grow the hell up.
And joe should be roasted for this. Fights during practice are no big deal. But fights after practice are not in the heat of the moment.
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