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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
If what I'm hearing is correct, Willie did something in practice that Garrett told him would draw a flag during a game.
Willie didn't like that and gave him a black eye.
Given Willie's history in games, Garrett was probably right.
Sounds plausible.
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Considering half the “people with sources” say it’s on Shrader and the other half say Willie, I’m guessing nobody knows a damn thing
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If Joe can't be the controlling force on this team, then if he wants any chance of surviving he better hire someone to handle it for him. You know, I see something like the video of him talking to the new signees and their parents and think to myself, man, I hope he pulls through this. And then I hear of situations similar to this and think to myself, man, I wish we had gotten rid of him when we had the chance. And in between the two, I have no idea what to think.
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
If what I'm hearing is correct, Willie did something in practice that Garrett told him would draw a flag during a game.
Willie didn't like that and gave him a black eye.
Given Willie's history in games, Garrett was probably right.
Where were the OL to back up their QB? The entire situation seems odd.
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Moorhead can't stop a punch from being thrown, or even a beatdown from happening. If a LB jumped on the starting qb after being suspended for most of the season, I think he'd be packing his bags already for his next endeavors. If it was a fight, that's a bit different. I don't believe the reports of ocular damage or being physically questionable for the bowl. People are trying to add drama there.
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Originally Posted by
bluelightstar
Considering half the “people with sources” say it’s on Shrader and the other half say Willie, I’m guessing nobody knows a damn thing
The truth is probably in the middle.

Originally Posted by
Lumpy Chucklelips
If Joe can't be the controlling force on this team, then if he wants any chance of surviving he better hire someone to handle it for him. You know, I see something like the video of him talking to the new signees and their parents and think to myself, man, I hope he pulls through this. And then I hear of situations similar to this and think to myself, man, I wish we had gotten rid of him when we had the chance. And in between the two, I have no idea what to think.
The only rumor I have heard that might explain some of this is that the upperclassmen haven't bought into Joe and don't like him as much the underclassmen like him. Some of this kind of reminds me of Cohen's first two years to be honest with you. Next year most of the team will be his recruits so if he can't turn it around with his guys- and he may not- he is in trouble. I imagine that this was a factor in Cohen bringing him back and giving him another chance.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Moorhead can't stop a punch from being thrown, or even a beatdown from happening. If a LB jumped on the starting qb after being suspended for most of the season, I think he'd be packing his bags already for his next endeavors. If it was a fight, that's a bit different. I don't believe the reports of ocular damage or being physically questionable for the bowl. People are trying to add drama there.
The coach is responsible for setting a culture that dictates that teammates don't do things like this.
As far as what you don't believe....you'd better believe it because it's 100% true.
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Well, dude on sps is adamant.... adamant What he heard is true....Shrader has a fracture from the scuffle and is out for the game.
If that is true.... my gosh.... this has been the weirdest season played by the most disfunctional team that I can ever remember. How the he'll you going to knock your own QB out of the game in
Practice? Damn! Who is playing QB... 17?
Jezzzz what a season.
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
Well, dude on sps is adamant.... adamant What he heard is true....Shrader has a fracture from the scuffle and is out for the game.
If that is true.... my gosh.... this has been the weirdest season played by the most disfunctional team that I can ever remember. How the he'll you going to knock your own QB out of the game in
Practice? Damn! Who is playing QB... 17?
Jezzzz what a season.
If he's out I bet Joe goes with Stevens. Either way whether it's Shrader, Stevens, KT, Todd4State, Mike Pizinski- they're going to be handing the ball off to Kylin about 75% of the time probably. And then Gibson about the other 15%.
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I will say this if that's true
If I'm an NFL GM and I see that Willie Gay is an unsportsmanlike conduct machine, was suspended for 2/3's of a season for cheating in a gimme class, and severely injured his starting QB in a post practice fight, I'm going to be hesitant to pull the trigger on him no matter how talented he is.
He's an elite talent but he's a bonehead who makes boneheaded decisions. And I'm not taking up for GS bc I simply don't know the facts or if he did something to deserve it. But this has potentially turned into something far more serious that just a "dust up"
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
I will say this if that's true
If I'm an NFL GM and I see that Willie Gay is an unsportsmanlike conduct machine, was suspended for 2/3's of a season for cheating in a gimme class, and severely injured his starting QB in a post practice fight, I'm going to be hesitant to pull the trigger on him no matter how talented he is.
He's an elite talent but he's a bonehead who makes boneheaded decisions. And I'm not taking up for GS bc I simply don't know the facts or if he did something to deserve it. But this has potentially turned into something far more serious that just a "dust up"
Gay is getting close to the point for me where I wonder whether it's worth having him come back or not. He simply can not control his emotions. There are things that sometimes don't get seen too- like Kody Schexnader dragging his ass off the field before Gay got called for celebrating and Gay arguing with a coach on the sideline before he got flagged for celebrating excessively as well.
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Yep. I'm hearing Shrader's eye was swollen shut and his orbital bone is fractured.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If he's out I bet Joe goes with Stevens. Either way whether it's Shrader, Stevens, KT, Todd4State, Mike Pizinski- they're going to be handing the ball off to Kylin about 75% of the time probably. And then Gibson about the other 15%.
I think Kylin gets his 45 yards for the season rushing record and then stays on the sideline the rest of the game.
No need to risk injury just a few months before the combine.
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
I think Kylin gets his 45 yards for the season rushing record and then stays on the sideline the rest of the game.
No need to risk injury just a few months before the combine.
I doubt it. These guys are competitors.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
I will say this if that's true
If I'm an NFL GM and I see that Willie Gay is an unsportsmanlike conduct machine, was suspended for 2/3's of a season for cheating in a gimme class, and severely injured his starting QB in a post practice fight, I'm going to be hesitant to pull the trigger on him no matter how talented he is.
He's an elite talent but he's a bonehead who makes boneheaded decisions. And I'm not taking up for GS bc I simply don't know the facts or if he did something to deserve it. But this has potentially turned into something far more serious that just a "dust up"
Didn't Ray Lewis kill a guy? Scouts get over BS if you're talented enough.
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Yeah blame Willie for a fight based off of a rumor sounds legit. The fact that no other player jumped in tells you all that's needed. Well, I guess not for guys who don't understand football culture.
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Originally Posted by
defiantdog
Didn't Ray Lewis kill a guy? Scouts get over BS if you're talented enough.
And big Ben raped a girl and is still playing.
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I was told by the A$$ Whipper, himself it happened...
And no suspension. Would be nice to see KT play @ QB...
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Originally Posted by
Reunion Dog
I was told by the A$$ Whipper, himself it happened...
And no suspension. Would be nice to see KT play @ QB...
It would be great to see KT play!
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Yeah blame Willie for a fight based off of a rumor sounds legit. The fact that no other player jumped in tells you all that's needed. Well, I guess not for guys who don't understand football culture.
Ah football culture lol. No, it's sissy culture. Getting feelings hurt by words and then lashing out cause you might have been embarrassed? Willie has shown not to be the sharpest tool in the shed. We should've kicked him out when we had the chance.
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