Austin Peay is 1 Win Away From 1st Ever FCS Playoff Appearance

[Tbonewannabe]

I disagree. He was past the gray area and I doubt there are many schools operating in an ACT fraud scam. I will say many are glad the NCAA kept the scope of the investigation narrow enough to not chase every line to multiple schools or open a huge broad investigation into the Gameplan.

I honestly wouldn't put it past AU, LSU, Bama, UGA, UT, or a lot of big time programs. They might not go to the lengths that UM was going which is what really got Sanders in trouble. I don't remember exactly what was going on at ULL but it seems like it was a lot less than what UM had Sanders doing. Freeze was going Wild Wild West at UM and ended up pissing off the wrong group of people. If Freeze was just dicking over MSU then nothing would have ever been done. He crossed the line stealing UGA and Bama recruits.

[DownwardDawg]

But non of that has anything to do with winning football games.

Bad ADs focus on the things you just mentioned.

Yep. You nailed. Just win baby.

[basedog]

He had nothing to do with ULL's probation. The NCAA purposefully went out of their way to clear him and Reed Stringer in the final report.

There's nothing to this. Bad narrative

This made me laugh, do you not think he didn't know what was going on?

I am kinda on the fence with Hud, I think he is better than Joe but I'm not sure at this point who is the best choice. After the Egg Bowl who knows who might show up, why put all your eggs in one basket, you never know who might be or not be interested.

P.S. Hugh Freeze didn't know anything was wrong either**

[BeastMan]

Agree that he won?t do it again but can you call it a mistake when ehe knew exactly who and what he was hiring when he did so? Saunders was very well known in the state and many coaches knew he was operating on the edge and over in recruiting. Even Boone knew it was a very bad idea to bring him on the field as a coach. Many HS coaches knew his tactics.

This. HUD knew exactly what he was doing. And I?m not saying he?s unhirable. Hopefully he learned to color between the lines

[Irondawg]

I think grade scams are a lot more prevalent than a lot of people would like to admit. There are a lot of bright kids on college football teams, but there a ton that got a lot of help graduating HS and in no way shape or form are passing college classes without a ton of help. It is what it is.

[Coursesuper]

This made me laugh, do you not think he didn't know what was going on?

I am kinda on the fence with Hud, I think he is better than Joe but I'm not sure at this point who is the best choice. After the Egg Bowl who knows who might show up, why put all your eggs in one basket, you never know who might be or not be interested.

P.S. Hugh Freeze didn't know anything was wrong either**

If interest in our possible job opening hasn't already been gauged from potential candidates it an absolute failure on our administrations part. I just hope we aren't going to just stick to whatever search firms candidate list. These firms are tied specific agents which rep specific coaches, I hope we have cast a broad a net as possible.

[MrKotter]

Hiring Hud would be unexciting, unimaginative, underwhelming, unimpressive. Being that it checks all those boxes I fully expect him to be the next MSU coach, this year or next.

You?re more concerned with perception and splash than on field results?

[Coursesuper]

I think grade scams are a lot more prevalent than a lot of people would like to admit. There are a lot of bright kids on college football teams, but there a ton that got a lot of help graduating HS and in no way shape or form are passing college classes without a ton of help. It is what it is.

Truth!

[Really Clark?]

I think grade scams are a lot more prevalent than a lot of people would like to admit. There are a lot of bright kids on college football teams, but there a ton that got a lot of help graduating HS and in no way shape or form are passing college classes without a ton of help. It is what it is.

That I agree with but the scope of the ring that Saunders was a part of is really beyond what many do on such a big scale. We have to remember that in the end it was only about UM and ULL. There was a period of time that Saunders (and others were also a part) were operating a wide scale academic fraud that extended to more schools. Again, luckily the NCAA kept the investigation scope narrow to UM and ULL.

[Really Clark?]

I honestly wouldn't put it past AU, LSU, Bama, UGA, UT, or a lot of big time programs. They might not go to the lengths that UM was going which is what really got Sanders in trouble. I don't remember exactly what was going on at ULL but it seems like it was a lot less than what UM had Sanders doing. Freeze was going Wild Wild West at UM and ended up pissing off the wrong group of people. If Freeze was just dicking over MSU then nothing would have ever been done. He crossed the line stealing UGA and Bama recruits.

He was doing the exact same thing at ULL as he was doing at UM. It never stopped. Luckily for a lot of schools they didn’t go in depth on the Gameplan situation. Kept that search narrow to UM. He was really off the reservation in academic fraud and it was well known across the state and in other states as well. Kids were being brought in from other states to test as well.

[gtowndawg]

Count me in as interested in Hud. With a good staff, I think he would do well here. We would play to our traditional strengths, he would recruit well and I think he would do a good job getting fan support and buy in.

For those that say we would not bring him in because he had some NCAA issues, guess what? King Jackie had similar issues and that worked out just fine. Hud was help accountable for Saunders, and he should have been. He paid the price for it and moved on and is once again proving himself.

He's the most realistic candidate I see that would come here (his dream job in fact) that checks off the majority of the boxes we are looking for. Just makes sense to me.

[Really Clark?]

Honestly, I’m on the fence with Hud. Not saying he has to change who he is completely because he can’t and shouldn’t to a degree. But tone it down some and hopefully what occurred at ULL will humble him some. Because he can coach and possible be very successful here

[tcdog70]

Hiring Hud would be unexciting, unimaginative, underwhelming, unimpressive. Being that it checks all those boxes I fully expect him to be the next MSU coach, this year or next.

i would be excited-knowing that we hired a Coach that everywhere he Coached he took a bottom feeder and put them on the top tier of their conference.
not just once but several times. he is a MSU guy and when he has Coached here elevated our level of play under whomever was HC. Oh-Yeah he Coached here after ULL and no-one gave a shit about past transgressions. Our best Coach ever, came to MSU under a cloud--but it indeed had a silver lining.

[Cooterpoot]

An MSU guy at President, AD, & football coach would be the most MSU thing ever.

[tcdog70]

Hud is a lot like Cohen. A hot head that thinks he knows everything. People have tried to help him and he refuses that help.

sort of like saban--It is clear you are a Hud hater and a Jc hater as well. You make all these shitty remarks but never back up what you say. We have a Coach now that thinks he knows everything and he sux. I'll take a dose of Hud.

guess what we acted holier than shit on another MSU coach and Hired ole Rick Ray--when we could have brought Kermit home with his indiscretions but no--we suffered through some shitty years. And What has happened? our Nemesis has grabbed Him--they foe sure aren't worried about his past--they just want to win.

[timotheus]

this!

[gtowndawg]

An MSU guy at President, AD, & football coach would be the most MSU thing ever.

To me, I don't care that he's an MSU guy. That's just a bonus I guess? I'm simply looking at his strengths and weaknesses on paper and considering the fact it's a realistic hire. It's not an Urban Meyer pipe dream or PJ Fleck or someone else that we know isn't reality. No coach is going to be perfect and have 100% of the fan base behind them. But to me, HUD is one (not the only) that has a lot of things I'm interested in seeing.

I will make a side argument the two times we've come close to a major championships in men's sports it was under "MSU" guys. Richard Williams and John Cohen. They had some issues too but they also won SEC Championships and came razor close to bringing home a national championship.

[gtowndawg]

i would be excited-knowing that we hired a Coach that everywhere he Coached he took a bottom feeder and put them on the top tier of their conference.

Exactly. If you took the name away and it was a blind taste test, everyone would at least be intrigued. How could you not? I want to do a thorough search of course, but HUD would certainly get an interview to hear his plan for Miss. State football.

[tcdog70]

Exactly. If you took the name away and it was a blind taste test, everyone would at least be intrigued. How could you not? I want to do a thorough search of course, but HUD would certainly get an interview to hear his plan for Miss. State football.

right --just put his record up with no-name and He out performs everyone else that is being mentioned. hands-down.

[Todd4State]

His biggest mistake at ULL was hiring David Sanders, I don't think he make a mistake like that again.

I don?t think he is able to hire Saunders again if he wanted to.